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Rajnath leaves Saarc meeting abruptly amid bitterness

Updated Aug 05, 2016 07:43am


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ISLAMABAD: Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh leaves the venue of the Saarc meeting.—INP
ISLAMABAD: Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh leaves the venue of the Saarc meeting.—INP

ISLAMABAD: Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh on Thursday left the South Asian Association for Regional Coop­eration (Saarc) Interior Minis­ters’ meeting halfway through after losing a war of words with his Pakistani counterpart Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan.

The Indian minister indirectly accused Pakistan of sponsoring terrorism. But when Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan responded — after relinquishing his position as the chairman of the meeting — Mr Singh found it difficult to digest.

Chaudhry Nisar called for respecting the fundamental rights of people and stressed that legitimate freedom struggles should not be suppressed in the name of the fight against terrorism. He called upon the countries from the region to differentiate between terrorism and freedom movements, sanctified by the UN Security Council, and observed that violence against freedom fighters in a disputed territory under Indian occupation was state-sponsored.

He highlighted how Pakistan itself was one of the biggest victims of terrorism. “Instead of engaging in a blame-game and taking swipes at each other, we should take time out to reflect and sit together to try and work out the problems and reservations that we might harbour towards each other,” he remarked.

Nisar takes offence at remarks against Pakistan

It was not Pakistan that closed its doors to talks, he said. “Pakistan is ready to engage in any dialogue process based on mutual respect and dignity with no strings attached. It is for those who have put conditions and sub-conditions for initiating dialogue to reconsider and realign their position.”

He said that unlike India’s claims, terrorist activities were not restricted to India, Afghanistan or Bangladesh. Scores of terrorist attacks had taken place in Pakistan and were equally condemnable, if not more so, he observed, specifically mentioning the attacks on Army Public School in Peshawar, the Bacha Khan University in Charsadda and the Gulshan-i-Iqbal Park in Lahore. Such incidents, he said, could not be ignored and the perpetrators of these attacks must be apprehended and brought to justice.

The interior minister’s remarks came at a time when tensions are running high between the two nuclear-armed neighbours over fresh unrest and killings by security forces in India-held Kashmir. His remarks rendered Mr Singh speechless and he chose not to respond.

The strains in relations were evident when Chaudhry Nisar and Mr Singh came across each other for the first time. The interior minister was receiving the guests at the entrance to the conference’s venue when the Indian minister arrived; the two did not even shake hands properly.

Addressing the meeting, the Indian minister called for tough action against terrorism and countries supporting it. “Terrorists should not be glorified as ‘martyrs’. There is no good or bad terrorism. Terrorism is terrorism,” he maintained.

Both men skipped the luncheon arranged for ministers and participants of the Saarc meeting. Speaking at a press conference later, Chaudhry Nisar said he had received a message from the Indian minister asking whether he (Nisar) would be coming to the lunch. The interior minister said he excused himself as he had to attend an important meeting at Prime Minister House.

Rajnath Singh, however, did not stick around longer and left the venue without attending the final session of the conference.

Chaudhry Nisar observed that equating the movement for Kashmir’s liberation with terrorism was ‘dishonesty with history’. He felt that Saarc countries could not be hostage to a certain country’s agenda.

“If somebody refers to some specific dates and incidents, [we have] the right to come up with our own assessment of blatant foreign intervention and the influx of terrorism in Pakistan from across the border.”

Meanwhile, Saarc ministers condemned terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, calling for collective efforts to fight this menace and emphasised that terrorists should not escape prosecution.

The meeting highlighted the need for identifying practical solutions to challenges such as cybercrime and transnational organised crime, to ensure safety and security for socioeconomic growth and provide a secure future for the youth, women and children.

The meeting called for strengthening Saarc regional conventions on suppression of terrorism and the additional protocol on mutual assistance in criminal matters and on drugs and psychotropic substances.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who was the chief guest at the inaugural session of the conference, said that at the national level, remarkable gains had been made against terrorists through Operation Zarb-i-Azb and the National Action Plan.

Published in Dawn, August 5th, 2016


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Reality_ Truth Aug 05, 2016 07:42am

The guest had every reason to do this. Remember President Musharaff did the same during Agra summitt

critic Aug 05, 2016 07:44am

Good. Let's fight (political only) . Once exhausted, it will be easy to sit and talk.

ART KP Aug 05, 2016 07:45am

India has to move forward from finger pointing, blackmailing and start finding solution to the problems face by the region.

Rao Aug 05, 2016 07:46am

I think best solution after considering hot tempers now is 1) Stop all talks for 10 years and focous on economy. 2)any attempt in any form of terror support gets counter from other stop games,

Moby Aug 05, 2016 07:47am

Childish reaction from Indian Minister? or was it part of recent series of deliberate attempts by India to break dialogue with Pakistan.

Nice Aug 05, 2016 07:49am

Time has changed. Except each other and move forward.

Amit Sharma Aug 05, 2016 07:56am

As an Indian, I am ashamed to be represented by Mr. Rajnath. India can do better than this guy for sure. Thank you.

Hunter-gatherer Aug 05, 2016 07:57am

I'm not a fan of PML-N government. But have highest respect for Ch Nisar. He said very nicely what Indian friends didn't want to hear. Very well done Ch Nisar.

wellwisher Aug 05, 2016 08:02am

SAARC is a useless forum, must be disbanded.

