Pakistan reopens airspace for civil aviation after nearly five months
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Pakistan's airspace has been reopened to civil aviation with immediate effect, the Civil Aviation Authority said on Tuesday, following months of restrictions imposed in the wake of a standoff with India earlier this year.
"With immediate effect Pakistan airspace is open for all type of civil traffic on published ATS (Air Traffic Service) routes," according to a notice to airmen (NOTAM) published on the authority's website.
An official at the authority, reached by telephone, confirmed that the change was in effect.
Read: Pakistan extends airspace ban along eastern border
Pakistan had fully closed its airspace following the violation of its international boundary and airspace by Indian fighter jets on February 26. In March, it partially opened its airspace but kept it banned for the Indian flights. India had also banned its airspace for flights to Pakistan.
Earlier, Aviation Secretary Shahrukh Nusrat said: "The Indian government had asked us to open the airspace. We conveyed our concerns that first India must withdraw its fighter planes placed forward. We are ready to open our airspace if India de-escalates."
Pakistan lies in the middle of a vital aviation corridor and the airspace restrictions affected hundreds of commercial and cargo flights each day, adding to flight time for passengers and fuel costs for airlines.
The announcement came hours after United Airlines Holdings Inc said it was extending the suspension of its flights from the United States to Delhi and Mumbai in India until October 26, citing continued restrictions of Pakistani airspace.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:21am
What happened to de-escalation?
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Jul 16, 2019 09:28am
Why opening??
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Jul 16, 2019 09:29am
Good to see Indian willingness on Kartarpur corridor! Pakistan reciprocrates! Stability coming in strong to the sub-continent!
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Jul 16, 2019 09:30am
Good move towards peace by Pakistan, let's hope India reciprocates our gesture.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:31am
Dangerous times for the country. With the Kartarpur opening planned shortly, the government should take notice of the new airport being built by India in the region. It could be and without any doubts will be used for military purposes as well. With the roads being built on both sides of the border, aren't we providing uncalled for facilities to our neighbors just to appease the rulers ego and sense of 'non-existent' co-operation?
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Jul 16, 2019 09:31am
I read your article that Pakistan reopens her airspace but WHY?
Why are we simply handing out cookies for free.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:33am
" We conveyed our concerns that first India must withdraw its fighter planes placed forward. " Can someone confirm if India has withdrawn Thier planes from forward bases.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:36am
@Sharan, Ya, why opening? Should have left it closed...
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Jul 16, 2019 09:36am
Has India de escalated ?
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Jul 16, 2019 09:38am
@Sharan, if u lived in Delhi you know y dear sharan. its very painful for delhi ppl who fly to USA or Europe. we had to pay extra airfare , extra 3 hours flying time plus less baggage allowance. common man problem bt u wont get it. let peace prevail.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:40am
Pakistan had no flight going to Malaysia or Thailand because of ban on usage of India Space. Indian Airlines, a State Enterprise was running in loss prior to Pakistan ban on usages of their Airspace and will keeping running in loss even after lifting of ban on usages of Pakistani space. All other Airlines made extra profit because of longer flights due to ban as Planes make money in flying hours and not staying at gateways.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:43am
Someone must have proffered an ‘offer that cannot be refused’. Hope ms modi has got some sense beat into him after pakistan beat NZ and NZ beat India.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:49am
"We conveyed our concerns that first India must withdraw its fighter planes placed forward."
So did this happen or you became worried about your loss of earning in usd that made you change your mind.
Any which way good for all airlines.In case Air India is still being stopped we should continue our ban also for any Pakistan based airlines.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:49am
India and Afghanistan lost millions in revenue. And not many attacks on borders during this period. This is the only language they understand.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:50am
@Tamza, And India beats Pakistan.Hope Mr khan will now come to his senses.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:52am
Forced u turn by Pakistan.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:52am
@Shakir Baakza, Not free. Overflight earns money. And it's not only Indian aircraft which can overfly now.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:52am
Why suddenly? what about de-escalation?
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Jul 16, 2019 09:52am
"Pakistan not to open airspace until India de-escalates"? Another U-Turn? Does this government has any moral legs to stand on?
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Jul 16, 2019 09:52am
@Shakir Baakza, because you will also get cookies for free in return,it is a 2 way traffic.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:54am
India threatened to lodge a complaint to the international civil aviation watchdog which would have suspended PIA from all routes.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:54am
@SHAHID SATTAR , Zaid Hamid has also similar concern !!
