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ISLAMABAD: A lawmaker from the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) has demanded action against non-state actors, especially Jamaat-ud-Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed, BBC Urdu reported.

During a meeting of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs held Thursday, PML-N lawmaker Rana Muhammad Afzal asked, “Which eggs is Hafiz Saeed laying for us that we are nurturing him?"

He also said, “The efficacy of our foreign policy speaks for itself when we couldn’t curtail Hafiz Saeed.”

“India has built such a case against us about the JuD chief that during the meeting on Kashmir, foreign delegates mention him [Hafiz Saeed] as the bone of contention between Pakistan and India,” he maintained.

Rana recalled a recent trip to France, where he had been tasked to explain the worsening situation in Kashmir, and said that the name of Hafiz Saeed was brought up time and again by foreign delegates.

The lawmaker said that although he had rarely heard about Hafiz Saeed during his 25 years in politics, Saeed was considered a notorious character in international circles. He asked whether Hafiz Saeed was good or bad for the Kashmir cause.

Rana said that although the government's stance on Kashmir is correct, banned outfits were a source of embarrassment for the country.

It was reported in Dawn newspaper on Thursday that state policy on non-state actors was discussed in a high-level security meeting between civilian and military leadership.

In an unprecedented warning, the civilian government has informed the military leadership of a growing international isolation of Pakistan and sought consensus on several key actions by the state.

During the meeting it was decided that military-led intelligence agencies are not to interfere if law enforcement acts against militant groups that are banned or until now considered off-limits for civilian action.

In an email to DawnNews, Afzal denied seeking any action against Hafiz Saeed.

He, however, acknowledged to have said that: “His [Hafiz Saeed] optics give India an opportunity to blackmail Pakistan internationally. If he is of no benefit to Pakistan, then why are we allowing his optics to affect loss to Pakistan?”

Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry summarised the results of the recent diplomatic outreach by Pakistan, the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals.

In response to Foreign Secretary Chaudhry’s conclusions, Gen Akhtar asked what steps could be taken to prevent the drift towards isolation. Chaudhry’s reply was direct and emphatic: the principal international demands are for action against Masood Azhar and the Jaish-i-Mohmmad; Hafiz Saeed and the Lashkar-i-Taiba; and the Haqqani network.

To that, Gen Akhtar offered that the government should arrest whomever it deems necessary, though it is unclear whether he was referring to particular individuals or members of banned groups generally. At that point came the stunning and unexpectedly bold intervention by Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif.


Comments (166) Closed



SB Oct 06, 2016 06:39pm

It is a high time for Pakistan to learn and move on

sunny Oct 06, 2016 06:41pm

Its true.

HARRY Oct 06, 2016 06:41pm

Finally some sane voices.

Nomi Goraya Oct 06, 2016 06:42pm

This is very right time that state should come all in POWER. These people are Pakistani and have all rights as per constitution of Pakistan but such people must not be given rights to comment and dictate foreign policy of country. Pakistan do not need support of such people for her legitimate cause like Kashmir rather from my point of view such people weakens our legal and right stand on Kashmir. Such people make indigenous and right uprising and struggle of Kashmir look like triggered by such elements

SMI Oct 06, 2016 06:47pm

Why there is no action against corrupt politicians!!

salman Oct 06, 2016 06:49pm

finally someone asking .

A K Oct 06, 2016 06:51pm

Appreciate DAWN for this post!

superman Oct 06, 2016 06:50pm

Agree

Abdul Mannan Oct 06, 2016 06:55pm

We are strong and we are very powerful. Ban these non state actors. With God's will, we can tackle and defend Kashmir.

UTPAL KUMAR BASU Oct 06, 2016 06:54pm

hats off to you sir, hats off from an indian for speaking the truth.

Faisal Ayub Oct 06, 2016 06:55pm

Who is Hafiz Saeed??? I mean he is not a government official or something then why is he given so much importance??? Hafiz Saeed is a bad omen for Kashmir

M. Emad Oct 06, 2016 06:55pm

Who will bell the Cat ?

arun Oct 06, 2016 06:56pm

Whole india is shouting over this for years!!!!Hats off!!!!!

ejaz Oct 06, 2016 06:59pm

At last someone has courage to ask this question. Collusion between state and non-state elements goes back to the time of Gen. Zia. State must end this relationship as soon as possible.