Bharat Aug 05, 2016 08:06am

The USA with much better information, is saying the same thing

Genesis Aug 05, 2016 08:06am

Having lived for over seven decades since partition neither India nor Pakistan have come to a common platform for is best affairs are left status quo and hopefully they will be resolved in the future.if the Kashmir issue is buried for now both nations can make remarkable progress

Mian Amir Hakim Aug 05, 2016 08:09am

Mr. Nisar has rightly brought forward Pakistan's position on regional issues. The laxity of previous governments including that of the Musharraf's strengthened India's stance on Kashmir. India should know and acknowledge that terrorism is terrorism whether it is in India or elsewhere. We must learn to sit down with a cool mind to resolve differences. Such attitude by Indian junior home minister is deplorable..

noob Aug 05, 2016 08:12am

Both sides throwing dust into the eyes of lay men. Just in the snap of a finger this thing could be resolved but much is on stakes; Money, Elections, Ranks, Plots, and a little bit of personal honour. A dirty game to play over the dead bodies of dead children and mothers. It is all clichéd. History is brimming with examples of such tricks played by both sides.

Amin Daha Aug 05, 2016 08:13am

Well done Chaudhry Nisar.

Get Real Aug 05, 2016 08:14am

Nothing will change. SAARC is a waste of time. Just sipping tea and making useless speeches.

Expat Aug 05, 2016 08:20am

Yes, Pakistan is going through a tough phase but doesn't mean that arrogance and one sided mind track of Indian Interior minister should hijack the conference. Great reply Ch. Nisar !!!

Amit Aug 05, 2016 08:21am

The relations between two countries are being deteriorated day by day. I am waiting for the day when the two countries shake hands and show the world our real power.

Desi Dimag Aug 05, 2016 08:22am

The goal has been achieved by India. No, talk further.

Dinesh Aug 05, 2016 08:28am

HOw can host of Lunch itself run away ? You are inviting saarc minister for lunch then you your self run away by excusing your self ? what to say.

Jay Ramon Aug 05, 2016 08:30am

I feel the way forward for India- Pak is cold peace. Cut off all contacts and maintain peace for a few years. Both sides can grow economically

Jay Aug 05, 2016 08:31am

Mr.Rajnath should not have gone to Pakistan in the first place. Good sense prevailed in the end.

Jawad U Rahman Aug 05, 2016 08:32am

Is this the sixth graders fighting it out in a mock UN?

Hemant Aug 05, 2016 08:34am

@kashif yes mr. Chaudhary did not join the lunch. So without the host guest has to do something

Champion of the lost cause Aug 05, 2016 08:35am

This is simply unfortunate! Grow up India and Pakistan. Resolve all your issues amicably and honorably. There is no need to fight like kids on serious issues.

Aftab Aug 05, 2016 08:40am

Better not to speak with India and we will have peace.

Pravin Shastri Aug 05, 2016 08:41am

There are no 'Winners' or 'Losers' in an international conference, this is not a competition.( Rio Olympics is not far off). SAARC charter discourages raising of bilateral issues by the member countries, since they overshadow the entire agenda. It is a convention that contentious bilateral issues can be dealt with in the sidelines to facilitate discussions on the issues concerning the entire South Asia. Unfortunately all the SAARC conferences in the past have become a regular Indo-Pak fist-fight, with the other countries watching helplessly. As mature nations, both our countries should spare a thought for Bhutan, Maldives, Nepal and others who have little interest in our disputes.

Jawad pakistani Aug 05, 2016 08:42am

Nisar is a known lion. He always speak with facts.

Adabra Aug 05, 2016 08:45am

Every one has their own 'suitable' story to cater their audience. Period.

ragbag Aug 05, 2016 08:46am

Host not aatending his own lunch. Very disrespectful.

Justice Aug 05, 2016 08:46am

No one actually reads UNSC comments on Kasmir issue but just start commenting before reading full details and each clauses of it. Mr. Nisar has to read UNSC final comments on UNSC official website first....

Dev Aug 05, 2016 08:47am

Just release the vedio of both the ministers. And let people decide, who said what and how effectively! Don't hide the speech.

Thaneite Aug 05, 2016 08:48am

different story at the other end.

Sushma, Qayamat tak Aug 05, 2016 08:53am

Rajnathji gave a clear massage on terrorism. India stands by its position & will not move an inch from its long standing policy in future for centuries.

GA Aug 05, 2016 08:54am

The people of India and Pakistan are not too different. They get along very well overseas. Can these politicians please end this useless bickering? We beg you. I have made up my mind not to take sides. I hope more Pakistanis and Indians would do the same. We owe it to the people.

majid Aug 05, 2016 08:54am

This is no way to treat a guest, the issue could have Been taken up on some other forum

Kadir Khan Aug 05, 2016 08:56am

Walk away form the dialogue shows inflexible attitude from Indian minister.

Indian Aug 05, 2016 08:56am

@kashif When host shows disrespect by not attending, no point staying for lunch.

Ayub Aug 05, 2016 08:57am

It is a time to shun our differences, mutual jealousies, egoism and usher a new era of friendship, cooperation in the field of science, technology, trade, education, culture and economic development to make a bright future for the next generation.

Inder Singh Aug 05, 2016 08:58am

@R.K.Dubey why is that? Why not the Indian media for once shares the truth!

Denali Aug 05, 2016 09:01am

Amazing. Is this the best India can offer ?

Sami Khan Aug 05, 2016 09:01am

Pakistan is was a host country for the SAARC meeting and should have shown their hospitality to all nations including India. This forum could have been utilised to talk about peace and trading

Sohail Younus Aug 05, 2016 09:07am

We are so obsessed with optics that we let another opportunity for engagement slip by. This exactly what we did with Iran. If we are really interested in Kashmir we will be more focused on how to solve it rather than trying to score cheap points. It looks like we are more interested in the "Kashmir Issue" rather than "Kashmir". By our antics, everyone knows what is going on.

