Afghanistan, India inaugurate Friendship Dam
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Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi have inaugurated a multi-million-dollar dam in western Afghanistan that will bring power and irrigation to vast tracts of the war-torn country.
The Afghan-India Friendship Dam in Herat province, which borders Iran, was built with Indian aid at a cost of $300 million and was under construction for about a decade, the latest symbol of Indian investment in its South Asian neighbour.
The dam, originally built in western Herat province in 1976 before being damaged during the civil wars of the 1990s, was rebuilt by some 1,500 Indian and Afghan engineers, according to the Indian Ministry of External Affairs.
"It is symbol of our friendship and would usher in hope, light up homes, nourish the fertile fields of Heart and bring prosperity to the people of the region," Modi said in a social media post as he departed for Afghanistan, the first stop on a five-country trip.
Read: India wants to deny Pakistan strategic depth in Afghanistan: US report
Modi arrived in Afghanistan Saturday for the formal inauguration of the project. At more than 100 metres (330 feet) high and 540 metres (1,770 feet) wide, the dam is designed to generate 42 megawatts of power and help irrigate 75,000 hectares of land, according to Modi.
Ghani hailed the dam as a symbol of bilateral ties with India. Afghanistan has cultivated closer ties with India in recent years as a balance to neighboring Pakistan, which has been accused of supporting the Taliban insurgency.
Afghanistan has walked a fine line as it accepts Indian aid, with Pakistan historically wary of any Indian influence in Afghanistan.
"Salma Dam is another big step in deepening and broadening the relationship between Afghanistan and India," Ghani said in a post on Twitter.
India has poured more than $1 billion into Afghanistan reconstruction projects and humanitarian aid, making it one of the largest donors to the war-torn country.
A new national assembly building in Kabul and major power line and road construction have been among the main projects funded by India.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:35pm
The Soviets built a lot more than this for the Afghans. The Afghans werent too grateful were they? Remember the Afghan-Soviet war? The West has built a lot of stuff too. The Afghans are in the process of fighting them too. Pakistan has hosted millions of Afghans for decades. The Afghans arent too grateful for that either. The Iranians have helped the Afghans too and guess what? The Afghans forget that too. Now tell me,how will the Afghan repay India?
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Jun 04, 2016 03:39pm
All the best for the people if Herat and kudos to all the engineers who worked on the dam.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:41pm
India should build more power and irrigation dams on Eastern Afghanistan rivers.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:42pm
afghans are good people
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Jun 04, 2016 03:42pm
Honestly that's how all south Asian countries should have relation with each other ! I'm so happy for war ravaged Afghanistan is seeing some development at last thanks to India n PM Modi !
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Jun 04, 2016 03:46pm
Smart investment by india ...strategic depth won in hearts not on land ..
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Jun 04, 2016 03:47pm
Outstanding work by Mr. Modi.
I'm sure nothing can stop India becoming one of the most powerful nations under his visionary leadership.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:48pm
India should strive to build similar relationships with other neighboring countries also, including Pakistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:49pm
Peaceful and progressive ventures
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Jun 04, 2016 03:58pm
God bless India and Afghanistan friendship... All Indians are behind Afghanistan buildup
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Jun 04, 2016 03:59pm
@Desi Bhai India keen to keep good relation with all the neighboring country but clap needs two hands brother.
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Jun 04, 2016 03:59pm
For those who are unaware of it, or about to lament absence of Pakistan on the Afghan scene, we are providing Afghanistan USD500 million, for health, education, communication and other infrastructure development.
The dam discussed here is due to generate around 42 MW of power. It should be noted that we are due to help them for a 1500MW hydro power project on one the tributaries of Kabul river.
For Pakistan, it is very important to keep this border secure, while protecting our interests.
One of the major problems for us is the harassment of our engineers working on development projects in Afghanistan, by the Afghan officials. This matter needs attention of GoP.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:01pm
Pakistan, which has been accused of supporting the Taliban insurgency? What a naivety!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:01pm
more than seeing this as a strategic move, i am happy at seeing this frienship move from india towards another one of our brothers, the afghans.. good job pm modi.. this is how south asian countries must self support each other and grow up.. feeling proud...!!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:01pm
@Mohammed maybe we don't want repayment
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Jun 04, 2016 04:01pm
well done India. helping poor nation
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Jun 04, 2016 04:03pm
well done india my beloved nation be a role model for other nations
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Jun 04, 2016 04:03pm
Well done modi sir... Now a day you can only win the people by winning their hearts ....
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Jun 04, 2016 04:04pm
Imagine if all south asian neighbours have the same relations ,Picture of South Asia would have been different .
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Jun 04, 2016 04:04pm
Afghani needs money no matter it comes from US or India and for Pakistan they are already earning a lot through their afghan refugees, they worship money...
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Jun 04, 2016 04:04pm
Congratulations to Indians and Afghans, Thank you Modi!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:04pm
@mohhamad the Soviets were an occupying foreign force ..India is not ..there is a vast difference and the Afghans respect this.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:06pm
@Mohammed you nailed it. As one Russian general once said afghans will tell you on your face. You are the greatest person on the planet and once you turn around they will shoot you in head.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:06pm
First of all Happy Ramadan to Afghan, Pakistan and all the Muslims brothers...
Now coming to topic, Afghanistan needs all the help whether from India or elsewhere. A non-functional Afghanistan is more problem for Pakistan but the ISI has some other plans. Afghans see India as a friend for a proper reason...we never tried to control them and even opposed the Britishers who went to conquer Afghans twice during colonial era.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:07pm
Thank you India
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Jun 04, 2016 04:09pm
Why doesn't Pakistan build dams, roads, ports etc in Afghanistan. Please answer!!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:10pm
@Suraj: Sir, before going overboard with Mr Modi's greatness, please also read the line that says that most of the project was conceptualized and executed before his term. Mr Modi is essentially cutting the ribbon here.
The Afghan-India Friendship Dam in Herat province, which borders Iran, was built with Indian aid at a cost of $300 million and was under construction for about a decade
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Jun 04, 2016 04:10pm
Right time to rename symbol of 'steadfast friendship' CPEC as CSEC (China South China Economic Cooperation).
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Jun 04, 2016 04:11pm
we want to win the heart of Afghanistan not to rule them.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:11pm
@Mohammed
nobody in India expects Afghanistan to pay back. It is a gift from India to Afghans. Unlike the countries you mentioned which were cheated by Afghans, India does not have anything but good intentions. We do not want to profit from their miseries.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:14pm
Great move! Congrats India
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Jun 04, 2016 04:15pm
@Mohammed One can say the same thing about Pakistan
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Jun 04, 2016 04:17pm
No problem. Our experience from our generosity to Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation era shows that the Afghan leadership (not the ordinary Afghan people, whom I respect deeply) has fragmented loyalties
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Jun 04, 2016 04:17pm
Dam is designed to generate 42 megawatts of power and help irrigate 75,000 hectares of land .
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Jun 04, 2016 04:19pm
@Mohammed Its not about repayment, these are helps from a neighboring contry
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Jun 04, 2016 04:19pm
@raw is war
They are smart enough will never allow you to get any profit from them...forget about it if Pakistan could never get any benefit from them you will never either.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:21pm
@India the super power: There are two kinds of pride, both good and bad. 'Good pride' represents our dignity and self-respect. 'Bad pride' is the deadly sin of superiority that reeks of conceit and arrogance. - John C. Maxwell
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Jun 04, 2016 04:22pm
@Lafanga can't believe you don't see a conspiracy in this :-)
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Jun 04, 2016 04:25pm
When we say 'constructive relations'.....This is what we mean....Build stuff to enrich the lives of fellow man........Good job India.....and Afghanistan I hope treasures this in the long run and protect it like its their own.....
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Jun 04, 2016 04:25pm
@Adit - What about 'interest' if not "repayment"?