Only kriket Oct 06, 2016 07:00pm

Perfect and big honour to Mr. Rana. Such positive wave warm welcome from INDIA.

Arslan Oct 06, 2016 07:04pm

What about militant organisations supported by PMLN and other parties for that matter?

Tariq Oct 06, 2016 07:04pm

We should get rid of this kind of people not for the sake of india but for the future of our own society

Najaf Oct 06, 2016 07:06pm

Why? Why should there be action against Hafiz Saeed? Just because India wants so? So we set an example that we would do what India wants? Arrest any citizen of Pakistan that India labels as a terrorist? Sorry I don't agree. We should not be dictated by other countries!

Dev Oct 06, 2016 07:07pm

The undeniable fact is people of both the nations want peace. Something happens every day and we get agitated, say slogans , insult each other on forums but at the end of the day, we want peace.

What will Pakistan gain on getting Kashmir and what will India really lose on giving it up? We citizens are not going to get benefited either way.

Raju Oct 06, 2016 07:08pm

Non state actors always perform at their own , generally without the consent of govt , but at international level , govt has to bear all blame

Ahmad Oct 06, 2016 07:08pm

why should we act against you and your corruption first ???

Kumar Oct 06, 2016 07:10pm

Finally someone talking sense. Action against non state actors, everything will get better. We know the differences between india and Pakistan. Let's narrow down those. We don't need American or Chinese after that to grow. We have potential to out number the whole world.

Ilias from NL Oct 06, 2016 07:13pm

If once Indian Govt resolve the Kashmir matter according to UN resolution Lashkare Taiyaba would never go aggressive against them any more and peace and progress will grow in this whole region.

Dr.Arshad Oct 06, 2016 07:14pm

I don't think by arresting him and putting him behind the bars will affect a change in the attitude of our enemies. Of late we have read the news concerning tightening the noose around non state actors' necks. Mr. Nawaz Sharif must understand that whether you appease your enemies or not ,they will remain Pakistan's enemies.

Indian Oct 06, 2016 07:15pm

Good thinking by Pakistan.

M.S. Oct 06, 2016 07:16pm

Any thing against Hafiz Sahib must be proven in the court of law in Pakistan.

M.Jamal Oct 06, 2016 07:20pm

Some one is going to be caged but not the corrupts who have ruined Pakistan.

Irfan Oct 06, 2016 07:17pm

finally some sane voices coming out !

SK Oct 06, 2016 07:18pm

@Najaf ...so you wont do what India wants, but India should do each and everything that you people want...is it??

Attique Oct 06, 2016 07:22pm

Why Nawaz Sharif is not accountable for his overseas properties and panama leakes.

Tahir A Oct 06, 2016 07:20pm

AT LAST - For God's sake somebody is making sense.

Mansoor Oct 06, 2016 07:20pm

Then what about shiv sena?

Ajee Oct 06, 2016 07:23pm

@Najaf Not surprised at all....

VJ Oct 06, 2016 07:21pm

Atleast some sane voice in pakistan..

Mahmood Oct 06, 2016 07:22pm

Good question.

Human Oct 06, 2016 07:22pm

Rana sir, you are the guiding light.

Canadian Oct 06, 2016 07:23pm

Government must take actions against "non state actors" to prove that they are truly fighting against terrorism.

Asad Abbas Oct 06, 2016 07:28pm

Sugestion: put Hafiz Saeed on trial, if he is found guilty he should go to prison, if not then honorable Judiciary should give him the right to roam free. But even in that case, he should be warned that "no more hate speeches" allowed.

bg Oct 06, 2016 07:28pm

Now we are talking

State actor Oct 06, 2016 07:31pm

@Dr.Arshad You are missing the point. Regardless of whether India is your friend or foe you have to recognise that non-state actors are no friends of yours. So get rid of the enemy within first then tackle your external enemies.

