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Vicious criticism of Pakistan by US Congress panel

Updated Jul 14, 2016 09:12am

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WASHINGTON: A US congressional panel has demanded cutting off all US assistance to Pakistan to persuade Islamabad to act against the Afghan Taliban groups allegedly using its territory to launch operations into Afghanistan, a move that Foreign Affairs Adviser Sartaj Aziz says is motivated by “baseless concerns” of “a section of US lawmakers”.

Some US lawmakers and witnesses also suggested declaring Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism and imposing economic sanctions if Islamabad did not eliminate the alleged terrorist safe havens on its territory.

The Tuesday afternoon hearing — “Pakistan: Friend or foe?” — produced more heat than expected and at some points it came close to challenging the country’s very existence as a sovereign state.

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More than once Pakistan was called manipulative and accused of treating the United States like chumps.

“They are making chumps out of us. They see us we are being so stupid. It seems like paying the mafia,” said Congressman Matt Salmon, Chairman of the Asia and Pacific Subcommittee of House Foreign Affairs Committee.

“If I may use an undiplomatic term, we have been patsies,” said former US ambassador to Kabul, Baghdad and the United Nations, Zalmay Khalilzad.

Mr Khalilzad, who is an ethnic Afghan, claimed that Pakistani leaders had gamed the American system for decades.

“Patsies chumps. Most Americans see out of this and yet our so-called leaders do not really get it,” said Mr Salmon while endorsing Mr Khalilzad’s views.

The comments, broadcast live on the internet, prompted the Pakistan embassy in Washington to clarify that the United States and Pakistan were still allies and there is “positive counterterrorism cooperation between the two countries”.


Sartaj Aziz downplays the move, describing it as motivated by ‘baseless concerns of some US legislators’


The statement recalled the October 2015 joint statement of President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, in which the US leader “affirmed Pakistan’s role as a key counterterrorism partner and recognised the sacrifices that Pakistani civilians, military, and law enforcement personnel have made over the years as they confront terrorism and militant groups”.

The embassy noted that both leaders also renewed their common resolve to promote peace and stability throughout the region and to counter all forms of extremism and terrorism.

It pointed out that after a recent visit to Pakistan, Chairman of the Senate’s Armed Services Committee, Senator John McCain, saw first-hand the results of military operations in North Waziristan, and acknowledged that “he was impressed by the progress on ground”.

“We need not remind the sceptics that no country has suffered more from terrorism than Pakistan,” said the embassy’s spokesman Nadeem Hotiana.

“Pakistan’s resolve to fight back the menace of terrorism is second to none. The extraordinary success of operation Zarb-i-Azb is a testimony to Pakistan’s unwavering commitment to eliminate terrorism from its soil,” he added.

But there was no mention of Pakistan’s commitment to fighting terrorism at Tuesday’s joint hearing of the House subcommittees on Terrorism, Non-proliferation and Trade and Asia and the Pacific.

Examine: US dilemma of 'two Pakistans'

Ambassador Khalilzad and Bill Roggio, senior editor of the Long War Journal, called for cutting aid to Pakistan and placing it on the list of state sponsor of terrorism.

“At the end they are treating us like chumps. And we are more than willing to keep on handing out money to Pakistan,” Mr Roggio said in his testimony.

“Pakistanis are very clever in manipulating us. I have to say that,” added Mr Khalilzad. He claimed that Pakistani leaders and officials reached out to US lawmakers, invited them for visits and charmed them with promises that were never implemented.

Pakistan’s ability to manipulate US legislators and policy makers ensured the continuation of US military and economic assistance to the country, he added.

“My experience in dealing with Pakistan is that they will only give you something when they know that they are going to get something,” said Mr Khalilzad, who dealt with Pakistani officials as a senior diplomat of the Bush administration.

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher said that Pakistan and Saudi Arabia created the Taliban and the Haqqani network and Pakistan was protecting them.

He said the continuation of US aid to Pakistan was “ridiculous” and urged the US administration to reach out directly to people of different Pakistani regions instead.

“People of Balochistan should understand that the US is on their side for their independence and self-determination from a corrupt, viscous terrorist supporting regime,” Mr Rohrabacher said. “Same with the Sindhis, same with other groups in Pakistan.”

He claimed that the Pakistani “regime” was repressive and was “corrupt with their own people.” And yet “we continue to give them some type of support ... absolutely absurd,” he added.

Congressman William Keating, a ranking member of the Subcommittee on Terrorism, Non-Proliferation and Trade, focused on Pakistani intelligence agencies and asked panellists if the agencies were “a state within a state”.

“It is by no means a rogue institution within Pakistan. It does not operate independently or on its own. It is an instrument or an arm of the Pakistani army,” said Tricia Bacon, an assistant professor at the American University.

“It is implementing the policies of the Pakistani army. It is implementing on behalf of the Pakistani army.”

“I concur with my colleagues,” Mr Khalilzad said.

Congressman Salmon suggested that as the first step, the United States should completely cut off aid to Pakistan.

“That would be the right first step. If we do not (make) any changes, we move some of the other suggestions, state sponsor terrorism, possible economic sanctions,” he added.

“I have never heard such harsh comments being used against a US ally,” said a Western journalist after the hearing.

The two subcommittees are associated with the House Foreign Affairs Committee. They can be instrumental in passing legislations that persuade the administration to take the action they require.

Tuesday’s hearing, held by known anti-Pakistan elements within Congress, aimed at bringing pressure on Pakistan to act against the Taliban groups allegedly based inside the country. So far, there are no real threats of a congressional sanction and recent attempts to do so have failed to get enough votes to pass.

Anti-Pakistan feelings in Congress are pervasive. It is extremely rare to hear pro-Pakistan remarks at congressional hearings.

Anees Hanif adds from Karachi: Referring to the US Congress panel discussion, Sartaj Aziz said on Wednesday that only a section of US legislators thought that Pakistan should be treated as a foe by the United States.

“Their concerns about Afghanistan and Indian propaganda are behind some Congressmen’s views against Pakistan,” he told a news television channel.

He said that the whole Congress realised Pakistan’s importance in the Islamic world and South Asia and in resolving the Afghan issue, excepting some Congressmen who were “either not updated or have some baseless concerns” which “we are striving to address”.

Answering a question, the adviser said Pakistan was acting against all sorts of terrorists according to its own anti-terror plan.

Published in Dawn, July 14th, 2016

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Comments (300) Closed



Ali Jul 14, 2016 08:06am

Typical afghani mentality, I don't think this will effect us much. We are fighting a war against extremists and terrorists at all fronts and every rationally thinking person understands our situation.

Zak Jul 14, 2016 08:18am

Whatever they may say, in the end they will realize we are indispensable, so all this rhetoric will not yield anything for US, Pakistan does not care what US wants or thinks, we work according interests of Pakistan, we never succumb to any pressure from anyone, let this point be made clear to US .

Muslim Medina Jul 14, 2016 08:32am

How ill informed are these congress men. Recent announcement by Americans of having killed a leader of Pakistan Taliban in Afghanistan is a slap on the face of Khalilzad blaming Pakistan of sponsoring terror attacks.

ahsan7979 Jul 14, 2016 08:30am

Its easy to blame our own failures on others...

Kashmiri Nationalist Jul 14, 2016 08:35am

They can end so call "aid" and say goodbye to the transit route through Pakistan simple as that

Traveller Jul 14, 2016 08:40am

I think we should really look within ourselves and acknowledge.

Vorshal Jul 14, 2016 08:49am

@Ali -- Only in Pakistan!

nirbhay.dixit Jul 14, 2016 08:59am

I dont think it means anything...

Dannish Jul 14, 2016 09:08am

No problem. We will stand up and stay strong. No more bullying.

Kaka ji Jul 14, 2016 09:27am

It's time for Pakistan to stand up. Now or never!

Asif Ahmed Jul 14, 2016 09:35am

Unless we focus on our economy we will be addressed by these diatribes

Shazia Jul 14, 2016 09:43am

Foreign Office must take note of comments by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher. He is talking about US support for independence seeking groups in Pakistan. Is it not US involvement in internal affairs of Pakistan? he is challenging Pakistan's sovereignty..... A reply from foreign office is a must.

Saqib Jul 14, 2016 09:40am

We need a strongman like Raheel shareef to steer us out of this mess now.

Hamid shafiq Jul 14, 2016 09:45am

Good decision of USA if cut all assistance to Pakistan because then we can learn to live our own life with our own resources.

Arun-KS Jul 14, 2016 09:49am

No wonder. World wide feelings are just translated into words.

