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China snubs India over NSG

Updated Jun 21, 2016 12:17pm

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NEW DELHI: China has said that India’s admission to the elite Nuclear Sup­pliers Group (NSG) is not on the agenda of the grouping that started a plenary session in Seoul on Monday.

India’s NDTV news channel described China’s comments by foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chuny­ing in Beijing as a rebuff to India’s effort to join the NSG.

These followed rema­rks on Sunday by Indian Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj expressing optimism that Beijing was not obstructing India but only talking of “procedure”.

NDTV quoted senior government sources as remaining optimistic. “India sees this as a procedural block by China. We remain optimistic but never expected this to be easy. Outcomes are always uncertain,” one such source said.

China has been leading a group of nations that are holding out against India’s membership to the 48-nation club that controls access to nuclear technology.

The Chinese spokesperson said on Monday: “The inclusion of non-NPT members has never been a topic on the agenda of NSG meetings. In Seoul this year, there is no such topic.”

She said opinion within the member countries was divided on including not just India but all countries that are not signatories to the NPT or Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Indian media have ex­­pressed the hope that the issue would be discussed bet­­­ween Prime Minister Naren­­dra Modi and Presi­dent Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the Shanghai Cooperation Council’s meeting in Tashkent later this week.

Published in Dawn, June 21st, 2016

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Desi Dimag Jun 21, 2016 07:11am

It is Obama's goal to get India into NSG before his tenure is over. I hope India will in.

ANT Jun 21, 2016 07:36am

India has been accepted in the MTCR. China's request to join it have been rejected in the past. They have to realize that by blocking India at the NSG they will be blocked permanently by India in the MTCR. The ball is in Beijing's court.

Naveed Jun 21, 2016 07:52am

What about Pakistan?

Ali Raza-Brisbane Jun 21, 2016 07:55am

5 permanent members are non-signatory to the the treaty.

End discrimination. India & Pakistan should unite on this rather fight it out between themselves.

Ali Raza-Brisbane Jun 21, 2016 07:54am

5 permanent members are non-signatory to the the treaty.

End discrimination. India & Pakistan should unite on this rather fight it out between themselves.

Ahmed USA Jun 21, 2016 08:07am

China is a responsible superpower and a great friend of Pakistan... Both Pakistan and China are very dependable and trustworthy brotherly nations!!!

Rohit Jun 21, 2016 08:06am

China will support India. It cannot bear the cost of hostilities when its own economy has started slowing down. US is the sole superpower.

Luchha Jun 21, 2016 08:18am

Yeah...time to celebrate!

Aurora Jun 21, 2016 08:26am

How long China can ignore INDIA ?

Qaisar Jun 21, 2016 08:25am

India does not meet the criteria as after 2008 Exception, India has increased its nuclear arsenal which is against the conditions. NSG criteria should be fair and apply To all countries including Pakistan for the membership

logic1 Jun 21, 2016 08:28am

there will be celebration in Pakistan!!

Sunil Jun 21, 2016 08:27am

US on Monday said it continues to call member nations to back India’s membership, further indicating that New Delhi’s application is, contrary to the Chinese assertion, on the agenda.

Krana Jun 21, 2016 08:29am

Now it is open, Chinese will never support India, We will show China in future

Raaz Jun 21, 2016 08:36am

China and a few members are opposing India's admission in the group. In case of Pakistan except for China, every other member is opposing.

Basit Ali Jun 21, 2016 08:36am

So whats on the agenda?

Sunil Jun 21, 2016 08:42am

India must give nuclear technology to Vietnam, Philippines, and Taiwan, then China will back India's entry to NSG. The South China sea claim by China will also be resolved.

Roshan Jun 21, 2016 08:43am

China does not deserve to be in NSG.

INDIAN LOVE Jun 21, 2016 08:45am

Canada openly favoured India for NSG . Other country like US , Canada , UK etc will discuss India inclusion in NSG . India is isolating China by using high level diplomacy to all other expected opposing countries.

INDIAN LOVE Jun 21, 2016 08:48am

South Korea & other 46 NSG members will also decide , what to discuss in NSG plenary meeting. Waiting for Friday 24th June outcome.

AXH Jun 21, 2016 08:50am

@Rohit - The Superpower that owes China trillions of dollars in debt. How much does the US owe to India?

