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Pakistan urges World Bank to stop Indian projects on Neelum, Chenab

Updated Sep 28, 2016 06:39pm

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WASHINGTON: Pakistan took its case on the Indus Waters Treaty to the World Bank on Tuesday, urging it to prevent India from making illegal constructions on the Neelum and Chenab rivers, embassy officials said on Tuesday.

“In the meeting with the Pakistani delegation, the World Bank committed itself to timely fulfilling its obligations under the treaty while remaining neutral,” said a statement issued by the Pakistan Embassy in Washington.

A Pakistani delegation, led by Attorney General Ashtar Ausaf Ali, met senior World Bank officials at its headquarters in Washington to discuss Pakistan’s recent request for arbitration under Article IX of the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), 1960.

Read: Delhi decides to suspend Indus Water Commission talks

The IWT is a water-distribution agreement between India and Pakistan, brokered by the World Bank and was signed in Karachi on Sept 19, 1960 by President Ayub Khan and Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru.

The treaty gives India complete rights to waters of the Eastern Rivers (Ravi, Sutlej and Beas) and gives Pakistan the rights over the Western Rivers (Indus, Jhelum and Chenab) with limited allowance for use of water by India from the western rivers for purposes of, among others, power generation.

Its Article IX deals with arbitration of disputes between the parties concerning the interpretation or application of the treaty or the existence of any fact which, if established, might constitute a breach of the treaty.

The treaty provides specific design criteria for any hydroelectric power plants to be built by India.

Pakistan has held the position that the Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric plants violate the design parameters of the treaty.

The differences on the designs of the two plants were discussed but could not be resolved in the 108th, 109th, 110th, 111th and 112th meetings of the Permanent Commission for Indus Waters, comprising one commissioner from each country, which is responsible for the implementation of the treaty. Secretary-level talks were then held between governments of India and Pakistan on July 14 and 15 this year.

After the failure of secretary-level talks, on Aug 19, Pakistan initiated formal dispute settlement proceedings under the treaty.

On Aug 19, the government of Pakistan formally requested the government of India for settlement of outstanding disputes over India’s construction of Kishenganga and Ratle hydroelectric plants on rivers Neelum and Chenab respectively, by referring the matters to the Court of Arbitration as provided in Article IX of the treaty.

Pakistan reminded the World Bank that the treaty gives the bank an important role in establishing a court of arbitration by facilitating the process of appointment of three judges, called Umpires, to the Court. India and Pakistan each appoint two arbitrators.

In their meetings with World Bank officials, the Pakistani delegation insisted on early appointment of the judges and setting up the court. The delegation consisted, besides the attorney general, of Water and Power secretary Muhammad Younus Dagha; Pakistan’s Commissioner for Indus Water Mirza Asif Baig; and Joint Secretary (Water) Ahmad Irfan Aslam.

Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States Jalil Abbas Jilani and World Bank’s Executive Director for Pakistan Nasir Khosa also participated in the talks.

The World Bank was represented by Senior Vice President Anne-Marie LeRoy; Vice President for South Asia Annette Dixon; Deputy General Counsel for Operations Alberto Ninio; Chief Counsel for South Asia Melinda Good; and Senior Counsel for International Waterways Victor Mosoti.

The treaty was signed in 1960 after India started interfering with the water flowing downstream by stopping water on rivers Ravi and Sutlej from April 1, 1948.

An Indian newspaper, The Hindu, reported on Monday that India has decided to suspend Indus Water Commission talks until “Pakistan-sponsored terror” in India ends.

The decision was taken at a meeting presided over by Prime Minister Narendra Modi to review the treaty with Pakistan amid heightened tension between the two countries.

India’s National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar, the water resources secretary and senior officials were present at the meeting, the paper said.

But a former commissioner for the treaty, Syed Jamaat Ali Shah told Dawn that India’s decision to suspend talks on the treaty means that there will be no meetings, as described in the agreement, between the commissioners of the two countries in future.

Sources told The Hindu that while the treaty was not reviewed at the meeting, steps to utilise India’s western rivers in a better way were discussed.

Published in Dawn, September 28th, 2016

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Ananth Sep 28, 2016 08:03am

World bank? Who?

