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China invites India to join One-Belt-One-Road project

Updated May 10, 2017 08:04am


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Chinese Ambassador to India Luo Zhaohui recalls that when the Mumbai attack took place in November 2008 he was China’s envoy to Pakistan and that he ‘did a lot of mediation at that time’.
Chinese Ambassador to India Luo Zhaohui recalls that when the Mumbai attack took place in November 2008 he was China’s envoy to Pakistan and that he ‘did a lot of mediation at that time’.

NEW DELHI: Chinese Ambassador Luo Zhaohui has called on India to join its One-Belt-One-Road project and assured New Delhi that the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) would not impinge on anyone’s sovereign rights.

The Chinese embassy on Monday released the text of Mr Luo’s remarks made to an Indian think-tank on Friday.

“Some people in the West misread China and tend to think that the ‘Dragon’ and the ‘Elephant’ are inevitable rivals, and that China would not like to see India developing. This conception is wrong. We hope to see India develop well and we are more than happy to help India develop to achieve common development,” he said in an address at the United Services Institute.

Despite recent tensions between the two countries, President Xi Jinping and Prime Minister Narendra Modi will have opportunities to meet each other on the sidelines of summits to be held by the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, G20 and BRICS.

“We need to properly manage differences. As two large neighbours, it is natural that we have some differences. Even family members may have problems,” Mr Luo said.

There was a need to set a long-term vision for China-India relations. “Here’s my suggestion. First, start negotiations on a China-India ‘treaty of good neighbourliness and friendly cooperation’.

“Second, restart negotiation on China-India free trade agreement. Third, strive for an early harvest on the border issue. Fourth, actively explore the feasibility of aligning China’s ‘One-Belt-One-Road Initiative’ (OBOR) and India’s ‘Act East Policy’,” he said.

The OBOR and regional connectivity could provide China and India with fresh opportunities and highlights for the bilateral cooperation. The OBOR is a major public product China has offered to the world. As close neighbours, China and India could be natural partners in connectivity and the OBOR.

“Now the GDP of India is roughly that of China in 2004, some 13 years ago. China leads India by 13 years, mainly because we started reform and opening up 13 years earlier,” Mr Luo said.

He said China and India differed in political systems and China enjoys stronger policy consistency. “India’s political system has its own advantages, but sometimes may cause fluctuations in its policies or at least in its pace of development. As soon as China set reform and opening-up as its centre task, the whole nation is in full sail.”

India still has reservations over the OBOR, saying that the CPEC passes through Azad Jammu & Kashmir, raising sovereignty concerns.

“China has no intention to get involved in the sovereignty and territorial disputes between India and Pakistan. China supports the solution of the disputes through bilateral negotiations between the two countries. The CPEC is for promoting economic cooperation and connectivity. It has no connections to or impact on sovereignty issues,” the envoy said.

He recalled that China and India have had successful experience of delinking sovereignty disputes with bilateral relations even earlier.

“In history, we have had close cooperation along the ancient Silk Road. Why shouldn’t we support this kind of cooperation today? In a word, China is sincere in its intention to cooperate with India on the OBOR, as it is good for both of us.”

The perception that China was partial to Pakistan over others was erroneous. “Some Indian media say that China always puts Pakistan first when handling its relations with South Asia countries. I want to tell you this is not true. Simply put, we always put China first and we deal with problems based on their own merits. Take Kashmir issue for example, we supported the relevant UN resolutions before 1990s. Then we supported a settlement through bilateral negotiation in line with the Simla Agreement. This is an example of China taking care of India’s concern.”

On promoting India-Pakistan reconciliation, China hopes that both sides could live together in peace.

“The development of China, India, Pakistan and the stability of the whole region call for a stable and friendly environment. Otherwise, how could we open up and develop? That’s why we say we are willing to mediate when India and Pakistan have problems. But the precondition is that both India and Pakistan accept it. We do this only out of goodwill. We do hope that there is no problem at all. When the Mumbai terrorist attack on Nov 26, 2008, took place, I was Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan, and I did a lot of mediation at that time.”

China strongly opposes terrorism and is ready to work with India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and the international community in fighting the menace.

Published in Dawn, May 09th, 2017


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Arun May 09, 2017 08:03am

Chinese are the masters of double talks. India on any account, can never trust the Chinese narrative.

ANT May 09, 2017 08:11am

What?? Is China even consulting Pakistan about the invitation?

Dil May 09, 2017 08:12am

India should accept China's offer and join this project for their own benefits .

Chandra May 09, 2017 08:12am

Mr ambassdor first support on nsg membership

Alfatmi May 09, 2017 08:13am

Chinese are smart...what know they want and how to get it.

Avik May 09, 2017 08:17am

India will never join CPEC, neither she will be ready for a open trade relation with China. Because India cannot compete with cheap Chinese products which will increase the trade deficit between these two countries.

thanks but no thanks May 09, 2017 08:18am

Until China supports Indian NSG and UNSC memberships, nothing is worth joining China on any projects

Punit May 09, 2017 08:22am

China is accepting India's power and Importance now.

Truth triumph May 09, 2017 08:23am

13 years... Ok... We will cover it as soon as possible China...

PakPukudenguta May 09, 2017 08:26am

"Then we supported a settlement through bilateral negotiation in line with the Simla Agreement. This is an example of China taking care of India’s concern" "Some Indian media say that China always puts Pakistan first when handling its relations with South Asia countries. I want to tell you this is not true. Simply put, we always put China first " You can not deny this comment getting through. I have just quoted what is published here.

Akshay dongare May 09, 2017 08:28am

Its all business both Indian and Pakistanis should get their minds rights ASAP. Instead of buying books we are buying guns to kill each other. Guess who's winning? Atleast not one of the above.

rana nasir May 09, 2017 08:32am

Very good political move by china, lets see how serious modi is to make india shine.

Jeyaraj May 09, 2017 08:32am

India China and Pakistan should maintain good will help people of all three countries.jointly there will be prosperity. Won't achieve by fighting each other.the issues are political not people to people.but people's are suffering

Samir,India May 09, 2017 08:32am

Sensible talk by the Chinese Ambassador. "China taking care of India's concern" and so will India reciprocate in same manner.

Nivas May 09, 2017 08:33am

no thanks....

Shahid bhat kashmiri May 09, 2017 08:33am

Sir, it passes through our territory and we r not consulted

Nuanced May 09, 2017 08:33am

As an Indian I can only admire Chinese economic progress. Deep within, Indians think they can emulate the Chinese story. That says a lot. China is awesome. regards from an India

Vasan May 09, 2017 08:36am

India has been connected to every continent trough sea routes since many centuries, and most trade happened through Indian ports, most invaders came to India for financial benefits and taken us hostage for many centuries. It is better strengthen India's production capacity, efficiency, and our products are far better premium quality and reliable. India has good relationship all Arab , African, European, American countries, also having good relation ship in the east with Russia, Japan, Korea, Australia, Taiwan Etc.