Anuj Sharma Oct 06, 2016 07:31pm

Finally some sane voices coming in from Pakistan. India and pakistan can show the world that if they work together they can solve any problem in the world. People here share the same genes and are capable of doing anything

vishal Oct 06, 2016 07:32pm

awesome Bravo hats soft u..sir atleast some genius voice come for pakistan.

desi Oct 06, 2016 07:31pm

Now asking the right questions!

ronny Oct 06, 2016 07:35pm

Good thinking, this is the start. And you have to go long ways. But at least state is thinking in the right direction.

rita Oct 06, 2016 07:35pm

@Ilias from NL Have you read the UN resolution? Please read it before commenting

M. Siddique Oct 06, 2016 07:38pm

Action should be taken against this guy.

anony Oct 06, 2016 07:36pm

There is no proof against Hafiz Saeed. We as a sovereign nation, CANNOT take action against a citizen just because some other country asks us to.

sumeet Oct 06, 2016 07:36pm

@Ilias from NL Have you read the UN resolution sir? before that the first demand from UN itself is that Pakistan completely demilitarize kashmir. Can pakistan do that? It also allows that India can maintain force for its protection. and then last to held election.

hameed fraz Oct 06, 2016 07:36pm

@M. Emad well said

Zulfi Oct 06, 2016 07:39pm

We need to rein in all unsavoury elements such as LeT, JeM and Haqqani. They are nothing but a nuisance. As our experience with 'mujahideen' such as TTP has shown us, it is only a matter of time before these rogue elements turn their guns on us and wreak havoc in the rest of the country. There is no military or militant solution to Kashmir.

M. Siddique Oct 06, 2016 07:38pm

@arun, handle this guy. India is shouting but has its priority backwards. How about giving freedom to Kashmir. Entire Kashmir is shouting for freedom.

mujeeb Oct 06, 2016 07:38pm

no lawmaker ever asked who was kul bashan yadev and wh was he present in balochistan?

sumeet Oct 06, 2016 07:39pm

I'm from India who live in London and have many many friends from Pakistan who are like family to me. man you will never get good if you protect terrorist, no matter what... they will come and bite you back and history has seen this over and over again

Dr.Arshad Oct 06, 2016 07:40pm

@State actor ....And so are Indian extremists like RSS,Shiv Sena and BJP. Pakistanis know fully well that they will continue to live alongside their hostile neighbour.

Hazra Oct 06, 2016 07:45pm

Appreciate that some leaders are raising these questions now. They should put consistent political pressure on whoever is protecting them.

Shamsuddin Zounr Oct 06, 2016 07:43pm

@arun Hope some one sane from India too would rise and talk against ur brand of Hafiz Saeed types namely; Ball Thakrey

Solah aanne Oct 06, 2016 07:43pm

What happened in Pakistan when mushraff acted against lal masjid, it will be chaos.

pakistani Oct 06, 2016 07:46pm

Tell the nation abt panama first then talk. Ur sole motive is to come in power and make offshore properties.

sbk Oct 06, 2016 07:44pm

@Nomi Goraya , Truth is always bitter; Your comment confirms that.

Pucca Hindustani Oct 06, 2016 07:44pm

Bal Thackrey is dead... let us move on

rahul Oct 06, 2016 07:47pm

@Finally some great voices are sougting from pak.

Bhushan baburao rane Oct 06, 2016 07:50pm

Better late than never

Rashid Oct 06, 2016 07:50pm

Which eggs are polititions laying for Pakistan specially pml n ?

indian scientist. Oct 06, 2016 07:52pm

The most valid question of the decade.

Ravi Vancouver Oct 06, 2016 07:54pm

@Dr.Arshad Acting against mom state actors is not bending under Indian pressure. Pakistan need to act against these internationally banned terror groups who were provided safe heaven in Pakistan until now for whatever reason. This is in Pakistan's interest to act against such terror groups which are major threat to security and earn bad name for the country. Pakistan should not be seen as a state providing state protection to banned terror groups, even banned by Pakistan.

Aftab Oct 06, 2016 07:58pm

Here we go ! The genie is out now.

Denali Oct 06, 2016 07:57pm

Finally and hopefully an end to the double standard.

syed wasim haider Oct 06, 2016 07:59pm

You went to France for Kashmir atrocites; please tell us about your performance. Did u convince or inform them about the killings etc. in Kashmir.