Sixer from Chakwal Jul 14, 2016 09:56am

Dear Congressmen, we Pakistanis find it an opportunity to stand more on our feet, please go ahead and do what you wish to do.

Mady Jul 14, 2016 10:58am

The ideological gap between the two countries civilizations apart (may be couple of centuries).

Sandeep Jul 14, 2016 11:00am

I salute Dawn for publishing this. May it will open eyes of few here.

NAVIK Jul 14, 2016 11:02am

People should watch this debate in youtube before commenting..

MSK Jul 14, 2016 11:04am

Pakistan will do whatever is in its own interest, not according to US wish list.

vmo Jul 14, 2016 11:44am

@Zak - Yes we just want them to keep paying us on time and provide aircrafts for free.

Ironman Jul 14, 2016 12:45pm

Something is wrong. Something is really wrong.

khan Jul 14, 2016 01:12pm

What is foe & friend????, every country work according own interests

Ramesh Nakhwa Jul 14, 2016 01:20pm

@Traveller Time is coming for that.

A shah Jul 14, 2016 01:37pm

Who cares, we have our iron brothers China. They will help us, won't they?

Positive Jul 14, 2016 01:55pm

Shows Pakistan is moving the right dirction after a very long time!

Zak Jul 14, 2016 01:55pm

Name calling does not alter the reality on the ground. The picture shows AIPAC written all over the mans face.

KT Jul 14, 2016 02:09pm

There are two sides of allegations true or false If US is true delegation should visit US to comply with required expectations If US is not true delegation from US should be invited to cross verify their allegations Else this argument will continue till next US elections where more intellectual people will analyze the situation. Keeping quite is not always the best answer !

Surya Kant Jul 14, 2016 02:15pm

@A shah yes. China needs Pakistan badly as of now, specially after ruling on South China sea

Krana Jul 14, 2016 02:15pm

@khan Is it true for iron brother also?

malika Jul 14, 2016 02:24pm

One can be wrong all the time. All can be wrong one time. But all cannot be wrong all the time. Time to introspect

ram Jul 14, 2016 02:27pm

@nirbhay.dixit :- I think, its a wake up call.

ram Jul 14, 2016 02:30pm

@Asif Ahmed :- Well said. hope all Pakistani's have the same views.

ram Jul 14, 2016 02:28pm

I respect a Dawn for its straight and true approach while putting the facts to people.

Mubarak Jul 14, 2016 02:34pm

@Zak since when

Sumit Jul 14, 2016 02:39pm

@Kaka ji never

Nelaraju Jul 14, 2016 02:42pm

@Sandeep well said

Kashmiri Jul 14, 2016 02:49pm

Truth is bitter. US is speaking the truth and world agrees with that.

Ami Merc Jul 14, 2016 02:48pm

US always have problems with Pakistan when there is democracy here. Perhaps its because the democratic decision making is broadly diversified between various institutions and US cant get their dirty work done by arm twisting/buying one man. BTW, Pakistan FO must object to Sen Dana comments inciting ethnic violence in Pakistan.

PAK Patriots Jul 14, 2016 02:51pm

Stuff these US wankers and carry on Pakistan.

Pakistan Zindaabad Pak Army Zindaabad

Kashmiri Jul 14, 2016 02:51pm

Don't forget, Pakistan needs US aid lot more than US needs Pakistan.

For US, afghanistan can be accessed from central-asian republics

asgher Jul 14, 2016 02:51pm

It is strange how US asks Balochistan people to "recognize that US supports them against the leadership"

Isnt this another way of saying "We support a separatist movement in Pakistan called BLA."?

Heads of BLA are living in UK with funding from india by the way..

asgher Jul 14, 2016 02:55pm

Taliban leader gets killed inside Afghanistan by US Drone Strike and we are hosting terrorists? Good joke!

Zaman Shah Jul 14, 2016 02:55pm

It will be good opportunity for Pakistan to say good bye to US aid and "do more slogan". Be aside with china to make a firm policy with reference of stability in region and future economic progress

This is also history Nations who are American foe progress more rapidly

Marcus_715129 Jul 14, 2016 02:57pm

Why dont you guys get it the seriousness of this issue, The USA are endorsing India s view on the break up of Pakistan.

  1. "it came close to challenging the country’s very existence as a sovereign state".

  2. Our response was "Anti-Pakistan feelings in Congress are pervasive. It is extremely rare to hear pro-Pakistan remarks at congressional hearings" Their concerns about Afghanistan and Indian propaganda are behind some Congressmen’s views against Pakistan.

This is what stirs up anti Pakistan sentiments. The fact we don't act. Act now - dismiss the PM and replace him. Border the Afghan border and get rid of the refugees only way to deal with the Afghanis. Re draw the province lines again and give the people of Pakistan national identity so there is no rogue elements. And for crying out loud don't ever think India will be Pakistan friend. It will never be.

asgher Jul 14, 2016 02:57pm

@Hamid shafiq

We already live on our own resources bhai..American aid goes to political leadership and their kids

Angry Pitbull Jul 14, 2016 02:57pm

@asgher

@Muslim Medina

"Taliban leader gets killed inside Afghanistan by US Drone Strike and we are hosting terrorists? Good joke! "

What about the killing of Afghani taliban leader inside pakistan with pakistani passport ?

Arpan Kar Jul 14, 2016 02:59pm

@A shah : Do you have a doubt your all weather friend is going to be by your side? At a certain stage every country has fend for themselves and your all weather is having its own share of problem. So learn to stand on your feet

TALIB HUSSAIN SATTI Jul 14, 2016 02:59pm

It shows Indian vicious propaganda against Pakistan is paying off. Us congressmen are total blank of the ground reality. Pakistan is the only country fighting terrorism on the front lines and suffered a lot as well. US agencies playing a double game in Pakistan. killing Taliban leader Mansoor as soon as he enters in Pakistan borders from Iran, while protecting Mulla fazlullah and likes in Afghanistan to use them against Pakistan when needed.

While, Zalmy Khalil zad , a US national who lusted to wear the crown of Afghan presidentship, a move which Pakistan not supported, is also venting his anger on Pakistan. He is also considered as the instrumental in the failure of US-afghan policy.

Mukul Jul 14, 2016 03:01pm

@Traveller Finally- a voice of reason If the entire world is saying something, it is time to look within

club sandwich Jul 14, 2016 02:59pm

If Pakistan has been treating USA as a 'patsies chumps' and they have been buying it all along, then I must assume Pakistan is the real superpower of the world!

Adeel Jul 14, 2016 03:02pm

very ignorant, these law makers have no idea how Army operate and how these operating taking place in various part of the country. Having said this before the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq was there any terrorism hmm yes only in India Tamil

Bilal Jul 14, 2016 03:06pm

Afghans .. when in need are BROTHERS

and when they get a better position ... THIS IS HOW THEY BEHAVE

What a shameless people

Ami Merc Jul 14, 2016 03:06pm

@Marcus_715129 you have some thoughts.

Harmony-1© Jul 14, 2016 03:07pm

As Owen Bennett-Jones says in his today's article here: "For many Americans and Brits the 2003 Iraq war is seen as not only a disaster for Iraq and its neighbours but also as a DEFEAT of the US and UK forces."

Afghanistan has been no different but a defeat too but these Americans will blame their failures on others!

Bilal Jul 14, 2016 03:10pm

Americans are wise to differentiate ,,,

Francois Jul 14, 2016 03:10pm

Gen. De Gualle was right: countries do not believe in friendships rather in interests!

Ibneadam Jul 14, 2016 03:10pm

I agree Mr Rohrabacher that Pakistani “regime” is repressive and corrupt with its own people and urge the US senate to put pressure on Pakistan to spent the aid money for Health and Education.

Well wisher from India Jul 14, 2016 03:13pm

Pakistan, stand fast. They are vulnerable in Afghanistan, you are strong in CPEC.

Jack Jul 14, 2016 03:10pm

Power of lobbying indeed!

Vishal Jul 14, 2016 03:15pm

This is a result of Pakistan's failed Diplomacy.

Zulu Jul 14, 2016 03:15pm

The whole world knows whose created and sponsored Taliban for decades. And please stop the "Aid". Its not doing any good to the our country anyways. Just making our politicians rich..

Tamil Guru Jul 14, 2016 03:20pm

This is an eye opener for Pakistan to change its foreign policy strategy. The world is not dumb.

Vijayan Jul 14, 2016 03:23pm

@Zak Wow!!! What confidence!!!! People may think you are talking about the most developed,progressive, sophisticated country in the world...

Salman (Kashmir, INDIA) Jul 14, 2016 03:23pm

Golden Words coming from US senators but is anyone listening?

