Kashmir can never become part of Pakistan, Sushma tells Nawaz

Dawn.com Published July 23, 2016

NEW DELHI: Indian Minister for External Affairs Sushma Swaraj on Saturday said Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif must know that "Kashmir can never become a part of Pakistan".

"Whole India wants to tell Pakistani premier in one voice that his and Pakistan's dream (of making Kashmir its part) will never come true," Swaraj said during a press conference.

The Indian minister also accused Pakistan of backing militants with the help of UN designated terrorists and notorious figures like Hafiz Saeed, in order to turn the valley into a living hell.

"The Pakistani PM says his prayers are with people of Kashmir. I must remind him that Pakistan has never prayed for the people of the valley but has given them pain in the form of terrorism," said Swaraj.

She also condemned Nawaz Sharif's condemnation of separatist commander Burhan Wani's murder and asked him why he described Wani as a martyr despite knowing that he was a part of the 'terrorist group' Hizbul Mujahideen.

Nawaz Sharif, while addressing a public gathering on Friday after his party's victory in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (Pakistan administered part of Kashmir) elections, said: "We are waiting for the day Kashmir becomes Pakistan."

"Their movement for freedom cannot be stopped and it will be successful. You are aware of how they are being beaten and killed. All our prayers are with them and we are waiting for the day Kashmir becomes Pakistan," Nawaz had said.

Following the July 1 killing of Burhan Wani, a 22-year-old separatist commander known for his call to arms on social media against Indian rule, Nawaz had condemned the killing and oppressive measures adopted by Indian forces against those protesting against the killing.

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Beyond borders

Jul 23, 2016 08:23pm

Indian Kashmir will remain with India and Pakistan Kashmir will remain with Pakistan for the next 1000 years. This is the fact.

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Neutral

Jul 23, 2016 08:26pm

We must not come to conclusion that Kashmir becomes part of India or Pakistan. First we must agree that we want to hear people of Kashmir, what they want.

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Harmony-1©

Jul 23, 2016 08:31pm

Leaders on both sides making egoistic statements whilst Kashmiris suffer!

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Syed Mansoor

Jul 23, 2016 08:32pm

Why Kashmir can't become part of Pakistan? Has she bought that part of land for India? Only the people who live there can decide their fortune. Nothing can surpass the will and power of the people.

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Qaiser from mzd

Jul 23, 2016 08:38pm

For your kind information, kashmiriz don't need either of your permission to decide there own fate. People who swallow bullets on there eye balls ,hold there head high and March on the road to their destiny. Come what may!!!!!

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aamir ayub

Jul 23, 2016 08:39pm

The only solution of Kashmir is plebiscite. Both India and Pakistan rulers have to resolve the issue of Kashmir keeping the interest in front of 1.5 billion population of their countries. the majority of indo-pak population is drowning in the river of poverty and insecurity due to this problem of kashmir. the rulers of both the countries must resolve it for the betterment of the entire region.

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Saleem

Jul 23, 2016 08:45pm

This is where India is wrong! It is the people of Kashmir to decide and not the Government who is suppressing Kashmiri people.

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sunny

Jul 23, 2016 08:45pm

terrorist need to be killed .

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Tridev

Jul 23, 2016 08:58pm

There goes the Indo Pak peace process.

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bkt

Jul 23, 2016 08:59pm

Ms. Sushma we don't want Kashmir to be a part of Pakistan. We want you to fulfill your agreement on which basis there was a UN ceasefire to have a referendum on Kashmir like you had with Hyderabad state. That's all. As a democratic country you must give people the right to exercise their right their vote.

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Azhar Jamil

Jul 23, 2016 09:01pm

Kashmir is a land for Kashmiri people. Neither for India nor for Pakistan. She should revise her statement in the light of human rights and also response in a responsable manner. Current statement is biased one also.

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Saulat Haider

Jul 23, 2016 09:04pm

Peace and human development are more important than any kinds of bad feeling for each other. Biased feelings are feelings. They are not realty and does not tell facts on the ground.

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NRI

Jul 23, 2016 09:06pm

Aazad Kashmir will never part of India and Jammu & Kashmir will never be part of Pakistan. Everyone knows this situation. Lets get out of the dreams and be practical.

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Zafar

Jul 23, 2016 09:14pm

We're not interested in what is India is telling us. More importantly India should tell listen to what Kashmiris are saying to them!

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Rohit

Jul 23, 2016 09:15pm

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Afghani

Jul 23, 2016 09:18pm

You are no one to decide. Let the Kashmiris decide their fate.