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Jul 16, 2019 09:55am
@Tamza, yeah offer was indeed made,till you stop our flights we will stop your flights,after months of loss,it seems to have been decided that losses should be cut down.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:55am
@Tamza,
Yes
And the world cup has been won by Tethyan mining company .
And the winner got around 6 billion USD.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:56am
@Shakir Baakza, Cookies are hard to hold on to, they are too hot.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:57am
Abhinandan is also welcome to try our hospitality again :)
Though, hope better sense prevails.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:58am
@Tamza, Cricket is not algebra, but you wont get it.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:59am
Basic economics . India can tolerate the loss but pakistan needs every dollar..
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Jul 16, 2019 10:01am
Reason : India coming to its senses...after modi victory..
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Jul 16, 2019 10:01am
What Changed? Nothing!
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Jul 16, 2019 10:01am
Good, hopefully some back channel negotiation going on to bring some stability in relationship. Hopefully better sence prevail in both sides of the border.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:03am
Congratulations
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Jul 16, 2019 10:03am
Indian fighter jets are stil in the same place
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Jul 16, 2019 10:04am
Good Move! Peace should prevail
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Jul 16, 2019 10:04am
@Shakir Baakza, - Nothing is for free. Just shows your desperation for money. All U turns justified.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:05am
If it is settled bilateral arrangements then it is good.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:07am
@Sadiq, "Good move towards peace by Pakistan"
This is exactly like the "good move towards peace" when Abhinandan was released. And unfortunately Pakistanis will never know what led to said "good moves". Sometimes guns and bombs are not required to get your way. There are many ways to skin a cat.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:09am
Very positive attitude by Pak after positive attitude on Kartar sahib.Should be reciprocated in same way
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Jul 16, 2019 10:10am
All 3 countries India, Pakistan and Afghanistan will make profit or stop loss through this. For all those who questioned whether India de-escalated, 'India didn't de-escalate is the answer.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:14am
Pakistan is losing millions of dollars by not allowing planes to overfly. The loss of revenue is starting to bite.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:15am
"We conveyed our concerns that first India must withdraw its fighter planes placed forward." Did they comply? :-)
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Jul 16, 2019 10:18am
India begged, Pakistan showed mercy.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:20am
What happened to all the chest thumping?
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Jul 16, 2019 10:24am
Indian govt never asked to open ur airspace.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:30am
Looks like India finally de-escalated.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:32am
Good news for the sub-continent which everyone benefits. It should not be deemed as one upmanship. Trust and spirit is required. Next is removal of terror camps which will bring both the nations closer.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:32am
I think PM forthcoming USA visit is to thankful. I had to visit east side of the globe unlike most of the Pakistanis because of my children and it had become costly and more time consuming.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:32am
Imran Khan is brilliant... He successfully isolated Afghanistan from India by blocking Air Routes which had major impact on Afghan economy and govt,... Afghanistan had no choice but side with Pakistan and cooperate in Taliban discussion... India was excluded from all peace discussions with Taliban whereas Russia and China had their voices heard...
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Jul 16, 2019 10:35am
@Doctor DJ, someone came in terms with new norms. Additional Jets on forward post will not be removed.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:35am
What a strategic mistake. Should’ve kept the pressure up.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:36am
Finally sense prevails!
We should be nice to each other as neighbours :)
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Jul 16, 2019 10:37am
@Rashid, Day dreams
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Jul 16, 2019 10:38am
@Jon Malik, just like mining company mistake
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Jul 16, 2019 10:38am
Clearly, imran khan's upcoming trip to U.S. has a direct relationship to this decision.
India and USA are close allies and was pakistan was told to stop disrupting U.S.-India flights -- this topic must have been on the agenda of imran -- President Trump meeting.
So pakistan obliged as per U.S and India's wishes.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:40am
@Sameer, Kartarpur talks were always on. Indian side Sushma Swaraj a year back said religious shrine summit is unrelated to bilteral talks which is in cold storage.
Opening airspace just two days after putting certain condition is major U-turn. Specially since India hasnt removed the fighter jets from forward post as conditions stated.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:41am
@Tamza, What kind of nonsense logic is this ? Nothing to do with World cup matches.
BTW Agreed Pak beat NZ and NZ bat India marginally. But why do you forget that India beat Pak convincingly. Furthering this logic, WI literally drubbed Pak and India beat WI as well.