Fahim Khan Oct 06, 2016 07:59pm

Molvi Abdul Aziz is also "out of scope" in National inAction Plan.

Srikanth Oct 06, 2016 08:02pm

Great , i feel this will be good move from pakistan govt side if it can act against Hafiz Saeed

Khan, Canada Oct 06, 2016 08:08pm

Rana Muhammad Afzal ...you are the govt. take action if you have evidence against all terrorists and don't just give speeches.

Dr.Arshad Oct 06, 2016 08:17pm

@Ravi Vancouver ....Your point holds some water but the irritants will remain between these two neighbours.The most important being Kashmir.India's inflexibility on this vital issue will keep aggravating this situation. Extremists on either sides thrive by exploiting such issues. Was this guy and his ilk around during 1948,1965 and 1971 indo-pak wars?

Satya Oct 06, 2016 08:19pm

could be another drama to buy time and calm down the international powers who are currently furious about Pakistan's policy of nurturing non state actors.

SAM Oct 06, 2016 08:19pm

@Dr.Arshad Sir, he is hurting Pakistan!!! Period.

NewDelhi Oct 06, 2016 08:21pm

Good to hear some sane voice...

Indian Oct 06, 2016 08:23pm

Rana Muhammad Afzal ,highly appreciate,please keep standing up against terror masterminds who are enemy of common people of both India and Pakistan.

Global Peace Oct 06, 2016 08:25pm

Good job. Please go ahead and listen to the world

Ansir Oct 06, 2016 08:28pm

So we have sensible people in N-league. Harbouring these notorious extremists is destroying our international good will and perception.

Jawad Oct 06, 2016 08:28pm

I think Gen has given a very swift reply that take actions against whoever they want to after all its govt responsibility. Its not about India, its about us. We have to decide our future course. these outfits have no significance for Pakistan and Pak Army is enough to defend our country. We don't need these people to represent us. They are neither elected nor representing any masses in our country. Instead they are an embarrassment to us and they give India chance to hide their atrocities in Kashmir behind their curtain.

Let's take strict action against them and also raise our voice for Kashmiris more strongly. Kashmiri just need our moral and political support which is enough for them to keep their fight on.

Saleem Hayat Oct 06, 2016 08:31pm

It is high time to get Pakistan back from the hands of extremists.

HS Oct 06, 2016 08:40pm

We need proof to substantiate any action.

Exlim Oct 06, 2016 08:43pm

Finally some truth talk. Obviously, the military and intelligence agencies have been protecting these groups and religious parties as tools, to stay in business.

At this point, the blow back could be extremely costly to Pakistan, if they started going after these groups.

The 'military's wisdom' sounds like an oxymoron now.

HS Oct 06, 2016 08:41pm

How has this man terrorised the world ?

Dexter Oct 06, 2016 08:41pm

Good News. If followed up, this will be great for Pakistan.

TruePakistani Oct 06, 2016 08:42pm

Somebody should have spoken about this long back. Better late than never. Enough damage has been done. Time to act and reverse the damage

Hassan Pavez Oct 06, 2016 08:43pm

@Dr.Arshad Totally disagree with your analyses. These terrorists are responsible for creating the so called enemies. By arresting them and punishing them for the crimes they have committed, we will convert our enemies in friends.

syed wasim haider Oct 06, 2016 08:57pm

Nation should know the performances of the 20 delegates who went to convince the world capitals about Kashmir on taxpayers' money.

Hasin Ahmed Oct 06, 2016 09:02pm

The news augurs a dangerous situation for all the players.

Gaurav rajput Oct 06, 2016 09:08pm

Appreciable move.

Pakistani Oct 06, 2016 09:06pm

Pakistan is at cross roads now. The cross border terrorism has to be controlled by our military and allow the Kashmiris to take their struggle forward. It is counter productive to allow non-state actors to have a free run at this stage. It will only give Pakistan a bad name in the world and hold back our progress as a nation.

pkkk Oct 06, 2016 09:18pm

Today i salute DAWN for this news...Salute once again

Straight Forward Oct 06, 2016 09:37pm

Really amazed to see the comments from Pakistan citizens want the same. I believe now that all citizens across both countries do not want terrorism. It is an instrument for some to keep their mission going, and survive on that. Hope to see strict action and get Pakistan back with full energy towards economical growth across all sections of society.

