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Formula for new NSG members leaves Pakistan out: US group

Updated Dec 28, 2016 02:21pm


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WASHINGTON: A draft proposal for accepting new members into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) paves the way for India’s entry but leaves Pakistan out, says a US-based arms control organisation.

The Arms Control Association (ACA), Washington, also warns that relaxing membership rules will undermine non-proliferation.

Last week, the US media reported that Rafael Mariano Grossi, a former chairman of the NSG, had prepared a two-page document, explaining how a non-NPT state, like India and Pakistan, could join the group. Mr Grossi was acting on behalf of the current chairman, Song Young-wan of South Korea, and his document enjoys a semi-official status.

To prevent India from blocking Pakistan from joining the NPT, Mr Grossi’s draft note proposes that “one non-NPT member state should reach an understanding not to block consensus on membership for another non-NPT member state”.

But ACA’s executive director, Daryl Kimball, warns that “Pakistan still has grounds to object to the formula outlined by Mr Grossi”. He explains that the document will require Pakistan to meet the same criteria for membership as India “but, to engage in civil nuclear trade with NSG states, it would have to win a separate NSG exemption from the full-scope safeguards requirement”.

The 48-nation NSG is a nuclear technology control organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test, which used plutonium produced with nuclear technology from Canada and the United States. The NSG seeks to prevent similar future misuses.

Current NSG membership rules require a state to sign the nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) before joining this exclusive club. India remains one of only three countries, with Israel and Pakistan, never to have signed the NPT.

Earlier this year, India formally applied for membership and was followed by Pakistan. The United States, and a host of other powerful western nations, back India’s application, but China and half a dozen other nations are blocking India’s membership, which requires a consensus of all members.

India had hoped to join the group during NSG’s last plenary session, held in Seoul in June this year, but the meeting ended without taking any decision on New Delhi’s application.

Several countries expressed concerns over India’s entry because it had not yet signed the NPT. China led the efforts to block India’s membership.

After the plenary, the new chairman asked Mr Grossi to work out a proposal for admitting new members. The proposal he prepared also addressed the India-Pakistan dispute, acknowledging that both countries had “political reasons” for blocking each other’s membership.

But Mr Kimball points out that Grossi’s formula allows India to claim that it has already undertaken the steps necessary for membership, “which could then lead to a decision on membership for India, while still leaving Pakistan in a different status”.

The proposal requires a non-NPT state to declare that it has brought into force a clear and strict separation of current and future civilian nuclear facilities from non-civilian nuclear facilities and is willing to apply this principle to future facilities as well.

The new member also needs to assure NSG that it has provided and maintains a declaration to the IAEA that identifies all current and future civilian nuclear facilities.

The applicant also needs to assure NSG that it has enforced a safeguards agreement with the IAEA covering all declared civilian facilities and all future civilian facilities which the IAEA determines are eligible for safeguards.

Published in Dawn, December 28th, 2016


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baba Dec 28, 2016 08:34am

Doe sit matter, Pakistan should do anything Pakistan want to , no need membership, as Trump said , these people get gather and talk

shuaib Dec 28, 2016 09:01am

pakistan and India both should be accepted as members or declined for NSG.

klp Dec 28, 2016 09:05am

The world favors the mighty.

GK Dec 28, 2016 09:09am

This is not fair. Pak should end ties with USA and go with China-Russia...

Samrat Dec 28, 2016 09:11am

Music to the ears.

Samrat Dec 28, 2016 09:13am

Interesting to see PAK reaction.

DK PAMNANI Dec 28, 2016 09:23am

Yes, India will now be a member of NSG. 100%

Shaukat Ali Khan Dec 28, 2016 09:32am

This hypocrite world doesn't want to understand that Pakistan's nuclear assets and materials have already proven to be the most safe in the world with no nuclear related incidents. All other nuclear states have had nuclear incidents with America in lead. In case of India, two persons have been recently caught while carrying nuclear material and this is not the first such incident in India.

Kannadiga Dec 28, 2016 09:35am

Good News!!!

Amad Arshad Dec 28, 2016 09:42am

Ohhhhh No.