Bakhtiar Ahmad Jul 14, 2016 03:24pm

Is Pakistan thinking only about its own interests? Yes, and it learned this the hard way. Why don’t they talk about May 1950 when Pakistan ditched an invitation from USSR in favor of establishing relations with US, taking the risk of irking a mighty superpower next door. Or of 1960s when we were threatened by the USSR, after US flew U2 planes to spy on USSR using Pakistan’s Badaber base. Or in 1970s when Pakistan, on US’s request, played a crucial role in pulling China away from USSR. Or the 1980s when we were the US’s major ally in defeating USSR for once and all. Or the post 9/11 period when Pakistan worsened its relations with the Taliban, the first ever pro-Pakistan Afghan government. According to one estimate Pakistan has lost $110 B in economy and 60,000 in lives, since 2001. While on the other hand US has always discarded Pakistan, once its purpose has been fulfilled. Whatever they did today is nothing new. Ciao US, until you need Pakistan's help again.

N.Sid Jul 14, 2016 03:25pm

...and the Chilcot inquiry reports points to Britain and US for the creation of ISIS, radicalization in Islamic world, terrorism. And who created Taliban who were yesteryear 'Mujahideens', and the American media never got tired of eulogizing and praising them.

Ronald Reagan has on record said 'Today's Talibans are akin to the US founding fathers and have great acumen' things like that. Who is double crossing whom here, also friend and foe analogue has became mundane and unpractical, only a nations interest is permanent and constant, rest is transactional.

imaan Jul 14, 2016 03:33pm

Never seen such insulting comments. Still leaders in Pakistan reaches to them for money.

Bakhtiar Ahmad Jul 14, 2016 03:32pm

Is Pakistan thinking only about its own interests? Yes, and it learned this the hard way. Why don’t they talk about May 1950 when Pakistan ditched an invitation from USSR in favor of establishing relations with US, taking the risk of irking a mighty superpower next door. Or of 1960s when we were threatened by the USSR, after US flew U2 planes to spy on USSR using Pakistan’s Badaber base. Or in 1970s when Pakistan, on US’s request, played a crucial role in pulling China away from USSR. Or the 1980s when we were the US’s major ally in defeating USSR for once and all. Or the post 9/11 period when Pakistan worsened its relations with the Taliban, the first ever pro-Pakistan Afghan government. According to one estimate Pakistan has lost $110 B in economy and 60,000 in lives, since 2001. While on the other hand US's aid since 2001 accounts for mere $18B. What they did today is nothing new, they have been doing this since ever. Defence pact 1959? sanctions in 1989? Sanctions in 1998? Now?

imaan Jul 14, 2016 03:37pm

@Sixer from Chakwal Where we stand ?

Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Jul 14, 2016 03:37pm

What a serious joke?

Tamil Guru Jul 14, 2016 03:38pm

At last a spade is being called a spade.

Umer Salahuddin Jul 14, 2016 03:41pm

Nothing unexpected. Every time when US has no need of Pakistan it did the same. Our policy makers should keep in mind this fact when making a policy.

Zia Jul 14, 2016 03:44pm

@asgher well said

Harmony-1© Jul 14, 2016 03:46pm

This "friend and foe" dialogue is like the Cowboy Movies of the 60's. The reality is they are smarting from their defeats on their self-inflicted wars!

Gulzar Jul 14, 2016 03:45pm

@Ali Excuse me the report is from Washington not Kaboul.

nithya Jul 14, 2016 03:49pm

@Ali you created the terrorists in the first place... remember. dont blame others.

fahd Jul 14, 2016 03:51pm

Zalmay and current Afghan leadership trying to be more loyal than the king in greed of Indian favors.

Common Afghan loves Pakistan. If Pakistan was playing US than they would not have been able to stay here for so many years.

nithya Jul 14, 2016 03:51pm

@Muslim Medina did you mean, how well informed ?

nithya Jul 14, 2016 03:53pm

@ahsan7979 well said.

Sixer from Chakwal Jul 14, 2016 03:55pm

@imaan We are moving gradually though slowly. Slowly because of the people we voted; such kind of meeting could have been held by us to decide America friend or foe if we have voted people like Imran Khan

Deling Jul 14, 2016 03:53pm

@asgher

where was osama killed ? where was mullah omar killed ? and Mansor as well ?

jawaid Jul 14, 2016 03:57pm

It shows the immense and by-default hatred against Pakistan. They are totally incapable to realize the sacrifices rendered and cost incurred by Pakistan due to terrorism.

Azmeen Jul 14, 2016 04:01pm

Afghan's are thankless. More than 3 million Afghans are living in Pak as refugees but Afghan leadership always talk & act against Pak.

Angry Pitbull Jul 14, 2016 03:58pm

I think there are so many Donald trump in USA with different names.

Sami Khan Jul 14, 2016 04:02pm

If all of us, Pakistanis, pay their due share of taxes then there will be no need of aid from any country

Imran Jul 14, 2016 04:04pm

Good Luck USA with sanctions n stuff... About time really.More of a dooms day sceniro for the entire region. India.... Shoulder to shoulder mate.if we go down we surely will take u with us . Ur lot should worry about that. There is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan .. Period ..

S. A. M. Jul 14, 2016 04:11pm

afghans the most unthankful nation on earth. khalilzad dares to say that Pakistan won't give anything unless they got something in return. what did we get in return from by letting you afghans in millions into Pakistan.

Sandeep Jul 14, 2016 04:14pm

Almost everybody in this forum is asking US to stop the Aid. Yet to hear the same from the politicians of Pakistan.

Tamil Guru Jul 14, 2016 04:16pm

How come no statements or comments on this subcommittee meeting from the FO.?

Razi Jul 14, 2016 04:21pm

So its a testimony that the US has been defeated in Afghanistan and they need some face covering.

Menon Jul 14, 2016 04:25pm

@Kashmiri Nationalist

Unimportant, since Russia and Central Asian countries, have agreed to provide transit.

lafanga Jul 14, 2016 04:27pm

US is playing the classic game of good cop bad cop routine. The good cop was Sen John McCain who visited last week to praise Pakistan and now the bad cops have come up to lecture Pakistan and threaten it.

US cannot attack Pakistan, it cannot simply threaten it's way with Pakistan so they are trying the third approach. Obviously they want Pakistan to do something which is in no way Pakistan's national interest. What is this? They want Pakistan to fight and defeat Afghan Taliban which they could not do in 13 years and in the process make Pakistan so weak that they can just walk in take out the nukes ... which is what is actually bothering the US and India.

Tariq Jul 14, 2016 04:25pm

Its time Pak let US feel we are a 200 milion country, we have supported them enough, and us has only weaken pak. such move could also strengthen the pak gov support.

M. Siddique Jul 14, 2016 04:34pm

Khalilzad is an Indian paid. Both are sworn enemy of Pakistan. US still needs Pakistan until such time Pakistan leadership screws up the foreign policy completely. Pakistan leadership should consider this as warning shots from Washington.

Bharat Jul 14, 2016 04:34pm

No need for Pakistan to worry. Pakistan has done so much good for the US About time they appreciated it In any case, Pakistan has China . Now they are unstoppable Without Pakistan, the US is lost.

M. Siddique Jul 14, 2016 04:36pm

@Muslim Medina, Yes, US Congressmen have shallow knowledge of ground realities but unfortunately they can be a large influence of US foreign policy if the majority party also wins the White House.

S. A. M. Jul 14, 2016 04:42pm

@Bharat I think it's all aimed at stopping CPEC from getting functional. but it will be completed to bring prosperity to our country Pakistan InshaAllah

lafanga Jul 14, 2016 04:46pm

Breakup of Pakistan is just a pipe dream of the Americans and Indians. Yes the Indians caught Pakistan off guard in 1971 but this is 2016 now. Unless the US does a full frontal attack on Pakistan, which they will never do and neither will India, their dream of breaking up Pakistan will remain as it is.

This is not to say that they won't try but kudos to Gen Raheel Sharif and Zarb e azb that it identified and eliminated most of the anti Pakistan elements in Baluchistan and KPK and also Sindh. Capture of Kulbushan Jhadev was a huge break. Since then many Afghan security personnel have been caught as well.

This is an American reaction to CPEC and Pakistan getting closer to China and not doing American dirty work as Pakistan have been doing in the past.

Feroz Jul 14, 2016 04:47pm

Pakistani policy makers must congratulate themselves for having brought their country to this sorry pass. Why the country has not sacked these so called foreign policy experts and mandarins remains a mystery. first to go should be the Ambassador to the UN and the US, alongside Advisors Aziz and Fatemi.

sak Jul 14, 2016 04:48pm

Long run it will be great for Pakistan live without US handout, no more a puppet of US policy.