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Jun 04, 2016 04:25pm
@SHIRAZ
The money would be well spent within Pakistan dear.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:27pm
@Sri - Some can never resist negativity even in the thick of positivity!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:27pm
@M.Saeed
If you knew the truth, you would refrain from such comments. The truth about managing the Taliban is similar to East Pakistan handling in 1971. The masses are given a story for internal consumption.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:29pm
@Mohammed Afgahans are innocent people : we , indians love Afghan people and our great story oj Kabuliwala: We now share their pain
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Jun 04, 2016 04:31pm
@Harmony-1© "There are two kinds of pride, both good and bad. 'Good pride' represents our dignity and self-respect. 'Bad pride' is the deadly sin of superiority that reeks of conceit and arrogance. - John C. Maxwell"
This exactly what you guys believe in, considering the want for a separate nation because you thought you were superior to us - "BAD PRIDE".
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Jun 04, 2016 04:33pm
@SHIRAZ
For those who are unaware of it, or about to lament absence of Pakistan on the Afghan scene, we are providing Afghanistan USD500 million, for health, education, communication and other infrastructure development.
If Pakistan can spend $500 Million for Afghanistan why did it ask US tax payers to fund it's F-16 purchases? Stop living in a make believe world?
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Jun 04, 2016 04:36pm
@Anis ; In reply to your query , When close to two million Afghans go back to their country. Pakistan has been a host to them since 1979, yes! 37 years. We have sliced our bread, we have stayed hungry but fed them. Our cities are infested with their crimes. Our borders, airports, sea ports are being used to smuggle their goods and narcotics. Our transportation system has been destroyed by them and our citizens are being killed every day by their incompetent drivers. Do you care for more reasons ?
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Jun 04, 2016 04:42pm
@atheist Modi has nothing to do with this. India has a long history of support to Afghans, its not a Modi phenomenon. I'm afraid all of Modi's good work will always remain suspicious because of your kind of sycophancy and hero worship. The man is working hard, let him prove himself in due time.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:45pm
@Suraj Modi was there just to inaugurate the dam... he did not initiate the project...
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Jun 04, 2016 04:45pm
@Omar that's perfect
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Jun 04, 2016 04:46pm
@Mohammed Its AID, not LOAN.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:49pm
Well thought investment by India.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:53pm
Thank you India. We wish our friendship goes stronger everyday. Love from Afghanistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:53pm
@Javed Nops. It will not be. The AGPR is keeping a good eye on it. AGPR is one of the few good and honest institutions in this country.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:54pm
Why can't India do the same for Pakistan.
Thete should be Afghan- Pakistan- India Economic corridor.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:55pm
KP & FATA are actually Afghan people. Why are Pakistanis so bent upon having a fundamentalist Government in Kabul owing alligiance to Pakistan?? That will never happen. Strategic depth is a mirage. Beware, in search of strategic depth, Pakistan might lose even the existing depth.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:55pm
@Anis Because Pakistan needs to build them in its own country first.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:57pm
Now be a good friend and take all the afghan refugees to India. They deserve a better life than they are having in Pakistan as Their own country will take a little time to offer a decent time .
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Jun 04, 2016 04:58pm
@Calm - So you are an authority in brandishing us what we "guys believe in"!!! That claim in itself reeks of "bad pride"!
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Jun 04, 2016 04:58pm
@adit "maybe we don't want repayment".. That's a joke, right?
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Jun 04, 2016 04:58pm
PM Modi awarded Afghanistan's top civilian honour.
was today conferred with Amir Amanullah Khan Award, the country's highest civilian honour.
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Jun 04, 2016 04:58pm
@Javed Pakistan didn't. The FMS is a feature where the major non-NATO allies can ask the US to subsidise the defence equipment purchases. Pakistan requested US to use the FMS but they declined due to the opposition in their legislative houses.
By the way, in my view, this hue and cry regarding the F-16s is a Modi phenomena. Once he has left, its a matter of few months before you may have not just 8 but another 18 F-16s Blk-52 to complete the wing. The Dallas-Fort Worth area house representatives are not sitting idle. More F-16 implies more jobs for people in their area, which they can exploit later on to win another term at the house.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:00pm
Here we go... another milestone.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:00pm
It is mind boggling that India is donating huge sums to other country's ,but itself is the biggest USAID recipient ?
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Jun 04, 2016 05:01pm
@Mohammed Quality matters
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Jun 04, 2016 05:05pm
@M.Sethi .... GIVE ME LIST OF AID RECEIVED INDIA FROM USAID :)
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Jun 04, 2016 05:06pm
Great going for Afganistan , lot of free stuff coming their way while we have droughts affecting our crops but Afganistan won't be the same story now , they will get rich sooner then us with our money, but it's a solace at least that somone is happy using our money ,
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Jun 04, 2016 05:06pm
Modi you will never succeed to block Pakistan's water, play your game and nature will play its game.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:07pm
India is very keen in developing good and friendly relations with Afghanistan. We would appreciate if she could take the Pakistan based Afghan refugees to India, such a move will greatly improve these relations further.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:09pm
Afghanis Bite the Hand (Pakistan) that feeds them.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:11pm
@M.Sethi - Just for your update Govt of India is not a direct recipient of USAID instead some NGOS in India are the recipient of USAID.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:11pm
@Anis because we've realized that they do not deserve it. We give millions of their people a home in our country when the soviets came and now they repay us by insulting, threatening and trying to defame our country.
They regularly refuse to accept the Durand Line and claim a large part of our land belongs to them. They regularly let people illegally immigrate into our country and they regularly accuse us of sending terrorists to their country.
The only thing Pakistan should do is warn India not to waste their time on the Afghans or they'll receive the same treatment from the Afghans
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Jun 04, 2016 05:11pm
one should also know that our beloved pm modi is honoured by highest civilian award of afghanistan.long live indo-afghan friendship.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:13pm
This is excellent example of cooperation, progress, growth between two south asian countries. All south asian countries can work together and make growth in each area beneficial to their countries people. Recent development shows it is happening between all countries except Pakistan. Pakistan should not relying on China which is not always good for any country as it creates dependency and that country can take extra advantage of it. So this is right time to think Pakistan and instead of remain passive they should work togather with other south asian countries including India.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:13pm
@SHIRAZ
So you say we can't built power plants for us but are building them for the Afghans?
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Jun 04, 2016 05:14pm
@Chandler : "Quality matters". Should you really must brag on that then don't forget collapses like that:
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/kolkata-several-dead-under-construction-bridge-collapses-672819
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Jun 04, 2016 05:14pm
@Anis because they have no money !!!
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Jun 04, 2016 05:20pm
@Zee Good question. That is the need of the hour. Just Imagine a super highway from Dhaka to Kabul and to Tehran.
Imagine a superfast bullett train taking you along the route in 15 hrs (Chinese/Japanese trains can do 200Kms per hr, quite easily). Yes it will cost billions, but that money will give a huge boost to the local economies and business.
Just imagine a future where people, goods, services move freely around these neighbors. Yes, it seems improbably, though not impossible. But, let us at least dare to dream.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:22pm
@Tariq Rashid Profit you used or say exploit them before 9/11 ..Taliban with whom you are fighting were famously known by gen mushraff 'strategic asserts' ....time changed....and you were forced to go against them...
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Jun 04, 2016 05:23pm
@Suraj The report say the dam was being built for 10 years. Modi came to power 2 years back.
Afghans are lucky that Engineers working on the dam didn't have mathematical skills like you
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Jun 04, 2016 05:23pm
India is investing in development, infrastructure, education, health in Afganistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:28pm
Afghans believe Indians more than they believe Pakistanis. Though Pakistani investments on Afghani people is much greater...but there is equal amount of damage done by Pakistan because of politics with Taliban.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:30pm
Two Islamic countries Afganistan and Saudi Arabia have awarded Modi with highest civilian award.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:32pm
God bless India-Afganistan friendship
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Jun 04, 2016 05:33pm
@Harmony-1© The news is about a dam which is a reality existing on the ground. Stop going after readers in a cynical way and distributing unwarranted wisdom and diverting from the topic.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:35pm
Happy to see their friendship growing.Good steps Modi Sarkar.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:35pm
@M.Sethi That's a breaking news for even USA.Please educate us from which source you got this news.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:36pm
We are hearing about Dams in Afghanistan,India,but I wonder,I am so sad,where is my Kakabagh Dam?