سے Shaam (Hanafi) Dec 28, 2016 09:44am


Shishir Dec 28, 2016 09:44am

A group of nations perfected their nuclear arsenal, gave technology to their friendly nations, and then decided to put restrictions on others.

Turthpays Dec 28, 2016 09:45am

Wait and watch, India will clinch it soon.

flipflop Dec 28, 2016 09:54am

What's the significance of NSG ? What exactly does it help to achieve ? Will it give a country full control to use nuclear bombs or what ? I still do t understand why Pakistan and India are trying so hard to lobby their way in to this.

mkb Dec 28, 2016 10:16am

Right decision.

Iqbal Bhai Dec 28, 2016 10:47am

Dual standards. A formula specifically designed to oust one nation and include another.

Aslam Shaikh Dec 28, 2016 11:09am

@Shaukat Ali Khan Good try, but it will not work

M Waseem K Dec 28, 2016 11:08am

@Samrat forget it - not gonna happen

Truth Dec 28, 2016 11:10am

@TURTHPAYS : Truthpays

Asif Akbar Dec 28, 2016 11:28am

@GK And there might come a time when the same will be thought for them. As we never think of depending and developing on our own.

Kerala Dec 28, 2016 11:38am

Good News!!!

Bhola Bhala Dec 28, 2016 12:03pm


Ending ties with the US might affect the business, education, job opportunity and immigration for Pakistanis in that country. No right minded people will prefer China and Russia over the US for opportunity seekers.

Bashir kashmiri Dec 28, 2016 12:23pm

Pakistan should stop playing spoiler if it doesnt have capacity of its own then it should rather focus on bulding it rather than creating obstacles on the countries who have it..

Samrat Dec 28, 2016 12:38pm

@M Waseem K time will tell and even you know it.

Samrat Dec 28, 2016 12:38pm

@M Waseem K heard that many a times before on many different issues.

Harsh Dec 28, 2016 12:39pm

@Shaukat Ali Khan nice story

salma Dec 28, 2016 01:02pm

PAKISTAN should not join this group... The Nuclear Supplier Group (NSG) is a 48-nation club committed to limiting nuclear arms proliferation by overseeing the export, re-transfer and protection of sensitive materials that could foster nuclear weapons development.

It was formed in 1974 following the India's nuclear test, which demonstrated that nuclear technology transferred for peaceful purposes could be used to build nuclear weapons.

Guidelines for the group were published in 1978 by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), which were to be applied to nuclear transfers for peaceful purposes to help ensure that such transfers would not fall victim to a harmful nuclear fuel cycle or be used in nuclear explosive activities. The aim of the NSG Guidelines is to ensure that nuclear trade for peaceful purposes does not pave way to the proliferation of nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices ..

Satwant Dec 28, 2016 01:28pm

@Shaukat Ali Khan NOT TRUE

Lafanga Dec 28, 2016 01:53pm

Come on people. Its just a draft proposal and that too by ex chairman. It may carry some weight but it needs to be accepted by China and half dozen other countries to get thru.

Sameer Dec 28, 2016 01:53pm

And this is what the world has come to. A group made explicibly to deter nuclear proliferation will now handout a membership card to the very country for actions it vowed to defend against.

M. Asghar Dec 28, 2016 02:21pm

Practically,there is no other way but for both India and Pakistan to be or not to be the memebers of NSG at the same time.

Meera Dec 28, 2016 02:25pm

China will veto to help Pakistan. Long live Pak China friendship.

sp Dec 28, 2016 02:33pm

Pak is accused of providing nuclear technology to North Korea and Iran. Because of this historic blunder, it would be impossible for Pak to join NSG

Ahsan Dec 28, 2016 02:31pm

Is it a deliberate decision?

Junaid Ahmad Dec 28, 2016 02:31pm

Dont worry dears... Pakistan is going to become a member of NSG very soon... Just wait and watch...this was already predicted...nothing to worry...