Get the point ? No point trying to prove supremacy by finding loopholes and going around in circles.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:42am
A really wise step by Pakistan, as it was loosing huge money toany Indian airlines because of not opening the airspace.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:43am
@Chacha Jee, India begged Pakistan to open Airspace. Just admit it. The Pakistan air space was only closed for India notfor rest of world therefore Pakistan had merely nothing. Malaysia and Thailand are not top destinations opt Pakistan by PIA.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:44am
@Rashid, India begged, Pakistan showed mercy."
Begging is actually working out very cheap and effective. IAF jets are still there and sky is opened for them by Pakistan's mercy.
Indian army begged for super highway for Kartarpur for its Tanks and 5000 free visas per day for Indian 'pilgrims'.
Pakistan showed mercy and agreed.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:47am
India has not withdrawn it's fighters from advance bases.A conditions put forward by Pakistan to open her airspace.
There is this economic reason for Pakistan to open airspace.
"Pakistan was loosing a sum of 780000 $ per day due to this"
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Jul 16, 2019 10:47am
Great job Pakistan but we must take all precautions as we are much small nation against a much bigger aggressor, run by North Indian goons of RSS Hindutava terrorists.
IndoPak Blood Brothers 4 Life!
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Jul 16, 2019 10:49am
@Tamza, “ Pakistan beat Nz and Nz beat India”
Thats quiet unrelated to topic, but some corrections.
India beat Pakistan in WC. India beat Australia and West indies that beat Pakistan in WC. India also entered semis, unlike others.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:52am
@SHAHID SATTAR , we have to worry about our citizens. I hope they go to kartarpur as Sikhs from India and come back as Sikhs
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Jul 16, 2019 10:54am
Here is my observation:
1) Yesterday IMF fined 6$ billion to Pakistan
2) Yesterday Pakistan agreed on all condition of hindustan on Kartarpur corridor
3) Till 3 days ago-Pakistan was stuck on first remove jest from forward bases
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Jul 16, 2019 10:54am
Have fun everybody here. Sometime it's better not to know causes that creat effect. It's a black box model, insight blocked.
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Jul 16, 2019 10:55am
@Tamza, India beat Pakistan. Didn't mention this?
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Jul 16, 2019 10:56am
@Hamza, which language does Pakistan understand?
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Jul 16, 2019 10:56am
This is the Real India we now proudly live in. Thank you Dearest PM Modi for successfully force open Pakistan's airspace, sheer might of IAF is our pride. Jai Hind!
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Jul 16, 2019 11:00am
Did terrorist state India withdraw its fighter planes placed forward?
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Jul 16, 2019 11:03am
@Zain Ansari, right but problem is even small things are not done. Both sides must do it genuinely for their masses. If Pakistan doesn't trust India or modi then no use of cosmetic gestures. Same for India. Today I don't support India no engagement stance but at least they are being clear and truthful about it. Smq termed India acceptance as succesful googly with even IK calling modi a small man. So best way is five or ten years let us forget each other and work on poverty
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Jul 16, 2019 11:10am
Most likely some deal was made behind closed doors. Indian airlines lost more than Pakistan airline whether they would accept it or not. Longer flights and extra customer to indian customers would have been a factor. Indian officials admitted it themselves they were losing millions.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:11am
India to put Rafeals in forward bases from 2020 onwards forget de-escalation
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Jul 16, 2019 11:16am
Modi is the Boss
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Jul 16, 2019 11:19am
Tomorrow (17 July) is the judgement day on Kulbhushan Yadav in the ICJ. I believe, the judgment will be in India's favor. With connecting dots, the opening of air space could be linked with the ICJ judgment.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:20am
All's well that ends well. Indian planes will now avoid longer routes and Pakistan will earn money. So everyone is happy and that is the way it should be.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:23am
Could not understand. It was closed for India bound flights only I guess. Why Pakistan needed to open it? Don't tell me it is for 600USD revenue per flight, it is not even peanuts for Pakistan economy even in this condition
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Jul 16, 2019 11:25am
PERHAPAS Saudis were asked to convey that "if Pak remains adamant on airspace issue, India shall ban all docking & refueling facilities, to any ship, having Pak ports as origin or destination beside banning all international flights, arriving or departing from Pak Airports."