TM Jul 14, 2016 04:48pm

If Pakistan stop supporting US in Afghanistan, within days, US will be on its knees. They also know this .Hence this entire exercise of congressional hearing will have no effect on the ground. The geographical location of Pakistan is such that, without the help of Pakistan, there will be no peace in South East Asia, mainly in Afghanistan. Americans know this and Afghans also know but pretend as if they do not know.

Siraj Jul 14, 2016 04:51pm

The fact that such harsh comments were made, whether baseless or outdated, points to failure of our foreign policy/ lobbying. We should take it seriously because pervasiveness of such thoughts will affect US policy, sooner or later. Don't be fooled by our foreign office excuses that these were wrong or baseless concern or outdated thinking. Even if it's true, it's existence shows a sloppy job done

sak Jul 14, 2016 04:54pm

@imaan It is for there kids to have foreign account not for Pakistan.

junaid khan Jul 14, 2016 04:57pm

US Congress continues to use Pak as it's whipping boy for its own failures in Afghanistan & it's state terrorism which created ISIS!

Asif Ahmed Jul 14, 2016 04:55pm

To all those who are disappointed with the comments/allegations/ etc etc by the US Congress Panel:

  1. Beggars are not choosers. Stop Begging and Pakistan will Change
  2. There is always substance to a Foreign Policy. Why we are failing time and again is because that we do not have that substance. And that substance is Economy
  3. Economy develops with long term strategies focusing on education and business in the country. We have yet to think over it
  4. You accept it or not; Might is Right. Good Economy will make you Might
  5. Pakistan has to inculcate tolerance in the society without which Economy will not improve. Investors exist in the form of different religions/sects/casts/creeds/nationalities and they should feel safe
  6. Regional cooperation is indispensable. Pakistan should unilaterally end hostilities with India and engage in education and economic activities with all countries in the region
junaid khan Jul 14, 2016 04:55pm

US Congress continues to use Pak as it's whipping boy for its own failures in Afghanistan & it's state terrorism which created ISIS!

THE TRUTH Jul 14, 2016 04:56pm

nd what was india's reply TO INTERNAL KASHMIR ISSUE , let's keep mum as it undermines all our big tALK

moe2 Jul 14, 2016 04:58pm

Past leaders of Pakistan and present sold out Pakistani political leadership continues to blindly follow the self serving and foreign powers agenda rather than what is best for interests of Pakistan. Afghanistan is using the opportunity for itself by blaming its problems on Pakistan while Pakistan continues to follow a policy of trying to please everyone at the same time.

Imran Jul 14, 2016 04:58pm

What this panel has achieved is remarkable because it has brought out in the open was was being said behind closed doors. The world order has changed post Cold War and the US is no longer our ally.

Iqbal Malik Jul 14, 2016 05:07pm

Before these relations get more worst, US and Pakistan should bring their relations to minimum possible level. We both will be better off with no assistance and no dictation. Let USA have honey moon with India.

Ghaznavi Jul 14, 2016 05:07pm

"“Khalilzad-- My experience in dealing with Pakistan is that they will only give you something when they know that they are going to get something,”

Most foolish statement by anyone ever on the senate floor.

dawn Jul 14, 2016 05:08pm

MRS USA, Taliban is your creation-you deal with them. Or say plainly that you don't need Pakistan anymore now that you have 'other' friends.

Faisal Jul 14, 2016 05:09pm

Americans finally waking up to reality.

Junaid Shabaz Jul 14, 2016 05:11pm

Some of these so called "experts" are bribed by the Indian lobby and have no idea of the losses made, in blood and treasure, by Pakistan. They are all misguided, brainwashed, Bring them to Pakistan and let them see first hand what has been achieved on the ground.

Red Jul 14, 2016 05:13pm

@Bakhtiar Ahmad so pakistan was doing all US work for free?

Asad Jul 14, 2016 05:15pm

A third world country treating the world's superpower as "chumps" - clearly we are so awesome that even America bahadur is afraid of us!

OMG, what is the world coming to! Hilarious indeed

Zealot Jul 14, 2016 05:18pm

This blame game will continue.the solution is to make the border secure.we must engage with obama administration and should not care about these lousy people.now aps mastermind killed.negotiation should start now

Noru Jul 14, 2016 05:17pm

@MSK "Pakistan will do whatever is in its own interest, not according to US wish list."

What about Drone attacks .. you forget.

Red Jul 14, 2016 05:22pm

@Asif Ahmed great comments, shooting the messenger i.e. USA will not help here...introspection/ non emotional logical thinking is the answer....leave certain foreign policies i.e. terrorism which is debasing Pak's reputation abroad.

Zealot Jul 14, 2016 05:21pm

@Ali ofcourse but we must appreciate if Afghanis did a bit for us.....we must take US into confidence and should deploy our troops in afghanistan where we will not only train afghan soldiers but will encourage a confidence building measure between two forces.the lack of engagement with afghanistan and to US now .i guess we will miss key role in Afghanistan which US is awarding to Indians.foreign office should wake up

yaqut khan Jul 14, 2016 05:29pm

america can't be a trutworthy ..pakistan should look for china and russia and say good bye to america

shahid Jul 14, 2016 05:29pm

These panels are for show only. Do not expect fighting to go away in Afghanistan becasue fighting is a good paying job, and there are no other jobs. Income from farming goes to the local war lords.

Last Word Jul 14, 2016 05:35pm

US Congressional panel has made it very clear to Pakistan to choose between US or the strategic assets as its friend.

Zealot Jul 14, 2016 05:38pm

@Asif Ahmed exactly 1 the chiniot gold reserves worth billions of dollars can play a pivotal role to our economy 2 the strategic trade policy 2015 -2018 where plans are made if culminated will boast our industrial sector SME and other and for that public private partnership required 3 pakistan is highly indegenus in producing electricity .only thar coal reserves is enough to provide electricity for 300 years having 10000MW capacity forget others just required public private partnership.i can mention thousands of such things that can lead our country to glory 4 but why it wasnot successful? Cooruption...you know all pakistanis involve in panama leak scandal having 100billion dollars combine.if such things exists and no accountibility then i will second your thoughts

Reality Jul 14, 2016 05:42pm

@Ali , Pakistan Wants good relation with Afghanistan and don't want Afghan ties with India. Only if Taliban is in power in Afghanistan, Pakistan can have that scenario. So Pakistan has to support Taliban. Problem is Pakistan not openly admits it, It says yes to US but supports Taliabn for it's interest. It is a truth that everyone know, no one cares to admit. So don't be blind on one side. Lets know the truth and work for own interest.

DKM Jul 14, 2016 05:44pm

I did notice from all the comments that the truth is hurting Pakistanis very badly. It will be advisable to open your ears, eyes and more importantly your mind also and see how the entire world is talking and perceiving you and your country.

CALCUTTA MAN Jul 14, 2016 05:45pm

@Asif Ahmed

Your voice is one of reason and balanced introspection. But I am afraid few will listen to you or share yours views in Pakistan. Sanity doesn't get one votes or TRP ratings... filibustering does. So you'll find a plethora of "yeh karenge woh karenge" comments. Welcome to the World of ZAK.

Basit Ali Jul 14, 2016 05:51pm

@Bakhtiar Ahmad Great points sir, put in all it seems we went head on (willingly) to please them. Not their fault

IA Jul 14, 2016 05:49pm

Nothing but high level of age old anti Pakistani hate among some of the Americans (with a hateful afghani among them). They are supporter of terrorism in Pakistani Baluchistan, KPK, Punjab and Sindh! They can continue to spew all the hate they want but Pakistan is here to stay!

Black Hawk Jul 14, 2016 05:49pm

US is supporting powers to divide Pakistan,get hold of American agents within Pakistan.We should do what's in the interest of our country.Mostly Jew,Indian and Afgani lobbies active in US against Pakistan.

Najjee Jul 14, 2016 05:52pm

Pakistan is economically improving and getting better and it is a threat to them? That tells you that we should be careful regarding our friends.

Salim Jul 14, 2016 06:15pm

Money talks. Paltry campaign contributions by Indian lobby to these corrupt senators blind them to the truth. They certainly are not able to see 60 thousand plus Kashmiris killed by Indian "security forces ". Money talks and money mutes!!!

DocOne Jul 14, 2016 06:18pm

We are indispensable. We are strategically located. We control the land routes. We are the victims. We lost thousands of lives. We lost billions. We sheltered millions of refugees. Yet they blame us.Time for introspection. And embracing China is not the answer. It's just a knee jerk reaction.