Akbar Sep 28, 2016 08:02am

Of course they will use water to try to hurt Pakistan since they can't use anything else!

Akbar Sep 28, 2016 08:03am

Thanks for uniting all the Pakistanis, modi!

Sridhar Korupolu Sep 28, 2016 08:06am

No MMS is on Indian Side ..... Pakistan always focus on secondary things and in process loose focus on important issues.

Monika Sep 28, 2016 08:07am

Well done India.

Chan Sep 28, 2016 08:08am

Hm. Please complain but it won't make any impact. India under modi will do what they want for betterment of their people

Deepa Sep 28, 2016 08:07am

Water should be shared equally amongst all. I know that Delhi government is in a mood to punish, but this surely amounts to environmental terrorism. Very petty, indeed. International community must intervene between these two countries whose politicians are unable able to work things out together.

VINAY Sep 28, 2016 08:08am

World bodies are losing their relevance. China got pulled up on South China Sea by international court of justice. But they have simply ignored it. Israel gets pulled up by UN repeatedly but no avail. Nothing will benefit both countries than peaceful coexistence and world is now tired of india pak squabbles.

Vikram Sep 28, 2016 08:09am

And they agreed..

AHA Sep 28, 2016 08:13am

Any such attempts of internationalizing the matter will be negative for Pakistan. 1) India is trying to utilize its share 2) 81% share can be challenged and changed to 50% as 81% of share was agreed by India as a goodwill gesture.

Bharath Sep 28, 2016 08:14am

hahaa.. it takes decades for courts to decide this

Digvijay (Indore) Sep 28, 2016 08:16am

Pakistan should rather prepare itself for the water scarsity it's gonna face.

Syed Sep 28, 2016 08:15am

What can world Bank do, if UN itself cannot do anything?? Seems like advantage to India as upper riparian

Ramsay Bolton: Our blades are sharp Sep 28, 2016 08:17am

We won't oblige. Let them do what they can! If you want India to listen, then first go and ask China to demolish the dams in Tsangpo. Otherwise why only India should follow all rules?

gaju Sep 28, 2016 08:20am

Time to break the traety 80:20 ration is unsatisfactory

MSN Sep 28, 2016 08:28am

Modi knows where to hit for max impact, Pakistan should be aware of him....

whats in a name Sep 28, 2016 08:32am

So now feeling the pinch right ? Its been too long for India to suffer under terrorism. Now time has come to tighten the lever.

Lets see what World bank says.

Zak Sep 28, 2016 08:32am

While IWT is important , we should not lose focus on most important issue kashmir, India wants us to lose focus from kashmir and wants us to keep busy in other things, we should not let that happen.

OMG Sep 28, 2016 08:40am

Okay. What happened last time?

Sayeed Sep 28, 2016 08:44am

International court ruled against China, did they listen? There are many loopholes in the agreement, Indian can be benefitted from that.

Basically yo are wasting your time.

sad man Sep 28, 2016 08:53am

I feed sorry for both countries. Both chasing something which can't be achieved. Peace

Farhan Sep 28, 2016 08:59am

We are crossing highet of being obnoxious.

IMTIAZ ALI KHAN Sep 28, 2016 09:00am

Please build it India, it will make Pakistanis even more stronger. We Pakistanis will stand together, united against Kashmir atrocities and united for nationalism, we are only 180 million people with vast land, we will find the way to get our water problems resolved one way or the other. Pakistan First.

Sanjoy Paul Sep 28, 2016 09:04am

Please note that India has right to 20% of the flowing water according to this agreement, never cared to hold the water, even after 197, Kargil war etc.

JSR Sep 28, 2016 09:02am

When you talk about equal rights for NSG, India has rights for equal sharing of water

Ashvin Sep 28, 2016 09:04am

India uses just 19.24 % of that water. Rest if it goes to Pakistan. What's wrong to improve the usage of waters when it originates from India itself.

Anil Sep 28, 2016 09:03am

@OMG they failed miserably. They were told whatever India is doing ,its well within its right.

Last Word Sep 28, 2016 09:03am

Pakistan is already feeling the heat even when India has not decided to abrogate the treaty. This is the most potent weapon with India than the military option which would have resulted in wide spread destruction and bloodshed on both sides. Pakistan must urgently introspect the fault lines in its foreign policy to avoid catastrophic consequences continuing its self-destructive policies.