Obviously the narrow minded politicians,and the loose cannons amongst senior ranks of our ruling elite is to blame.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:37pm
@Harmony-1© one of incidence but look around and then comment
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Jun 04, 2016 05:37pm
@Amit Sharma - Due to blind 'Modi love' even a factual observation hurts even when it comes from your own guy - @Suraj
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Jun 04, 2016 05:38pm
Let me hope that a day will come when India Pakistan will do the same for each other.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:41pm
@Rohit - Talk about "cynicism" when you are not. Don't preach what you don't practice!
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Jun 04, 2016 05:42pm
India is building Dams in Afghanistan, India is building port Chabahar in Iran and Iran is also engaged in reconstruction projects in Afghanistan.This seems to be a triangular economic linkage aimed at evolving a trilateral strategic regional partnership. What are its implications for Pakistan? The emerging new equation may increase the three countries' politico economic influence in the region limiting space for Pakistan to maneuver and further its economic and trade interests. To strike balance, completion of CPEC should be expedited, two new border openings with Iran should become functional quickly to enhance trade with that country and IP gas pipeline project should be completed without further delay. Improvement of ties with Afghanistan is equally important to check Indian influence in that country. Our policy makers and strategists have some homework to do.
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Jun 04, 2016 05:42pm
Will be wasted when the Taliban come to power
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Jun 04, 2016 05:50pm
@Rohit I second you on this. This dude makes totally un-warranted comments.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:00pm
'My dear friend Narendra Modi, welcome to your second home' says Ashraf Ghani. Wow check out the personal relation between the two. Modi even got the highest civilian award.
Saudi, Iran and now Afghanistan. Three Islamic Republics!
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Jun 04, 2016 06:02pm
India-Afghanistan friendship is higher than Himalayas and sweeter than honey !!!
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Jun 04, 2016 06:02pm
@Mohammed : But it doesn't mean that we should stop helping the Afghan people who are really in need of help. Let's think positive and hope that one day Afghanistan will be self reliance and prosperous.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:08pm
Hope afghan respect indians for what they have done for the country.. track record is a bit dodgy.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:11pm
Who are the other recipients of the Amir Amanullah Khan Award, I am sure there must be some Pakistanis too ?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:12pm
@Muhammad Waqas , "Modi you will never succeed to block Pakistan's water, play your game and nature will play its game."
Dear, the dam is in western Afghanistan. You are urgently in need of class 3 Geography book.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:12pm
@Calm - Truly prejudiced would never be able to differentiate the cynicism from the one who thinks he is already '@India the super power' looking down on "poor Afghanistan" or whether my response was "un-warranted"?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:13pm
@arunkum1 This time 'Students' and educated people come from Schools, colleges and Universities will come into power.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:14pm
India and Afghanistan have nothing common except their enemity for Pakistan ! The religion , the language , the culture and the history nothing common . All the invaders to India came from Afghanistan .
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Jun 04, 2016 06:14pm
Pakistan has done more for the Afghans then anyone else by hosting more then 3000000 registered refugees and God nows how many unregistered ones.
We allowed them to work, open businesses and roam freely all over the country but as far as I can tell they are an ungrateful people and we are now being repaid by them with bombs and sabotage.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:17pm
@Indian: "@Mohammed : But it doesn't mean that we should stop helping the Afghan people who are really in need of help. Let's think positive and hope that one day Afghanistan will be self reliance and prosperous."
Wouldn't it be nice to see such sane comments than usual bragging, arrogance and 'mine is better than yours' nonsense?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:17pm
No strategic depth but only good-will is the motive of India's help to Afghanistan. Afghan people fully realise that who is their real friend working selflessly for the development of Afghanistan. Long live Indo-Afghan friendship.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:27pm
@SHIRAZ ; Mention final achievement & feel batter.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:27pm
@Mohammed , It is not for repayment; Friendship is beyond that. It is sincerity, that counts in friendship. May be that is why, the bond is becoming stronger by the day.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:28pm
Look at India building strategic and economic relations with Saudi Arabia, Iran, UAE, Qatar, Afghanistan, Kuwait etc. And then look at us, after three years of PMNL rule where do we stand? CPEC will bring in change but have we again made the mistake of keeping all our eggs in one basket?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:31pm
Thanks to our localised less brained parties it's a crime building DAMS, while neighbouring countries goes ahead
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Jun 04, 2016 06:34pm
.....this is an idea which must be tempting for our government too...may be india should build a dam or two here ..or how about Afghans? surely they should help us build a dam..but my feeling is NS will go to China & ask to build dams across the CPEC to strengthen the infrastructure... way to go NS
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Jun 04, 2016 06:34pm
@Mohammed They all were selfish. Afghan are Most self respecting and Loyal Friends
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Jun 04, 2016 06:34pm
Wonder Why India is spending all this money into Afghanistan & what it expects in return from Afghanistan?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:34pm
Strategic tactics that comes with to much to give back to India
No one has spend or invest more then USA but look nothing can be done as
The institutional corruption don't let any thing to work or make trust .
A peaceful prosperous economy need investments for business purpose
not grants and that too on high costs unfortunately
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Jun 04, 2016 06:35pm
Is there any Specific reason for Indian Friendship with Afghanistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:35pm
1/3 of Indian population has no access to clean water but Modi is showering Afghanistan with freebeies and investing heavy in Iran?
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Jun 04, 2016 06:39pm
Woww no Electricity in their own country in some villages and building DAM in Afghanistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:39pm
If I was the prime minister of Pakistan, would have joined this party to add some flavor. If Afghanistan is not grateful to Pakistan for hosting millions of Afghan refugees for 4 decades, they will never be grateful to India (or anyone).
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Jun 04, 2016 06:45pm
great to see such development project benefit the local hard working people need many more such projects to help the economy and make afghans self sufficient.
And who cares who or which country is building and re-building effort it all is to good cause to help poor of Afghanistan to eventually become self sufficient!
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Jun 04, 2016 06:45pm
Dear Pakistani friends,
All the actions does not need financial pay back. It is just see Afghan brothers live peace & prosperous....
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Jun 04, 2016 06:48pm
If it wasn't for help from Pakistan, Afghanistan would have been a Russian province now but that is a separate matter. Let's not forget 4 million refugees staying in Pakistan and refusing to go back to Afghanistan.
The problem in Afghanistan is that it is divided on ethnic lines. There are 40% Pashtuns who are more or less aligned with Pakistan. There are a mix of Persian speaking Hazaras, Uzbeks and Tajiks who are aligned with Iran or India. Even within these factions there are sub factions who prefer a tribal culture without being aligned with anyone. Pakistan understands Afghans better than Afghans themselves because of historical and cultural links. India can build another 10 dams to buy a faction of Afghans but it will still not be able to understand and solve the deep Afghan tribal mindset.
Pakistan just needs to be proactive in dealing with the Afghans. Deep inside even Afghans know there future lies in better relations with Pakistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:51pm
@Anis pakistan given shelter to 3000000 to afghaanian
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Jun 04, 2016 06:56pm
The way AFG has been paying back to Pakistan for hosting millions of its refugees is to get in bed with Pakistan's arch enemy. What else can we expect from AFG.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:56pm
@Mohammed
The difference perhaps is that India doesn't wish to "conquer" the Afghans unlike the countries you mentioned. This is good news for Afghanistan. Lets hope after the amount they have suffered(internally and externally), they will finally have some development.
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Jun 04, 2016 06:57pm
@Tariq Rashid This is exactly what India would want to do in Pakistan the day Pakistan considers India a friend.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:02pm
Between positivity and negativity there is not just a world of difference, the end results will be opposite to each other. India and Afghanistan have been brothers and neighbors for centuries and over time have built trust and mutual respect. Every Indian knows that over the last four decades Afghanistan has been ravaged and destroyed by foreign machinations. As a brother India will extend all help to get Afghans on their feet, so they regain their confidence and pride.
Two billion Dollars spent by India in building infrastructure is small help to get the brother back on its feet. As a brother we will help selflessly expecting nothing in return but affection of the Afghan people. Karma will repay India for helping a brother in need.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:04pm
@arunkum1 I doubt Taliban would be able to regain Afghanistan when world powers and most of its neighbors against their extremist ideology.
