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Pakistan surprised by its inclusion in 34-nation military alliance

Updated Dec 16, 2015 11:53am


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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan found itself in the crosshairs of Middle Eastern politics on Tuesday as Saudi Arabia named it as part of its newly formed 34-nation military alliance of Muslim countries meant to combat terrorism, without first getting its consent.

Talking to journalists, Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry said he was surprised to read the news that Saudi Arabia had named Pakistan as part of the alliance.

He said he had asked the country’s ambassador in Riyadh to get a clarification from Saudi Arabia on the matter.

Know more: Pakistan part of 34-state Islamic military alliance against terrorism, says KSA

Another senior official also confirmed that Pakistan was not consulted before inclusion in the alliance.

In a statement on Tuesday, the Saudi government surprised many countries by announcing that it had forged a coalition for coordinating and supporting military operations against terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan. The headquarters of the new Saudi-led coalition would be based in Riyadh.

This is not the first time that Saudi Arabia has named Pakistan as part of its military alliances without Islamabad’s knowledge and consent. The Saudis earlier named Pakistan as part of the coalition that carried out operations in Yemen and a Pakistani flag was displayed at the alliance’s media centre.

Pakistan later declined to join the Yemen war.

It is Pakistani government’s policy that it will not deploy its troops outside the country’s borders except for UN peacekeeping missions.

In the past Pakistan has twice rejected US calls for joining alliances against the militant Islamic State (IS) group on the same pretext.

“We are not looking for any involvement outside our region,” army spokesman Lt Gen Asim Bajwa had said last month while replying to a question about the possibility of Pakistan becoming part of a US-led coalition against IS.

It is unclear how Riyadh went ahead with announcing Pakistan’s participation in the new alliance. It is also difficult to speculate if Islamabad will change its policy because of its close ties with the kingdom.

Pakistan, however, has counter-terrorism cooperation with Saudi Arabia.

The IS operations and activities across the Middle East have led to military responses executed by alliances that most of the time rival each other. Syria has been battling IS and other militants with the help of Iran and Russia.

The US, which is supporting groups trying to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, is meanwhile leading another alliance against IS.

Iran has led military efforts along with the Iraqi army and volunteers in the fight against IS in Iraq. The US-led alliance has been supporting the ground operations against IS with their air strikes.

Published in Dawn, December 16th, 2015


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Syed Hanif Dec 16, 2015 07:08am

PM is silence and will keep distance. He runs his own policy.

Ashfaq11 Dec 16, 2015 07:11am

Hahaha political compulsions forcing government to keep any military role under wraps

Zain Dec 16, 2015 07:15am

One can easily judge how unfair this coalition will be and there opperations.

aga khan Dec 16, 2015 07:17am

Coalition members do NOT even know that they are with them. Is it not a joke? So far they keep giving us some alms that alone should be enough for us? Sure looks like that.

Zahid Dec 16, 2015 07:18am

Give Saudis the same response as we chose for Yemen. No need to get involved unless approved by UN. Seems suspicious and another ploy to get Pakistan involved.

Hamid Dec 16, 2015 07:23am

Pakistan should join the coalition.

Zahid Dec 16, 2015 07:28am

BTW, why Indonesia got left out?

ali Dec 16, 2015 07:40am

This is an insult to Pakistan as they are assuming that they own it and do not even approach Pakistan to let them know what they are doing regarding this toothless alliance, they have picked up countries of their choice who can take dictation from them.Pakistan has a parliament which needs to consider pros and cons of this alliance and take steps which are best for the country.

MS Dec 16, 2015 07:41am

Come what may and who joins whose alliance, Pakistan should focus all of it's energy on defeating terrorism inside Pakistan and by defeating terrorism means not only militants, but also economic, political and white collar terrorism. There is nothing wrong in cooperation with the Saudis to achieve this objectives perhaps we should get some financial help from the Saudis to wipe out all forms of terrorism inside Pakistan. A militarily and economically strong Pakistan will be in a much better shape to help other countries .

Ahmed USA Dec 16, 2015 07:42am

Alliance is good to maintain peace in Middle East as well as in south Asian region... Combined they will have access to some 600 F16s, 250 F15s etc. ... Pakistan can sell JF-17s in hundreds along with other military hardware to the coalition of the willing...

natey Dec 16, 2015 07:44am

its just useless coalition..same like oic..there will never be any action so dont need to worry...saudi can never lead in war..iraq 1991 they needed usa..usa is using saudi kings for own business benefit..and these kings dont want the fighting of is come to saudi

Zak Dec 16, 2015 07:45am

No surprise at all, any coalition that needs victory needs Pakistan, hence no surprise, US ,China, EU,Russia , all want Pakistan on their side to ensure victory.

Reality Dec 16, 2015 07:47am

You need not to get consent when you have unlimited money

khan Dec 16, 2015 07:48am

pakistan should not deploy their forces outside pakistan. pakistan have borders with naughty countries and it is almost impossible to check borders completely.

taimoor khan Dec 16, 2015 07:48am

Without Pakistan Army their is no victory, with Pakistan Army their is no defeat ,hence KSA desperately wants Pakistan , so does the US

Imtiaz Faruqui Dec 16, 2015 07:53am

Pakistan should never join them, we have our own hands full, 50,000 Pakistanis have been killed in our own land. Stay away from the Arabs. Our interests and culture is completely different from the Arabs.