Face it Jul 14, 2016 06:25pm

@DKM how you can open your mind if it is locked by corruption, nepotism, extremism, and exploitation. Change has to come from the top.

I endorse your analysis.

Red Jul 14, 2016 06:28pm

@CALCUTTA MAN yes, everyone here only want to prove that their country is better than the neighbour....full machismo, but will that solve the problem which requires a voice of reason?

Fayaz Jul 14, 2016 06:30pm

Now is the time for Pakistan to say NO. No to any aide or assistance, at the same time Pakistan needs to to review it's loyalties (learn from Turkey).

ADy Jul 14, 2016 06:30pm

Pakistani Enemies are speaking loudly, send the Afghans out of Pak and close boards with them , let them rely 0nly on India and America

Baltistani Jul 14, 2016 06:40pm

One of the biggest arm producer and the 'Contractor' of world peace who once created 'Taliban' for 'PEACE'. Now it sees Taliban as hurdle for peace. What a hypocricy it is?

omar Jul 14, 2016 06:47pm

The Questions is can they afford Pakistan as foe ?? It is 4 largest Nuclear Power bigger than North Korea has a strategic geographic location, has options towards influencing and partnering with Soviet, china, and Islamic world.

USA should be thankful to have Pakistan as an Ally since they have not experienced Pakistan as a foe like the Soviets have!

rehaan Jul 14, 2016 06:53pm

@Muslim Medina That leader was apparently not killed by Pakistan, but by American Drone attack.

Soman Jul 14, 2016 06:55pm

@Asif Ahmed Right attitude, self help is best help, good luck, we both need it

Salma Asia Jul 14, 2016 07:04pm

Every so often some hot blooded paper shuffler in the US congress gets an itch to bully and bamboozle Pakistan. Such people usually are friends of our unfriendly neighbours, such as India or Afghanistan. Sometimes, the lobbyists find it easy to sway opinions of congressmen, just by dangling a few incentives before them. But history has shown, whenever the US has turned on Pakistan, it has always come to regret it. Back in the day, it was congressmen Larry Pressler, with his Pressler amendment against Pakistan.

R.S. Menon. Jul 14, 2016 07:04pm

Everybody is criticizing USA for creating Taliban and now abandoning. Just think of the outcome if USA did not interfere with the Russian occupation of the Afghanistan and did not support Taliban with arms and ammunition and training. Russia would have been still occupying Afghanistan and creating problems in KPK for Greater Afghanistan which includes the Pasthun areas of the KPK.

R.S. Menon, Bangalore

Sajed Syed Jul 14, 2016 07:08pm

@Asif Ahmed Very true, but with a small addition, let us make our economy strong and not waste our energies in politicking too much and meddling in neighbors' affairs.

A. Rashid Jul 14, 2016 07:13pm

The whole content of this hearing is biased against Pakistan because it is full of blames thrown at us. Pakistan lost thousands of it citizens due to Afghan war and ensuing terrorism as a result but there is no mention of our peoples sufferings . We are not perfect but trying to make us scapegoat and putting entire blame on Pakistan is anything but objective. The language which has been used is disrespecting and is suspect that anti Pakistan lobby is at work with its full force of funding.

valache S Jul 14, 2016 07:13pm

@Marcus_715129 what for India should become friend with pak

KN Jul 14, 2016 07:17pm

Pakistan is losing all financial support from US. Things are getting worse

lovethyneigbour Jul 14, 2016 07:31pm

................and at some points it came close to challenging the country’s very existence as a sovereign state.........FO may like to respond........a strong secular and democratic prosperous nation is the need for the younger generation......all other issues are secondary

shahzad Jul 14, 2016 07:32pm

@R.S. Menon. Very true.

s.khan Jul 14, 2016 07:37pm

@malika , unfortunately USA is wrong all the time. They miscalculate continuously partly due to their ignorance of outside world and partly due to their hubris. Both are the recipes for failure. USA has failed in every misadventure overseas.

Tamil Guru Jul 14, 2016 07:53pm

Pakistani leadership should take this US joint sub committee meeting very seriously. This could seriously impact students and normal Pakistani people travelling to the US.

سے Shaam (Hanafi) Jul 14, 2016 07:56pm

People are saying US created Taliban, who do you think supported the US in creating Taliban? Did US have any local reach in tribal belts for creating Taliban? Who took millions in dollars for training the Taliban?

Vijay Jul 14, 2016 08:01pm

@Shazia Sure Dana Roherbacher is meddling in the internal affairs. The question is what is Pakistan going to do about it?

Well wisher from India Jul 14, 2016 08:09pm

@Arun-KS A few lobbyists paid by one country does not make it "worldwide" feeling. Wake up from your false world.

NewDelhi Jul 14, 2016 08:10pm

This is a so good article. Love it.

Zak Jul 14, 2016 08:13pm

Unfortunately, this is not democracy but greed of lobbyists,mwho for money attack American interests abroad. Pakistan is American interest and only lifeline to Afghanistan.

N_Saq Jul 14, 2016 08:16pm

First - US is right, Pak needs to eliminate all terrorist from its soil and then focus on elimination of radicalism and extremism by regulating the Mosques, Madrassahs and Seminaries. It is in Pak own interest otherwise these elements will destroy Pak.

Second - there is no need to pick a fight with the worlds sole super power. I think it is time Pak needs to revisit its policies and the foreign office should work hard to project a good image of Pak all around the world.

Pak is in a tight spot right now because of being Chines ally as China and US do not see eye to eye anymore. What Pak needs is someone who has a dual US and Pak nationality as their Foreign Minister. Someone who has lived in US for a long time and understand US and US systems i.e. Shaukat Aziz. Someone who speaks and understand US language. Someone US can relate to and trust.

The current lot running Pak foreign affairs are useless. I am not sure why Pak policy makers can't read the signs and think/act accordingly?

KRISHNAN Jul 14, 2016 08:18pm

@Asif Ahmed wow. What a far sighted approach. If only your politicians also start thinking on the same lines.

Farhan Jul 14, 2016 08:20pm

@Kashmiri Nationalist How much revenue share do Azad Kashmir have in CPEC?

DE Jul 14, 2016 08:42pm

@Muslim Medina yes we also caught Indian state sponsored terrorist kulbhashan and other stoo

Dr. Farooq Khan Jul 14, 2016 08:47pm

Americans concern are maybe right that Pakistan army is not fighting with Haqqani group but I want to ask what Americans achieved by fighting? Reality is that the route cause of this terrorism are deep and it cannot be cut by just kicking out these guys. It will destablize Pakistan. We need education, jobs and technological development otherwise people will say Libya was better with Qaddafee, Iraq was better with Saddam. Thanks for not removing Basha-rul Asad.

Pardesi Jul 14, 2016 08:50pm

We will do everything in our capacity to secure our own national and political interests!

anony Jul 14, 2016 08:49pm

This is what we get for fighting someone else's war. May the US dare challenge India on exporting terrorism into Pakistan through Afghanistan? I bet not.

Enough of this hypocracy.

Abdul wahab Jul 14, 2016 08:51pm

I know it hurts, but there is truth in it. You cannot cheat people all the time.

Bharat Jul 14, 2016 08:57pm

Finally, US is making up its mind slowly but surely, it seems.

Jawad Asif Jul 14, 2016 09:04pm

I will be much thankful to them if they totally cut Pak Aid. This aid is not of any use to pakistani people. The only use of this aid is to buy some puppets in Pak.

This cut in the aid will further strengthen us and let us stand on our own feet.

He has no right to talk on own internal affairs.

pee2p Jul 14, 2016 09:03pm

@Bakhtiar Ahmad Got paid for those! !!

Riaz M M Jul 14, 2016 09:06pm

We Pakistanis have the same question since 1960s, Is USA a friend or a foe,our experience is that in every hour of need it badly failed to help us.

ahsan7979 Jul 14, 2016 09:08pm

Perhaps Pakistan should reach out to African Americans and raise voice for their rights and let them know that people of Pakistan stand with them. They are being brutally killed by US police almost every other day...Not only that they are systematically abused, such that they have the highest school drop out rates. Black youth unemployment stands today at staggering 51%... Red Indians the original people of the land are a whole another topic on which books and books can be written...

ahsan7979 Jul 14, 2016 09:13pm

Any relationship in life needs mutual respect. US people know it, but apparently their leadership and these sitting in congress do not..

Vikram Sood Jul 14, 2016 09:17pm

If someone looks within, then they will realize how bad the image problem of Pakistan is, but with Pakistan keeping quiet with each such issue, it reinforces the worldview! Pakistan must course correct.

ADD Jul 14, 2016 09:24pm

@ZAK Nobody is indispensable. Saddam thought he was indispensable as well.

