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India’s bid to join NSG hits dead end

Updated Jun 24, 2016 08:03am

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ISLAMABAD: The Nuclear Suppliers Group on Thursday failed to reach consensus on India’s membership application after several members of the international nuclear trade cartel insisted on adhering to Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) condition for admission, thus blocking Delhi’s entry for now, a diplomatic source said.

The group decided that it would deal with non-NPT states with an even hand, the source added.

A formal announcement would be made at the conclusion of the NSG’s plenary meeting in Seoul on Friday.

The countries that opposed India’s application included China, Russia, Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey. To India’s shock, some of the countries that had initially pledged support for its candidature did not do so at the meeting.

Read: China snubs India over NSG

Mark Hibbs, a senior associate at Carnegie Endowment, tweeted that about a quarter of the 48 member-NSG raised issues about Indian candidature.

The NSG works through consensus and India would not have been able to make it into the club even if a single country had opposed its application.

The criticism of India was not only that it had not signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), but also that it had not fulfilled the commitments it made while getting NSG waiver in 2008. It has neither made progress towards CTBT nor has separated its civilian and military nuclear reactors.

India is said to be runnng the largest unsafeguarded nuclear programme with a fissile production capacity 7.7 times greater than that of Pakistan.

China was the main challenger of the Indian bid, which was being backed by a number of Western countries. Beijing was opposed to giving exception to New Delhi and had been demanding deliberations on the accession of non-NPT countries.

Indian hopes about ending Chinese opposition had revolved around a meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the SCO summit in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. But the interaction did not achieve that and President Xi, even before meeting Mr Modi, told his Pakistani counterpart Mamnoon Hussain that his government would persist with criteria-based approach for the NSG membership.

India, according to a foreign diplomatic source, was not on the agenda of the plenary meeting, but Japan called for consideration of its application.

Pakistan’s case was, meanwhile, not taken up by the group on Thursday.

Pakistan had intensified lobbying for its candidature after it formally launched its application last month. A delegation led by Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry remained in Seoul during the NSG plenary meeting for continuing that effort.

The source said the Pakistani delegation met representatives from 25 countries on the sidelines of the session.

Foreign Office spokesman Nafees Zakaria had earlier said that several NSG members “want detailed discussions within NSG to first agree upon criteria for admission of non-NPT countries to the group with a view to preserving the non-proliferation norms”.

Pakistan, Mr Zakaria said, would continue to highlight its strong credentials and pursue NSG membership based on non-discriminatory and objective criteria.

Examine: India's membership of Nuclear Suppliers Group 'not merited', says NYT

He further said that Pakistani and Indian applications cannot be considered in isolation from the goal of maintaining strategic stability in South Asia.

Zahir Kazmi, an official of the Strategic Plans Division, had a day earlier at a lecture at the Centre for International Stra­tegic Studies (CISS) said Pakistan expected NSG to fairly and simultaneously consider its application along with that of India.

Zamir Akram, Pakistan’s former envoy to the United Nations in Geneva, had at a roundtable at Strategic Vision Institute said Pakistan was opposed to “exclusive membership” for India and supported evolution of criteria that can be applied across the board.

Published in Dawn, June 24th, 2016

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straightforward Jun 24, 2016 07:39am

NSG membership!

Mayank R Jun 24, 2016 07:43am

This is very different from news on other outlets that India now has support from 47 nations and China is the sole opponent. The discussions will resume on Friday and China is expected to come around. Dead end is definitely not the case as of now.

citizen Jun 24, 2016 07:46am

India was blocked due to our excellent diplomacy. But what happened to our application? Why they have not considered a responsible country like ours?

Tamilselvan Jun 24, 2016 07:52am

Failures makes one work harder. India will overcome it too. It just placed 20 satellites earlier this week and so it can do lot more.

Larry Jun 24, 2016 07:54am

The only reason Indias application got this far was due to Obama's government pushing other countries, not Modi Jee. But it was so badly planned and so blatantly against the raisin detre of the NSG, that many countries found it impossible to support it. Even Russia and other countries considered by India as friends did not support. China and these countries deserve to be feted for standing up to the sole super power left (but who's fast declining influence is obvious). 3 cheers: hip hip hooray!

Desi Dimag Jun 24, 2016 07:55am

Now only China left in opposition, let's see what happens today.

Junaid Khan Jun 24, 2016 07:58am

Russia, now that is a news.

Ysk Jun 24, 2016 07:58am

cool. now both countries need to focus back on poverty alleviation

PN Jun 24, 2016 08:03am

As per latest news, 47 out of 48 countries support India! china is totally isolated. It may still block India's entry but it is just a matter of time before it agrees too. Great diplomacy by India which convinced 47 out of 48. Commendable!

Factual Jun 24, 2016 08:02am

Russia also opposed India' entry? That's new!

Indian_here Jun 24, 2016 08:05am

Check the facts. They debated till midnight and 47 of them agreed. Even Turkey stuck for supporting both India and Pakistan. Yes it hit the deadlock but at least report the correct story. It's 47 against one and that wasn't entirely unexpected.

Desi Dimag Jun 24, 2016 08:05am

It's not over yet. wait and watch.

Ashok K. Jun 24, 2016 08:06am

The meeting is still on. Anything can come out. India needs to be self reliant in modern technology. Work hard India. Pakistan is only interested in blocking India when in reality they should try to make themselves better India in Science and Technology.

Deepu Jun 24, 2016 08:06am

Wait and Watch ..Those who oppose will regret later.It's Modi's diplomacy at play.

Desi Dimag Jun 24, 2016 08:09am

Strange, Pakistan membership bid didn't even put on the table.

kumar Jun 24, 2016 08:13am

Let's correct last comment, Turkey is backing both Pakistan and India's NSG membership.

Common sense Jun 24, 2016 08:16am

Instead of looking at india's membership fate, pakistan should worry about its own selection or rejection. I thought they had applied too and were not even discussed. Such a negative attitude is going to move you forward. India obviously will make up with alternative in other sectors.

fair Jun 24, 2016 08:17am

Its a shock for India.

Secular Jun 24, 2016 08:18am

Feeling sad, but we are optimistic. You have done a great job Mrs. Sushma Swaraj.

Rajesh Jun 24, 2016 08:19am

Wah want an achievement for Pakistan.

Motherland Jun 24, 2016 08:20am

Long live china - pak friendahip.

Apoo Jun 24, 2016 08:19am

I think India will get membership of nsg in a year or two.

China has to bow down to economics

Naveed Jun 24, 2016 08:19am

This is defeat for India.

Catalyst Jun 24, 2016 08:19am

Oh the shattered dreams. Fantastic news. No country should be given preference simply because US needs it to carry on its dirty work. I'm glad that NSG has mantained its credibility.

سے Shaam (Hanafi) Jun 24, 2016 08:20am

What about Pakistan? Was it even discussed at the table, as the Chinese wanted it...

AD Jun 24, 2016 08:20am

Wishful thinking. 47 out of 48 countries agreed for India's inclusion with China being the only country to oppose. Discussions will continue today. Pakistan's case was not even considered.

Motherland Jun 24, 2016 08:21am

It is an opportunity for pakistan to enhance relations with Russia as she remained on principles.

Hashim Khan Jun 24, 2016 08:23am

Pakistan should be allowed NSG membership regardless of Indian's admission status.

Pramod Jun 24, 2016 08:22am

india was supported by 47 countries . Turkey remained neutral (supported membership for both without condition ) and China was against India .

Random Indian Jun 24, 2016 08:23am

Time to roll back nuclear and go ahead with eco-friendly & cheap solar, wind and gas.

Khalid Jun 24, 2016 08:24am

Well done Pakistan, once again China proved a trustable friend

krishna R Jun 24, 2016 08:27am

great leadership shown by Modi! applaud the positive diplomacy carried out by India - hard work, dedication and effort never go wasted! go India go!

Lost cause Jun 24, 2016 08:27am

Your blocking will reach dead end one day. Indian claim cannot be overlooked for long.

Badar Jun 24, 2016 08:28am

Pakistan should continue to pursue its case based on positive actions it has taken to safeguard its nuclear installations and assets. Pakistan was recently lauded even by US State Dept for such measures as well as continuous training and skill improvement to relevant govt officials at different levels.

Pakistani Jun 24, 2016 08:31am

If it wasn't for India Pakistan would have NEVER build nuclear weapons.Do you hear that world ?

Komal S Jun 24, 2016 08:33am

Pakistan needs to understand the difference between the likes of NZ, Ireland, Brazil vs China. They would not like a country like Pakistan, North Korea to have a license to get in based on admission of India. In principle they are fine with India getting in, but that should not open floodgates for countries like Pakistan to get in, so they want the process to be fully thought through. This is a different stance than what China is taking. China will not like to the lone opposing member. Very soon Pakistan has to settle for at least China fought for us.

Kartikay Jun 24, 2016 08:34am

This article is only for domestic consumption in Pakistan. 47 out of 48 are backing India. But only China & Turkey support Pakistan. Still Pakistanis are elated. Understand one thing Chinese are blocking India because they see India as future challenger it's not because they love you or something.

Killer Jun 24, 2016 08:35am

Appreciate India for its good effort for NSG membership.

Asgar Jun 24, 2016 08:37am

India will surely get NSG membership.

India Jun 24, 2016 08:38am

Russia is not blocking India's bid author...

Karma Dorji Jun 24, 2016 08:38am

Finally something to feel elated about for pakistan. Never mind that the door closed for you too and forever.

sangram Jun 24, 2016 08:42am

If India and Indian starts rejecting Chinese product they will bow down their heads to india and accept all terms and conditions ..Its Indian consumer which feeding chinese ..Do don't worry about china they had never fought a war against india after 1962 considering all these ..