Bihari Oct 06, 2016 10:01pm

Just be friend of india and I assure you SAARC region will become the most developed in next 20 years....there should not be enemity across border....

linoha Oct 06, 2016 10:07pm

Want to salute Dawn News for this brave journalism, hats of to you for posting this truth..

SMJ Oct 06, 2016 10:38pm

I believe Pakistan and India should sanely and politically solve all matters especially Kashmir leaving away all non state actors. One need to understand that terrorism and war can solve nothing. For God sake let this hatred go away.

Indian Oct 06, 2016 11:18pm

@Dr.Arshad pls understand we are not your enemy. We are half brothers from same land with same culture and same values. Let politicians say what they want, common people from both countries should not get carried away

NPS Oct 06, 2016 11:29pm

If Pakistan can overcome These People, than the Problems between India and Pakistan would minimise to zero.

Haroon Salam Oct 06, 2016 11:33pm

Glad to know that indian diplomacy is working and Pakistan is not bound to take action against dreaded terrorists like Hafeez Saeed, Azhar Masood and Dawood. These terrorists have commited to unpardonable crimes to Indian Society. they must be repatriated to India and tried in Indian Court. they must be hanged to death in India. then only lost innocent lives of Indians will be avenged.

Please note that non state actors can not function without active support from state machinery.

John Eappen Oct 06, 2016 11:34pm

These comments below shows Indian and Pakistani Civilians including me we need peace and focus on development of our people .Fifty years ago someone who used to rule us just put a fire among us and that fire is still burning its better to put of the flame and look for the growth of our economy together and reduce the poverty and suffering of the poor and unfortunate people among us in our continent

NPS Oct 06, 2016 11:38pm

Pakistan has been Held hostage by These Elements for Long time. Time is right to get rid of this menace.

Aditya Sharma Oct 06, 2016 11:42pm

@Abdul Mannan : What is so interesting in Kashmir that you feel the need to defend it at all cost? Is it because it is a Muslim dominated state and is that a good enough reason for you to lay claim to it? Is it because you think it was always yours and India captured it by force and you need to get it back? There has to be a reason why so many people seem so interested in the hilly state. Is it because you want to take more vacations there because of its natural beauty? You do understand that there is a portion of Kashmir which you already control and you can do everything which you want there right now without needing to do more. You do understand that no matter what force you threaten to use, India which is 10 times larger than you economically and spends 6 times more on defense then you do will be able to match and beat that every single time. You do understand that threatening to use Nuclear weapons is such a cliched threat which can never be implemented. And i mean never.

Parvez Oct 06, 2016 11:42pm

Its funny that the sitting government is asking this question.....aren't they supposed to initiate action ?

Shahid Oct 06, 2016 11:47pm

I think he does know th law. You cannot arrest somebody without any valid reason and evidence. India is master in spreading false propaganda.

Inder Oct 06, 2016 11:55pm

Thanks for raising this issue Rana ji... Thanks DAWN for posting this news..

Sajj Oct 07, 2016 12:02am

About time!!

Aman Khan Oct 07, 2016 12:01am

The crux of the report is that PMLN endorses what India says, i.e. the turmoil in Occupied Kashmir is not a struggle for self-determination or an indigenous movement but a result of terrorism by Hafiz Saeed.

Manu Oct 07, 2016 12:07am

Now some courage to follow truth. Picked up the right track. Clean terrorism and talk. If you go in right path the would would follow and respect.

Sachin Oct 07, 2016 12:09am

Militancy is no longer a winnable strategy. A study should be done how much the negative image has cost Pakistan in real rupees over last 40 years.

K. Srinivas Oct 07, 2016 12:26am

Rana Mohammad Afzal, an elected representative to the Government in Islamabad, claims that in his 25 years of political life, he has rarely heard of Hafeez Said ; So now, after all these years, he has woken up from his deep slumber ! Welcome to the real world !! A Canadian.