Zealot Dec 28, 2016 02:38pm

He explains that the document will require Pakistan to meet the same criteria for membership as India “but, to engage in civil nuclear trade with NSG states, it would have to WIN A SEPARATE NSG EXEMPTION FROM FULL SCOPE SAFEGUARDS REQUIRMENTS

Can anyone explain as to ON WHAT GROUNDs Pakistan is required to Win Separate NSG exemption from Full scope Safeguards requirements and WHY AND ON WHAT GROUNDS INDIA IS EXEMPTED FROM SUCH CLAUSE?

2-Second Regarding IAEA Safeguards standards.Then The same newspaper many Times reported that IAEA praised our Nuclear Safety standard Even US too.So No point of Include Such Meaningless clauses.Pakistan deserves more Place than India Does in NSG regarding Qualification on Safety Standards

THINKING Dec 28, 2016 02:43pm

@flipflop Pakistan wants it, just because India wants it. They dont even know what to do with the NSG membership

hassan Dec 28, 2016 02:47pm

Without disapproval from one member, India can't get this membership. Turkey, China & 6 other nations are still on NO side. Lets see

Sympathiser Dec 28, 2016 03:02pm

@shuaib don't ever think of equating Pakistan with India bcz the two are in a different levels in all respects

Khan Dec 28, 2016 03:02pm

This should be the end of our ties and cooperation with USA.

Law of jungle Dec 28, 2016 03:07pm

Reliability is built over long term consistent performance

kumar Anil. Dec 28, 2016 03:13pm

India has no need of NSG, U.S,Canada,Russia,Australia,France and Japan are openly transferring, technology, training, and fission, fissile tech.NSG is matter of ego...

Dsm Dec 28, 2016 03:12pm

Nothing is there in NSG for both india and Pakistan, they shud concentrate on development and poverty issues of their countries

ishan Dec 28, 2016 03:13pm

I am from India and I don't want war. I just want peace between all countries.

Shahid Dec 28, 2016 03:17pm

Usually 'on behalf of' does not carry or enjoy the same weight as the real one. There is nothing to be excited about at this stage.

Shaukat Ali Khan Dec 28, 2016 03:23pm


2 persons caught with chemical materials in India as recent as last week, Sir jee.

Shaukat Ali Khan Dec 28, 2016 03:21pm

@Aslam Shaikh

It is a fact, not try, Sir.

Shaukat Ali Khan Dec 28, 2016 03:23pm

@Anusri Tripathi

it is not a matter of trust, it is enmity with the Muslim world, Sir.

Zak Dec 28, 2016 03:23pm

We don need NSG. We are getting lot of investment in CPEC. We are very proud of it.

Rehman Dec 28, 2016 03:29pm

Pakistan should protest and stop India from getting NSG membership. Either both should get it, or neither.

Ajay Dec 28, 2016 03:31pm

@flipflop To me it is an attempt to have enough electricity without environmental pollution and without surrendering national freedom of action.

citizen Dec 28, 2016 03:38pm

China should prepare a similar document to admit only Pakisthan in NSG and dismiss the application of India...

Desipardesi Dec 28, 2016 03:43pm

@flipflop I don't see what the big fuss about this NSG is all about. Nobody cares in the rest of the world about this. Ind and Pak are obsessed with this petty matter. Focus your energies elsewhere. If this was a big deal, it would be mentioned in civilized world. Anycase, very good for India...

Zulfiqar Jakhrani Dec 28, 2016 03:43pm

There is nothing new, the tilt of the world is always to might. The question of chances of Pakistan to become NSG member is zero due to number of factors.

Masoud Dec 28, 2016 03:51pm

Pakistan should not worry much about NSG, Pakistan should move forward on fast track towards achieving self sufficiency in power & export. Militarily Pakistan is in a secured zone. CPEC will further enhance its capabilities. Once Pakistan is secured financially & is free from terrorism all countries will favour Pakistan in all international forums & clubs including NSG.

L. H. Zaidi Dec 28, 2016 04:13pm

@GK A country headed by corrupt leaders never had any credibility or will have any respect or influence. So-called relationship with China or any other country exists till their national interests require. May I remind you the times Pakistan was a pocket watch of USA, what is toda?