Sandeep Jun 24, 2016 08:41am

Russia supports India . the article is wring in stating Russia opposed our bid..

Rational guy Jun 24, 2016 08:43am

We are with you indian gov, your hard work is really commendable. And for Pakistan plz look into your application.

Mustafa R. Jun 24, 2016 08:44am

@Desi Dimag;

' Pakistan membership bid didn't even put on the table.'

Neither was India's as far as China is concerned. China just wants to develop criteria for the induction of all non-NPT signatories.

Tejaswi Jun 24, 2016 08:45am

I am reading different kind of news in Indian and Pakistani websites.. Nice to know..

Dialogue Jun 24, 2016 08:48am

Today it's going to happen...don't worry..India will be a by today itself...China has been left alone.. Let's see how it stops now...

Mustafa R. Jun 24, 2016 08:49am

@Desi Dimag;

'Now only China left in opposition.'

You are in denial. There are at least other six or seven countries that want a criteria based approach, including our other all-weather-friend, Turkey.

Nadeem Jun 24, 2016 08:51am

Good news

Mustafa R. Jun 24, 2016 08:52am

Turkey was the only country that explicitly mentioned Pakistan as a quid pro quo for allowing India in NSG against the rules. Thank you brothers, especially Tayyab Erdogan.

Mustafa R. Jun 24, 2016 08:55am

@kumar;

'Turkey is backing both Pakistan and India's NSG membership.'

To put it more clearly, it has demanded Pakistan's membership if India is granted one.

Donny Jun 24, 2016 08:54am

Feeling bad for India and Indians in general, just when we thought India was a free country, it is put in its place. Sad state of affairs.

Murtaza Mandviwala Jun 24, 2016 08:57am

Funny how Indians (comments) pounced on this news on a Pakistani website lol

Mustafa R. Jun 24, 2016 08:58am

@سے Shaam (Hanafi);

'Was it even discussed at the table, as the Chinese wanted it...'

China would only discuss criteria and refused to discuss any specific country. Only Turkey mentioned Pakistan by name.

sid Jun 24, 2016 08:59am

Doesn't matter if India doesn't make it this time. Better luck next time. All that we need to do right now is....instead of getting emotional about it and saying foolish things about china....we should try again to convince china.

Kryptonite Jun 24, 2016 09:06am

Why is Russia shown as one of those countries which opposed Indian membership? It's not true. While the other countries did oppose.

Krana Jun 24, 2016 09:06am

@fair Not shock, we work better when challenges are there

N.S Jun 24, 2016 09:12am

State controlled Indian media is saying only China against India's NSG bid. DAWN is a more believable source.

Feroz Jun 24, 2016 09:19am

There is no such thing as a dead end. India will continue to march forward because it has only a positive agenda and mindset. Much ado about nothing because an NSG waiver has already been obtained in 2008. China does not want India to enter Nuclear technology market because no one likes competition. There are plenty of tools in the Indian toolbox and all will be brought into play in a calibrated manner to win over naysayers. No time for celebration or grief.

Zaheer Jun 24, 2016 09:21am

When Paksitan is on the table.. it might be reverse.. Only China will support and remaining will be against.

Satyameva Jayate Jun 24, 2016 09:29am

As per this report, 7 countries opposed India. But no country opposed Pakistan. Does that mean that Pakistan is being added to NSG. Big victory, indeed.

Virendra Singh Jun 24, 2016 09:33am

Its very simple to get china's support. Just boycott Chinese goods. China will be on track to support India.

Mullah Jun 24, 2016 09:44am

@Hashim Khan Wake up. Pakistan's application was not even considered !

Talha Jun 24, 2016 09:43am

@Kryptonite Oh brother international relations are governed by national interests. Russia has gone against India simply because India is trying to get cosy with USA which Russia would never like. In its greedy pursuit of NSG India has only lost an ally in Russia.

Arjun Jun 24, 2016 09:49am

It was not so bad as India got 47 vote out of 48. its itself a big achievement that world is with us. No worry china is going to loss too much as now we know what's China can do for India. NSG isn't big deal for India as per the benefits in this group.

mahesh Jun 24, 2016 09:49am

47 of 48 have already voted in India's favor... which itself says it all.. if China opposes..they too will have too will feel the repurcussions one way or the other.

Nida Jun 24, 2016 09:51am

Thank God!!

The entire country is so happy. If we dont get it. India shoulnt get it too. How can we accept India to go past us?

anil Jun 24, 2016 09:51am

India convinced 47 out of 48.Great Achievement!

romi Jun 24, 2016 09:52am

@Hashim Khan

understand china can block india entry but it also cant get pakistan in

NSG Member Jun 24, 2016 09:52am

47 out of 48 members agree to support India lately. China is completely isolated now, and letting the world know openly how much it is scared of India! Just a matter of time, India will be leading such groups!

romi Jun 24, 2016 09:53am

@citizen

only china cant get you in

47 memebers support india still difficult for pakistan it will be impossible

Libra Jun 24, 2016 09:55am

well done Russia, Turkey, Austria, new Zealand and all India deserves this...

Rohit Singh Jun 24, 2016 09:56am

China is Indias competitor and it was expected they will not support India. They are using Pakistan as an excuse to block Indias bid but the truth is they know Indias rise does not favor them regionally.

khusbo Jun 24, 2016 09:56am

@fair

in what way

47 out of 48 supporting india

Libra Jun 24, 2016 09:57am

@Tamilselvan for your info 20 satellites were not all indian satellites.. only 2 satellites were from india ... stop commenting blindly and india s future is very clear...

Striker Jun 24, 2016 09:58am

In their final decision 47 out of 48 countries were in favour of India only one that is China opposed India's bid

tac Jun 24, 2016 09:58am

Today, Bombay stock exchange index sensex is down more than 1000 points. After BREXIT, foreign portfolio investments reliant emerging markets will face unprecedented volatility in short term. Indian assets prices be it capital market or real estate are irrationally inflated. Indian government must change its priorities and focus to salvage the economy and spend more on people welfare. I was shocked to read that more than 100 people were dead in lightning strikes in eastern Indian states few days back.

Rohit Singh Jun 24, 2016 10:02am

Though diplomatic effort will go on to get the entry in future message has gone very clear in India that China played a major role in blocking Indias bid. This will have repercussions on trade and diplomatic front, hope Chinese are okay with this.

AK PATRA Jun 24, 2016 10:00am

India's membership bid in the Nuclear Suppliers Group as 47 of 48 members supported New Delhi's application at the group's special plenary session in Seoul.China raised a procedural block early in the day, refusing to admit the India membership issue to be discussed in the meeting. Lets deprive China of the Indian consumer market. India should be increased security cooperation with Japan, Taiwan, and South Korea, followed by recognition of Tibetan government in exile.

romesh Jun 24, 2016 10:02am

If pakistan was sensible it would have cared more about its own entry then that of india

along with china pakistan should have worked on a deal to let india enter NSG on condition it wont block pakistan entry after that

with 47 supporting india its only question of time before india enters NSG

after that its going to be to hard for pakistan on enter on its own

Sri1 Jun 24, 2016 10:02am

@Naveed "This is defeat for India"

Perhaps, but will be a victory for Indian manufacturing. Time for India to start putting wholesale anti-dumping legislation in place targeting tens of billions of Chinese imports - the advantage goes to "make in India" manufacturing. Newer made-in-India Samsung smart-phones have been good and one such Iris tablet has been serving me well for more than 4 months now, we will now see many more products soon. And there are many more purely Indian electronic manufacturers like Intek, Celkon etc. Indians are already starting to avoid and ignore anything Chinese.

Tariq Jun 24, 2016 10:02am

@khusbo go check international news rather than local u will know

Vigilant Jun 24, 2016 10:07am

At least this whole episode has brought out the enmity of China to India's progress. Now, Indian strategists can have an excuse to join up with Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam along with US who are all encircling China.

Munawar Zamn Jun 24, 2016 10:08am

Vain hopes by indian friends, its not about acceptance or rejection, its about criteria, access is for NPT countries and Pakistan & India both are Non-NPT, So successful diplomacy by Pakistan to convince the world that same criteria to be considered for both

China will not allow india to dominate Asia So be cool friends Pakistan is on right track and will play vital role in this region

sachin Jun 24, 2016 10:08am

While this is a big news I do not think the Indian stock market tumbled because of that. Economy is big news here. For those with smaller economy NSG is a brownie point. If NSG does not give us technology and materials, we will develop on our own. It has been proven time and again that whenever the world shut its door on India it developed its own technology. What are companies like Mahindra, Tata, Birla, Larsen & Tubro, HAL, Brahmos, BARC, Bharat Forge, NPCIL, Reliance, ISRO etc. for? We have the best technical educational institutions and research centres whose alumni head the world's best companies and universities. For India it is not a matter of 'if' but 'how soon'.

Kulbhushan Yadav Jun 24, 2016 10:10am

@Motherland Russia has full support for India's entry.

KT Jun 24, 2016 10:14am

Already India is launching other country satellites. Similarly other countries can associate India for nuclear fuel for power generation Lets also look at positive end of how to generate power with nuclear fuel. If nuclear waste is recycled it can also generate power. Nuclear arms is not only product.

Kunal Jun 24, 2016 10:17am

@Naveed Indeed...

Tarannum S Jun 24, 2016 10:18am

Congrats to all my Pakistani and Chinese friends. We will work harder now to take India to the top.

Sandy Jun 24, 2016 10:18am

Well tried India. Nothing to be ashamed of. At least we are now aware about whos is with us and who is not.