R. Rao Jun 21, 2016 08:56am

India needs Nuclear business to better its economy. It has every right to try all means to become a NSG member. How can this be called a snub? Incidentally it brings into open the mindset of nations who are against India's progress.

sony Jun 21, 2016 09:07am

this will take time.. India has NSG waiver.. So relax guys..

RATIONALIST THINKER Jun 21, 2016 09:21am

china wants some business deals to be settled with india and is negotiating with india wrt nuclear plant construction by china in india.once that is settled,china has confirmed india that it will vote for india by the end of this year when another meeting on NSG comes up arround december 2016.

Abdulla Hussain Jun 21, 2016 09:22am

A sensible move by China. Except for an american interest in getting India into the NSG club, no other reason is qualified enough to merit India's entry. In fact Pakistan with its highly secured nuclear programme is better merited to join NSG.

Gujranwala Jun 21, 2016 09:34am

China's concern is simple one that it fears India playing game in USA's hand whose sole aim to surrender China's economic/army development. It well knows India's hypocrisy as well.

Abhi Jun 21, 2016 09:35am

If china will not support India into the entry of NSG, then china have to pay a lot for it.. India which is a global market for china will be blocked completely and china will not want to bear a huge loss from India and America

Raj Jun 21, 2016 09:54am

Wait China must have accept India's entry into NSG Sooner or latter.

Zulfiqar Baig Jun 21, 2016 09:58am

China is a great country and always stands on principles. There seems to be a hidden agenda to include India in NSG; therefore China shouldn't allow this to happen.

Nitin Jun 21, 2016 10:04am

India is working very hard to convince the countries who have apprehension about India. But if China continues to be adamant it will have a great impact on Indo-China relationship and thus India will be more closer to US. China should have to take realistic approach.

Rohail Jun 21, 2016 10:06am

@Rohit LOL sole superpower? Ever tried finding US Debt? It's touching $20 trillion. As a homework, try to find China Debt.

kunal Jun 21, 2016 10:07am

Its matter of time India will get the member ship, one cannot ignore 1.25 billion people from its legitimate rights.

Rohail Jun 21, 2016 10:09am

@Sunil I wasn't aware US has become operator on its tax payer expense. I will contact my representative and senator sorting this out if that's true.

Rohit Singh Jun 21, 2016 10:19am

5 nuc reactors from us and 5 more more from Russia France Japan already signed. Onus on these countries as well as Multi billion dollars are at stake. That's the reason I think if not in this meet by next gathering we will get it.

SABER Jun 21, 2016 10:20am

Sensible approach by China. Backed by Russia.

Amit Jun 21, 2016 10:34am

@Ahmed USA probably you didn't read Mr Putons comment few days back "US is the sole great power. China is a super power but only for Pakistan andNorth Korea.

Mare Jun 21, 2016 10:35am

@ANT lol, no one can control China's missile development. China is powerful enough to exert so much more influence than 99% of the world's countries as the 2nd largest economy.

saleem Jun 21, 2016 10:39am

That is true friendship, salute to china always helping pakistan.

Amir Indian Jun 21, 2016 10:40am

@Ahmed USA I heard same statement past 65 years for US - Pakistan, and now may be for next 65 years for China - Pakistan

Khalsa Misls Jun 21, 2016 10:44am

India does not need to be a NSG member anyway. We've got more scientists and engineers today then the NSG members together have.

Dheeraj Jun 21, 2016 10:45am

This is last try by China.India will join NSG on 23rd June by their direct or indirect support.

kumar Jun 21, 2016 10:48am

@Rohit Correct one of the high level proliferators of nueclear technology.

GreenMangoMore Jun 21, 2016 10:52am

@Ahmed USA Chinese are business men Not brother.

Nehru used to say "Hindi-Chini Bhai-Bhai" and China responded to him by invading India in 1962.

So be careful before Pakistan calls them "brother"

Qamar Ahmed Jun 21, 2016 11:11am

Asia region was controlled by ghangeis Khan in the past. Now China does not need to be the member of MTCR. India is being used by US to control China only. This assumptive sole power is too under the crunch. China will rule the Asia again and this time the subcontinent too

Shobhit Jun 21, 2016 11:13am

The rest of the members disagree with the Chinese. Encourage everyone to follow news.

bharath Jun 21, 2016 11:18am

@Qamar Ahmed - Jenghis Khan is not going to come again.. Times have changed.. Come out of the past.. Do you get to hear any Greek ranting about Alexander anywhere ?