Safdar Jul 14, 2016 09:26pm

@Asif Ahmed what hostilities? You must be an expat Pakistani watching western media to come up with that idea....why don't people like you forget about the proxy war that India fought in Pakistan in Baluchistan and Karachi for years...?? Were these not hostilities??

asad Jul 14, 2016 09:29pm

What a bunch of looser.... you are more than welcome to cut any aid to pakistan. Pak people have been crying loud to cut aid for decades.

tariq Jul 14, 2016 09:34pm

Will somebody Please present the book"FRIENDS NOT MASTERS" to these congress man!

Kamal Jul 14, 2016 09:37pm

Khalidzad is a great champion of Indian lobby and has always being an anti Pakistani.

What a mess he made in IRAQ and We should completely cut transit routes and kick all the Afghanistanis of Pakistan.

khan Jul 14, 2016 09:35pm

@Zak : Congrats, you have recognized well.

Safdar Jul 14, 2016 09:38pm

@ahsan7979 great point and also mention to US that it should do more to improve its human rights record

Imran Altaf Jul 14, 2016 10:18pm

Best result for Pakistan is a complete blackout from USA - Pakistan will have to stand on its own two feet, no more aid by the billions, no more looting by PML-N & PPP taking turns. Cut off the supply, clean out the mess & banish US drones from our airspace.

khan Jul 14, 2016 10:23pm

@TALIB HUSSAIN SATTI : That's right, Indian vicious propaganda against Pakistan is paying off, and ignorant Us congressmen unaware of the ground realities are also playing in the hands of Indian lobbyists.

The Indian Jul 14, 2016 10:27pm

@Surya Kant - Actually they both need each other at this horrible time.

khan Jul 14, 2016 10:30pm

@Bakhtiar Ahmad : Great, all the facts that clearly show the selfish nature of U.S.

Himanshu Jul 14, 2016 10:35pm

Pakistan will be in big trouble. Without US aid difficult to fight against terrorists groups. Obama rightly quote that Pakistan soil will be in trouble for few decades. Pakistan does not have sound financial back up nor have good leadership to get more foreign investment.

LAEEQ, NY Jul 14, 2016 10:33pm

These are Indian and Afghan mouth piece at their best!

khan Jul 14, 2016 10:38pm

@Angry Pitbull : Well said.

khan Jul 14, 2016 10:37pm

@Imran : Bravo!

Sunil Jul 14, 2016 10:40pm

@s.khan you say US have failed , BUT the fact is US is No 1 country in the WORLD.

khan Jul 14, 2016 10:46pm

@lafanga : Well said, facts, nothing but facts.

Zak Jul 14, 2016 10:45pm

@Kashmiri ..so why not take central asia route, reason ,they tried and it was more costly.....so back to pakistan.

RealMan Jul 14, 2016 10:55pm

@asad

RealMan Jul 14, 2016 10:57pm

@asad You are fed up by government by using this money..

Harmony-1© Jul 14, 2016 10:59pm

@KRISHNAN - That is exactly the problem - "politicians"! Who doesn't want investment in human resources? Unless, these plundering politicians (and whoever else) are held accountable nothing much can ever change - there is got to be fear of law!

khan Jul 14, 2016 11:03pm

@Black Hawk : Hey, we know which countries are busy trying real hard to destabilize Pakistan.

optimistic Jul 14, 2016 11:07pm

So some Indians and Israeli paid agents in US congress have oozed out poisonous foam against Pakistan. Pakistan is doing what it has to do.

khan Jul 14, 2016 11:10pm

@Salma Asia : Very well recognized.

Muneeb Ali Jul 14, 2016 11:23pm

present this committee story of Owen Bennett.Jones "CLUELESS IN IRAQ", SO this time they may not need to start another inquiry for their failure. A failure that can destabilize another country and perhaps the entire region or the entire world. Because this country is a nuclear state. Games like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria in Pakistan will not only result in anarchy in Subcontinent but havoc in entire world. Nuclear weapon will be used as fire crackers. if the world is ready, then such malicious propaganda should be welcomed. After all it's from USA, whatever they touch turns into ashes!

dPatel Jul 14, 2016 11:31pm

@Shazia "...comments by Congressman Dana Rohrabacher. .....is challenging Pakistan's sovereignty....." 2 decades ago, Pakistan was flying high and was fully supporting Rohrabacher when he was openly pushing for creating Khalistan out of India's East Punjab province. Now the same situation is coming back to Pakistan to bite. India was not getting any aid from USA. He changed his views after he paid a visit to India.

Khan Jul 14, 2016 11:39pm

It's always the same few congressmen. Meanwhile four powerful senators just visited Pakistan and came back with a greatly improved image of Pakistan. That matters much more

Rehman Jul 14, 2016 11:40pm

The main problem is we depend on the US for financial aid. If we are willing to stop taking their aid, then it will simply not matter what they think of us, and we can be completely independent. That is the only way to get back our dignity.

Khan Jul 14, 2016 11:40pm

Congressman Salmon is retiring, leaving Rohrabacher, Poe, and Gabbard as the main anti Pakistan group in the House. The 500+ other congressmen usually defer to high level congressmen such as Lindsay Graham and John McCain who just visited Pakistan.

Tamza Jul 14, 2016 11:48pm

Most of these Congressmen have been bought and paid for by India lobbyists. The US has the 'best congress money can but' [check out book by that name from sbout 10 years ago]. Quite recently an Indian was 'forced to resign' because his appointment to the Chicago Commodity [or some similar agency] was 'ordered' by 'high govt officials', even though he has no qualifications. He had 'contributed' over $100k to a related politician.

Zealot Jul 14, 2016 11:56pm

@asad that is pakistan should be for all out

Kailash Jul 14, 2016 11:58pm

Not a single Pakistani is ready to look within. Nevertheless, one writes his own destiny. They had so many chances to course correct. Make all jingoistic comments today and keep denying the truth; but know that you chose this path for yourself. Don't point fingers at others tomorrow.

Lakhkar Khan Jul 14, 2016 11:57pm

@Nelaraju

All you Indians would agree, no wonder why.

Talha Jul 15, 2016 12:21am

While Dana Rohrabacher keeps his eyes shut on the killing of innocent Kashmiris, he shamelessly interferes in the mattter of our soverign state.

Talha Jul 15, 2016 12:23am

It is so good to see a strong response from our fellow Pakistanis in the comments sections and the numerous recommendations they got. There is always strength in unity. If we ourselves demand our govt. to stop taking aid from USA then they would have to do it no matter what.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 12:48am

@Krana incase your media hides it, China declared Pakistan 'iron brother'. So it's a brother relationship, not like newly formed US madter- Indian Babu seasonal friendship.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 12:51am

@NAVIK watch Michael Schueur , ex head of anti terrorism,on Pakistan and ISI on Al Jazeera.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 12:53am

@vmo why you complaining, you already took from them the most , to date. Google it.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 12:55am

@Marcus_715129 good genuine advice from an Indian who understands follies of his own government.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 01:14am

@Farhan All in Pakistan will share equally in the massive wealth generated by CPEC

Zak Jul 15, 2016 01:16am

@khan that's why we have their testi-monials , that the route to US forces, leads via Pakistan.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 01:18am

@Traveller we did and realised, we really are great.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 01:20am

@TALIB HUSSAIN SATTI india has no influence what so ever, but it is AIPAC , which takes instructions from Israel, that calls the shots. And Israel has decided to use India as a Babu, as per Ben Gurions statement in 1967. India is being used.

Zak Jul 15, 2016 01:22am

@lafanga well said, except India is irrelevant but US is turning out to be a dangerous friend.

SALEM Jul 15, 2016 01:28am

US wants to assign roles to each country, everywhere. India has meekly accepted but Pakistan has defied some of the assignments, hence the vicious heat.

Marcus_715129 Jul 15, 2016 02:17am

@N_Saq - totally agree with you

MG Jul 15, 2016 02:33am

@asad easier said than done

MG Jul 15, 2016 02:37am

@Abdul wahab Abdul hope more people like you start to introspect and look at what needs to be changed

MG Jul 15, 2016 02:39am

@N_Saq well said - logical hope your country men get your point

MG Jul 15, 2016 02:38am

why constant comparison with India we are a strong economy, progressing at fast rate with good education and technology No comparison

David Jul 15, 2016 03:23am

He is not wrong

Robi Jul 15, 2016 03:42am

@Zak It cares when it begs for US Aid. So become self reliant before you use big words

Jamshed10@hotmail.com Jul 15, 2016 03:54am

The pakistsni foreign office must act and send delegations to all us congressman and senators telling about the achievements made in the fight against terror and how Pakistsn has been instrumental in helping American fight against talibans. The corrupt afghan regime must be thrown out in the open, plus all the afghans in Pakistan must be sent back along with any trade facilities to Afghanistan immediately withdraw. God bless the USA & Pak friendship.

ibmx Jul 15, 2016 04:20am

The only comments and opinion that will bear some weight is in this US Lawmakers language? What did Pakistan not do for the Congressman to arrive at this point of view?