Indians feel, if India-Pakistan resolves issues and clears our suspicions, and work closer to India, we both will benefit in trade, culture, production, ease of transport rather than looking for very very far offers that doesn't help much towards India's growth. We are very close, and we have all resources near by each other, we have good water resources, and agricultural production.

It is time to open India-Pakistan dialogue and grow together.

cyber Bhai May 09, 2017 08:36am

China supports the solution of the disputes through BILATERAL negotiations between the two countries.

Sachin May 09, 2017 08:37am

Very positive, calm, mature message by Chinese Ambassador. Nice. He also honestly said that China has a China first policy.

Sipiq May 09, 2017 08:38am

China know importance of India for CPEC success!

Khem May 09, 2017 08:40am

No Thank you very much, sovereignty is more important than few economic gains.

karachi wally May 09, 2017 08:42am

US may not allow India to join hands with China!

Imtiaz syed May 09, 2017 08:43am

Just sign OBOR

masand May 09, 2017 08:43am

Pakistanis will not accept....

Truthishere May 09, 2017 08:46am

That's our territory, give that back to us. Once that is done, we may think over it.

Azmeen May 09, 2017 08:50am

Sooner or later India will join this mega project.

JA-Australia May 09, 2017 08:53am

Super masterstroke by China to expose India's Janus-faced handling of international relationships, especially towards China.

lokallobaat May 09, 2017 08:53am

China doesnt support UN resolution on Kashmir??.....What say brothers?

kris May 09, 2017 08:59am

Fair analysis by the Ambassador. However, China needs to show sincerity in narrowing the trade gap with India. Until that happens, India will look at OBOR as yet another means to dump more cheap goods into India from Xinjiang. Right now India's trade deficit with China stands at $50Bn annually. That is just not sustainable in the long run.

Arshad May 09, 2017 09:00am

That's the correct approach and that's the way forward !

Rajpurohit May 09, 2017 09:01am

Sorry sir, next plz

south indian May 09, 2017 09:06am

Only business matters...

Arun May 09, 2017 09:07am

Sensible offer from China. I am sure both countries can work out their differences to be good neighbours.

Not_SUrprised May 09, 2017 09:07am

And who is talking here - a desperate sole financier of a doomed project ?

Alok May 09, 2017 09:09am

Thanks but no thanks Our manufacturers and industry doing very fine ,we don't want cheap products on the cost of our economy and industry . From the start of cpec around 300 industry closed in pakistan whi h include textile etc.People talk about our NTB that's why we have NTBs .thanks

mandy May 09, 2017 09:11am

China wants India to join OBOR and CPEC, because china knows that the success of these projects highly dependent on India.

NZ May 09, 2017 09:14am

good decision in full favour of India commence from China but questionable thoughts are souring up is really India want to join OBOR initiative with Pakistan too in friendliness manner..

Jeevan May 09, 2017 09:16am

China 60bn$ is stuck in Pakistan! Now wants India to bail it out else the whole investment is sunk

Akil Akhtar May 09, 2017 09:19am

Lets see what india does as they kept telling us it was not good for us.....

IndiaN May 09, 2017 09:20am

I love this man and his perception.

Amit z May 09, 2017 09:24am

China even offer to rename CPEC project to include India in it.

toris May 09, 2017 09:27am

fast freinds becoming slow . Now Pakistan must realize the situation

raja May 09, 2017 09:28am

china is scared that strained relation between India and pak will spoil their financial investment in in CPEC.

option May 09, 2017 09:32am

If India is smart, it should stay away from this trap of China!

mandy May 09, 2017 09:33am

China realized without Indian participation OBOR and CPEC is useless.

Hallabol May 09, 2017 09:40am

India should seriously consider the proposal. Both china and India are major economies, and there's a lot they can learn from one another.

LN May 09, 2017 09:46am

Now you remember we are close neighbors! You didn't think of this when you scuttled India's NSG membership.

Vish May 09, 2017 09:47am

And your country is one which said lately that PLA will reach Delhi on Motor bike with in 48 Hrs, don't you remember, so we are ready for any sort of motor bike, bicycle or Jet option is yours.... your Intention is clear, when your objectives to be severed you can go to any extant to get it done, once it is through you rollback to your original agenda like Motor bikes.....

amin May 09, 2017 09:54am

India is too immature to understand this.

Nilesh Atkari May 09, 2017 10:01am

@Not_SUrprised agreed

InsaNEIAT May 09, 2017 10:03am

This gentleman seems reasonable to me. Of course, the Chinese are inviting India to make their investment successful and decrease risk. But India might benefit a lot as well. The Chinese might play a bigger role in disputes with Pakistan, not to mention this could be a start to settling other problems with China amicably. Time to think win-win and see if this idea makes sense from every standpoint.

ANALYST May 09, 2017 10:05am

Chinese Are well aware that without Indian participation , their OBOR won't be a success one. All their CPEC money is going into the sink hole. Chinese over capacity is being diverted on to OBOR projects.

So, that is why Chinese are rethinking their strategy and spending.

oricle May 09, 2017 10:06am

It is very clear what is Chinese priority as they seems that they have set. If I was an Indian negotiations my order would be as follows: Settle all border disputes with India first. Security of and no diversion of water flow from Tibet. Acknowledge Gilgit and Baltisan is Indian Territory and that Pakistan is illegally occupying Pakistan occupied Kashmir (POK) That Pakistan has and no right to cede parts of POK to China. Trade must be controlled by India as China does. That Indians have the right to start any business without Chinese partners. Lastly once the above is achieved parties with Pakistan can discuss and enter into amicable agreements

BNJ May 09, 2017 10:12am

India will never join and that will create a lot of tension for China

Gaurav May 09, 2017 10:17am

Trust me if india doesn't participate no south asian country can fully participate , its just a show off to show support to china, its not feasible

Kishore May 09, 2017 10:23am

Now, China is understanding the importance of India, but it is too late. They knows now they can't do anything excluding India.

RAJA CHILL May 09, 2017 10:29am

Why is China again and again trying to persuade India to join OROB/CPEC ?Certainly China itself has doubts about the projects' future.

GAUR May 09, 2017 10:31am

Thats the difference, world wants to involve IND and PAK has to request for getting involved.

D.KUMAR May 09, 2017 10:46am

Investment for CPEC for Pakistan by China, and now China through Business with India, want to earn from India as investment made in Pakistan is in debt.

Shahryar Shirazi May 09, 2017 10:55am

@Vasan "It is time to open India-Pakistan dialogue and grow together"

For this to happen, you will have to accept the reality of Pakistan and stop blaming every Pakistani for the invasions into India by Central Asian, Afghani and Irani Kings. Not sure why you guys do not blame Pakistanis for the British invasion and loot.

Shahryar Shirazi May 09, 2017 10:58am

@mandy "China wants India to join OBOR and CPEC, because china knows that the success of these projects highly dependent on India."

or perhaps China is interested in the 'super babies' RSS scientists are working on ?

VIRKAUL May 09, 2017 10:59am

@Dil , What are the benefits, please elaborate?

