Altaf's remarks on army to be legally pursued: ISPR
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KARACHI: Director-General Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) Major-General Asim Bajwa on Friday condemned the statements made by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain regarding the Pakistan Army and said the matter would be legally pursued.
In a series of tweets, the DG termed the MQM chief's remarks regarding the army and its leadership as "uncalled for and disgusting", adding that such references to the army and its leadership in response to the arrest of criminals who may have links with a political party would not be tolerated.
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Maj-Gen Bajwa said legal action would be taken against such remarks and the use of media to incite the people of Pakistan to rise against the state.
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He also tweeted that the army and law enforcement agencies would continue to carry out operations as assigned to them.
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The MQM's Rabita Committee said in a statement that party chief Altaf Hussain had not criticised the military leadership.
The statement added that the MQM supremo had rather praised the steps taken by the army and asked Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif to dispense justice.
Earlier, MQM chief Altaf Hussain in a late night address criticised the military and said the party had always been discriminated against.
"Those who surrendered are called patriots while the founders of Pakistan are dubbed as traitors,” he said.
Read: Arrested suspects affiliated with MQM, trained by RAW: SSP
Altaf claimed that those in the corridors of power had never accepted them as "sons of the soil". He said that "Pakistan would bear irreparable loss, if atrocities against us [the MQM] are not stopped".
The MQM supremo said that other ethnic groups had also established nationalist organisations in the country but only his party was subjected to operations.
He said that earlier in 1992, members of the MQM were declared as Indian agents and also raised the point as to why the MQM is always linked with India and not with any other country.
Also read: MQM denounces SSP's allegations as baseless
Maintaining a relationship with India is our moral and hereditary responsibility, he further said.
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May 01, 2015 08:10am
I love MQM and Altaf Hussain. Mohajir Nation Zindabad
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May 01, 2015 08:13am
Game in on!!
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May 01, 2015 08:21am
Irresponsible and hateful remarks by Altaf Hussain, trying to incite hatred angainst our Armed Forces and promote ethnic division. Everyone should note there are millions of Mohajirin living in Punjab and other provinces of Pakistan as well who consider themselves ONLY PAKISTANI and dont consider it their "hereditary resposibilty to maintain contact with India". His hateful speeches against Armed Forces should be taken to court and telephone hatred should be banned.
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May 01, 2015 08:26am
Army is the only hope to get rid of terrorists & corrupt politicians.Don't forget to take care of Lal Masjid leadership & their outfit in the center of the Capital city.
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May 01, 2015 08:27am
I agree with Altaf Hussain's statement.
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May 01, 2015 08:28am
I agree what ever Altaf Husain said, it will be hard for ISPR to challenge the remarks Mr. Hussain has made.
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May 01, 2015 08:29am
Hopefully, the army may able to get any good from current judicial system. Otherwise, these legal actions would be answered hopefully around after 20 years or so.
Good Luck Army!
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May 01, 2015 08:30am
British govt should banned Altaf from making telephonic speeches. There should be an international code of conduct where one should not be allowed to make provocative public speeches on international wireline.
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May 01, 2015 08:31am
Bitter Truth, Though!.
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May 01, 2015 08:35am
Stop persecution of Mohajirs.
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May 01, 2015 08:49am
Altaf is a honourable man and a patriot, he should not be treated unfairly or with suspicion , all mujahirs should be treated as full citizens of pakistan, discrimination of people be it mujahirs, minorities, hindus, christians, sikhs, gypsies, baluchis,kashmiris will lead to fragmentation of society and will lead to break up of the nation.
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May 01, 2015 08:50am
The narrative that certain group of people are 'founders of Pakistan'should change now. Pakistan came into being as collective will of majority of Muslims. I would say there is more contribution of 'others' in making Pakistan possible than the Pakistanis themselves.
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May 01, 2015 08:51am
Even though I am not fond of MQM leadership but it is their right to say what they want. Dear Bajwa, this is call freedom of speech and we all should honor it. However, bring on the marshal law then it is a different story.
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May 01, 2015 08:59am
What a mess
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May 01, 2015 09:00am
no one is prosecuting muhajirs,
I am a muhajir and I am not prosecuted in any way.
MQM has destroyed a whole generation and now that they see that they are losing influence they are playing the Muhajir card again. Stupid public
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May 01, 2015 09:01am
Asking public to use weapons and take privately Army training, Altaf Hussain is inciting violence in Pakistan. I wonder why UK Government is not taking any action against him even though Pakistani government is requesting them to control Altaf Hussain since more than two decades.
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May 01, 2015 09:03am
@Muradabadi Stop calling yourself Mohajirs. You were born and raised in this country and that is your indentity. Be a Pakistani.
Same goes for Sindhis, Punjabis, Pathans etc... those are your forefather's cultures and you should nurture and cherish them. But when you make them your only identity then you are no more than a burden to your country.
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May 01, 2015 09:05am
We will protest will full force any action against our dear and beloved leader Altaf Hussain, long live Altaf , may his enemies disappear forever.
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May 01, 2015 09:06am
Mohajir's are integral part of Pakistan society and no discrimination should be made against them, doing so will have serious consequences for Pakistan as a nation.