Sandy Jun 24, 2016 10:19am

@Naveed What about Pakistan? India at least tried and forced the other nations to discuss it. What Pakistan achieved.??

BK Jun 24, 2016 10:21am

This opposition will not stay longer for India. With the political acumen of Mr. Modi, he will be able to manage the NSG membership. India is such a country nobody can neglect. India is one of the important business partner of China, in addition the presence of His Holiness Dalailama and team in India, is an important foreign policy factor between India and China. The consideration by NSG with opposition of 10 members out of 48 countries is also an important achievement.

Raj Jun 24, 2016 10:22am

47 of 48 members support India's candidacy except for China

Wariss Jun 24, 2016 10:22am

Don't worry about other but, focus on own bid..

Indian Jun 24, 2016 10:21am

Let's see how long China would oppose?? Now we Indian will become more determined to get this and China will also see the results of this opposing.

Ajay ladkani Jun 24, 2016 10:26am

NSG or no NSG, things are quite clear that barring a few countries, most of them are supporting India. See the irony that Pakistan is happy at India facing some hurdles but not embarrassed for their proposal not being even considered.

Prakash Jun 24, 2016 10:27am

Out of 48 almost 42 countries are supporting India, Would be interesting to listen how many are in favor of Pakistan. China opposing and Pakistan praising its own.

TQ Jun 24, 2016 10:27am

Its so sad that all the countries fighting for nuclear power which may destry them, and the citizens of these countries happy/sad on the NPG issues. I hope we grow up and get all togather and search for other planets and move. Universe is huge, we can all work togather, help each other in research and development and find new paradises.

Rubul Borkakoti Jun 24, 2016 10:29am

India will get NSG membership in two years. Inshaallah.......

Sudhanshu Swami Jun 24, 2016 10:30am

So many countries are backing India, it means there will be lot of backdoor open, few are already open. Biggest lost is for Pakistan. Pakistan cant dream of nuclear supply.

Sudhanshu Swami Jun 24, 2016 10:36am

Contrary to initial reports, Brazil and South Africa were strong backers of India’s membership. Austria, Ireland, Switzerland and a few others said they supported Indian membership but wanted to know how the induction process would take place. Turkey, seen as Pakistan’s closest friend in the NSG after China, said it supported membership for both countries. However, Pakistan’s application was not even taken up by the other members.

sourav Ghosh Jun 24, 2016 10:37am

Where is it mentioned that Russia has opposed India?

Sudhanshu Swami Jun 24, 2016 10:37am

Only China was strong opposer and Turkey was more or less neutral opposer. Others didnt oppose India's inclusion. No body wants to sour relations with India and USA. Specially smaller countries.

Mohit Sharma Jun 24, 2016 10:42am

@Tariq Please tell the specific source

Tarannum S Jun 24, 2016 10:45am

In case China turns out to be the one opposing India by EOD, I pledge not to buy any Chinese products or even products from Indian companies that import from China. It is not about NSG, it is about our integrity in our relations with nations that are anti-us. We will put in twice efforts to take India to the top.

Rising Star Jun 24, 2016 10:46am

This was not totally unexpected. India still made positive efforts on their own strength. The good part is that now India knows who are real friends and how to deal with them.

Qambar Ali Jun 24, 2016 10:52am

the indian sense of entitlement goes for six

Tariq Jun 24, 2016 10:54am

@khusbo sorry misread your comment.

Sasimann Jun 24, 2016 10:56am

China will lose the little credibility it has among Indians and will be viewed as anti Indian it can forget it's high speed trains to run in India,PM Modi will not accept a NO and might explore other means.

Irfan Baloch Jun 24, 2016 10:59am

This deflates Indians greatly Best news

Modern Appeasement Jun 24, 2016 11:02am

After the ME situation, the emergence of Putin in Crimea & Syria,and China as new global economic power,the world geo political,and geo stragedical scenario has changed. Both India & Pakistan must revisit their foreign policies, and cooperate each other,because you just can't change the neighbors.

Shantanu Jun 24, 2016 11:03am

I am a transporter of coal I am happy that India did not get the membership. This would have adversely affected many businessmen in india

Sri Jun 24, 2016 11:08am

Just an update..by midnight,china was the only country opposing india's entry...all others have agreed..

sunder singh Gill Jun 24, 2016 11:08am

Where is Modi's so called charm now?

Zak Jun 24, 2016 11:09am

Atleast now Indians need to understand reality. They are considered just another third world country trying to step beyond its status.

Unbiased view Jun 24, 2016 11:14am

Latest reports in international press - (1) Russia's support to India was steadfast, from beginning till end (2) Turkey supported both, India and Pakistan, (3) South Africa & Brazil, who initially had opposed India, but currently are standing behind India (4) Smaller countries like New Zealand, Ireland, Austria were persuaded by Indians & their friends to support Indian candidature (5) China remained the sole country which continues to oppose India.

True Buddy Jun 24, 2016 11:15am

@Junaid Khan obviously a false

murali Jun 24, 2016 11:16am

@Naveed It makes no difference to India. US as such is supplying 6 reactors for power generation. India is being supplied with raw material by other countries as well. The main issue here is that India is not keen in Weapon of destruction, but it is focusing on power generation for further growth. Whereas Pakistan continues to sacrifice its development theory and building bombs, for whom we have no idea.

Major Prakash Jun 24, 2016 11:18am

Its ok not everything lost India will rise from ashes like Phoenix

Proud_Indian Jun 24, 2016 11:19am

This is going to create a new world order. Modi is not someone who accepts defeat easily. Wait and Watch....

Insaf Jun 24, 2016 11:21am

47 out of 48 countries supporting India except China. China fears about Indian dynamic growth and want to keep its dominance. However India is strong enough under leadership of Modi and will keep marching forward.

Faizan Jun 24, 2016 11:24am

Sometimes we fail to accept what the mirror tells us. India no exception.

Javed Jun 24, 2016 11:28am

Let's analyze the post NSG events.

Li-N-Ja Jun 24, 2016 11:29am

India's NSG membership request has been highlighted as a security issue and it will destabilise the security balance in South Asia. Between the two rivals in South Asia, India is always far ahead of Pakistan in terms of defence. Even if India is denied the NSG seat, no one can block it from achieving its nuclear target. The NSG membership will help it to achieve its clean energy generation target and help to reduce global carbon foot print. However, if China continues to block India from NSG, it will not only force India to continue dependence on fossil energy but also will prove to be disaster in other global forum where India and China work together for the developing countries. The immediate fallout will be non-cooperation in BRICS, G20 and other such forum where India may not with China and it will affect all developing countries including Pakistan. It’s now only China which stands against India and if not corrected, this will definitely create a huge crater in bilateral relation.

Khan Jun 24, 2016 11:42am

Modi invested a huge amount of political capital and prestige for a diplomatic effort which failed miserably.

Farrukh Jun 24, 2016 11:55am

Iron brother Russia blocked Bharat's entry? OMG...!

MM-Ind Jun 24, 2016 11:57am

I as an Indian am OK with the Chinese objection. It would mean that no NSG this time around. Can China block India forever , is a question that needs to be asked. For now, with no NSG membership, heavens will NOT fall for India. It already gets most of the benefits from the NSG.

In other matters, by obstructing India's entry, India will now NOT have to give in to any quid-pro-quid to China on so many other factors. India's position vis-a-vis Business with China, South-China-Sea, Oil Exploration with Vietnam etc will only harden. India will not have to give in to any IOUs to China, had China supported India for the NSG. The NSG membership will come, maybe in the next meeting.

KN Jun 24, 2016 11:59am

This is irrelevant. India already has what it needs to run its civil nuclear program effectively and enough direct support from countries like US, Britain, France, Australia to keep it going

Hidayat Jan Jun 24, 2016 12:00pm

we don't care if they discussed Pakistan or not but we definitely blocked India.

INDIAN 1 Jun 24, 2016 12:01pm

....its time to move on and try harder next time,there is no place for emotions in international diplomacy, no body can stop us, India is not demanding anything with begging ball in hand, one just can not ignore the need of more that a Billion people on the globe.

Random Jun 24, 2016 12:01pm

India never had a chance. It was India TV News which trumpets PM Modi all the time.

Zak Jun 24, 2016 12:04pm

@Ysk and kashmir resolution, then no animosity and chess playing.

Zak Jun 24, 2016 12:04pm

@Desi Dimag its over. Learn to face truth.

SMI Jun 24, 2016 12:05pm

It should be simple process if a country meet the criteria then she should be granted membership otherwise what is the reason to have membership criteria it is better to throw out the criteria base membership and give membership base on voting or scrap this NSG organization.

Karma Dorji Jun 24, 2016 12:05pm

New group will be made called Nuclear Commerce Group. NSG bye-bye.

Ashish Jun 24, 2016 12:07pm

India is already getting NSG benefits under 2008 waiver. Being NSG member is for status only as far as India is concerned.

Khan Jun 24, 2016 12:07pm

do not ever give up your NPT status no matter what,

Naxalite Jun 24, 2016 12:12pm

Long Live Pak-China Friendship!

Aadil(Kanpur) Jun 24, 2016 12:14pm

Whether we gain entry to NSG or not I appreciate the efforts taken by our Goverment

Naxalite Jun 24, 2016 12:17pm

@Tamilselvan My Dear, Developed countries focus on basic needs first.

N.Sid Jun 24, 2016 12:21pm

Many Indian friends commenting here seems to be ignoring the history of NSG and why it came into being.

1- NSG was commissioned in 1974 as a retaliation to India doing a nuclear test at POKRAN in 1974. India used the uranium/plutonium and the technology being supplied to the KANDU nuclear reactor for civilian use to turn it into military purpose, in a clandestine way. That was the reason for NSG coming up.