Pardesi Dec 16, 2015 08:01am

Stay out of it, friendly advice

Sajjad Ur Rehman Dec 16, 2015 08:05am

It shows how incompetent these Saudis are. They do not have any diplomatic sense. Oil is the only way for Saudis to have some standing in the world of nations, Once oil reservoirs dry out Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries will shatter. And its not long for oil reservoirs to diminish---30 to 40 years

Akbar Dec 16, 2015 08:08am

Saudi knows that the Right Price paid to the right individuals will take them through when it comes to Pakistan. So no permission or consultation of Pakistani authorities required.

Prof Abdul Malik Dec 16, 2015 08:21am

@Imtiaz Faruqui: You have very cogently and correctly put the case as to what is in Pakistan's best interest. I wholeheartedly support your stance on non-involvement in other people's awfully messy wars. Pakistan's first and foremost priority ought to be to put its own house in the best possible shape. Unfortunately we are far away from this goal.

javed Dec 16, 2015 08:22am

@taimoor khan hahaha why not pakistan officials says that thing u just make my day hahaha

Saqib Dec 16, 2015 08:22am

It shows what the Saudi's think about us.We do have enough trouble with the Arabs,time to politely tell them to mind their own business

fida Dec 16, 2015 08:23am

Pakistan Foreign Service timely response to Saudi arrogance should be appreciated by all the citizens of Pakistan. Pakistan has enough of there own problems on the western and eastern borders and remaining neutral in others conflicts is the maturity of the government.

Ali Dec 16, 2015 08:25am

Good. We don't want to be part of any proxy war or alliance be it Saudi, Iran or USA.

Zak Dec 16, 2015 08:27am

Saudi's need to get it togather. they need to realise, Pakistan's involvement is a serious business. Roping in Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Qatar etc the useless brigades is one thing, getting a regional power like Pakistan involved, is another thing.

Kalashnikov Dec 16, 2015 08:29am

@Zak certainly now the world can only agree after all

Baloch Dec 16, 2015 08:34am

he who pays the Piper plays the tune!

Taimur Khan Dec 16, 2015 08:34am

We should not jump to conclusions. KSA tends to take Pakistan for granted because of the very cordial relations in the past, and the fact that Pakistan's ready deployment of its forces inside KSA during the Iraq War. However, they do not seem to realize that the tides of time have changed. Pakistan's military stance became manifestly clear when our military and the government refused to participate in the Saudi led invasion of Yemen. Our declared stance and actions thus far should rest all doubts: Pakistan will wholeheartedly support KSA with its military power, in case KSA's own territorial integrity is threatened. Period.

Rama Eleswarapu Dec 16, 2015 08:41am

Pakistan should show some spine and decline such arrangements. Exclusion from Saudi alliance will hopefully diminish the corrosive fundamentalist forces in Pakistan. Peace with its immediate neighbours is the most critical need of Pakistan, not participation in a distant war.

Jawad U Rahman Dec 16, 2015 08:43am

Shows the respect our Saudi brothers have for us.

gul Dec 16, 2015 08:46am

Saudi Arabia should deal with Pakistan as equal. Pakistan's involvement in the coalition is taken for granted. Pakistan should distance itself from any military cooperation with Saudi Arabia. Pakistan has a lot of mess in the country to clean it up.

Changez_Khan Dec 16, 2015 08:56am

Pakistan should stay out of Arabs mess specially in Saudi Arabia's.

Abu-Salmaan Dec 16, 2015 08:56am

@Zain Any coalition to be formed should be led by Pakistan Army as they have the experience and ability to lead more effectively.

Ahmed Haneef Dec 16, 2015 08:59am

@Zahid ... even UN can not be trusted as they feel pain of killing of European and American more than people killed in other part of the world. For example a day before France event same ISIS detonated huge blast and killed more than 40 people in Lebanon and last Saturday and Sunday more than 1000 people opposing ISIS and Bokoharam killed in Nigeria cold blooded by Nigerian Army, UN has not condemned.

Morad786 Dec 16, 2015 09:05am

You never know what the Nawaz family and even the establishment has offered in their one to one personal meetings/ trips.

Morad786 Dec 16, 2015 09:05am

Pakistan should debate it in parliament.

Biryani Dec 16, 2015 09:07am

@Baloch : The correct proverb is: "He who pays the piper calls the tune."

Rohit Dec 16, 2015 09:07am

Saudi's need to get it togather. they need to realise, Pakistan's involvement is a serious business. Roping in Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Qatar etc the useless brigades is one thing, getting a regional power like Pakistan involved, is another thing.@Zak

Another Gem of a thought.....salute....

Azhar jamil Dec 16, 2015 09:07am

After all he is elder brother, helping the younger brother not only for decades but to some extent during the days of exile for someone with a special treat. Hence he has the right to do so.How can younger brother ask him about his wrongdoing?

Vertigo Dec 16, 2015 09:17am

Pakistan's major policy decisions are taken by people sitting in London ,Dubai or Washington . Can't blame the Saudis for going overboard without asking us at all

LALAT Dec 16, 2015 09:21am

@Zak I salute you, brother! your comments are the most humourous of all.