Sane Aug 05, 2016 09:09am

SAARC is not the forum for bilateral issues. Unfortunately it was Mr. Nisar who triggered this by referring Kashmir in opening remarks; was it not fair on part of Mr. Singh to respond, he too is answerable to electorate. Moreover, how can guest be expected to have lunch when host skips it.

Ghazala Srinagar Aug 05, 2016 09:13am

@Sushma, Qayamat tak You are right sister.Zero tolerance on terrorism. Rajnath Singh made a clear massage on good & bad terrorism.

Malar Aug 05, 2016 09:17am


Yes India has to move forward. Forget pakistan, stop all dialogue process and concentrate only on its nation building exercise.

Dar Aug 05, 2016 09:19am

As a Pakistani, I respect Indian delegation as they are fully entitled to their opinions whether directed against us or not. Pak-India relationship is never going to be pleasant during Mr Modi's premiership. It is best that we keep distance from India at this stage and focus on our economy, infrastructure building and corruption issues.

jawaid Aug 05, 2016 09:25am

Why did ch. Nisar speak things that are the source of tension between India and Pakistan. We have been fighting with each other since decades with no solution. Did the Minister think that by repeating, matter would be solved.

KJ Aug 05, 2016 09:29am

@Jawad pakistani : "Nisar is a known lion. He always speak with facts."

Sharjeel Aug 05, 2016 09:34am

I am a die hard PTI supporter but I have no shame is saying that I am proud to have such a brave and bold Interior Minister!

Efti khan Aug 05, 2016 09:37am

Nisar should have not missed the lunch. He was the host.

Abdullah wazir Aug 05, 2016 09:39am

It shows how deep a chasm and yawning gap we have had since independence when a very formal state to state level become a point scoring and personal.

Hassan Aug 05, 2016 09:39am

@Desi Dimaag the one who left the ring lost the debate. as simple as that.

NAWAZ ISLAM Aug 05, 2016 09:40am

Both sides were wrong. Avoiding handshake with a guest and skipping luncheon is BAD hospitality on part of the Pakistan IM. At the same time, hurling accusations on the host country and was totally inappropriate on part of the Indian HM. Both sides have been playing to the gallery for the last 70 years. When we will actually start talking?

KN Aug 05, 2016 09:40am

No hope until the good terrorist bad terrorist game is stopped

BD Mukul Aug 05, 2016 09:42am

Bangladesh home minister did not attend this meeting.

ravian Aug 05, 2016 09:43am

Totally expected outcome of the meeting............. Pak-India wrangling will stop on apocalypse.

Ayaz Abbasi Aug 05, 2016 09:44am

It was the conspiracy of India to no boycott to join the meting of SAARC and leave it in between when meeting was in progress. India has tried to leave her positive impression on international media as they joined but Pakistan did no do well... It so sad to learn that Indian minister indirectly accused Pakistan of sponsoring terrorism; in this case it was prime responsibility of Choudhry Nisar to relinquish his position.

Vijay Aug 05, 2016 09:45am

I am not sure why rajnath went to Pakistan. Everyone knows it is a waste of time and energy.

SAT GOEL Aug 05, 2016 09:46am

@Amit Sharma in democracy you have no choice. He is India's HM.

Arun-KS Aug 05, 2016 09:49am

No positive outcome is expected from SAARC and Ind-Pak relation in near future. This is transition phase of Indian Foreign policy. Morale of the story-Make India stronger to the strongest.

Solah aanne Aug 05, 2016 09:50am

Congratulations to Mr Nisaar for winning word of war.....

kanwarch Aug 05, 2016 09:52am

Salutemail to Pakistan Interior Minister for talkingetting on behalf of poor Kashmir people. Well done Sir. It was a historical moment and truth is always bitter to swallow.

DIL DIL PAKISTAN Aug 05, 2016 09:52am

Both sides should tolrate each other

Ash, India Aug 05, 2016 09:53am

we have separated for a reason, let it be that way. Only promise we can make and stand by not to interfere in each others businesses and internal matters, this alone could have bring peace to the region. And define internal matters on practical ground not emotional ground and our wishes.

aam shehri Aug 05, 2016 09:54am

Mature and well prepared interior Minister, good play Ch. Nisar Ali Khan.

Asad Aug 05, 2016 10:01am

its time we select the right honest man like Mr. Nisar, who have conscience and courage to tell the world honestly what is right and not afraid of pressures suffered by vested interests & business deals. I salute Mr. Nisar and should should be made Prime minister.

SiD Aug 05, 2016 10:06am

two thumbs up for our minister.. this kind of response should have come way earlier from PM directly.

kanwarch Aug 05, 2016 10:11am

Let's disband SAARC till we find a solution to the problem of Kashmir. There is no point in meeting and talking about other issues until main issue of rights of Kashmir people is not resolved keeping in view UN resolutions. It is high time to involve neutral third parties as India and Pakistan are not capable of sitting down and talking to each other in a civil manner. India must agree to involve UN, USA, IOC, Russia or China and stop this childish behaviour of not talking to Pakistan on this issue as it is not going to go away.

Turbo Aug 05, 2016 10:13am

very well done...time to stand up against the childish blame game!

AW Aug 05, 2016 10:15am

Clearly, Pakistan is the host of the Conference and clearly our interior minister chose to be not a good host. Kashmir is a bilateral matter as per the Shimla agreement signed by both countries, so bringing up Kashmir was inappropriate in this forum. Secondly, our interior minister did not even welcome his Indian counterpart as per Dawn report and then he refused to have lunch with his Indian counterpart which does not reflect political maturity. Sideline during lunch would have been the right moment for expressing concern about the situation in Kashmir but not the conference venue

Raj Aug 05, 2016 10:16am

Well done Mr.Rajnath Singh.

Munir Aug 05, 2016 10:17am

All should hear every body and all will be benefited in the long run!