P.K.Shome Sep 28, 2016 09:07am

World Bank? India has substantial stake in that organisation. Does Pakistan got any clout there?

Darshan Sep 28, 2016 09:07am

Kashmir will ruin Pakistan

Sohail Khan Gem Sep 28, 2016 09:11am

India tries to divert Pakistan's attention from kashmir issue. And engaged her somewhere else. But one thing is for sure, Kashmir will get freedom. Whether you like it or not.

tamil Sep 28, 2016 09:13am

Pipeline should be laid to divert waters from Indus and others to TamilNadu as we are dying with thirst due to continuous drought.

Rama Sep 28, 2016 09:17am

what is the problem for Pakistan if India uses its 20% share? Currently Pakistan is using India's share as well. India wants to build dam, store and forward the water to the areas where there is water scarcity (at least till Rajasthan).

WiseAdvice Sep 28, 2016 09:21am

India will use its 20% now.. It was not using even 5% of water flow.. Look at stats..

Dheeraj Sep 28, 2016 09:23am

Who will listen?

aam shehri Sep 28, 2016 09:27am

Action, Reaction!!

Manmohan Sep 28, 2016 09:28am

All should come together to isolate terrorism

Aslam shaikh Sep 28, 2016 09:30am

World bank is money lending body, they will give money to anyone who can return with interest. Please be mature to understand.

Desi Dimag Sep 28, 2016 09:33am

Pakistan has wasted the water, didn't build dams. India will put the strong case against Pakistan in World Bank.

Smh Sep 28, 2016 09:33am

The choice for India is to take soft options like water treaty or military options...which is better.

Suresh Patel Sep 28, 2016 09:36am

Pakistan will play the victim card again. All is fair in love and war.

jaydeep Sep 28, 2016 09:36am

Good move by India !!!

Stun Sep 28, 2016 09:43am

What will world Bank do to India which provides 5 Bn USD as line of credit to other countries annually?

ANT Sep 28, 2016 09:44am

It will take years through the courts and then India can always reject the decision like the Chinese in the south china sea

Alok Sep 28, 2016 09:49am

IWT allow India to use the water with in limits. I dont thin that India will violate the treaty. India, if entitled with in IWT, will use it's share of water. How will that be a problem?

Safdar Sep 28, 2016 09:48am

Good move by Pakistan...it has all the right to file its objections

Gaurav Sep 28, 2016 09:54am

Unfortunately for Pakistan,World Bank is not controlled by China.

D.K. PAMNANI Sep 28, 2016 09:55am

By the time, International Courts takes any decision, commissioning and erection of these projects would have been completed. It takes only 2-3 years to complete the project by Indian Companies.

whats in a name Sep 28, 2016 09:56am

@Safdar Pls raise the objection. No issues. Anyway the decision will take lots of time. Till then save enough water in Pak.

kishor Sep 28, 2016 09:58am

World bank will do nothing....... as WB finances most of the projects in India

Ravi Sep 28, 2016 09:59am

@Safdar Sure wait for judgement

Hindustani Sep 28, 2016 10:01am

Well honestly speaking Modi has got many more friends than Pakistan. Just a reminder.

Skivi Sep 28, 2016 10:03am

India have there own money to make these construction.Also WB never stop none of the fund to India as India is one of the growing economy.

Praphul Sep 28, 2016 10:05am

Well my take on this issue is.. let us avoid stopping, halting or diverting the water. Water is a basic necessity, let us not do war or politics on water. I personally feel it is against our values and humanity.

Bharat Sep 28, 2016 10:09am

What Pakitsan. Does makes no difference.

Niaz Sep 28, 2016 10:14am

Hatred was Modi's electoral policy.Looks like it has become India's Foreign policy too.

flipflop Sep 28, 2016 10:14am

Well Pakistan is not bullying India in anyway. I have a feeling that all these policies could fire back at India. Hope both sides open their eyes and reconcile.

bashir kashmiri Sep 28, 2016 10:20am

these projects are for the development of kashmir , it will provide 3000 MW of electricity in kashmir , why pakistan is trying to stop this project?