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Khan

Jul 23, 2016 09:21pm

Let Kashmiris decide they should be given the right to determine their destiny

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Namo

Jul 23, 2016 09:20pm

@bkt read the UN resolution first then comment.

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Jul 23, 2016 09:23pm

@bkt In November 2010 the United Nations has removed Jammu and Kashmir from its list of disputed territories.

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N.S

Jul 23, 2016 09:27pm

Yes true, Kashmir need to be an independent state and they need to get the right of self determination just like all civilized nations have. India is propagating false claims here, just give them the right to decide what is good for them, so simple and straightforward.

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lafanga

Jul 23, 2016 09:28pm

"Kashmir can never become a part of Pakistan" Wrong madam. It's for the Kashmiris to decide whether they want to be part of India, Pakistan or be independent. Can you not see this simple message on the faces of innocent Kashmiris for last seven decades? "The Pakistani PM says his prayers are with people of Kashmir. I must remind him that Pakistan has never prayed for the people of the valley but has given them pain in the form of terrorism," Wrong again madam. Over 68000 Kashmiris have been killed in IOK since the 1980's. Not by Pakistan but by your occupation. It's about time you accept the fact that you will never be able to rule Kashmir by force. Kashmiris want their voices heard and they want their freedom and human rights. Your loud voice from Delhi will never be able to drown out the collective voice of Kashmiris. Accept the fact.

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Jay

Jul 23, 2016 09:29pm

@Zafar then why are you so interested???!!?

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noshin

Jul 23, 2016 09:32pm

who is Sushma Sawaraj to decide the fate of Kashmir?

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Hafiz Saeed

Jul 23, 2016 09:51pm

Let Kashmirs decide

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Ahsan Gul

Jul 23, 2016 09:54pm

Both India and Pakistan are wrong when it comes to Kashmir. Kashmir will be should be an independent country with its own constitution, currency and government. Both these countries should get out from there, India needs to grant freedom to Kashmir as British gave to freedom to her 1947. How long India will committ human violations atrocities in Kashmir?

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madhan

Jul 23, 2016 09:56pm

@bkt first read that UN agreement

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Right of self determination

Jul 23, 2016 10:11pm

@sunny And right of self determination is a fundamental human right. This what Kashmiris are asking in Indian held Kashmir, aren't they?

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M. Asghar

Jul 23, 2016 10:13pm

@Rohit : both sides have to vacate their side of Kashmir for the referendum to be held under UN supervision.

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raja

Jul 23, 2016 10:21pm

@Rohit well said

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Tamil

Jul 23, 2016 10:26pm

Sorry Ma'am, we in Tamil Nadu disagree.

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Monsieur S

Jul 23, 2016 10:31pm

@Tridev do you really care??? I don't .... India and Pakistan can never be at peace ....

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Jehanzeb Idrees

Jul 23, 2016 10:35pm

@Rohit: So was India.

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Elya

Jul 23, 2016 10:38pm

@Rohit at least people in the pakistan side of kashmir are not oppressed!

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Nadeem

Jul 23, 2016 10:48pm

Madam you better let Kashmiris decide on this. Do not talk on their behalf.

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S Shah

Jul 23, 2016 10:48pm

Sushma Ji wakeup. This is 21st century. No colonial power exist any more. You have to let go the people of Kashmir.

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Anirban De

Jul 23, 2016 10:50pm

Leadership in Pakistan should not make people hostile towards India by making political statements. If done, then peace between two can never be achieved.

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Anirban De

Jul 23, 2016 10:52pm

@Rohit Lets be real.

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Kyoorius

Jul 23, 2016 10:52pm

@bkt Go read the UN resolution first before commenting.

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t.j

Jul 23, 2016 10:54pm

Kashmiris for that matter any muslim must understand that they are more safe and secure in countries where muslims are a minority.

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muslim

Jul 23, 2016 10:57pm

Kashmiri's and not the indians have to decide whether they will become part of Pak or get indep state.

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Sab Se Pehle Pakistan

Jul 23, 2016 11:00pm

It is the democratic right of the people of Kashmir if they want to stay with India or Pakistan or Independent. Let them decide

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Khwaja

Jul 23, 2016 11:19pm

Suppressing people's voice will only bring more voices. Kashmiri people must not be pushed to the dead end.

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khan in chandler

Jul 23, 2016 11:23pm

If it was not done 50 years ago, it will not be done now when India is more powerful economically. Please make peace with each other and realize the reality.