R.Kannan May 09, 2017 10:59am

China is begining to realise that Indian opposition to OBOR can hurt China badly. So these overtures. However, there are far more issues involved with China consistently opposing India at all global forums. There is a big mismatch between Chinese actions and their talk and this needs to be aligned properly first.

azadi dil KI May 09, 2017 11:04am

@Dil Whose benefit? CPEC only benefits China. No thanks we are not Chinese dumping ground

Ob May 09, 2017 11:10am

Excellent idea. India should join and work towards a peaceful neighbourhood and refrain from its jingoism.

Rahul May 09, 2017 11:16am

If China and Pakistan are natural partners what is China and India then ?

Raheel May 09, 2017 11:18am

@ANT China is looking for an economy which can absorb it's goods at the rate of $200B+ per year. None of the OBOR countries except few EU economies can sustain that. CPEC will have economic value only if India joins it otherwise it is simply western sea access for China.

Dinesh May 09, 2017 11:21am

Good that China has consider renaming CPEC, so that India can join the project. However, it is possible that India may join the new CPEC only after it get the NSG membership.

A shah May 09, 2017 11:32am

13 years is not long. China has an aging population and will be burdened with older retirement and hi medical bills. India on the other hand has only of the youngest populations in the world.

Patriot indian May 09, 2017 11:38am

We can even trust Pakistan once in a while despite all problems but never Chinese.

zanab May 09, 2017 11:43am

For the development of China it is necessary for her to make good relations with both Indo Pak.

amarendra May 09, 2017 11:44am

ZAK...Did they consulted Pakistan first ? And how India can become part of OBOR without resolving Kashmir issue ??

Ben May 09, 2017 11:46am

China knows that with India not joining but actively opposing ,this project is not financially viable and too risky to invest huge sums of money and end up in a conflict, armed incursions and even a war like situation where every one and his uncle will jump in. The actual text in actually makes an offer to change the name CPEC to assuage India's souvernity concerns over route passing through disputed areas of Kashmir. If the conflict is not resolved and militants from Pakistan,Afghanistan,Balochistan ( with help from you know who) etc. would keep the pot boiling and Chinease are by no mean stupid to invest their money upfront and see it go up in smoke .

aleem May 09, 2017 11:53am

@Jeevan Usual skeptical and arrogant attitude. Learn something from China who are much more advanced, rich, industrialized, cultured, strong and in every field much better and stronger than India but still so humble and civilised.

Taimur May 09, 2017 11:56am

Sooner or later India will have to join it so Indian politicians should think twice before criticizing CPEC

Gunjan May 09, 2017 12:04pm

@rana nasir - That assumes that we are besotted with CPEC and OBOR like you are for your own development. India would grow without OBOR as well as with it.

Falcon1 May 09, 2017 12:08pm

China will make friends and exploit opportunities where it can, to generate profits for itself. So no surprise if economic interests trump territorial interests.

Pakistan is in a much better position considering its location closer to the Arabian Gulf and to the Suez Canal for Chinese container ships heading to Europe and beyond.

SHARMAJI May 09, 2017 12:26pm

Indian Market is based on local consumption and local industries, we don't need China at all..

We are more than happy not to be part of OBOR or CPEC, all the Best to my Pakistani Brothers

Sj May 09, 2017 12:28pm

Looks like China is tuning in for India to get into OBOR.

Shahid akram May 09, 2017 12:38pm

It is a very good initiative. It will help Asian integration and end of western hegemony.

Gilgit May 09, 2017 12:40pm

CPEC is going to work completly smooth without india as they may try to divert the project at any phase when they see any interests. They can't be trusted anyway. For China, it is clear that anything from india involving the hitting of Pakistan's interests is entirely unacceptable for Pakistan. Further, Pakistan has much more opportunities to get india busy even within their own territory (Nagaland, Assam, Khaalistan movements) for another decade or even 02 decades sigle handedly or even with help of China...while keeping the CPEC working

timetostopthis May 09, 2017 12:44pm

Their statement "Simply put, we always put China first" should be an eye opener for Pakistan. Put your self interest first as the Chinese are not doing you any favours by developing CPEC. They are only doing it keeping their interest in mind. Hope someone is keeping your interest in mind too.

Raj KUMAR May 09, 2017 12:57pm

@rana nasir Modi is the elected PM of our country,fortunately for us our pm is accountable to us the public. He will have to do what is good for the public.

MEA May 09, 2017 12:59pm

It's a fair statement where national interest is all in all. Pakistan should take a lesson from it.

South Asia May 09, 2017 01:03pm

@Akil Akhtar At least we will not take loans haphazardly and also take care of local businesses. We know the Chinese and their trustworthiness.

Anurag Gautam May 09, 2017 01:07pm

I have high Regards for china i claim that China has made luxury possible for a commen man by making cheaper and useful products of life.India can also make world a more happier place to live in by using its biggest asset "MANPOWER"

GYhindd May 09, 2017 01:07pm

India is still 13 years behind China ! If it doesn't join This project gap will increase to may be 25 years

South Asia May 09, 2017 01:09pm

@amin Yes.Taking loans at 18% interest and that too beyond repayment capacity and that too at the cost of local industry. Very Mature Indeed.

No Name May 09, 2017 01:09pm

India don't consider 1963 agreement between 'China & Pakistan Legal' hence no concessions on Indian part in BRI could be expected.

essu May 09, 2017 01:10pm

China is desperate to off load its cheap over capacity/manufactured goods in the Indian market

shumaila May 09, 2017 01:12pm

@ANT It is not about the China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). It is about One Belt, One Road (OBOR) project, which the genuinely the vision of President Xi Jinping and he can invite any other country to join the project without consulting Pakistan.

Saif zulfiqar May 09, 2017 01:20pm


Mr Satyabrat D Singh May 09, 2017 01:24pm

Good soft words but that doesn't mean they can change the narrative not so easy Sir. China keeps its market closed for others in name of promoting locals players while want others to open their Doors. Do this first open Chinese pharmaceutical and IT sector for India then they can talk about changing the narratives.

jaVIDkashmiri May 09, 2017 01:24pm

By the way, CPEC passes through Kashmir and nobody is consulting Kashmiris. China, India, Pakistan - each occupying a part of Kashmir. Shame on all the three. First give freedom to whole Kashmir and make the area peaceful and join hands. Kashmiris will open their hearts to all the three - it can become the land of friendship for whole region.

Imtiaz May 09, 2017 01:26pm

India should focus on its progress, building roads across countries is not its business.

Let every country develop and have international standard roads, which can bring prosperity if used by other country transit.

BABU May 09, 2017 01:30pm

India should never accept, this will only bring prosperity to Chinese manufacturers. Why should India help China, the competitor? China knows well that CPEC is bound to fail if India is not a part of it.

kevin May 09, 2017 01:53pm

@Dil We are not fool to negotiate with China for OBOR. They want free trade with India for flooding our market with Chinas cheap goods. No Never... If the govt accept this we indians will come out in the road.