M.ASIF Dec 16, 2015 09:23am

Pakistan should stay away from the so called military alliance to combat terrorism in the Middle East. Its politics Arabian style. Pakistan single handedly fighting terrorism within its borders and surprisingly not a single islamic country offered assistance. Some arab countries are involved in financial assistance of militants in Pakistan while others are involved in proxy war within our borders creating serious problems for us. Over 50,000 innocent people killed and we are suffering huge material losses. Say hands off and dont treat us as your colony.

ABDULLAH KHAN Dec 16, 2015 09:23am

SA has blind trust on Pakistan because of their brotherhood relationships.

saqib uk Dec 16, 2015 09:26am

operation zarb e azb is not over yet. so kindly explain that our forces are already stretched. no doubt there will be another fiery tantrum from UAE etc

dawn Dec 16, 2015 09:31am

They aren't included. They have been suckered to keep the country in constant turmoil.

Faisal Bajwa Dec 16, 2015 09:32am

We could export our military services to offset our trade imbalance.

C.K. Dec 16, 2015 09:33am

Pakistan should give a royal snub saying that our's is a democracy and no such one sided decisions by Saudi would be binding on us.

Zee Dec 16, 2015 09:35am

The question is not IF Pakistan is in the coalition of forces against the ISIS, the question is what would Pakistan get out of it. Although Pakistan is has counter-terrorism cooperation with Saudi Arabia but CT OPs mostly incorporates the practice, military tactics, techniques, and strategy that government, military, law enforcement, business, and intelligence agencies use to combat or prevent terrorism but getting involved with using an active and regular Pakistani Armed Forces not under the umbrella of UN is a dangerous and can have long lasting implications on the region specially on Pakistan. Pakistan still did not come out of the grip of nasty effects of terrorism. Pakistan has its hands full and Pakistani forces are actively combating the terrorist. Using Pakistani Armed Forces outside the border of Pakistan without informing and prior permission is undermining Pakistan and its forces. We are not mercenaries, neither we take orders from any country for its own agenda.

Eli Dec 16, 2015 09:36am

No harm in providing expertise, advice and training to the alliance to combat terrorism, but should never send its troops, or be an active part of an alliance that from the outset looks suspicious in its objectives and designs

Ali Gohar Dec 16, 2015 09:39am

Pakistan army is not for sale.

Padmakar Dec 16, 2015 09:40am

@Zak Funny comments bro..

Khwarezmi Dec 16, 2015 09:40am

"It is Pakistani government’s policy that it will not deploy its troops outside the country’s borders except for UN peacekeeping missions."

Pakistan should take a look at this policy after the TTP and terrorists in Karachi is dealt with. Pakistan has even today the capability to provide a nuclear umbrella to friendly states: I am sure this is the future security arrangement for Muslim countries once American wars and Daish is settled.

citizen Dec 16, 2015 09:47am

@Zak best statements of dawn are written by u alone.its a gift to see silver lineings in dark clouds but to see silver itself in clouds is amusing.

Murtaza Dec 16, 2015 09:50am

Pakistan should not join this coalition and Pak should seek explanation from Saudis as to why the have named Pak without its consent

Hamid shafiq Dec 16, 2015 09:53am

Pakistan should away this force which do nothing for Muslims and Islamic world and our soldiers work as rented men.

Syed Dec 16, 2015 09:53am

@C.K. Wonder who this Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry reports to or the statement made is coming from - Pakistan doesn't have an official Foreign Minister :)

janzr Dec 16, 2015 09:54am

Don't get involved in any way...solve your own problems first.... This is yet another trap to further enhance Suffering of the nation... It would have been better not to even join UN forces...

M Dec 16, 2015 09:56am

Pakistan must send a signal that it cannot be taken for granted any more.

N H RANA Dec 16, 2015 10:01am

Who the hell these arrogants think they are.

Jalbani Baloch Dec 16, 2015 10:02am

Pakistan must not be part of any alliance on whatsoever grounds to combat terrorism, while bearing in mind that terrorism is an internal threat and not external. Therefore, each country, which is affected by terrorism should find the causes of terrorism and adopt curative measures accordingly. The GCC countries do not have strong deterrence to withstand with the onslaught of terrorism, therefore, they are trying to implicate other countries to safeguard their monarchies against the possible dangers posed by the terrorists. Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state and it must not join any force or alliance beyond its borders, except sparing forces for UN peacekeeping missions, as rightly pointed by foreign office and military spokesman.

deven Dec 16, 2015 10:04am

@Zak Ha Ha. Good joke.

Atiq Dec 16, 2015 10:13am

If we don't fight this menace of ISIS and extremism now,our children will suffer dearly and overseas pakistani already paying a price of this extremism problem, that we have been trying to keep it under the rug.Its for the survival of all muslims and peace loving nation.

Usama Munir Dec 16, 2015 10:13am

Just like Saudi forces always come to help us in Kashmir without our invitation

Muhammad Usman Dec 16, 2015 10:13am

Pakistan should join this. It is first ever Muslims collations.

Asim Rizvi Dec 16, 2015 10:14am

@Zak seriously?