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May 01, 2015 09:08am
Stop calling yourself Mohajirs please. You are Pakistanis, you were born here and grew up here.
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May 01, 2015 09:09am
Altaf Hussain Zindabad! MQM Zindabad!
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May 01, 2015 09:14am
Pakistan was created 68 years ago ... how many of MQM members are mohajirs from India ? Most of them were born and raised in Pakistan. So they are Pakistanis and better start living like Pakistanis... accept for their leader... who is a British national, living as a servant to the British monarch, so he is neither Pakistani nor Mohajir. MQM is persecuted , not because they are Mohajirs but because their party members are involved in organized crime.
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May 01, 2015 09:19am
Excellent
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May 01, 2015 09:19am
Truth is a bitter pill to swallow for our brave generals. reminding them the historic facts is treason as they don't like the truth.
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May 01, 2015 09:20am
Only MQM can bring lasting peace in south Asia ,stability and prosperity common folk of south asia, all pakistanis should support MQM to lead the nation as PML,PPP,PTI and others will keep demonising India and the insistence of boys and Pakistan will be spending all money on army and weapons and common people of Pakistan will suffer for ever only military and politicians will be happy with current dispensation .
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May 01, 2015 09:22am
I back army's stance. If every second criminal which is apprehended in Karachi belongs to MQM then it doesn't mean MQM is being targeted instead it means there are many criminal elements in MQM.
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May 01, 2015 09:24am
Altaf Hussain did not say anything to the Army. The entire nation is proud of our Army. Army is our pride.
What do you have to say about PML-Ns Khuwaja Asif's speech in the National assembly where he openly questioned the integrity of our Pak Army? No action was taken against him why?
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May 01, 2015 09:42am
Its not the matter of agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. I am urdu speaking and Pakistani (not muhajir). I didn't feel anything like what Altaf Hussain is saying. Pakistanis are Pakistanis no matter where are they from. If MQM has connections with India then its a right time to declare them otherwise they will always play the victim game and will be attacked again. No compromise on Pakistani soil. Also it seems like Altaf is happy that we lost the war in 71 and that is why he is trying make fun of Armed forces. Only Indians can Only be happy on that.
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May 01, 2015 09:47am
It is time to wake up and see the real picture. Everyone is facing problems, everyone is facing some sort of discrimination, everyone is missing on basic rights. We should not listen to politicians who give it a racial color just because they know it is the quickest why to get votes.
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May 01, 2015 09:48am
No doubt Altaf is telling the truth, but for "national interest" sometimes "false faith" is better. It is better for Pakistan to believe that PML-N is not a Punjabi party, PPP is not Sindhi and PTI is not Pakhtun. Blaming MQM being pro-Mohajir is perhaps true but blaming them pro-India is not.
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May 01, 2015 09:48am
The nation must realise the ground realities and I bet the urdu speaking are patriotic as other nationalities of this country.
We must understand this and stop accusing each other.Our real enemy is corruption, bad governance, nepotism and killing of merit.
As in any civilised country please allow Local governments and community police with elected mayor with ownership and power to manage big cities and we will see peace and development everywhere. But if we continue the current system of centralisation and corruption the country will suffer.
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May 01, 2015 09:58am
From some comnents it seems the mohajir card is out again. Big time
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May 01, 2015 10:09am
@Sana So you have now created a new nation rather than being part of Pakistani nation....
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May 01, 2015 10:16am
@Sana One of my Urdu speakign friend summed it up rightly. He said, " I was a mohajir when I came here from India but Altaf made my son a mohajir too even though eh was born here."
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May 01, 2015 10:17am
Be Pakistani and love Pakistan.
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May 01, 2015 10:20am
Karachi is ready for one more occupation. Let's see wha you got. Bring it on
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May 01, 2015 10:27am
@Sana Dear, you love MQM. Don't you love Pakistan?
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May 01, 2015 10:28am
@I . Khan Pakistan Army is the Jewel of Pakistan. I shall fight for Army in every channel I can. You love MQM, I love Pakistan and my Army.
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May 01, 2015 10:28am
@Sana I am urdu speaking and Pakistani. I am not an immigrant in my own country.
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May 01, 2015 10:40am
Molding the mind set of mohajirs (in karachi) in the inferiority complex by such statements which are addressed to the masses for individual interests can create ethnic violence and should be taken care of!
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May 01, 2015 10:44am
@Sana by the being Mohajir does not make a nation.
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May 01, 2015 10:45am
@Akil Akhtar It is true that people who made Pakistan and migrated to Pakistan was never whole heartedly accepted as Hindus who went to India but Pakistan has given a lot to everyone be thankful for that
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May 01, 2015 10:47am
The Police needs to be depoliticised. It needs to be under the Army. Only then there there would be discipline and peace. The politicians will never let this happen as the status quo suits them. If the Police is under the Army, as the Rangers are, Pakistan would be a different country to live in. The Police must have all facilities as the Army has in terms of pay, allowances, etc
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May 01, 2015 10:48am
@Muradabadi Those who were born in Pakistan after it's creation are not Mohajirs if their parents were and should stop calling themselves Mohajirs, as the word Mohajir means one who migrated from one place or country to other and I know that many of them have never been out of Karachi city. Secondly it's not for them to call themselves Mohajir as it's not a title, but instead, it is for others to call someone Mohajir irrespective of what language one speaks if it applies to him/her. For that matter those who migrated from what became Pakistan in 1947 to India are also Mohajirs but they call themselves Indians and the ones who are in Pakistan should feel proud by calling themselves Pakistanis instead of calling themselves Mohajirs.