Yechuri Dec 28, 2016 04:15pm

It is only a formality for India as India already has agreement with almost all important nuclear supplier countries except china. Only thing India geta ia the ability to sell its nuclear reactors to others and help its economy

Hyder Dec 28, 2016 04:19pm


All these so called clubs and organisations are waste of time and energy.

Pakistan is first Muslim nuclear state and we are proud of this fact!!!


J Dec 28, 2016 04:34pm

This ia key: india always beeaking rules.

"The 48-nation NSG is a nuclear technology control organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test, which used plutonium produced with nuclear technology from Canada and the United States. The NSG seeks to prevent similar future misuses."

Zak Dec 28, 2016 04:35pm

Thank you China for helping us.

Vikram Sood Dec 28, 2016 04:40pm

It would have been a different story if Pakistan collaborated with India, maybe its not too late still.

Love Your Country Dec 28, 2016 04:38pm

The 'world' wants to control Pakistan and not India - something we haven't understood.

Zik Dec 28, 2016 04:41pm

Kudos to NSG for plans to let in the world's greatest democracy.

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 04:44pm

@GK Ending ties would be an extreme step and could harm. Pakistan must adapt a balanced policy towards these nations and apply diplomatic routes when issues arise with any of them.

Khwarezmi Dec 28, 2016 04:49pm

NSG status is vital for our national interests. We can not allow India to get a membership while we are left outside as India will then veto all future Pakistani membership. This so-called document will not stop that. We must continue to work closely with our allies like China on this very important issue.

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 04:49pm

@Shaukat Ali Khan Trade interests do effect which way things move!

aslam shaikh1 Dec 28, 2016 04:50pm

Just a label

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 04:57pm

Despite this news item bringing charm India will be kept in limbo for a while until bigger issues among bigger nations get sorted. And when they are ready to abandon Pakistan which at the moment even US does not want for security reasons if not for trade.

Vague Buster Dec 28, 2016 05:02pm

@klp Not the world, lords favoring their slaves

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 05:07pm

@flipflop As I understand a member has unlimited access to nuclear technology and to sell the same. NSG also want the members to have qualified for it and abide by rules of the group. In that way both Pakistan and India with demonstrable nuclear capability should be given membership to keep these country stay with in the rules. Membership to One only will encourage undesirable nuclear activities by the other in a clandestine manner.

Isabhai Surat wala Dec 28, 2016 05:08pm

Will I get the(bread) to eat because a poor man if india becomes the member of NSG......

indian muslim Dec 28, 2016 05:11pm

China and half a dozen other nations are blocking India’s membership, which requires a consensus of all members. Good Luck Modi

A.Jabbar doha Dec 28, 2016 05:11pm

@Isabhai Surat wala ... yes... all will get bread.... India is using all energies to build power generation for industry and agriculture. Not to show military might.

Guest Dec 28, 2016 05:18pm

@Isabhai Surat wala "Will I get the(bread) to eat because a poor man if india becomes the member of NSG......" Going by your post you already have more than enough.

FFF Dec 28, 2016 05:22pm

If we don't get our way then let's change the rule of the games to suit our way - laws of discrimination practiced by the reckoned powers. Bravo,well done. Then theyll complain why are they against us.

Faqira Dec 28, 2016 05:22pm

Hypocrisy backed by hypocrite countries.

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 06:00pm

@Yechuri You got it. Yes it is to do with economy. India has enhanced its credentials in the Paris conference and now wants to justify not only import of clean nuclear energy technology with vital transfers but also permission to sell it to other countries at cheaper rates once it has masterminded the relevent products and painted them with Indian colour. China wants to prevent that happening because it wants to sell its products while Pakistan can also join in at a latter stage and lesser scale. So in a way China is preventing both India & Pakistan but with good reason. So India in future will plan to buy expensive but sell cheaper to a sizeable customers and make money. Just as it has invested in space technology....getting technology from others and hoping to expand its export of launching satellites to developing countries apart from the fact that this facility is currently being used as a cheap taxi service by advanced nations who want to save for more advanced research.