2- India did not signed NPT and CTBT, both important in considering the NSG membership, if it is based on merit. There are a few countries like France who is in NSG without signing it, but here we are talking about merit and not bypassing rules and regulations. Hope it will be helpful to our neighbor.

Ali Jun 24, 2016 12:20pm

@Tamilselvan you have to Focus on equall systems to be proud and eradicating poverty.

MaximumIndian Jun 24, 2016 12:24pm

@Larry

Six countries, that opposed India are - China, Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey. Not Russia.

Kamal Paseha. Jun 24, 2016 12:25pm

World can not ignore nuclear powered Pakistan. Every member of UN should be treated equally. Pakistan has lost thousands of innocent people and soldiers fighting terrorism in this region. Pakistan has been successful to force the foreign terrorist to cross the borders. Now still no NPT no NSG for every country.

Surya Kant Jun 24, 2016 12:26pm

Commendable achievement for Pakistan. China stands rock solid for Pakistan. It is 47 nations versus China who is lone country blocking by exercising veto vote. The Nuclear Suppliers Group, requires unanimous decision for admitting a new member. Thus even if one member dissents, the application if rejected. However the results are of little significance to India as all group members agree to trade with India except China. NSG is symbolic for India in real terms.

Kamal Paseha. Jun 24, 2016 12:27pm

This is not the time to celebrate anything. The best thing is to settle the differences with open heart and stop encouraging hate.

sam Jun 24, 2016 12:28pm

Indian officials claimed the support of at least 32 nations of the 48-member NSG during the discussion of membership, but several nations that had been expected to give their outright support did not do so during deliberations. Sources say, in the biggest shock to Indian efforts were the strong positions taken by Brazil and Switzerland, despite the support they had assured India during diplomatic parleys.

Prime Minister Narendra Modi had even visited Switzerland this month, where India had been assured support, but during the negotiations, Switzerland is understood to have clarified that the larger issue of NPT adherence must be considered. - The Hindu

Rahul Jun 24, 2016 12:31pm

We have 47 votes. an inch closure.. maybe next time. But going ahead India will now oppenly oppose China in every forum and corner itself like in Pak case. We have $100B trade with high deficit in India. We have already imposed high customs in import of Chinease Steel . many more to come. Lets see China reaction on Trade and South China Sea, when India joins all nations opposing China. Its Diplomatic War where China is now alone.

Saurav Jun 24, 2016 12:32pm

This setback won't be taken lightly by Modi and team. Coming days Chinese will defintely feel the heat of their mis-calculated decision from other nations like Russia and US, least to mention about India's aggressive approach towards them.

NPS Jun 24, 2016 12:34pm

@sid, I think it is up to China, if they want a good relation with India. Not India, but China needs India as a market for its exports. 100 Billion in a year is big thing to loose. I believe sense will prevail at last. May be today or in few months time. Soon or later it will happen, that India will get a nod to NSG. You cant place India and Pakistan in the same category.

NPS Jun 24, 2016 12:36pm

@Factual, it is fiction. You cant divide Russia and India. By the way, Russia needs India to conter balance China.

N.S Jun 24, 2016 12:38pm

@Sasimann That on the contrary would be a loss to India. China-India trade is less than 4% of what China trade with rest of the world.

Siddhartha Jun 24, 2016 12:38pm

Did China signed NPT? Then why China is member?

rav Jun 24, 2016 12:39pm

No worries, India will make the most sophisticated reactor in the world in another 5 years.

vijay,salem Jun 24, 2016 12:41pm

Agreed.India lost this time but it is a blessing in disguise as India will take some tough decisions in future.Particularly regarding chinese products being dumped in to India in billions.Let's see how good are the chinese in tackling this.

Dheeraj Jun 24, 2016 12:43pm

Hum honge kamyab ek din...Hogi Shanti charo oor...These lines has brought India longway ahead since Independence.It will take us to the new hight of the success in future also ..Not to be worried too much for NSG denial..Thanks to the world for supporting and for not supporting also.We will come back with much stronger position.Just wait....

ajay sachdeva Jun 24, 2016 12:44pm

@Feroz Of the 74 comments yours is the perhaps best,practical and pragmatic too.

Rajan Jun 24, 2016 12:45pm

@Khalid I guess road to NSG is very very far for Pakistan . China can not do everything for Pakistan . Pakistan has to do it.

Rajan Jun 24, 2016 12:45pm

@Sasimann well said . China will pay cost for that .

RAJ Jun 24, 2016 12:46pm

There is no issue. India can buy uranium with out any problem. Canada and several country's are willing give but the only issue buying and selling nuclear technology. I think is better for india because in the time of recession india develop its own cryogenic engine for rocket. This time chance to develop indigenous nuclear tech . India is member of Missile Technology Control Regime. Same situation china need to face to enter the MTCR.

lafanga Jun 24, 2016 12:47pm

"The countries that opposed India’s application included China, Russia, Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey. To India’s shock, some of the countries that had initially pledged support for its candidature did not do so at the meeting."

So it's not China alone. Russia also joined in plus a 1/4 of countries had reservations on Indian membership. India needs to understand that neither US nor China are same as they were in 2008. China is a lot stronger and US is a lot weaker diplomatically.

Snow leopard Jun 24, 2016 12:52pm

With the passage of time when nuclear technology will shift from uranium to thorium, India will be the boss of the nuclear market and like Australia group of uranium rich countries there will be a group named India group. It's just a matter of time until India masters thorium technology

Taimoor khan Jun 24, 2016 12:53pm

Even India long term ally Russia rejected Indian application ??

lafanga Jun 24, 2016 12:54pm

@Virendra Singh "Its very simple to get china's support. Just boycott Chinese goods."

If it was that simple then China wouldn't be in a position with 11 trillion GDP now. You could reject Chinese goods but then you will have to find a replacement which is as cheap and as good or better than the Chinese products. Unless India suddenly becomes a manufacturing hub like China and starts using it's own manufactured goods, it's just a pipe dream. Even the USA cannot just ignore China at this time.

Kashmir Jun 24, 2016 12:56pm

@Desi Dimag dude, its a done deal. India is NOT in the NSG! get over it! already!

Kashmir Jun 24, 2016 12:58pm

@Apoo 'china has to bow to economics' Seriously! PPP basis `China GDP is twice the size of India! who dictates to whom?

Narayanan Jun 24, 2016 12:59pm

Denials promote pursuit towards self reliance. India was denied Cryo engines and it took 20 years but India did develop its own Cryo engine for space launch, in recent times. Same would happen with Nuclear fuel. 30% of Thorium reserves are with India. It would makes sense to continue the efforts in that direction even if it takes a decade or two, so that one doesnt need to be at the mercy of all and sundry for fulfilling basic energy needs..

Kashmir Jun 24, 2016 12:59pm

@Kartikay '47 out of 48 are backing India. But only China & Turkey support Pakistan' ??

you guys are contradicting yourselves within the same post! put up a coherent argument

Narayanan Jun 24, 2016 01:01pm

@Ysk The NSG membership was for sourcing fuel for nuclear plants for energy fulfillment which includes rural sector.

Kashmir Jun 24, 2016 01:02pm

@anil 'India convinced 47 out of 48.Great Achievement!' Yep! But wait! China, Turkey, Russia, Brazil, Ireland .... all opposed

me thinks wee bit less than 47, NO?

Khan Jun 24, 2016 01:02pm

@PN It was Indian media who was depicting that only China is opposing entry into NSG and reality was several countries were opposing Indian entry into NSG.

Khan Jun 24, 2016 01:04pm

@Tamilselvan Do you know only 3 out of 20 were Indian satellites rest belongs to USA and other western countries.

IndianR Jun 24, 2016 01:06pm

So now start thinking about alternate Energy sources...India is rich in solar , why can't we tap in solar energy...Getting into NSG membership is not end of world...we have so much of poverty to eradicate...Let's move on and DO NOT compromise on negotiations just to get into NSG......

Khan Jun 24, 2016 01:07pm

@Indian_here Come out of dream. Indian entry into NSG has been rejected, it is your media which was misguiding you.

Khan Jun 24, 2016 01:09pm

I must congratulate our foreign ministry and china that they have done well to prevent Indian entry although big fishes like USA, France and other were in their favor.

Abc Jun 24, 2016 01:10pm

Good news

Girish Chandwani Jun 24, 2016 01:15pm

Try try try and shall succeed.

What's up for Pakistan application.

Indian Jun 24, 2016 01:17pm

FYI: China said that they neither support India nor Pakistan.

Waseem Sarwar Jun 24, 2016 01:22pm

ROFL. Russia too. Looks like India doesn't have that much success in diplomacy and Pakistan aren't alone in region or world. Hopefully Pakistan application will suffer similar fate but then Pakistan applied a month ago while India have been running for that since last decade. :)

AKK Jun 24, 2016 01:21pm

Point to be noted is what Pakistan has now offered to China for the great support they provided.

May be something bigger has been offered to China this time.

Anyway, good diplomacy shown by Indian Diplomats, will force china to be more responsible while doing nuclear business with any country now.

lafanga Jun 24, 2016 01:22pm

Altogether 10 countries had reservations on Indian membership without signing the NPT. Indians can spin it however they want that it was only China but they need to understand that it's tough for all countries to wave India thru without signing NPT. In the end it wasn't just NPT, there were other reservations as well. Some countries have towed the US line but China has played it well. They did not make it India specific which would have been tough for countries to go with. They made it a criteria based approach which the opposing countries could work with.

Looks like the only path for India is to sign NPT which they will never do.

