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Earlier today, I saw the short-clip posted online of ‘Innocence of Muslims’. All 14 minutes of it. It was not hard to locate. As the Interior Ministry, the Jamaat-ud-Dawa and the Jamaat-e-Islami have yet to grasp, the internet is nebulous. In my case, I found it within two minutes of a torrent search on the infamous The banning of YouTube therefore, is far more likely to inconvenience teenagers searching for music videos and those trying to troubleshoot their iPhones, rather than to deter any curious Pakistanis seeking the bizarrely titled video referred to above. In this case at least, the reactionary forces (to which the Interior Ministry has fallen prey) are nothing more than the enemy of convenience.

As for the video itself, upon watching it I was indeed highly offended, as an armchair critic of television and cinema. The production is so very amateurish that to even term it a home-video would be a disservice to camcorder owners. According to a quote attributed to the film-maker by the New York Times, the budget for the film was five million dollars. I find this preposterous and unbelievable. Including a dozen fake beards and one (rented) donkey, I doubt the entire budget could have exceeded five thousand dollars.

Even the actors involved in the production have revealed that they were kept in the dark regarding the actual plot of the film. Offensive dialogue was dubbed in (in a crude and obvious manner) to tailor the scenes for their intended purpose. CNN has attributed the following quotation to one actor: "They brought the actors in in post [production] and had them say specific words. Like 'Mohammed,' for example. It was isolated. It wasn't in context... They'd say 'Say Mohammed,' and they'd [the actors would] say 'Say Mohammed' why?" What this says about the standard of acting one might expect, is self-evident.

Which brings me to my next point: the question of why I was not offended as a Muslim. It is for the simple reason that the film itself was so very ridiculous. There was no thought put into the production whatsoever (at one juncture, a character posits the following equation: Man + X = Islamic Terrorist; Islamic Terrorist – X = Man; Solve for ‘X’; when his daughter asks him what ‘X’ is, he responds: “this is for you to discover” or something like that).

It is plainly obvious that the film is not ‘propaganda’, as commonly understood. There is no nation or group in the world that would deign to produce such trash for the furtherance of their cause. The work is in fact a liability, since I cannot imagine any actual bigots who would not be embarrassed to be associated with it. I found it absurd when media outlets trotted out a quote by Salman Rushdie to rubbish the production. The literal parallels may be obvious but there is in fact no real comparison: The Satanic Verses was a work of art which made a controversial assertion; this is merely the ravings of a mad man.

Yet I do think that an offence is made out under s.153-A of the Pakistan Penal Code, which criminalises the incitement through words, written or spoken, of enmity or hatred on the basis of religious grounds. The offence is made out not against the makers of the film (who, for God’s sake, have never even been to Pakistan) but against the opportunistic demagogues who are fanning the flames of hatred on the basis of this non-event. The very same flames which engulfed one life, left several injured and caused massive public property damage during riots against the US Embassy in Karachi.

As a friend poignantly noted yesterday, what does it say about our society when a former convict with a camcorder can shake the foundations of our nation’s stability. Does such an event merit mass protests in Karachi, Islamabad, Peshawar and Lahore? Does it merit the banning of, a popular website which, in the second half of 2011, attracted 24 per cent of the global bandwidth? By way of comparison, in the obverse situation (where an isolated Pakistani misanthrope were to make a hate film targeting Essa) would Mississippi (noted to be a highly religious US city) come to a shuddering halt? Would they ban video streams of Pakistan Television? Clearly, there is something deeply wrong with this picture.


The writer is a lawyer practicing in Karachi.



The views expressed by this blogger and in the following reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

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Comments (91) Closed

alvin Sep 18, 2012 12:16pm
its simple... if we hadnt banned youtube they woudlnt get how serious we really were and upset by the video..and banning it means less people can watch it...and less violence cause lets face it we are a violent nation! and when a non-muslim commits a crime hes deemed a criminal and judged by a court of law..but when a muslim does it he is called a 'terrorist' and thrown in a cell to be tortured for decades and we all know there are millions of muslims being tortured for no apparent reason..without being judged in a court of law and even if they were judged it was biased from the second they were labelled as terrorists. hence actions like banning a website are the only tools available for us to take actions cause no one is going to hear us otherwise! and actions speak louder than words.. and why not ban youtube? muslims around the world were hurt and i dont see other dicriminatory vidoes being put up that ridicule and hurt a segment of a religious population? why muslims onlY?