Mubashir ul hassan May 09, 2017 01:58pm

It seems China knows India more than India knows about herself.

vishal May 09, 2017 01:59pm

India will not accept this offer as the only profit partner of CPEC is China ..CPEC is loss to Pakistan heavy loss..

Zak May 09, 2017 02:02pm

There is a limit on how much steel, cement, machineries and loans China can dump in Pakistan , they need new avenues like India.

But India will never submit to Chinese hegemony.

kevin May 09, 2017 02:06pm

@Taimur Why Mr.... Whole 4500 Kilometer boarder with China and why should we go through Pakistan. Use some logic Mr.

kevin May 09, 2017 02:06pm

@Taimur This is not politicians we, the people of India will decide.

Taimoor khan May 09, 2017 02:06pm

Carrot and stick policy.

sajed syed May 09, 2017 02:09pm

Flip Flop.

Suneesh Mohan May 09, 2017 02:09pm

How will India benefit from OROB?

sky May 09, 2017 02:11pm

India should keep aside ego and join the project to the extent of serving its interests. Completely staying out of the project seems rigid posture not accepting the reality of Chinese moving to the top of the World. The current strategic equation is only transient phase. As neighbors, they have been amicable in most part of the history and a long future awaits where both nations are gearing up to be Global players.

kevin May 09, 2017 02:12pm

@aleem Read the article India is 13 years only behind China. We are ready to wait another 25 years to reach China (Our GDP growth is 7.5 % ). Please understand why China is eagar to invite India... This is not because of humbleness but they have hidden agenda to floods their goods into our market of 1.30 Billion. We are ourselves going for big manufacturing and flooding Chinese goods to our market will be hazardous for our future. No advise from anybody.

Monsieur May 09, 2017 02:14pm

@Shahryar Shirazi Ignorance is bliss

timetostopthis May 09, 2017 02:14pm

There is a huge trust deficit on the Indian side so they will never join China.

Bilal May 09, 2017 02:15pm

@Shahid bhat kashmiri Passed through your territory :) Are you serious?

guru May 09, 2017 02:19pm

We Indians, will never ever trust the Chinese.... China will say one thing today & another later and we have better things to do than to keep handling these varying statements/opinions of Beijing. Thanks, but no thanks

Talha May 09, 2017 02:19pm

@ANT even pakistan invited India to join. But their hatred is just too much.

Harmony-1© May 09, 2017 02:19pm

@Arun - We know who "masters of double talks" are. Offering satellite facilities but scuttling all opportunities for meaningful dialogue...even cricket on terror ruse...whilst indulging in the same itself through their spies getting caught.

A May 09, 2017 02:20pm

China dint bother to ask pakistan before asking india to join OBOR of which CPEC is part...that shows...OBOR/CPEC is for which country

Talha May 09, 2017 02:20pm

@Chandra nsg issue can be solved very easily. Both pakistan and India should be admitted together. Both help each other, problem solved.

Jamal May 09, 2017 02:22pm

@Arun: the same could be said about India. If Chinese are the master of double speak then India has a PhD.

nikus May 09, 2017 02:28pm

@Nuanced - It is not. We have better acquired high skilled, digital service, based economy and are likely to do better in future.

skumar May 09, 2017 02:29pm

" Simply put, we always put China first " ..that says it all

tomUHTO TAWMAYTO May 09, 2017 02:34pm

Latest news: India has rejected the offer

MS May 09, 2017 02:34pm

Chinese are waisting their time with Indians. Nothing good will come out of it

soj May 09, 2017 02:36pm

China Sees India as a big market to dump their Cheap and low quality products.

Rajat May 09, 2017 02:39pm

Best wishes to pak for cpec .but india cannot compet with chinese goods at any level .may be in future we would join the project but now could'nt even think about it

Govind Sahu May 09, 2017 02:44pm

China realized that to get the break even of such a huge investment and to make such large project viable Indias presence could have been a blessing in disguise. Never know CPEC may show the way to dissolve the complicated border issue of china and pakistan

Asif A Shah May 09, 2017 02:48pm

@Vasan Thank you for your positive approach.

Asif A Shah May 09, 2017 02:51pm

@mandy China wants India to join OBOR because China does not want a constant irritant in its neighborhood.

adviser May 09, 2017 02:58pm

we always put china first.. Nothing more to expecting friend from you..

Mansoor May 09, 2017 03:06pm

What is the purpose of so called OBOR without India.Population of India is 125 crore which is 1/6 of world.China can't ignore such a huge market.Pakistan boasts that many countries are joining this project but club all these countries together still they do not make a market equalling India.Without India this project will be a burden for China.Think your relations with your neighbours get worsened in future due to state sponsor terrorism and Iran and Afghanistan will not join this project then what is the future of this project.

South Asia May 09, 2017 03:09pm

@Taimur CPEC is a very tiny part of OBOR. Please do not confuse both the terms. India will join OBOR on her own terms unlike Pakistan. Like CPEC India is also involved in in BCIM (Bangladesh China India Myanmaar) corridor.

kuNAL MAJUMDAR May 09, 2017 03:13pm

Every Indian needs to work hard to make India the next Manufacturing Hub of the world. We are on the right's a matter of time.

Umar bin khattab May 09, 2017 03:14pm

India in now recognized the impact of CPEC on region.

kuNAL MAJUMDAR May 09, 2017 03:18pm

@Taimoor khan: An old proverb made new: What's sauce for the goose is NOT sauce for the gander. Got the drift?

IMTIAZ ALI KHAN May 09, 2017 03:21pm

@Akshay dongare Mashallah! Bhai! Books and it brings Om Shanti Om message and that is how we become a true winner. We Indo Pak are strong together a FORCE, most are making sure that doesn't happen, we have to find the this hate in our hearts from within first and anyone and everyone who talks about hate we shall reject him, be it foreign on one of our own leaders.

IndoPak Blood Brothers 4 Life!

azadi dil KI May 09, 2017 03:30pm

Thanks for the invitation. Like you have China first policy we too have India first policy. It's a huge losses than any profits to us. So we never join. We respect your China first attitude. You too must respect India first attitude.

timetostopthis May 09, 2017 03:35pm

Ofcourse the Chinese want India on board. With such a huge and well off middle class, India is a very attractive market for the whole world,not only China. .

Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad May 09, 2017 03:36pm

Well done Chinese Ambassador Luo Zhaohui. Keep it up and hang on tough.

Aamir May 09, 2017 03:39pm

Let it be clear China is not in need of India, tough loss is sure for India if they don't join

jayesh May 09, 2017 03:39pm

@Azmeen keep dreaming. india has already developed first phase of chabahar port. video available on youtube.

AMRISHI May 09, 2017 03:44pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Hang of tough for what? Doesn't make any sense? Are you even thinking before writing?

SKJ May 09, 2017 03:57pm

I think offer of trade is better than prospect of war and prospect of terrorism. I think India should consider joining economic corridor as India is big market and needs trade to create employment. China is already making lots of investment, so obviously they will not want to risk that investment by excluding a big market like India. Apart from being big market, India offers quality manpower and useful ideas to make this region very prosperous.