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Jul 16, 2019 11:25am
@Shakir Baakza, ..you are right....as an indian i believe the air corridor should be blocked for planes from delhi...but mumbai shoukd be allowed
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Jul 16, 2019 11:27am
@Shakir Baakza, For each plane using your air space you get USD 500 or above depending on the type of plane. IMF would have told Pakistan it is unwise to lose that money when you are looking for loans.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:30am
After India air striked Pakistan, Pakistan striked back their military bases, captured their pilot and downed 2 of their jets, india accidentally shot their own chopper and killed 6 aboard, Pakistan closed air space for India for 5 months causing them millions of losses.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:31am
@Rashid, you dont show mercy to your own people. Forget about others...
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Jul 16, 2019 11:32am
Why PAK reopening. Let it be closed for security concern. India might attack at any time
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Jul 16, 2019 11:32am
Seems that some other external pressure was also at play in this reopening.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:33am
@zafar iqbal, No. Unfortunately our government is timid.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:34am
Good gesture by Pakistan . Pakistan will have to do things differently to expect different results from what has happened in previous 70 years. India has reciprocated also. Pakistan should focus on welfare of their people and India will do the same. Indians are a multi ethnic, multi religious society and argument that Muslim majority areas including Kashmir belongs to Pakistan cannot be accepted.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:34am
@Veer Singh, Chest thumping? You begged for it for 5 months if i'm not wrong. Besides, you can always choose to not travel through Pakistan. This option is still available by the way, be brave and try not flying over Pakistan.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:35am
Indians must be happy now their prayers are heard.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:35am
Another u turn by IK within a week of strong arm declaration? Can we ever trust or believe what this government and ministers say? Just bending backwards to all types of pressure, first USA,China, then IMF, FATF and now India.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:35am
@SkyHawk, No
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Jul 16, 2019 11:39am
@Hadi,
**Abhinandan is also welcome to try our hospitality again :)**
Hang on to Abhinandan's Cup.
It is the only one you get.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:42am
Modi be careful next time, don't dare to cross our PAK border again otherwise stringent punishment would be inflicted.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:42am
@Hamza, it was our country Pakistan which was loosing precious income due to no flights to all SE countries like Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore etc. Inspite of all the big talks and bravado by our ministers, we were forced to see the ground realities. Expect more such changes in the future inspite of all the brave statements by establishment
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Jul 16, 2019 11:43am
@Tamza,
**pakistan beat NZ and NZ beat India.**
To put the record straight,
A. India beat Pakistan.
B. India beat West Indies and West Indies beat Pakistan.
C. India beat Australia, and Australia beat Pakistan and West Indies, and West Indies Beat Pakistan,
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Jul 16, 2019 11:44am
Rafael effect!!!
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Jul 16, 2019 11:44am
@Imtiaz Ali Khan, "...North Indian goons of RSS Hindutava terrorists..."
You have BIG misconception about RSS. It does not train terrorists and neither it sends them on foreign missions to hurt anybody. All it wish to see Hindus/Indians to remain organised..Aiming to accomplish social upliftment through organisation and thereby National Rise of India.. If you are a well wisher of Indians, you can not be against the RSS.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:46am
@Shaukat Ali Natalkar, Every one who can think clearly is bound to question the wisdom behind such decisions.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:47am
A win-win step. Also good for the environment. There are many more which could help both countries.....all as obvious as the nose on your face.
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Jul 16, 2019 11:51am
@RAJA CHILL, NO. They not!
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Jul 16, 2019 11:58am
Please understand. PAK is losing lot of revenue due to closure of the airspace. Every flight passing thru the airspce is required to pay a certain fee for using its space which is significant from Pakistan point of view. Pakistan cannot afford to penalise others at its own cost
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Jul 16, 2019 12:02pm
@Imtiaz Ali Khan,
Moreover, India saw all round progress due to the policies of first NDA govt headed by Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee who himself was the product of the RSS.. tell me if RSS can produce a person like Mr. Atal Bihari Vajpayee, how can that organisation be inimical to the interests of anybody else.
If a backward class boy(i.e. Mr. Narendra Modi) can reach to zenith in this organisation due the sheer hard work only, how can you fail to see the enabling culture of it.
There are multitude of stories of sacrifice and hard work of RSS cadres, unknown to us.
So please shun the Hate.. be remain only.. what you are.. spreading love and brotherhood among all, without any prejudice.. like your ideal, Sufi saints..
Love you.. From India
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Jul 16, 2019 12:03pm
Indian airspace were available for Pakistan planes to fly over India. So logically, Pakistan had to reciprocate.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:07pm
It is sensible dicision by Pakistan and is good for international aviation. Leave who else were suffering financially, Pakistan too was loosing big time on airline operations and more so on overflying tariffs which came to naught.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:11pm
Glad this got resolved. Hope both countries learn to leave in peace and prosper. This constant mutual animosity is not warranted.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:14pm
Who take losses... India or Pakistan?