Truth cannot be suppressed

Bilal Aug 05, 2016 10:20am

Welcome to the sad world of 21st century politics ! It is disappointing to see two neighbours who share every aspect of their cultural heritage , cannot engage in a constructive and friendly dialogue with each other ! Both governments have failed their people. We want peace not arguments !

Sami Aug 05, 2016 10:20am

PML-N is doing very well than PPP did and as a matter of fact, PML-N is matchless. Way to go! Bravo Sharif & co

KVSS Prasad Aug 05, 2016 10:21am

@Amit Sharma True. This is no way for a Home minister to behave. While dealing with the international community emotions must be kept at home.

SHANKAR Aug 05, 2016 10:23am

@Asad You guys dont even understand that it is a multilateral conference and wasted an opportunity for productive cooperation among the member countries. What a pity!

m singh Aug 05, 2016 10:24am

I don't know what Pakistan or india got from this saarc meeting but I lost my valuable 10 hours only for reading the Indian and Pakistani newspapers. .....

SACHIN Aug 05, 2016 10:28am

None of these media reports can be trusted as live coverage was not allowed.. who said what is known only to those who were present

AHA Aug 05, 2016 10:31am

@SANE very good comment. Someone with 1% sense can also understand.

unknown Aug 05, 2016 10:34am

Indian minister did right thing saying the truh

Hamza Shahzad Aug 05, 2016 10:39am

Today I am very happy with Ch. Nisar. He expressed and conveyed a strong point of view of Pakistan to India very clearly.

M Khan Aug 05, 2016 10:49am

I am 65 years old and have been watching this kind of foolishness by both contry leadership. They both sit in a glass houses but want to throw rocks at each other.

Syed Ali Aug 05, 2016 10:50am

What will you call India independence movement where in at times violence. Were those activist terrorists. If all movements are termed terrorism, world will fall into a dark pit.

Rahul Aug 05, 2016 10:58am

I am tired of this daily drama but i am assured of one thing seeing the kind of leaders we have i am not seeing the solution to any of our problem for next 750 yrs ,they will busy fighting only :(

ATHEIST! Aug 05, 2016 10:58am

Congrats to both the ministers for bringing shame to their respective countries. One didn't shake hands with a foreign dignitary and didn't attend the lunch thrown by him, the other left the conference in the middle just because he was hurt by the opinions of his counterpart.

Clearly, the lever of bitterness is so overpowering that these grown ups were acting like little school children.

Sajj Aug 05, 2016 10:59am

What's clearly missing is a definition of terrorist or terrorism. Without a definition anyone can choose to call whatever they want terrorism and whoever they want a terrorist. It would be helpful for SAARC to take the lead on this.

Ash Aug 05, 2016 11:04am

It's a wishful thinking that pak and ind will ever have good relations. If ind continues to be represented by people like Singh, forget about even having talking terms at highest level.

udacha Aug 05, 2016 11:10am

Yawn. Old men talk and fight with words. Ordinary and young men die on the ground. Very well done both men and teams.

bryan joseph Aug 05, 2016 11:11am

Almost 90 percent of all commentators from both sides asked for mature reactions. Honestly we should both get over this 'teach each other a lesson' syndrome. Also some people like chest thumping and rhetorics. None of that is going to work. We have both been there done that. Nuclear weapons too are useless. Ideological support is useless. Keeping a high militarized zone is useless. There are similar conflicts in other parts of the world as well.Only we have the chance in the world to show how to resolve conflicts amidst deep emotions, huge loss of lives, possessing nukes. Resolving is possible. What we saw in SAARC summit is what husbands and wives do at times. We have to live together for the sake of our future generations. Our people need to move up from the 'poor nation' tag. And the number of such people is way too high. Appreciate all those commentators who were able to see through with clarity inspite of the issue. Peace is the only option we have to live.

Fani Aug 05, 2016 11:11am

After 70 years...the insane politics still going on from both side...!!

Red Planet Aug 05, 2016 11:11am

"Meanwhile, Saarc ministers condemned terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, calling for collective efforts to fight this menace and emphasised that terrorists should not escape prosecution."That was the collective response of SAARC at the end. Pakistan should understand that.

Daniel Aug 05, 2016 11:19am

First of all its waste of time and waste of eergy to comment on the SAARC Interior Ministers' conference. Why I say so its because we all know what is the Pakistans' stannce on Kashmir and what is Indian stance on Kashmir. The policy towards Kashmir not changed and continues to remain the same ever since independence from both the countries and its a fact its going to remain the same the years ahead, unless a miracle happens. Its therefore useless to expect real warm and coordial relationship from both these countries till the prevailing situation/condition remains in Kashmir in general. Its like watching a five days cricket test match where as the sessions are controlled by each countries during different days but ultimate result remains draw. Similarly after all these hypes the issue will remain as drawn from both sides and its going to be drawn affair even the years ahead.

Sane Aug 05, 2016 11:23am

Friends on this forum passionately discuss, what Interior Ministers of India & Pakistan should not have done for sake of SAARC. In spite of differences, at least both were around. Whereas Bangladesh home minister skipped entire event.

Zoro Aug 05, 2016 11:24am

Looking forward for the next SAARC meeting in India .......

Riaz Aug 05, 2016 11:24am

Pakistan was the host and should have behaved in a more dignified manner. This was a SAARC meeting and there were other nations involved.

PakZinda Aug 05, 2016 11:34am

Whatever may be the differences , a guest shouldn't be treated the way it was yesterday. Rajnath was representing a nation which is almost 5 times bigger than our nation, he may have opinions which we may discuss or condemn it later but to disrespect a delegation , it's absolutely horrible and will definitely haunt us back. Be prepared !!! I take this opportunity to apologies to all the people of India on behalf of Pakistan !!