Mustafa R. Oct 07, 2016 01:11am

If any entity foreign or domestic has any grievance against Hafiz Saeed they can pursue it in a court of law in Pakistan. The politicians should not be allowed a repeat of Mir Aimal Kasi and send a citizen to death without due process of law of the land to please Western governments or institutions like UN.

Anjum Oct 07, 2016 01:10am

@Raju Whose responsibility is it stop bad conduct of its citizens(s)? When we hear the 'non-state' actors, what exactly the term means? Are these people not part of Pakistan & illegally hiding there (unlike law abiding majority of the citizens of the country)? Are the independent to do whatever they like? Please think about this.

Mustafa R. Oct 07, 2016 01:10am

@UTPAL KUMAR BASU;

'hats off from an indian for speaking the truth.'

Why not speak the truth yourselves.

Mustafa R. Oct 07, 2016 01:13am

The law maker does not understand that a citizen has the protection of the law of the land.

Mukul Oct 07, 2016 01:22am

@Mansoor Shivsena has not done anything wrong in pakistan Saeed is responsible for attacks in india. If he does that in pakistan, india doesnt care ....

OZ Oct 07, 2016 01:27am

@M.S. Laal, Masjid case is enough proof against. Musharraf wanted to put him behind bars but mullahs and Nawaz were against it. Now s the he should be put away for good.

ZAK Oct 07, 2016 01:34am

"the crux being that Pakistan faces diplomatic isolation and that the government’s talking points have been met with indifference in major world capitals."

This is concerning -- very concerning -- pakistan needs to honestly assess as to why the world listens to India but refuses to listen to pakistan?!?!

Anjum Oct 07, 2016 01:35am

@Jawad Thank you for your great comment. Need to ponder who supported these people over the last 12-15 years and what damage that costed the country's credibility. All should raise their voices against the supporters too!

Patriot Oct 07, 2016 02:09am

Never forget that all governments, particularly since Bhutto had succumbed to the demands of these so called 'non state'actors through constitutional amendments. Zia empowered them to the extant that they became bigger than Pakistan, and Sharif brothers have also met their every demands. These elements are more powerful in Punjab than any other province? You need to make some fundamental changes including reversing the constitutional amendments that allow state persecution of minorities.

Indian Oct 07, 2016 02:16am

@syed wasim haider

You went to France for Kashmir atrocites; please tell us about your performance. Did u convince or inform them about the killings etc. in Kashmir.

He failed in his mission. Read the news.

Samir Lone Oct 07, 2016 02:25am

I don't support Mr Saeed at all but the bitter fact is zero evidence exists against him. Making anti India speeches or speeches about Kashmir freedom is not against Pakistani law and we follow Pakistani law not Indian law or British or American law. The real culprits are those who have killled nearly 1 lakh Kashmiris over the past 30 years

Zulqarnaib Oct 07, 2016 02:31am

One thing i never understood, why the individuals become more important than the overall foreign policy of the country? How it become more important to protect these lunatic individual as compared to 199.99 crore people who just want peace in the region. Who the heck is this guy that have become so important for Pakistan and China, that it needs China to block any action directed towards this individual. Is he (God forbid) so important to be protected as compared to 200 crore Pakistanis and millions of Kashmiris? What the heck is going on?... Are these lunatics, I have observed right from the moment i got enrolled in Punjab University, the so called religious Cartels... going to define our future?... for how long ... for how long .. and for God's sake how looong... ???

Kam Oct 07, 2016 02:41am

Good realization. Keep moving in right direction, which is required for the sake of this country.

Bin Adam Oct 07, 2016 03:02am

Overwhelming educated and peace loving Pakistanis have always condemned with hearts and souls all the terrorist attacks perpetrated any where in India same as they condemn such devilish acts of terrorism carried out in Pakistan. After Indian Govt's specific nominations of some non-state Pakistani players by name/s being responsible for the terrorism over their land and people Pakistan Govt should have given the matter top most priority to the best of satisfaction of the Indian Govts. It was the prime responsibility of Pakistan Govts to give top attention to the issue either by handing over the alleged masterminds of the terrorism or by proving their innocence through a committee comprising of both Countries legislatures and higher courts judges, to the best of the satisfaction of the Indian Govts/people. ( here by people I mean the sane majority of the great Nation and not a handful of those born with hateful, hostile and radical souls whom you may never ever satisfy )

Sajan Sureshnath Oct 07, 2016 03:05am

It's not about who wants what but about those people who creates disturbances and effect a nation with their own interests... Some one like Hafiz is no good to mankind or religion and hence he must be punished.