South Asia May 09, 2017 04:01pm

@Umar bin khattab I think you got it wrong, China is coaxing India to join. And they are coaxing us to join OBOR not CPEC. And India has not accepted, even if we accept, it will be on our terms.

Indian4RMBLORE May 09, 2017 04:05pm

@Aamir thn y r thy requesting repeatedly for joining us. It seems thy r thinking to change d name, is it true

Indian4RMBLORE May 09, 2017 04:08pm

@kuNAL MAJUMDAR Agree with u, lets work even more hard

Indian4RMBLORE May 09, 2017 04:12pm

@Mansoor very well elaborate and logically correct

Qasim May 09, 2017 04:15pm

@Vasan well said bro this is the problem if we get United lots of issues will be solved and we will emergency get as great Powers and friends rather than enemies. There are forces internal and external on both the sides which is not letting this happen and you know the forces

David Rubin May 09, 2017 04:18pm

India's road connectivity with China is much shorter. It does not need CPEC or OBOR. In fact the shortest route for China to Arabian gulf is via India.

Pk May 09, 2017 04:18pm

So are they expecting that India too will take loan from them.. and build a road to be used by them, for their benefit and India pays interest for that... Must be joking..not India.

Iftikhar Husain May 09, 2017 04:20pm

Very good advice by the ambassador to India.

Pk May 09, 2017 04:21pm

Chinese are know for their belief of "friends with benefits" or rather "friends only till they benefit" then...

Vasan May 09, 2017 04:24pm

@Qasim The external forces will never allow India-Pakistan to be friends. So, that our money will not be spent on defense budgets. If we are together, we can save lot of revenue and improve our lives. More than leaders, people should unite by heart.

Asif A Shah May 09, 2017 04:25pm

@oricle Keep dreaming. Negotiations with adversaries are done on realistic basis and not based on wishful thinking.

khanm May 09, 2017 04:27pm

indeed a brilliant idea. let us set aside our differences, let us resolve them amicably and work for the betterment of our people, we owe it to them, let us say bye bye to disease, poverty, exploitation, malnutrition, and education. Let us be less dependent on the western world. Remember we are neighbor forever.

Hidden truth May 09, 2017 04:30pm

@Arun everybody is master of double talk? Aw, innocent Indians.

Ahaq May 09, 2017 04:30pm

President Xi Jinping of China is a broad minded while Modi continues to act selfish narrow mind attitude

VINOD May 09, 2017 04:35pm

"We also We hope to see India develop well and we are more than happy to help India develop to achieve common development,” he said in an address at the United Services Institute. " We sincerely appreciate this very positive and encouraging statement. We also share the feelings and would see that cooperation between to great neighbours keep growing and like Europe and America we be a significant player to carve a better destiny for our people. And for this purpose let us begin by support of China for India's' rightful place in the UN Security Council as India stood with China to get her rightful place in Security Council. Let the positive deeds talk louder than the words.

no thanks May 09, 2017 04:35pm

so china think we required port for our trade which is just 200km away from our own sea

Observer May 09, 2017 04:41pm

A reality check for Pakistan!

Counterpoint May 09, 2017 04:43pm

No thanks. Indian Industries /Jobs will be destroyed. China is welcome to invest & setup companies /create jobs in India but no to import of Chinese manufactured products.

CITIZEN May 09, 2017 04:43pm

come on India grow up please

GAUTAM ( Netherlands) May 09, 2017 04:43pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad

Sir I appreciate your thinking on the matter As rightly felt by you while cheering the Envoy, China will benefit more from the project than Pakistan, because China is lending Pakistan for construction but the works will be executed by its own companies and work force. Most of the lending is on commercial terms, including overhead charges on debt-service and loan-reinsurance.And in most cases, return on equity is guaranteed at either 17 or 20 percent.

ToPi sambhalo May 09, 2017 04:44pm

@Shahid bhat kashmiri

Are you surprised?

sodawaterbottleopenerwala May 09, 2017 04:44pm

@Ahaq we are extremely happy with modiji thanks ,you can enjoy the great company of your leaders .allow us less privilaged to survive with modiji .

Amarnath May 09, 2017 04:45pm

India will not join. Simply put, India cannot compete with the china's inexpensive goods (thanks to china's manufacturing prowess). Local Indian manufacturers will lose out, small scale industry will be devastated.

Zak May 09, 2017 04:46pm

@Arun and no one can trust India 10 times more. UN kashmir plebiscite, IWT, Sir creek , SImla agreement ( sneaked into siachen unilaterally)-all violated and broken by India.

Zak May 09, 2017 04:46pm

India can only join CPEC once Kashmir resolved.

Rehan May 09, 2017 04:46pm

While the intentions of the Chinese establishment and those of the Pakistani commentators here may be good, but the simple fact that it is not in India's own interests to join OBOR, simply because it will only benefit the Chinese more, and in the long run may even ruin India's local industries and its markets leading to a doomsday for India's exports. Pakistan can afford to take risk, but India simply cannot as it is on the verge of becoming a very healthy economy.

LK May 09, 2017 04:48pm

Why would India want to join this OBOR. This is basically a means to allow China to have access to India'a massive consumer base at a low cost - so basically help prop up China's manufacturing sector which is ailing under massive overcapacity.

So, no thanks. We will continue as we are doing now. Chinese companies like phone manufacturers are setting up huge manufacturing facilities in India in order to produce goods for the Indian market. That is how it should be. That not great for China, but tough luck.

The countries which hold the cards in future are those with a large consumer base who can buy goods and services. So US, EU, China and India. Why should India give up this advantage?

Zak May 09, 2017 04:48pm

@thanks but no thanks in the end, india will fall behind China the super power waiting to take the baton from US. India and Pakistan are regional powers that need to sort out IOK ocvupation, UN kashmir plebiscite and IOK joining Pakistan.

rahul May 09, 2017 04:58pm

CPEC is useless without 1.3 billion market and worlds fastest growing economy .

what Pakistan has to offer china ??

VINOD May 09, 2017 05:02pm

@Nuanced I feel you are too young and request you to have a deeper look in history. Have a close look when the ambassador says "“India’s political system has its own advantages, but sometimes may cause fluctuations in its policies or at least in its pace of development. As soon as China set reform and opening-up as its centre task, the whole nation is in full sail.” Totalitarian states always have an edge over democracy. Think of France of Napoleon, Germany of Hitler, Italy of Mussolini or USSR of Stalin or even North Korea of today. But they crumble under their own weight. Germany under Hitler moved so fast that England and America were on back foot and Germany almost captured the world. But Sir, the democracies win due genuine support of people. Though they move slow but are sure of every step.

Imran May 09, 2017 05:03pm

Imagine if instead of fighting we bring peace and develop our countries for betterment of the common people. India, Pakistan, and China should work together. I live in Canada and being Pakistani I have many Indian friends and we love each other...than why there is so much political hatred...Have you ever thought about who benefits from spreading hate...Please let's make our countries better now...Let's educate people...have better health care...and have healthy and mature competition to succeed in IT, Sports, education etc.

pakistani May 09, 2017 05:04pm

@ANT . My friend Pakistan was first to invite India to join CPEC. And we still are willing to for everyone's benefit.

vishal May 09, 2017 05:05pm

Chinese envoy in India also offered to rename CPEC, however, later on it was deleted from their website. Chinese can go any extent for their vested interests.