To get some power-share, Taliban would need to agree on democratic-setup which they may not.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:08pm
Extremely happy for the people of Afghanistan. Congratulations. May your country prosper with the gains, grains and Energy from this Dam. A prosperous Afghanistan with a higher GDP is better than an Afghanistan suffering under the brutal Taleban regime. Afghanistan should identify core areas in which it can gain from the expertise of countries like India and increase its trade. For example, textiles etc. Once again hearty congratulations.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:10pm
@Nooru52 ,"Is there any Specific reason for Indian Friendship with Afghanistan"
India wouldn't mind building dams and bridges in Pakistan too, as a goodwill gesture, but Pakistan's mindset and activities should be right!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:11pm
@Desi Bhai , Pakistan and India have the same umbilical cord, there is not an iota of doubt in my mind that more and more youths are unshackling cultish backwardness and looking forward to progressive relationship of trust and respect. Pakistanis and Indians are the best buddies when they are out of their cocoons (Pakistan-India). Look how they mingle and enjoy life in USA, Australia, Canada, UK?
Let them bring the good memories and collaboration back to Pakistan and India. Cheers!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:12pm
@Mohammed Sattar , you are absolutely wrong!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:13pm
@Srinivasulu Mekala You nailed it !
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Jun 04, 2016 07:16pm
A road & rail corridor linking India Pak & Afganistan should be put on proposal. Economic & cultural ties will strengthen. Common citizens have no issues. Why then fundamentalists so called political groups keep on creating rifts. Let UN conduct a unbiased census & prove the point to all those who think otherwise & are happy being sceptical.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:18pm
Afghanistan has taken money from everyone and anyone in the world but showed zero loylity in return. Let's see how far this friendship will last!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:19pm
Great Help from India to Afghanistan, while more than half of India is under poverty Line. Great job Modi, as Modi is expecting profit from Countries like Afghanistan not from his own homeland. Great Job.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:20pm
@Muhammad Waqas What is this infatuation?? Dams are not meant mainly to block water for/from other countries. Expanding populations of south asia need expanding agriculture, which in turn needs more and more water. Dams are meant for this only. Yes, nature will take its course no doubt!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:20pm
@arunkum1: Taliban will never come to power. Not only USA but also China will not allow.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:24pm
The location of the dam is an interesting point. It is located in the Herat province which adjoins Iran. My hypothesis is that the electricity generated could be used for the Herat part of the Chabahar-Central Asia route that is being planned. If that is indeed the case, it would be a case of real foresight on part of the Indian government (something that they are not usually known for).
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Jun 04, 2016 07:24pm
True brothers destined for glory.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:26pm
@Khan All invaders doesn't come from Afghanistan but through Afghan route. Learn history and then comment.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:27pm
@Harmony-1© Indians are an outside presence which Afghans actually welcome.
75% of Afghans want India in and 50% want the USA OUT!:):)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0z-818i2D0
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Jun 04, 2016 07:33pm
@Varun Darling it started in Vajpayee govt. Glad that finally it is done. MMS was a useless PM.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:36pm
@Mohammed we dont want any repayment. As simple as that.! Its a beautiful country with a sad history...lets just hope for peace health and happiness of the afgan souls...
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Jun 04, 2016 07:36pm
@ROHIT PANDEY - That's good then...but I never said or even implied anywhere that India should not help or they are not being welcomed! Did you read my comments? You are very precise with your percentages though!
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Jun 04, 2016 07:38pm
@Mohammed
India is not looking for any repayment or strategic depth as we respect the sovereignty of Afghanistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:40pm
It s written in hindu scriptures that keep good relations with the country which is across than neighbour . U can see relations with pak @ sri lanka. And Afghans ungrateful and disloyale to all. If india is sincere with afghan nation then allow its refugees to enter india?
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Jun 04, 2016 07:42pm
@Super Thanks to Congress party and Dr Manmohan Singh. (Modi just 'inaugurated'. the dam).
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Jun 04, 2016 07:43pm
Rally wish afgan brothers to get all the help n wellwishes there in this world.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:52pm
@Nooru52 ,we are building dams,roads,ports,oil explorations,refineries in other countries
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Jun 04, 2016 07:54pm
@SHIRAZ You failed to build a dam in Pakistan and there is load shedding to the tune of 6 to 8 hrs in cities and more than 12 hrs in rural area so in stead of Afganistan build a dam in your own country.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:57pm
Really happy for our Afghan bothers. hope this will ease the pain a little bit.
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Jun 04, 2016 07:59pm
@PK I really wish my country create a district in my state Kerala for all these brothers in this difficult time and saliently support them to proper.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:01pm
@Harmony-1© Is helping the needy is a bad sin ?
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Jun 04, 2016 08:01pm
@M.Sethi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NISAR_(satellite)
India is cooperating with the US in remote sensing technology.
USAID? What is that?:)
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Jun 04, 2016 08:04pm
@Hannan "More than half of India is under poverty Line " From where did you get this info? Can you please share the link. Please also look at the poverty percentage in Pakistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:06pm
@Lafanga It is not chess and it is not a move. India wants to progress together with its neighbors
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Jun 04, 2016 08:08pm
India should learn a lesson from the fate and sufferings of USSR and USA in Afghanistan
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Jun 04, 2016 08:09pm
@Calm Agreed 100%
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Jun 04, 2016 08:12pm
India should reconsider its policies towards the region. The motive behind their humanitarian aid is to use Afghanistan against Pakistan. It would be better for India to understand that if it tries to spoil the balance of the region it would not be good for her as well. India should adopt a sagacious outlook and try not to use a country against another. It should also promote friendly relations with Pakistan instead of a hardline approach towards its neighbour. Both India and Pakistan can help in establishing a better, prosperous Afghanistan. A new era of peace can be initiated by jointly vitiating decades old differences.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:15pm
@AXH Why is it always a zero sum game with Pakistan? Why countries have to be exclusive in their foreign relations? It is not a healthy or practical approach.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:16pm
@Mohammed One should not "HELP" others with expectation to get some thing back in return. Then it is not called "HELP
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Jun 04, 2016 08:18pm
@lafanga Afghanistan's semi-stable state is because of Pakistan's support for Taliban-Haqqani network.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:18pm
@AKKS please explain to me what I have said that is wrong. Is it 3000000 plus refugees or the fact that we have been hosting them for over 3o years or the fact that all our hospitals are full of Afgans while our own people can't get treatment and still we are the enemy.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:21pm
10 years ago when it was decided to help build the dam Modi Sharif was no where in the picture. If only he was equally help the minorities in India!
Projects in Afghanistan are good in the long run. They would provide source of livelihood to people and discourage young people to take the path of terrorism, provide a stability to the society.
One helps people,not to receive gratitude but because it ultimately helps everyone in the neighborhood. It might provide a reason for millions of Afgan refugees to return to their country and reduce pressure on Pakistan. The Afghans who are shipping out Millions of Dollars to Dubai may find a good reason to invest all those funds back in their own country.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:22pm
@Hannan There are more than 82 million people below poverty line in China. This is almost half of Pakistan's population. So as per your logic China should stop CPEC now and concentrate on these people.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:23pm
@Harmony-1© Good neighborly relations! If you can trust your neighbors, you can focus on your work that is good for your own people. It works mutually. Harmony and mistrust work in opposite ways.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:27pm
Hail Indo-Afghan friendship.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:35pm
@Super : Indian PM Modi is in a great hurry. He has hurriedly befriended Iran and Afghanistan, both Muslim countries without waiting for them to be completely free free from exasperation of war and sanctions!
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Jun 04, 2016 08:36pm
@Mohammed
We do not want any repayment. Indians believe in Karma ( duty) without worrying about reward.
We wish our Afgan brothers N sisters the very best. Same wishes for all humanity including Pakistanis.
thanks
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Jun 04, 2016 08:40pm
All countries are stopping aid to India because we are donating more than we receiving aid...which is very good news.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:47pm
Provide some justice to people of Gujarat.we all know what he did with gujratis,during his tenure.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:54pm
awesome news of India and Afghan friendship. kudos to people in both countries.