Life is not large but we can still live it large only by loving lives...

Khan USA Oct 07, 2016 03:31am

Kashmir can only bring peace between two nations !

Bilal Pardesi Oct 07, 2016 03:36am

Hafiz Saeed should be isolated and trialled in a court of law for his hate speech !

Singh Oct 07, 2016 04:04am

@Shamsuddin Zounr : He is dead long ago.

Akbar Khan Oct 07, 2016 05:00am

Pakistan has to alter current path. We are with PML-N if they are showing genuine concerns.Anyone objecting it must be cut to its size.

Happiness of the people is supreme.

Vindo Oct 07, 2016 05:09am

@Dr.Arshad give an example of what wrong these organizations has done to Pakistan

Sunil Mehta Oct 07, 2016 05:11am

Good question. Inquiring minds want to know.

Ashish Oct 07, 2016 05:33am

@Mansoor Siva sena is an poltical organisation. It has noting to do with Pakistan.

tarik Oct 07, 2016 05:38am

Pakistan should take action against Panama Leaks.

Analyzer Oct 07, 2016 06:33am

@Hassan Pavez : bro well said . Salute to you from across the border .

shankar Oct 07, 2016 07:21am

Pakistan, you are taking my breath away! So much change for the good in such a short time? Am I dreaming or is this for real!

Human Oct 07, 2016 08:51am

@Dev it s all about water. Pak s worried abt waters which both nations will fight for. Let us not fight... Try to build trust which will reduce trnsions

Ashfaq Oct 07, 2016 08:56am

Offlimit outfits either for OUR AGENCIES OR a certain VOTE BANK keepers for political parties, its now time to recall a smooth and tranparent action, no more dubious actions

Subhashis Oct 07, 2016 09:05am

@Jawad Your words carry a lot of meaning bro.Worth contemplating.

syam Oct 07, 2016 09:06am

@Dev very well said

Arshad Oct 07, 2016 10:06am

Dawn is really appreciated to highlight such an important issue

hassan Oct 07, 2016 10:54am

Charity begins at home start with model town.

D.K. PAMNANIK Oct 07, 2016 11:08am

We indians welcome this statement and now think that there are some right thinking minds in Pakistan who can serve Pakistan much better than today's leaders. Thanks

WiseAdvice Oct 07, 2016 11:28am

Good to see such articles in Pakistan. I suppose media should play active role in asking govt about terror, corruption, non-performance. Some sane voices are raised to curtail these people who are using pakistani terrority for malicious activities.

Arshad Oct 07, 2016 11:44am

Finally... Some sanity..! May such voices gain enough strength..!

ANIMESH Oct 07, 2016 12:36pm

Wonder article by Dawn. India-Pak were one country not too long ago. We should fight against this kind of separatists who are spreading hatred against two brothers..i.e. India-Pak

Sangumark Lungi Oct 07, 2016 02:27pm

Finally someone sees the point!

vishal Oct 07, 2016 02:51pm

@syed wasim haider Good question!

vishal Oct 07, 2016 02:51pm

@Khan USA I dont think Kashmir is any problem?

Aslam Shaikh Oct 07, 2016 03:16pm

@Kumar What about Indian Non-state actors who always blast "Good Relation" in the middle of talks. Indian Media openly support Hindu Extremist and their philosophy of Akhand Bharat therefore politicians cannot move towards Pakistan Peace talks.

Tauseef Oct 07, 2016 05:23pm

Resolve Kashmir issue, give up military and institutions/groups like Shiv Sena, then it can be considered legitimate.

Tauseef Oct 07, 2016 05:26pm

Give Kashmirs their right.