Sagar May 09, 2017 05:22pm

@CITIZEN - "come on India grow up please"

We are already growing - at around 7%.

MG May 09, 2017 05:25pm

@Zak Probably yes if K issue is solved at Indian terms dear

KAul May 09, 2017 05:27pm

OBOR is a perfect win-win for Pakistan. So will it be for SriLanka, Nepal and Bangladesh. India & China however are operating in same space-both are large and fast growing economies that need markets to export their products and services. They don't have much to complement to each other's objectives. So it doesn't suit India to open its markets to an industrial giant several times bigger than itself.

Masood Hussain May 09, 2017 05:31pm

Somebody talking sense if we care to listen.

Indian4RMBLORE May 09, 2017 05:35pm

@Zak wat makes Pakistan regional super power. .

Dev May 09, 2017 05:36pm

China should not be trusted at all. Why would India need that new Silk road? It is solely for China and its power projection on to others.

Rao May 09, 2017 05:39pm

@masand : Thank you.

ML May 09, 2017 05:42pm

Great statements by the Chinese Ambassador.

Mr Satyabrat D Singh May 09, 2017 05:43pm

@Zak first get the information right on Kashmir plebiscite then blame India for anything.

M. Siddique May 09, 2017 05:48pm

@Chandra, I agree China should help India and Pakistan get into NSG. That will help improve the regional peace.

M. Siddique May 09, 2017 05:51pm

@Avik, Since when Indian goods have become expensive? With 45% poverty and cheap labor Indian goods can easily compete with China. Lack of self confidence is India's main problem.

Sachin May 09, 2017 05:56pm

Fellow Indians - please dont get too cocky and arrogance. Look at Chinese neutrally. They are neither generous giver nor they are dual faced players. Infact I will say look at Chinese a little positively and lessen the past ill-will.

Sudhir S S May 09, 2017 06:13pm

China is 13 years ahead huh . With this leadership and strong macroeconomic parameters, India will fill this gap in just next 3-5 years. We can't and shouldn't compromise on sovereignty issue for few more money .

NP May 09, 2017 06:14pm

@Zak, you are right, India would put its national interests on first place.

Proud. To be indian May 09, 2017 06:17pm

Fantastic India and China can grow big

brr May 09, 2017 06:28pm

Means very little. India gains nothing.

Akash May 09, 2017 06:31pm

China needs India much much more than India needs China .

sodawaterbottleopenerwala May 09, 2017 06:41pm

china has taken back its comments .no need to debate further .

DIL May 09, 2017 06:42pm

@VIRKAUL Regional Connectivity will benefits all of the countries involved since export inside the region will be a lot easier I thought it wouldn't be difficult to understand that's why didn't find the need to elaborate .

Indi rocks May 09, 2017 06:44pm

@sodawaterbottleopenerwala if what you say is true than it proves that China lacks self confidence.

sodawaterbottleopenerwala May 09, 2017 06:50pm

Thanks yes really china has taken back its remark by their ambassador.your trust in our attempt to forward truth is exemplary thanks DAWN .your pride in us can never equal our pride in DAWN

Viv's May 09, 2017 06:52pm

@Sudhir S S we may take 20 years, but that's fine. We don't want to push our people to get rich and spent nastily on useless stuff. While we learn to earn more, we must also learn to spend it well.

venob May 09, 2017 06:57pm

@Vasan Here's how it looks and more geopolitical power-play than current visibility. As clearly stated by an analyst, China is trying for alternative route as the current one is controlled by US. Since China's economy is heavily relies on it, US knows that it is the only way to tame dragon. Hence OBOR is born. China very well knows that it needs India backing for OBOR survival. With other bargaining chips it tried (UN perm, NSG...) it very well knows that India will never allow unless it is treated on-par along with US acknowledgement. The rest is just a noise.

Monsieur May 09, 2017 06:57pm

@masand do you really they care about your opinion???

Val May 09, 2017 06:59pm

@Patriot indian very true...100%...

amarendra May 09, 2017 07:00pm

@sky "India should keep aside ego and join the project to the extent of serving its interests. Completely staying out of the project seems rigid posture not accepting the reality of Chinese moving to the top of the World."

First how it is going to serve India's interest ? India has a large coastline & they have few dozens port like Gwadar to do business . Indian Ocean is largely peaceful unlike hotbed SCS .

Second China have understood India is not going to stop . Yes India is almost 15 years behind China, but not in the same class like Pakistan , Sri Lanka or African countries who are badly dependent on China loan . India is growing & there will be 3 super power in 2030 USA, China , India . This is reality . Chinese have understood it .

sodawaterbottleopenerwala May 09, 2017 07:03pm

@amarendra superbly put and rightly said matey .true and shining bright as sun .

Udhai May 09, 2017 07:08pm

@Truth triumph China economy is slowing down. So it won't be 13 yrs gap

Val May 09, 2017 07:09pm

@Sachin there is trust deficit with china vis a vis, NSG, UN security council , south china sea etc..

toris May 09, 2017 07:15pm

it clearly shows when there is a need the person will change his stand.

Zak May 09, 2017 07:53pm

@Zak india is isolating itself as Moodys has termed CPEC the project every country wants to join. India with its huge poverty and worsening economic condition will have to coming running to Pak-China to ask to join.

Zak May 09, 2017 07:58pm

@amarendra Good cop, bad cop strategy. China good offer to join for India, Pak bad cop, say resolve kashmir. China mediate, to join IOK in to Pakistan like AJK. India no choice. Poor can make limited decisions.

Zak May 09, 2017 08:20pm

@MG dear, with UN resolution, it will be resolved fairly by UN supervision, dear.

Gurpreet Singh May 09, 2017 08:34pm

It is absolutely not in India's interest to be a part of China's OBOR initiative. Of course China wants India to join the project since it wants unrestricted access to Indian market and add on to the $50 billion it earns from India every year in trade surplus. India has already started to cut down Chinese imports by imposing duties on on them & giving various incentives to boost local manufacturing. Economically China may be ahead of India as of now but India enjoys a demographic advantage over China with a much younger population compared to China and this will start reflecting in a few years.

wakeup May 09, 2017 08:36pm

India's economical/commercial interests won't be served by CPEC. India would be more interested in route from India-Pakistan-Afghanistan-Iran. This would help all the countries involved. Can we work on that?

vijay GOKHALE May 09, 2017 08:38pm

@ANT Get real bro, since when did rich and powerful nations consult any third world nation?

amarendra May 09, 2017 10:15pm

@Zak Yes super power Pakistan is yet to start mobile service in its largest province.

And Moody report puts Pakistan on B3 grade which is just above junk grade. Read the report thoroughly .

