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Who are you trying to appease?

Published Aug 24, 2012 01:51pm


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Are human lives less important than samosas and ostriches? Apparently, it seems this just might be the case in Pakistan. Why else would government leaders along with the Chief Justice have the time to pass rulings and notices on these and stay silent on the Shia killings taking place in the country?

Imagine being a parent on a bus, going home to meet your children. Imagine being a youth on a bus, going to find a better job in another city. Imagine being a patient on a bus, going for treatment to a better hospital. Imagine being pulled out of the bus then and shot dead. Why? Because some men weren’t too happy with your religious affiliation and since your name seemed to confirm your association with a particular sect, the men didn’t think you really deserved a chance to live longer.

Are you terrified of what you just imagined? How much more terrifying is it to know that this is the reality today in Pakistan? At least it was for those 20 Shia passengers who lost their lives in the Mansehra attack. Sadly, the UN Chief seemed to be the only chief ‘appalled’ at this tragedy. No government chief and no judiciary chief seemed to share Ban Ki-Moon’s sentiments. They never do when it comes to these killings – these killings of innocent members of the Shia sect, who are pulled out on the street and shot dead or when Hazaras in Quetta are targeted randomly. And no, politicians tweeting “outraged by attack” doesn’t cut it.

No suo moto action from the Chief Justice, no condemnation from the president, prime minister or opposition leaders. Why? Which group are they trying to appease with their silence? Where are the sit-ins and the dharnas and the “iron-fist” dealings on these killings? As pointed out in Dawn’s recent editorial, if there could be swift response on the Salala attacks, why is there sheer silence and apathy on the Mansehra killings? Why are some lives more important and others less? Who decides this? Does condemning these attacks or taking action against sectarian violence have no place on their agenda? Is security for all not in national interest?

The time has come where changing routes of buses carrying Shia travelers and providing security to these vehicles is not enough – neither will conspiracy theories featuring our favourite “foreign elements” pacify the masses. The government, the law enforcement agencies and the judiciary need to realise that their silence and indifference to these human lives are costing the nation heavily.

Finding out who is instigating, arranging, funding and provoking such attacks is only a small part of the solution. The bigger priority needs to be placed on the plan to stop these attacks and targeted killings. And if the government and security agencies are not willing to do that, they might as well follow former Prime Minister Gilani’s example and openly declare that “those who wish to leave can leave.”

At least that way, every minority, every sidelined sect and anyone else who doesn’t conform to the majority (or favoured) group will know that they have been left to their own devices and now saving their life is up to them – not the state. For it seems that the state has already started the process of abandonment.


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Muhammed Aug 25, 2012 03:22pm
I agree with "Chamman" and "Ahmad Butt". Education alone can not solve it. It is the Implementation of Law (to its true Spirit) can solve it. But that is also linked to culture of our Society (in which Corruption has become an INTEGRAL Part) - which breaks the FABRICS of a CIVIL SOCIETY. People with SENSE (education or non-educated) can solve it - if Power is transferred to them.
LailaC Aug 25, 2012 03:54pm
@Asad Shairani What took so late in condemning these acts? Imran and Altaf finally woke up from their beauty sleep. Altaf is living in UK as leader, so his words means zero.
Ejaz Aug 24, 2012 05:57pm
There is the problem of tyranny by majority in Pakistan. They are destroying everything other than their own. Perhaps one can see that the concept of Pakistan though had some merits is not viable. Let this corrupt state collapse and merge back into India, where at least the government will not become party to the persecution of the minorities and those that are few in number may live in peace.
Raj Aug 25, 2012 03:35pm
Don't worry their numbers are also coming. One day they are one of the killed people because this madness if not stopped by now will create a havoc and eat everybody who are silent. This is a disintegration of a country called "PAKISTAN"
Keti Zilgish Aug 25, 2012 08:17am
"Where are you going to run to when THE VOICE says COME?"
Ali Aug 25, 2012 09:09am
We really need to revisit our relationship with Saudi Arabia....thats the only solution
Akhter Husain Aug 25, 2012 08:30am
With all sympathies to dead ones'families,these killings are for expansions and power which the killers are unable to achieve with education and hard, intelligent work These people have been doing this since centuries and know no other way to prosper.May God give them some Aqal.
Keti Zilgish Aug 25, 2012 07:17am
Banning the usage of loudspeakers for religious purposes is one practical solution to this problem.