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Hamzq

Jul 23, 2016 11:31pm

That means India just want to occupy Kashmir territory. India has no concern with humanity and people rights.

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Akshay

Jul 23, 2016 11:29pm

In November 2010 the United Nations has removed Jammu and Kashmir from its list of disputed territories...

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Omar

Jul 23, 2016 11:43pm

Kashmiri people are not India and clearly do not want to be part of India. It is unnatural to force them. They want to be with their kinsmen Pakistan. Why is this so hard for India to understand.

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SSG Wazir

Jul 23, 2016 11:50pm

Let the people of kashmir be given right to vote and self determination. They are not happy within India occupation. They want a separate state free from invaders army.

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Imran

Jul 23, 2016 11:54pm

Maybe not today but eventually Kashmir will either be independent or be a part of Pakistan.

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Priya

Jul 24, 2016 12:16am

@bkt have you read the UN resolution over Kashmir if not then go to unsc website and download it. It will help you

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Gaurav

Jul 24, 2016 12:32am

@Rohit Awesome reply Rohit.

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adil

Jul 24, 2016 12:40am

Let the Kishmiris decide for their future. Rai shumai please .

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Tariq

Jul 24, 2016 01:03am

But the people of Kashmir want live independently and out of oppression.

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Waseem

Jul 24, 2016 01:53am

@Rohit let's be it, but how about you?

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Harsh

Jul 24, 2016 01:55am

@bkt you must fulfill the precondition for plebiscite to happen

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Zak

Jul 24, 2016 02:04am

@Rohit UN will decide who has to do what next, so don't bother yourself.

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Abraham Haque

Jul 24, 2016 02:25am

@bkt yes read the first part of that agreement

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M.Jamal

Jul 24, 2016 02:49am

It is not possible to go against the wishes of the people in 21st century.Kashmiris make your dream true.

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atif

Jul 24, 2016 03:19am

@Rohit OK lets do it together !! ? whats the problem!!

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Shah

Jul 24, 2016 03:57am

Every terrorist should be eliminated without a single thought.

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Jul 24, 2016 04:07am

@Rohit This is the voice of sanity, very correct.

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badshah

Jul 24, 2016 04:20am

@Rohit Agreed and Kashmiris can create independent Kashmir.

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LandofIndus

Jul 24, 2016 04:20am

No body "gives" land to anyone. What is ours has to be "taken". If we are not willing to fight for what is ours, then we should not claim it.

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Shobhit

Jul 24, 2016 05:04am

@bkt Have you read the UN resolution on Kashmir ? What is the first requirement ?

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Rafay Azhar

Jul 24, 2016 05:17am

For starters Nawaz Sharif should stop considering Modi as a buddy, and tell him to back off from Kashmir. Let the Kashmiri people decide their own future.... an independent Kashmir.

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Syed Ali

Jul 24, 2016 05:23am

Intellectuals and human rights lovers on both sides should sit to gather and find solution to this problem once for all.

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Alam

Jul 24, 2016 05:36am

About Kashmir let Kasmiris decide.

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Ahsan

Jul 24, 2016 06:13am

@sunny you mean Indian soldiers and government right?

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checkMate

Jul 24, 2016 06:43am

@Saleem what about when Nawaz Sharif says the same thing?

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Rama

Jul 24, 2016 06:45am

@bkt First meet the conditions laid down by UN, before making any illogical statement

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Patrick Sarsfield

Jul 24, 2016 07:22am

@Saleem Would the people of Kashmir vote for independence or vote to join Pakistan?

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Kamal2

Jul 24, 2016 07:46am

@Zafar dont get it , rephrase it.

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Kamal2

Jul 24, 2016 07:45am

@Rohit which group is your UN?

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Raunak Singh

Jul 24, 2016 07:52am

@Zafar ... Kashmiris doesn't mean the Muslim population.. There are others too

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Raunak Singh

Jul 24, 2016 08:36am

@Khwaja.. No problem... We are ready for it..

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Azhar Hussain

Jul 24, 2016 08:44am

The hearts and mind of Kashmiri people show when they demonstrate with a Pakistani flag in their hand. Try taking that away.

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Jul 24, 2016 08:48am

@Qaiser from mzd - for listening ur sentence is very nice. but practicality is difficult.

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Faisal Amir

Jul 24, 2016 09:00am

Why can't we let Kashmiri people decide what they wan't instead of claiming???

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Raza Akhtar

Jul 24, 2016 09:00am

Kashmir should belong to Kashmiris, they have a right to freedom

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Jul 24, 2016 09:21am

@noshin :"who is Sushma Sawaraj to decide the fate of Kashmir?" and who are you to make that statement?

