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Sept. 19, 1947: Muslim refugees sit on the roof of an overcrowded coach railway train near New Delhi in trying to flee India. Millions of Muslims migrated from India to Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP/file
Sept. 19, 1947: Muslim refugees sit on the roof of an overcrowded coach railway train near New Delhi in trying to flee India. Millions of Muslims migrated from India to Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP/file

LAHORE: Sitting in his office while students stroll by under leafy shade trees and rickshaws tut-tut on a nearby road, Khawaja Muhammad Zakariya thinks back to a tumultuous time decades ago when his country was violently split in two: the partition of India.

His father hurried home one day, telling his young son they had to gather up their money and jewelry and leave their Muslim neighborhood immediately for an uncle's house across town.

“The day we moved ... that area was attacked, and many were killed and injured but we had left about two hours before,” Zakariya said, recalling the violence-plagued months leading up to partition.

The family later left Amritsar for good, taking only the valuables they could carry, joining other families on packed trains to Lahore.

The retired professor of Urdu literature in his mid-70s spoke from his office at Punjab University in Lahore, just 50 kilometers (30 miles) from the Indian city of Amritsar.

He was relaying his life history to a volunteer from The 1947 Partition Archive.

Sept. 19, 1947: Muslim refugees sit on the roof of an overcrowded coach railway train near New Delhi in trying to flee India. Millions of Muslims migrated from India to Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP/file
Sept. 19, 1947: Muslim refugees sit on the roof of an overcrowded coach railway train near New Delhi in trying to flee India. Millions of Muslims migrated from India to Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP/file

The archive is a massive effort to collect stories from people who remember the 1947 split of the subcontinent, often referred to the largest mass migration in history.

The generation that still remembers the birth of modern India and Pakistan are now elderly men and women, and it's a race against time to record as many stories as possible. “That segment of the population is disappearing really, really fast,” said Guneeta Singh Bhalla, the Berkeley, Calif.-based executive director and driving force of the archive, speaking by telephone. “Within the next five years the vast majority of what's remaining is going to be gone. “

Partition marked a massive and bloody upheaval.

Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight.

At the same time, millions of Muslims abandoned their homes to cross the border into Pakistan.

A man looks at pictures regarding the history of Pakistan's independence, displayed at a museum in Lahore, Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP
A man looks at pictures regarding the history of Pakistan's independence, displayed at a museum in Lahore, Pakistan. Partition marked a massive upheaval across the subcontinent. Hindus living for generations in what was to become Pakistan had to flee their homes overnight. —AP

The hastily-arranged partition of the subcontinent into India and Pakistan was brokered by the departing British colonialists.

Months of violence preceded the partition announcement, often whipped up by politicians or various religious and political groups jockeying for power.

In the chaotic days and months following the August independence of India and Pakistan, violence multiplied as religious sentiment intensified and there was little in the way of police or military to maintain order.

There are no exact numbers of people killed and displaced, but estimates range from a few hundred thousand to two million killed and more than 10 million displaced.

Bhalla's interest in oral histories was sparked by a visit to a memorial in Hiroshima featuring similar work.

She began recording stories of survivors she knew in the US until there were so many people wanting to tell their story she recruited more volunteers.

Eventually she created a non-profit organization in 2011 devoted to tracking down survivors and recording their stories.

She quit her job in December 2012 and now devotes all her time to the archive, based out of offices at U.C. Berkeley.

So far, their contributors have collected more than 2,000 oral histories from partition survivors.

Prakhar Joshi, left, asks a question to 86-year old Desh Raj Kalra during an interview at his residence in New Delhi, India. Joshi has spent the last 15 months crisscrossing the country interviewing about 150 people to record oral histories including the partition of India. Often, this means listening to extremely personal stories of murder, rape and shattered families. —AP
Prakhar Joshi, left, asks a question to 86-year old Desh Raj Kalra during an interview at his residence in New Delhi, India. Joshi has spent the last 15 months crisscrossing the country interviewing about 150 people to record oral histories including the partition of India. Often, this means listening to extremely personal stories of murder, rape and shattered families. —AP

They want to have 10,000 by 2017, she said. In a sign of how far people traveled after partition, Bhalla has received stories from nine countries and in 10 different languages.

Her own family migrated from Lahore to India during partition but emotional ties to the family's old hometown are strong:

“I still know their addresses."

In India, Prakhar Joshi has spent the last 15 months crisscrossing the country interviewing about 150 people.