Feroz Oct 07, 2016 06:53pm

@Hassan Pavez Excellent reply to Dr Arshad. Law and order demands anyone who breaks the law and indulges in criminal behavior must be tried and prosecuted.

Mustafa R. Oct 07, 2016 07:17pm

Judging from the comments, MML- (N) has a lot of support outside Pakistan.

Samir Lone Oct 07, 2016 08:41pm

@vishal you don't think there's a problem in Kashmir? You must have been sleeping for past 3 months, leave alone past 3-4 decades. They won't be part of India.

Sid Oct 08, 2016 05:51am

Good point being raised by politicians. If you get rid of all these annoying internationally ear marked troublemakers from Pakistan - you get peace, cricket and tourism back. Great for the Pakistan public, economy and first step towards international recognition that Pakistan is a safe place.

Nasrul Hassan Oct 08, 2016 09:30am

@vishal I don't think that it will solve the problem at large. Kashmeer must be free for a solution in long term. That's it

Fazal Karim Oct 08, 2016 09:47am

Laskar Taiba and Jaish e Muhammad represent a sentiment arising out of Kashmir dispute. Restore autonomous status of fifties for Kashmir within Indian union, This will solve all out standing problems and there will be complete peace. For the sake prosperity of people on both sides it is not bad bargain.

monk Oct 08, 2016 11:11am

@Nomi Goraya Especially when is world is struggling against terrorism.

Farrukh Oct 08, 2016 12:09pm

We should better call spade a spade. These people like Massod Azhar, Hafiz Saeed Haqqani Network are doing no good for Pakistan and should be banned and punished. India for instance may be wrong but her stance on these people holds gravity.

Jitendraa Singh Oct 08, 2016 02:21pm

When you question yourself , you are on right path.Do it on daily basis and see the magic....

zeeshan Oct 08, 2016 03:48pm

Its Indian Demand or Pakistan’s national policy to Act against non-state actors. Whatever would be the reason, Pakistan is a sovereign country, we are strong, we are powerful we can defend and tackle Kashmir as well. So why we should shelter these non-state actors.

Shanu Oct 08, 2016 04:19pm

There is a difference between Bangladesh and Pakistan. If Bangalis started hanging her people, due to scare of India, why should we follow these steps? Why should we hang XYZ because india wants this. By the way we are not Bangaladeshis, we are Pakistanis.

Shiv Sena is a political Party in India, a terrorist millitant group, they are allow to take all illigal actions against Muslims, Christians, Sikhs in India and are sitting in indian Govt legally.. Whereas in Pakistan we don't have such a millitant group selected by the people and sitting in Pakistani's cabinate.. So India should start cleaning her cabinate with such millitants groups before asking Pakistan do this and that.. If these Millitants groups are legal in India, why not xyz groups from Pakistan are illigal?

Sanjay Batra Oct 08, 2016 04:29pm

Hats off for asking...

arif Oct 08, 2016 05:33pm

@zeeshan million dollar question.

arif Oct 08, 2016 05:34pm

@Ilias from NL Read the text of the resolution first

Jaffar Akbari Oct 08, 2016 06:58pm

Such groups and people exist in all countries specially those having hostile relationship with other countries. But they keep such people in low profile and behind curtains. Where as we let those people to address public meatings, lead processions hold press conferences, and even demonstrate for their demands. This is stupid. Other than Hafiz Saeed the groups are doing terrorism within our country on religious basis. Political parties are aligning with them to increase vote bank. If at all Hafiz Saeed is required for Kashmir and India cause he should be given false entity and made to change his profile and never to show his presence. The other groups including Taliban of all kind should be put behind bars for ever. We should ask for arrest of Bal Thakre and even Narendar Modi as he openly declared that he is, was and will go on doing terrorism in Pakistan.

MA Oct 08, 2016 07:42pm

So let me get this straight, this guy hasn't done crime, he represent freedom struggle in Kashmir. China is helping Pakistan blocking any UN resolution that will hurt freedom struggle. We say we morally support them, then we put someone in Jail who stand for it. Pakistani Polity PMLN has very close ties with Modi wants them arrested where as China is standing with them internationally. Do we even know what our national interest are. Do our polity really represent our national interests. Are they really Pakistani