Asad Jun 21, 2016 11:19am

@Desi Dimag US doesn't want India in NSG, they only want India to feel like they want it.

Rohail Jun 21, 2016 11:23am

@Dheeraj Like to bet on it?

Mustafa R. Jun 21, 2016 11:24am

@Ahmed USA;

'5 permanent members are non-signatory to the the treaty.'

Not quite, they are signatories as Nuclear Weapon States.

Kashmiri Nationalist Jun 21, 2016 11:28am

@Rohit the Chinese economy will always be huge as its not only export driven but consumption driven so you couldn't be more wrong. Unlike India, China doesn't fudge and exaggerate its growth indicators

Kashmiri Nationalist Jun 21, 2016 11:31am

@Krana like you did in 1962 right

SHAH Jun 21, 2016 11:31am

@Rohit Yeah Right ? One swipe and its knocked out; Such is power of Veto; No NPT member .. no NSG;

SHAH Jun 21, 2016 11:32am

@Aurora Ignore who ??

SHAH Jun 21, 2016 11:33am

@Krana Show what and what and when in future ?? It is here and now; One Veto and its done and dusted, out;

SHAH Jun 21, 2016 11:35am

@Roshan OK.. the what you can do to get it done; Nothing !

joe Jun 21, 2016 11:39am

China must remember that UNSC was offered to India but Nehru suggested that it be given to China. That is how China is there.

Prashant Jun 21, 2016 11:45am

India is enjoying most of the NSG benefit due to exemption received in 2008. However, current strategy is just to isolating china with rest of the world. Either India join or not join, China will be in dilemma and get isolated with entire world.

SHAH Jun 21, 2016 11:48am

@Qamar Ahmed MTCR restricts countries the export of missile, technology, components of Category 1 product. Specially 300km range with 500kg payload; Its actually restricting your own product and technology; All MTCR signed up countries are under strict restrictions of the MTCR regime. So, Hindus-tan can really benefit by closing the door on themself.

S Ravindran Jun 21, 2016 11:49am

@ANT Nice comment.. We the people in India will support pakistan in all corners of our life because they are our brothers.. But won't accept china....They are the world's most recognised betrayers...

Ram Jun 21, 2016 12:00pm

@AXH Do you know what is China's GDP to Debt ratio? Do a google and you will know what USA is. It will take China may be at least 50 year to be at the same level as USA.

Bharat Jun 21, 2016 12:02pm

@AXH China is under debt of 3 times of its total GDP.

Rajan Jun 21, 2016 12:16pm

@SHAH China can not deserve to ignore India

sony Jun 21, 2016 12:20pm

Talk abt pakistan..Why china.. lets Compare india to pakistan.. This is not a china new website to talk abt china. now google future top economies in the world.. You will get your answers on where pakistan stands.. peace

timetostopthis Jun 21, 2016 12:25pm

So many issues facing Pakistan including terrorism, poverty, unemployment, sectarianism etc but people choose to celebrate because India doesn't get into NSG. Surely you can find more positive things to celebrate?

Atam Vetta Jun 21, 2016 12:24pm

I have previously said that India will be in the NSG in 2017. The reason is simple, there is going to be a tough bargaining between India and China but China cannot afford to 'lose' India to the USA & Japan.

Global Peace Jun 21, 2016 12:29pm

Best will be if India wont get it !! after One month all will do what they do best. & why india need it ? just to get cheap fuel rest all India already have.

Ironman Jun 21, 2016 12:40pm

@Ahmed USA Sometimes back Pakistan had a brotherly relation with Afghanistan and Iran. We make brothers as long as it is serving our purpose.

Tom Jun 21, 2016 12:39pm

Do celebrate as much as you can while you can......we all know this is only for so long....either this year or next...

Janu Jun 21, 2016 12:42pm

@Roshan thank you for the information , But china alrady is !

Naxalite Jun 21, 2016 12:43pm

India need to understand that they can't remain with US and China at the same time.

Kamal Pasha. Jun 21, 2016 12:45pm

India is helping US against China in every matter. How can India expect China's support?

Guest Jun 21, 2016 12:50pm

Pakistan has won again. Thank you China.

Asif Kashmiri Jun 21, 2016 12:51pm

I wish Pak and India could work together rather then against each other.

Khamani Jun 21, 2016 12:51pm

I think both India and Pakistan should lobby as a single unit considering the high energy demand on both countries. It is the need of the time for both of these countries to get entry into NSG.