Sunny Aug 24, 2012 05:59pm
Let us see people who were responsible for making Pakistan and what happened to them.. Mhd Ali jinnah - Shia.. any doubt pls read article again Bengali - No more with us.. had to fight for their identity from day one Ahemdiyas - No more Muslim... Qadiyani - No more Muslim Pastun - Gifted with Drone love shower
ibraheem Aug 24, 2012 05:50pm
every loss can be retrieved but loss of life can never .........
Muhammed Aug 25, 2012 03:18pm
i agree with you Razzaq - we (Pakistanies) are living a dillusional life - where everyone thinks that they are the Only solutions to World's problems and are Champion of everything....
Raj Aug 25, 2012 03:38pm
They do not need outsider to brake the country they are enough to disintegrate themselves
Muhammad Nawaz Aug 25, 2012 09:21am
Well narrated, Unfortunately whenever such tragic incident happens our politicians never go beyond condemning. There is no value of a human life in Pakistan.
Shahzad Aug 24, 2012 05:58pm
Absolutely True. In addition, CJ would not make USA angry as well, that's why he did not took action on Raymond Davis case as well.
Keti Zilgish Aug 25, 2012 07:42am
Agreed 100 %.
generalcuriosity Aug 24, 2012 03:05pm
I would like to agree to your comment, but the lack of satisfactory action on the Gujarat massacres in India prevents me.
myself Aug 25, 2012 10:00am
We should stand together as People of Pakistan and protect every single Pakistani who is born of this land, may that be a Shia, Sunni, Ahmedi, Christian or Hindu, regardless...
Rao Aug 25, 2012 07:38am
Manish, what is your analysis of shia-sunni conflict in country with highest Muslim population, Indonesia? Or how about Malaysia? Bangladesh? I had to crack laughing at you putting India in line with UK, USA, Germany, Finland :) you are too naieve to comment on international conflicts.
Lyra Aug 25, 2012 11:08am
"live" in this country? did u mean.. "die" in this country?
Jamshed Khan Aug 25, 2012 07:27am
We are failed generations, one after the other - short-sighted and busy in personal greed and service, faling to understand that without a strong country and an all-inclusive nation we are nothing. We should blame ourselves for all the troubles and nobody else.
Keti Zilgish Aug 25, 2012 07:30am
As suspicious and contemptuous as i am of all hierarchies why does it appear to the world as if there are no courts in Pakistan below the Supreme Court? My answer is that the lower courts are there but meant for the service of capital. Legal profession is guilty of this crime!
Faheem Aug 24, 2012 06:59pm
I want to appreciate writer! god bless you. Sab ne choorian pehen rakheen hain
AHA Aug 24, 2012 07:10pm
So true.
Mukesh Aug 24, 2012 07:15pm
As per my opinion this is a social issue and social changes do not come overnight. To start with - the govt has to (A) Change the constitution so that everyone has equal rights irrespective of religion (B) Ban all illegal weapons (c) Undertake all religious teachings in the hands of govt - this will prevent fanatics to preach voilence in the disguise of religion and promote the soft side of Islam like love and compassion (D) Go hard on terrorists. (H) Ban all public display of voilence like open slaughter of animals. With rthis implemented you will start seeing the results in 10 years or so
A.B Moondra Aug 24, 2012 07:55pm
If we follow former Prime Minister Gilani
Azhar Aug 26, 2012 09:56am
Article is very well written by all standards. You should check your own writing, it is in fact very poorly written.
MAC Aug 24, 2012 12:26pm
Suo moto actions are taken by CJ only where he can get a lot of publicity. By taking a suo moto action against Shia killings, he will make many in Pakistan angry, so CJ does not care about this. The same applies to the politician and government ministers etc. He often talks of killings in Baluchistan giving the impression that rest of the country is a safe heaven. Every one in Pakistan is playing politics and poor people dying every day. Donot have any hope that something will change for better.
ahmad butt Aug 24, 2012 12:24pm
I was debating with my friends over the CJP Iftikhar Chaudry questioning PEMRA chief, where he was highly critical and reminded him of his negligence, and wondered whether he will ever gather the courage to ask the senior FC corp commander, DG ISI General Salam and the COAS himself Mr.Kayani and remind them of their duties of national security and their performance, and give them a reminder that are not doing a good job. In the discussion and various counter-arugments the end result; it was getting late, a few mobile calls from our family members came and we got reminded that it was getting dark and time to head home has arrived. As i was going home, I saw a sharp irony of us not being safe, how can we lament on the plight of our Shia community and the army.