Gp65 Sep 28, 2016 10:20am

@Deepa "Water should be shared equally amongst all. I know that Delhi government is in a mood to punish, but this surely amounts to environmental terrorism"

Equally did you say? Are you aware that IWT gives 80% water to Pakistan? Despite that India has honored the treaty through wars. Even now, after review, Modi has decided to honor the treaty but India will focus on ensuring full utilisation of the 20% it is entitled to. Please know that nowhere else in the world does the lower riparian get 80%. Despite having honored this treaty all these years, India has been accused of stealing water.

Zahid Sep 28, 2016 10:27am

Btw Wasn't Moodi denied Entry into US when he was involved in killings of hundreds of Muslims (genocide) in Gujarat. And now he is talking about terrorism. It's like Osama bin laden saying he condemns terrorism lol

Mustafa Hassan Sep 28, 2016 10:28am

Apparently some of the Indian commentators think that closing off rivers is like closing off tap, you will need to build huge dams, then be ready to pay billions of dollars for those dams, and then try to not have that extra water flood your own country. Even if you could do all of this, it will take decades to implement the whole plan. So yeah you need to control your emotions, we all know how good Modi is at fooling his own public.

R.Kannan Sep 28, 2016 10:31am

The days when India was bothered by the World Bank are long gone.

Mrs.khalil Sep 28, 2016 10:32am

Now Pakistan should take some concrete steps to give India a shut up call, they took so much advantages from our goodness, now time has come to pay back , what they are doing

Deepu Sep 28, 2016 10:37am

India is rising super power...World Bank and IMF needs India to fund its programme. Sooner it's understood better will be the outcome.

Tahir Baloch Sep 28, 2016 10:35am

A Cheap Move again by Indian Govt..

Common sense Sep 28, 2016 10:36am

@Darshan its already ruined my friend.

Common sense Sep 28, 2016 10:38am

Dont worry friends you can get china build water treatment plant as well part of CPEC.

Iqbal Sep 28, 2016 10:39am

Think beyond... world bank hardly has any power

Salman Sep 28, 2016 10:45am

We dont make dams ourselves and are blaming india instead .we are nothing but hypocrite people

Sam Sep 28, 2016 10:49am

India 7th largest shareholder in world bank.../

Indian Sep 28, 2016 10:50am

what powers world bank has ?

bala Sep 28, 2016 10:52am

India is important for world bank than Pakistan

Dumbfounded Sep 28, 2016 10:54am

Pakistan is taking wrong step and making India angry in every step.

Indian Sep 28, 2016 10:57am

India should finance those power projects using world banks money

Viv - J&k Sep 28, 2016 11:06am

This doesn't show anything then a frustrated decision.. World Bank will not even bother to knock the gates of a multi trillion economy.. The economy which is already giving multi million $ aid to it's other alliances.

Rocky Sep 28, 2016 11:21am

@Akbar really ? ?

pavan Sep 28, 2016 11:45am

@Salman ..I like your Optimistic comment

Vectra Sep 28, 2016 11:47am

Every one should take based on fact and it needs thinking.Lets focus on some International laws.What they says??

The World Bank is a guarantor in IWT but only on its financial aspect but not on legal aspect. So this means that WB may not legally challenge New Delhi.

Article 62 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties states that the treaty can be revoke if there is a fundamental change of circumstances. The International Court of Justice has also upheld the principle that a treaty may be dissolved by reason of a fundamental change of circumstances (US and Russia had also earlier revoked their bilateral treaty in the past.

Under Article 62 India have the authority to revoke the Indus Water treaty. India may invoke a fundamental change of circumstances clause.

Ibby Sep 28, 2016 11:50am

The treaty is only for Indus and not any of the other rivers. India has not been fully utilizing it's quota, it now wants to do so. India could consume water as needed from other rivers.

RawAgent Sep 28, 2016 12:03pm

@Gp65 Whole water will be used by kashmiries. This will make kashmir independent.