KHALID HUSSAINI Aug 05, 2016 11:34am

@Bharat Who says USA has better information??? If they had they wouldn't have attacked Iraq on false pretext of presence of WMD.

huma khan Aug 05, 2016 11:34am

Not abruptly... he said what he had come to say ...made aware of his views on terrorism and left

Abdul Majeed Aug 05, 2016 11:36am

@wellwisher 100% agree With India and Pakistan others are dwarfs

ordinary_citizen Aug 05, 2016 11:37am

Without being an expert I can sense that the mood (government and public in general) is belligerent these days. This is partly what Mr. Modi promised to his voters that he won't be soft with Pakistan like his predecessors. I think Pakistan need to give some time to the Indians to cool off and reassess the situation. You can't force dialogue on a sovereign nation. They need to be in a mood to listen for such exercise to be fruitful.

Kapil Dev Aug 05, 2016 11:39am

Well done Ch. Nisar. proud of you.

Farrukh Aug 05, 2016 11:39am

I was expecting a bit of professionalism.

AndrewZ Aug 05, 2016 11:40am

The Indian FM lacks professionalism and diplomatic skills!

Jigar Aug 05, 2016 11:40am

Excellent presentation and job done by Rajnath singh.

Asim Rao Aug 05, 2016 11:41am

Indian envoy should not have left the meeting - that shows lack of professionalism. Nisar was not wrong when he said - what he said.

There has to be a difference between Freedom Fight and Terrorism.

Kashmiris are 100% genuine Freedom Fighters - there is absolutely no doubt about it.

Even India or Indians know that - but by putting their head in Sand - they are merely pretending that Kashmir's Freedom Fighting does not exist.

Exactly the same way other nations have bought their Freedom - KASHMIRIS have 100,000% right to live their own life and make their own decisions.

Rahim Indian Kashmiri Aug 05, 2016 11:42am

@Sushma, Qayamat tak Very well said & fully support your views.

Kamal Pasha. Aug 05, 2016 11:42am

@Riaz p, Rajnath should have behaved as a refined guest being a minister.

Rohit Singh Aug 05, 2016 11:45am

Good Job Mr Rajnath SIngh

jay verma Aug 05, 2016 11:49am

@Nice Yes..accept we couldnt be friends..and move forward.

Yousuf Srai Aug 05, 2016 11:50am

Pakistan as a host should have behaved more responsibly. This was not a PML-PPP meeting, but a more dignified multinational meeting.

Zulfiqar Aug 05, 2016 11:53am

SAARC forum is wastage of time and resources.

Sarfaraz, Anantnag Aug 05, 2016 11:54am

Well done Rajnath Singh .Terrorism has no place in todays world.

Logical Indian Aug 05, 2016 11:57am

Has anyone read UN resolution on Kashmir? go and search and you will get to know the solutions of the problem

FMD Aug 05, 2016 12:02pm

@Bharat. Really !! yes like WMD in Iraq and info about Syria. americans and truth. The report against Tony blair is glaring and shaming for both countries and all Allies who took part in operation. US only look after its interests and they will never want peace among both countries.

Asad Aug 05, 2016 12:04pm

At least we have someone like Mr. Nisar, who stands up for Pakistan and not influenced like others who have business relations in India/England/US. Salute to him. He is the right person to be PM.

Rajan Talwar Aug 05, 2016 12:07pm

@noob - Well said. Politian's are fooling common innocent people of their countries.

Sixer from Chakwal Aug 05, 2016 12:07pm

@Rahul Being a Pakistani, I second you

Khwaja Aug 05, 2016 12:07pm

@Ash, India It woukd be nice for a joint public focrum to be formed. Let civilized people give short reasons why two nations should or should not be friendly and how to proceed forward to either get friendly or just destroy each other with a war. Simple.

I think if two start to respect each others faith, help each ofher like neighbors should, and criminalize war mongering, life would be beautiful for oyr next generations.

We have lost everything.

wasim akram Aug 05, 2016 12:07pm

@Kapil Dev Well Done Rajnath. We are proud of you !!

LoKarLoBaat Aug 05, 2016 12:09pm

He was there to talk tough business... not to have lunch!

Imtiaz Akhter Aug 05, 2016 12:11pm

Bilateral issues cannot be discussed on SAARC platform. Pakistan should have been more diplomatic.

india se Aug 05, 2016 12:16pm

Every thing is genuine in Love and War..

Lafanga Aug 05, 2016 12:17pm

So Indian HM wanted to waltz into SAARC meeting, lecture Pakiatan and go back as a hero. I am glad Ch Nisar replied back in kindness. If India thinks that being a bigger country they can steamroll any meeting then they need to be brought down to their rightful place.

Kashmiri Aug 05, 2016 12:24pm

@Desi Dimag sure! Your rajnath Singh and his buddies have lost any iota of trust they had with Kashmiris.

Ramesh Kumar Sharma Aug 05, 2016 12:26pm

very nice show indeed by honb ch nisar

Kashmiri Aug 05, 2016 12:26pm

@SHANKAR India did not understand that dialogue was the way forward on the Kashmir issue. Any goodwill with the Kashmiris now lays spent. Kashmir will be independent soon and the waters of the subcontinent lay in Kashmir. Wonder how the foreign relations of Kashmir and India will be??

Haseeb Aug 05, 2016 12:38pm

This is not kabadi where teams cheer up for their contestant. We should be grieved by the non-sense attitude of both these ministers. Instead of talking about peace and trade, they are thumping chests to humiliate others. Shame on us !