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Jul 16, 2019 12:16pm
why ?
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Jul 16, 2019 12:17pm
@Ajay, you’re wrong. In the condition that the Pakistanis economy is in every bit of foreign exchange counts. And the effect of this ban is not purely overflight charges but other issues are involved as well.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:18pm
@Shakir Baakza, Pakistan earns millions of Dollar each month as over flying charges from all airlines using
Pakistan air space. It is international practice under ICAO. Your country airlines also pay when overflying other countries.Pakistan has lost millions by blocking its air space.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:22pm
Good and bold move by Hon. PM
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Jul 16, 2019 12:24pm
@SHAHID SATTAR , Why are you so pessimistic. Ae you more clever than the Hon. PM. Is he not aware of all pros and cons. Once a cry baby always a cry baby.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:25pm
@Deepak Kumar, "Who take losses... "
No one Dear, it is a Win-Win situation.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:27pm
Sensible decision. Why should people suffer? It needlessly increases travel costs and time and burns more fuel which adds to CO2.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:29pm
World order on trade is changing fast. Majority of the population is living in Asia. Majority of the economically backward class are also living here.
Nations must do away with terror and focus on upbringing of their society. Far too much discussion on foreign policy happens in Pakistan. But their foreign policy on ground is nothing less than disaster.
The latest step of opening airspace is a welcome move. It is widely reported in Indian media that fighters from elsewhere and not forward bases participated in Balakot. Not sure, where did Pakistan get the idea on concentration of Indian fighter planes on forward bases.
Pakistan is at the brink of an economic collapse. It should focus on opening its market and increase trust building measures with India and create environment for new businesses to set up shops in Pakistan. Else, Pakistan's economy will not be able to get out of the tailspin that it is currently.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:30pm
@Imtiaz Ali Khan, "a much bigger aggressor.."
Why you term India as a aggressor.. care to explain..
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Jul 16, 2019 12:30pm
@rajkumar, snakes will be snakes!
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Jul 16, 2019 12:44pm
@Dr. Ali, what are you trying to prove here. Have you forgotten scores of Pakistanis begging to Sushma Swaraj for medical visa? So just shut up. This is a win win situation for both countries.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:49pm
Money is more important for Pakistan so WELL DONE.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:50pm
@Tamza, but by that binary logic we have beaten you and also Australia, who have beaten you. Finally you got thrashed by west Indies & we thrashed them....the list goes on...
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Jul 16, 2019 12:52pm
Dr.DJ good brings good be patient
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Jul 16, 2019 12:52pm
Pakistan needed money to pay Reqo Diq?
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Jul 16, 2019 12:54pm
Airspace for Indian flights should remain closed. The most important flight destinations are to the west of Pakistan so we can manage. Indians should feel the stupidity of their actions.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:56pm
@HashBrown, It was the common man who cheered when Modi violated Pakistani airspace and dropped bombs on Pakistani land and then selected him. The common man in Delhi has no sympathy from me at least.
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Jul 16, 2019 12:58pm
@Tamza, and India beat Pakistan
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Jul 16, 2019 12:59pm
@Rashid, Pakistan showed mercy to themselves, due to loss of revenue. Where India de-escalate?
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Jul 16, 2019 12:59pm
So did they remove aircraft from front line? Or did we succumb to pressure as usual?
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Jul 16, 2019 01:00pm
@Shakir Baakza, A very good simple reason. You are losing money which you very badly need.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:02pm
@Sanjeev Chopra, How do you know Trump had this on his agenda? Do you work in the white House or do you get daily briefings from CIA? Your conspiracy theories are just what they are: your own theories with no backup. Pakistan has some red lines and even Americans understand that. Instead of just taking the good will for what it is people like you are making a huge puzzle out of it. Typical Indian mentality.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:11pm
@Pakistani, Congratulation!!
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Jul 16, 2019 01:15pm
@Hadi, I hope you enjoyed our cup of tea recently in England !!!
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Jul 16, 2019 01:16pm
@Sharan, money
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Jul 16, 2019 01:16pm
@Hafeez, You can't hold it too long, because the cookies are too hot
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Jul 16, 2019 01:16pm
@RAJA CHILL, no
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Jul 16, 2019 01:19pm
The real reason why this decision is that PMIK is going to visit white house soon and don't want to hear from Trump the loss of revenue for American Airlines. Refer to news that the restriction lifted hours after American Airlines postponed Delhi flights till October'19
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Jul 16, 2019 01:19pm
Pakistan had no option but to open Air space as it was loosing Air passage fee every day. Pakistan earns around US$ 300 mn from it's air space annually and it is mostly from Indian routes.