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May 01, 2015 10:51am
now the rabbita committee is denying it. so what is new, leader says it and party denies it. they will always live in denial.
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May 01, 2015 10:57am
@Sana Your comment is quite saddening. There is only one nation and that is the Pakistani nation which spreads from Karachi to Khyber and from Sialkot to Quetta. Each and every person in Pakistan can only be part of the Pakistani nation. I speak URDU and my grandparents also migrated at the time of independence and I am a Pakistani ONLY. MQM isn't the founder of Pakistan. Quaid-e-Azam was the founder of Pakistan and he was born in KARACHI. Karachi, just like every other inch of Pakistan, is Quaid-e-Azam's and his ideology and not of any other political figure. Winning elections in one constituency doesn't make one party the owner of Karachi. Everybody should live peacefully and focus on being Pakistanis only. ONLY Pakistani Nation Zindabad!!
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May 01, 2015 11:03am
@Muradabadi you guys are persecuting your own selfs by playing the Mohajars card.
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May 01, 2015 11:03am
Our Army is thoroughly patriotic, let us not make their job more difficult than it already is. Pakistan has many real enemies, let us not create pseudo enemies to satisfy our own hubris. Mohajirs love Pakistan Army. Pak Fauj Zindabad.
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May 01, 2015 11:04am
@Yawar I am not belong to any political party and i also want peace in my country as well as in Karachi through any action against any body. But one thing should keep in mind that if injustice will existing in future with people of Karachi then again party like MQM will stands again. I think this shall be understand by Govt and army officials.
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May 01, 2015 11:05am
To provoke the public in a speech to take commando training and be ready to fight the state amounts to treason in any country. Army must rise to protect the nation, its citizens,and itself. Patriotism must prevail without question !
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May 01, 2015 11:12am
Long live MQM.
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May 01, 2015 11:15am
Mqm workers taught as first you are Mohajir the Pakistani. ..
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May 01, 2015 11:15am
Stop killing Mahjirs and give us equal rights .... Our ancestors made this home land.....
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May 01, 2015 11:20am
How can the youth born and raised in Pakistan whose parents did hijjrat from India make them muhjirs? Is it also true for the second generation of individuals (families) whose parents migrated to Europe, North America, or Australia? This sort of exploitation, for your political goals, will do no good to the young generation but cause complexes and alienation.
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May 01, 2015 11:25am
@Sayyar Khan Every card is ok but not Muhajir card.
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May 01, 2015 11:26am
@Omar And became billionairs and owners of Malls and children studying abroad.
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May 01, 2015 11:28am
@Akil Akhtar Come on stop making stories.
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May 01, 2015 11:30am
Impart proper education(not madrashas) that will help Pakistan to be establishing a united nation instead of being a Muhajir, Punjabi, Sindhi, Baluch, Pastun/Pathan or other religious minorities based divisive ones.
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May 01, 2015 11:30am
@Sana mohajir or muttahida? make your mind
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May 01, 2015 11:32am
@Muradabadi ... Stop killing and extortion...
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May 01, 2015 11:33am
I request whole pakistani nation. Please come out of this racism. We all are Pakistanis. We should be proud of our identity. I m teaching in Malaysia, and I have friends from Sindh, Baluchistan, KP, Panjab but we never say that he is panjabi, sindhi, Baluchi or Pathan. We are pakistanis. For God's sake come out of this racism. Make Pakistab your priority and work hard for the betterment of the country. Our founder had founded this country on the name of Islam. Muslim from India migrated to Pakistan and Sikhs migrated from Pakistan. If Sikhs are calling themselves Indians then why Mohajir are still considering themselves Mohajirs? And how long they will call themselves as Mohajirs. We all are Pakistanis and we should think beyond this racism. Altaf Bhai is borm in Pakistan and he is holding pakistani nationality. He should call himself Pakistani rather than Mohajir.
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May 01, 2015 11:38am
Its not the leaders its we as people we need to change or humiliation is the only thing we will be rewarded with.
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May 01, 2015 11:39am
@Akil Akhtar what Pakistan is right now? Pakistan was for every one, Equal rights without colors without race? Why Mahajirs are not given equal rights?
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May 01, 2015 11:42am
@Adnan Arent muslims everywhere taught they are muslims first and patriots ?
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May 01, 2015 11:55am
@Raghu yes sir that is true.
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May 01, 2015 11:55am
@aslam shaikh
why Punjabis have the biggest share in everything, if everybody has to shate the hardship equally.
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May 01, 2015 11:56am
@Raghu i wonder why it is that it bothers you.
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May 01, 2015 12:07pm
There should be laws in Pakistan that prohibit any leader to take part in politics unless present in country.
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May 01, 2015 12:09pm
We call ourselves mohajir because of the unfair quota system enforced on us. The Govt. should either get rid of the Sindh Urban/ Sindh Rural quota rule or give us a separate province, end of story.