Whatever... Sep 18, 2012 09:39am
Useless article..........., whats youtube ?? we can ban the internet in Pakistan for such cause. The writer needs to read or refer some relevant religious text before writing such dumb articles.
MR Sep 18, 2012 12:22pm
The write has no clear understanding what is our responsibility as a Muslim and as per sunnah. Sadly speaking those who are against the step taken by Pakistan banning YouTube, I guess they should understand that what is stated haram by our Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), it is haram no room for argument, unfortunately we are deviating from our basic islamic teaching and instead inclining ourselves towards so called 'Moderate Muslims', may Allah guide us the right path. Ameen!!
MR Sep 18, 2012 12:22pm
certainly agree with you Adeeb
taimur Sep 18, 2012 07:42pm
I support the blocking of youtube despite whatever the blogger says.
UA Sep 18, 2012 12:23pm
Youtube has nothing to do with any real education, its pure entertainment. If Youtube can block this and other such videos reopen the site otherwise let it remain banned in the entire Muslim World. Simple as that. You have to stand by your Principles, it has nothing to do with fanatisism. Ask yourself what your Principles are.
Umer Sep 18, 2012 09:44am
Ban is not only to deter people from watching the video but deterence also make sure that a medium that is holding such content faces financial hit. In Pakistan alone there are 22 Million users of youtube. If all the Islamic countries ban youtube it will cause severe loss to youtube ending in removal of such content and a warning for future. For those who says the matter shouldnt have been highlighted, consider such things are said about your mother, you'll ignore the person or you'd want to stop him at any cost ? Its just the love for one person that drives such acts beyond your logic to understand. If you all dont love prophet pbuh that does not mean that others who are protesting dont. It hurts our feelings more than anything in the world. Having said that i should mention that killing people who are not responsible for it i.e. American Ambassador or destroying public property, is ofcourse wrong. But it is responsibility of the concerned country to make sure that such culprits who will trespass any limit to hurt muslims of the world are brought to justice. Hanging the culprit to death is I believe the correct punishment. No one should have the right to ridicule any holy figure under the umbrella of freedom of speech. It is even more ridiculous that I can sue someone in most of the countries if someone abuses me under contempt law, but when the same is done to our beloved prophet pbuh it is against freedom of speech to take legal action against such culprits? It is the faliure of law to provide justice that fuels such riots, killings, destruction of public properties. A leash is required for such people, today muslims are too weak to do that, perhaps one day !
Krish Sep 18, 2012 09:50am
Yes, the writer has described a classic case of overreaction. It reminds me of one story by old writer Kurt Vonnegut, where a city has a bad smell, and they go around cutting of people's noses, instead of taking steps to do away with the bad odour.
MR Sep 18, 2012 12:26pm
I would recommend you to read in detail what is our true responsibility as a Muslim to react under similar circumstances, read the history of Sahaba what they did, don't just come to conclusion and keep on keeping negative feelings for those who follow their life as per Quran and Sunnah. May Allah guide us the right path. Ameen!
Fayyaz Kashif Sep 18, 2012 09:57am
There is nothing wrong in this picture but something wrong with you, I think. You are sad that you can not listen songs. Right??? very good. Why don't you respect the opinion of hundreds of thousands of people who want youtube banned. For you this is a non-event. Good...very good. Here are the comments of Brian D. McLaren (author of "Why Did Jesus, Moses, the Buddha, and Mohammed Cross the Road? Christian Identity in a Multi-Faith World" (Jericho Books/Hachette Book Group). on CNN. "I tried to watch it, but I couldn
Adeeb Sep 18, 2012 08:54pm
Well put out views
Adeeb Sep 18, 2012 08:59pm
Totally agreed.