Secular May 09, 2017 11:06pm

@Shahryar Shirazi : Simply because Pakistan didn't exist when British invaded. Face Palm :D

Tolerancepays May 09, 2017 11:09pm

@Jeevan Hahaha...China's 60 bn is not sunk, Pakistan will pay back over the next 30 years which is nothing. One of the greatest rewards to Chinese is understanding on Gwadwr port which has important military implications. It's naval ships are already gathering there and you will see much more in due course. Just think before you write your comments.

Afzaal May 09, 2017 11:14pm

@Sipiq Explain how?

gknatarajan May 09, 2017 11:31pm

@M. Siddique get educated how china makes thier exports cheap to dominate other countries? 40 years before they started playing with exchange rates to make chinese goods cheap?appreciate now they have achieved?, first west, then japan goods were in prominance now chinese, but quality no way to compare. do not worry about even spurious goods to poor countries.!! compulsory labour camps were created in china,earleir days to make laour cheaper than any other country. now due to democraphic chamge they are facing problem, they have accepted it is politicaly a mistake to make it compulsory one child norm there. now they have reversed that policy!?

Paradas May 09, 2017 11:33pm

It all boil down to economics. In order to make CPEC economically viable, Chinese need the business with a larger economy like India to par-take. Good luck!

Afzaal May 09, 2017 11:44pm

@oricle That sounds bit too much to ask! Your leadership is failing because of the same mindset. Sitting in a stuffy hole and make comments on complex issues can not be helpful. Coming out in fresh air might help!

Pk May 09, 2017 11:51pm

@Zak Brother your knowledge on India and economics of the world is truely commendable.

T90 May 09, 2017 11:56pm

thanks but no thanks you keep your project and grow

Lootra May 10, 2017 12:28am

@Avik and Pakistan can compete with China and that is why joined CPEC??

Zak May 10, 2017 12:44am

@Mr Satyabrat D Singh read UN version not what is falsely fed to you in your education system. I have explained it many times, search it on Dawn.

Indi rocks May 10, 2017 12:57am

@amarendra some people love to live in delusions.

adil Siddiqui May 10, 2017 01:01am

Never trust communist. China has proven time and again they can bite you after saying they are friends. May 10, 2017 01:08am

India Pakistan should accept the Line of Control in Kashmir and move forward to improve social @ cultural values of their respective societies.

Populism is not progressive

Abe May 10, 2017 01:10am

China is aware that CPEC gives opportunity for India to exploit South China Sea with the help of US on the pretext ... You violate our sovereignty .we will ensure it is reciprocated

Zak May 10, 2017 01:12am

'India still has reservations over the OBOR, saying that the CPEC passes through Azad Jammu & Kashmir, raising sovereignty concerns.'

This can be resolved by UN resolution on kashmir plebiscite. Once kashmiris vote to join pakistan, there will be no issue for india to make irrelevant internal drama on.

HAMAD SIDDIQUI May 10, 2017 01:38am

@karachi wally , If this was the case mere bhai then they would not have another initiative called BCIM. Read up on it. The only OBOR project India is opposed of is CPEC.

chang woo May 10, 2017 01:49am

why do you indians still thing ill of china/we offered you the olive branch and you dont want to take it// again lets get together and work as a team //china//pakistan which is our allweafher friend and india ///

chang woo May 10, 2017 02:09am

@Sipiq /we need to work together and be friends india/ pakistan /china//for our sucess and the next step is to sit together and come to common terms on the issues that we disagree on tell we all build trust and gradually sort it out where the countries need not lose any sleep///its good for all of us to work as one////

J USA May 10, 2017 03:44am

@Alfatmi ,...know they want? LOL

Whoareyouagain? May 10, 2017 04:09am

@JA-Australia so? Can you elaborate? All they are doing is requesting India to join as they know without India, CPAC will not be successful. What's point of CPAC, If china can't reach next door 1+billion people market. China knows it has to put lot of effort and investment to reach similar size market in west. China is second guessing its CPAC investment now.

Whoareyouagain? May 10, 2017 04:15am

@GYhindd ..."if it doesn't join CPAC, it will be 25 yrs"... so be it.

Whoareyouagain? May 10, 2017 04:16am

@Mubashir ul hassan ..what in this article made you think China knows more about India?

Whoareyouagain? May 10, 2017 04:41am

@Taimoor khan ...don't worry we will take the carrot and stick it in them!

Whoareyouagain? May 10, 2017 04:43am

@aleem what options do they have when their entire investment is going down the drain

DV May 10, 2017 05:29am

@oricle, you took my words and this is what India wants and should have done.

Sahil May 10, 2017 06:15am

One belt one road will lead to nowhere unless it leads to India which will overtake China in population and has a booming economy. And the Chinese know that very well.

Faisal Afzal May 10, 2017 06:31am

This is a real oppertunity for India to go all in and start thinking about the entire region and not just itself. You can't surround yourself with poverty or as Modi would put it..."starve neighbors of water" and expect yourself to be progressive with no backlash from any corner. India need to think like a big power to become one.

amarendra May 10, 2017 06:31am

Till now not a single convincing answer how CPEC is going to serve India's interest or it will act as a booster to India's already 7.5% economy growth.

Only way CPEC/ OBOR can be helpful to India is if it gives SECURE access to Kabul via road route. India is ready to pay whatever toll charges applicable . Will China & Pakistan allow this ?

Uday Kulkarni May 10, 2017 06:45am

@Jeevan - You hit the nail, my friend. So true.

Vishal May 10, 2017 06:54am

China knows how important it is that India joins as otherwise this CPEC will not be much beneficial

Akbar Sethi May 10, 2017 07:05am

China will do whats good for China. India will be soon three Americas' in its market size. Chinese can just trade with India and forget about the world. Indians are maniacs for consumer goods and Chinese goods, food and products. Some of them even eat pork & drink Green Tea.

PAK-OZ May 10, 2017 10:16am

introduce bollywood to china they will love u.

jamal May 10, 2017 12:00pm

China is the businessmen who sells to both sides of the table. Way to go.

niks May 10, 2017 12:02pm

@PAK-OZ introduce bollywood to china they will love u.

They already do.. dangal has earned 100 crore now its bahubali's turn

niks May 10, 2017 12:06pm

@chang woo i will tell you why Indians are reserved about china.

veto of mansood azhar

aksai chin

border incursions

part of kashmir held by China

Interference in Arunachal's internal affair.

India recommended china for UNSC seat , but china refuses to do so for india after 60 years.

Indian membership to NSG.

china has been blocking Indian development like a jealous girl. introspect you would get the reasons.

niks May 10, 2017 12:09pm

@Zak are yaar enough of your rhetoric . go to UN website and read it yourself before educating others.

MUMBAI MAN May 10, 2017 12:41pm

The way Chinese economy is getting a riskier venture, we can hope more conciliatory overtures towards India from China...its almost inevitable now.