Desi Dimag Jun 24, 2016 01:23pm

Amid NSG membership row, India-China key finance dialogue cancelled. The dialouge was to take place in Beijing on 27 June. Good going India.

Kaushal Jun 24, 2016 01:27pm

China will not let India or Pakistan to emerge as Superpower in her competition, but will use Pakistan. However, a Superpower India could be in benefit of whole world. It is injustice and infact impossible to debar largest population and democracy to achieve. India as a fastest growing will surely make its way to success.

Hasan Jun 24, 2016 01:37pm

Bechara hindustanis on this site have to comfort themselves with the fact that Pakistan didn't get access either...but Pakistanis aren't the ones who are constantly insisting that they are a global superpower. What happened to all those who normally start their posts with "wow, modi-ji"?!

Hasan

altaf Jun 24, 2016 01:36pm

setback fro India but at least India were discussed some 40 odd top nations of world supported it ..would have easily gone through if there was a 2/3rd majority system.

mankind Jun 24, 2016 01:36pm

The countries that opposed India’s application included China, RUSSIA, ouch. ;)

Kumar Jun 24, 2016 01:41pm

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/a-strange-obsession-with-the-nsg/article8765312.ece?homepage=true

India's strange obsession with the NSG

Taimur Jun 24, 2016 01:42pm

Russia too opposed it?

Trump Jun 24, 2016 01:44pm

The difference between 2008 ans 2016 is lack of strong American leadership in 2016 unlike in 2008 when George Bush was a leader of the free world. This is not India's setback but Obama's defeat. Wait till next election and you will see welcome change on geopolitical issues. That is Trump card.

Manoj Jun 24, 2016 01:43pm

NSG, NPT,CTBT, MTCR ... the list is endless. I just don't understand anything !!!

Mohammed Jun 24, 2016 01:49pm

It is at this moment India remembers the great champion of India US friendship George Bush with fond memories. He singlehandedly fought for the NSG waiver for India and because of that great man, India can do nuclear commerce with nations inspite of not being NSG member. We Indians miss him.

vivian shirazi Jun 24, 2016 01:57pm

@Naveed The game is not over yet,

Global peace Jun 24, 2016 01:58pm

Great news . now focus on other things in life.. Best thing happened. But world politics to be watched now.

Jai Shankar Jun 24, 2016 02:00pm

Russia never opposed Indian entry into NSG. Also, unlike Pakistan, India has already separated its civil and military nuclear programs.

Anup Jaiswal Jun 24, 2016 02:01pm

China's fear is that if India gets into the nsg group,It will start installing nuclear reactors in the vicinity of the ASEAN countries.

T.M. Reddy Jun 24, 2016 02:04pm

According to the latest information is the "Last man standing" in the wall is China. If it puts a spanner it may be difficult. Again, the possibility of Pakistan application can match the entry if China wants for India has no objection; I am not sure about other countries hiccups.

sangram Jun 24, 2016 02:07pm

Once upon a time USA had rejected Indian request to give assistance in GPS and see the result india has lunched 20 satellites through inbuilt technology. Now USA has rejected pakistan request to supply F-16 fighter plane .now its a challenge for Pakistani scientist to make better and cost effective fighter plane than F-16...

SG Jun 24, 2016 02:14pm

Blocking tactics are successful only in the short term. When Pakistan didn't give trade route access to India for Central Asia, Chabahar port through Iran was ideated. Similarly, with US, UK, France and most major world powers supporting India's case, India will get a work around with or without NSG. It is just a matter of time.

Snow leopard Jun 24, 2016 02:16pm

Let the technology move from uranium to thorium and India will the master of the nuclear market

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 02:17pm

@Khusbo - How do you make "47 out of 48"?

Even your own media says, five other countries - Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Turkey and Ireland - opposed India's entry.

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nsg-agenda-tonight-includes-indias-membership-bid-top-10-developments/1/699079.html

vivian shirazi Jun 24, 2016 02:17pm

@Asgar Final decision has not yet made, that will be done later, China will agree to or abstain in favour of india. China can not afford to lose honour of friendship and business with India

vivian shirazi Jun 24, 2016 02:20pm

@sangram Good and forceful reply

eyewitness Jun 24, 2016 02:23pm

@PN ahan very hopeful.....

FYI, meeting ended and no results....

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/seoul-plenary-ends-no-decision-on-india-s-nsg-entry-as-china-remains-adamant/story-wfYsGtthoBPMRaVkl0MUmN.html

Gautam Jun 24, 2016 02:24pm

Only china opposed it. All the nations were one way or another supported it.

Rohail Jun 24, 2016 02:26pm

Modi if you got some guts, please step down and resign. Make Advani the new PM. Time to change.

Desi Dimag Jun 24, 2016 02:26pm

Thanks to all who supported India. Now hold the hands together for trade and commerce too. We are happy with our government's efforts and foreign policies, keep it up and make India think positive.

eyewitness Jun 24, 2016 02:27pm

@Desi Dimag

Only china ? Do you even read the news of what the issue is ? do you really think India should be considered as an 'exception'....don't think friendship of global bully (read US) can give any significant benefit to regional bully

point of view Jun 24, 2016 02:28pm

Never mind, my Government has done the best for the NSG membership. We failed in the first attempt, that's fine. Its not end of the world. My government will work hard for the next attempt. Every country has its own national interest, so does China has with Pakistan and others those opposes India. Now India knows, who is friend and who is not. India will change the country-specific foreign policy accordingly and will reply with same coin in near future...

Aniket Rastogi (Indian) Jun 24, 2016 02:29pm

Support the decision by the group. No country should be allowed to be a member of NSG without becoming a signatory to NPT. NPT is not just a random treaty but it's existence is for the good of humanity. There should not be any laxity in rules when it comes to dealing with nuclear fuel. Its not just about India, pakistan or even about regional imbalance but about the entire human race. India and Pakistan call themselves responsible states then they should think through.

MANOJ KUMAR JHA Jun 24, 2016 02:29pm

No problem, there is always next time.

Otherwise also, does not make much difference. India is free to trade nuclear technology with any country it desires.

shikara Jun 24, 2016 02:31pm

@Indian_here The final decision has not yet been made. Wait for few more hours, your be surprised with the real outcome .

sam Jun 24, 2016 02:31pm

No Problem....Try and Try Until You Succeed......

TARAKANT TIWARI Jun 24, 2016 02:36pm

@Naveed my dear it seems that you know very least about international proceedings. INDIA had entered in bilateral agreements With more then 10 countries before the NSG application tabled.Bilateral agreement already been made with all important members of NSG for supplying reactors and Uranium 235. If NSG group has to establish its credentials they must include India or loose everything internationally as a group. Its NSG which requires India.

SidSingh Jun 24, 2016 02:42pm

The way these groups(e.g. NSG) are working , soon they will be considered IRRELEVANT. Its all about lobbying and not the credentials. India will certainly make entry may be next year and Pakistani diplomats can enjoy for one more year. If Pakistan is a responsible nation, they should feel sad and bad today as their own application was not even tabled,

Irfan Baloch Jun 24, 2016 02:41pm

best news ever.

Hidayat Jan Jun 24, 2016 02:43pm

Grapes are sour. This is just the beginning of your new-found love with Uncle Sam! India should get prepared for more shocks.

Being Indian Jun 24, 2016 02:46pm

I can understand that China and turkey oppose this but how come Russia ?

KUNAL MAJUMDAR Jun 24, 2016 02:46pm

What China has managed to do is create lot of anti-China sentiments in India. This surely doesn't augur well for China doing business in India. India will make China remember this snub for a long long time.

Hidayat Jan Jun 24, 2016 02:47pm

Read M K Bhadrakumar's (Indian Diplomat) views about India NSG bid.

Sr Jun 24, 2016 02:47pm

@Hidayat Jan don't worry all you will see is India progression. There is so much hard work for their own country and not channelising energy to block another nation

deepak Jun 24, 2016 02:49pm

I would like to congratulate PAK and China for blocking the NSG bid, this will have a little effect on China short term effect of PAK will be long term in international market

immo Jun 24, 2016 02:54pm

well that was supposed to happen im neither surprised nor shocked however the cherry on top was Russia's opposition.

Sr Jun 24, 2016 02:56pm

One country working hard for its own success another country focussed on its neighbours progress and overlooking it's own people. It's not difficult to say who will succeed

k k tiwari Jun 24, 2016 02:59pm

countries which opposed may loose a big market ,

Wariss Jun 24, 2016 03:01pm

@Farrukh Correct your knowledge... Russia is with India..

Sr Jun 24, 2016 03:08pm

NSG bid shows Pakistan isolation in world community. Rather than looking at what India does Pakistan should at times think about its own priorities

satya7077 Jun 24, 2016 03:09pm

Can anyone state the benefits of getting NSG seat beside taking part in the policy making of that body? India already access to nuclear materials from all over the world and it has no huge uranium stocks which it will need to sell out. India won't sign NPT for just NSG seat. Either no one has the rights or everyone is equal at having nuclear weapons. MTCR seat is more important then NSG seat as it opens new doors for technology.

Dr. Salaria, Aaminr Ahmad? Jun 24, 2016 03:09pm

Excellent decision by the world community. It will be great if they can put more pressure on India to give up its expansionist actions & policies & force it to refrain from using its military might to intimidate, occupy, attack, run over and illegally take over hapless & helpless states like Jammu & Kashmir, Hyderabad, Junagarh, Munadhir, Goa, Sikkam, Siachin Glacier etc. This is the high time & the right time for the world nations to force India to giveup its decades old uncalled for occupation of these states based on the centuries old jungle law of "might is right." NSG is the right platform to make India pay for all of its immoral & unethical military occupations of its weak, feeble & defenseless neighboring countries & force it to concentrate on the uplift of its own people instead of spending billions of unnecessary dollars every year to maintain its 3rd biggest military machine in the world with tons of nuclear, chemical & biological weapons of mass destruction in its arsenal.