Muslim Sep 18, 2012 09:37pm
the great man Muhammad(PBUH) said there will come a time when ignorant will become rule or have authority (may Allah forgive me if i made any mistake this just rough meaning ) this article just goes to prove that
Asad Sep 19, 2012 12:55pm
'I am requesting all muslims not to use any American product untill it is very much required.' dear o dear.... that surely is the joke of the day... until its very much required !!!
Akka Sep 18, 2012 04:28pm
Perhaps you're right... pass the hand-grenades?
beg Sep 18, 2012 01:57pm
anonymous will become radical instantly if somebody swear at him or his wife or family members but he becomes educated and open minded on this sensitive issue
Observer Sep 18, 2012 06:54pm
it just shows your ignorance, youtube is full of lectures and extremely informative videos about philosopy, quantum physics, but in your world i guess its just a site for entertainment
Observer Sep 18, 2012 06:55pm
really, just read the comments and you will be proven soon that not all so called educated internet users know this
akmal Sep 18, 2012 06:29pm
There are several such videos on youtube, offending many other religions, however, as the good lawyer pointed out, it is Muslims who took the "bait, line and the sink".
ghori Sep 18, 2012 11:53am
I totally disagree. Instead of this writing, you may write that all counties should be bounded to show their religion into any type of drama, Stage show and other programs which may be using any types of broadcasting sources. And should also mention that being a Muslim country
NASAH (USA) Sep 18, 2012 10:32am
It is a typical Muslim solution to arising social problems -- cover up a woman to protect a woman from man's gaze instead of developing a societal milieu in which men learn to treat and respect women as an equal HUMAN BEING at par intellectually and socially in every respect with the men. Similarly for a Muslim -- why go to the U tube to find out how insulting and odious that anti Islamic crap is -- and wallow in it -- only to find out how crazy and mad and homicidal it makes me as a Muslim to burn to ground an innocent consulate and kill an uninvolved ambassador? As poet Ghalib would say in vernacular -- "jisko ho jaan-o dil aziz ooskee gully meiN jaaye keoN" -- ( if you really love your life and heart why go into the gully of heartache and despair -- here only to get violent? Why?). No need to ban the U tub -- just don't go there -- IGNORE it -- if you have full confidence in the authenticity and strength of your religion and its prophet.-- or are you still insecure after 1400 years and a 1.2 billion strong community ?
anon Sep 18, 2012 06:38pm
Yes, we could live without youtube but what would it achieve? Or what would blocking the film in India, Indonesia etc. achieve? The film still exists. It is just that us Muslims will have buried our heads in the sand. I just don't understand... The best reaction would have been no reaction so that the film would not have become famous world wide.
Adeeb Sep 18, 2012 10:42am
Ridiculous views. Youtube has been banned for continuation of displaying the movie. People whose job is just to sit behind computers will feel bad about it. My advice is, "Get a life".
janan Sep 18, 2012 11:39am
I thinks government took a right decision of blocking "Youtube", initially government contact Google to block the offensive contends the same way Google did for India, Indonesia, Egypt and Afghanistan where you can navigate the youtube but not the movie clips however Google refuses to do so. I thinks its good message ... 'hey see we can live without youtube and porn'
akmal Sep 18, 2012 06:25pm
Quran doesn't say "Ban Youtube"
Usman Sep 18, 2012 06:16pm
maybe we should ban whole internet, pack our bags and move to caves!
NZ Sep 18, 2012 06:07pm
I completely agree with MR. The views of the writer of the article are, however, ridiculous.
faaziz Sep 19, 2012 10:00am
We are heading to the bottom of a bottom less put.
