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Pakistan's credentials stronger than India for NSG membership: Sartaj Aziz

Updated Jun 13, 2016 08:35am

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ISLAMABAD: Adviser to Prime Minister on Foreign Affairs Sartaj Aziz on Sunday said Pakistan's credentials for the membership of Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) are stronger than India's if the 48-nation cartel agrees to form a uniform criteria for non-NPT states.

In an exclusive interview with DawnNews, Aziz said Pakistan has diplomatically engaged numerous countries over the criteria-based approach for non-NPT countries.

"If the group forms such a uniform criteria, then Pakistan has stronger credentials for NSG membership than India."

Related: Indian inclusion could affect strategic stability, Pakistan tells Nuclear Suppliers Group

"Our strategy was to apply after India did, after which we would have immediately followed. We have had our application in an advance state of readiness for the past three months for this this purpose," Aziz said.

He claimed that Pakistan has gradually gathered support for the criteria based approach.

Related: Pakistan applies for membership of NSG

"Last week, I telephoned the foreign ministers of Russia, New Zealand and South Korea, who will in future head the NSG, and our viewpoint was that they should support the criteria-based approach, and we have gathered support for it, China was already supporting it," said the adviser to PM.

He expressed hope that, due to Pakistan's efforts and its strong credentials, if India gains entry into the club, Pakistan will not be left behind.

Answering a question regarding nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan's confession, he said Pakistan has come a long way since then and everyone has witnessed Pakistan safeguarding its nuclear assets.

"If you compare it with India, when our neigbouring country conducted a nuclear test in 1974, it misused the nuclear supplies given to it for peaceful purposes, which led to the formation of NSG. After that nuclear fissile material was stolen from India, but such an instance has never occurred in Pakistan," Aziz said.

Related: China leads resistance to India joining Nuclear Suppliers Group: diplomats

'US building India against China'

Aziz said US has formed a policy to 'build up India' as "their entire attention is towards containing the Islamic world and China".

"We cannot question them but we repeatedly tell them that you (US) are a sovereign country and can maintain any level of relations with any country, but if you increase the strategic and conventional imbalance in South Asia, our problems will increase," said the foreign affairs adviser while referring to US support for India's inclusion in NSG

Also Read: The Indo-US alliance

Pak-India relations

Regarding Pakistan's relations with India, he said things have changed as the Modi administration wants to normalise ties, but according to their 'preferences' and India does not wish to discuss the Kashmir issue.

"The whole world agrees that the two countries should start dialogue for lasting peace in South Asia."

Replying to a question about Indian 'spy' Kulbhushan Jhadav and apprising the world of his activities, Aziz stated India raises the issue of Pakistan's non-state actors and their subversive activities in India repeatedly, but Jhadav is a state-actor as he is a RAW operative.

"But what is more important is that his (Jhadav) documentation is correct and we are preparing a proper dossier about his activities and network, so we can share it with friendly countries, the UN and the P5 countries," said Aziz.

'US could not explain the Mullah Mansour drone strike'

When asked as to what message did the US want to send by the May 21 drone strike which killed Afghan Taliban chief Mullah Mansour, the adviser said US authorities could not explain as to what objective they achieved by the act as "their domestic electoral politics had a part in it".

"Our idea is that it's ultimate effect will be negative, both for the bilateral relations and the Afghan peace dialogue on the whole," Aziz added.

India's NSG bid

India's membership of the NSG is "not merited until the country meets the group's standards", a New York Times (NYT) editorial said earlier in June.

The group's membership has signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty but India has refused to do so, which means "it has not accepted legally binding commitments to pursue disarmament negotiations, halt the production of fissile material for nuclear weapons and not test nuclear weapons".

A key US Senator, Ed Markey, had also warned that enabling India to join the NSG would cause a “never-ending” nuclear race in South Asia.

Pakistan's application is likely to lead to a showdown in the group which has also been facing calls to induct India as a member.

US President Barack Obama announced Tuesday that his country is backing India’s bid to join the club. China could also insist, as a condition of India's membership, that Pakistan also be allowed to join.

The NSG, which was created in response to India's first nuclear test in 1974, is expected to hold its next meeting in June.