Ravi..the sun Jun 24, 2016 03:12pm

India's entry in to NSG is inevitable, it is now only a matter of time. More over India qualified to be a NSG member,

Raja Farhat abbas Jun 24, 2016 03:21pm

@Sandeep denial is not good try to live with the truth it's good for your health.

Saqib Jun 24, 2016 03:31pm

Erm, some commentators here were so arrogantly confident that everyone will back India. I can't help but chuckle.

Sohail Gem Jun 24, 2016 03:32pm

Wow Russia opposed India's membership to NSG. Along with seven other countries

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 03:32pm

@Satya7077 - "Can anyone state the benefits of getting NSG seat...".

So, why all that hoopla and bending over backwards over it then?

Wariss Jun 24, 2016 03:33pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aaminr Ahmad your knowledge is excellent. From where you got such great info??

Saud Jun 24, 2016 03:33pm

@Li-N-Ja and what is India's nuclear target exactly?

Saud Jun 24, 2016 03:36pm

I am surprised how Indian readers of this site react in complete contrast and reject facts a whole when news are not in their favor.

Strange double standards.

Muhammad Modi Jun 24, 2016 03:36pm

If India became a member Pakistan would had a stronger claim for it, China made a tactical long term decision it satisfied Pak in one hand and thwarted both countries from NSG membership in future!!

SR Jun 24, 2016 03:42pm

@point of view well said. I am glad our government is working best for its case.

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 03:44pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aaminr Ahmad - A better effort than "what else can he say?"

Sanjay Sharma Jun 24, 2016 03:43pm

No problem Modiji....we know you tried your best. We will get it the next year, the world cannot ignore the energy needs of a more than a billion people and China will learn its lesson when its goods will be less in demand in India.

SR Jun 24, 2016 03:45pm

@Harmony-1© India has already got a major waiver in 2008. Membership of nsg along with MTCR will further enhance its position. Having said that lack of consensus now is not a permanent setback as diplomacy is a multi step process. India has got more well wishers than ever before and we believe our government is trying their best on multiple fronts to improve bilateral relationship with countries across world which Pakistan is failing to do

immo Jun 24, 2016 03:44pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aaminr Ahmad? your comment made my day after Russia's opposition to India's bid :)

China's game superior Jun 24, 2016 03:46pm

"India’s bid to join NSG hits dead end"

The three things which was key reasons for India not getting the NSG membership is 1) Not signed NPT. 2) Blocking by China and some other countries of India for not signing NPT. 3) America not having meeting with China to peruse it to support India's membership.

India foreign office didn't expect that the result will go against its expectations, it may be consider its failure that it will have such a opposition.

China played a very good game to Block India's membership.

Khwarezmi Jun 24, 2016 03:47pm

Even Rassia and Brazil has now decided to vote against Indian membership? Is this vorrect?

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 03:47pm

@Aniket Rastogi (Indian) - Such sane minds should be heard more - on both sides!

Rohail Jun 24, 2016 03:48pm

@Being Indian Here is the answer for your questions and many others. Russia-China has $300+ Billions dollars deal together. China is buying Russian Gas and Oil and now Indian being titled towards US, Russia has to react. They are sending the strongest message to Indians that they are going to lose Russian support should you go towards US. Their next move will be offering weapons to Pakistan. Face some reality.

loss to both India Pakistan Jun 24, 2016 03:49pm

After NSG summit both India and Pakistan haven't got NSG membership.

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 03:51pm

@SR - You should have directed that comment towards the one who queried the "benefits of getting NSG seat". Why me?

Hassan Sharif Manj Jun 24, 2016 03:53pm

Why India and Pakistan are involved In such kind of things which are void for people of both countries?

SR Jun 24, 2016 03:59pm

NSG membership happens or not is one thing. But the fact is India has great opportunity to grow economically, politically in coming years. In coming years Pakistan will find it difficult to match if this level of obsessesion grows. Already there are rumblings that Pakistan is getting isolated and it's not a welcome sign for pakistan

ali Jun 24, 2016 04:00pm

Indians as usual in denail mode when news isn't is to there expectations. So keep denying.

Chupuda Jun 24, 2016 04:01pm

@Kashmir Turkey supported both india and Pakistan.

Battleaxe Jun 24, 2016 04:02pm

The diplomacy has hit a dead end , hope that some attention can be paid to national causes .Russia is jolt but then you have a few friends who are not interested in you anymore , happens all the time but this will be claimed as a sucess will be be a an even bigger shock ,fail sums it fine actually and that would do ,

Chupuda Jun 24, 2016 04:04pm

@Khan It's not about the satellite,it's about the launching capability.

SR Jun 24, 2016 04:05pm

@Harmony-1© you asked why there is hoopla and hence made my point. It is an open forum after all.

SR Jun 24, 2016 04:07pm

@Rohail only six nations have opposed and Russia ia not one amongst them. Russia doesn't look at diplomacy as zero sum game. They need both India and China. Please do read about India Russia relationship and biannual summits

Realist Jun 24, 2016 04:13pm

well was expected ,

Harmony-1© Jun 24, 2016 04:15pm

@Kumar - That was a good article there in your link in The Hindu. It sums up nicely:

"What has this government done? Promoted an international day of yoga: Nehru was the Swami Vivekananda of his day, promoting peace as a spiritual value, Mr. Modi channels Baba Ramdev. Asked for Masood Azhar to be put on the proscribed list of international terrorists. And now the NSG".

Uday Kulkarni Jun 24, 2016 04:16pm

This is earlier news of yesterday . All other news channels that reported in Indian news said by 12.00 am ; 47 countries including Turkey came around to support India and the lone opposition was China . Turkey favoured supporting India and Pakistan both joining to which India has no objection. So it is only China and Indian PM has sid that this will affect Indo- China ties. China will be forcing India to join the USA cartel of USA-Australia-Japan-Newzealand -Taiwan ; which Indi has not joined as yet. Surely will affect Indo China ties as clearly; China does not want India to grow and compete with them.

M. Siddique Jun 24, 2016 04:21pm

So the secret trip to China was a smoke screen. The outcome is logical. Both Pakistan and India should be recognized as nuclear powers and sign NPT. Then safeguard criteria should be applied for entry into NSG. Currently India is a loose cannon with less stringent safeguards than Pakistan.

Iftikhar Husain Jun 24, 2016 04:20pm

All the work done by India to join gone wasted.

Raju Jun 24, 2016 04:22pm

Now, the world missed a great opportunity of stopping nuclear proliferation, India will for sure develop 1000 warheads and then keep the tensions high and the chinese and whole world will come begging for stopping the production, all that you can play is till India bears with you, once it gets aggressive you can not stop it.

M. Siddique Jun 24, 2016 04:24pm

@Mayank R, The news item you were reading were prepared during Indian diplomatic efforts and not after the real vote. Remember we were told by Indians China is not opposed but reviewing its position. Reality check.

Rakesh Jain Jun 24, 2016 04:24pm

Ok great, Everyone is arguing about no. of countries opposed India's membership, anyway its a single digit figure... now will anyone confirm how many countries supported Pakistan's application?? again its a single digit fig or just 1???

M. Siddique Jun 24, 2016 04:26pm

@Tamilselvan, Take twenty simultaneous pictures of the NSG voting site. That might help.

Sudhanshu Swami Jun 24, 2016 04:33pm

China said India and pakistan should be considered equal. India got only one pure negative vote. While Pakistan wasnt even on consideration !

Anis Jun 24, 2016 04:35pm

NSG membership is of no relevance for India as it already enjoys exemptions.

Hashaam Jun 24, 2016 04:35pm

India can only dream of having an ally like China. Wonderful news.

Shahid Jun 24, 2016 04:37pm

In one of his interviews on War and Peace in Nuclear Age: Haves and Have Nots, late Agha Shahi correctly forecast, India and Pakistan will cross the nuclear threshold together. Both have been in step on every step of the nuclear race and so it is destined to stay. It is like the strong force binding two nucleons; they dance staying equidistant, exchanging something mysterious bound together. While diametrically opposite in every way, this has proven their natural strategy, and very successful so far.

Vivek (Indore) Jun 24, 2016 04:37pm

Russia DID NOT OPPOSED INDIA!

Ibrar Jun 24, 2016 05:08pm

@Tamilselvan Yes India has launched 20 odd setellites at a go, but not without history of technology transfer! Read below: Space technology was first introduced by Canada/US to subcontinent in the 60s and Pakistan was the first in Asia to send up a space rocket.However following Indian nuclear test in 74 Pakistan froze its space work and instead put its resources to nuclear research,particularly after its break up by its neighbour. The rest is history.It is expected that after it has completed the desired number of nukes(including tactical battle field weapons) it would return to reinstate its space research.

India made use of the Cold War years and acquired all bits and pieces of space know how and necessary components including launch facility from USSR. Subsequently papa Obama's NASA has been opening up so that Indian MARS' probe was provided the crucial tracking by the NASA.As expected US and others are now using Indian launches as a cheap Taxi service. Not a bad business though!

NSG Jun 24, 2016 05:10pm

42 nations supporting India and the proposal of Pakistan not even mentioned...I think that sums up the whole equation...

Raja Farhat abbas Jun 24, 2016 05:13pm

@Vivek (Indore) It is clearly written in black and white Russia has opposed India, learn to accept the truth.

Eramanagalam Somapalan Jun 24, 2016 05:16pm

@Zak Yes it is a third world country, a very special one at that. It is the only pluralistic country where are equal and some are not equal. It will ultimately win everywhere.