Javed Jun 21, 2016 12:58pm

China is about to see a dip in it's influence in world affairs soon. Pakistan was given the membership of MSCI Index and China was denied a place because of non-transprancy in the securities low enforcement within China.

Harmony-1© Jun 21, 2016 01:00pm

@Bharath - but isn't it the same as Akhand Bharat? So yes, some similar mentality exists on both sides!

Khan Jun 21, 2016 01:01pm

Once again china proved that it is a true friend of Pakistan. Love live Pak China friendship :)

Ekansh Singh Jun 21, 2016 01:03pm

@Naveed no one cares about it .

deepak Jun 21, 2016 01:03pm

@Rohail you haven't read single word from economy book. Have you?

Ekansh Singh Jun 21, 2016 01:03pm

@Ahmed USA Seriously.

Ekansh Singh Jun 21, 2016 01:04pm

@Ahmed USA Seriously.

Khan Jun 21, 2016 01:05pm

@Roshan OK, we have forward your request to NSG :)

Ekansh Singh Jun 21, 2016 01:07pm

@AXH near about 95billion.

Ekansh Singh Jun 21, 2016 01:07pm

@Zulfiqar Baig what about u guys?

Desi Indian Jun 21, 2016 01:07pm

@Aurora How long China can ignore INDIA ?

India is trying to make sure China can't hide behind other countries and comes out as a sole opposition to India's entry in NSG. Then China will see the effects of its opposition to Indian entry in NSG on bilateral trade and in other spheres.

True Indian Jun 21, 2016 01:09pm

@GreenMangoMore , further during cold war, despite China , being a fellow Communist Nation , went against USSR and made axis with USA to further their causes. Now, the same China calls Russia as brothers just to become formidable rival of USA. it shows, no brotherhood is permanent for China but only interest.

Mohan Jun 21, 2016 01:14pm

@SHAH but now India can export missiles to other countries which are below 300 km range, business is the main reason behind joining

lafanga Jun 21, 2016 01:22pm

@Rohit You do realize that China is a 11 trillion economy compared to 1.8 trillion Indian economy. Any hostilities between China and India and it will be India who will suffer not China.

True Indian Jun 21, 2016 01:21pm

@Ram , Chinese debit ratio is just double to that of their growth ratio. Much of their reserve can be evaporated if China faces Economic hostility from USA and India where China has huge huge trade surplus.

Shankar Jun 21, 2016 01:23pm

@Ahmed USA Who has given Visa to you ?

hitman Jun 21, 2016 01:25pm

less of backing pak but to delay india's bid only how many are definitively supporting pak? is pak success about india's failure

satya7077 Jun 21, 2016 01:25pm

@Qamar Ahmed so you accept rule of China?

Rakesh Jun 21, 2016 01:29pm

India, US, UK, Canada and all other supporting countries should start new NSG group and make old NSG irrelevant.

Naveen Jun 21, 2016 01:32pm

I am sure all the Pakistanis will be very happy now

immo Jun 21, 2016 01:35pm

@Khalsa Misls and India alone has more poverty than rest of the world alone :)

Feroz Jun 21, 2016 01:48pm

Pakistani citizens have forgotten that their country is a confessed nuclear proliferator. Their case cannot be equated with any other case because no other country falls into that category.

AD Jun 21, 2016 01:53pm

@immo Look who is talking about poverty. Don't mock yourself.

lafanga Jun 21, 2016 02:00pm

@Desi Indian Please get the facts before threatening China economically. According to 2015 results, India does not even factor in top 10 trading partners with China. China does almost 1 trillion trade just between the US and Europe not to mention another 1 trillion between Japan, Russia, South Korea, Brazil, Australia, Malaysia and Taiwan.

Now we can all understand that you are a bit angry at being snubbed by China but I am afraid there is not much you can do about it. Sorry.

Ady Jun 21, 2016 02:03pm

Shushma trying well, but I don't think it's going to work to gain membership

RamRahim, Sindh Jun 21, 2016 02:04pm

@Gujranwala It is not new.All are trying to take India to influence others.BRICS felt powerful because of the ability of "I" to snub USA, Indo japan US malabar exercise to contain China & BASIC group to contain Russia.India know & play better in international politics.