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Jun 04, 2016 08:57pm
@Issah - as if you have all in Pakistan?
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Jun 04, 2016 09:02pm
@saba Vajpayee wanted to build a good relation ship with Pakistanis and got Kargil as a gift...
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Jun 04, 2016 09:02pm
india andModi dont love afghanistan, just the interest of india (Modi) angainst Pakistan
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Jun 04, 2016 09:04pm
Water is God's precious gift to humanity. This Afghan-India Friendship Dam providing water to the parched fields and clean electricity to Afghan homes is a celebration of humanity !
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Jun 04, 2016 09:07pm
India is doing well for the region as well as for indians. I wish Pakistan could understand the changing scenario in the subcontinent and shake hand with India. Both the countries cannot wage any war and it is time to come closer and work together for prosperity of both the nations. India is giant and can do much better than Pakistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 09:11pm
@Sajid Syed : you are 100% correct .
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Jun 04, 2016 09:18pm
Our country's failed diplomacy...
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Jun 04, 2016 09:19pm
@Mohammed Friends don't expect repay.....India doesn't expect repay from Afghanistan
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Jun 04, 2016 09:22pm
@Singh very well said"strategic depth won in hearts not on land ."
Impressive words sardar ji.
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Jun 04, 2016 09:48pm
@M. Emad kabul river comes from chitral district of pakistan which passes through afghanistan and again enter pakistan ,how can they build a dam there when water goes from pakistan .
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Jun 04, 2016 09:48pm
We are friends with almost everyone except our cousins the Pakistanis and the Chinese. Even with China we might not be friends but atleast we have a good working relationship. I do not expect anything to change, and mind you its not the Kashmir issue, its the Pakistani army which decides our relations. What justification the Pakistani army would have to get the lions share of the buget if Pakistan's relation become normal with India?
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Jun 04, 2016 09:51pm
A strong Afghanistan is essential for the whole region,especially for the immediate neighbours. We all should contribute to that.It is a positive development,so please appreciate it.
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Jun 04, 2016 09:52pm
@Tanveer Ahmed You are right. Mr. Modi is playing a very instrumental role in the subcontinent and he seems to have sharp foresight. India could play a role like a big brother in the region. We Pakistanis must accept the reality that India has been successful in its foreign policy and we failed to do any significant progress in our foreign policies.
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Jun 04, 2016 09:52pm
@Khan Yes. Invaders came from Afghanistan so came saints like Chisti and poets like Rumi. Afghani are not very proud of invaders though. Its present day Pakistanis who are proud of Afghan invaders... Ghori missile !!!
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Jun 04, 2016 09:53pm
Banner wrote in English and Dari . Why in Pashtu . Afghanistan is the land of Afghan .
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Jun 04, 2016 09:59pm
I am afghani and respect Indian gesture! Modi u won our hearts!
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Jun 04, 2016 10:06pm
Congratulations Afghanistan, it's a small step towards prosperity.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:08pm
The inauguration and implementable of this multi- purpose project by India , provides an instructive lesson for Pakistan to opt for winning over the hearts and minds of the Afghan people.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:13pm
Instead of aiding a faraway country for security reasons, I think India should use its hard earned taxpayers money to strengthen it's military.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:15pm
@Super what has Modi done for this dam?
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Jun 04, 2016 10:36pm
@Hanna...Yes indeed great job...helping a neighbour in need,which you don't understand! !
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Jun 04, 2016 10:37pm
I wish India had invested USD 300 million on its own people who are living below poverty lines; that is unless India has other designs against its western neighbour.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:38pm
@Shiraz
Pakistan is free to buy 18 or 200 F-16s, provided it uses it's own tax payer's money. Why use US tax payer's money? Also I don't think it's a Modi phenomenon, the questions about Pakistan are genuine. Gone are those days when we could fool US Congress by paying/sponsoring a group of representatives, who would vote for us. The India phenomenon is much bugger and long lasting.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:40pm
@khan I didn't. We are talking about cooperation and help in their construction. As a matter of fact, there are several power generation projects underway in Pakistan at the moment. The power generation capacity of these power plants will eclipse the capacity of the Kunar project hence you are spending a lot of money on the power plants within Pakistan too.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:41pm
@Shiraz. I seem to have read an announcement that the manufacture of F-16 in the US is to stop. Further, the assembly line might be exported to India where new &, perhaps, improved versions of F-16 will be produced. Of course, Pakistan is at liberty to buy the new F-16 at a cheaper price but will have to pay cash.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:41pm
@brar The failure is due to the provincial differences. It has got nothing to do with the financial circumstances.
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Jun 04, 2016 10:55pm
@AZAAD Yes brother, it would be amazing. War and hostility at the end of the day brings nothing but grim. We want India and all our neighbors to prosper economically and culturally.
Hopefully, the South Asia will find it's lost peace before our lifetimes :))
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Jun 04, 2016 11:04pm
@Nooru52
Wake up. Reality is much differentthan what is shown in Pak India. India will become electricity sufficient by 2018-2022
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Jun 04, 2016 11:05pm
@Harmony-1© :You mean "branding"? Humility is superior to pride!
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Jun 04, 2016 11:11pm
@Anis : Because they can't do them even in Pakistan!
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Jun 04, 2016 11:11pm
@Australian Agnostic
Coz till recently India wasn't ruled by Modi
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Jun 04, 2016 11:16pm
@Mohammed u need to elaborate on part how Russians, US or Pakistan helped building infrastructure in Afghanistan ? India is building infrastructure not helping them in a way which eventually meet ur ends.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:20pm
You need to elaborate on the part where Soviets, US or Pakistan helped building infrastructure in Afghanistan. India is helping them by building essential infrastructure, not by meeting it's own ends.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:22pm
@Mohammed India doesn't want anything in return. If whatever we are doing stabilises Afghanistan, brings them prosperity and allows them to be independent politically, economically and strategically, it is more than enough for us. India should set up all infra industries such as cement, steel, etc free of cost in Afghanistan, making it a hub fot exports to central Asia. Tatas should set up car factory in Herat to export cars to Central Asia. A prosperous neighborhood promotes peace and ends militancy. If Pakistan allows Indians, we will do it for you too. Please learn from India-China relationship. Dispute border problem, we are increasing our economic relationship.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:28pm
@Anis Because they need China to build theirs.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:34pm
@Varun Modi believes in finishing projects. That is the difference. Congress was champion of starting projects. Laying foundation stones like a dangling carrot in order to get votes. Modi is a doer. Do you know how many railway projects that were in the limbo for a decade have been cleared in his first year as PM and the work is scheduled to be completed before the end of this year.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:35pm
Afghanistan must get out of Pakistans influence in absolute terms. Let Kandahar province go to Pakistan and Fata and KP can go to Afghanistan.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:38pm
A good move, i hope the intentions of Modi are honest and he is creating strong ties with Afghanistan for business purposes rather than to contain Pakistan from western side. On the other hand Pakistani think tank must be seriously thinking about possible consequences of India-Iran and India-Afghanistan boosting relationships. I think Modi should also try to further improve relations with his neighbours particularly Srilanka, China, Nepal, and Burma, besides, when he is vigorously strengthing ties with Pakistani neghbour countries.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:40pm
@Anis pakistans contribution to afghanistan is only death ,destruction, misery & sorrow.pakistan is incapable of any thing else
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Jun 04, 2016 11:40pm
@Mohammed good one
...exactly
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Jun 04, 2016 11:41pm
@Harmony-1© Brother your hate is going to eat you inside
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Jun 04, 2016 11:43pm
@SHIRAZ $500 million USD....
can you quote the source of this nugget of information. Or may be u just like the sound of the figure. Now you did not specify whether that money is spent on yearly basis or 25 year basis.
Just remember the F-16 fiasco and you will understand what I mean.
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Jun 04, 2016 11:47pm
@ripan may be Indian should take all the good people as refugees residing in pakistan...as well
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Jun 04, 2016 11:49pm
@adit yeah right !