86-year old Desh Raj Kalra talks with Prakhar Joshi, right, at the end of an interview at his residence in New Delhi, India. Joshi has spent the last 15 months crisscrossing the country interviewing about 150 people to record oral histories including the partition of India. Often, this means listening to extremely personal stories of murder, rape and shattered families. —AP
86-year old Desh Raj Kalra talks with Prakhar Joshi, right, at the end of an interview at his residence in New Delhi, India. Joshi has spent the last 15 months crisscrossing the country interviewing about 150 people to record oral histories including the partition of India. Often, this means listening to extremely personal stories of murder, rape and shattered families. —AP

Often, this means listening to extremely personal stories of murder, rape and shattered families.

While every person he interviewed had their own version of displacement, some stories left Joshi distraught for weeks.

He recalled a 76-year old man in New Delhi who was an eight-year old boy in a refugee camp on the Indian side of the border in the days when violence was at its height. “One of the camp leaders handed out sticks and other weapons to the men. And small spears to the young boys in the camp,” Joshi said.

The man told Joshi they were ordered to kill anyone younger than them.

After almost 68 years, Joshi said, the man still has trouble sleeping thinking about the children he killed. “When I started collecting stories, my first few stories were very traumatic. They shook me to the core. I knew riots had happened, but I never knew the scale of the savagery,” Joshi said.

Not every story is so horrific although partition seems to have left a lasting memory for most.

Desh Raj Kalra was 18 when his family left behind their sprawling house and grain trading store in Pakistan. He remembers a childhood where Hindus and Muslims lived together amicably.

But one day the village chief, who was Muslim, told them he'd heard reports of violence and that they should leave. “We thought we would be back in 10 to 15 days so we left everything behind. My grandfather told us: governments may change but people will never change. But it's been 68 years now. None of us ever went back. And now I am too old to make the journey,” he said.

The interviewers don't just ask about partition itself.

Armed with an extensive questionnaire, volunteer Umair Mushtaq talked with Zakariya, the retired professor, for three hours.

They discussed Zakariya's memories of flying kites as a young child, watching wrestling matches, his family's struggles as refugees in Pakistan, and Zakariya's university studies and marriage.

Eventually, Bhalla said, the archive would like to have a physical space where people can hear the histories and learn more about partition.

Zakariya said he's glad there's a project like this to make the stories available for future generations. “Even my children, they put many questions to me about partition,” he said.

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Kamal Pasha. Mar 13, 2015 11:55am

This was a very unfortunate decision taken by the people of United India. This all happened because of few politicians. We threw Brit out and now we are coming to their country because ours do not rule honestly.

Ahmad Mar 13, 2015 11:55am

Bitter memories of a painful time.

Amazing work being done by recording the stories of survivors.

Indian bhai Mar 13, 2015 12:02pm

This was saddest era of India , Pakistan and nows Bangladesh. Everyone contributed to independence but finally we all got divided in three regions. I still think that at last Pakistanis and Bangladeshis are brothers of us...

concerned_Cit Mar 13, 2015 12:15pm

Thank you for the greatest sacrifice ever to let me breathe freely in my beloved Pakistan.

SANJEEV KUMAR YADAV Mar 13, 2015 12:16pm

What a tragedy....why so crazy about religion?

Chacko Cherian Calicut Mar 13, 2015 12:19pm

Dawn, Please dont become so desperate.Nearly seventy years have passed.Still didnt get over partition??What ever has happened it was good in the hind sight.Please stop this obsession..

Saleem Mar 13, 2015 12:33pm

So very sad....but what we learned from it....

Cyrus Mar 13, 2015 12:44pm

The best format for a book by our film maker would be an anthology from the best of these interviews: each life one and 1/2 to two and 1/2 pages in length. It could be a worldwide best seller. Hard Times by Studs Terkel about living through the Great Depression in America, and the book Everything We Had about the Vietnam War made good money in soft cover (paperback) editions. Everything we had became a film documentary. I even read a similar anthology of great interest to me, in Spanish, of personal stories about immigration across the US border and some of those living and fighting during the Mexican Revolution of 1911. Publishers are very interested in manuscripts for paperbacks running to 175-180 pages in length. They make money for the publishing companies, hence the authors. I live, eat and breath autobiographies, and such a book would be of great interest. It deserves a place in history, like Mikhail Sholokov's Tales of the Don, short stories about the Russian Revolution of 1917. Personal accounts in an anthology would have been impossible under Soviet communism. Particularly through the Stalinist years.

James Mar 13, 2015 12:48pm

@concerned_Cit

Same on the other side of the fence as well dude......