Cyrus Howell Aug 24, 2012 05:21pm
What Pakistan needs is a Chief Wizard.
VA Aug 24, 2012 12:48pm
Merge with India everything will become ok. Pak is not required.
yusuf khan Aug 24, 2012 12:45pm
In India there is a sizable shia community but here you never see such dastardly acts. Sunnis and Shias live together as Muslims only and believe me average Indian never knows that there are some differences of rituals between the two. In my view an average Sunni will never support such killings. The hate mongers in Pakistan form groups just to eliminate certain communities, which is a big problem. When your govt has failed in maintaining ordinary law and order, how can they control these killers. This problem will persist for long and numerous Shias may suffer in future. The best possible solution is either to migrate to India, Iran or every Shia move with some ammunition to defend himself.
Aamir Aug 26, 2012 12:08am
Thank you DAWN for not being jang.
Aamir Aug 26, 2012 12:07am
These killings are conducted by Lashka-e-Jhangvi whose leader, Molana Ishaq was released on bail last year. Exactly after his bail, such incidents started in Quetta and now in Gilgit area. Ishaq has more than 50 murders and was given death sentence by high court, SC sent him on bail quoting lack of evidence. LJ is sipah e sahaba outfit from whom PML-N benefits and Nawaz has influence on Iftekhar Chaudhary. Now do you get a clear picture. It was apparent that his release will increase such incidents, so it is quite possible that CJ was already taken into confidence not to take notice of such things, meanwhile, SC can take notices on sugar prices.
Ghani Aug 26, 2012 01:06am
Iran is creating lots of problems in the region, it should stop interfering in neighbouring countires.
Ghani Aug 26, 2012 01:10am
even though the writer is based in Karachi, but didnt mentioned the killings of Sunnis in the city what a hypocriacy
Ashna Aug 26, 2012 01:28am
Don't criticize on others, if you have capacity write a good one from your side on the same subject, let the people see how much sympathetic words your have?
Rao Aug 25, 2012 05:57pm
That's what I wanted to say, I am not sure why some countries have these shia-sunni but countries with similar attributes do not have any conflicts. Only thought that comes to my mind is that whichever Muslim country has external enemies, has these shia-sunni internal conflits. Other than this, I am not sure. I heard from people from Iraq that shia-sunnis used to live in harmony without ever worrying about the differences before Iraq was invaded. There were inter sect marriages and many people even did not know that they are different. I would definitely blame it on the internal fire of the nation and external wind for the disasters.
LailaC Aug 25, 2012 03:08pm
Very well said. Jazak Allah
DM Aug 25, 2012 01:15pm
Where pakistan is going.. What the hell pakistani people are doing... People come in masses for opposing drones, supporting blasphemy but no voice for such cruel, inhuman crime.preaching myanmar but can't control our own mob. Pathetic and sarcastic.
abbasi99 Aug 25, 2012 08:16pm
i think the only way to control such outlaws is to make some strict laws which could ban any literature and speeches fanning the fire of hatred and strife.sectarian identity should be erased from any documents.
Ammar Aug 26, 2012 07:48am
first priority is humanity and second is religon why people are being killed on the base of religon? every body has right to live according to his believe and no one can force any one ..........
Qasim Aug 26, 2012 07:32am
Nice advice but except for few condemnatory articles/editorials in English papers, have not seen any rallies, protests, jalsas from the silent majority? Unfortunately we are all silent partners in these crimes.
Qasim Aug 26, 2012 07:29am
Perhaps a good beginning but how would you control the social media; Facebook, Tweeters, YouTube and others? India learned the power of this recently.
Piri Aug 26, 2012 10:08am
That shows that Jinnah was not a visionary. He could not understand that in a country whose foundations were laid on differentiation and hatred for a community, how could he ensure safety for minorities.
Mohammad Hassan Aug 26, 2012 07:00am
Perhaps she was only trying to convey her views, and not aiming for a literary prize.