Ibrar Jun 24, 2016 05:20pm

@Larry Agree 100%! What happened to Russia and Brazil, the countries Modi thought were in his pocket.

Kedar Jun 24, 2016 05:19pm

NSG or no NSG, India will continue to develop. We have proved it before that denial of international help has made us even stronger. China has in fact given India this opportunity.

SR Jun 24, 2016 05:21pm

@Raja Farhat abbas can you show any external reference that Russia opposed? I am asking as I cannot see it anywhere

SAEED MASOOD Jun 24, 2016 05:25pm

This will put India in its right place....

A Troll From Nowhere Jun 24, 2016 05:29pm

It's a Sino-Pak diplomatic victory!

Ibrar Jun 24, 2016 05:33pm

@Desi Dimag It was to reward India to return home with something. Do not forget that no matter how much are the Americans helping and outwardly pushing India's case, the reality may be different.it would become easier for America to create a further gulf between a willing India and China if the later continued to successfully oppose India's bid. You know what I mean. Just open up your minds!

SR Jun 24, 2016 05:35pm

@Raja Farhat abbas India Russia relationship is hallmark of foreign relations of both nations. Russia need both India and China but Pakistan is nowhere

Bobb Mack Jun 24, 2016 05:51pm

@Rajesh Do not get too disappointed about Pakistan' opposition. India is an adversary and Pakistan has security concerns. It is therefore expected that any thing that tips the security balance in the region is going to meet with full opposition from Pakistan...many countries, even India's supporters know that. Pak- China Dosty Zindabad !!!

N.S Jun 24, 2016 05:58pm

...our confident foreign policy: modi meets chinese president Xi for first time, troops enter India. modi pleads with Xi on NSG, sent packing.

Sridhar Raghunatha Rao Jun 24, 2016 06:02pm

The latest news is that India's efforts failed. Pakistan and China have succeeded in their mission to block India's entry into NSG.

Irad Jun 24, 2016 06:13pm

Why such a high stake on NSG membership? It is better to be in climate change group than meaningless NSG - Japan, Germany & U.S are all moving towards - non-conventional energy sources.

Ghaznavi Jun 24, 2016 06:20pm

"The countries that opposed India’s application included China, Russia, Brazil, Austria, New Zealand, Ireland and Turkey. "

Same will happen with the UNSC bid. Not everything runs by $$$. The only way forward for India is to extend hand of friendship to Pakistan and sincerely work towards resolving all issues.

N_Saq Jun 24, 2016 06:20pm

@sid You are the only smart guy here!

Pak should not be happy that India's application is denied instead it should be sad that her application was not even discussed.

It is weird that when one country between the two gets humiliated the people of the other country get's happy and start celebrating it. Why can't they just worry about their own country? Better yet why can't they not work together for the benefit of the whole sub continent?

Majority of people in both countries are poor and illiterate and they need each other to force the leadership to invest in development, ending of corruption instead of hording the money. This attitude is the reason why the rich people including leadership of both countries take advantage of the poor and it is extremely sad when the middle class and literate people from both country act/behave in the same way.

In such a scenario who is there for poor and illiterate people to look upto?

KKumar Jun 24, 2016 06:22pm

@Apoo Yes; China is very pragmatic about trade. If India moves to barter trade-no trade deficit, China will lose. There is nothing China makes that is not being made in India or can get from Korea/Japan/Taiwan

Malik Jun 24, 2016 06:30pm

India keeps telling that it has worldwide support and it has made 47 out of 48 countries going in its favor. Now there is the result. All that hogwash based statements and fantasies have been ran aground.

Abdul jabbar Jun 24, 2016 06:31pm

Pakistan being member of NPT has fair chance to become NSG member .

Louis Jun 24, 2016 06:56pm

indias membership is slated to be considered at next nsg plenary session to be held in december 2016. switzerland,italy,mexico and south africa were opposing indias membership earlier but due to modi govts hectic diplomacy these countries have agreed to indias membership.brazil is a surprise opposition as it is a member of brics.total 6 countries out of 48 member NSG group are opposing and they are newzealand,turkey,austria,brazil,ireland and china.that means 42 countries are supporting indias membership.other 6 countries will be made to agree by december 2016 by india and usa combine by invoking strategies of caoxing,cajoling,threat and intimidation(like trade sanctions,importing duties on thier goods etc).there is a proposal by usa to change the rules of nsg itself by the december 2016 that makes merit and history of non proliferation of nuclear weapons mandatory and not signing NPT which makes india eligible for NSG.

Kamal Pasha Jun 24, 2016 07:30pm

Indian President, Indian Prime minister, Indian Foreign minister, Indian foreign secretary all met with Chinese President/Prime minister but failed to convince them on NSG. All these commentators failed to understand the reason. India can not be member of NSG without signing NPT. FULL STOP.

Nasser Jun 24, 2016 07:35pm

@Striker Bro 25% opposed India. 47 osupported entry for both countries and not for India.

Kiran Jun 24, 2016 07:34pm

India shud be careful not to overreact. We will have to play a balancing act between China and USA till we at least become 3rd largest economy in the world. Till then buy time, get investments from anywhere possible including china and concentrate on economic development. Lack of Chinese investments in India is actually a bigger security risk for India, because were economic interests are involved, chance of conflict will be less. Once we become the 3rd largest economy we can slowly create a 3rd block with support from countries who like India(which I believe there are many). This should be the strategy.

N_Saq Jun 24, 2016 07:37pm

@Louis Where are you coming from and how do you know all this? Are you the incharge of drafting all the rules of NSG? Do you have all NSG countries wrapped around your fingers? What is your position in world politics?

It just blows my mind how some people comment here as if they can see in the future and that they are all knowing. All one can say with certainty is if it does not happen now then better luck next time.

However, I will add that it will be far better if India and Pak work together instead of against each other. Of course illiterate can not see my point but the sad thing is neither does the literate. So my friends today it is your day and tomorrow it will be the other's where will it end?

Ali Jun 24, 2016 07:50pm

India was refused membership of the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), this is good news for the world. President Obama had supported India's bid, sending dangerous message of his double standards, which would have pushed the world to Nuclear Armageddon. India still "refuses" to sign Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT)?

India betrayed Canada in 1974, by using CANDU reactor to explode nuclear device. India shocked the world later by conducting five nuclear explosions, despite its promise not to do so. President Bush violated US laws and world opinion to give India nuclear deal? Now President Obama wanted to get India NSG membership?

India has largest unguarded nuclear-weapons program in the world. India in 2012, started building a secret nuclear facility in Karnataka. This is military-run complex of centrifuges, atomic research laboratories and weapon-testing facility to make thermonuclear / hydrogen bombs? India is threatening the region and the world.

lafanga Jun 24, 2016 07:52pm

@Louis So what you are saying that two largest democracies in the world will resort to threats, intimidation and if that doesn't work then by force changing the rules of the NSG club to allow India in by any means possible !!

And you call yourself democracies. What a joke.

ROHIT PANDEY Jun 24, 2016 08:03pm

@Vivek (Indore) Russia DID NOT OPPOSED INDIA!

That is quite right. I checked the net and not a single story mentioned Russia as being opposed to India's membership:)

TEENA Jun 24, 2016 08:04pm

Bravado!

Abdulla Hussain Jun 24, 2016 08:03pm

It was India's wish supported by US to become a member of NSG nothing more than this. India is not qualified to become a member as yet. India climbed high only to see the ladder slipped away.

anony Jun 24, 2016 08:09pm

An excellent and right decision by the members.

Houlbelat Jun 24, 2016 08:11pm

India fixing its cart before the horse! Has it done anything since its inception to make nuclear arsenal irrelevant?

TATVAVETTA Jun 24, 2016 08:14pm

IBRAR India has unique technologies for mars mission and space shuttle nobody else has it and NASA will like to have it .Indian space equipment is made at much lower cost and operating cost. Indian Space shuttle is 30% of cost US shuttles has lower wait so lower launching cost. These are totally indigenous developments. Pakistan will follow India as was the case in NSG application. IfPakistan and China block us in NSG you will get it in equal measure elsewhere .

Ash20 Jun 24, 2016 08:16pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aaminr Ahmad? - Try it.

Kashmiri Nationalist Jun 24, 2016 08:17pm

Wow even Russia and Brazil, both BRICS. Talk about a snubbing!

Hasan Siftain Jun 24, 2016 08:21pm

I am sure Indian fellas have realized by now that its not only china but 6 other countries too that opposed India's bid.

Gina Jun 24, 2016 08:29pm

There are lot of problems with India, rape, extreme poverty, and then this embarrassment, sometimes it is just plain outright embarrassing to be an indian

KN Jun 24, 2016 08:33pm

@Hasan Siftain Not true only China opposed. China is isolated now

Warda Bhatti Jun 24, 2016 09:25pm

I was worried when USA try to presurerize china to vote in favour of India now i m happy that so many countries veto n secondly Russia is a big news

Indian Jun 24, 2016 09:52pm

Forget NSG, forget Security council. Its their loss not India's. If they want to keep 1/6th of humanity out then its their prerogative. I guess the world is more safer and non-proliferation on the rise with a nuclear power not being in NSG or security council...Good for them. Years from now even if ppl beg for us to take leadership role, we should show them the finger. Meanwhile focus on Chabahar and joint US-Jan-India military exercises now..

Priya Jun 24, 2016 10:10pm

India nsg membership will be achieved in this year wait and watch.

cheetah Jun 24, 2016 10:14pm

its matter of when . its inevitable . india already enjoys all the benefits of NSG through exception from 2008 deal. only thing it can't do is sell nuclear supplies/reactor. india can easily sell smaller reactors to countries but not being part of NSG prevents it .

its matter of time

Billu Jun 24, 2016 10:20pm

Wow.... There are so many Pakistani's expressing delight in the outcome. It is really sad and shows why the relationship between the countries is in the state it is.