Be + Mar 13, 2015 12:59pm

In India Partition is seen as unfortunate ,Divide and Rule policy of British people. They sow the seed of this partition in 1900 around.Now it has become full grown tree.

not surprised Mar 13, 2015 01:11pm

reminds me of Khushwant Singh book "Train to Pakistan"

Sunil Mar 13, 2015 01:16pm

But today no Muslim Indian wants to migrate to Pakistan, where as Hindus of Pakistan want to. This is the tragedy.

Abhishek Tomar Mar 13, 2015 01:34pm

Thanks Muslim League for carving out Pakistan!!

SRIDHAR RAGHUNATHA RAO Mar 13, 2015 01:39pm

It was again the radicals who was at work in 1947. In fact, Jinnah was highly secular, more secular than the most of that time. It was he who was advocating Hindu Muslim unity. It is sad that his ideals was forgotten after independence.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 01:44pm

This project looks doomed from the start. The British empire ended with independence for 2 nations. Those still living the past are going no where. Even to this day, kashmiris, Sikh Khalistan, Assam, Manipur, Awadh- all still hark for independence from the Indian Union. Because that what it is , a union of nations under one parliament. Those who want to reject Union are brutalized like kashmir.

Krishna Mar 13, 2015 02:29pm

@Chacko Cherian Calicut

Contrary to what you say, partition is still on in our minds and the Indian subcontinent and its people are being divided every day. The wounds continue to fester and stokes fire of revenge on all three sides of the border. You may not feel is because you are in a tranquil corner of the sub-continent. Try living and working for few years in North and Western India. The hatred and prejudice for the other continue to rage. What else explains the swift rise of right wing politics in India. Its time all sides have a frank conversation about partition, its causes and its implication. We have to bury the ghost of the past, if we wish for a peaceful and prosperous future.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 02:34pm

@Chacko Cherian Calicut I totally agree. What ever is destined, will happen, and independence of pakistan was the best thing that happened.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 02:38pm

The reason some indians are caught up in the falcious " we are one" comes from the Akhund Bahrat concept. I.e, if the Mughals and the British ruled the South Asian subcontinent as an empire, why can't we Hindus rule over other nations as well. But Empires fade and nations, kingdoms revert back to their original independent form. That process continues.

Gurdaspur to Islamabad Mar 13, 2015 02:39pm

Look forward don't see back whether division was good or bad. We blame each other but world powers were not interested and will not be interested in United India. Countries in the region should have relationship like Europe as we have no other option. Both countries are atomic power and war is no solution but total destruction.

Vishal Mar 13, 2015 02:40pm

In My opinion Partition was unavoidable but the way it was done gave bad elements of Hindus/Muslims to exploit people with both religions with Rape/Murder/Loot.It was like do what ever you want?Even after partition there are religious intolerance in both countries ,so what would have happened if both countries stayed together just imagine.

Kaam Mar 13, 2015 02:48pm

@Sunil Please correct yourself.. It is "Indian Muslim" not the other way around. Thanks!!!

True Indian Mar 13, 2015 02:53pm

We Indians have to think. 1947 India, East and west pakistan became independent. 1948 Sri Lanka got independence. Then Nepal and Burma. Then Bangladesh. In India , the sikhs, the seven eastern states all have liberation movements. I think more nations will want independence, if we don't bring conclusion to 1947 unfinished business of kashmir. I was like all Indians nationalistic and vowed never to give one inch of our motherland. But i read many things on Dawn and saw both sides view and realized, nationalism is hollow And will not get us peace with pakistan, kashmiris or even other states.

Rejith Mar 13, 2015 03:01pm

@SRIDHAR RAGHUNATHA RAO . No Jinnah was not at all secular. It was he who fought for a separate muslim state

lafanga Mar 13, 2015 03:01pm

@Sunil "But today no Muslim Indian wants to migrate to Pakistan, where as Hindus of Pakistan want to. This is the tragedy."

It's been 70 years since the partition so I think people are settled in with whatever they have. Are all Muslims in India thriving and happy? NO. Do all Muslims want to leave India and come to Pakistan? No. Same is true for Hindus in Pakistan. It's economics game. A few will leave but most will stay wherever they are. It's not easy to migrate.

Try not to put a different spin then what the reality shows.

hyat Mar 13, 2015 03:03pm

did we got some lessons from this pain? i am asking from india, pak, bangladesh.