Faisal Hamid Aug 05, 2016 12:41pm

Who can decide it was not setup. Humans are suffering, and what kind of human are they when they can't even think about it. The management of both the countries (India & Pakistan) needs a high-tech brain scanning. This scanning should be done by joint team of Japan, Germany, France, England. This team should be worked under the leadership of Saudis and Iranians....

Faisal Aug 05, 2016 12:49pm

I wonder when sanity will prevail. Walking off from the summit was childish. India needs to realise the they wants to play with the big boys but it needs to show a big heart also. Both countires need to focus on the betterment of their people. With so much hungry and poverty money should be spent on people rather then on weapons and such meetings. Cut off all ties bw India & Pakistan and lets live happlily.

Shehzad Aug 05, 2016 12:51pm

Logical Indian

First part of the bargain is for India to accept that it would abide by the UN resolutions and then the terms of troops withdrawal can be discussed.

India's position on UN resolutions is clear.

M Khan Aug 05, 2016 01:07pm

Pakistan is proud of Ch Nisar, the Lion Hearted.

SSB Aug 05, 2016 01:08pm

Dont Under estimate RAJNATH SINGH He is no-2 in Indian Govt He Is very Mature Leader,The Only Man in BJP who Paved the way for Modi For PM,Otherwise he will the candidate for PM , He has good Political Scenes and handle the BJP in adverse condition as party President But actual New not coming but happens inside , In india their is different story

Khawar Saleem Aslam Aug 05, 2016 01:09pm

Losing yet another opportunity and platform to talk is really has not note justice to millions of people on both sides. Pakistan should and always remain open to talks.

dubai se Aug 05, 2016 01:15pm

He is a very matures and decent man with cool head. All his actions means business

immo Aug 05, 2016 01:15pm

Good expose them!! they will always run and hide when confronted with truth, So called biggest democracy does not have stomach to digest little truth

haris Aug 05, 2016 01:17pm

@Get Real : Well this time SAARC did showed the despicable face of Indian politics. Didn't you see how your Home Minister left the conference in disgrace.

Ady Aug 05, 2016 01:25pm

unprofessional behaviour .

Ady Aug 05, 2016 01:27pm

Ch Nisar Zindabad

NPS Aug 05, 2016 01:31pm

"People wo live in glass hauses, should`nt throw Stones."

Atif Aug 05, 2016 01:36pm

Ch. Nisar . Brilliant work done.

Imtiaz Ali Khan Aug 05, 2016 01:38pm

I always appreciate India and it's beautiful people. This is really sad to see, perhaps the first time I thought honorable Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh is not fit for the job. I don't see any grace in him, India has a lot of talent and they really need to find someone better to represent them at this high level. I love India always feel the pain when someone in India gets hurt, because we are the same people. This was expected by him. You can't walk out to make yourself look good in India, people know Mr Singh even in India you are unfit for the job. Fundamentalist are not appreciated anymore in our land. God bless India and Pakistan Shanti to all.

Raja Farhat Abbas Aug 05, 2016 01:43pm

Proud of your Nisar Sahib,well spoken.

nadeem Aug 05, 2016 01:48pm

salute to nissar from pti

Akash Aug 05, 2016 02:05pm

We are in a vicious circle. it looks like will never end:(

Ali Aug 05, 2016 02:07pm

very childish behavior of Hindu minister

Khwarezmi Aug 05, 2016 02:11pm

When Indians use deadly force against unarmed civilians in Kashmir they should also be ready to face critisism and condemnaton in the international community.

Aditi Kaushik Aug 05, 2016 02:23pm

@Imtiaz Ali Khan I really respect and appreciate your opinion. But what we have seen in India from Rajnath Singh's parliament speech today is quite different. He said the host left the venue abruptly without having lunch. As a protocol, it would have been inappropriate for him to have lunch after the host left. He did say he did not take any offense in that situation.

sbk Aug 05, 2016 02:25pm

When there is now so much bitter feelings between the two countries, the Indian Home Minister, should have avoided going to Pakistan for attending the Saarc meeting, just like Bangladesh did. Now, what happened? When Rajnath sent a message to Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, the Chairman of the Saarc meeting, asking whether he (Nisar) would be coming to the lunch, the interior minister excused himself from attending the lunch. With this insult, Rajnath Singh left the venue without attending the final session of the conference. As the Chairman of the Saarc meeting, Nisar should have treated his Indian guest well, whatever may be the differences between the two countries. Sad ending.

Tsriq Aug 05, 2016 02:36pm

Good riddance

Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Aug 05, 2016 02:50pm

A true and befitting reply by the Pakistani interior minister to the Indians whose "movers and shakers" are living in a fool's paradise regarding Jammu and Kashmir since last seven decades. In fact, they are uselessly trying to see the whole world through their own eccentric lense of biases and bigotry, discrimination and dogmatism, ignorance and intolerance, injustice and racism, narrowmindedness and prejudice, castes and classes, sectarianism and stratum, to say the least.

asad Aug 05, 2016 02:57pm

@SHANKAR whats wrong If human tragedy and genocide of muslims in occupied kashmir is highlighted in multilateral conference by Mr. Nisar. He deserve all tribute to make all know that life of human worth value of which Gujrat mastermind thinks otherwise.

Ijaz Aug 05, 2016 02:59pm

Bravo Nisar!

For once a Pakistani minister stands up for Pakistan

Harry Aug 05, 2016 03:00pm

Saarc is about south Asian countries not about India vs pak. I see no news on what was discussed between countries.

Guest Aug 05, 2016 03:01pm

Pakistan is blessed to have leaders like Ch. Nisar. India has no chance.

yousaf j akhtar Aug 05, 2016 03:04pm

the US has got India right where it wants it, and india thinks it can bully people into submission, let's not forget india has more to loose, hahahaah, should have looked at china, quietly and peacefully taken over the world and now doesn't need to flex a muscle, look at the body language of rajnath, not a man with peace in mind.