Red Sep 28, 2016 12:03pm

@Mrs.khalil Really would like to know what is the "goodness" that has been displayed by either side towards the other ? Fact is we have no goodness to offer to each other and that is the problem, if goodness was there this situation would not have been there

Bhai Ji Sep 28, 2016 12:13pm

Pakistan is ruining itself going behind Kashmir all the time. For CPEC to truly work Pakistan must mend its ways to better the relations with its neighbours. If not it will only keep going backward & backward!

Kahmiri Sep 28, 2016 12:19pm

Good move by India. India uses only 20% of water as it has already a lot of scarcity of water. By building Canals,Dams and reservoirs, India can meet its huge electricity and drinking water requirements. Pakistan should also support for the equality and try to be a generous country which is already using 80% of water. Is this fair?

himmat Sep 28, 2016 12:25pm

@IMTIAZ ALI KHAN Good Luck

Sardar Khan Tarar Sep 28, 2016 12:47pm

These are all gimmicks for elections as Modi seems unsuccessful in bringing about promised changes and economic progress... So some drama is required for cover up...Anyway thanks for uniting Pakistanis...

Tony Singh Sep 28, 2016 12:56pm

@Mrs.khalil Ok take concrete steps. India is also taking concrete steps by building dams using "concrete" so that water can be stored. Pakistan should also use "concrete" to do the same rather than it flowing into Arabian sea. PUN INTENDED.

Accurate Sep 28, 2016 12:58pm

May World Bank itself will finance this project to India ...lets see

ManMohan Sep 28, 2016 01:03pm

I think it is a disputed treaty and not fair with 80/20 rule. It should be either 50/50.

vibhas Sep 28, 2016 01:26pm

This water is for Kashmiri muslims..I am sure, Pakistan would willingly forgo its claim and allow kashmiri`s to utilize water. Pakistan stands with Kashmiri muslims

Imtiaz Ali Khan Sep 28, 2016 01:26pm

@himmat Good luck to you my brother also, we want peace but fanatics on both sides are hurting that brotherly love between us. Only one place on this earth is like home to us after Pakistan and that is India. Shanti dost.

SVK Sep 28, 2016 01:47pm

Unfortunately even utilisation of water strictly as per limit specified by the IWT can affect Pakistan. Though India kept on hold the construction of dam as a good gesture by acceding to Pakistan's request, there has been pressure from Kashmir Government to do so now for its development. World Bank may look at the issue with sympathy for Kashmir and it's development.

Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Sep 28, 2016 01:52pm

That's the only way to resolve this type of crucial issues with India by directly involving a powerful third party entity like the influential World Bank in Washington, D.C.

In fact, neutral, unbiased and third party historical data prove the fact that the Indian leaders only listen to the voice of power and influence and anything and everything other than that they hardly care.

It's the high time and the right time for the Pakistani government to use the influence and involvement of strong and forceful third parties to settle all of their outstanding disputes with India including the core issue of Jammu and Kashmir.

arif Sep 28, 2016 01:57pm

@IMTIAZ ALI KHAN thanks for permitting to build the dams in india. If it makes pakistan more stronger then that is very usefull for people of kashmir.

surya Sep 28, 2016 01:58pm

@Mustafa Hassan India need a lot of water.... many industries need water... India just consume.

Taimoor Khan Sep 28, 2016 02:05pm

This should be the high time to brush aside and put out all the noises who are against creating the water reservoirs like Kalabagh Dam and get on with the construction asap. We need to be prepared for the worse now and national water security cannot be held hostage for few vested interests.

Taimoor Khan Sep 28, 2016 02:11pm

Indus originate in China. Why dont Pakistan-China divert Indus bypassing Indian territory and change the course, hence no water will be going to India.

M.Saeed Sep 28, 2016 02:16pm

@Darshan : It has already ruined India.

A Shah Sep 28, 2016 02:26pm

Who cares we have CPEC

AZAAD Sep 28, 2016 02:26pm

Good move.

ek nasheed Sep 28, 2016 02:42pm

@Akbar so now what?

Truth Sep 28, 2016 02:45pm

@Mustafa Hassan India had definitely considered this things thats why it didn't abrogated the treaty rather it siad India will use maximum of its share of water.

Adeel Sep 28, 2016 02:49pm

@Gaurav but china control two main source of water flowing in India OOPS !