The NSG is a 48-nation club dedicated to curbing nuclear arms proliferation by controlling the export and re-transfer of materials that could foster nuclear weapons development.

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Sr Jun 12, 2016 11:22pm

In coming years and decades Pakistan will find it too difficult if tries to get parity. Try get parity in trade, education, space research etc

GAK Wazir Jun 12, 2016 11:25pm

Pakistan must take its close allies on board for any diplomatic effort to block admission of its rival foe, India to NSG. WE need to change our priorities with regard to finding new close allies instead of US as the latter can't be our sincere friend any longer. However, we also need to intensify our diplomatic efforts to maintain balance in our relations with all regional states.

Naveed Jun 12, 2016 11:28pm

Good strategy by Pakistan.

Mayank Jun 12, 2016 11:36pm

Every country has the right to apply for NSG membership on their respective merit and should be compared or influenced by what other countries are doing. India has an urgent need for civil nuclear power to meet its growing power demands. This is the sole purpose of its NSG membership and not because we want our neighbor to isolate. Pakistan is bitten by a fear that doesn't even exist.

Mayank Jun 12, 2016 11:38pm

@GAK Wazir why do you want your problems to be solved by others. Try to become stable and independent economy and everyone will respect your opinion. It's simple as that.

Shaheem Jun 13, 2016 12:21am

Yeah sure!

TK Jun 13, 2016 12:29am

Now that your relations with US is not good, suddenly US is focusing on containing islamic world? Then as a protest don't take any aid from them and don't ask them to give you any weapons either.

FUTURE_LIES_WITH_INDIA Jun 13, 2016 12:35am

Even if NSG membership is postponed for few more meetings then also there is nothing we are losing completely. India is already doing nuclear business as usual with other NSG members due to the India specific exemptions.

So, NSG membership is nothing more than a matter of Pride for Indians just like UNSC membership.

On the other hand, Pakistan diplomacy played all their cards and invested too much just to block Indian entry into NSG which eventually would be offered.

In fact, we want a strong opposition from China this time on this NSG membership issue so that Pakistan will be indebted towards their all weather friend China who in turn will get more support to pump in more loans into Pakistan and eventually will destroy all Pakistanis local Industries in long term. A dependent Pakistan will be much easier to deal with. World will start dealing directly with China instead of Pakistani leadership, which itself will also be more result-oriented than to deal with Pakistan today.

Anon Jun 13, 2016 12:50am

Sir, Forget India ....even Bangladesh is leaving pak behind..... Bangladesh in economically way ahead of Pakistan.... as Bangladesh's forex reserves, growth rate and exports are much higher than Pak's forex reserves, growth rate and exports

Indian Jun 13, 2016 01:02am

If Pakistan's case is stronger it would be better if it puts its efforts in getting NSG membership, so far it has concentrated all its energies in opposing Indian membership.

Mullah Bob Jun 13, 2016 01:07am

Actions are much stronger than words Mr.Aziz.

VV Jun 13, 2016 01:14am

Yeah Pakistan's proliferation credentials (by AQ Khan) is stronger than India's.

S.R. Jun 13, 2016 01:27am

Please someone explain to me how Mr. Aziz can claim equality with India for NSG when Pakistan failed one of the main criteria for membership - proliferation of nuclear weapon technology to other countries? India does not have any such record.

modifan Jun 13, 2016 01:40am

India is entering into NSG next week...mark my words..even china have softened its voice..long live india,long live modi

Average Joe Jun 13, 2016 01:46am

"India joining the NSG"... Does it really matter? Instead, we should be focusing our attention to relatively bigger problems than this- internal issues.

Abhi Jun 13, 2016 02:08am

No body in this world can stop India's entry into NSG and to become a super power in the world

Zak Jun 13, 2016 02:27am

@Mayank ask yourself why NSG was set up in 1974, and you will have the answer.

Zak Jun 13, 2016 03:03am

The world knows Pakistans credentials are far better than India in everything, but US paranoia about China is making them drop all their principles and break rules to help a compulsive violator of every agreement it has signed, into organisations it should never be allowed into. US is losing it and China is holding it togather.

Mulla Jun 13, 2016 03:38am

@GAK Wazir Can you count five respected Pakistani allies?