Abdulla Hussain Dec 16, 2015 10:21am

There should be a larger military alliance between Muslim countries, they should develop their own arms industries no harm in it, however it should be planned in a way that all burdan to fight terrorism should not be thrown on the shoulders of Muslim countries alone. You run your weapon industries & we continue to consume it should not be the central idea. Iran should also be engaged in a fruitful peace talk. The more division the Muslims have the easier prey they become.

Saleem Dec 16, 2015 10:25am

Pakistan should root out terrorists in own territory. Middle east turmoil is a result of failed policies of arrogant nations. Pakistan shall stay away this dirty conflict.

Rafay Dec 16, 2015 10:28am

Pakistan should pay card according to its own policies and desires and shouldn't involve in any trouble just because of keeping and maintaining good relations with someone. Pakistan has been facing consequences of US-based Afghan war. It was never be the war of Pakistan. But Pakistan was dragged in, I don't know why, with some compulsion or vested interest but whatever was the reason, the outcome was very bad for Pakistan. So, this time be carefull before involving in any proxy war.

Zain Dec 16, 2015 10:30am

A cover-up service by foreign office. The approval was given way before back in September and October.

Baaligh Dec 16, 2015 10:31am

?The Saudis earlier named Pakistan as part of the coalition that carried out operations in Yemen and a Pakistani flag was displayed at the alliance’s media centre". Saudis have dared to include Pakistan's name again -for the second time - because our rulers did not rebuke them when they did so earlier -for the first time. The Saudis have become so very arrogant and intoxicated that they consider / treat all Muslim countries and rulers as their sub-ordinates. They thus don't find it necessary to even discuss let alone obtain prior consent.

murshid Dec 16, 2015 10:37am

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

waft Dec 16, 2015 10:40am

@Eli Good comment. That's a sound strategy. And make them pay through the nose for it :).

peer Dec 16, 2015 10:41am

Moment of truth for Pakistan. IsIs threat is real and spreading fast like a deadly virus. If Pakistan plays a leadership role in the Muslim's coalition force, the whole world will engage, support and root for it.

Abdul Munaff Dec 16, 2015 10:43am

Alas; Pakistanis are not ruling Pakistan. We don't have the right to protect our rare birds, we don't have the right to fight our own wars. We are dragged into some others wars and the loss is ours while benefit to them. We shamelessly talk about our national integrity and sovereignty which we don't have at present.

Chachajee Dec 16, 2015 10:47am

Something else for the press and something totally different amongst the key players. PM is a smart guy taking everyone for a ride.

MARXIST Dec 16, 2015 10:52am

Pakistan should never get involved in the mess created by Ignorant SAUDIS !!!!!! My Vote is BIG NO !!!!!!!!!

kkk Dec 16, 2015 11:40am

@Sajjad Ur Rehman pub point agreed . All these arb nation are standing on the Foundationin Of crude oil wealth. Once these receourses dried in near future may be after 70 years then see they would be below rhird world countries as even drinkable water is not availavle in these desert arb countries

Manzoor Zaidi Dec 16, 2015 11:46am

No never Pakistan joined the 34 bitter countries, on & off they bit each other and fight, but never ever they joint struggle for Al-Qudus Palestian, first GCC countries help with Pakistan destroyed Afghanistan, than GCC destroyed Iraq, than Libiya now Syria and Yemen, this is not Islamic coaliation of 34 countries. Pakistan Army is not missionery army to fight for Money is respectable and best army keep away from this junta of fighter and kill each other. Sorry GCC Pakistan will not join to kill muslim brothers in Syria and Yemen. NO NO

Shaban Dec 16, 2015 11:46am

@Saqib great idea

Ahmer Dec 16, 2015 12:05pm

@Hamid It's arrogance on part of the Saudis. They think they own the world and the world owes them back. Pakistan should not join any of these forces. We got our own fish to fry.

AKKS Dec 16, 2015 12:07pm

@taimoor khan I think you did not get the point here.The inclusion of Pakistan in the alliance without its knowledge means there is no respect whatsoever from Saudi Arabia!

Sonny Afridi Dec 16, 2015 12:35pm

Nobody is on the same page here. We made it clear we won't involve ourselves in matters that divide the Unmah. Turkey supported the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt which UAE and KSA ardently opposed. It's all cosmetic and nothing else and I don't appreciate saudi "royals" mention of our name when we agreed to nothing of the sort. When Iran and Saudi set aside their school boy behavior and use of proxies this'll be one step closer to attaining normalcy. Only Israel gains from all of this.

Sonny Afridi Dec 16, 2015 12:35pm

@Ashfaq11 wrong. Military itself wants nothing to do with Arab civil wars

Sultan Alvi, Toronto, Canada Dec 16, 2015 12:36pm

@ali : You are very funny ...'Pakistan has a parliament which needs to consider pros and cons of this alliance and take steps which are best for the country.' Do we have a Parliament????

The other side Dec 16, 2015 12:42pm

Most of the ppl giving their comments here may not be mature enough to understand what the world is coming up to and what is Pakistan's role in it but still I suggest all of you to go and read the history about the numerous ocassions where Saudi Arabia and other GCC countries has helped Pakistan, be it money, artillery, oil, cheap petrol or foreign remittances.