Khalid Jul 15, 2016 04:39am

Now my country leadership will say. We do not have problem in Pakistan, it is international conspiracy.

Ram Narayanan Jul 15, 2016 05:44am

@Salman (Kashmir, INDIA) : I and many others ARE listening.

adil Jul 15, 2016 06:32am

Khalilzad, why don't you clean your own middle East mess before blaming Pakistan? You and your company have to take care of your wrong policy, for decade your troops are in Afghanistan doing what there? You do more and not us, don't need your aids, get your troops there and face your nightmares and don't come crying for further help.

Jim Beam Jul 15, 2016 07:09am

@Adeel Please fet your history right.

jam shed Jul 15, 2016 08:12am

@Surya Kant I don't think Pakistan siding China will make iota of a difference. China has learned to stand on its own and face US effectively. Short of any war or a skirmish China will show its muscles as China is standing on good ground.

Agha Ata Jul 15, 2016 08:38am

They say so because Pakistan is a Muslim country.

Farhan Jul 15, 2016 08:47am

Why our Pakistan go to UN and tell that these congressmen are RAW agents and provide dossier to prove this? RAW is everywhere now and harming us.

abdul wahid Jul 15, 2016 08:52am

We must abandon the stupid ideology of people like zak and lafanga who always have the delusion that we are a supremely rich, powerful and indispensable nation. It's time for retrospective. Our worldwide image and reputation have gone down the drain. I have been staying in Europe for the last 10 years. Before I use to feel proud to identify myself as a Pakistani. Now people look at me with double suspicion if they come to know that I am a Pakistani. Some of my friends here even say that they are Indians to prevent hatred and xenophobia towards them. Why is the whole world hating us and shunning us so much? You would say that the Indians are paying the whole world to hate us? Are the Indians that rich? Let us stop this stupid ideology of playing victims of worldwide conspiracy. We must improve our economy and stop playing with afghani terrorists. We must remove the radical elements amongst us. Let us regain the respect that we havery lost.

Manu Jul 15, 2016 08:56am

American supply route to Afghanistan will be increasingly through Chahbahar. US no longer Pak dependent hence wont behave like chumps and chimps any longer,

Econ101 Jul 15, 2016 09:14am

So US legislators and policy makers admit that they have been easily manipulated for decades? Some chumps!!!

AK Jul 15, 2016 09:29am

Americans get angry with anyone who do not agree to look only after their interests or disagree with them.

Such behaviours and attitudes do no help in the long run.

Aziz Jul 15, 2016 09:39am

Most of these people do not even know where Pakistan is. They could not point it out on a map. Khalilzad is an Indian-Afghani puppet who works as a hired hand and even against the interest of Afghan people.

P L Bakhshi Jul 15, 2016 09:50am

Pakistan should be ashamed of the bashing they got by the congressmen of their long standing ally America. Mr. Khalizad was all guns blazing on Pakistani authorities. How can Pakistan deny that OSA kept their official coffers all along reverberating with USA's glistening Dollars. You have to admit that you are not honest in dealing with the menace of terrorism. There is no Good and Bad terrorist. Terrorist is a malignant cancer, which knows only destruction, it can be self destruction also, to destroy the same tissue or organ from which it developed. Sartaj Aziz must analyse the bashing on an off day when he will be not too tense and comparatively peaceful

GAK Wazir Jul 15, 2016 09:51am

A very stupid panel of US lawmakers making false propaganda against Pakistan that put every thing at stake for their sake. Was it not Pakistan that stood cheek by jowl with the US in the worst Afghan war and defeated USSR? Was it not Pakistan which set its own country ablaze but protected Washington from the fire? What "Chump and Patsy" are you talking about Mr. Matt Salmon and Khalil Zaday? Pakistan is not sponsoring terrorism; it is cleaning the Augean Stables left by your presence in the region.

raviraj Jul 15, 2016 09:52am

Bitter Truth. Realized very late. But it's better to be late than never.

julius machado Jul 15, 2016 10:08am

@TALIB HUSSAIN SATTI If you are fighting terrorism why does the Pakistan Govt. support terrorists who target India?

JD Jul 15, 2016 10:11am

@lafanga "Yes the Indians caught Pakistan off guard in 1971 but this is 2016 now. " Go read some actual history. The reasons for Bangladesh's separation have nothing to do with India. The whole fiasco was started by the West Pakistanis who could never accept a Bangladeshi as the chief of united Pakistan. Get over your perennial hatred of India.

Kabir Jul 15, 2016 10:11am

Pakistan should not listen to any one . It is just a western propaganda against Pakistan and it is motivated by Indian lobbying . I would like Pakistan to continue on their righteous path .

From a friendly Indian

Sachin Jul 15, 2016 10:32am

Sartaz, like other Pakistani politicians, is taking cover of alleged Indian & Afghan propaganda instead of accepting the failure of his office on diplomatic front. This man needs immediate retirement as he believes only diplomacy using telephone connections and writing letters.

jayant Jul 15, 2016 11:05am

you can not stop taking aid from pakistan because your country run on it.. thats a truth

Sehan Jul 15, 2016 11:19am

First the MAP of divided Pakistan And Now This..All Part of the "THE GREAT GAME".Let see whose win at the End.

hxb Jul 15, 2016 11:21am

Blind enough to see India's state terrorism in Kashmir!

Sibghat Ullah Khan Jul 15, 2016 11:26am

@Kashmiri Nationalist it is easier said than done

Inzy Again Jul 15, 2016 12:12pm

@Bakhtiar Ahmad "According to one estimate Pakistan has lost $110 B in economy and 60,000 in lives, since 2001."

We should stop being a beggar strategically displaying his maimed limbs for alms. As a independent and presumably sovereign nation, we should display self respect and deal with our problems on our own, as it is in our interests.

Mustafa Jul 15, 2016 12:35pm

@Sami Khan "If all of us, Pakistanis, pay their due share of taxes then there will be no need of aid from any country"

That is very well said !

83.4pc of the households in Balochistan 70.8pc in Sindh, 67.4 in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and 65.6 in Punjab cannot afford the recommended diet, report by the Planning Commission Pakistan. Yet we are bothered about US aid, CPEC and Kashmir.

Hamza Shahzad Jul 15, 2016 12:48pm

@Azmeen You are right.

Sal India Jul 15, 2016 01:22pm

@abdul wahid : Very well said.

John Jul 15, 2016 01:43pm

Pakistan should put suit on all these people in international tribunal for interfering in Pakistani affairs and spreading violence in Pakistan. Pakistan should keep close records of all involved in these meetings and their associates and stop their visa entries in Pakistan.

Bush Jul 15, 2016 01:49pm

The meeting appears to be planning terrorism in Pakistan. Pakistan need more help from China to put complaint in UN and ban these congressmen from spreading terrorism in Pakistan. If they show up or their associates, they should immediately be send to military tribunal. No place for terrorists in world, does not matter made in Afghanistan or India or US.

MG Jul 15, 2016 02:39pm

@Bush what? us is a free country you have no control over what the congressmen say or believe

aamer nawaz Jul 15, 2016 02:56pm

Who is the foregin minister of Pakistan ?? The Two in one package of PM Nawaz Sharif !! He should just resign on this total failure of able to speak ,propagate and present the narrative on behalf of thousands of innocent lives lost on the war of terror staged in our backyard and yet for Pakistanis to be blamed as accomplice and gamers !! What a shame what an insult and humiliation for the country !!!!

Taya Jul 15, 2016 03:19pm

No homework of their own, clearly the 'eye witnesses' are FUELED by all the concerns of India :) - and look they all talk about engaging India to support all that!

Biranchi N Acharya Jul 15, 2016 03:43pm

What Pakistan don't understand is it's gradually being isolated by World community due to some misguided fundamentalists.

PatelD Jul 15, 2016 03:57pm

@Aziz-people do not even know where Pakistan is.- Then why should they sens money to Pakistan? The committee is checking balance sheet of its cash flow.

Iftikhar Husain Jul 15, 2016 04:20pm

This is very unfortunate that a nation like USA who promote rule of law shoud treat a n old friend like this . Pakistan has been a friend and helper for the US policies i n Afghanistan through outand now some senators are accusing Pakistan this is not fair.

dawn Jul 15, 2016 05:22pm

Vicious criticism of Pakistan for not finishing what USA started.