Ibrahim Kabuli Jun 13, 2016 04:22am

If that's how it is then Afghanistan economy is 100x better than the U.SA.

miristan Jun 13, 2016 04:56am

At least some one spoke.

O Hanif Jun 13, 2016 05:03am

Every thing make sense but there is no justice any where, to win this you need to be extra smart and strong internally with economy and politically. We are doing injustice to our own people, look what happens in local bodies election, election are done long time in Sindh and Punjab but no governments, this shows we are not interested in becoming a civilized society and why we are doing that because our civilians and military do not want to accept the people mandate. Why you think other more powerful will listen to you :). You can give as many interviews as you like no one will listen to you until you treat your own people with merit and fix internal problems.

pR Jun 13, 2016 05:13am

I don't think so.

Others Jun 13, 2016 05:54am

Pakistan is a proclaimed Nuclear proliferator. Asking parity with India to NSG membership doesn't stand ground and all members know it. As far as NPT membership being pre-requisite is not valid either, there is precedence in France which got into NSG without NPT membership.

Haris Jun 13, 2016 06:50am

OK. Like the world doesn't know the truth...

Kabul Khan Jun 13, 2016 06:52am

NSG was created specifically after India betrayed the international community and conducted the nuclear tests in 1974. That by itself is the biggest negative point for India. As for diplomatic efforts, glad to see that both Russia and China are supporting Pakistan.

Rehman Jun 13, 2016 07:15am

We have much better credentials. We should be allowed into NSG first.

Nabarun Dey Jun 13, 2016 07:16am

Why Pakistan did not get the civil nuclear deal through in its favor?

Madhan Jun 13, 2016 07:23am

Anyone can claim anything...that is for others to feel and tell. Is it not so?

Desi Bhai Jun 13, 2016 07:49am

Pakistan has stronger credentials for NSG membership on what basis? Just because you say so?

Vishal Jun 13, 2016 08:19am

Keep saying it and maybe you'll actually believe it.

whats in a name Jun 13, 2016 09:12am

"Pakistan's credentials stronger than India for NSG membership" - OK. Please get support of at least 10 out of 48 countries in NSG and you will get to know the reality.

Rohit Singh Jun 13, 2016 09:51am

India is trying for NSG membership for years. Pakistan just applied,nobody is saying you shouldn't get it but the narrative that if India gets it we should too. Build your own case independent of any country and you will have more visibility

MIttha Khan Jun 13, 2016 10:24am

@MAYANK , why is it that we should not have access to the same nuclear access for our energy needs which are as important and imminent as that of Indias,

Brahmos Jun 13, 2016 10:24am

I just want to say that India has been the most important part of the world economy in the recent times. And what about Papistan

Anonymous Jun 13, 2016 10:26am

India's bid will be stopped by China this time but US will find another way to give all the benfits of the membership to India.We already enjoy most of them because of the 2008 deal and since India doesn't gain entry guess what Pakistan will also be barred

Jawad Jun 13, 2016 10:31am

@SR You simply wrote volumes in this sentence. Love it.

Rohit Singh Jun 13, 2016 11:29am

This will be interesting if India gets into NSG and has s a say in Pakistan application for NSG.

Vikas Jun 13, 2016 12:42pm

@Sr well said SR I already see 320 recommendations. You are absolutely right. The time Pakistan used to seek parity with India is over. India is now miles and miles away. Pakistan has to accept this that India and Pakistan are actually not equals any more. And if it does not it shall only be harming its interest. Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a sure recipe for financial downfall.

Inayat Jun 13, 2016 01:06pm

Why did not you apply if before India, if Pakistan's credentials are better ?

Insaf Jun 13, 2016 01:12pm

I have been observing Mr. Aziz's statements since long. It seems he tries to impress Pakistani citizens. not effective out in world

BRILLIANT LOGIC Jun 13, 2016 02:04pm

Dr.AQ Khan will agree.

Roger Jun 13, 2016 02:04pm

@Kabul Khan The world can never justify Nuclear weapons. Anybody isolating anybody else just for that does not make any sense. India already enjoys privileges similar to the group, even without being part of it. This whole drama is for things entirely different.