Zealot Dec 28, 2016 05:59pm

We should mourn our diplomatic efforts.such people who dont know that there is no atmoic submarines in planet,such people who are buying outdated f16s from US,ignoring the fact that Turkey is best option,such people who are visiting India At HOA despite so much humiliation,and you expect them to make efforts on NSG.And to prove their credibilty there are proving that Pakistan is a responsible Nuclear state....MY CONDOLENCES WITH MY COUNTRYMEN


WELL DONE SARTAJ AZIZ,Aitzaz Chaudhry,Tasneem Aslam and your other brothers and sisters!!!

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 06:04pm

@salma Do you mean Pakistan should not join the group or Pakistan should not be allowed to join?

Dr. SalariA, Aamir Ahmad Dec 28, 2016 06:04pm

What a serious joke by these so-called "movers and shakers" with their own bias and prejudice at top?

kuladeep Dec 28, 2016 06:15pm

Indian & Pakistan both No need to join NSG. Without joining also how India is doing lot of business with nuclear fuel... with USA\RUS\Canada.. ? and also India is doing lot of research on thorium as india has huge thorium reserve

PinkPeacock Dec 28, 2016 06:16pm

India is welcome to sit in American lap, which in fact is a trap. All those non-white nations including Pakistan, Iran, , , , have suffered from 'true' American 'friendship'. Modi is a short-sighted tiny-minded T-boy incapable of understanding 'the game'. Americans are pumping air into him to make him think that he is BIG, while on the contrary he is only being 'inflated' in order to prepare him to serve American designs in South Asia and particularly against China. The manner in which China is gaining strength and influence, US like many similar past misadventures, is going to be forced to abandon this one too. Currently, they have criminally messed up in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Syria , , , , the list goes on. Modi is totally blind. He is diving in with both feet - eyes, ears and minds shut. It's not good for India and not good for the Region.

SAEED MASOOD Dec 28, 2016 06:25pm

This must be America blocking Pakistan, In this area a new powerful group is taking birth Pakistan, China , Russia, just a few day ago they had a very important meeting on Afghanistan with India and America not invited. Long live Pakistan and it real friends InshahAllah.

indian muslim Dec 28, 2016 06:25pm

China will never let that happen period

khanm Dec 28, 2016 06:34pm

For any organisation there must be a certain criteria for selecting its member, if there is none. it becomes an exclusive club for bullies only. by the way we have never defined any criteria for any organization established in our own country. let us fix our own back yard first. Folks..To use for their exclusive benefit what is not their is theft...welcome to an exclusive new world order.. where people are gauged according to their race, ethnicity and religion..

Zealot Dec 28, 2016 06:37pm

Pakistan is a responsible nuclear state

Pakistan nuclear assets are secure.

I guess such statements are costing us in Join NSG

Zak Dec 28, 2016 06:45pm

Our dearest friend China will never allow India to let in NSG until we ask them

Samrat Dec 28, 2016 06:48pm

@PinkPeacock worry about yourself, we're well capable to look for our interests.

Veer Singh Dec 28, 2016 06:57pm

Joining NSG will be good for both India & Pakistan but both countries should apply on their own merits. India has already said that it will not oppose Pakistan's entry to the NSG

MAA Dec 28, 2016 07:07pm

Pakistani Governments internal political problems and poor external approach is the main reason for Pakistan being excluded from the NSG. Nawaz Shareef should have resigned to lift its image in the world. Unfortunately no one cares for Pakistan. All are corrupt and therefore unpatriotic.

AKKS Dec 28, 2016 07:08pm

@PinkPeacock, Thank you for your alert and warnings.

Ayub Dec 28, 2016 07:23pm

Pakistan should abandon the ego of making unnecessary competition with India. However, competition in the fight against poverty, ignorance, and corruption should continue.

Global Peace Dec 28, 2016 07:31pm

@flipflop just things will get a bit cheaper nothing else. India already have a waiver and already producing a lot nuclear power with this can opt for more cheaper technology.