Syed A, Zafar USA Aug 27, 2012 06:05pm
Dear Ashna! Although the writer seems to be right and logical, but also it gives me a feeling that she is among the lot of those young writers who are for fame and fortune, do not care for professional ethics and what others have to say about issues. You are absolutely right. I wish your suggestion is taken seriously by Dawn's management and its writers/blogger. There was a time, decades ago, when the journalists of high caliber and knowledge used to starve but won't compromise on principles and professional ethics even after their life time services gave them no rewards. And when they were asked: "bhai, aap zameen pe quen hain, toe woh kahtay thay, keh, jahaan sahaafat hai wahaan hum hain" and today: journalism has become an industry of business and politics. It is owned and controlled by corporate mafia, and the journalist know how to cash their needs. I am glad quaid-e-Azam is not alive today to see his newspaper become the voice of corporate heads, some sold out writers and their foreign masters.
imran haider Aug 26, 2012 03:22am
good written article... i can imagine if i am pulled out of a bus and asked for my name....May Allah send wrath on these savage animals...they dont even deserve to be called animals. what a tragedy that even the supreme court doesnt bother to atleast condemn such a heinous act...
Amjad Wyne Aug 26, 2012 02:40am
The question, "if Salala culprits could be arrested then why not the rest".. The answer is simple. Maintaining law and order in the country is the responsibility of the political government (and that includes Salala). But those in Salala knew well that nothing would happen, just as nothing happened in the case of Shia or other killings, if they left it to the political government. So they took the matter in their own hands.
Yawar Aug 26, 2012 02:39am
Clearly that is wrong too. But when you look at the numbers, the number of innocent Shias targeted and killed is much greater than the number of Sunnis.
Ali Aug 25, 2012 05:31pm
Very True Bravo my sister... You are speaking on behalf of thousands of Martyrs and their widows & orphans.
Rao Aug 28, 2012 10:31pm
Manish, Islam is religion of state in Malaysian Constitution there are sharia courts over there. Bangladesh was an Islamic state until 2010 when High Court there made it secular state, there were no problems even 2 years ago in Bangladesh. Islam is also official state religion of UAE, what religion problems you see over there? I stand with my comments that it is not separation of religion and state, it is mix of external involvement PLUS uneducated nation PLUS internal weakness that is causing the conflicts in Muslim nations. I welcome your approach of dis-agreeing, I wish all people could argue like you are doing with numbers and logic.
Akhter Husain Aug 25, 2012 08:00am
I wish it becomes true.
manish Aug 25, 2012 02:08pm
well, Rao, you ended up proving my point. indoneisia(88%), bangladesh(91%) and malaysia(62%) are all secular countries, with majority muslim population. and they have correctly kept religion out of politics....the moment you bring it in, you will poison the environment. however, i must concede, that these countries you mentioned, are really secular, that they escape our attention, and don't fit in the frame of typical muslim countries of middle-east. and yes, next time i would be more careful, while i generalising.
Saeed Rahmani Aug 25, 2012 07:56am
There is a claim by the HCJP in this Paper:Judiciary will go to any extent to implement the constitution.The Constitution guarantees all citizens "right to life" as one of the Fundamental Rights.Then why does the HCJP not take a suo motu notice of the killings of Sheas,as he did of Arsalan Iftikhar case?
Akhter Husain Aug 25, 2012 08:15am
Mr Kazmi you may be right,But illiteracy is not as much responsible as is the poverty and greed. Declare a person KAFIR and dispossess him of his belongings.
H Aug 25, 2012 12:23pm
Topic is good but this article is written very badly, if you want to get your point across do not write articles in the same way you would a high school essay...
Rahman Aug 25, 2012 08:22am
As a Banglafdeshi, I have to tell you ,I have never heard or seen any conflict between the two. We are living together as a Muslim. In majority sunni populated country Bangladesh, we had mayor who used to be a Shia. We do not care about it because we have something else to do for us and our family. Only ignorant people can fight each other.
Faheem Aug 25, 2012 06:50am
Such people are ENEMIES OF PAKISTAN AND HUMANITY and should be dealt with Iron hands.
Moeen Shirazi Aug 25, 2012 05:44am
A very misguided bunch, indeed! These people are an affront to Islam, as Islam is accepting of all religions & sects. Most of these Shia killers are illiterate & indubitably lack the moral authority to be the judge and executioner of their nonsensical views which goes against the tenets of Islam. Evil stems from ignorance! Get rid of ignorance and you will annihilate evil!
true Aug 24, 2012 03:03pm
Well said. Where is CJ Now? He should take suo moto against religious leaders.