I am not saying Pakistan has done nothing in return but our political leadership is in no position to come face to face with Saudi Arabia specially after enjoying the luxurious exile period from which they have returned recently. I am not sure why ppl have such short term memory loss issue

Saudi Arabia only named Pakistan being part of a Anti Terrorist alliance, which every Islamic country should be given the current threats to this religion in the name of ISIS and other military wings established only to defame Islam and its followers.

Its high time for all of us to start looking at the broader picture.

MA Shah Dec 16, 2015 12:51pm

Has Pakistan not yet learnt lesson from Afghan war? we are still facing consequences that had made our country hell. Pakistan should only join that muslim military alliance in case there is no element of aggression from a Muslim country and only purpose is to maintain law and order as peace keeper.

calypso Dec 16, 2015 12:53pm

SA believes to be the king of the world. Pakistan should keep believing in its own policies. Not joining SA in the massacre of Yemenis was correct. It is no reason to Change the policy now. An alliance against terrorists is a good step, but an alliance needs an Agenda and a clear set of objectives. The role of each participating Country should be exactly defined and accepted by this Country. Pakistani soldiers are neither slaves of SA-Monarchs, nor paid mercenaries.

raja Dec 16, 2015 12:56pm

The problem with having two leaders. One doesn't know what the other is doing!

Safdar Dec 16, 2015 01:00pm

I think it is also some sort of signaling from the Saudi government. They want to test our waters again on this issue i.e. What our stance is on being included in their war. It may build up into something big later on, in the form of a sweeping decision (hopefully not) against Pakistani workforce or some other ramifications...

rabia Dec 16, 2015 01:08pm

Like the war on terror Pakistan Army now wins a chance to fight with these coalition forces. Hence proved Pakistan Army is the best to fight under any circumstances.

Khan Dec 16, 2015 01:14pm

Foreign office has to make such statements because our government does not speak the truth

MOIN KHAN Dec 16, 2015 01:23pm

Pervaiz Dec 16, 2015 01:38pm

they take us for granted as the oil beneficiaries courty

Salman Dasti Dec 16, 2015 01:54pm

Excellent Move. keep away from the chaos of middle East focus on our country and region.

NationFirst Dec 16, 2015 02:16pm

An excuse to drag Pakistan into middle eastern conflict which is already quite complex with involvement of Russia & NATO. AVOID At all costs.

Sadary Dec 16, 2015 02:32pm

Pakistan takes money without asking so now pay the price

Saeed Masood Dec 16, 2015 02:41pm

Pakistan army is not for rent...we have enough of our own problems...we should focus on that...

Zubair Nawaz Dec 16, 2015 02:41pm

They politically support and do business with our enemies but want our boys to die for them. Have they ever supported us on Kashmir issue. The government should have courage and tell them clearly to take care of their self created problems.

m.aslam Dec 16, 2015 03:15pm

Pakistan needs to focus in its own matters, strengthen peace across provinces, boost economy, pay attention to fast development of macroeconomic policies and watch china-pak corridor.

Rajesh Dec 16, 2015 03:21pm

It's high time Pakistan realises that they have been made use off and most of the problems in Pakistan is because of the closeness to Saudi Arabia....

Khalid Dec 16, 2015 03:26pm

Pakistan is "not in any alliance with House of Saud" and should not "tolerate" such "announcements claimed by house of Saud"

SBK Dec 16, 2015 03:29pm

"Saudi Arabia has named Pakistan as part of its military alliances without Islamabad’s knowledge and consent". Because they are both best friends.

SBK Dec 16, 2015 03:30pm

@Zahid , Because Indonesia is a secular country.

SMK Dec 16, 2015 03:31pm

NS must have given the approval to SA. Now he is covering it up through foreign secretary's statement to avoid backlash at home and in neighborhood.

SBK Dec 16, 2015 03:32pm

@Zak , Yes, Pakistan has the best army and it should lead the 34-nation military alliance.

yamtahira Dec 16, 2015 03:36pm

Pakistan should get away from the Coalition with Saudi kingdom and Turkey .Both Countries sponsoring ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

Saqib Dec 16, 2015 03:38pm

@ABDULLAH KHAN I never felt that brotherhood during my interaction with them,it sounds more like a master vs slave relationship

yamtahira Dec 16, 2015 03:55pm

@SBK Pakistan knows well Turkey and Saudi Arab oil states sponsored ISIS in other region.

Kamal Pasha Dec 16, 2015 04:04pm

The organisers of the alliance to fight terrorism are the financiers of the extremists in the Muslim countries.

K Dec 16, 2015 04:06pm

Foreign Ministry should ask PM office instead

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 04:14pm

This is nothing but arrogance from Saudi Arabia. They think Pakistan and Pakistani Army are their SLAVES!! and they can dictate us whatever they want!!

Dr Khurshid Alam Dec 16, 2015 04:19pm

It is quite expected as far as I am concerned. Having worked there as a consultant in a university hospital, this is exactly what they think of us. They know more our weakness than we know theirs.

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 04:26pm

Really!! How can a country claim to create an alliance against "terrorists" who they themselves created and nurtured? Is this absurd or what?

M. Asghar Dec 16, 2015 04:30pm

It is incomprehensible that SA which has been and is the source of most the extremism in the region, is now forming this so-called anti-terrorism coalition.

Goga Nalaik Dec 16, 2015 04:33pm

Pakistan must not be part of this coalition

Haider Dec 16, 2015 04:35pm

Pakistan should be a part of it.