Afzaal Dec 28, 2016 07:51pm

@Ayub Whether or not Partition was a good idea requires a separate debate. But once it became a reality rules were broken and Indian transigence was very clear from very beginning...Kashmir issue to dismembering Pakistan. So this competition with India has been written in our psyche as a means of survival and protecting what remains of Pakistan. And it will not be without a cost because of the adversary being several time more resourced. We have already achieved nukes capability which has helped neutralise Indian threat and unless India is prepared to have a dialogue which is face saving to both we must continue to work towards protecting the values we stand for.

KROME Dec 28, 2016 07:58pm

Both countries should stay out NSG which believes in Nuclear Aparthied .

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 07:57pm

Not to worry as long as our all weather friends are there. These people are just setting themselves up for another humiliation at the hands of our all weather friends.

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 07:57pm


'The world favors the mighty.'

Yes, and in the previous rounds we found out who the might is with.

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 08:00pm


'Wait and watch, India will clinch it soon.'

The point is not to clinch it but clinch it without Pakistan, which is not going to happen.

Muzaffar Ali Dec 28, 2016 08:03pm

Everyone pushes the is a universal law.....

What should Pakistan do?

Add value to human capital. Nothing more powerful than that.

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 08:03pm

This trial balloon would be shot down by China and Turkey, just like the previous ones.

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 08:03pm


'Right decision.'

It would be the right decision, when China speaks.

Mohammad S. Khalid Dec 28, 2016 08:09pm

Draft means just a preliminary version of a document. It does not deserve so much attention.

Mustafa R. Dec 28, 2016 08:07pm


'Pak is accused of providing nuclear technology to North Korea and Iran.'

So what? the West is accused of providing nuclear technology to India and Israel.

Syed Daniyal ahmed Dec 28, 2016 08:10pm

The only way to achieve peace in this world is to provide justice to every country and each and every citizens of this world. Trying this old concept of not treating everyone will lead to chaos and trouble in this world. And I am also against the concept of veto power to certain countries and not all the countries. For once I agree with Donald trump. The UN is useless in addition to being hypocrite.

Akbar Dec 28, 2016 08:12pm

@Rehman is this fair enough? You should impress world powers with responsible behavior and fair image.

SN Dec 28, 2016 08:10pm

If for a moment we keep aside the politics.

India has made good progress in developing thorium reactors. India in collaboration with US, Russia and China can perfect this technology. There will be gain for the whole world. Hence the world needs India in NSG.

In my opinion, if any other country also has something new and useful, can be considered to be in NSG. Purely on merit. And set guidelines. And track record.

Iqbal Hadi Zaidi Dec 28, 2016 08:12pm

Mabrook! Another feather added into the cap. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi

Something Fishy Dec 28, 2016 08:30pm

......organisation formed in 1975 in response to India’s first nuclear weapon test.......

And it is Pakistan for all blames!

sayed ghayyoor ali shah Dec 28, 2016 08:41pm

@Dsm yes you are right sir more than half of population has been suffering from food shortage, living problems, social discriminations, sectarism, nepotism, terrorism etc..... so we should focus on promoting peace process rather than discussing NSG ...

Sami Dec 28, 2016 08:50pm

@Shaukat Ali Khan where did u get this info. Can u please share it.

Bishumullaah Dec 28, 2016 09:01pm

@baba a good way to think.

Bishumullaah Dec 28, 2016 09:03pm

@GK A good idea.

Ayub Dec 28, 2016 09:44pm

@Afzaal EastPakistan was dismembered not by India. The alliance of East and West was unnatural. Sooner or later it was due to happen. East Pakistan was separated due to our discrimination with the Bangles. The western side and more particularly the Punjabis were not willing to accept their victory and mandate in the election. As far as Kashmir is concerned, it is an international issue and Pakistan is unnecessarily taking it on its shoulders. It is the responsibility of the UN and OIC to remind their responsibilities and listen to the demands of the people of Kashmir.

hzr Dec 28, 2016 09:59pm

@GK Good suggestion and should act quickly on this..

Syed Chishti Dec 28, 2016 10:26pm

If India doesn't sign NPT, it mustn't be admitted in the NSG.

Cyco Dec 28, 2016 10:22pm

@Shishir exactly.. Thats why India chose to not sign NPT.