With shortage of foreign exchange , Pakistan's civil aviation budget has gone haywire. With Balakot strike Pakistan would be hit so hard was not even imagined by PM MODI, it was a surprise outcome.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:20pm
@Doctor DJ, India is keeping it fighter on bases close to LOC.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:20pm
@Sadiq, India is a peace loving country.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:34pm
Very nice gesture .
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Jul 16, 2019 01:36pm
But Indian jets are still in the forward bases.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:45pm
@Blue Knight, "If a backward class boy(i.e. Mr. Narendra Modi) can reach to zenith..."
Is that why he let it happen in Gujarat under his watchful eye with a desire "to teach them a lesson"? His travel ban was for this reason.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:48pm
A timely step
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Jul 16, 2019 01:50pm
@Doctor DJ, India moved its planes back from Forward bases. US took assurance from India of no Indian childish misadventure. That's why it opened, why else do you think. PAF is just too powerful for India to handle.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:52pm
@Sadiq, India did, it had to move its forward forces back to barracks and wasteful money.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:56pm
@Ramanathan, India loosing more,I read Times of India .Its good gesture by Pak after so many Indian conditions on Kartar sahib accepted .Really i was not expecting .Thanks we should say to PAK govt
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Jul 16, 2019 01:56pm
I hope India behaves now. Indian Airlines is doomed already.
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Jul 16, 2019 01:59pm
@Shah, they should or shouldn’t ... the fact is that now they are open. I feel Pakistan succumbed to pressure once again. It really has no standing and has to succumb in the face of so many vulnerabilities.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:04pm
@Sheikh Sa ...Pakistan beat England and England beat India and NZ and won World Cup.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:07pm
Its too late to reopen. Its shows lac of decision making capacity of our government. .now it too late but still wise to reopen.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:11pm
So much for few pine trees.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:21pm
@Jamal,
You succumbed to pressure as usual.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:30pm
@Amit Bagria, Agree with you.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:34pm
@Jamal, fighter jets are still at original position.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:35pm
It is a very sensible, goodwill gesture by Pakistan. I am very impressed by Imran Khan. He is a good man with a good heart. India should sit with him and really resolve all the Indo Pak issues.
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Jul 16, 2019 02:54pm
@Engineer, you opened the black box.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:01pm
Thanks pakistan, let we a perfect neivour.
Question how?
Let water,people, air free flow
Now changing boundry is not possible any where we both are not USA russia or china.
We both are poor country let's live in peace and
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Jul 16, 2019 03:04pm
@Sadiq, hope expect govt will not help support Uno banned organisations.otherwise Oct fatf .
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Jul 16, 2019 03:08pm
Come on all those saying why we opened it. We cannot keep the corridor closed forever. There was a mini war between Ind and Pak in Feb. Both sides sent message to each other in the war zone. Now it’s time to move on.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:15pm
@Sharan, Why opening??
Because it gives us revenue for bread n butter. Sorry bread. Butter will come after tomatoes get cheaper.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:18pm
@Tamza, weird logic!
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Jul 16, 2019 03:18pm
Stupid decision
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Jul 16, 2019 03:23pm
A country charges commercial flights to use it airspace and ground facilities , Charges are up to $300 for airspace and $600 if ground facilities are used , Due to restrictions 400 flights detoured from Pak airspace ...so pak lost $ 120000 per day comes to $ 18000000
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Jul 16, 2019 03:24pm
Thanks
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Jul 16, 2019 03:27pm
@Sadiq, it is not that aircrafts fly over Pakistani airspace for free. All airlines pay Pakistan for using it's airspace. A nation like Pakistan which is going around with a begging bowl can't afford to ignore this money.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:30pm
@rajkumar, there is no pakistani airline flying to East asia. Little or no. Most goes to Middle east.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:32pm
@Rashid, I think u shud respect de-escalation
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Jul 16, 2019 03:34pm
I don't think there's any de escalation still so why they removed the ban may be track 2 initiative. Whatever the reason may be who even cares till it's beneficial for the humanity.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:35pm
Peace is like diamond for eternal.we should welcome peace initiative taken by Pakistan. Hope such frequent gesture will kick off business for the advantage of both the nation
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Jul 16, 2019 03:43pm
@Zaidi, and how is PIA doing?