Azhar Malik Dec 16, 2015 04:37pm

Pakistan is running its foreign policy and relations very sensibly and in dignified manner. It successfully and gracefully handled the Yemen crisis by keeping supreme the national interest and skillfully handled the sensitive situation even though it has very special and peculiar relations with KSA.

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 04:45pm

@Azhar Malik agree with sensible but dignified not sure. It will be dignified when we clearly tell them "stop treating us as slaves".

xpakistani Dec 16, 2015 04:46pm

Saudi Arabians and the Gulf countries are not to be trusted. They are playing the Islamic card and everyone knows the treatment that common workers get in their countries. They are making a fun of Islamic principles and tenets when providing livelihood to poor foreign workers.

ignorance is blessing Dec 16, 2015 04:54pm

@Hamid Question here is not whether we should join this coalition or not.... question here is how on earth they can include Pakistan's name in it without even asking?

Taimoor Khan Dec 16, 2015 04:56pm

Send this issue for debate in our parliament and they will reject it. Thanks but no thanks, Middle east is not our problem , we are not interested, we are occupied clearing mess in our home at the moment, created by both militants and corrupt ruling elite.

Adnan Dec 16, 2015 04:56pm

Every country treats us with disrespect. How can they just assume we will join?? This operation will call for Pakistani ground troops and there'll be huge casualties for Pakistan. I hope our foolish leaders realize that.

M.Saeed Dec 16, 2015 05:02pm

Dividing efforts between several groups would simply divide their effective force and would make the initiative more of a competitive display for superiority between the fighting forces than downing the common enemy.

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 05:04pm

Talking about Master and slave relationship. Just ask any Pakistani working in Saudi Arabia about how are they treated there? It is so sad to hear their stories.

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 05:07pm

@ignorance is blessing can't agree more!! It's not about joining or not. It's simply about our dignity and Saudi's Arrogant attitude towards us!!

M.Saeed Dec 16, 2015 05:09pm

It is just possible that the Saudis had already talked and got a nod from the PM.

AA Dec 16, 2015 05:16pm

Saudis think we are their slaves...

dawn Dec 16, 2015 05:18pm

Now the violence in Pakistan will continue.

Shahzad S Iqbal Dec 16, 2015 05:19pm

I wonder why the Foreign Secretary had to issue this thoughtless statement and why this matter was not handled discreetly. Saudi Arabia has been and will stay as a long term strategic partner of Pakistan and there should be no qualms about that in anyone's mind and hence relations with that country need to be handled with a lot of care. Thoughtless knee jerk reactions must be avoided at all costs.

Saqib Dec 16, 2015 05:21pm

The idea to make an alliance is not bad ,the way it is executed is disappointing .In its current form it looks more like anti Iran,for that reason, Iran should be included in it along with all other relevant countries.Saudi Arabia is not competent to lead it,it should either be Turkey or Pakistan.We should also tell Saudi's to consult all the parties concerned before they make these kind of deliberation and to make a well thought out plan .

Mutahir Dec 16, 2015 05:22pm

@M.Saeed that would be worst than Saudi not asking. Imagine PM agreed without anyone else knowing including army!! That would be a real problem!!

M.Saeed Dec 16, 2015 05:28pm

@Shahzad S Iqbal : Absolutely right. There is something called state secrets and everybody in the Government and the leadership appears hell-bent to become security risk much ahead of others.

fas Dec 16, 2015 05:36pm

Muslims shouldn't be divided and shouldn't be part of any alliance. Even Pakistan has to lead to unite all muslims countries

khan Dec 16, 2015 05:37pm

Saudi takes consent from the military, which truly rules.

Mustafa US Dec 16, 2015 05:42pm

@Kamal Pasha Well said - this is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Ayaz Messam Dec 16, 2015 05:51pm

Saudi & their Arab allies fight in Syria, Iraq, Libya , Afghanistan & Yemen but when this block is attacking Israel since Muslims' first priority issue is PALESTINE.! When saudi & arabs will threat israel to free Palestine?

Ayaz Messam Dec 16, 2015 05:52pm

@Abu-Salmaan my question is...when this block is attacking Israel since Muslims' first priority issue is PALESTINE.!??

Anwar Saeed. USA Dec 16, 2015 05:56pm

Pakistan should not involve in this coalition against IS. This newly formed 34 nations military alliance of so called Muslim countries will not work. Pakistan must solve its home grown problems first before joining and venture.

Ayub Dec 16, 2015 05:58pm

What a surprise that the Foreign Secretary is not aware of such an important decision and ask our Ambassador in Riyadh to find the fact.

Deoband Dec 16, 2015 06:07pm

Your Royal Highness King of Saudia,

We are extremely grateful for being included in this esteemed group without our permission. We also appreciate your tireless efforts in creating and funding the extremist groups in the Islamic world. We can never thank you enough for your deep commitment to divide the Muslim community along sectarian lines.

Last but not the least, we are thankful for your efforts in stoning to death poor Pakistanis that are being used by rich Sheikhs to smuggle drugs into your country.

We are proud and honored to be part of this esteemed coalition without our knowledge. Going forward, please feel free to include us in any wars in the Middle East and hoist our proud flag as you see fit.