NDA Jun 21, 2016 02:12pm

This is a dangerous game. US leaders wanting exceptions for their alliance members is ruining the international disarmament regimes. Exception in 2008 and exception now for India is in itself a violation of commitments. Inte'l security experts were correct in that 2008 exception will weaken the NPT and be a setback for disarmament. If this causes war, it will be due to US policies.

No wonder more and more countries are backing off from the US and terrorism and radicalism is increasing. It the over all impact of US policies and actions.

DifferentPerspective Jun 21, 2016 02:15pm

@Rohit - wake up. The world has changed a lot since you last looked around. China is today's reality and a superpower.

M. Asghar Jun 21, 2016 02:21pm

India and Pakistan together have a better chance to be included in the NSG, and here the divisive position of USA aimed against China, cannot help either of them.

DIL DIL PAKISTAN Jun 21, 2016 02:22pm

Good move by China. True friend of Pakistan

Mohammad S. Khalid Jun 21, 2016 02:29pm

@True Indian

same is true about India

JagaJatt Jun 21, 2016 02:33pm

@AXH I hate it when ignorant people in pakistan thinks, America owes anything to China, China bought Government Bonds from USA, if those bonds go down or US refuses to Pay China, wha tis CHina going to do nothing,.

A shah Jun 21, 2016 02:39pm

@Ahmed USA do you really think China is blocking India for Pakistan? China is shaken by India's growth and influence so is trying to contain it. These are the big boys playing.

Last Word Jun 21, 2016 02:42pm

China can ill afford to oppose India's entry for long and lose out billions in trade with US and India.

Krishnandu Jun 21, 2016 02:42pm

The Game is running my dear.. All the vital heads are behind this now.. We must not embarrassed China and have to make a formula so that Chinese obsession on Pakistani people may be intact if they can;t make the entry to NSG. This is the Chinese demand.. OK, we are working on that formula..

Krishnandu Jun 21, 2016 02:43pm

@Rakesh.. This is one of the option they are thinking...

kiran Jun 21, 2016 02:46pm

@lafanga bro india is a 2.2 trillion economy as of 2016. 1.8 was 3 years ago. check with imf.

Azmeen Jun 21, 2016 02:46pm

@Roshan Really!

Azmeen Jun 21, 2016 02:49pm

Thanks China.

Bhargav Jun 21, 2016 02:52pm

@Ali Raza-Brisbane You have a Point, but that is too simplistic is'nt it :)

AZEEZ Jun 21, 2016 02:55pm

@Ahmed USA : china is not a superpower or developed country. china is a third world country. UNTED STATES OF AMERICA is the only super power in this world

AK Jun 21, 2016 02:55pm

@Feroz

An NSG came into being because of India's violation of its nuclear agreement. Pakistan's was an act of an individual. India's violation was at a state level. Two different level of offence.

Usman Jun 21, 2016 03:02pm

Showing India its True Value.. besides being just a "big market" for the world powers..

kublai Jun 21, 2016 03:03pm

when the face a battery of brahmos missiles from Vietnam Indonesia and philipines they may change their tune.

kublai Jun 21, 2016 03:05pm

@AXH india owns 40 billion dollars of US bonds..wake up

deepak Jun 21, 2016 03:09pm

@lafanga Do you realise that China economy is now on "Save me" mode? they have devalued their currency two times? India GDP rate is higher than china at the moment where foreign investors are keen on investing in india. India can produce anything they want , due to their arrogant approach and claims on disputed sea area their relation is terrible with USA and other countries , only supporting country to them is now PAK. do you really think if India want to maintain good relation with other countries china can do anything ? USA has already signed NSG like agreement with India if India don't get entry they can sign similar agreement with other nations like AUS, SIWZ, FRA, etc. However going forward india will not support anything to China or PAK for any trade at international level.
Overall it seems PAK is missing a big international platform by going with China

Apoo Jun 21, 2016 03:10pm

China has billions in trade surplus with India and it can't ignore India for long

kiran Jun 21, 2016 03:10pm

@AK bro india did make nukes for its self defence not to proliferate to iran north korea and libya. i challenge u to name a country india has proliferated nuke materials to.

AMBIKAPATHI M Jun 21, 2016 03:13pm

@Abdulla Hussain I am wonder that all Pakistanis easily forget about Abdul Qadeer Khan.

Jay Jun 21, 2016 03:14pm

The vote hasn't even happened yet. How is anything a snub? Just wait till the vote to see who gets snubbed.