Niaz Mar 13, 2015 03:05pm

Ishtqiaq Ahmed's book "The Punjab Bloodied, Partitioned and Cleansed"is worth reading as he has done extensive research and interviews with people who suffered due to the communal violence that erupted and resulted in a loss of up to 800,000 lives and many more families devastated.

It was the Punjab that was really Partitioned and Punjab is the one province that suffered the most as a result.

BHANGI CHAMAR Mar 13, 2015 03:07pm

@Kamal Pasha. Punjab Assembly never asked for Pakistan. East Punjab's Muslims haphazardly migrated overnight in the true Arabic Dictionary meaning Mahajirs but never called and amalgamated in West Punjab as Punjabis. Very lucky people who became upper ruling class and never called Mahajirs. These people who were invaded by Hindu Shahi Rajas of Afghanistan and there after invaded and controlled by Aghanistan. No Punjabi ever ruled Punjab except Ranjit Singh who got no resistance from Muslim subjects. People who migrated from Bangalore, Agra, Luckhnow at convenient times are classed as Mahajirs against of charter of independence and considered second class citizens of Pakistan by people who had never demanded Pakistan are now upper ruling class Pakistanese. Hmiristory will see what happens in future. Raja Porus was Rajput and Gulab Singh of Kashmir was also a Rajput. Ranjit Singh and Gulab Sigh butured Punjabis & Kashmiris. In Ranjit Singh's time the Sikh population was only ten per cent and there was no Muslim Resistance. Saiyyed Barelvi Shaheed not a Punjabi came across the present day Pakistan boarder.

The Indian Guru Mar 13, 2015 03:07pm

If people were more educated about harmony instead of hate this could have avoided. Its so sad so many people had to die because of dirty politics. Madness at its peak!

byju Mar 13, 2015 03:10pm

@Zak

there he goes again!

Sabir Ali Mar 13, 2015 03:17pm

Division of India happened to be one of the greatest tragedies of history. I was fifteen when partition took place. I lost five of my close family members during riots in east Punjab. So many people like me suffered physically and emotionally with a hope that our next generations will live peacefully in newly created countries. But it happened opposite. The two countries became enemies of each other with fighting wars and nuclear weapons now installed on both sides of the border pointing on each other, as if the partition has not yet completed and will complete only when one country will vanish the other. May God bring peace for our future generations.

Imran Mar 13, 2015 03:17pm

Very good step to chronicle our history. This should be done before the generation who lived through that time passes away. This project should get unlimited support from both sides. My in-laws house in Jhelum was visited by a Sikh family on their way to Hasan Abdaal. They used to live in that house up till 1947. It was a very emotional re-union with the old house. They were so keen to see all the old buildings and streets. I have seen photos of the event and can share them if needed.

Prakash Deshpande Mar 13, 2015 03:26pm

It is truly a nobel idea of preparing an archive of all the stories related to partition. This archive will help to introspect people on both sides. As the time is passing year after year the dust of partition storm is settling and more awkward questions of IFs BUTs WHYs and WHO are surfacing. As the world is increasingly getting interconnected through internet and economies are getting globalised, radicals on either side finding difficult to justify what they did. It will continue to haunt all of this subcontinent.

Tamilselvan Mar 13, 2015 03:26pm

We must not forget that it was the British who split the undivided India into three separate countries. Cultural ties of Bengalies were split on the basis of religion. Karachi and Lahore were split on similar basis. They did the same while splitting Iraq and Kuwait. Hope historians look at these in an unbiased way and bring it out instead of discussing the post partition issues Aline.

the eddy Mar 13, 2015 03:37pm

@lafanga You cannot equate the two. The Indian muslims are not all thriving but nevertheless are . But the same can never be said of Pak Hindus who have been migrating to India , because they were constitutionally denegraded as Second citizens under Objective Resolution . Look at your own media & the coverage your minorities enjoy here.

Sumit Chaudhary Mar 13, 2015 03:38pm

@Zak Manipur, awadh..!! You have any idea of where awadh lies..? just want to spill english words tied together with names of few Indian regions. Can't believe you mentioned awadh

Jatt Mar 13, 2015 03:47pm

@Zak True

Onkar Sharma Mar 13, 2015 03:52pm

Please stop writing about this painful episode of our history and move on.Do not scratch the wound. We need to put healing touch to the wounds of partition. The only way out, in my mind is - some kind of confederation between India-Pakistan-Bangladesh. Peace, friendship and brotherhood of man is the remedy.