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May 01, 2015 12:10pm
What percentage of Urdu speaking population serve in the armed forces and have sacrificed their life for Pakistan. One has to earn the right to demand only after proving themselves to be a patriot. Pakistan Armed Forces Zindabad.
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May 01, 2015 12:15pm
So sad, while the world progresses, we fight amongst ourselves. In the present case, both sides are to be blamed. Our leadership, both military and civilian, have no foresight and instead of guiding masses in the right direction fight with each other. We have failed to resolve our chronic issues and making them worse. Other nations would have solved this karachi issue amicably long time ago.
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May 01, 2015 12:26pm
If we are all just equal Pakistanis then why quota system is enforced in Pak?
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May 01, 2015 12:33pm
Pakistan Army has protected Pakistan and its nation from the jaws of the foes of Islam. MQM has to learn the lesson of maligning Armed Forces, we cannot tolerate even a single word targeting the great heroes of the nation, we love and shall standby our beloved Armed Forces engaged in wiping out the curse of terrorism from Pakistan in general and target killing from Karachi in particular.
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May 01, 2015 12:44pm
stop using word, these words are dividing nation. All are Pakistani, no mother tongue identity. SAY I AM PAKISTANI
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May 01, 2015 12:45pm
The people who created the nation are being discriminated against and are being targeted. Mojahir nation is the answer if it doesn't stop soon
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May 01, 2015 12:47pm
Leaders are responsible for the future of next generations including kids of leaders. Stop kidding with the future of next generations.
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May 01, 2015 12:48pm
Army should clean up the mess and arrest the criminal behined target killing no matter which party they belongs to.
Relationship with india not more important then the Pak army
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May 01, 2015 12:54pm
@Happy reason is when you finally go to ISSB for an interview they ask you Are you hindustani.... Where your parents originally belong from? Where you father or mother or grand parents were born.... This is racism which is carry on in Pakistan from Independence..... I face same issue in 1998 and 1999 and people still face such issue just look around
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May 01, 2015 12:56pm
Muhajirs should not be targeted and singled out.
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May 01, 2015 01:03pm
First stop discriminating, persecuting them for being mohajirs, then ask them to stop calling themselves mohajir
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May 01, 2015 01:06pm
All mohajirs (still) please move on (further). Only Pakistanies wanted...
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May 01, 2015 01:07pm
@M.M.Sherazi what you are saying is good to listen to but reality is far from it. When push came to shove the true colors of the true heroes were shown 44yrs ago. Nobody can deny it.
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May 01, 2015 01:12pm
@Omar In that case why quota system still in force
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May 01, 2015 01:15pm
@Omar
Punjabis and Sindhis are also Pakistanis but they call themselves Punjabis and Sindhis.l
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May 01, 2015 01:18pm
@Happy sacrificing alone should not be the criteria. Winning is. Which we haven't seen at all. So how does it matter how many urdu speaking population is involved.
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May 01, 2015 01:19pm
@Abbas Ali why don't you go to Punjab and see the problems there? Load shedding of electricity of gas for homes, issues of clean water, jobs. We should get out of our bubbles and see problems that everyone has. We should stop repeating the same sentences that our politicians tell us. We are not parrots, we should think and analyze before saying and really think.
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May 01, 2015 01:20pm
@Sana > Obviously you live abroad and are not in Pakistan.
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May 01, 2015 01:21pm
@Jafri What MQM has done for removing quota system while in power for 15 years? It's an evergreen plant that bears political fruits whenever needed.
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May 01, 2015 01:24pm
@Sana There is no such thing as a Mohajir nation. Immigrant is not a nationality.
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May 01, 2015 01:28pm
@Sana sorry to disappoint you but its not a nation!
Millions migrated from India to Punjab as well, but we have never seen them calling themselves mohajir. They assimilated as Pakistanis.
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May 01, 2015 01:30pm
@Sheraz You are lieing or you don't know. My father migrated from India in 1947. Got commission in the army and retired as a General.
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May 01, 2015 01:36pm
@Hyder mohajars have been in power for almost last 15 years in pakistan in various forms. why did not they fix it rather taking adavantage of the situation?
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May 01, 2015 01:37pm
MQM will gain unmatched popularity among masses because of this episode. They are now sure to gain landslide victory in Local Bodies Election.
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May 01, 2015 02:14pm
Mohajir first !!!
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May 01, 2015 02:37pm
@Hyder your ancestors may have made this homeland but you guys are destroying it by discriminating yourselves
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May 01, 2015 02:49pm
Please be patriotic Pakistani, irrespective of cast or creed to maintain your identity in this global world. Think globally and act locally. Respect humanity to grow big.
Firqa bandi hai kahin aur kahien zaatein hain
Kya zamany main pinapnay ki yehi baatein hain
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May 01, 2015 02:50pm
@Akil Akhtar . One of my Urdu speaking friend why not one of my Pakistani friend instead, here lies the fine line
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May 01, 2015 02:52pm
@ZAK All our ancestors created Pakistan, get your facts right. The provinces voted to become Pakistan.
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May 01, 2015 02:53pm
Karachi should be handled delicately. It certainly requires pure efforts from all stake holders especially people's party being the ruler party there..