Wariss Jun 21, 2016 03:26pm

@SABER BAcked by Russia?? just see yesterdays news paper

Wariss Jun 21, 2016 03:41pm

India will make it and no one gonna stop it.

lafanga Jun 21, 2016 03:43pm

@deepak "Do you realise that China economy is now on "Save me" mode?"

Really? Is this why Tim Cook went to China "before" India and invested 1 billion dollars while promising zero investment in India other than dumping used iPhones. Most likely the device you are using to post your comment was made in China. China is everywhere. In your home and at your work and in your super markets. It's Everywhere.

Raj Jun 21, 2016 03:45pm

@Qamar Ahmed Genghis khan is not a chinese, learn the fact before comment.

a Jun 21, 2016 03:48pm

MTCR, NSG and then permanent veto holding member of the UNSC. Nobody can stop India now !

Zak Jun 21, 2016 03:55pm

@Rohit which movie was that....l

Zak Jun 21, 2016 03:56pm

@logic1 not really, we are least bothered about india. We want to be the best.

lafanga Jun 21, 2016 03:57pm

@a "MTCR, NSG and then permanent veto holding member of the UNSC. Nobody can stop India now !"

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride !!

Zak Jun 21, 2016 03:57pm

China has shown its credentials as a true super power. It is being fair in applying rules , not breaking principles to favour any one country for personal agenda, like US. That is why US has lost respect. Trying to bringing in the criminal who was the cause of setting up the NSG.

Harmony-1© Jun 21, 2016 04:02pm

Those who doubted Latha Jishnu's 'beautiful' words that we are "chasing a mirage" must have got their egos deflated.

Another Indian Sri1 Jun 21, 2016 04:08pm

@Ali Raza-Brisbane "5 permanent members are non-signatory to the the treaty. End discrimination. India & Pakistan should unite on this rather fight it out between themselves"

Good thoughts Ali. But with due respect, the Indian leadership increasingly feels that India should be treated at par with the five permanent members than with any others. Which looks more and more justified year after year.

Waseem Sarwar Jun 21, 2016 04:13pm

China is trying to play US, not India. India isn't anything close to China like Pakistan

Anum Jun 21, 2016 04:16pm

India just thinks everyone else around them is stupid. They sent their delegate to woo Chinese. Can't Chinese work out what india is upto? Its cosying up to USA to act as their agent in The region to tackle Chinese Rise. And yet they go to China seeking their help in making India even more dangerous with nuclear stuff.

Voice of Reason Jun 21, 2016 04:15pm

It is truly a sorry state of affairs that people from both sides take pleasure in any problems the other side is facing. Much as people don't want to admit it - in reality India and Pakistan are brothers - historically, culturally and even genetically.

It is undignified and embarrassing so see such comments - surely a humble attitude and hard work and wish well to the other side is how you should be what all sides should want.

Bahjat Jun 21, 2016 04:18pm

@ANT does it make any difference?

Baht Jun 21, 2016 04:21pm

@R. Rao then why only india. Every country needs to better it's economy, why not give access to all countries then? What a flimsy argument.

KKumar Jun 21, 2016 04:24pm

@AXH Yes US owes trillions to China. US is biggest importer of Chinese goods. What happens if US stops importing from China and refused to honor the debt? What happens if other countries do the same. What happens if trade is on barter system and no trade surpluses?

KKumar Jun 21, 2016 04:27pm

@Qaisar Well, all nuclear weapon countries have increased their nuclear arsenal. US has decreased some along with Russia.

Muhammad Jun 21, 2016 04:35pm

@Amir Indian Same goes with India for 65 years we have been hearing India and USSR and now we will hear for the next 65 years India and USA whats the difference ?

xyz-Indian Jun 21, 2016 04:36pm

Not to be disappointed, technologies will flow if we have money. lets treat this in India as a challenge and improve further & see to it that china follows us.

M. Siddique Jun 21, 2016 04:38pm

@Desi Dimag, Sorry Charlie, India will get into NSG anytime soon. This is one more point I disagree with Obama.

Iftikhar Husain Jun 21, 2016 04:38pm

It is a long way to go.

M. Siddique Jun 21, 2016 04:41pm

@Ali Raza-Brisbane, Please read NTP charter, five veto wielding powers are signatories as the only recognized atomic powers.

Kash Jun 21, 2016 04:41pm

Gosh stop fighting over this already. China only cares about itself. It's investment in Pakistan is only to benefit itself. This is just a bargaining tool from China. It will soon let India join.