Tamil Mar 13, 2015 03:53pm

@Sunil can you stop telling muslims about leaving because india, each one belong to their own nation. If a Gujarati Hindu does not like Tamil muslim, then let him leave Tamil nadu. Tamil belongs to our Tamil nation.

Anagha Mar 13, 2015 04:09pm

@SRIDHAR RAGHUNATHA RAO No, he was not secular. Rather Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad was more secular.

Muhammad Zia Mar 13, 2015 04:21pm

Yes we respect all peoples they living in subcontinent. If we united we will be super power ithe world.

Peace Mar 13, 2015 04:22pm

Stop responding to (crack)Zak's rhetoric and hatred on every given article, everybody! He seems absolutely jobless and comes here for his two minutes of fame. Stop responding to his absolute rubbish and that will put him and his hatred in place.

Hindu Khush Mar 13, 2015 04:27pm

My great grand parents were from Lahore Pakistan. My great grand father sent his teenaged daughter and two young sons ahead of him to India with several other family member, before he could join them. Just after crossing Lahore they were attacked by a mob. Some of them eyed the teenaged girl, and before they could reach her, knowing what her fate would be my great grand mother, killer her daughter with her own hands. Though the family then reached Delhi and is now settled in Bombay, she could never come to terms with what she had done.

Masood Akhtar Mar 13, 2015 04:36pm

This was one of most bloodiest event in the history of the world. Being part of this great endeavour I learnt a lot. Everytime I interviewed people each time I proved wrong. Each partition survivor has a unique story to tell. Every family had its own tale of intimidation and hardship. It was struggle for survival.

mba Mar 13, 2015 04:47pm

A very wellcome move. I wish you all the energy required to make the best out of this essential Project for the subcontinent.

Aslam09221 Mar 13, 2015 04:51pm

@hyat : We learnt nothing except hatred! We are still colonial slaves because we never complain about the 150 years of colonial atrocities. British leaders, MPs & Ambassadors are still reliable - good friend - both sides!! Are we truely "free" to think about the regional problems like a good neighbours? We are still Slaves!

Zeeshan Mar 13, 2015 05:14pm

I feel good about the fact that pakistan came to being. leave past behind and make future better.

PThind Mar 13, 2015 05:38pm

@lafanga ...the fact is that muslims felt relatively safer in India and kafirs did not in Pakistan. Consequently minority kafirs are almost finished in Pakistan, while muslims live on with options as any other community in India. Most rich muslims were able to migrate and the poor (because of fewer means) could not.

jakoji Mar 13, 2015 05:48pm

Get over partition.. Its almost 70 years now..

Pratap Mar 13, 2015 06:14pm

Let us live our lives AHEAD more responsibly, graciously, morally, and lovingly.

Abbas Ali Mar 13, 2015 06:18pm

On of the Great tragedies. Millions died & lost, families divided.

My relatives still live in India, but over the years we have lost all contacts with them.

When things will improve,and we might go back to search.

But good work. At least someone has the courage to see the human dimension in this rather a political narrative, which has outlived its utility-even if their was one.

tashu Mar 13, 2015 07:05pm

Whatever happened in 1947 was sad but I am glad that we separated..indian

Bobby Shah Mar 13, 2015 07:07pm

@Niaz agree

maria Mar 13, 2015 07:11pm

@Chacko Cherian Calicut. Every generation that comes needs to be made aware of the cost of the life they enjoy. Multitudes gave their lives for something they believed in, that is a lesson young men and women in their teens and early twenty must learn. Also, how politicians can manipulate a situation is a point that should always be in the foreground of our mind, because often created strife and unrest is a good distraction from the real issues that the country is facing.

Bobby Shah Mar 13, 2015 07:13pm

@BHANGI CHAMAR good knowledge

ali ahmed Mar 13, 2015 07:14pm

My father was a govt. servant in India at the time of partition,he was transferred to then East Pakistan,we lived in different part of E.P. and educated and then once again had to migrate to Pakistan empty handed.,after this i realized that it is not religion but ethnicity that is binding force .

Imtiaz Sheikh Mar 13, 2015 07:46pm

My hats off to you guys recovering stories of our independence, I wish i could be a part of this effort where first hand information can be retrieved. great work in progress.