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Jul 16, 2019 03:43pm
The message was well received by the world.Well done Pakistan.
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Jul 16, 2019 03:58pm
@bhaRAT©,
"..His travel ban was for this reason.."
It was more to do with the internal politics of India.. Americans hurried lifted it even before the 2014 General Election.. and American Ambassador was among western diplomats who queued up to meet Modi prior to his election.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:00pm
@Hamza, India must have lifted the sanction on PIA filghts through Indian territory.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:00pm
We’re Pakistan’s demands met?
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Jul 16, 2019 04:01pm
"Naya" U-Turn.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:04pm
We r in needs of much needed Money
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Jul 16, 2019 04:12pm
@Pakistani, Check the facts. Pakistani airspace was closed for all international flights crossing over Pakistan.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:24pm
Very Good Move, will save million of $ for other countries and will earns Millions of $ for pakistan
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Jul 16, 2019 04:36pm
Good step towards friendship.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:44pm
@Sameer, Pakistan lost $100million due to the closure of its air space. For a regular Boeing 737 passenger aircraft, Pakistan charges around $600-$700 a day for allowing use of its airspace for terminal navigation and landing. For about 400 flights using its airspace, Pakistan could be earning around $3,00,000 a day.
Pakistan International Airlines suffered more than $450,000 a day due to closure of Indian airspace for its use as flights to places like Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok were suspended. An available longer route made PIA flights unviable. The combined loss of the PIA and CAA was estimated to be $100 million.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:46pm
pakista has no other option, it had to open the airspace or else it would be more bankrupt.
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Jul 16, 2019 04:46pm
@Shakir Baakza, it's both ways .. read it .. India too opens up the airspace for Pakistan... Nothing is free and It is not a favor..
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Jul 16, 2019 04:46pm
@RAJA CHILL, India refused to withdraw and we maintains our stand.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:08pm
All preparations for Washington trip.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:10pm
Whether India has opened it's airspace for Pak Airlines.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:11pm
@HashBrown,
Common man does not fly and certainly to USA.
USA is a just a a dream for many of us
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Jul 16, 2019 05:17pm
@Zaidi, it's Air India, and no it has mismanagement problems very similar to PIA.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:19pm
@Ranjit, Read through the History, Foreign Policy is not handled by PMO in PAKistan. Talk to the guy who is actually in charge.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:20pm
@Ranjit, it's nothing to do w/ gestures. Pakistan is losing money by restricting civil airspace. Pakistan can't afford it.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:39pm
@Zak,
Can you please provide a link on this news. Or is it all nonsense as usual.
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Jul 16, 2019 05:50pm
@Zak, you are always right because you are living in a dream world fairy tale for past 70 years
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Jul 16, 2019 06:08pm
Welcome move !!!
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Jul 16, 2019 06:26pm
@Hadi, "Abhinandan is also welcome to try our hospitality again :)Though, hope better sense prevails."
Ask your DG ispr who knows Abhinandan all too well,by the way your DG ispr never told what happened to the other pilot who was in CMH,he altogether vanished from the scene.
How ungreatfull of him.
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Jul 16, 2019 06:29pm
@Sharan, IK doesn’t want any additional issues when he meets with Trump.
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Jul 16, 2019 06:41pm
Its an irony that our attention is always focused on the surroundings and not what the citizens of the country
think or want to do,The government is concerned about enhancing the image of the countary abroad by any means while closing its eyes to what the public wants.It is understood that pakistanis are the most non
aviation minded people in the world but the few who are have been seriously restrained and restricted from peaceful flying activity always and particularly in last five months in the name of security.It is laughable that the country has only 226 registered aircraft of which 50 are sports and recreational aircraft.All because the
flying activity is discouraged as a matter of policy.
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Jul 16, 2019 06:57pm
Good. Indian Airlines and other india based airlines were suffering financial losses due to closure of airspace. So, this is good for India and Indian aviation sector. Appreciate it.
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Jul 16, 2019 07:03pm
@Zak, did Trump said you this?
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Jul 16, 2019 07:37pm
Very good news
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Jul 16, 2019 07:39pm
@Rashid, you would have liked it!
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Jul 16, 2019 07:58pm
More news on this on Pakistan channel, India did not budge on its decision to move the planes from border. IK under pressure from US and his own internal government that airspace revenue is falling and more debt piling up. U turn by IK to his public as usual. India not yet opened its airspace for Pakistani airlines.