Ever gratefully, Our Clueless Leaders

ss Dec 16, 2015 06:09pm

Clearly, committments have been made of which people have not been informed.

Sam Dec 16, 2015 06:19pm

Pakistani soldiers to the front lines, while Saudi's/Arabs sit in air conditioned rooms. This is the reality.

Pervez Dec 16, 2015 06:22pm

The Saudis , first must define, what action they wish to take. Why is Iran excluded out of it? Is it not an islamic country? Is it Sunni alliance only? If it is than whomis the enemy? Never knew the new leadership could be so juvenile. ... Some sense has to knocked into them.

Akhter Dec 16, 2015 06:24pm

ISIS doesn't just exist in Syria, Iraq or Afghanistan -- it has major constituency supporters in almost all Arab countries, including Saudi, Kuwait, Lebanon and Jordan. So they want to really minimize the risks, Saudis & Qatar are themselves responsible for extremism in Islamic countries.

SBK Dec 16, 2015 06:42pm

Pakistan knows well that ISIS is the creation of Saudi Arabia and Turkey to play in Iraq and in Syria.

ansar Dec 16, 2015 06:42pm

There needs to be a muslim response to terrorism and destruction of our lands.

There needs to be a global alliance of muslim states and if anyone disagrees they are very stupid but include Iran and Saudi can not run it on their own but need to be exactly what it is an Alliance of equals.

This is required and anyone thinking otherwise is stupid but how it is enforced needs to be good too and must work with the SCO to create a balance in the region and fill a major vacuum.

gul Dec 16, 2015 06:58pm

@M.ASIF Well said!

ASHFAQ Dec 16, 2015 07:08pm

We are already fightting a war against these terrorosts, every body know who nurtured , financed and supported them in the Past.Pakistan is fighting its own war and thanks God our Army has been able to curb this menace solely.We never asked any outsieder force to fight for us rather we kept on requesting not to fuel the fires of sectarian rifts and sponsoring those extremists. This war is to be fought individually, not to use a magic wand disguised as scapegoats...from 34 countries..the core being Pak Army.The real motive here is not to bridge the gapes and differences, rather its meant to act against those who fight real terrorism. Be ware of the plots of Enemy, you have your own enough deals to accomplish.Involving in an external rift wont help Pakistan for stability, it will serve as a catalyst to intensify agony and sectarian rifts

Masood Husssain Dec 16, 2015 07:10pm

Pakistan is being taken for granted to back the Saudi policies.

umair m Dec 16, 2015 07:12pm

Another joke. Pakistan needs to stay away from saudis and their intl alliance of terrorists including West/US supported groups.

logic Dec 16, 2015 07:19pm

@Zahid don't forget that S Arabia is providing billions of dollars to us..

Daood Dec 16, 2015 07:21pm

Pakistan don't want to be part of any alliance where they do operations like Yemen.

Pakistani Dec 16, 2015 07:23pm

It is good step and Pakistan should play a role but this alliance should define and clarify it's policy and scope and this alliance should not be serving interests of external powers and/or monarchy. But should play a role to bring justice and then peace. A wishful thought. Nato is also an alliance and it's time to create similar power to take back control BUT with the intention of serving people and establishing justice. One questions to ask though, are our leaders ready to give up their comfortable and luxuries life?

Robin Akbar Dec 16, 2015 07:40pm

Pakistan is a part of this coalition with Pakistan consent but they want to confuse Pakistani public with statements like these . Why not PM or Military chief say something to clear the matter. This is Pakistan Govt. policy.

KRS Dec 16, 2015 08:29pm

its a joke...that's what it is.....Pakistan should say thanks but no thanks to KSA....when your own house is burning you shouldn't be focussing to save your neighbours'...that too KSA.....Pakistan should keep as much distance from this as possible.....We have our own problems but this isnt one of them...

Isra Dec 16, 2015 09:08pm

Tuff task for the Ambassador in Riyadh ! He will need lot of guts and courage !

Ahmed Haneef Dec 16, 2015 09:27pm

Americans are very happy on this achievement by the house of Saud. Oman, Algeria, Indonesia are not included in this alliance and a lot of other countries. Palestine and Pakistan included without telling them.

MUHAMMAD Furqan Ijaz Dec 16, 2015 11:04pm

Zionists are pushing to Muslim Ummah in confrontation with each other for greater Isreal which engulf all of Ummah. ISIL is MOSAAD sponsored terrorist organization. KSA must include Russia, Iran and China for real alliance.

A Saboor Dec 16, 2015 11:49pm

KSA will win this war either Pakistan join them or not! But it would be better to be done.

Star Dec 17, 2015 03:33am

Selection might be on the basis of aid to the Nations!

papuni Dec 17, 2015 04:01am

alliance for the peace strong economie yes...but allience for war NO NO NO

Tariq Mohammad Dec 17, 2015 04:29am

Pakistan should not take part in any such alliance. Our country is composed of Sunni, Shia, Christians,Aga Khanis, Hindu, Bhohri and other communities who live together and we are neighbours. This is their problem and let them solve it. All above communities are in Armed forces, police, government ministries etc. etc. We don't want to differentiate Pakistanis according to their personal believes and make this beautiful country like Iraq which is now divided on the basis of believe system.

ali Zahid Nizami Dec 17, 2015 07:50am

It's a true v as a Muslims have tied with Saudi Arabia in a solid religious as well as spiritual relation bt as nation we have our own integrity and unique status in Muslim ummah.Pakistan must be on board but be consulted on such serious Islamic issue. Although Islamabad and Riddyh has strong ties at each level but being an atomic power pak has sm extra responsibilities to keep the Muslims united not separate them.