Mohammad S. Khalid Jun 13, 2016 02:04pm

@Sr

No difficulty for Pakistan. It is India who will face great difficulties in maintaining parity with China.

Raj Jun 13, 2016 02:11pm

Self certification and self patting and self praise is always bad. Any praise or certifications should come from others.

Khan USA Jun 13, 2016 02:12pm

@Rohit Singh Dont worry , it will never happen. India never had and will never have any say in anything about Pakistan !

Mohammad S. Khalid Jun 13, 2016 02:13pm

@VV

It is India who contaminated Subcontinent with nuke desease.

Raj Jun 13, 2016 02:13pm

It would be better for Pakistan to spend its energy in convincing the world to allow it to enter into NSG rather spending on blocking india. It is like the age old proverb that even if i loose two eyes the opponent should atleast lost one eye. Is it valid?

Mohammad S. Khalid Jun 13, 2016 02:17pm

@Others

Precedence of France may be equally applicable to India, Israel, and Pakistan.

Mohammad S. Khalid Jun 13, 2016 02:21pm

@Brahmos

Highest number of Population living below poverty line is living in India.

Sri1 Jun 13, 2016 02:24pm

@Naveed "Good strategy by Pakistan" Negative tactics may win or help in cease-firing in some battles. But positive intent and strategies alone win wars. Wait and watch before June end.

Vishal Jun 13, 2016 02:30pm

You can't even fix the problem of Civil leadership v/s Military leadership in Pakistan and talking high on credibility !

Vishal Jun 13, 2016 02:31pm

Pakistan always follow India. No idea when this sick mentality will fade

Sunil Jun 13, 2016 02:32pm

@Sri1 Sartaz Aziz forgot AQ Khan.

INDIAN LOVE Jun 13, 2016 02:40pm

According to recent updates only turkey and China left to gain support for NSG membership. Pm Modi confirmed that he will meet Russian & Chinese president in the sideline of SCO summit in Tashkent to gain india support for NSG during plenary meeting at 24 June .

chan Jun 13, 2016 02:51pm

@Mohammad S. Khalid Highest number of middle class which has a dollar 8 trillion purchasing power is also India. India is a biggest market place presently. Moreover We have more muslim then you.

Sr Jun 13, 2016 02:55pm

@Mohammad S. Khalid precedent for Pakistan will mot be applicable to Pakistan due to extensive proliferation network conducted by AQ Khan

Anuj Jun 13, 2016 03:05pm

Self boasting, chest thumping as always.

Anuj Jun 13, 2016 03:08pm

@Rehman dream on.

Anony Jun 13, 2016 03:09pm

Mr. Aziz - have you forgotten AQK network or conveniently assumed that world has forgotten about him? FYI - AQK is the biggest hyphen between the credibility of the 2 states.

Anuj Jun 13, 2016 03:08pm

@Mohammad S. Khalid but we don't depend on loans and borrowings.

Anuj Jun 13, 2016 03:09pm

@Mohammad S. Khalid dream on about NSG.

Anuj Jun 13, 2016 03:11pm

@Rehman keep saying that cause no one else believe in your self patting.

senthil Jun 13, 2016 03:13pm

Then why did you wait for india to apply first?

Zak Jun 13, 2016 03:14pm

@Mulla not 5 but 47 because it's minus US. The others who support india, support pakistan as well. So get your facts right. 5 oppose India and only US opposes Pakistan, our most 'ally of allies'. Some "ally".

Tony Singh Jun 13, 2016 03:21pm

"Pakistan's credentials stronger than India for NSG membership"

Definitely. North Koreans second it

Manju Jun 13, 2016 03:26pm

Apart from China, Pakistan definitely has support from Libya, North Korea and Iran... Folk who totally know that Pakistan didn't propagate anything!

Sunny Jun 13, 2016 03:33pm

Nobody trust.

arif kaderbhoy Jun 13, 2016 03:34pm

Don't understand why we need to compare ourselves with India in everything. Its we who have a complex..why can we just let go...will our mindsets ever change? Doubt it!!

KKumar Jun 13, 2016 04:24pm

@Zak Great. Why worry about India. If Pakistan has credentials to join NSG, good luck to them. India is not spending any effort to stop Pakistan.