SKG Dec 28, 2016 10:48pm

@PinkPeacock Thank you very much for your advise. You really know who is true friend, don't worry about others.

Test Cricket Dec 28, 2016 10:58pm

History teaches a lesson : it had never been fair!!

Accept and move forward with a lesson!!

NaveEd Dec 28, 2016 11:44pm

Stance from china turkey and others : sign NPT or dont bother trying to get in to NSG.pakistan will enter NSG with india or both wont.

Jafar Abbas Dec 28, 2016 11:47pm

N.S.G. management should realise that biased behaviour with other countries wil create problems. It must be realised that non-member of such group is not bound to fulfil restored requirements for safe handling of such material.

Zak Dec 28, 2016 11:51pm

@klp neither india or pakistan are mighty, both poor and economically deficient.

Zak Dec 28, 2016 11:49pm

In the end Pakistan will become a member.

flipflop Dec 28, 2016 11:58pm

@Ajay If that is the case then why even bother with this ? India and Pakistan already have nuclear plants and are making electricity without any international pressure. I think it has become political rather than actually working for the country and this attitude will drown Pakistan and India.

flipflop Dec 29, 2016 12:05am

@Afzaal Well Pakistan has been using Nuclear related products for decades amd no one cares. Becoming a me ever of this institution will only lock us and force us to abide by the rules. In near future I can see this institution limiting the number of Nuclear plants per country which could work against us. In my opinion this has no significance to Pakistan and it has become more of a political matter in an attempt to show other countries that we matter. Honestly, instead of wasting time on this we must focus on things that would help Pakistan grow such as education, and health.

Jigar USA Dec 29, 2016 03:36am

So happy to learn this on dawn news.

vorshal Dec 29, 2016 05:28am

@Zak - Or it may never become one!

yuñus Dec 29, 2016 06:47am

we don't need NSG membership. with CPEC we will be superpower, ahead of USA ànd Russia by 2018. then this NSG members will come running to us to accept NSG membership. just wait for game changer CPEC, our EVERY problem will be solved.

Nuanced Dec 29, 2016 07:01am

Whats the big fuss about NSG membership for India? I fail to understand especially India is already having tech transfer deals with Russia/US and Japan

sivramkisen Dec 29, 2016 08:00am

@kumar Anil. so right.

alla bux Dec 29, 2016 08:35am

It is no fair!

Sk Dec 29, 2016 09:00am

One should understand why India is not signing the NSG today. India has highlighted the inherent discriminatory clauses that accept who a nuclear power can be and cannot accept that the 5 countries who are also UN permanent s council members are the only ones who can test and deploy nuclear weapons. The cutoff date was arbitrarily decided soon after China tested her weapons but before India tested. In those days US preferred Pakistan and China over India and Russia and hence did not want India in the group. Today the tables have changed. China has proliferated nuclear weapons to Pak and missile tech to N Korea who then exchanged these techs. Through Pak, china has also proliferated to other countries. Hence China should not be accepted as a nuclear power and should be out of the NSG

alla bux Dec 29, 2016 09:14am

@Zak But India pays $20 million to the UNO while we pay less than two.

Khurram Ansari Dec 29, 2016 10:19am

@ ASLAM SHAIKH: Shoukat Ali Khan rightly said that Pakistan's weapons are much more safer than other countries specially India.

Khurram Ansari Dec 29, 2016 10:21am

@Anusri Tripathi World does believe in Pakistan however there are certain group of countries which are involved in every single step to destabilize Pakistan. Pakistan is such a country which is fighting on different grounds, be it political be it economical be it strategical. There are many enemies to this brave nation which is just because of its smartness in handling toughest issues. Quality speaks louder than conspiracy.

Nouman Dec 29, 2016 12:57pm

This new formula for NSG where India would get entry in to this exclusive group and Pakistan would remain outside is a clear cut discrimination to Pakistan's right to get membership in to the NSG. Whereby Pakistan is a country which is very much the follower of international obligations in the domain of non proliferation. It would infact a discriminatory formula thus leading the South Asia towards instability.