M. Siddique Jun 21, 2016 04:43pm

@Rohit, In China, any slowing down of economy is a global phenomenon and is not at all impacted by what happens to Indian economy or to India whatsoever. India has to behave in a mature way to make its way in.

HZR Jun 21, 2016 04:46pm

Well.let us see for how long China make this blocking effort...

HZR Jun 21, 2016 04:48pm

@Aurora There will be time and occasions when China will need India's support and at that time India can think of.....

Moiz Habib Jun 21, 2016 04:58pm

India will not be allowed a free ride.

Alam Jun 21, 2016 05:03pm

@Aurora "How long China can ignore India" As long as India ignore its neighbours

Amit Jun 21, 2016 05:06pm

The diplomatic war between China and the US over India's entry into the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) just got nasty. On the face of repeated - sometimes impassioned - requests by the US to NSG members to allow India into the elite club, China on Monday said India's admission to the elite nuclear club is not even on the group's agenda during its current plenary session in Seoul. The US hit back later on Monday again - for what seemed like the nth time - calling on NSG members to support India's application at the Seoul session. On cue, China came back Tuesday to say that it was the US that made the rule against the NSG entry of countries who haven't signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT) - India hasn't - so the focus should really be on whether entry criteria to the elite nuclear club should be changed.

Australian Agnostic Jun 21, 2016 05:10pm

This is a genuine question. What benefit would India receive by joining NSG? All my readings on the matter suggest the due to the exemption granted a few years back, India enjoys all the benefits of membership already.

Muhammad Jun 21, 2016 05:18pm

@lafanga India has never been a united country except few exceptions in history therefore rest assured they will be finding it difficult to hold together very soon let alone dreaming of becoming a super power

SB Jun 21, 2016 05:24pm

@Ahmed USA , China ageed for special waiver for India in 2008 as a smart country. Had it been a Superpower it would have blcked that too

AXH Jun 21, 2016 05:57pm

@KKumar - "What if" does not work in trade. Ever thought about how it will impact US's credit ratings and what that will do to the international markets?

lafanga Jun 21, 2016 06:06pm

@Wariss "India will make it and no one gonna stop it."

Keep repeating that in your dreams until reality wakes you up.

Indian Jun 21, 2016 06:29pm

@Australian Agnostic

This is a genuine question. What benefit would India receive by joining NSG? All my readings on the matter suggest the due to the exemption granted a few years back, India enjoys all the benefits of membership already.

Right now under the exemption granted, India can enjoy all the benefits of membership with US ONLY. Once India become NSG member, India can enjoy the same membership benefits with ALL other NSG member countries.

Rehan Jun 21, 2016 07:02pm

It's hilarious to read Indian comments on how China needs India. Indians are seriously delusional.

Ali Jun 21, 2016 07:44pm

Appreciate China's principles based stance. Hope other countries in NSG will also follow the lead.

DV Jun 21, 2016 07:54pm

Read it too http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/In-U-turn-China-says-NSG-open-to-non-NPT-nations/articleshow/52852251.cms

Ashok k Bhatia Jun 21, 2016 08:13pm

@Qaisar 41 countries don't support china's hegemony in NSG . If India fails in its attempt to get an entry in NSG, then both China and Pakistan should face India's non co-operation on economic front. first attempt will be the blocked of all trade with China and prevent passing of CPAC road from Kashmir.

Paul Jun 21, 2016 08:32pm

How sad...a country reduced to blocking other's progress..rather than focusing on its own....

S Shah Jun 21, 2016 08:34pm

I agree with Chinese principal stand to block India entry into NSG with out India signing NPT. Why India is dying to join NSG, because after joining NSG she wants to get the muscle and create hegemony in subcontinent.

s.khan Jun 21, 2016 08:54pm

Why can't India simply sign NPT and remove the objection. Making exception in 2008 was enough and trying the same again is probably not acceptable. Ifr other countries have signed NPT to become members of NSG what is India's hang up. world is tired of American exceptionalism and now India is asking to be exceptional.

Hamza Jun 21, 2016 09:09pm

@lafanga - does this apply to India - Pakistan too?

azaad Jun 21, 2016 09:10pm

Why are you guys so smug? India has NSG waiver. China is trying to extract what it can to acquiesce, which is smart realpolitik. Pakistan should back India with an understanding that India will join China and back its entry. The problem here is that no one else will.