Sandeep Singh Mar 13, 2015 07:51pm

The one and only problem i have with Partition is that Muslims still didn't left India while Hindus of Pakistan are still migrating to India every year. I am living in Bhopal and recently there are many Pakistani Hindus arrived here and also in nearby place Indore. They don't want return to Pakistan

Prasad Mar 13, 2015 07:54pm

Great effort. Who knows one day we both may unite together. These stories must be archived for future generations.

ramusha23@gmail.com Mar 13, 2015 07:54pm

@Zak remember friend. India has more muslims than in pakistan. one more thing to remember is that, muslims do not want to migrate to pakistan, whereas hindus in pakistan still migrate to india. Introspect. Dont indulge in dirty politics

Sarva Bhauma(Emperor) Mar 13, 2015 09:16pm

If partition would happened presently then 10 million people would have been killed,5 million women/girls would have been raped/killed,100 million people would have been maimed . 10 million people would have been left orphaned. 10 million people would have lost their children and siblings. 100 million people would have been displaced. 1 billion worth of wealth lost/looted. Thank god their isn't another Partition. 1947 is not only the year of celebration of independence from the British but also a black year of mass murder, mass rape, mass loot and mass exodus.

Sarva Bhauma(Emperor) Mar 13, 2015 09:18pm

In 1947 war crimes were committed in the name of religion on both sides.

Syed A. Zafar USA Mar 13, 2015 09:34pm

@True Indian .You got it right my dear. It is all about realization. It is never late, if both sides think in this manner. We have to come out of our mindsets and hatred for each other. It only helps outside third parties who love to divide and rule. The only difference between then and now is that, we were physical slaves before and now we mental slaves.

Syed A. Zafar USA Mar 13, 2015 09:53pm

@Aslam09221 Very well said.

M.Saeed Mar 13, 2015 09:59pm

@Kamal Pasha: But we are repeating the same story of partition in much worse form in Kashmir !

Arup Krishna Saha Mar 13, 2015 10:15pm

@lafanga Your views are wrong. Any neutral person knows the truth.

Yazid Jinnah Mar 13, 2015 10:15pm

@ramusha23@gmail.com Sir, there are more Muslims in India than in Pakistan after partition isn't something to be proud about its something we need to be ashamed off, because after Partition too we are not able to drive away these Bigoted Yazidi Jihadi separatist trouble makers out of India.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:21pm

@Kamal Pasha. India was never United but an empire under mughal and British rule. Atleast another 10 countries left in India should have been independent. See what is happening to sikhs in 1984 and muslims in Ayodhya and Gujarat. And ofcourse Indian ocvupied kashmir. All these countries are now influxes by other nationals, who are dictating their agenda.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:22pm

@Cyrus other than in India, no one else will care two hoots. Because for indians they will daydream about Akund baharat, like in Bollywood.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:27pm

@Sumit Chaudhary Awadh, the heartland of muslims in the north of mughal empire. They want their muslim homeland free from Indian occupation.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:30pm

@Hindu Khush move on in life. Stop hanging on to made up scenarios. Btw Hindu Kush, is a mountain in Afghanistan, referred to where Hindus are killed.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:32pm

@ramusha23@gmail.com muslims in India 150m excluding Indian ocvupied kashmiris. Pakistan muslims 200 m. No one wants to migrate to India, not even beggars.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:33pm

@Vishal intelligent assessment.

Zak Mar 13, 2015 10:36pm

@Peace an Indian telling indians not to respond to a pakistani on a pakistani forum. Don't like the truth, move back home to the dumps.

Sandip Bhattacharya Mar 13, 2015 10:37pm

@byju And did you notice that every comment of Zak is published whereas ours not!

Barbie Singh Mar 13, 2015 10:38pm

@tashu wish we too were independent like pakistan in 1947.

POLE Mar 13, 2015 10:48pm

Mughals kept everyone happy during their reign of 700 years over the subcontinent. First Brits toppled Mughal Empire by sneaking in under the shadow of East India Company and then they divided peoples hearts and minds as they are doing today in Syria, Iraq, Libya and Yemen.

Sunil USA Mar 13, 2015 11:10pm

@Zak Give your opinion about Pakistan no India

PShailendra Mar 13, 2015 11:18pm

@Zak you missed And Baluchistan is seeking independence from Pakistan

Kashmiri34 Mar 13, 2015 11:31pm

Jinnah & Nehru were responsible for it...

JET LEE Mar 13, 2015 11:38pm

@Zak Do you remember the name of Abul kalam azad (A true Indian muslim)? He already advised all muslims that Pakistan can never united. See how true he was. Still Pakistan is fighting for democracy..

JET LEE Mar 13, 2015 11:40pm

@Zak Still Pakistan has to do a lot more. Even it still can not identify the root cause of terrorism. May god save Pakistan again APS like massacre in future. Hope you also will pray to stop this kind of misfortunes.