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Jun 04, 2016 11:55pm
@Mohammed
This is one thing which should not concern you. Besides it was not Pakistan but the Pakhtuns who provided whatever they could to give them the land to build temporay dwellings with the lame.
Re x Minor
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Jun 05, 2016 12:05am
@beef eater: Why are you Arabs more interested with Indian Muslims and not with the Chinese Muslims?
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Jun 05, 2016 12:07am
what is pakistan contribution in building afghanistan its so called brotherly
neighbour ?
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Jun 05, 2016 12:08am
@Desi Bhai
one cant clap with one hand
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Jun 05, 2016 12:13am
@flying star
same we can say for pak china
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Jun 05, 2016 12:14am
@beef eater
minorities in india are more safe & happier then in your country where the population of minorities keep going down ??
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Jun 05, 2016 12:22am
Well done India. Afghanis need help in building stronger democratic institutions for long term prosperity and peace. Now, how about helping your closer relatives just across the border? We could do with help in education, engineering projects and health. This will be a good way to start the peace and prosperity initiative after 68+ years of each looking at the other as enemies. Time to change the narrative. If we tried hard we can do it.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:24am
@Mohammed When there is love one doesn't need payback. It is unconditional.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:27am
@Suraj Only if he distanced himself from RSS, Hindu reactionary Taliban, venomous VHP, etc. I am not suggesting we are all clean and loving - we too have equivalent nasties that most of us would like to get rid of.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:30am
@Sanjeeb Bose,"@saba Vajpayee wanted to build a good relation ship with Pakistanis and got Kargil as a gift..."
You are 100% correct!
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Jun 05, 2016 12:32am
@SHIRAZ We need to fix our own problems first - water, electric supply, education which is abysmal to say the least and scanty health facilities except for the rich, housing, etc. We are low tax colectors, high borrowers and survive on supplemental aid and charities.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:34am
@Anis We will ask the Chinese.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:41am
There is no such thing as free lunch.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:50am
Congratulations to India and Afghanistan and all the workers and engineers ....
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Jun 05, 2016 12:51am
@Srini nice thought could you pls do a project for 4000 megawatts instead of 40 and do it for being a friend and not charge Afghans then the Afghans can sell that electricity and be forever grateful like they were every time they came back from Somnat
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Jun 05, 2016 01:11am
@beef eater we are happy and peaceful in Gujarat. You need not to worry.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:16am
@Calm There are two kinds of pride, both good and bad. 'Good pride' represents our dignity and self-respect. 'Bad pride' is the deadly sin of superiority that reeks of conceit and arrogance. - John C. Maxwell"
" We ruled India and Hindus for a thousand years" is oft repeated refrain from Pakistani-Muslims.
Guess there is something called BAD pride?:)
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Jun 05, 2016 01:21am
Cannot understand why other countries are so keen to rebuild Afghanistan and patrol their border and occupy their territory what is so special, is Afghanistan some kind of a incurable spreadable disease .Why the special treatment ?
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Jun 05, 2016 01:21am
Modi Rocks!
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Jun 05, 2016 01:21am
@Mohammed
With love dear friend.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:59am
@Tariq Rashid and what about us we don;t need money from any one ?
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Jun 05, 2016 02:00am
@M.Saeed
the truth.pak was one of the only 2 nations to recognize them.many pakistanis refuse to open their eyes to see what damage and mischief their nation has created in their neighborhood .what u sow so shall u reap.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:03am
@Mohammed India doesn't want repayment from Afghanistan. We are trying to make up for the suffering of Baccha Khan and his Pashtun movement for peace, true Islam, liberty & fraternity. A part of the reason for that suffering were we Indians. Perhaps all of our ancestors who in our eagerness to get freedom for ourselves threw them "to the wolves"
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Jun 05, 2016 02:17am
I hope we see a day soon (n our lifetimes at least) where there can be india-pakistan friendship dam and many more joint adventures and projects..
if we join hands, it will be a benefit for both of us.. in fact india-pakistan-bangladesh and afghanistan too should join hands and work on joint projects..
"the more the merrier"
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Jun 05, 2016 02:24am
@SHIRAZ As I know them well Afghans are every way the same in US ,Australia, Canada or Europe; free loader, uneducated un-driven and know how to beat the western system to their advantage. As Pakistan has or had no system and corrupt politicians, the facilities (whatever these are) , it was natural for them to exploit to the hilt. Karachi is living example how they have merged themselves and lost in our society but far from being loyal only subversive.
It is us, respnsible of what is happening. They hit the jackpot by coming to Pakistan, compared to what Afghanistan was and still today.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:24am
Happy Ramzan to ALL. And, this is a gift from India to people of Afghanistan for Ramzan.!!!:)
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Jun 05, 2016 02:34am
@MIAN AHMAD @Singh very well said"strategic depth won in hearts not on land ." Impressive words sardar ji.
For over 2,000 years Jews in India led a peaceful and prosperous life, while they faced pogroms in many countries of Europe and the Middle East.
India is reaping the fruits of that ENORMOUS good will generated over centuries.
India gets cutting-edge defence products and technology in military and other areas.:):)
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Jun 05, 2016 03:05am
@M.Sethi Why is that mind-boggling? Even if your claim that India receives the most USAid were to be true, India's actions must be much more admirable because a poor country is helping its neighbor in need.
Modi himself agreed in his speech that India is modest in its resources but not in good will towards its neighbors. Can you be happy, if your neighbor is hit by a misfortune?
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Jun 05, 2016 03:10am
This is wonderful news. India is progressive. Hope they build mor dams.
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Jun 05, 2016 03:13am
India has a great leadership in modi. Well done mr modi. Under modi, India will profess a lot . Very proud of India.
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Jun 05, 2016 03:20am
@lafanga your mindset is still about who owns the relationship with Afghanistan. If only Pakistan accepts that Afghanistan is an independant nation free to choose its friends, all problems will be solved. If only Pakistan could understand that India spends to further its trade and economy it will not see a threat in every deal and every visit by Modi.
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Jun 05, 2016 03:48am
@Issah Do you have problem with this which is essentially Indian's problem.
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Jun 05, 2016 04:24am
@india the super power - you are poor,mentally....
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Jun 05, 2016 05:25am
@Anis
First Pakistan should built these in Baluchistan and other provinces of Pakistan before doing anthing in Afghanistan.
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Jun 05, 2016 05:36am
@Mohammed Maybe India does not expect something back. Perhaps peace and prosperity in Afghanistan will be benefit enough...for all of us in the region
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Jun 05, 2016 06:24am
Pakistan is now fully encircled due to indias old friendship with the Northern Alliance who the Americans installed in Afghanistan.
We cant work with the current afghan govt and should close the border and throw out refugees.
When a more representative govt returns, our relationship will improve.
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Jun 05, 2016 06:38am
Saudis, Iranis, Afghans,Iraqis, Bangladeshis are good friends of India. No prize for guessing who is not.
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Jun 05, 2016 07:44am
@Desi Bhai "Tali do hathh se bajti hai". Where the cooperation will come when Pakistan is building Tactical Nuclear weapons than dams.
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Jun 05, 2016 08:44am
Good Luck from Pakistan....Good new for Afghans.
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Jun 05, 2016 08:44am
When a country gives aid for development projects in another country, its own economy gets immediate benefit and the host country the same in long term. For example- the dam project used mostly Indian equipment, material,consultants, contractors and manpower.The projects that Chinese are building in Pakistan must similarly using 100% Chinese resources. It helps the capital goods and services sector of the donor nation and not necessarily that of the host country. All international aids have a socio- political undertone first and economic- political factors only thereafter. These are the principles of international developmental economics.
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Jun 05, 2016 08:47am
@SHIRAZ what Pakistan has engineers?oh you mean the chinese engineers and the Pakistan army engineers, but where are the civilian engineers-they work for the army too.
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Jun 05, 2016 08:56am
@Javed Mamoon please stop accusing Pakistan for your failures ! This is all about the old Arab saying :."Enemy of enemy is my friend".
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Jun 05, 2016 09:00am
@DD ...and some country took billions of aid from USA and at the same time back stabbed it by hiding and supporting terrorists and then USA had to undertake covert ops to take out these terrorists w/o the other country's knowledge....