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May 01, 2015 02:53pm
@Sana Did you hear the whole speech?
Do you agree with the sexual references used in his speech.
I believe we are at times being judged by Almighty, in this manner. He wants to see what side we take and whom we side with
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May 01, 2015 02:53pm
@Raphee My parents migrated from India and many of my family members have served/are serving Army/Airforce/Navy and civil services. To succeed you need to make struggle.
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May 01, 2015 02:56pm
AH is not even a Pakistani citizen. He has British nationality and does not even intend to come to Pakistan. So how come he is commenting on Pak army and Pak media giving him air time to incite people to violence? Aren't those people who were arrested in Karachi criminals? Isn't army doing operations against TTP and BLA? If Pak army is against Indian Mohajirs and not only MQM criminals than why army isn't doing any operation against them in Lahore, Hyderabad and many other cities where they are residing? Its not army vs mohajirs but army vs criminals.
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May 01, 2015 02:56pm
@Akil Akhtar there is a very good lesson in that saying, if one is ready to listen. " I was a mohajir when I came here from India but Altaf made my son a mohajir too even though eh was born here."
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May 01, 2015 03:02pm
AH has 'labeled' and 'stigmatised' the decedents of those who risked their life and limbs that migrated over to this of the border.
In fact there are NO 'mohajors' in Pakistan but sons/daughters of the soil!!
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May 01, 2015 03:04pm
@Hyder - could you enlighten us by explaining what rights are denied to the 'mohajirs' that the other Pakistanis have?
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May 01, 2015 03:13pm
@Iqbal - how about returning to your ancestral land if you still feel a refugee in Pakistan after 68 years !!
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May 01, 2015 03:21pm
Those who are telling Mohajirs to call themselves only Pakistanis should know that Mohajirs are the last people to started using ethnic card in Pakistan. Other ethnicities have been using it since Pakistan's inception. Here in USA Pakistani Punjabis feel more comfortable with Indian Punjabis then Mohajirs or Pashtuns from Pakistan. Pakistani Pashtuns feel more comfortable with Afghan Pashtuns then with Pakistani Punjabis or Mohajirs.
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May 01, 2015 03:27pm
Its time to act.
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May 01, 2015 03:30pm
@Shakeel bro for those migrated from indian punjab they could not find any difference in west pakistan coz they had cattle, village, grass, lassi, dhoti and language same they had in india. this is why they could not call themselves Mohajir and easily merged with locals. But for urban Mohajirs this was not the case in Sindh.
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May 01, 2015 03:30pm
Legal pursuance requires some moral ground viz. peoples mandate, devolution of power, equal representation, etc
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May 01, 2015 04:22pm
Blunders after blunder by Altaf Hussain makes his survival more difficult. His remarks are signs that cases in Britain are haunting Altaf Hussain and see his final departure from the arena. His fanatic followers are running and hiding and his command over Karachi is almost nearing to end. Obviously this makes him crazy and as of result such disgusting and hate mongering speeches are continuously bombard every now then.
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May 01, 2015 04:27pm
I can see a dangerous game being played after signing of deals with China and somebody thinking of dismembering the country.
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May 01, 2015 04:33pm
ISPR DG Sahib to avoid all this the answer lies the Police to be under the wings of the Army just as the Rangers are. This is the core issue that needs to be addressed to bring peace and discipline in our society. COAS can you intervene as you know best what the problem is.
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May 01, 2015 04:52pm
Well, the questions raised by MQM are valid.
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May 01, 2015 05:00pm
That first comment just ruined this
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May 01, 2015 05:01pm
why its all of sudden things heated up against MQM? Is there any specific reason big guys?
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May 01, 2015 05:03pm
@Muhammad Jamal
100% agree. Local government system with powerful mayor with complete authority and responsibility for policing and peace will prosper Pakistan and will shun the people who are asking the division of provinces.
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May 01, 2015 05:06pm
instead of criticizing army who is doing great job, Mr Hussain shud get rid of criminal elements from his party
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May 01, 2015 05:09pm
"why the MQM is always linked with India and not with any other country" because people in power corridors always remind you that you are not sons of soils you are immigrants as simple as that
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May 01, 2015 05:26pm
I am an Urdu speaking and a supporter of MQM in its initial days. Over the years it has turned into Mutahida Qaumi Mafia. Has brought shame to all Urdu speaking with the way Bhatta was obtained. Qurbani skins were obtained at gun point. We are all witnesses to this. It's time for MQM to mend its ways.
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May 01, 2015 05:26pm
I think this Muhajir Drama needs to be end . Either contribute towards the well fare of Pakistan or better leave this place .
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May 01, 2015 05:58pm
@Omar
Please grow-up, just see name as Mohajir as name.
Also, demand to change the names of provinces based on ethnicity t non-ethnic names.
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May 01, 2015 06:00pm
Power hungers need to understand that if they dont change their mindset this turmoil would continue and become worst in future. Hold local bodies elections and if MQM is the major winner let them appoint mayor with full power and authorities, establish local policing system and appoint local police commissioner, provide jobs to local people and release due funds to the local bodies. This will surely remove MQM grievances and slogan of new province. But the power hungry politicians from interior do not want that and they await for worst to come.