Roger Sep 28, 2016 02:57pm

Please every one read the treaty first https://thegeekuday.wordpress.com/2016/09/28/what-is-indus-water-treaty/ .. India can build hydroelectric projects according to treaty..Kishanganga and Baglihar arbitrations are both are hydroelectric projects..

MMR Sep 28, 2016 02:57pm

I am an Indian and have my views on Pakistan. But, stopping water is really stooping very low. The elite and ruling class will have their way of getting what they need but it is the common man who will be affected the most in Pakistan. We are destroying any goodwill that is left for India amongst the common population. The country really needs to reconsider its strategy.

Shivan Sep 28, 2016 03:47pm

@Gaurav That is a good one!

qaiser ahmed Sep 28, 2016 03:51pm

Go to the World bank.. are you being serious?

M. Siddique Sep 28, 2016 04:06pm

Either World Bank takes action or else.

AXH Sep 28, 2016 04:09pm

India is doing what India does best, try to bully the others who dare stand up to her bullying tactics.

mak Sep 28, 2016 04:13pm

Modi is trying to divert the international community focus from Kashmir freedom movement in IOK.

Satyameva Jayate Sep 28, 2016 04:27pm

Forget Dams. Modi has just J&K Ministers and Planners to CONSUME as much water as they can which is allowed in IWT, along with the run of the mill power projects. Only thing that is not allowed is storage and diversion out of the IWT system.

Nasir Sep 28, 2016 04:33pm

Trust me Modi is creating more problems for himself and his country day by day with his literate statements

Rana Sep 28, 2016 04:49pm

India should review the treaty considering the current situation and what might happen 25 years down the road. It has been 56 years since it was signed and things have changed greatly since then. It needs to be renegotiated with a review every 10 years.

Gaurav Sep 28, 2016 05:05pm

@M. Siddique, "Either World Bank takes action or else."

Either World Bank takes action or else...World Bank doesn't take action.

Krishankant Sep 28, 2016 05:09pm

We want peace and just want Pakistan to act against terror organizations operating from its soil. War never helps, they pushes decades in past.

Akshay Sep 28, 2016 05:12pm

But unfortunately World bank cannot stop these projects.

DV Sep 28, 2016 05:17pm

@Nasir, Let him create trouble for us and our country. We are ok with his decision. We don't want anyone to take tension for India. We know what is good or bad for us.

Paul Sep 28, 2016 05:16pm

Sharing ratio should be 50:50..... Well done India.

Anil Kumar Muraleedharan Sep 28, 2016 05:19pm

@IMTIAZ ALI KHAN , Good spirit sir.

Jim Sep 28, 2016 05:22pm

World Bank is presently partly funded by India. Huge difference between 1960 India and present India. WB has no levers the use against India.

malik Sep 28, 2016 05:57pm

Modi should consider blocking air coming from Pakistan Eastern border as well. Well Done India

Auginpk Sep 28, 2016 05:55pm

@Darshan

Dear

That is the general idea.

Malveros Sep 28, 2016 06:31pm

Why India has complete 100% rights over Ravi, Sutlej and Beas ? That agreement should be changed. Pakistan should get minimum 20% of the water rights over those rivers.

Nasir Sep 28, 2016 06:46pm

@Chan so do Pakistan, at the end it probably hurt more to India. Unfortunately, it will be continued as tit for tat until Kashmir issue is resolved and accepted by both India & Pakistan.

dsheth Sep 28, 2016 06:52pm

UN or World bank, who r they to decide on indian water.

Agha Ata Sep 28, 2016 06:58pm

The World Bank may not be able to help Pakistan in this respect, but good relations with India will.

neutral Sep 28, 2016 07:04pm

World Bank is neutral between India-Pakistan disputes, its just a facilitator and hence any disputes has to be resolved bilaterally between India and Pakistan, hence Pakistan should have good will with India,

Srikanth Sep 28, 2016 07:16pm

PAK and INDIA should make LOC as international border then both countries will benefit

Ahmed bin Babar Sep 28, 2016 07:19pm

We need one national water security commission (NWSC) to monitor the Indus basin treaty and other objective and strategic solutions for the nationwide water & power distribution and consumption...