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Jun 05, 2016 09:03am
@Muhammad Waqas ....but you have succeeded in blocking your mind with unrelated and unwanted hogwash
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Jun 05, 2016 09:27am
@Zee "Why can't India do the same for Pakistan. Thete should be Afghan- Pakistan- India Economic corridor"
India can easily do the same and note for Pakistan. But suspicion,ego, hatreds and a huge superiority complex will never allow Pakistan to take help from India. After all the Chinese, Americans and IMF/WB are the best well-wishers of Pakistan since decades.
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Jun 05, 2016 09:38am
@Javed Mamoon ! I wish if you could have been thinking like a Muslim and not just like an Indian ! Why you have so much grudge against Pakistani Muslims ?
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Jun 05, 2016 09:48am
What comes to mind is how India is systematically building relations with every country in the world through economic and friendly ties. This is how international relations are developed. Unfortunately, too much of our focus has been on our military strength and nuclear power alone. What that is a necessary strength, that by itself is not enough either to build a nation or build foreign relations. If we need to develop internally and externally, it is critical that our civilian governments are given full power (despite any inefficiencies they may have), and our military should confine itself to defense alone. Otherwise, our relations with Afghanistan will go further downhill.
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Jun 05, 2016 09:57am
@Omar The very same people that "invited" the soviets to Afghanistan are back in power and the very same people who fought the soviets are fighting against those in power. Is it just a coincidence ?
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Jun 05, 2016 09:58am
@Bharat Where did u get this piece of history from bro
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Jun 05, 2016 10:01am
@raw is war There is no such thing as a free lunch my friend. We Pakistanis very well understand the currency you are being paid back in and dozens on Indian "consulates" alongside the Pak-Afghan border is atestimony to that :)
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Jun 05, 2016 10:08am
Only if people know who is behind terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan through Afghanistan.
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Jun 05, 2016 10:09am
@Desi Bhai - India gave most favored nation tag to Pakistan but Pakistan didnt acknowledged it . India asked to revive bilateral ties , trade and land transit to Afghanistan which had would have mutual benefit and brought peace and prosperity . But alas this didn't materialized due to short sighted approach . With WORSENING relations on all borders , the Pakistan civil society should wake up and tell the civil govt. that their future cannot be taken for granted .
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Jun 05, 2016 10:33am
India has surplus electricity this year.. and will be surplus in near future.. pakistan needs electricity, sanitation, a big market and not war.. Kashmir will solve on its own once trade flows.. but common sense is not so common and pakistan would loose baluchistan.
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Jun 05, 2016 10:37am
@Mohammed That is the point! Do good and forget!
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Jun 05, 2016 10:42am
@Omar Right said Omar! If you help, you will be appreciated but if you say since I helped you, I have a right over you, no body will accept that! Which is why India helps and forgets.
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Jun 05, 2016 10:58am
@Ahmad Durrani what about the afghanis refugees in Pakistan ask to Modi about theme
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Jun 05, 2016 11:03am
In spite of all disputes and shortcomings pk should move closer to Afghanistan and Iran,hope should no b lost at all cost.Visionery ? required.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:03am
@Mohammed These are stories of the past. The time has changed and let there be understand and cooperation between the regional forces. And don't forget it is all at our cost.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:06am
@romi we progresse on the level
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Jun 05, 2016 11:10am
@Nooru52 One of the first acts of the Modi government was to declare that no village in India would be without electricity in 1000 days. When the Modi government came to power approx 17000 villages, with a total population of less than 1 Cr ( less than 15 of India's population)were yet to be electrified. Already over 8000 villages have been electrified in the last two years. India has also moved to being a power surplus situation where power is available and power cuts are not due to shortage issues.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:17am
@saba "Both India and Pakistan can help in establishing a better, prosperous Afghanistan."... first Pakistan has to do is open the gate for India to transit to Afghan. Then we will thick about joint approach to help each other.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:19am
@Muhammad Waqas Dude ur a Blackbelt in imagination & delusion!
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Jun 05, 2016 11:24am
@Mohammad S. Khalid What lesson? India has nothing to loose.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:39am
India's contribution in afghAfghanistan.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:41am
@Tanveer Ahmed Size doesn't matter as much as the nature of thinking, which should be good - good for yourself and others also.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:48am
@Tahir Instead Pak with good honest and sincere intentions, should pull back Taliban and help Afghanistan, wherafter, it can send Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan, which in turn will help Pak also grow faster. But then, one can tell this to NS, but not Army, which will never let it happen, and you know why. Nobody likes to leave one's own country.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:55am
@Khan "...thinking like a muslim". Then why do muslims migrate to the non-islamic countries and fear islamic countries. Ask Pak refugees in Europe, they prefer death to being sent to Turkey. It seems "thinking like a muslim" for you means lies deception and ingratitude.
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Jun 05, 2016 11:58am
@Azmat Shah The consulates are there since 1949 or even before.
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Jun 05, 2016 12:31pm
@Rehman Spot on and very sensibly put. Hope the leaders derive sense out of this.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:00pm
A Small step towards the prosperity of Afghanistan. I proud that my country contributes to constructive works.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:08pm
It is well known fact that people are always comfortable meeting and living with people who have common culture, race, language, food, living etc. Pakistan and India both have almost everything common even we Pakistanis watch Indian movies almost everyday in homes and children recognize Indian actors more than Pakistani actors. But when it comes to develop economic relationships we go with China where we have nothing common. Our commoners will be comfortable with Indians doing business but we like to business with strangers just for our ego. I ask all my Pakistanis please review our attitude and accept the reality. India is and can be best business partner in all areas the need is to end our ego and step forward to greet Indians. I hope when we do this Indians will be more welcoming as I know many indians regardless religion they are very friendly and welcoming.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:11pm
Economic Growth is need of the Hour. India should open such dams in other small countries too. Like Sri-Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh etc.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:12pm
@Mohammed Brilliant and Befitting Reply!
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Jun 05, 2016 01:22pm
A strategic move on part of the government of India in its quest to kill two birds wirh one stone. It is Indian plan towards the path of avchieving the goal of Greater Baharaat that first intice Afghanistan by intiating humanitarian projects in the hope of pinning it against Pakistan and when they both become weaker through their internecine rivalary declare its hegemony over both of them is what every one even a school going child know it. But Pakistan has to walk a long way if it thinks that it can foil the plans of those who think that we are a easy target. The first step in this regard should be our current policy of sticking to our current policy of getting ourselves of the corrupt politicians, state functionaries both civil and military and strive to uphold transperency in our dealings. Amid this confusion there is still light at the dark tunnel of our relations with other nations by lending credence to the interests of the state over our personel gains brothers and sisters.
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Jun 05, 2016 01:28pm
@Suraj
Yeah..the largest democracy has already converted into a largest "damn-crazy" of the world.....no harm in having dreams of becoming a world power.
Pak-China friendship Zindabad!!
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Jun 05, 2016 02:01pm
@Omar
You mean Indians are not an occupying force in Afghanistan the way they are in Kashmir?
And if Soviets were an occupying force what are the Americans upto....having first destroyed the country they are still sitting pretty on the Afghan land. Perhaps it will be difficult for the Indians to criticise their benefactor and new papa.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:14pm
@Akram No Akram it's not, it is called helping a friend.Doing this to get something in return is not called a help, that is called a deal
CPEC is a deal and Pakistan will have to pay dearly to China soon. Chinese made a road in Pakistan for themselves, creating jobs for their own workforce. Pakistan has virtually nothing to export except 2-3 tons of Mangoes a year. China will use the road for free, Port for free and Pakistan will pay for the construction cost with 18% interest.
Paying interest is justifiable (not this high though) if that can boost your economy and allows you to gain a greater economical boost. But paying interest for a a infra most of which you can never use, is laughable.