Ghazi Sep 18, 2012 06:01pm
Very good article. I believe there are a few people who have proclaimed the Youtube ban to be rightful. My question to these "enlightened" individuals is as follows: Do you really understand the true value of Youtube? I can assure you it has more educational value to it than any form of entertainment value. Some people such as UA actually suggested that it is "pure entertainment". Well, if that is what you search for on the website, then yes, you will get entertainment. But for individuals like myself who actually use this website as a source of information and education, Youtube is a commendable tool and I am pretty sure there are millions like myself who use this service for what it is worth. Secondly, Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance. What is happening right now on the streets of Pakistan shows otherwise. Basically, we are proving to the West that we will fire up at anything and everything that undermines our values. Do not forget the Prophet (S.A.W) himself when he was insulted and hurt by the Quraish. The people of Taif pelted him with stones. In response, the Prophet (S.A.W) did not start chanting slogans like "Death to the Quraish" or "Death to Taif". He prayed for their forgiveness and he forgave them himself. Instead of following his example, we have taken our own path of protest and violence. Burning flags, breaking shop windows and killing ambassadors are the deplorable acts that have showcased a side of us Muslims that the Prophet (S.A.W) never wanted us to have. The best way to deal with any sort of hatred toward Islam is to let it slide. If we are so sure of our Muslim identity and our values, we should not let these provocations hurt us in the slightest! That is the best response we can give to those who attempt to undermine us. Just be tolerant folks!
Bill Maher Sep 18, 2012 10:55am
@Author: Pls have an Urdu paper publish it, if one has the sense and guts. Most sensible internet users probably know this already. "what does it say about our society when a former convict with a camcorder can shake the foundations of our nation
grace Sep 18, 2012 12:45pm
There is a saying that if someone calls you a fool, & if you react angrily, it means you have accepted that you are a fool....this does not solve any problem, rather it creates turbulance in our own minds, the society in Pakistan need to be more patient, & a non violent form of protest would be more fruitful
ghaleezguftar Sep 18, 2012 04:19pm
You are a bunch of religion obsessed fanatics always finding a justification to vent your frustrations, and always end up making a big mockery of yourselves. Thank you very much for the brief introduction!
GL Sep 19, 2012 09:00am
Muslims should not demean themselves by wasting their time over this trash. Ignore and carry on.
Arvind Das Sep 19, 2012 03:24am
Saw the clip last night. The director is a retard. Avoid the being affected & get on with life.
javeria Sep 19, 2012 02:56am
I 100% agree with you
pcoverclock Sep 19, 2012 12:28pm
Very well said bro. JazakAllah. To all the liberals: I feel ashamed that we Muslims are not even prepared to sacrifice least of our pleasure for the sake of our beloved Prophet Mohammed (PBUH). Certainly, there is something deeply wrong.
Ali Ammar Sep 19, 2012 03:56am
I fully agree with alvin! very true
Ali Ammar Sep 19, 2012 03:53am
I feel sick of reading the so called "Liberal" thoughts over the subject... one way or the other most of them are found saying that it was bad piece of art, ugly film making and blah blah.... come on, give it a break, its about the content, the message, the depiction. So you want someone to put in his/her best efforts to produce such a blasphemous film .. if i hire a street joker and ask him to depict so n so's father in a jokingly way,. i wonder how many would tolerate it and how many would ignore it saying oh , he is a street joker , why bother about him, One can give hours of lecture about lets be self righteous first, lets build our character first, lets advance in the scientific field first,,, ok, yeah we should do this all but there are certain instances where emotions and sentiments dominate and they should.. it lies within the very soul of muslims, and one needs to look at things in retrospect , not by quoting only those Saying of prophet (PBUH) and quranic verses which talks about peace and harmony, there are so many other incidents, quranic verses and Sayings of holy prophet(PBUH) which clearly states the concept of punishment, concept of revenge and all that... for once one must knock the door within him/self and ask what sort of relationship we possess with Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) and what that relationship exacts from us... an honest answer suffice and sums up everything,
Sabir Alli Shah Sep 18, 2012 03:50pm
I totally agree and appreciate this ban on YouTube.
Ahsan Sep 18, 2012 04:50pm
please dont teach other people what their religious responsibility is. every person has the right to choose what is right and what is wrong. thank you.
Abu Arsal Sep 18, 2012 11:39am
Its good to see that 47% are in the favor of blocking the youtube and more or less the same percentage against it. To be honest I thought there would not be more than 5% "liberals" against this ban. Come on guys, its not the gun ... its the hand behind the gun. I am glad we didnt ban the camera though.