Faisal Jul 15, 2016 05:30pm

Really enjoyed the session. They have gone made. :D They are either fool or making their people fool, every country pursuit its own interest so Pakistan does.

Sultan Qureshi Jul 15, 2016 06:15pm

One Day we have to live without foreign AID & this AID dose not benefit to the mass Pakistanis but the exclusive so called heading politician vehicle. Leaders please take a lesson we started without any support under QUAID's leadership PLEASE be LOYAL to Pakistan & Pakistanis & Do not accept any Foreign AID before this sovereign cut into the pieces.

raj chaudary Jul 15, 2016 06:17pm

@Zak I can not laughing at your statement,

Jay Jul 15, 2016 06:24pm

Pakistan is no longer US's ally. That explains the harsh words. This has been the case since Osama.

Tanvir Jul 15, 2016 06:56pm

As a citizen of US I wote to congressman Ted Poe that instead of thinking of killing Afghan Taliban give them right to participate in the political process of that country. An election without Afghan taliban in Afghanistan will be like an election in America without Republican party.Fighting with these folks will only create more bloodshed both in Pakistan and Afghanistan. US wants to eliminate them through Pakistan -- a job US could not do with all its mighty poweres. These congressmen are mislead by Indian propoganda machinery. Pakistan has no one to counter this false propoganda since they have no foreign minister,no lobyst and the poor Prime Mininster is sick.

S Naik M Jul 15, 2016 07:06pm

It is our core responsibility to save and secure the nation. So it is utmost necessary to strengthen further a democratic government here and spend our energy to explore the experts in education side. An educational nation can defense a country not a thalibainazaton style. So we must hike the education level from 44% to 100%. This is the solution to deluge and roar for poor nation though democratic process like Japan.

PakistanFirst Jul 15, 2016 07:12pm

almost 70 years of existence and we are still dependent on aid -- shameful.

Are we an economic powerhouse? Are we a peaceful and stable country? Sure, we have had our issues with India and Afghanistan and to a lesser extent with Iran and USA, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't have kept our house in order and to remain forever dependent on aid.

Mansoor Ali Jul 15, 2016 08:46pm

@Ali - Whom you consider rational are actually the opposite.

Rajiv Jul 15, 2016 10:27pm

@A shah - we will see

Irfan Alam Jul 15, 2016 11:48pm

Looks like it is time for Pakistan to kiss the halcyon days of US-Pak friendship, a final goodbye. Keeping in view the growing ingratitude of US, in a fight against terror, which seen thousands of Pakistanis perish. It is time for Pakistan to take a firm stand, as well as a leaf out of the Iranian book, in dealing with US.

Secularist Jul 15, 2016 11:51pm

For a moment let us grant that US is at fault in this blame game and is being influenced by Indian lobby. But is it just US that is prejudiced against Pakistan? Pakistani passport holders can enter fewest countries around the world without visa. Only Afghanistan does worse. Does that mean the Indian lobby is active in every other country to malign Pakistan? Truth hurts. It is high time as a nation Pakistan engages in deep reflection.

Imtiaz Faruqui Jul 16, 2016 12:04am

Do you know that there are crroupt congressmen that can be bought , there is Jewish lobby who has to be hired to put forward your case in the Congress. India has done so, India is also an active partner with Israel and is following the same tactics of suppression in Kashmir as in Palistine.

Javed Jul 16, 2016 12:07am

Was this unexpected? Knowing that our true story is out in the open.

venkob Jul 16, 2016 01:05am

@Marcus_715129 good idea. but don't you need funds from US to do these tasks? Or do you think China will help out

Zak Jul 16, 2016 02:04am

@Robi not aid but reimbursement for Fighting US war.

Rakesh Kumar Jul 16, 2016 02:52am

In the end truth prevails.

Iqbal Khan Jul 16, 2016 04:19am

First you guys created Talbans in Pakistan and then you left Pakistan alone to face the consequences and clean up your mess.Then Bush extremist attacked Iraq , created ISIS and now you are cursing Pakistan and muslims for all the terrorism which technically you gave birth.

smmu Jul 16, 2016 04:49am

@abdul wahid spot on

Talkn Parrot Jul 16, 2016 06:34am

Kudos to Dawn for publishing this news. Pakistan needs to know what others think of them, even though that may be painful and unexpected.

Kapil Jul 16, 2016 07:04am

It is a complete failure of diplomacy by Pakistan. This game is always played and u have to be part of it without in the end blaming others for the propaganda. You have to build relationships, lobby and make sure u do what it takes to represent your people correctly. It's immature to blame others and just for the appetite of the people. Need to look inwards to improve rather outside for blame and conspiracies

ali Jul 16, 2016 07:06am

@lafanga read the true book and the history before u say anythink

Riaz Jul 16, 2016 07:07am

Americans have the audacity to preach. Look at their own country violence against African Amercians, Asians, Latino's extermination of it ethnic Amercians. Add to this violence in grand scale south east Asia, Midddle east, Afghanistsn confirm that it is a terrorist state! So don't preach us or any body else for that matter!

Hamid Jul 16, 2016 11:11am

@optimistic "Indians and Israeli paid agents in US congress" - We should cut off our relations with US, call back our ambassador, call back all Pakistanis from US. Never send any student to US. Throw back all the weapons we received from US.

Rp Jul 16, 2016 11:29am

@Asif Ahmed - Very well said my friend!

Sri Jul 16, 2016 11:37am

@abdul wahid people like you depict the same side of Pakistan...sadly our friends Zak and lafanga were not fortunate like to be able to stay away from Pakistan like you and hence were subjected to systematic brainwash and conspiracy theories fed by their successive govts and military leaders, which of course was for their own survival not for the good of the country

Sri Jul 16, 2016 11:40am

@JD no point telling them to stop building their national ideology on hating their neighbour...that's what they've been taught since they were toddlers. At least let's hope the next generation will be different

Zeeshan Jul 16, 2016 12:05pm

Well good luck with that.

Irfan UK Jul 16, 2016 01:07pm

Why are our politicians telling us how hard Pakistan has been working to curb terrorism and we have had good results too via zarb e azm? We know Pakistan army is doing an excellent job with goo results but these stupid politicians need to tell the ignorant US Congressmen not us. As far as the US Aid is concerned I cannot wait until the day this Aid stops so that we can make independent decisions only for the interests of Pakistan.

ramdar Jul 16, 2016 01:10pm

@Marcus_715129 '' don't ever think India will be Pakistan friend...'' How is that Islamic Bangladesh & Afghanistan are close friends of India, Iran too. Friendship has to be earned.

Parminder Sadeora Jul 16, 2016 08:14pm

@Ali Your politicians have their limits. You must have strong leaders with a vision, before Pakistan takes a realistic approach to resolve the problems. Otherwise Pakistan will continue to be lost in a maze of its own making.

Muhammad Aadil Jul 16, 2016 08:56pm

self esteem is the need of the day. We are in the state of war. So, politicians as well as public should work well for our indiginous land. Moral crisis is the big problem of ours.

Ad4term Jul 16, 2016 10:28pm

If Pakistan is having so good name at world stage then why many Pakistani people claim that they are from india when they go abroad especially the USA.

It's not india who is damaging your reputation, you people and your policies.

Every country has their own thoughts process given by their past experience and their spy inputs, irrespective of other inputs from different countries { in your case india and Afghanistan }.

Check what's gone wrong, analyze and correct if something gone wrong really or criticize who said wrong about you with proofs.

Even I like Pakistan to prosper because it's good to have a prosper neighbor then a spoiled brat moreover you guys are our brothers once.

Cosmo Jul 17, 2016 12:14am

Wow, that is brutal. Loved it.

raj Jul 17, 2016 01:49am

In responsre to Asif Ahmed what you have written should be in golden words. YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL AT RIGHT PLACE. that is precisely what Pakistan needs to do, instead they focus on Kashmir, focus on nonsense issues. Their best friend for their development will be India and they need to develop good relationship with India.

Agha Khalil Jul 17, 2016 02:13am

Amazing combination! Within the same country; two people of the highest ranks; One is so involved in cleansing Terror by bombing them out (an excellent job) while the other; is merrily busy with giving the same lot; mega dollars to do a better job of killing.

Samee Jul 17, 2016 07:46pm

Is the world mad ?

Samee Jul 17, 2016 08:22pm

@Sandeep Really courageous one.

indus 30@gmail Jul 17, 2016 09:15pm

Promise everythin, deliver noyhing