M. Shabaz Dec 17, 2015 09:46am

Strongly condemn the inclusion of Pakistan in this sectarianism based group which will create more chaos in the Muslim countries. The sectarianism based proxy wars are already destroyed Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

FR Dec 17, 2015 10:06am

Mr. Spokesman, I am surprised at your ignorance why is you PM or COAS not sayin anything.

Komal S Dec 17, 2015 11:27am

@taimoor khan and hence Saudi Arabia decided to include Pakistan even without consulting the mighty Pakistan. Is that the way it works? The powerful gets included even without consulting.

tapish Dec 17, 2015 11:34am

India should have been invited to join the coalition.Afterall it has the worlds largest population of muslims.

Sikandar Dec 17, 2015 12:37pm

The best way to hit ISIS is by supporting Bashar al Asad, rather than Saudi alliance. I don't see any practicality in this alliance, its result will be more sectarian violence through out muslim world. Middle east badly need balance of power.

hassan Dec 17, 2015 03:03pm

IT depens on Army chief how will react. Our Govt is neither in 3 or in 1. They only know how earn money.

rehan Dec 17, 2015 03:27pm

pakistan has not been consulted!!! ... are we slaves of middle east ?...quite sad..

Wahid Dec 17, 2015 04:46pm

Before creating or being part of such military alliance, it is a necessity to activate oic by way of free trade agreement between all such countries.

All countries concerned must cooperate completely on economics, science & technology.

Only then will such alliance have value.

Fayaz Dec 17, 2015 05:07pm

I think Saudis should hire Pakistani youth in their armed forces. In this way, they can built a strong fighting force and Pakistan's problem of un-employment will be addressed.

US CENTCOM Dec 17, 2015 06:53pm

U.S. Secretary of Defense, Ash Carter welcomed the idea of the 34– state Islamic Alliance against terrorism. During the announcement by Saudi Arabia to form this 34-state Islamic alliance Secretary Carter welcomed the initiative and said that it “appears to be very much aligned with something that we have been urging for quite some time, which is greater involvement by Sunni-Arab countries in the campaign to combat ISIL.”

He added that a Saudi-led coalition in the region would have the ability “to promote what we know is necessary in the long run for the defeat of ISIL in Iraq and in Syria. And in the long run defeating terrorism in the region would require “replacement of their [Daesh’s] tyrannical rule with local rule that gives a decent life back to people.”

If we want to put an end to Daesh, we need to have more global cooperation.

Ali Khan Digital Engagement Team, US CENTCOM

abdullah Dec 17, 2015 07:49pm

Best thing for Pakistan...

Vivek Dec 17, 2015 07:51pm

You see, developed nations including US, India, Japan, Indonesia are all out of this, because they know their is no motive of doing this alition. So basically, it's just like a Whatsapp group to do nothing.

Dr.Arshad Dec 17, 2015 07:57pm

Pakistan must keep a distance. Decadent Middle Eastern monarchies are struggling hard to survive . Pakistan shouldn't become their sidekick.

frkh Dec 17, 2015 09:28pm

Pakistan should not get involved in Arab wars. These are unjust wars.

fawad Dec 17, 2015 09:42pm

Too bad Pakistan is stuck with bad leadership. If we had a true leader we could be LEADING the muslim nations in fights against terrorists which include the IS,

kush Dec 18, 2015 02:18am

@Zak nice.

Zeeshan Dec 18, 2015 10:12am

Pakistan should join if it wants to, not by coercion.

Naqvi Dec 18, 2015 12:25pm

This is rediculous, Saudian kingdom didnt even bother to inform pakistan about inclusion in alliance which is created accordingto will of AmericaAnd isreal

Hussain Dec 18, 2015 12:43pm

Very Good !

KAZIM REZA Dec 18, 2015 05:44pm

Pakistan carries same view on combating terrorism under the present administration. A constructive and wise decision.

Mekal Faruki Dec 18, 2015 08:10pm

Inclusion in "alliance" in Afghanistan, how did that work out? 60,000 Pakistani civilians paid the price for America's war with Russia. I hope Pakistanis are not so stupid as to paint a target on themselves again.

Abbas Dec 18, 2015 08:46pm

@ABDULLAH KHAN Saudi Arabia has blind trust on Indoenesia, Malaysia, Egypt and 32 other countries as well except Iran who is not included because they are helping Syria, Hizbollah and Hamas against Israel

ahmad Dec 19, 2015 01:07am

Though I have no problem in Pakistan being part of the coalition against the terror, i believe that Pakistan must get itself in order first. We have domestic terrorism and corruption all around the country. How can we go and fix everyone else's issues and keep on getting used and abused by other countries is beyond any comprehension. We need to eradicate terrorism and extremism first in Pakistan and make sure that all minorities and sects are treated with respect. It is time that we start looking more inwards and start addressing our own issues.