BAXAR May 10, 2017 01:11pm

@gknatarajan " first west, then japan goods were in prominance now chinese, but quality no way to compare." Sony products are extremely good quality, but I can't afford. Chinese products are not so good, but that's the best I can afford easily. Do you need to be a genius to guess which one I'll buy? China has built it's power by providing products that fulfill larger number of people's need. Please continue buying very high quality western and Japanese expensive products, that is the best way to fight China. Whether China looses the war or not, you'll make Japanese and western businessman extremely happy.

Viv's May 10, 2017 01:40pm

@Faisal Afzal Your advice is little sensible. However, it lacks introspection to a great degree!

sass May 10, 2017 01:49pm

no belt no road. move out

RAVEENDRA NATH May 10, 2017 01:54pm

ZAKABOUT 18 HOURS AGO "@Zak india is isolating itself as Moodys has termed CPEC the project every country wants to join. India with its huge poverty and worsening economic condition will have to coming running to Pak-China to ask to join". ZAK is right as always. Even Latin American countries want to join CPEC and share the benefits. Pakistan's current GDP growth of about 3 will will jump to about 15 when India's will remain about 7.5 only.

BAXAR May 10, 2017 02:03pm

@gknatarajan " get educated how china makes thier exports cheap to dominate other countries?" Before them, the big powers were producing very expensive products only rich people could afford. So they needed a lot of very rich people everywhere. To have many very rich people in a country, there have to be corruption, that creates a lot of poverty. Now China aims to reverse the trend. They need a huge number of comfortable people around the world, to buy cheap adequate products. Obviously that will decrease the number of very rich people automatically. That is against the interest of current dominating powers.

Well Meaning May 10, 2017 02:45pm

@PAK-OZ good suggestion though

Avinash May 10, 2017 03:16pm

China first tried doing CPEC by challenging india , but realised that it is not a good idea , however india should negotiate for more.

kuNAL MAJUMDAR May 10, 2017 03:40pm

@PAK-OZ: You are right. PK did 100 crores (BTW, Indian Rupee). Dangal to cross that soon. You are free to do the fact check.

kuNAL MAJUMDAR May 10, 2017 03:46pm

@chang woo: Appreciate your matured response. But the fact is India & China has a substantial trust deficit. And it will take time to overcome. As your ex-envoy said 'China First", similarly India has to think from its own perspective. BTW, we appreciate the invitation from China.

Amjad May 10, 2017 04:43pm

At the end, India will join CEPEC, sooner or later. China is smart, he know how to deal with Asian.

Raj KUMAR May 10, 2017 05:10pm

@Faisal Afzal mere bhai,it should add benefit to us?commercials are of great importance for any deal.My understanding is as below. 1.Sea route is cheapest,so why should India import or export thru Gwador which will create additional charges and paper work.200 km down the line i think is Mumbai and other ports in Gujarat. 2.If we need to buy/sell anything from/to China,we ourself have long borders with them which connects their eastern part directly which is their major consumption and production point.Why go thru Cpec route.

BAXAR May 10, 2017 05:16pm

@Amjad "China is smart, he know how to deal with Asian." Just check the results of South Korea's election. Look at the intentions of president elect.

torontonian May 10, 2017 06:41pm

This is how emerging super powers act like. Not like our Eastern neighbor that is short and little in everything except size and population. Good Initiative China.

Altaf ahemed ansari May 10, 2017 06:42pm

@Sachin Then where comes Pakistan and India?

TrueIndianPatriot May 10, 2017 08:32pm

@Chandra Absolutely! true.

TrueIndianPatriot May 10, 2017 08:34pm

@thanks but no thanks Absolutely! true.

TrueIndianPatriot May 10, 2017 08:46pm

@Amjad India is no less smart. Even our business mind PM knows how to deal business with business.

TrueIndianPatriot May 10, 2017 08:52pm

@niks well said niks! that's true on one hand China sugarcoats India into saying that they would like to see India grow and other side it dumps India on all these major concerns that India raise. So why should we believe China?

TrueIndianPatriot May 10, 2017 08:57pm

@Faisal Afzal not convincing! something fishy from china. India must be cautious before making any decision on China's proposal.

LAHORI KID May 11, 2017 12:05am

@Arun, Likewise, said the Pakistanis and China

LAHORI KID May 11, 2017 12:11am

If anyone believes that China is doing everything to benefit Pakistan and surrounding nations and not thinking about China being their number one priority is foolish. I cannot blame China to think that way, they are investing a great deal of money, its only fair they consider their benefits first.As for Pakistan and India relations, China will not side with either one, China needs both countries in order for it to work as they planned. If you are one of the people who think that China will dump India over Pakistan, you are headed for disappointment. At the end of the day, all three countries need to workout their differences, and there are many, for the betterment of almost 3 BILLION people, get working on the solutions rather than constant focus on the negatives.

LoveArmyPAK May 11, 2017 11:05am

@TrueIndianPatriot yes, it's at the NY port.

NaradA Muni May 11, 2017 11:26am

@Udhai : It was 13 years gap in 2012. Now it is only 7 years gap. Predicted to be even by 2025.

ISMAIL PUKHTOON May 11, 2017 11:59am

@ANT Pakistan already invited India

kuNAL MAJUMDAR May 11, 2017 12:38pm

@Amjad: It's just that India is smarter. Ask the Chinese yourself.

rabinazariwala May 11, 2017 12:38pm

Chinese are not trustworthy.

AW May 11, 2017 01:41pm

CPEC would become a big success if India joins it as well and for that to happen, both India and Pakistan would need to resolve outstanding issues between them. Great possibilities and opportunities are in the offing for making Asia #1 in the world if China, Pakistan and India can rise above their territorial disputes

sridhar May 11, 2017 03:37pm

@Mubashir ul hassan You are assuming 'China' and 'India' are individuals

Kumar May 11, 2017 03:38pm

"China has no intention to get involved in the sovereignty and territorial disputes between India and Pakistan." That is very reassuring to hear. When two big nations clash, the people are the ones that suffer.

mohammad modi May 11, 2017 04:56pm

@Shahid bhat kashmiri correctly pointed out, Kashmir should get the revenue, every one is silent on that.

HZR May 11, 2017 05:17pm

For some reason China in its wisdom considers Pakistan as a better economic and strategic partner than India and now to expect a reversal of this situation sounds a little suspect

Mahesh May 12, 2017 05:21am

@Ahaq so you are smarter than modi!!!

akram May 12, 2017 02:27pm

@kevin for trade between western china and western india, the route through Pakistan will be shorter, quicker and thus cheaper. Besides it is also a route through to central asia, either via China or Afghanistan.

akram May 12, 2017 02:58pm

@Ben you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Zak May 13, 2017 07:25am

@RAVEENDRA NATH Argentina and Chile attending CPEC and OBOR merting in Beijing. Read any media but yours.

Zak May 13, 2017 07:29am

@niks have to explain again as obviously you have not read it. There are 21 clauses of the resolution, 2 for Pakistan, 2 jointly for pakistan and India and 17 for india, which Shows who has done more wrong.akistan complied with both , India has not complied with even one. Hence the indian obstacle in finally resolving Kashmir by UN.