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May 01, 2015 06:06pm
Britain's Prime Minister once said "I love my country more than my party"... The day Pakistani politicians/people say this, half of its problems with disappear. Everyone in Pakistan today should be grateful to the army who are defending them against internal and external threats and is the only reason why Pakistan is still on the map. Instead of criticising them, the public and all political parties should support them 100%.
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May 01, 2015 06:10pm
I am Punjabi but my family lives in karachi and I can Assure everyone no other party has a chance to win in Karachi ever again its just MQM or nothing.
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May 01, 2015 06:11pm
If army was so vehemently against mohajirs, as some people seem to claim here, then we would not have seen Musharraf and Aslam Baig and a large number of army officers hailing from urdu speaking families - Musharraf and Aslam baig put together over represent urdu speaking population in the Army's top command (in proportion to the urdu speaking population in the country). Mohajirs are still much better off than people of other provinces - they are well represented in beurocracy, govt positions and among the cadres of political parties - A good number of them own prime property in Karachi and Hyderabad - go check the state of the people of rural Sindh, Punjab, KP and Baluchistan.
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May 01, 2015 06:17pm
@Irfan
why don't you say this Punjabi sindhi, balochi, pukhtun, darama should end.
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May 01, 2015 06:33pm
Mqm has always supported army ,,n all this is the result of that irresponsible press conference by the police officer.
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May 01, 2015 06:57pm
As a Bangladeshi , I think , I should not be involved in your internal matters , as a Muslim , still I have some interest in Pakistan's well being and putting my opinion. Having read all 120 comments on this issue,I found so many differences in opinion on Pakistan,s very existence/core-issues/unity.If ,as a nation , you don't address the very genuine demand of the peoples living in different provinces,someday it will be disastrous and will have no remedial options in hand.I wish all the best of you all Pakistani.
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May 01, 2015 07:04pm
@Omar .......Brother Omar you are 100% RIGHT.
All Pakistani citizen must consider that they are all
Pakistani. In USA once we become US citizen than
we call our self an American, not Pakistani-American
or Indian-American.
Sincerely, Ashraf Mirza (USA) ashwmirza@yahoo.com
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May 01, 2015 07:21pm
Altaf Hussain The great leader
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May 01, 2015 07:24pm
Irresponsible statement of Altaf Hussain is an efforts to malign and ridiculed armed forces. According to provision of our constitution judiciary and armed forces can not be ridiculed in the public eye. MQM is not the representative of Mohajir as it claimed, there are millions of Mohajir in Punjab and other provinces but they call themselves Pakistani not Mohajir. I am also failed to understand why our media is so irresponsible and what PEMRA is doing to have a check on media for airing such malicious language against Pakistan Army.
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May 01, 2015 07:34pm
@Chaloo My parents moved from India and though we were not Punjabi we mixed with them and were never discriminated in Lahore.
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May 01, 2015 07:45pm
@Intesar how many punjabis Baluchis and Pathans agree with you?
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May 01, 2015 07:48pm
First arrest Abdul Aziz burqa posh.....to restore your reputation.
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May 01, 2015 07:49pm
@Ahsan Ali Syed. My friend this is not a Martial State. stop proposing shortcut, undemocratic means of achieving results. As a civil institution, police should remain accountable to public and its civilian masters. To make the affairs better, reforms, autonomy and strong public oversight could be proposed as a way forward. its high time to abandon this military approach to everything undesirable in this country. Lastly, This country was not made for the Army; it was made for the people comprising it, so let them work and be patient.
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May 01, 2015 07:53pm
@jasmeet kaur you must be obviously saying this because of india's influence inside MQM. you can get lost now.
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May 01, 2015 08:05pm
@Zak I like how you didn't mention Pakhtoon in your different types of Pakistanis
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May 01, 2015 08:07pm
It is unfortunate that we are heading towards head on collision between Army and one political party.
Political problems cannot be solved by force. We must learn lesson from the past. The situation can easily escalate out of control.
If the govt thinks that banning MQM would solve the problem then think twice. If MQM and its leaders go underground then outside forces will play havoc with Karachi and Pakistan.
I hope Army has not decided to go full force against MQM as that will be detrimental for Pakistan. People of Karachi are not buying this narrative that MQM is terrorist as we saw in the elections.
The narrative of criminal element by Army , govt and media should be applied to all including Nawaz Sharif party.
There will be no reaction if all are treated equally.
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May 01, 2015 08:07pm
He has the guts to be a Mohajir but not a Pakistani... AND still people worship him! O please! Been time you stop calling yourself Mohajir ! Face it and accept it like others do. We are Pakistanis. For once stop using the Mohajir card to create panic every other day. Peopleof Sindh need to stop fooling themselves.
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May 01, 2015 08:11pm
Face it and be a Pakistani Altaf bhai. Stop fooling everyone with the Mohajir card. Stop labeling the people of Pakistan as someone they aren't! It's like spitting in the same plate you eat. You drink, dress,play, breathe as Pakistanis but sit under the label of Mohajir. Stop it people and join hands as Pakistanis. Do not back off by listening to leaders who tend you rule your soul and brains!