Time to do business for mutual benefit, not keep up this Zero Sum game

Rohit Singh Jun 22, 2016 12:00am

@lafanga you forgot China does only the ifone assembly but the ifone sw is being developed in India, which task is more important I need not emphasise and before questioning India credentials first create an identity of yourself than posing China's achievement as yours.

Saroj Jun 22, 2016 12:24am

@Kashmiri Nationalist I don't know in which world u live, china never follows the correct Indicators, I strongly recommend you to read something worth than only reading....

A shah Jun 22, 2016 01:54am

Instead of taking pleasure from Indians failures, why doesn't Pakistan develop itself?

Ilias from NL Jun 22, 2016 02:26am

Look like MODI'S magic not going to work that time on this topic...

Ahmed Jun 22, 2016 03:48am

God Bless China. Love to China.

Australian Agnostic Jun 22, 2016 05:23am

@Indian Thanks for the answer. Your answer clarifies a few things for me.

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:06am

@Qamar Ahmed ; China has failed in building confidence in its methods of trade and geo-political diplomacy. The world sees China as too aggressive and unrelenting and a nation and its people bent on circumventing laws. Read the news.

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:10am

@INDIAN LOVE ; And Pakistan and "iron Bother" China are isolating India--against the current.

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:13am

@Zulfiqar Baig : Principles? Ask Indonesia, Phillipines, Vietnam, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei, et al!

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:22am

@Rohail ; Don't forget your hijab or niqab!

Is-Smile Jun 22, 2016 06:22am

Urdu-Chini Bhai Bhai.

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:25am

@saleem :Keep your eyes peeled and pray for the Uighurs!

PROUD INDIAN Jun 22, 2016 06:27am

@RamRahim, Sindh Very well said. We make relations with Saudi as well as with Iran. And Relations with Israel without upsetting Iran and other Muslim contries. Art of diplomacy at its best.

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:30am

@Rohail : Have you checked USA's resources and intellectual properties and reserves?

Paxton Roy Jun 22, 2016 06:33am

@Rohit Singh : After building nuclear power gens in India, the builders can't say: Oops! No fuel for you!

Narindra Modi Jun 22, 2016 06:55am

@Raaz , very much surprised you know everything who is opposing and who is supporting Pakistan,please let us know your source or its top secret?

abc Jun 22, 2016 07:41am

@SABER Russia? ????

Indian Jun 22, 2016 08:24am

@SABER : who told Russia is not supporting India's membership to join NSG??

Sid Jun 22, 2016 10:02am

And how many countries are there in China's group ?

anon Jun 22, 2016 11:42am

@lafanga That's the point! Most of the private manufacturing in China is owned by the West. What if they re-locate to other countries, which they will have to because the labor rates are going up.

Raaz Jun 22, 2016 12:29pm

@Narindra Modi Please follow the news, my friend.

shujaat aziz Jun 22, 2016 12:51pm

why our foreign policy goes around what india is doing?

Hamid shafiq Jun 22, 2016 01:06pm

Elite club do not want any more member its just a friendly words from USA and other elite members to make more business.

Trump Jun 22, 2016 02:48pm

@Kashmiri Nationalist : Really? Even Chinese don't believe in the numbers published by their people's government. And one more thing. It just a matter of time before China implodes due to credit bubble in their economy. And when that happens no one is going to rush to help them.

shafi Jun 22, 2016 06:24pm

@Abhi trade between india and china is mutual interest not only chinese interest it is

shafi Jun 22, 2016 06:27pm

pakistan and india should help each other to enter the group.

Eramanagalam Somapalan Jun 22, 2016 06:40pm

@Ali Raza-Brisbane Yes you are very correct. It is high time that these two countries reorient their attitude and cooperate and prosper together, if there is any difference sort it out between them

KKumar Jun 22, 2016 07:46pm

@Indian Exemption from NSG allows India to buy reactors and uranium. France, US, Russia are providing reactors and Canada, Australia and Kazakhstan are providing Uranium. Even Japan wants to cooperate in nuclear technology development. NSG membership will allow India to sell civilian nuclear technology to other NSG members. Pakistan is already getting civilian and non-civilian nuclear technology from China in violation of NSG and NPT.

Ali (CA) Jun 23, 2016 04:35pm

@deepak - interesting, Indian thinks all other nations are isolated using pseudo intellectual arguments.