K.A.Muhammad Aug 25, 2012 12:43am
K.A.Muhammad, Indeed some independent homeland for Shia Muslims of Sub-Continent to progress and prosper with equal rights which supposedly were denied to them in India of Pre-Partion era! Never meddle with Nature and its affairs! Nature has laid down Principles for Humans to follow in its right perspective. Just imagine if only Shias as a Sect or Community had decided to stay back in India would it have been possible for other Sects to imagine let alone think of creating Pakistan?
AZHAR NAQVI Aug 25, 2012 12:39am
Joe Aug 24, 2012 11:44pm
One keeps hoping, hoping, hoping. So many times, one's hopes are dashed by the corruption and incompetence in high places and ensuing fanaticism in the street. But one must not say "I give up", and must keep expecting the people's better nature to prevail. How long must it take?
G. Thind Aug 24, 2012 11:38pm
I am not a politician and neither I am a Pakistani or Indian but I can tell you India was lucky that hot headed fanatics got out of it of their own in 1947 and it would not touch them again even with a ten foot pole. Now that India is obliged to have trade and liberal person to person contact to please the world opinion it will have to have home land security hundreds of times larger than before. This new
Sikander Abbas Aug 24, 2012 08:40pm
Shyema, very brave of you to write this article. I consider this article as your jihad in the form of writing!
Syed Aug 24, 2012 10:42pm
Did anyone notice in recent times, most contributions on Dawn are coming from within? brave approach though.
Sajjad Aug 24, 2012 10:36pm
Pakistan govt is quiet because they are busy with corruption .They came to power by buying votes and all they are interested in is to get their mony back.I am surprised that even pakistanis are not safe from other pakistanis.Today relegion is the killing motivation .Tomorrow it will be ethinical basis and baluchistan is already bleeding any way?Life has never been so cheap in PK
Umesh Aug 24, 2012 10:16pm
Are you crazy? Who wants to import more problems in India by getting Pakistan to merge? The partition was final and good for both parties. Just accept it and move on.
generalcuriosity Aug 24, 2012 03:07pm
Those who can are already doing so.
Syed Husain Aug 24, 2012 08:38pm
lives of all Humans belonging to all religion and sects are to be respected.
Sikander Abbas Aug 24, 2012 08:34pm
Dear concerned: where are you going to put the population of 30 million shias from Pakistan? How about dividing Pakistan further? Unless and until the shias wont take any action for themselves, nothing will change, they will be just killed brutally by these fanatics. Next will be Ahmadis, hindus and the list goes on.....
Affan Aug 24, 2012 09:20pm
The Shias, Ahmedies, Christians, Hindus, Sikhs and others will have to form their security force to protect all minorities since state has failed to protect all the minorities. Abolish all the laws which discriminate and make laws to hate crimes.
Syed Husain Aug 24, 2012 08:39pm
I completely agree.
Ali Vazir Aug 24, 2012 03:55pm
Sister Shyema Sajjad. What a marvelous effort. You have helped DAWN, dragged out of the arena of condemnation by your nerve wrecking article. Now it is the duty of all those in any position to raise their voices against these terrorists, be them in the politics, bureaucracy, business, workers, labors, students or philanthropists. Remember, God doesn't help those who don't help themselves. Ali Vazir, Congo
Muhammad Asif Aug 24, 2012 12:33pm
Shame on all of us. Shame to all politicians, mullahs and chiefs especially "cheif of justice". We are reluctant to even say bad to bad.
Dr. Boodhun Aug 24, 2012 12:42pm
The signal has to come from the constitution. Eradicate all anti-sectarian law from the constitution. The state should be religion neutral. Otherwise atrocities will continue.
Chaman Aug 24, 2012 12:43pm
Every time a man kills another, a little of me also dies no matter who and where. How shameful and despicable a level people can fall to. God save Pakistan, Pakistanis seem to be unable to.
manish Aug 24, 2012 02:26pm
i am sorry YOUSUF, i may differ from your opinion, but forgive me in advance: SHIA-SUNNI hatred is commonplace, in middle-east, iran, iraq, lebanon, and almost everywhere. only in US, UK, INDIA, GERMANY, FINLAND it doesn't come to surface. because they have someone else to engage with. the moment any of this sect get to the power in any of these countries as a majority, it would signal the end of cordial relations between the two communities. In nutshell, only in a sea of non-muslims can they 'hide' their differences, but in islamic nations they would certainly clash.....