Myview Sep 28, 2016 07:26pm

World Bank will not and cannot intervene.China will not reciprocate. Other world powers will not get involved. So,it comes down to these two countries to sit down and resolve.

Pakistani Sep 28, 2016 07:34pm

@Ananth why am I not surprsied. When you are in the habit of doing UN who? what chance does world bank stand. What does treaties mean anyway when you have no intention to fulfilling them.

Ahmed bin Babar Sep 28, 2016 07:45pm

@Myview Are you expert from the world bank or spokesman of the Chinese government..?

Nazir Sep 28, 2016 08:31pm

Another 70 years in waiting for solution.

Tahir Sep 28, 2016 08:34pm

This will set a dangerous example for the world.

I guess most Indians posting chest thumping comments dont realise that all their major rivers source from China including Ganges, Ravi, Chenab, Indus, Jhelum etc

So do India... one day soon China sees your example to quench their thirst and to use water as a blackmail tool.

Indian 1 Sep 28, 2016 08:38pm

World bank ??? We are not depends on them.

Indian Sep 28, 2016 08:47pm

All these dams will benefit Kashmir economically

indian muslim Sep 28, 2016 08:51pm

All i can say is that India is exploring options to exploit the situation to the to the maximum. Unfortunately Modi ji know that war is no option for India as per the advise of Indian armed forces and at UN it was an unsuccessful campaign for Indian diplomats and got lashed back from Pak so i guess he need to show something as he is been tamed as all Talk, No show Model

N_Saq Sep 28, 2016 08:59pm

Indian leadership is desperate and desperate times call for desperate measures. All this is to divert attention from atrocities being committed in IHK and all this political showmanship is for Indian audience.

Outside of Indo-Pak region no one is listening and no one cares. All you will hear from international forums is to work it out among yourselves. The sooner Pak and India work things out together the better otherwise this tit for tat game is going to take both countries nowhere.

It is time to sit down and talk all issues without preconditions and find a resolution for the benefit of the people. Talk and more talk is the answer otherwise it will bring more chaos, violence and misery in the life of poor people of both countries.

Saner elements are warning and I hope sanity prevails.

Payal Verma Sep 28, 2016 09:15pm

@JSR absolutely!

Payal Verma Sep 28, 2016 09:17pm

@Ashvin absolutely! 100% true.

Payal Verma Sep 28, 2016 09:18pm

@Darshan absolutely! let them do that!

Payal Verma Sep 28, 2016 09:24pm

@Suresh Patel and undoubtedly water!

jayj Sep 28, 2016 09:41pm

India does not need the stinking money from any one to build what ever they want !

Bhupi Sep 28, 2016 09:49pm

Modi is not like other PM India had .. so better buckle up your seats ..

John Sep 28, 2016 10:33pm

The treaty is invalid as it was signed by the Prime minister of India who is not head of the Indian republic.[20] The President of India is the official head of the state.

Nazir Sep 28, 2016 11:55pm

India wont ask money from world bank. Woeld bank cant say what we do in india.

Saif Sep 29, 2016 12:36am

@Mustafa Hassan don't worry we will prove u wrong and make and complete dams before time .

Saif Sep 29, 2016 12:42am

@malik we are waiting for latest technology. We will do that in future if needed.

fawad Sep 29, 2016 02:50am

@Srikanth

LOC as border does nothing for the Kashmiris on the Indian side. They want freedom.

San Sep 29, 2016 02:56am

@Pakistani

Remember Simla agreement!!!!!!

Javan Sep 29, 2016 02:57am

@N_Saq no one really cares about Kashmir news in India. So Modi doesn't have to divert anyone's attention.

Lalit Sep 29, 2016 06:01am

It's not business as usual now my friends, somehow you thought you have the upper hand & India will not retaliate. You are dealing with MODI not Manmohan Singh.

Mukul Sep 29, 2016 06:04am

@M. Siddique or else what dear what will you do if world bank takes no action?

Shahid Sep 29, 2016 07:24am

@Tahir Dude you are wrong, except Indus all major (ones which matter) tributaries of the rivers you mention originate in India.