Anonymous Sep 18, 2012 08:28am
A leading news channel posted news about the YouTube ban on their Facebook page, along with the question: was it the right move by the government? More than anything itself, I was deeply shocked by the 500 or so comments below that post. An overwhelming majority declared it the right move, some argued that it should've been done earlier, some even asserted that this action is not enough! Pakistan is heading in the wrong direction. I hear people talking about improving access to education but I believe that would solve nothing because our approach to education itself is wrong. I'm sure most of those people posting comments have degrees. I am certain that uneducated and simple-minded people might even be less radical than that.
bccream Sep 18, 2012 08:28am
Totally agreed, I am really not sure why can people just not ignore. How hard is it, when something is not true there is no need to get angry and if something is true then you don't have right to get angry.
emory Sep 18, 2012 10:14pm
Are you for real? "spread hatred and instigate simple muslims towards violence" just awesome. It clearly validates what the non-muslim world perceives -muslims are inherently violent, all they need is a third rate docu/movie to get their pants in a knot and go around like pyromaniacs with a lust for blood an destruction. Did you say you were a lawyer. God help your clients!
Cyrus Howell Sep 18, 2012 10:40pm
"........ Ask yourself what your Principles are." Or maybe that could be a bad idea.
Akka Sep 18, 2012 04:36pm
I have serious doubts regarding the sunnah you refer to. Please give references. Please also give references to the Quran regarding your ambiguous fatwa that something is 'haram'
Waqar Ahmad Sep 18, 2012 10:59am
This entire article seems baseless. It only points out only banning youtube is wrong..that to some extent one can argue. I think youtube on first hand could have been asked to itself remove all such stuffs, if not agreed must be banned. Primary considerations should have been given to motive, intention and action of video maker instead of production itself..that was to ridiculously blaspheme prophet, spread hatred and instigate simple Muslims towards violence and see puppetry silence of heads of all Muslim countries, who could have initiated internationally through UN for promulgation of a uniformed blasphemy law in the world for greater harmony and peace in all countries where in the name of terror, hatred speech and even in some form of blasphemy laws already exist. Waqar Ahmad Also Lawyer from Germany
Sharin Sep 18, 2012 01:27pm
Addition: The first,two or three comments that i'd read till i was following the story.
Leopard Sep 18, 2012 03:43pm
Banning video or not banning video. It is a fact the true searcher can find any thing on internet. However I would like to mention an other aspect. Point which innocent Muslims are not understanding that by such acts the enemies of Islam provoke the sentiments of Muslims and force them to indulge in to a rash and aggressive reaction. In all such activities including this recent one these enemies of Islam have been very successful. The aggressive reaction shown by Muslims is then taken to further spread the anti Islamic propaganda. For such occasions,teachings of prophet of Islam (pbuh) are entirely different. Sensible, rationale and logical approach is to curb such acts/propaganda by highlighting the noble aspects of Seerat of Prophet of Islam (pbuh). Protest letters/faxes/ emails to US authorities and to other heads of Christian countries/media houses is another wise move which can be undertaken. Resort to violent protests and atrocities against innocent people is a reaction which at least real teachings of Islam can never justify. Hopefully so called Muslim Leaders pledging revenge and promoting violence will pay heed to this aspect.
irfan ali Sep 19, 2012 03:05am
Agree but not everyone knows how to download a movies via any torrents site. This is good to block You tube as the whole world even white house at self has requested them to remove the move or block the contents to alteast muslim countries. We should not use you tube and google anymore .there are more search engins which can be used as alternate option . I am requesting all muslims not to use any American product untill it is very much required. Regards Ali
waqar Sep 19, 2012 01:06am
ur blogs n features r not working. go n check the poll results on ur home page, even liberal muslims can not tolerate this. u ppl can not die for Prophet but can die for youtube.
punevision Sep 18, 2012 12:51pm
The movie (if you can call it that) is ridiculous. Idiotic guy probably wanted some free publicity for himself. Yes, it was a deliberate attempt to offend Muslims and people around the world stood to the occassion and gave it totally undeserved due. What worries me now that some smarter bigot will learn a lesson and produce a movie that will be really offensive. People who hate other religions are plentyful in this world. The producer of this movie wasn't the first or the last who hates Muslims. And there is no dearth of people who hate Christianity and Hinduism and so I suspect that we are going to see a flood of such hate movies. I am a Hindu but I don't think that I will be terribly annoyed if some idiot decides to make a movie insulting Hinduism. One cannot expect 7 billion people to be nice to each other and respect each other all the time. Religious hatrade is very common and probably a very human trait. So as long as the humanity exists, such hatrade and distrust will exist. Its about time we learn to live with that and not give undue credit to every small hateful person.