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May 01, 2015 08:13pm
@Mirza yes but what about what Altaf Hussain said about his party people taking up arms and learning to combat to fight against who? the Pak Army? we already have taliban doing that. does MQM want to be considered along those lines too?
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May 01, 2015 08:15pm
@jasmeet kaur that is like saying only Shiv Sena can maintain peace in India
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May 01, 2015 08:21pm
@tshaikh :I think finally some one hit on the nail. Born in Karachi
I never considered myself being a mohajir. Actually as son of the soil.
To all I say integrate amongst the people of all over Pakistan and live like a single nation!
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May 01, 2015 08:21pm
@Sana - 60 years on and still muhajirs. Be Pakistanis now.
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May 01, 2015 08:21pm
Asim Bajwa action in Karachi against Majir's is too much politically motivated.
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May 01, 2015 08:44pm
Dont Turn Khi into another Bangladesh.... Accept the mendate where its due and treat all criminal equally without any ethnic or party limit.
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May 01, 2015 08:48pm
Pakistan govt should ban british man telephonic speeches
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May 01, 2015 08:48pm
Action shld be taken against Altaf for using indecent and abusive language against the armed forces of Pakistan....
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May 01, 2015 09:10pm
@Sana speaks lots for you
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May 01, 2015 09:21pm
@VRCORRUPT, why does raghu's question bother you?
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May 01, 2015 09:23pm
Its sad that in this day and age our politicians still use ethnic and provincial cards to score brownie points and win votes.
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May 01, 2015 09:23pm
@Khangul
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May 01, 2015 09:35pm
Any person spreading hatred against state in general and army in particular should be prosecuted through legal channels, I want Army and Federal Govt to stand side by side on this matter and prosecute the person who is spreading hatred among Pakistanis(incl Mohajirs).
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May 01, 2015 10:04pm
@sid
Tell this to Javed Hashmi. The man who loved his country more then the major political parties he represented and left in the past, and even did not bow to the pressure of a dictator and charged with treason.
Now, left alone in the cold.
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May 01, 2015 10:05pm
@Sana Define Pakistani= Punjabi, Sindhi, Baluchi and Platoon, others ethnic groups are like child no one want to claim.. if you know what I mean. So they are supposed to do…?
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May 01, 2015 10:07pm
I guess new Passport should be issued to these people . Revoked their Pakistani citizenship. Issued them Muhajir Cards . Make them live in camps .
This is called educated illiterate people .
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May 01, 2015 10:09pm
@dawn
Let's start with changing the name of the provinces so they stop thinking they don't have a sooba and feel discontent. Oh hell, just give them a sooba.
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May 01, 2015 10:15pm
@Sana Go marry that guy and leave Pakistan and by the way check you back ground you might not actually be mohajir
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May 01, 2015 10:26pm
Every one knows what the MQM has been doing in Karachi. Law enforcement agencies have been reluctant to take stern action because MQM has the political backing of Urdu Speaking Karachietes who then create troubles in the city. There is a need to take bold action and eliminate those involved in anti sate activities.
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May 01, 2015 11:02pm
Its unaceeptable to intice hatred against PAKISTAN ARMY.
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May 01, 2015 11:16pm
I could not understand why ISPR giving so importance to Altaf Hussain statement. This is not first time in Pakistan. So many others said so many times. Giving the importance MQM will be more strong and it will be easy to play Mohajir card . If army is going after MQM statement, please leave them, there are so many targets are there which army has to take over. Every single day so many innocent people are killed in Pakistan. So, do not waste the time and try to eliminate the roots.
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May 01, 2015 11:43pm
For the first time in my life I find myself in agreement with Shahbaz Sharif. Altaf Hussain should apologize not only to the Army and general Raheel Sharif but to the entire nation.
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May 01, 2015 11:49pm
We are only PAKISTANIS. Pakistan zindabad
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May 02, 2015 12:01am
Pakistan army is not above law or criticism , its one of the most organized and corrupt institute
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May 02, 2015 12:13am
The ISPR reply to MQM Leader has been truly appreciated, no political party should ever finger point to our Great military establishment, how dare that one questioning the PAk army role keep us safe from bad eye. I have nothing against any of Pak political party, do your Politics but in the limits , its your constitutional right.
Salute to Maj.Gen ISPR Bajwa's patriotic answer.
Long live Pakistan and and the People.
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May 02, 2015 12:27am
@Akil Akhtar
Altaf Hussain did not make them Muhajir, inhabitants of the land called them Muhajirs and many other derogatory names. And I guess they like the name Muhajirs we gave it to them.
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May 02, 2015 12:36am
@Iqbal Be a human first and then anything else.
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May 02, 2015 12:41am
@ZAK because you can't think out of the Mohajir box.
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May 02, 2015 12:42am
@Sana and what about Pakistan?
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May 02, 2015 12:42am
@Nana Very True.
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May 02, 2015 12:44am
@I . Khan So you don't have your own brain!
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May 02, 2015 12:47am
@Shakil one correction please "They assimilated as Pakistanis" or truth is now "They assimilated as Punjabis" In Pakistan no one is Pakistani so why Mahajirs are forced to call themselves Pakistani..
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May 02, 2015 12:47am
@Viking You are so right.