Shahid Sep 29, 2016 07:38am

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad The only settlement of Jammu and Kashmir will be for you to accede the portion you control to India. Status quo remains otherwise (for your benefit). What powers are you talking about? US? they will not interfere. Try it and you'll learn the hard way.

vs Sep 29, 2016 07:46am

"Pakistan urges World Bank to stop Indian projects on Neelum, Chenab" :

  1. On what basis ?
  2. Stop even if within the treaty framework ? Good luck with that.
Ali Sep 29, 2016 07:47am

Looking at Google Maps, the western rivers which Pakistan has access to hardly flows in the territory controlled by India. I wonder what are they going to build in their territory, when it has been a challenge to build a rail line to that area.

Hi Sep 29, 2016 07:57am

Good decision indeed!

Zak Sep 29, 2016 07:58am

@Ananth world Bank, the one that has lent you $500 billion to keep you afloat.

Zak Sep 29, 2016 08:01am

@Chan let's see. Modi failed in his vilification drive against pakistan, Infact world is now telling him to stop killing Kashmiris. Modi can't deflect or escape kashmir conflict.

Tahir Baloch Sep 29, 2016 10:51am

Same old tactics of Indian Govt. pushing the limits.

Tahir Baloch Sep 29, 2016 10:52am

Indian govt. should follow the treaty of Nehru the great.

Akil Akhtar Sep 29, 2016 11:01am

India is a threat to regional peace....

Indian-Human Sep 29, 2016 12:44pm

India is trying to maximize utilization of water which is rightful as agreed in treaty. So need to be skeptical about it.

KT Sep 29, 2016 12:47pm

World Bank cannot be fully trusted some alternate means must be resolved out !

Pune-India Sep 29, 2016 01:34pm

@Akbar : Water is the lifeline of human being...even you don't hurt...

Sherkhan Sep 29, 2016 02:39pm

@Akbar And same here, in India, dude.

Guest Sep 29, 2016 03:34pm

@Malveros Change is good.

Kamath Sep 29, 2016 05:32pm

@Bharath I: yes indeed . Sometimes decades!

Temo Shanko Sep 29, 2016 06:11pm

Why not stop cross border terrorism as demanded by India, then all disputes can be settled.

Adeeb Sep 29, 2016 06:13pm

This war mongering on both side will lead to destruction only. Does war ever resolve an issue?

Mohammad Asghar Sep 29, 2016 07:00pm

No ambiguity. People of India and Pakistan know that stopping water is an act of war.

Kumar Sep 29, 2016 07:43pm

@Tahir China is already diverting Brahamputra water. No one can stop them.

Kumar Sep 29, 2016 07:44pm

@Mohammad Asghar No one is stopping water.

rajesh Sep 30, 2016 12:16am

My simple question is why is Pakistan not building more dams and utilising the waters? Since it's not, please don't stop India from building dams and letting her utilize the waters...

joju Sep 30, 2016 02:50am

@Tahir we will shut their 50$ billion trade defecit..............hmmmm.......is all that water worth the 50 Bill..............so difficult to decide

KP Sep 30, 2016 04:42am

Pakistani Doston,

Please read the first point in this section addressed to the Govt. of Pakistan from the UN resolution on Kashmir "A - RESTORATION OF PEACE AND ORDER"

http://www.un.org/en/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=S/RES/47(1948)

"1. The Government of Pakistan should undertake to use its best endeavours:

(a) To secure the withdrawal from the State of Jammu and Kashmir of tribesmen and Pakistani nationals not normally resident therein who have entered the State for the purposes of fighting, and to prevent any intrusion into the State of such elements and any furnishing of material aid to those fighting in the State;"

This recommendation of the UN has never been honored by Pakistan in 70 years..

-Thanks

Akil Akhtar Sep 30, 2016 05:56am

India seems to be behaving like a medieval society ...it will take them 1000 years to behave more maturely...

Bloch Sep 30, 2016 06:12am

Why asking WB when you have means to do it.

aslam shaikh1 Sep 30, 2016 07:16am

This Thug like attitude is interesting to see but very dangerous

Ravi Vancouver Sep 30, 2016 10:40pm

@Darshan Don't be under any illusion, Pakistan and its people are prepared to give any sacrifice to help their Kashmiri brothers to achieve freedom from Indian occupation.