Naga Dhanorkar Sep 18, 2012 05:12pm
I've also visited his trash site. Wasn't so liberated though. And don't try to act
Ali Sep 18, 2012 01:55pm
No Adeeb. It's not that simple. Youtube is not just for all those who keep sitting in front of computers.
Ali Sep 18, 2012 01:53pm
I don't get it where are we all heading as a nation. This is seriously disturbing.
baakhlaq Sep 18, 2012 02:54pm
I wonder how badly &deeply we are addicted to this You tube.Why we can't do without it and how putting a ban on it is a misdirected effort.IF Americans can put sanctions against different countries without rhyme or reason then why the muslims should not even protest when their sacred beliefs are ridiculed.
Faiza Sep 18, 2012 08:48am
Thanks so much for putting this into words....these r my thoughts exactly...y do v become a source of free publicity for any abominable content on the web.....had it not been for the violent protests, a very few people would have known about the video, but now thanks to guardians of Islam, the whole world knows that our beloved Prophet (pbuh) has been ridiculed.....Its a pity that our actions are causing disrespect for our Prophet (pbuh)....the noblest man who ever lived
Usman Sep 18, 2012 09:07am
we are a bunch of religion obsessed fanatics always finding a justification to vent our frustrations, and always end up making a big mockery of ourselves. Your article makes perfect sense, but we will never understand. We are a hopeless case, but at least I am glad to see a moderate, sensible and truthful lawyer! Maybe you should consider change of profession :)
E Sep 18, 2012 09:09am
partly agree, but my friend you do not tend to forget or function in your mind what you hear or see. Many pakistani's unlike you would not be able to find a torrent or perhaps a website that exceeds the banning filters. However, when they will see the video as conveniently by just visiting as most popular video unlike you it will have an effect on hearts and soul due to the "Nahusat" of the words that are used. Thus it is better to bar those who could atleast be barred. Regards
Whatever Sep 18, 2012 05:01pm
So tell these ignorant masses what you know more. What is haram? What has our prophet of peace and compassion stated as haram? Did he say to kill or burn or hurt those who said anything about him? Did he do anything like this to anyone who said bad things to him? Go ahead, tell people what quran says to do in a situation like this. You will go through again and again and find only that Allah takes care of those who blaspheme and hurt our prophet's reputation or religion, not man! You ask to be guided on the right path, you have to read and understand yourself first and then you will be guided.
NNi Sep 18, 2012 09:30am
Very well said....If there is fundamentally no issue with Islam, then why those who follow it behave like goons.....I understood it well after going thru Mr. Ali Sina's website...If you want to understand in detail about Islam, do pay a visit to his site.....You will be liberated...
Bill Maher Sep 19, 2012 10:20am
"People whose job is just to sit behind computers will feel bad about it. My advice is,
Virkaul Sep 20, 2012 06:11am
Why is one always called IGNORANT, if he thinks differently? Curiosity and critical thinking has led human beings to major inventions. Blocked minds breed ignorance.
Virkaul Sep 20, 2012 06:05am
It sure is. Don't fly or ride car, no medication, to medical investigation, no suit and tie, no gillette, no make up cosmetics, no cameras, no tv, no watches, no rifles, ammunition etc., and the list goes on. Sep 20, 2012 01:47am
This Ghazi guy is my hero in the whole wide world. I hope all Pakistanis think like him. Bravo, Ghazi! Sep 20, 2012 01:44am
Then in that case, boycotting US products will not work because Pakistan will not be able to defend itself, factories will stop, trains will stop, planes will stop, there won't be much grains and food to eat. The only thing that is completely secure is the atmi hatyar, but it is not gonna be used for any purpose. Sep 20, 2012 01:38am
Yes, you must ignore and carry on and continue to suffer. Great suggestion, brother. The country owes you a great favor for coming up with such a gem.