JD Aug 24, 2012 02:27pm
Please read our Quaid quote as what he said on protecting and safeguarding every citizen of Pakistan? It is a shame that our citizen lives are in constant danger, at all times, as we live in a free state that we ALL proudly call Pakistan. 21st March 1948. Mass Rally at Dacca. Let me take this opportunity of repeating what I have already said: We shall treat the minorities in Pakistan fairly and justly. We shall maintain peace, law and order and protect and safeguard every citizen of Pakistan without any distinction of caste, creed or community.
Javed Aug 24, 2012 01:21pm
Shame on the leadership of the country including political leaders, religious leaders, media leaders and chief justice as all of them did not take any notice of the killings of innocent people, who were travelling on a bus to celebrate Eid with their families. The military and police also did not take any action in this regard and allowed the killers to continue their brutal activity.
AHA Aug 24, 2012 07:12pm
The only think that matters to the CJ is the current government. He does not care about anything else.
Chaman Aug 24, 2012 01:24pm
Well said. Not any education but the right one. When the laws of the land are primitive and the people unmindful and uncaring (rich and poor, educated and uneducated) of the barbariansm around, such ghastly events will conitinue to occur.
Sad Ahmed Aug 24, 2012 07:02pm
Is This Islamic Republic Of Pakistan.Allah Says In Glorius Quran There is no compulsion in religion then why we are killing each other in the name of Islam. we have ammasity and anarchy in the country.
Razzaq Aug 24, 2012 07:04pm
Seperating religion from politics is the only solution, because illiterate prople have misused the religion with the help of politicians and have now made a mockery of it.
abc Aug 24, 2012 08:44pm
If they get a choice or chance, then most pakistanis would leave the country, but unfortunately, because of its present situation, there are'nt many takers for paistanis
Yawar Aug 24, 2012 08:27pm
As a Sunni I feel ashamed to belong to a country where such unthinkable actions against minority groups take place on a daily basis. Unfortunately, these fanatics have taken the entire population, including the CJ and other government officials, hostage. Why would the CJ take suo moto notice of these murders when he knows that if he does, he himself and his family would become the next target? Why would anyone organize a dharma or a long march to protest the murders to invite suicide bombers amongst their midst?
Dr. Nouman Kazmi Aug 24, 2012 12:31pm
Pakistan's biggest problem is illiteracy of minds. We have got all our facts wrong. In my view the only way out from this dark age is education.
toseef25 Aug 24, 2012 12:32pm
"Finding out who is instigating, arranging, funding and provoking such attacks is only a small part of the solution." Very true. Also, this can be easily assessed who is being benefited from such incidents!
an ex-citizen Aug 24, 2012 05:43pm
The root of our destruction as a legitimate nation lies, unfortunately, in the mosque, or to be more exact, the people in charge of the mosque. Till we dont have educated clergy with at least a master's degree, the core of our population will be fed personal versions of Islam, which they, the illiterate clergy base on narrow-mindedness, violence, arrogance, sexuality, discrimination and depravation. As far as I know, the average Pakistani does not understand Arabic. Each and every author who has attempted to translate the Quran from Arabic has clarified that their version is an interpretation and not an accurate translation. The clergy has thus taken the liberty of feeding the "faithful" whatever they have deduced resulting in all the evils that are being practised by our "holier than thou" Pakistani muslims. If Islam is what is being practiced in Pakistan today, I can only state that I feel ashamed calling myself a muslim. I know I will have offended the "FUNDOs", but the truth is hard to digest.
Cyrus Howell Aug 24, 2012 05:26pm
We are the best and we can prove it by killing you.
Cyrus Howell Aug 24, 2012 05:24pm
"We want to kill you, but you can't leave." If all the minorities left it would make the government look bad.
Karachi Aug 24, 2012 05:13pm
what about Killings of Sunnis in Karachi just before eid ?
MAC Aug 24, 2012 01:07pm
Either you are acting or totally ignorant: just see how many Muslims have been killed in sectarian violence after the independence. It was quiet common until the times of Indira Gandhi that on each Muslim religious day, there was systematic violence. You may not know but many years ago killing of several hundreds of Muslim children ended up on the cover page of Newsweek International. This does not justify what is happening in Pakistan but do not think that in India situation of Muslims in much better, even Hindus are not living well in various States. Look what is happening in Bangalore these days.