Abid Hafeez Aug 05, 2016 03:20pm

I stand against PML-N on many issues but Ch. Nosar has done excellent by showing Indian counterpart the true picture. The same should be done when it comes to broad level.

Naxalite Aug 05, 2016 03:20pm

There is some diplomatic norms which Rajnath needs to learn. This attitude servers none.

Naxalite Aug 05, 2016 03:21pm

@Reality_ Truth These are diplomatic meetings and everyone needs to follow some norms. Good attempt to generalize it though

Jamil Aug 05, 2016 03:25pm

The people of Kashmir will themselves win freedom. The indian forces can not break this resolve.

Ayaz Abbasi Aug 05, 2016 03:25pm

We have huge respect for India and its people, as they have been our brothers and sisters since starting but Being a Law Minister of a country he must not have left the session in between

Fried Chillies Aug 05, 2016 03:31pm

@Dinesh shows the maturity of diplomacy

Sohail Khan Wazir Aug 05, 2016 03:32pm

One day they'll also run away from kashmir. Completely childish reaction from India home minister.

Proud of you Ch Nisar.

Wajid Aug 05, 2016 03:37pm

It's the same story. Pakistan has always tried to keep up the momentum, but it takes two to make a quarrel.

sbkiyer Aug 05, 2016 03:43pm

@Sohail Khan Wazir , Never insult your guest, after inviting him.

Murtza Bilal Aug 05, 2016 03:50pm

India actually have no evidence of Pak's direct involvement in terrorism. And Pak has not officially declared wani as martyr, rather it has condemned the killing of freedom fighters and freedom fighters are not necessarily terrorists. certain extremists groups(from pak) consider wani as hero but he was indeed engaged in militant activities but was not supported by the state of Pak

Tit for Tat Aug 05, 2016 04:10pm

Leaving the ring means losing the bout.

Adnan Aug 05, 2016 04:14pm

Now where is our hospitality that we are known for?? Inviting for lunch, and then skipping it. That was bad on Nisar's part

Jamil Aug 05, 2016 04:18pm

@Harry The prosperity of SAARC countries is linked to the solution of the Kashmir problem. By respecting the legitimate rights of the people of Kashmir, this area will witness huge peace dividend in the shape of increased economic and political collaboration between SAARC countries, which will be mutually beneficial.

M. Siddique Aug 05, 2016 04:30pm

India cannot handle challenge to its self grandoisement. Why India cannot learn that terrorism and freedom movements are two different things? It is not a rocket science but an occupation.

Sudhakar USA Aug 05, 2016 04:45pm

What kind of a host invites all the guests for a lunch and runs away from it? Mr. Rajnath Singh did the right thing by skipping such a lunch. As a guest he kept his respect.

Wajid Hussain Aug 05, 2016 04:46pm

India cannot debate about Kashmir with Pakistan. The points Pakistan makes about Kashmir are valid. That's why they don't want third party involved in mediation. Ch Nisar is the only politician in Pakistan that makes his points clear and knows what he his talking about.

Satyameva Jayate Aug 05, 2016 04:54pm

SAARC will stay disfunctional as long as both India and Pakistan are its members. The rest of the members must expel on of them. Which one will they choose?

Jamil Aug 05, 2016 05:16pm

@Satyameva Jayate India should be expelled from SAARC for denying the legitimate rights of the people of Kashmir to decide their future in a free and fair manner. Alternatively all SAARC countries should collectively put pressure on India to abide by the UN resolution calling for a plebiscite under UN auspices to determine the will of the people of Kashmir to decide their future in a fair and impartial way.

The UN resolution was accepted by both India and Pakistan.

Anil Sharma Aug 05, 2016 05:28pm

But how can the guest be there when the host is away meeting his PM!

Freeman Aug 05, 2016 05:29pm

The greatest achievement of SAARC had been only lunches that too ruined this time. Goodbye saarc

REFORM Aug 05, 2016 05:35pm

Dear readers, What qualify ch nisar, nd rajnath, to receive qudos. What they have done for their poor masses in their own countries. ch nisar, being a host, if he left the venue before lunch, this would be deemed extreme discourtesy. Both countries must mend their ways, don't play to the gallery, instead strength their relationship. People can observe clout of Indian diplomacy, how successfully they handled Saudi Arabia and got all privileges for stranded Indian labourers. Whereas Pakistanis are left at mercy of SA. Imagine if India and Pakistan put up combine efforts, these gulf states would start trembling. However, who cares for Kashmir,nd importantly who carry on hostilities, people must watch mr asghar khan's old tv interview which is recently in circulation on facebook. At least there is one courageous person who could call spade a spade in our part of world??

roy Aug 05, 2016 05:37pm

@Jamil have you read UN resolution?

mo Aug 05, 2016 05:41pm

This is all very unfortunate. Both Indian and Pakistan never spare any opportunity to criticise one another. India clearly is in a weak position politically due to what has recently happened in Kashmir and Pakistan knows this. However both sides say they are willing to speak, they just don't want to speak on certain issues. India is completely averse to speaking about Kashmir whereas the only thing that needs to be done is to make the LoC the border. This is the resolution of the Kashmir issue, Pakistan is not naive to think one day IoK will become Pakistan nor is India naive to think that Azad Kashmir will become pat of India. All they need to do is draw a line quite literally !

Jamil Aug 05, 2016 05:41pm

What is happening in Kashmir right now is a genuine freedom movement, can't even see a hint of terrorism involved.

This is a mass and popular uprising of the people of Kashmir against indian occupation force.

The day is not far off, when the people of Kashmir will win their freedom inshaAllah.