Bill Maher Sep 19, 2012 06:36pm
Pls turn off your electricity, laptop, iPod/pad. And then, pls do not eat any processed food, fly, drive and store your food. The technology that you are using to ask others not to use: computers, cars, airplanes, refrigerators were invented by the west (Mostly US)
Vikram Sep 19, 2012 01:45pm
This is the cheapest and easiest way to destroy the Islamic world. Make the most feeble film ever made, draw a couple of cartoons and watch them destroy themselves. Muppets
yaldram Sep 19, 2012 01:28pm
i can't disagree with the tolerance and ignoring the prankster part. but banning serves a great deal in removing the access of this controversial provocative content to most pple likely to proceed to violence after watching this clip, who are ("you knw why") NOT very apt with internet. they are restricted to title wise search on google or youtube but not used to searching for torrents. pple like us, me you and most of the readers even if they see such absurd provocation, they'll ignore it... so ban's justified as long as youtube does not act in favor of demands from this particular territory.
Ejaz Sep 19, 2012 01:26pm
It is utterly useless and immature response to ban the Youtube due to a silly movie that is of no consequence to Islam, its Prophet or Muslims. This movie can be viewed either as blasphemous or just nonsense. In both cases the response to the matter shall be in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Prophet about whom this movie is a about. In the first case it shall be just ignored and no reaction whatsoever be displayed just as he did in his time when subjected to taunts and verbal atrocities by the Meccans. In the second case it shall just be ignored according to his teachings, where he advised his followers to gracefully ignore the situations and stay out of the fray. We should remember that reason for the creation of such material is to instigate the Muslims. If they play along this script, they have just helped their enemies accomplish what they wanted to achieve. The protests, processions, shootings, killings and suicides will just encourage the enemies of Islam to produce more of such material. It is the cheapest method for them to destroy what is left of the Islamic Fabric.
Muhammad Amir Sep 19, 2012 01:22pm
This movie is an utter disgrace made by some raving lunatic to say the least. I would urge my fellow Muslims not to waste time and give so much attention to absolute rubbish, rather mind our own business by following the path of Rasool Allah (S.A.W).
pcoverclock Sep 19, 2012 12:20pm
Thumbs up for alvin and well said @beg.
MR Sep 19, 2012 12:15pm
Our major problem is we don't even understand the basic teaching of our religion, practicing is not even a question here, however, we keep on debating and arguing for one or the other reasons, this we muslims love it.
Rizwan Sep 19, 2012 12:14pm
Very well said bro. JazakAllah. To all the liberals: I feel ashamed that we Muslims are not even prepared to sacrifice least of our pleasure for the sake of our beloved Prophet (PBUH).
Khan Sep 19, 2012 12:12pm
wow, if only we had more people thinking like you. Totally agree with you.
MR Sep 19, 2012 12:06pm
Our major problem is we don't even understand the basic teaching of our religion, practicing is not even a question here, however, we keep on debating and arguing for one or the other reasons, this we muslims love it. Infact debating is very productive if we come to some positive conclusions, but sadly speaking we debate to show wrong is right and right is wrong. This is indeed another form of fitnah in the the end of times.
MR Sep 19, 2012 12:02pm
read my comments made to Akka.
MR Sep 19, 2012 12:01pm
Dear Akka, do not misunderstood my explanation, responsibility being a Muslim as per sunnah I meant how we should react in the case of Tauheen-e-Risalat, off course killing, damaging properties is way against the teaching and its totally insane. By referring Haram I meant videos/entertainment channels, this is certainly Haram as per the teaching of our prophet Muhammad (PBUH). Our major problem is we don't even understand the basic teaching of our religion, practicing is not even a question here, however, we keep on debating and arguing for one or the other reasons, this we muslims love it. Infat debating is very productive if we come to some positive conclusions, but sadly speaking we debate to show wrong is right and right is wrong. This is indeed another form of fitnah in the the end times.