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Jul 16, 2019 08:19pm
@Jon Malik, get real, you guys don't have money to keep the pressure up
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Jul 16, 2019 08:40pm
I think its unfair for us to ask India to withdraw their fighter planes from forward positions. they are inside their own space. Ground troops are also in the forward positions for long period of time. what difference it would make? We should open airspace for civilian purposes as soon as possible.
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Jul 16, 2019 09:28pm
@Sharan, because Pakistan lossed revenue from allowing other countries to use it's airspace
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Jul 16, 2019 09:34pm
@k k tiwari, it's purely bussiness. Revenue loss has major impact on Pakistan because every single dolar is important for paksitan
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Jul 16, 2019 09:34pm
@k k tiwari, it's purely bussiness. Revenue loss has major impact on Pakistan because every single dolar is important for paksitan
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Jul 16, 2019 09:38pm
@Jamil Soomro, New York City, what are you doing there?
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Jul 17, 2019 12:23am
@SHAHID SATTAR , aren't we providing uncalled for facilities to our neighbors just to appease the rulers ego and sense of 'non-existent' co-operation?
Actually, this is an extended arm to continue terror fanning Khalistan. The best way to move forward is to lock the borders for a decade or 2 and focus on development within countries and let the next generations focus and deal with it. The timing is not right at all. Plenty of terror sanctuaries and training centers exist. Lack of education and jobs leads the youth towards terror.
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Jul 17, 2019 05:31am
@Zak, don’t kid yourself. You have no idea . Pakistan cannot afford to loose out on revenue coming from airspace. Have your facts right.
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Jul 17, 2019 06:02am
@Bilal, “Come on all those saying why we opened it. We cannot keep the corridor closed forever.”
Avery reasonable comment. I guess the question is being asked is because just two days back Pakistan had laid down conditions to permit overflight for commercial airlines going to or from India unless India met certain conditions. India refused to meet those conditions and despite that Pak reversed its stand two days later.
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Jul 17, 2019 09:27am
Although Indians will not stop here but it is a good move by Pakistan towards peace.
Further to add Pakistan always shows a good gestures to its neighbours but always get a negative response, especially from the politicians and news anchors/media.
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Jul 17, 2019 09:31am
Air space should be closed for indians for at least fivr years. So that they learn their long lasting lesson.
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Jul 17, 2019 01:46pm
It's all basic economics. Pakistani Aviation Authority has lost US $100 million since the closure. Every airplane flying over Pakistani airspace pays to Pakistani Aviation. Loosing money from 400 international flights every day does not make any sense for Pakistan.
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Jul 17, 2019 02:12pm
Very good and positive step by Pakistan. Really appreciate
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Jul 17, 2019 04:26pm
Why did you guys open your Airspace? You shouldn't have done so. We were OK with that, and so were you.
What happened?
Close it again immediately.
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Jul 17, 2019 07:17pm
@Amit Bagria, what a reply!
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Jul 17, 2019 08:20pm
@Sameer, Willingness to do what?
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Jul 17, 2019 09:48pm
Better late than never
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Jul 17, 2019 10:27pm
@Dharan, What does India have to do with the Taliban? Nonsense!
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Jul 17, 2019 10:30pm
@Pakistani, Other airlines coming from South-East Asia have to first cross India to cross Pakistan but India also blocked its airspace disallowing airlines to enter Pakistan via India.
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Jul 17, 2019 10:33pm
@Idea, What's new in this? You mentioned what everybody knows and India never denied it. What matters is who can withstand the losses better and for longer time? Pakistan tested India for five months and it understood that India can afford it and as such no point continuing with the ban and the last para also mentions the strong reason why Pakistan lifted the ban.
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Jul 17, 2019 11:06pm
Could you afford to keep it closed. A pauper nation was loosing crores when a farthing was important
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Jul 17, 2019 11:28pm
What was the pressure on Pakistan to take this sudden step? Only a day earlier, it had stated that its airspace will remain closed until India removed its fighter jets from forward positions. How then everything changed overnight. A great mystery indeed.
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Jul 17, 2019 11:44pm
Modi should still be made to take the long scenic route
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Jul 18, 2019 03:15am
@Faisal, .... think its unfair for us to ask India to withdraw their fighter planes from forward positions. they are inside their own space. ....
It is not only unfair, but Stupid with a capital "S". The person who suggested this needs mental evaluation. But then he probably prays 4 times a day!
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