Asad Shairani Aug 24, 2012 12:35pm
Your article has at least a fact wrong, which are making the otherwise strong and valid points seem (more) emotional. I have read statements of condemnation by at least two important politicians. Altaf Hussain and Imran Khan.
Karachi Wala Aug 24, 2012 01:07pm
All the elements in power including CJ, Governtment, All the opposition, All religous parties who remain quite, are part of these barbaric acts. It seems like a far fetched statement but I can assure you their days are numbered. "sab taj uchhale jayenge, sab takht giraye jayenge" Faiz Ahmed Faiz
surinder Aug 24, 2012 04:55pm
I shudder at this thought. NO MERGER PLEASE.
Somia Aug 24, 2012 04:30pm
Which education you are talking! Madrasa
Rao Aug 24, 2012 04:02pm
And you believe me yusuf, that Pakistan never had this problem before. Iraq never had this problem before, Lebanon never had this sunni shia problem before. Nobody had this problem just a few decades ago. I am not saying that its not our fault that we have this problem, there are contributions from others as well.
Rao Aug 24, 2012 03:40pm
Reblogged this on shafiqrao and commented: I am surprised why judiciary and government think that dealing with details of who is supreme more pressing issue than killings of Shias.
Rao Aug 24, 2012 03:38pm
"if there could be swift response on the Salala attacks, why is there sheer silence and apathy on the Mansehra killings?" Enough said! 1 life is equal to 1 life, period.
Masood Hussain Aug 24, 2012 03:38pm
I am eighty years old.During the periodgoal of Pakistan was actively persued I was a college student and an political activist,used to raisr slogans which i am feel ashamed of now. my childrenmake fun of me and they question me often if this was the country ikeep talking of. I tell them promptly, NO it was a dream or what else i should tell them.
dr vimal raina Aug 24, 2012 03:32pm
You are welcome to India.
abdul Aug 24, 2012 02:46pm
I find Pakistani women more tolerant than Pakistani men.
Shridhar Subrahmanyam Aug 24, 2012 02:33pm
Yusuf, Did we not have a Supreme Court Justice a few years back whose last name was Ahmadi? Would he be a Qadiani? Nobody cares and, in fact, one close Muslim friend of mine told me that even marriages between Sunnis and Shias in India is not uncommon.
sunil Aug 24, 2012 01:41pm
What rubbish! Is this what you have to say on such a subject?
MAC Aug 24, 2012 01:41pm
Perhaps we need to understand what is meant by education. Education does not mean getting university degree. Remember Bulleh Shah said centuries ago: ilam parhia te adab na sikhia. Education is the only instrument with which one gets capacity to understand and think about things which are happening around. Of course it all depends if one wants to understand or not, without an effort nothing will happen.
Syed Aug 24, 2012 01:33pm
At the very least these english papers in Pakistan have started to speak out on these attrocities in Pakistan against the Shia muslims. Media please highlight these killings and hopefully this bayhiss quam will wake up and do something about it
shakeel khan Aug 24, 2012 01:29pm
sectarian differences are quite natural because they are born of differences in currents and cross-currents of thinking persons. just like flowers of various colors and shapes and sizes. they are needed to make a beautiful bouquet. the holy Quran says that Allah will clear up all your differences on the day of judgement. so these differences are there to stay. we have to learn to live with them. or else these Mansehra-like tragedies will surface up allover the country, THEREBY MAKING PAKISTAN A LIVING HELL.
Singh Aug 24, 2012 01:29pm
It called lip service.
ahmad butt Aug 24, 2012 01:11pm
Dr.Nouman, when i see affluent and rich people violate traffic signals, throw rubbish from cars,dont give way to pedestrians and stare at the traffic police wardens in major cities of Pakistan, I doubt your comment, education itself isnt the only solution, equality and supremacy of law is. Knowledgeable civilisation have perished succumbing to corruption, nepotism and indulgence, where leaders have considered themselves to supreme above the law and their scope of governance. Im sure there are bright minds, not they are not shining in positions where they can contribute.
Concerned Aug 24, 2012 12:17pm
You are VERY BRAVE to state these facts. I have never been able to understand why Pakistan govt does not allow minority community members who wish to leave voluneerly to do so. After all Pakistan is a democracy. People are not prevented from migrating to western countriees...then why not to India or Iran or Singapore.."