AHA Sep 19, 2012 10:37am
I disagree. 99.9%.
Khaleel Sep 19, 2012 07:47am
Usman dear you are also senseless like the lawyer, what is moderate ? is it moderate that your sisters, mother enjoy with others by saying moderate time and following no rules? than what will be the future of our next generation? Please correct your direction in the right way if you want to be a muslim and muslim till the end of this life
rahul Sep 19, 2012 03:18pm
what is God?the infinite the omni present , the absolute.What is disrespect?an action or word on other side of the point of view not acceptable to the other side.What are the either side?the relative side of the absolute..If you really believe in absolute then logic dictates that you do not believe in either side of the absolute.Like Krisha said in Geeta-the best of men and the worst of gambles is no body but me in my several manifestations.Please ignore the disrespect to your God-God is beyond respect and disrespect and to chain him down to human limitations is belittle his stature and utterly absurd.No body can disrespect any thing truly great
AK Sep 19, 2012 02:02pm
I don't agree with the ban on youtube but i do agree with showing a firm reaction on how we feel on an issue that pains us. Of course our reaction should not hurt innocents. Consumer boycott is one good civil way to register a protest. However to all the liberals who are harping about why Muslims only react this way... please understand that mobs all over the world act irrationally especially in places where government writ is weak... and that has nothing to do with religion. There have been cases in the west where fans of football teams have attacked each other in post game riots and people have died. Racial abuses have resulted in riots too. Remember what happend in London just last year. I'm sure you understand the love/respect that a Muslim has for the Prophet is far more than the love a football fan has for his team or a person for his race. Also note that there has been no violent protest in Saudi, Gulf, Malaysia, Turkey etc... not because people love the Prophet any less there but because govt writ is strong.
common man Sep 19, 2012 01:57pm
Isn't the computer you are using invented in the US, the TV, car, phone, internet, fridge, bulb, all of these american or western inventions? Respect others, be kind, be grateful for what they have give us. Look into your soul for answers. Don't get carried away by religious fanaticism.
bob Sep 19, 2012 05:13am
peace can be achieved only when u show the other, after getting beaten on one cheek. Not when people have an eye for eye attitude.
John Farnsworth (Australia) Sep 19, 2012 05:12am
I watched the movie. It is pathetic. I'm not sure what you muslims are getting excited about. I would ignore it and get on with my life.
mariam Sep 19, 2012 05:02am
a senseless movie and the actions of an 11 year old girl can create havoc in only a country like Pakistan.What a shame.
Mobeen Sep 19, 2012 01:51pm
When you talk about revenge and that emotions SHOULD dominate, i wonder if you really imagine your relationship with the Prophet SAW a father-son one. It isn't. Ans yes if a street joker did what you wrote any sane person would ignore it. The problem is not about individual emotions. its about losing your senses as a nation. The problem is anyone who advocates peace is believed to be a lower-level muslim than the "righteous' idiots who burn and kill their own people during these mass protests. Or maybe we are just donkeys with no sense of our own and will walk whichever way the whip swings.
Sue Sturgess Sep 19, 2012 04:24am
Without all of the protests, most people would never have heard of this movie, let alone watched it. I watched it today just to see what all the fuss was about
Sue Sturgess Sep 19, 2012 04:23am
This movie was one man's attempt at satirical humour.Similarly the old Monty Python movie, The Life of Brian was a satire on Christianity, yet the Christians did not create such an uproar. Banning the media that delivers undesirable content is not the answer. You don't ban TV just because of a few bad shows, you don't ban newspapers because some articles are offensive, you don't eliminate books, because some do not agree with your ideas. There are many offensive video clips on You Tube. The simple answer is not to watch them - unpopular video clips do not last long and will soon die a natural death
ck67 Sep 19, 2012 04:14am
Video is still there, noone is pulling it down. Muslims need to make them strong first before demanding other to do this or that. USA not going to ask youTube to pull down the video. 52 Muslims countries even if join together can not do anything to USA., and USA knows that very well.