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Faps

Jul 24, 2016 10:51am

@Neutral what is the definition of Kashmiri people? Do you include millions of Hindus in that?

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ziqbal

Jul 24, 2016 10:54am

@Jay ... Because I am being told something. Please read the news you are commenting on

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M.Jamal

Jul 24, 2016 11:04am

Why we Pakistanis and Indians claim that Kashmir is ours please let the Kashmiris decide their fate but please make this a free world and let people live on their own.

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Raja

Jul 24, 2016 12:12pm

@Zak un alredy removed it from list of concerns

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SAM

Jul 24, 2016 12:28pm

@noshin Sushma Swaraj is a Cabinet Minister of Republic Of India, of which Jammu and Kashmir is a state. On the other hand, who are you ?

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Independent

Jul 24, 2016 12:35pm

Both nations need to be practical and keep their own occupied part. Time to accept reality and work for peace and development.

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Jul 24, 2016 12:43pm

Why cant we just give them freedom independent of both countries.

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Zak

Jul 24, 2016 12:55pm

@Raja is that what you are fed. Here's the truth - UNMOGIP still monitoring Loc. Now take deep breath, you will feel better.

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MAHESHMS

Jul 24, 2016 01:01pm

Not a single indian believes Kashmir should become independent. Only pakistanis are advocating for independence. Why not start with AJK and see how it goes. AJK kashmiris will be very happy as they have support and good wishes of 180 million pakistanis with them.

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OMPRAKASH

Jul 24, 2016 01:07pm

kashmir can not be independent ,as at the time of partition , british givt.given two option wheather to join india or pakistan only. the best solution is to make loc an international border.if any kashmiri wanted to migrate to other country ,he can go once.there is no exchage of land but only people can migrate.this is the best solution forever.

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Ejaz kashmiri

Jul 24, 2016 03:19pm

"Whole India wants to tell Pakistani premier in one voice that his and Pakistan's dream (of making Kashmir its part) will never come true," Swaraj said during a press conference.( voice of one) "Whole Kashmir wants to tell Indian premier in one voice that his and India 's dream (of making Kashmir its part) will never come true," say all the people of Kashmir.( voice of one nation)

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Houlbelat

Jul 24, 2016 03:26pm

@Neutral : They already speak with the flags in their hands.

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straightforward

Jul 24, 2016 03:37pm

Kashmir is disputed territory with illegitimate hold of indian forces !

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asgher

Jul 24, 2016 04:17pm

One word, Referendum!

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DR J THEJUS

Jul 24, 2016 04:24pm

I hope peace comes back to the beautiful Kashmir valley. I hope the people there can live without fear. Both governments should sit together and discuss what can be done to achieve this. This is a beautiful song from Kashmir. https://youtu.be/hbzjwG3vWh0

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Faisal

Jul 24, 2016 05:19pm

India will never become a member of UNSC.

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Zubaida Khan

Jul 24, 2016 05:26pm

The fact that she has to even say this speaks volumes. Her words are full of arrogance. Inshallah Kashmir will be ours, remain humble and penitent.

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Santosh

Jul 24, 2016 05:57pm

Let there be a plebiscite in Kashmir. Let the Kashmiris themselves decide...

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Ateeq

Jul 24, 2016 08:48pm

why is she so scared that Kashmiris will decided for Pakistan. If you believe in democracy, let the people decide for themselves.

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Zubair Siddiqui

Jul 24, 2016 11:04pm

Kashmir may not be apart of Nawaz Sharif's Pakistan but India and Pakistan including the whole of Kashmir will be a part of each other -all together when neither Sushma nor Nawaz will be there and some kind of a wiser leadership will take their place replacing the closed mind Modis and Shareefs. This a 'Divine law of History;.It is a matter of time only.

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Kris WA

Jul 24, 2016 11:23pm

UN is a toothless body today. Nothing can change or influence India. This was the case even when UN was a powerful body and India was weak country. now we know the situation. India can never give up an inch of a Kashmir and so as Pakistan on their part. Its better to accept the status quo and move on. Politicizing and Making news out on Kashmir for 70 years and nothing has changed. someone said that if you can't achieve something on a war and you can't achieve on negotiation table. its so true. 4 wars fought and nothing could change. and If Pakistan wants they can initiate one more big war and close the Kashmir chapter. We understand that root cause for Pakistans's Kashmir cause is water safety for Pakistan. They don't want India to control that. that could directly be worked out by other means. India never stopped water to pakistan even during the war.