Apart from the road, another big buck project of this plan is a very dangerous nuclear experiment that China does not want to carry out in their home. China hit two birds in one shot ,they are building it in outside China - Karachi, and cost will be paid by Pakistan with interest.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:15pm
@Sanjeev Yadav winning hearts is more important than waging wars
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Jun 05, 2016 02:18pm
@Javed
Even a person of average intelligence should know that F16 issue is different. Regardless of what resources Pakistan has we were not meant to have paid for these toys. They were meant to have been subsidised under the Coalition rules ....simple business.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:18pm
@Mohammed Afghanistan never asked for it, so if someone wants to do things for Afghanistan why should they say no. Pakistan hosted a lot of afghan refugees, but also made a lot of money from the funds it received to help the Afghans out and there rehabilitation, which they never received, tell me if this is not true
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Jun 05, 2016 02:34pm
@M. Emad Why????
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Jun 05, 2016 02:34pm
@Mohammed Not everything is done for appreciation and returns, something are done for friendship too..so you don't have to worry too much.
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Jun 05, 2016 02:38pm
@Khan I will love to know how one thinks like a Muslim. Please expand. A lot of people will benefit from your advice. Thanks in advance
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Jun 05, 2016 02:51pm
@Suman
What is your definition of aid? Do not try and change its meaning!
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Jun 05, 2016 03:15pm
@Khi96 bhai only after Pakistan sponsored things in India
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Jun 05, 2016 03:42pm
@Khan because he is a sane person and he is an indian first and religion is his personal affair. His identity is not muslim ..its INDIAN..
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Jun 05, 2016 04:01pm
@Khan china and pakistan have so much in common and their is no enmity towards india. One is left wing other is right.
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Jun 05, 2016 07:18pm
Afghanistan needs host like all parasites do ! India is available . If British , Russians and Americans failed , what Indians could achieve from this adventure ? When Afghans were enslaved by Russians , where were Indians ?
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Jun 05, 2016 07:34pm
Afghanistan is moving towards being the next Bangladesh. Once the Chabahar port project is completed, with the help of India and Iran Afghan trade will multiply so much that their produce will find its way to the entire Middle East and part of Asia regions. By 2025, Afghanistan will be economically very strong and due to their trade their political ties with West will be far better than what they are today. This will make the country seek education and 30 years from now they'll be one of the most progressive nations - no one would believe that this land once had Taliban and so on!
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Jun 06, 2016 01:36am
@M.Sethi Aid India from all countries, not only USA received last year was the amount equivalent to 300 million, our federal budget alone was 300 billion will be 500 billion if state budgets are included, so aid is less than 0.001% of government expenditure!
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Jun 06, 2016 02:01am
@Khan
WOW....so you think Afghans are parasites???? Man, how much hatred you have in for your fellow Muslims and then you say why Afghans hate you. By the way what about you guys? Are you not parasites who jump from host to host like US, China, Saudi Arabia etc. ?
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Jun 06, 2016 04:35am
India being itself one of poorest countries in the world where people have no clean water , sanitation , health facilities and education has more political agenda than economical . Investments in Afghanistan and Iran are just eye wash as these resources could have been used for the welfare and betterment of ordinary Indians . Minorities in India are facing the worst situation and are living as second class citizens. They have no education opportunities , health facilities and political and social upbringing . Money spend for political mileage and regional supremacy should have spent on poor Indians !
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Jun 06, 2016 05:44am
@Afzal : COALITION RULES - What rules? Have you read them? I am sure you have not. Same as United Nations Security Council resolution no. 48. If you read them and inform yourself you will know why Govt. of Pakistan doesn't want people to know about process of plebiscite in Kashmir,
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Jun 06, 2016 05:51am
@Naxalite : Your knowledge base is very limited. Work is on in Nepal, on a very big dam. Sri Lanka doesnt need new dams. Discussions are already on with Bangladesh regarding identification of rivers where dams are going to be made.
BTW you missed Bhutan - There is another dam being made there as well by India.
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Jun 06, 2016 05:59am
@beef eater : For 10 years Congress tried all tricks on Modi, including CBI investigations, cases in the Supreme Court, paid news services against him. All had given clean chit during congress rule itself - otherwise he could not have run for the current job.
So it doesn't matter what you think!
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Jun 06, 2016 08:49am
@Desi Bhai , Both nations keep on trying to make things right, but sometimes Pakistan puts the priorities on Kashmir hindering all the progress, ultimately failing everything. Pakistan is alienating themselves from the rest of the world.
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Jun 06, 2016 09:41am
@Mohammed we dont expect any repay, Its is not applicable in friendship
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Jun 06, 2016 12:26pm
@Shyam Kokku,
well said dear shyam kokku, we are thankful to everyone who has helped us and will help. we just hate those who support the killing of innocent children, women and men.
A big thank you to India for building the India-afghan Salma dame.
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Jun 06, 2016 12:36pm
@adit Very well said, Adit. So long it helps strengthen peace in the region, that's enough.
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Jun 06, 2016 01:00pm
Aptly named, Friendship Dam
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Jun 06, 2016 01:23pm
@Mohammed It doesn't matter if Afghans forget Indian generosity. It is about friendship and help. We don't ask anything in return like Chinese.
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Jun 06, 2016 01:43pm
@Mohammed
This is about gaining influence through soft power. The problem with that is: it may or may not work but it definitely creates a good will among the people.
Talk to any Afghan about Indians and you get a favorable response. Not so about Pakistanis.
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Jun 06, 2016 01:46pm
@Mohammed - Repayment not expected. This is work done without any expectation.
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Jun 06, 2016 01:47pm
I think there is a great opportunity for both Pakistan and India to normalise realtions. 99% of Indians want a prosperous Pakistan. People of both countries should push their politicians to achieve peace.
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Jun 06, 2016 01:57pm
I dream of a day when a student passing out of say LUMS can apply for a job in Bangalore, India, and when he is selected, can reserve a ticket online, take a train to Bangalore from Lahore.
That is the age we live.
By denying our citizens these rights, we have ensured we will always lag behind everyone else.
Reject any kind of narrow patriotism, religious fanaticism, isloationist ideas. These do not belong to this age of facebook, emails, and mobile phones.
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Jun 06, 2016 02:15pm
@Feroz
I could not have put it better!
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Jun 06, 2016 02:17pm
@ali ghous
You are right on dot there my friend.
Let India and Pakistan trade, improve people to people relations. Let the trust deficit vanish.
Kashmir will solve itself then.
Nobody has ever tried this.
It is that simple!
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Jun 06, 2016 02:58pm
@Khan Afghans have nothing in common with pakistanis except for people of balochistan, pashtunkhwa. India and Afghanistan have been neighbours for centuries.
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Jun 06, 2016 04:06pm
On a similar note, just wondering if "Iron friend for life" China has built any dams or power stations in Pakistan as a goodwill gift ?
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Jun 06, 2016 04:51pm
Shocking.....They have really built the dam...not on just papers. Kudos to all involved
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Jun 06, 2016 05:15pm
Soviets did the same!! Cant wait to see another empire getting buried in Afghanistan
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Jun 06, 2016 05:21pm
@ROHIT PANDEY if india is a tolerant society then unicorns are real, some people just start believing their own lies
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Jun 06, 2016 08:47pm
There goes the little bit of the water they allow in Pakistan. India bromancing Afghanistan.
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Jun 07, 2016 07:28am
I sincerely doubt these investment in afganistan. Yes we know it is mineral reach but the devlopement of mines and extraction of minerals is very time consuming given the precarious security condition in afganistan but as we only protest to policies to be implemented inside the country and let the foreign policy at the best wisdom of the government I will let it happen and won't protest
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Jun 07, 2016 07:47am
@beef eater the world knows what he has done with GujuratI I.e. providing 24×7 electricity.24x7 drinking water making it the richest and safest and fastest growing state in india and india knows it that's why india has given a complete majority to this man to rule
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Jun 07, 2016 12:40pm
@sridhar A very noble idea from an Indian who really foresee a good future for the people of Pakistan but this will not happen in the near foreseeable future. Just read the hate and negative energy most Indians emit here against Pakistan. If these people are the cross- section of educated lot of your country then all bets are off.
FYI most LUMS, NUST, GIKI and UET Lahore graduates end up in Silicon Valley or join best US Universities and still hundreds head for China, Japan, Ukraine, Korean and European universities.
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