Sandeep Singh Mar 13, 2015 11:41pm

@Zak Means you accept that mughals killed hindus

JET LEE Mar 13, 2015 11:43pm

@Zak So you are Bollywood fan too. Good to know.

Sandeep Singh Mar 13, 2015 11:43pm

Hindus killed in 1947 Pakistan , Hindus killed again in 1971 Bangladesh n Hindus again again killed in 1989 Kashmir.

nanda kb Mar 13, 2015 11:57pm

@Gurdaspur to Islamabad Dear. .. don't threat in the name of atomic power.

JK Mar 14, 2015 12:00am

@concerned_Cit Are you assuming that you would not be free had you or your ancestors stayed back in India ? That does not seems to be the case with Muslims in India.

LS Mar 14, 2015 12:31am

@Kamal Pasha. Its nice that you have that thought, but this was bound to happen one day. The seeds of division were sown long before independence. Not by politicians but by poets, educationists, local land-lords with agenda. Politicians and lawyers simply latched on to the idea that was already floating around to meet their need.

drimran Mar 14, 2015 01:38am

Thank you to our elders for giving us a separate homeland, for giving us Pakistan, where we are free to practice our religion. The mess we are now in, is a creating of our own. InshaAllah we will be able to come out of it as we always did earlier. Neither we are nor we can be the same as Hindus. The two nation theory was and should always be in our minds. May Allah forgive all of those who participated in creating this homeland of ours. Aamen Ya Rabb ..

razarana@live.com Mar 14, 2015 02:39am

@SANJEEV KUMAR YADAV If not for you or anyone else, religion is life for us muslims!

Bal K. Gupta Mar 14, 2015 03:21am

@Cyrus

Please read my memoirs on 1947 Partition. "Forgotten Atrocities: Memoirs of a Survivor of the 1947 Partition of India"

Bal K. Gupta

Bal K. Gupta Mar 14, 2015 03:29am

@not surprised Train from Pakistan was fiction. Please read my eye witness account on Partition. "Forgotten Atrocities: Memoirs of a Survivor of the 1947 Partition of India"

Bal K. Gupta

Jatt Mar 14, 2015 03:53am

@Abhishek Tomar Yes Thank you we are happy to be Pakistanis.

shadi katyal Mar 14, 2015 04:13am

The painful memories are embedded in our hearts and millions lost their lives. Some families disappeared for ever. Kidnapping and rape became a fairplay. The human beings forgot their humanity and behaved like animals in name of religion. The peaceful living with each community became an old dream. We lived as one family and grew up with sharing festivals, happy and sorrows and then suddenly we became enemies. Yes partition was there but could we not migrate without blood shed.. Where did our humanity go???

Zak Mar 14, 2015 05:01am

I enjoy reading about Pakistan's history like this when I am free of customers at my store. Keep it up DAWN!!

Furqan Mar 14, 2015 05:18am

Always wonder how cruel and dysfunctional state of mind we humans have. You are living with your neighbours for years and years share their joys and sorrows then one political decision and next day you start killing the same people.

hemmeh Mar 14, 2015 06:12am

@Kamal Pasha. If India were to be one with Pak and BD.....today we would be at the top of the world. Everyone forgot, to get freedom Hindus and Muslims have devoted in a same manner and Brit knew one day they can create big problem to the world if they left united. All the three countries are suffering within their own world!

Sumit Mazumdar Mar 14, 2015 09:56am

@Niaz Bengal?

Gurdaspur to Islamabad Mar 14, 2015 10:13am

@Hindu Khush During troubled time my father's aunty lost in Gurdaspur and all family members moved to Pakistan without her. Later when situation normalized elders from our family went to Gurdaspur India to search her and they found her as a wife of Sikh, forcefully religion changed. She did not come to Pakistan with our elder as she said there will be no respect in new circumstances. There are lot of stories of pain but we cannot go back to heal but have to look forward for friendship and betterment of our future generation.

pradeep Mar 14, 2015 10:20am

If the partition had not happen we united rule the world so sad history of our glory . English people rules us looted us and in last divided us so that we remain developing country and never become developed country and virtually we are still their slave

pradeep Mar 14, 2015 10:21am

@Muhammad Zia its true bhae

pradeep Mar 14, 2015 10:23am

@Sunil because of the worst conditions of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh . Even the muslims of both the countries whose relatives are in Bharat want to migrate

pradeep Mar 14, 2015 10:29am

@drimran bhae Bharat mae bhe muslims are free to whatever they want to practice their religion and even they have different law so its your negative thinking

Pakistani - Canadian Mar 14, 2015 10:34am

I think partition happened for our good, breaking away from india was a good thing and yes we would have been better off had we not obsessed about Kashmir so much.Yes there was a time when we were much better than india and yes we have many problems now,most of which are of our own making,but by god we will come through this phase also - we are the most beautiful people of sub continent and we have the most beautiful land in the region, stay blessed my countrymen because we shall rise again. Do not differentiate between indians,hindus and muslims of india are one and the same and not worthy of our friendship.