Harmony-1© Jun 13, 2016 04:38pm

As Latha Jishnu revealed in her article today about NSG “both India and Pakistan are chasing a mirage”.

Tamil Guru Jun 13, 2016 04:50pm

NSG admission is just a formality for India. A strong Indian diplomacy has already convinced countries like Australia and New Zealand to supply Uranium etc.

Tamil Guru Jun 13, 2016 04:57pm

MR Aziz says he telephoned 3 countries Russia, New Zealand and South Korea for support. He needs to make another 45 telephone calls.

Indian Jun 13, 2016 05:54pm

Russia supports to each and every thing for India unconditional for even India's inclusion in UN security council, Russia is India's Friend forever.

Ali Jun 13, 2016 07:07pm

Adviser on Foreign Affairs Sartaz Aziz is right that Pakistan has stronger credentials than India for NSG membership, but weaker diplomacy. India defied the world by reneging on its solemn commitment of "not" developing nuclear weapons?

PM Nawaz Sharif's foreign policy is non existent. He suffers from decision making paralysis. He "failed" to appoint a full-time Foreign Minister for last 3 years which is harming our national interest. If he has serious health issues he must step down.

Na Ji Na Jun 13, 2016 07:51pm

@MIttha Khan did you read or hear India opposing Pakistan's bid to NSG? India is trying to get itself in, whereas Pakistan is trying to oppose whatever India does.

Mady Jun 13, 2016 08:48pm

@Zak If India's record on non-proliferation was poor then you be sure majority of NSG members would not have supported India's case. Even China is not opposing India, whose main-argument is India needs to sign NPT before membership.

Mohammad Khan USA Jun 14, 2016 06:53am

Mr.Sartaj Azis every credential of Pakistan is strong only the Foreign Ministry is week,its diplomatic relations have proved that Pakistan has no space in the diplomatic world thanks for the Foreign Ministry

khan Jun 14, 2016 08:31am

If our credentials are stronger then why wait till India applies? Why should we not apply by ourselves?

Jamil Ahmed Jun 14, 2016 10:11am

@Mayank Why India is counting on USA to become a counter to China and gain membership of NSG?

gary Jun 14, 2016 10:37am

@Harmony-1© She is as beautiful as her article.

Rohit Singh Jun 14, 2016 12:11pm

@Khan USA "@Rohit Singh Dont worry , it will never happen. India never had and will never have any say in anything about Pakistan !"

Oh really forgot the F16 deal??

Sumit Choudhary Jun 14, 2016 12:15pm

One needs to have capacity to manufacture nuclear technology products to be member of NSG . What does pakistan make or supply ? Virtually nothing . Pakistan haven't made a single reactor or even a part of reactor . How come pakistan think of being part of NSG

Random Jun 14, 2016 12:20pm

There is no doubt Pakistan will get NSG membership much before India. China will prioritize and ensure Pakistan's membership very soon.

Naveed Jun 14, 2016 01:04pm

@Sri1 I think this is the same strategy that India uses, isn't it? We need to stay connected to India on this issue and should use full effort to be treated same as India. There is nothing negative in this approach, it is a window of opportunity of Pakistan to be treated equally as India.

Jay Jun 14, 2016 01:09pm

@Zak-- India has come a long way from why NSG was set up.. Things dont stay permanent, they move, so has India. When will pakistan move forward ?

Surya Kant Jun 14, 2016 03:31pm

Wish you good luck for your NSG membership as you are quite convinced about your credential being better than India.

Purush Jun 14, 2016 04:32pm

Pakistan is welcome to pursue their membership of NSG. If they felt they had a stronger case then why were they waiting for application from India before moving their own application. They should now go with the spirit that they (Pakistan) should get NSG membership regardless of whether India gets it or not.

UD Jun 14, 2016 04:47pm

Then why the world does not support you?

Amir Indian Jun 14, 2016 07:37pm

PM Modi is still in conversation with Russia, China, S. Africa, Austria, S.Korea - so wait n watch

Kamaal Jun 14, 2016 09:38pm

Pakistan urgently needs a full time and young minister in this position.

anon Jun 14, 2016 11:58pm

@Zak hahahaha right!