Mike London Aug 05, 2016 06:10pm

Some one invited their guest for Lunch and the host himself left with out attending, it is the worst case of hospitality.

N_Saq Aug 05, 2016 06:42pm

Mr Rajnath if you have the courage to lecture others then you should also have the stomach to listen what others have to say. This childish behavior of I am not playing because I was given out does not bode well for a politician of your caliber.

You must have known or should know that SAARC is not about India lecturing and others listening instead everyone member has the right to say what they is a two way street.

You exactly acted like a bully and whimper down as soon as someone (Choudry Nisar) challenged you. I hope next time India will send a politician to SAARC instead of a bully.

haider ali Aug 05, 2016 08:02pm

@Amit Sharma We are proud of Indians like you!

haider ali Aug 05, 2016 08:03pm

Great response by Ch. Nisar Ali,

Born_independent Aug 05, 2016 08:51pm

India could be a big country area or population wise but it doesn't mean they can control or direct everything in the region. May be they haven't faced such reaction from any other SAARC country but Pakistan doesn't care for their self-claimed superiority. If you have issues, sit and talk, don't run or keep floating conditions before talks.

Jamil Aug 06, 2016 08:23am

@roy Yes, I have. Have you?

The UN resolution on Kashmir calling for a plebiscite to determine the will of the people of Kashmir is a historical fact and remains part of the UN record and very much valid to the present day.

It's time that India should discharge its moral obligation by behaving as a democratic country, give the people of Kashmir their due right to determine its future in a free and fair manner.

Saif Aug 06, 2016 09:00am

Good riddance!

A Pakistani Aug 06, 2016 09:43am

I am not agreed with PMLN Government at various policies and actions. But I admire what Ch. Nisar said and did at SAARC Conference .

AAK Aug 06, 2016 10:13am

To be honest with my Indian friends, i will urge them to settle the issue according to wishes of Kashmir's and according to UN resolution that give them the right of self-determination.

Mann Aug 06, 2016 01:04pm

@Amit Sharma u r wrong

Purush Aug 06, 2016 02:09pm

@Dinesh Absolutely. It is a pity people are either not aware of it or are deliberately trying to distract the debate.

Abdulla Hussain Aug 06, 2016 02:19pm

What alternative he had, his country cannot face the ground reality in Kashmir where Kashmiris are adamant not to live with India. By the way this is not the first time India made a walkout, in Oct 1965 Indian foreign minister made a similar walkout from UN session on Kashmir.

Ghulam Aug 06, 2016 02:31pm

Saarc have 7 member countries. If you take out India out of it no other country have any problem with any other member but India have problems with each member be it Sri Lanka or Nepal or any other member. India is the one who is interfering with all their neighbors.

Jamil Aug 06, 2016 03:07pm

@A Pakistani Ch. Nisar did not do anything great but only reiterated Pakistan's longstanding position on the just and fair demand of the people of Kashmir.

SHAHID MAHMOOD Aug 06, 2016 03:07pm

@Ghulam 100 percent correct, Sir.

MK Aug 06, 2016 04:49pm

@Moby Staying there was wastage of time when the talks were not constructive at all. No one was there to eat food.

Iftikhar Husain Aug 06, 2016 04:50pm

I fully support Ch Nisar to put the real facts no ashame in that.

MK Aug 06, 2016 04:50pm

@Get Real Agreed. South asian countries already have bi-lateral treaties that they are using to their advantage.

MK Aug 06, 2016 05:00pm

@mo I think India will agree to that but Pakistan won't. They have skewed the kashmir issue to an extent in their public perception and use it to deflect attention on internal issues that they don't actually like to see its resolution.

observer Aug 06, 2016 05:34pm

Meanwhile, Saarc ministers condemned terrorism in all its forms and manifestations, calling for collective efforts to fight this menace and emphasised that terrorists should not escape prosecution.

akram Aug 06, 2016 05:36pm

if every time a pakistani insulted india he donated 1 rupee to india's poor, and likewise every time an indian insulted Pakistan he donated 1 rupee to Pakistan's poor. Both nations would be much richer, much happier and more respectful of each other.

GunmasterG9 Aug 06, 2016 06:15pm

@AAK India really dont have problems to settle Kashmir issue but only thing required is that Pakistan should start implementing the preconditions of UN resolution first.

GunmasterG9 Aug 06, 2016 06:16pm

@Jamil Have you really read UN resolution?

AG Aug 06, 2016 06:24pm

This was his plan from the beginning, was wondering why he came?

kumar Aug 06, 2016 06:44pm

What is locus standee of pakistan in kashmir issue ?

Dr. Ramesh Sharma Aug 07, 2016 01:31am

@Ghulam Are you sure what you are saying?

Dr. Ramesh Sharma Aug 07, 2016 01:37am

@N_Saq Saarc was not the summit to start discussing Kashmir Issue as everybody knew what is and why is happening in Kashmir.If you start bringing up an issue then be prepared to listen and not to counter attack and vitiate the atmosphere.

Pakistani Aug 07, 2016 04:03am

@BD Mukul . Sorry we did not notice or cared.

LOUDSPEAKER Aug 07, 2016 04:26am

@Reality_ Truth.

Robert Aug 07, 2016 06:41am

@critic more like it will be easy to sit and breathe.

Innocent Aug 07, 2016 10:38am

Obviously right saying Mr. Nisar

Tickleme elmo Aug 07, 2016 11:14pm

Pakistani leaders should show loyalty to their citizens and commitment to improving their lives first and foremost. Everybody knows Kashmir issue is never going to be resolved as Pakistan wishes... ever! So fix your own internal problems and prosper instead of bankrupting yourselves.

Sunny Sydney Aug 08, 2016 05:21am

Kasmir problem will never be solved the way pakistan and india wants.