Jugal Kishore Sharma Mar 14, 2015 10:59am

Partition myth a gloom side to think-tank. Impact with phenomena like an adoption of policies that could finds answering faith of religious ; faith of myth that prosperities state a unique one if newly born. Vow that is possibilities till under work in progress that achieve the aim for bound free world. System we mighty design,our rule with browse in religious manure. Oh god some changeableness always with us, but common man lost in this regime

SANJEEV KUMAR YADAV Mar 14, 2015 01:00pm

Had Jawahal Lal Nehru should not have posed as future PM of independent India, some Muslim would not have pursued M.A. Jinha to demand separate land for Muslim. M.K. Gandhi also equally responsible to promote Nehru. Only JLN and MKG are responsible for this bloodshed and rape unprecedented in the history of mankind.

ch. usman tarar Mar 14, 2015 03:28pm

I could imagine how it feels to hear stories like this, my grandfather still tells me a lot he was 10 years old at the time of partition.

Bal K. Gupta Mar 14, 2015 05:02pm

@Niaz

Kashmir and Bengal were also divided. Please read my eye witness account of Partition, "Forgotten Atrocities: Memoirs of a Survivor of 1947 Partition of India".

Soumyakanti Mar 14, 2015 10:41pm

It's very surprising that The Dawn, which was the mouth piece of the Muslim League and ardent supporter of the two nation theory is getting all nostalgic about United India ! The hypocrisy of this is incredible. My grand father lost everything in East Bengal because of partition. For him (and all non Muslim Indians) the creation of Pakistan was like creation of Israel for Palestinians.

Ahmed Hanif Mar 14, 2015 11:48pm

@ Indian bhai :Thanks for your so nice thoughts, respect 4 u

Kala Ingrez Mar 15, 2015 01:14am

@Sandeep Singh - I like to know how they manged to enter India to live, for Indian law is very particular about people from Pakistani, Nepalis and Bangladeshi origin regardless of religion. Sounds like you want to stir some garbage dialogue here otherwise tell us, some of us Muslims want to go back and at least visit our motherland?

Others Mar 15, 2015 04:42am

@True Indian Well my friend there is propaganda all over. Punjab and Kashmir are out of red for many decades now. The source that fueled them have been dried up. Hope you are not that source.

Arpan Dutta Mar 15, 2015 05:29pm

Why not have a joint effort to take these people to their old homes and neighbourhoods in both sides of the border to reunite them with their childhood? Even if its for a day or two I think it will serve them a purpose.

muhammad hanif Mar 18, 2015 01:18pm

@Sabir Ali

sir please give us time to record your migration story on behalf of 1947 partition archive please

Regards Hanif

muhammad hanif Mar 18, 2015 01:38pm

@Bal K. Gupta where to read these memoirs

regards Hanif

hindu khush Mar 18, 2015 01:41pm

@Gurdaspur to Islamabad I understand. Please note that we have moved very much on. The incident I mentioned was narrated by the elders of the family. Now with most of the generation gone, we wont get to hear it anymore. Also please note that I have not mentioned any religion anywhere in my comment. Humanity is higher than any religion.

muhammad hanif Mar 18, 2015 01:43pm

@Ahmad Thanx for appreciation Ahmad

hindu khush Mar 18, 2015 01:51pm

@Zak Looks like You or your family never witnessed partition. Whatever made you think that it is a made up scenario. I dont need to convince you. I considered this to be a platform to share the incidents witnessed by those affected by partition. Get your history right, before commenting on the name. Hindu Khush is an ancient name to convey a mountain where people of the Indian subcontinent collectively called Hindus (not religion), faced harsh weather conditions. the mountains were known with the name since the first century while the world 'Hindu' to represent a religion dates to 18th century

hindu khush Mar 18, 2015 01:59pm

@Syed A. Zafar USA very true. If not friends, we can atleast not be enemies. We should live our own lives, without interfering in others' activities.