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May 02, 2015 12:53am
@Muradabadi Please don't spread prejudice and be a true Pakistani.
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May 02, 2015 01:01am
I dont get one thing. Why people born and raised in pakistan are called Muhajirs? I migrated to US so I am an immigrant, but my kids (born and raised in US) are Americans (Not Immigrants)
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May 02, 2015 01:09am
"would be legally pursued" - That would be the day when army or any other government institution takes any legal action against Altaf Hussain.
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May 02, 2015 01:10am
@Sal you have to know what freedom of speech actually means, creating and encouraging hatred among people should never be permissible instead promote love by freedom of speach.
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May 02, 2015 01:11am
Per capita income in Karachi is around $5000 as compared to rest of the country where it is below $1000.
On average more Karachiites are employed in government corporations,private companies and multinationals. Think about banking , insurance or oil and gas sectors more Karachiites are employed as compared to any other group.
Karachiites have best educational and health facilities than any other region-all built either by tax payers money or someone who lived in Karachi before partition.
Karachi gets uninterrupted power supply even though weather there is not as extreme as in Sibi, Jacobabad or Multan which are suffering 18 hours load shedding with 48 degree centigrade!
Almost every house is supplied with gas whereas the areas where it is supplied from are without it.
Still Karachhites are complaining of discrimination !
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May 02, 2015 01:16am
@concerned dear brother I am so proud of you being so honest and a true Pakistani, I SALUTE YOU.
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May 02, 2015 01:24am
@Zulfiqar Because what is in Pakistan's interest is not there interest, do not expect from other countries that they will look for your interest they all look for their interests only, never live in self deception.
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May 02, 2015 01:33am
@M.M.Sherazi I agree.
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May 02, 2015 01:36am
@Asheikh that's why we r representing muttahidda(representing the lower class from all the provinces ).
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May 02, 2015 01:45am
@outspoken No, after the creation of Pakistan they are Pakistanis first and the Punjabis and Sindhis and that is how every true Pakistani should think.
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May 02, 2015 01:48am
@Asim Iqbal Very true.
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May 02, 2015 01:50am
@Sheraz This should change now.
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May 02, 2015 01:53am
@Khan Only Pakistani card is OK.
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May 02, 2015 02:01am
@taimoor khan No Pakistani in Pakistan should be discriminated including those who still call themselves Mohajir.
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May 02, 2015 02:34am
Pakistan was formed in 1947. The generation who migrated to Pakistan are gone. Their children are old and sitting at home. So, who is mujahirs among working class. No one. Yes, there is a discrimination but there is no mujahirs so stop this Mujahirs business and it is getting old. Address the discrimination for women, child labour and make Karachi a provience so all Karachi issues can be resolved.
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May 02, 2015 05:15am
@Happy What percentage of Sindhi speaking population has served in the Armed Forces and
how many of them has sacrificed their lives for
Pakistan ?
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May 02, 2015 07:20am
@Sana then go to London
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May 02, 2015 07:24am
@Sana yes, long live Altaf Bhai.Mohajir ek alag kaum hai.Inshallah very soon they'll form their own Govt.
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May 02, 2015 07:26am
@Zak that is inevitable bro.
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May 02, 2015 07:32am
@Akil Akhtar You are so right, this is what the Pakistani born generation should ponder about, they are Pakistanis by birth and no sensible person can deny it.
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May 02, 2015 07:38am
@Hyder What rights have been denied to them?
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May 02, 2015 07:56am
@Raphee Excellent, I think after reading this comment no Mohajir should complain of being discriminated.
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May 02, 2015 08:09am
@Owais Khan It's not true, Pakistanis feel comfortable with all Pakistanis.
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May 02, 2015 08:15am
@sid Absolutely
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May 02, 2015 08:16am
@Waqas yes, he is the best for you.
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May 02, 2015 10:51am
Take stern action against Altaf Hussain, You people have been sleeping for the last several years. This is only lip- service, he has made so many speeches from London but Pakistan Govt. has done nothing to stop his speeches. Shame on you.
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May 02, 2015 02:00pm
@T. A. Khan It is freedom of speech
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May 02, 2015 05:14pm
its all well and good for him to sit in the UK in a house paid by the hard working Tax Payers of the UK claiming free NHS service safe knowing that nothing will happen to him.and why is he interfering in matters that do not concern him he is not a citizen of Pakistan he gave that away when he decided to be a coward and hide away in the UK, and why is this man allowed to make such statements sitting in the UK, if he has concerns why not get his big behind back to Pakistan and face the music and the Army.
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May 02, 2015 05:17pm
@Mustafa well said.
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May 02, 2015 09:30pm
Bitter fact!
What about General Aruora , when brave army surrounded before him ?
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May 02, 2015 09:44pm
Hmmm, was there something factually incorrect in what Altaf Hussein said? The army's depraved excesses in Bdesh, its abject capitulation to Sam Manekshaw is captured in print and in pictures. Wasn't is traitorous to deliberately disallow BDesh and Rehman his constitutionally mandated prime-ministership, thereby breaking the nation into two? Aren't they doing the same to Karachi and MQM now as also in Balochistan? Let us all see if the ISPR really have the guts to take this to court, Altaf will again have the last laugh as usual !!
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