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Houlbelat

Jul 24, 2016 11:29pm

@Kris WA : Nothing has changed in 70 years because Kashmiris were hopeful and became old, waiting for miracle. Now, the new-breed Kashmiris have taken the reins in their own youthful hands.

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Zak

Jul 25, 2016 12:30am

@Santosh well said. Another sane indian voice.

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Ranjana

Jul 25, 2016 04:44am

@aamir ayub Well and truly said. Kashmir has sadly become an ego tiff for the nations....My heart goes out to the common people of Kashmir who want to get on with their lives and soldiers on both sides that die over nothing ! Sad and just sad

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John

Jul 25, 2016 10:40am

@lafanga Why doesn't Pakistan vacate AJK so that plebiscite can be held as per UN resolution?

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Waseem

Jul 25, 2016 02:23pm

Ignore and keep focus on CPEC!

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Muhammad

Jul 25, 2016 03:05pm

What an imperialistic statement by the Indian Government remember you cannot crush the will of people anymore

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wow

Jul 25, 2016 05:23pm

the interesting fact is that Kashmir does not want to be with India, whether they want to be independent or with pakistan, the fact is, they DON'T want to be part of India and India has never given them basic human and civil rights!

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Mumtaz

Jul 25, 2016 05:59pm

But we in Pakistan believe with the same intensity that Kashmir will become part of Pakistan. The people of Kashmir do not want to be a part of India. If that is not true then why Indian government is scared to hold plebiscite.

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Usman

Jul 25, 2016 06:09pm

Miss Sushma just give it a look that how many people in Azad Kashmir are against Pakistan and want to go with India ? I am sure no one, then why in Jammu and Kashmir people are protesting against you and you are doing heinous treatments to unarmed innocent kashmiris. We don't mind if Jammu and Kashmir itself wants to live with India but as they don't want to, so we will keep on supporting them until it becomes independent state or a part of Pakistan.

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ukz

Jul 25, 2016 09:44pm

the only solution to the problem is to de-millitarize the valley. give it under UN control and conduct a referendum with three options. 1. Pakistan 2. India 3. Independent country. whatever the outcome should be accepted by all.

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Global Citizen

Jul 26, 2016 12:49am

@Ahsan Gul What is the currency of Azad Kashmir?

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Dr pattal

Jul 26, 2016 01:36am

then make them autonomous so they may live with peace.

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eagle eye

Jul 26, 2016 02:38am

Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris. Modi should walk out of Kashmir with his forces. May be than India can be permanent member of security counsel, also part of the atomics supplier group.

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Budhoo

Jul 26, 2016 07:05am

@Syed Mansoor No Sir............It does not work so.

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Khan

Jul 26, 2016 09:36am

Let Kashmiris alone decide !

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Rajeev Nidumolu

Jul 26, 2016 10:59am

The State has received Rs.1.14 lakh crore in grants over sixteen years Jammu and Kashmir has received 10 per cent of all Central grants given to states over the 2000-2016 period, despite having only one per cent of the country’s population, analysis by The Hindu of Central and State finances shows. In contrast, Uttar Pradesh makes up about 13 per cent of the country’s population but received only 8.2 per cent of Central grants in 2000-16. That means J&K, with a population of 12.55 million according to the 2011 Census, received Rs.91,300 per person over the last sixteen years while Uttar Pradesh only received Rs.4,300 per person over the same period. Even among the special category states, Jammu and Kashmir receives a disproportionate amount of Central assistance.

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sid

Jul 26, 2016 12:10pm

Kashmir is a part of India and only Indians can decide what to do with it, one think has to be cleared that we are not going to leave our land so the solution is , you guys be happy with your country and we have that much resources to make our Kashmir happy.

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Ali

Jul 26, 2016 02:10pm

Hindustan must stop torturing Kashmiris. Be fair and give them independence. This foreign minister cannot speak on behalf of whole Hindustan. may be half of India wont agree with her. People protesting in Kashmir are kashmiris,, not terrorists of Pakistan trained militants. Please open your eyes India. Stop this killing. You dont need innocent blood on your hands. You are better than this.

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kart

Jul 26, 2016 02:39pm

To those baying for the plebiscite that Nehru unwittingly agreed to, In that agreement, there are preconditions for such a referendum: 1. Pakistan has to demilitarize from the region. 2. India has to demilitarize from the region. 3. Proportion of population has to be same as before. All of which would be difficult to achieve now. So status quo forever.

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