TechScribe Dec 29, 2016 02:10pm

@Khurram Ansari You are missing the big picture. By outsourcing foreign policy to the military which pursued the policy of using non state actors against neighbouring countries Pakistan became a willing pawn in the hands of the global powers like the US and China. It's this Karma that's catching up with Pakistan and its people are paying the price.

Honest Dec 29, 2016 02:37pm

@flipflop Please educate yourself at least by googling what are the benefits of NSG membership.

sABA Dec 29, 2016 03:36pm

@Ayub Best comment Ayub If Pakistan focused on its own people-jobs, education and poverty, research and women's rights, it would be in a position gradually to become a powerful country

sABA Dec 29, 2016 03:44pm

@Junaid Ahmad Predicted by whom?

El Cid Dec 29, 2016 04:06pm

So the noose tightens. When will Pak leadership wake up and smell the coffee.

Rabia Dec 29, 2016 04:11pm

It is a pleasure to read this column. The real issues need to be discussed forensically, in order that the public better appreciates what is at stake. After a while, people weary of spin and hype.

Shiraz Dec 29, 2016 05:42pm

@Anusri Tripathi - So world has confidence on killer whose entry was banned in USA, that's what you want to say?

Rex Major Dec 29, 2016 06:40pm

@Faqira : Hypocrisy backed by hypocrite countries.

Very True! And, NSG is their club. Do you want to be a member? Play by their rules.

Zuzu Dec 29, 2016 07:07pm

I think NSG treaty is bad because it restricts your independence on doing anything without their blessings.

Bhaijaan Dec 29, 2016 07:26pm

@Shiraz "@Anusri Tripathi - So world has confidence on killer whose entry was banned in USA, that's what you want to say?" YES!

Khalid Dec 29, 2016 07:44pm

we have to act responsibly to enter NSG, we have to make good relations with our neighbors including India.Our leaders are busy in corruption and aawam is suffering for that.People have to read the politicians mind in electing them.One by one Indian PM is capturing the nations of the world & what Nawaaz is doing here ??? Shame.

Shahid Dec 29, 2016 07:56pm

The high flying PM of India is going to convince the big nations, I think they'll do it this time.Shame for us that we can't do anything..

chinmaya h Dec 29, 2016 08:06pm

@Afzaal first read about ISRO then talk about india s capability of space technology...

Mustafa R. Dec 29, 2016 08:31pm


'at least by googling what are the benefits of NSG membership.'

None that are not already included in NPT. The whole point of NSG is to give India a backdoor entry to the nuclear club without signing NPT. No wonder NSG was created AFTER India conducted it's first nuclear blast, who do you think they were trying to prevent from following suit?

Inzy Dec 29, 2016 08:53pm

@klp Yes, the world favours those who are right

Iqbal Ali Dec 30, 2016 08:20am

@Shaukat Ali Khan First if the news is censored anywhere it does not mean it did not happen. All countries have classified information about each others nuclear program so people like you and me are in no situation to call anyone hypocrite. Especially, in a country which fed us false information about Bangladesh creation and the real picture is emerging slowly. I an not sure if I would agree with everything the FO says because my trust has been proven wrong previously.

Muhammad Saleem Munshi Dec 30, 2016 06:25pm

India membership of NSG is just a prestige issue. It already has a civil nuclear technology agreement with US. While the US flatly refused to sign a similar one with Pakistan. Pakistan would have for the while be content with China help in the civil nuclear technology field.

Sri Dec 30, 2016 06:33pm

@M. Asghar well there are ways keep in touch with news you will see the good news India getting membership. If you think how USA will do it easy for us by backing even china couldn't do anything about it.

Sri Dec 30, 2016 06:36pm

@Sameer well look at the irony

Eli Dec 30, 2016 10:05pm

Why so much rush to allow entry of non-signatories to NPT ? Political convenience and hypocricy at its best again???

Anjum Dec 31, 2016 06:48pm

@ishan you see the people of both countries want peace but the governments of both countries want war

khan Dec 31, 2016 11:14pm

What else you expect from Democrats? Trump is coming to power.