What does it say about you when you are happy with someone else's "failure"?

BTW.... this is not a failure. We already have a waiver - so no real loss. A set back maybe... but not a failure. India will get membership.

Meanwhile.... I would recommend my Pakistani friends to focus on their bid. China may delay India... but it can not guarentee the NGS membership either. Focus on your challenges, growth and acheivements. As we focus on ours.

Javed Jun 24, 2016 10:37pm

Post NSG, China is going to face India and not Pakistan at most forums. Now calls for Chinese interests could go unanswered. Similarly, Chinese investors who have been bee lining to invest in India will bec considered on merit or not allowed at all. India could give China a Red face at G20, Carbon emissions, global warming and other forums.

sana-1 Jun 24, 2016 10:39pm

We as a nation are not much concerned with India unless an until it involves us!

Take this as a payback of your foreign policy against Pakistan!

And those talking about Pakistan's candidature should know this by now that we were not interested in NSG membership to begin with....it was a part of what we needed to block India's entry....

SHAH Jun 24, 2016 11:25pm

@Hasan Siftain out of 48 NSG members, 38 voted for Hindus-tan; while 10 voted against, incl China.

Abdulla Hussain Jun 24, 2016 11:26pm

@Kamal Pasha: Over confidence. The objection to India's entry is based on principle stand of non signing of NPT. All countries don't prefer to bypass rules like US which unnecessarily supported India's entry into NSG. India came into being one day after Pakistan so it will get entry one day after Pakistan is admitted in NSG.

SHAH Jun 24, 2016 11:27pm

@Warda Bhatti
There is $1.3Trillion Chinese loan on USA .. There is no chance of USA even opening its mouth disturbing China's mood; Annual Trade imbalance is around $520Billion this year in favor of China; So, much for being so called super power;

Akshay Jun 24, 2016 11:27pm

@lafanga Was it democracy at play when 38 out of 48 countries made strong support, a few raised concerns which means they can be persuaded, while one opposed for its own self interest and it did not let it go through ?

This is your definition of democracy ?

RB Jun 24, 2016 11:36pm

@Libra He said "Launched". Making satellites isn't a big thing.. college graduates in India and world over make their own satellites.. Launching them is a big deal...

RB Jun 24, 2016 11:48pm

@Kashmir Because you are reading OLD news -- its 47 against 1

RB Jun 24, 2016 11:53pm

@Kashmir You forget that India imports USD 76 Billion worth of goods from China... He is talking about trade imbalance and you are bringing in an unrelated GDP metric which does not play any role when countries trade.

RB Jun 24, 2016 11:57pm

SO many factual errors that this article is a joke.

Amol Jun 25, 2016 12:03am

All is well that ends well. Now India can focus on thorium based nuclear reactor as India has the largest deposits of thorium in the world, roughly 21%. India is the only country which has successfully produced nuclear energy from thorium.

Paxton Roy Jun 25, 2016 12:55am

@Libra ; Fact is: 18 foreign sats were carried by an Indian rocket and deployed successfully. How many have you hoisted?

venkob Jun 25, 2016 12:59am

Pak - First get SCO membership. later talk about NSG

Siddharth Mishra Jun 25, 2016 01:02am

According to China, no rules can be bend for India. Hence the same applies on UNCLOS - China should stop claiming Spratly and Paracel Islands. Also in the same way, China should stop its nuclear cooperation with Pakistan because Pakistan doesn't follow NSG rules despite being a non-member and doesn't allow IAEA inspections. These rules are being followed by India which allows IAEA inspections.

Siddharth Mishra Jun 25, 2016 01:23am

@tac Rise and fall of stock market index is don't reflect economic condition. Economy can be good despite the fall in Stock market. Understand the economics. Despite the fall in BSE index, international agencies are predicting India's accelerated economic growth.

Siddharth Mishra Jun 25, 2016 01:26am

@Sri1 You have forgotten Micromax another Indian company which has been reported to be among the world's top 10 largest mobile phone manufacturers.

Riaz Murtaza Jun 25, 2016 01:27am

India and Pakistan should be admitted simultaneously to NSG. Otherwise more instability in south Asia. .

Np Jun 25, 2016 01:29am

@Factual "Russia also opposed India' Factually incorrect. Russia is a strong supporter

ANT Jun 25, 2016 03:12am

China should forget its dream of joining the MTCR.

Umar Jun 25, 2016 04:06am

Justice done!

zubi Jun 25, 2016 04:12am

@Tamilselvan in what is way is satellites related to membership application for NSG

Lafanga Jun 25, 2016 04:13am

@TATVAVETTA "India has unique technologies for mars mission and space shuttle nobody else has it"

You do realize how absurd your statement is in light of the fact that both USA and Russia has practically colonized the space around Earth, Moon and Mars since the late 60's.

Omar Jun 25, 2016 05:40am

Pakistan is a strong candidate for membership and I feel we should take the higher ground and unilaterally sign the NPT since we are already a declared nuclear power.

Abdulla Hussaun Jun 25, 2016 06:28am

@Tamilselvan: Yeh a good pacifier indeed.

AB, US Jun 25, 2016 06:52am

It is unfortunate the news is inaccurate. The only country opposed the entry of India is China and only China. China is undemocratic nation and must be replaced by India in the NSG as well as in UN security council.

smop Jun 25, 2016 07:01am

Pakistan has to move beyond weapons, safety etc?. Pakistan has enough nuclear weapons to protect itself from a full scale war.

India china and USA are the largest polluters of the world. If India is a part of NSG, it means clean power and also good for the neighborhood.

TAMIZHAN Jun 25, 2016 08:58am

Once, India asked for good rice, they refused.. India did green revolution..

Once, India asked for super computer.. They refused.. India built Param super-computer..

Once, India asked for Cryogenic engine.. They refused.. India build it self and reached upto Mars in record breaking low cost..

Once India asked for GPS.. They refused.. Now India has her own NAVIC...

Now, if India has been refused from NSG.. I know India will soon breakthrough this challenge & others will request & approach India to share and join..

Jai ho..

Shaukat ali Jun 25, 2016 10:45am

@AB, US yeah ok.

Nitin Jun 25, 2016 11:48am

India is member of MTCR and China is not. What goes around will come around.

democrat Jun 25, 2016 03:13pm

Congratulations to Pakistan!

True Blue Indian Jun 25, 2016 03:59pm

@Abdulla Hussain Wow great logic Yes waiting for the great day when Pakistan is admitted into NSG , India will follow next day ,or may be you guys can plan blocking our entry. Good luck getting A Q Khan's Pakistan into NSG.

True Blue Indian Jun 25, 2016 04:05pm

@Ali Damn I'm impressed you know everything about India's Nuclear program Including our secret Nuclear military facilitiy for making hydrogen bomb in Karnataka. Wow !

Blue Warrior Jun 25, 2016 04:29pm

@Lafanga Yo Genius , He even mentioned about cost factor about India's space missions. You clearly missed that, didn't you ? India's Mangalyan was cheaper than Movie Gravity. I guess I don't have to talk much about it now. You won't understand. For you , everything India does is no special & we make big news out of it . . wonder you ever get to cheer about Pakistan's achievement.

ROHIT PANDEY Jun 25, 2016 05:39pm

@Blue Warrior wonder you ever get to cheer about Pakistan's achievement.

Until and unless that happens, Pakistanis in general, will put down India in an attempt at parity.:):)

Realist Jun 25, 2016 05:38pm

Make merry till you can. India will get to where it is eyeing to. Neither Pakistan nor china can prevent that nor US can facilitate that. So enjoy till it lasts. cheers

Sense Jun 25, 2016 08:09pm

@Sri ok Sri thx for the information but sorry no NSG

Kuladeep Patil Jun 25, 2016 08:29pm

47 / 48 countries supported Indians bid, is it not good news for India? We know how to trap china....

AKS Jun 25, 2016 09:57pm

USA has reaffirmed that it will get India into NSG by the end of this year. SO just Chill chill...

Ady Jun 25, 2016 10:21pm

Better luck next time

Jawad Asif Jun 25, 2016 11:40pm

Its good to hear that Pakistan diplomacy has achieved this outcome. India diplomacy is always against Pakistan, we should give the same response to India. However we should also work hard to improve the things on our side as well.

well wisher Jun 26, 2016 12:32am

@Tamilselvan yes shoe box size satellites, India has a tendency to believe in its own lies....you must remember India is a third world nation with a huge population living under poverty line. Pakistan is smaller and more quality orientated rather then quantity and this ratio of Quality over Quantity will remain/

jam shed Jun 26, 2016 02:08am

@Mayank R So should not you believe your own sources? Or you want us believe yours as well?

Arshad, Canada Jun 26, 2016 03:26am

@Proud_Indian , ya, he will make his own one or two member organisation. Good for you guys.

Arshad, Canada Jun 26, 2016 03:35am

@True Blue Indian , You are still out of the Group. Sorry dude.

Zak Jun 26, 2016 06:46pm

@Zaheer we have simple strategy, if india gets in so should we. And we let india do all the work and clean the path for us. No sweat.

Zak Jun 26, 2016 06:54pm

Amazing how the unresolved issue of kashmir has spilled into every sphere of activity. From Afghanistan to NSG. India has to realise, in the end it is the loser every where and its ambitions are nailed to failure unless kashmir is resolved according to their wishes.

Zak Jun 26, 2016 07:07pm

"Dead" is the operative word.