India denies Modi asked Trump to mediate Kashmir dispute
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India's foreign ministry on Monday denied United States President Donald Trump had been asked by Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi to mediate the Kashmir conflict with Pakistan.
Trump made the claim while speaking from the Oval Office where he was hosting Prime Minister Imran Khan.
“We have seen President Trump's remarks to the press that he is ready to mediate, if requested by India and Pakistan, on the Kashmir issue. No such request has been made by Prime Minister Modi to the US President,” said Raveesh Kumar, official spokesman of India's Ministry of External Affairs.
"It has been India's consistent position that all outstanding issues with Pakistan are discussed only bilaterally."
Earlier, during the talk at the White House, Prime Minister Imran said that the US, being the most powerful country in the world, could play the most important role in bringing peace to the subcontinent.
"There are over a billion and quarter people in the subcontinent, they are held hostage to the issue of Kashmir, and I feel that only the most powerful state, headed by President Trump, can bring the two countries together."
In response, Trump said that India had also asked him to mediate.
"I was with Prime Minister [Narendra] Modi two weeks ago. We talked about the subject and he actually said, 'Would you like to be a mediator or arbitrator?'. I said where, he said Kashmir, because it has been going on for many, many years.
"I was surprised to know how long it has been going on. I think they would like to see it resolved, you [Pakistan] would like to see it resolve [...] and if I can help, I would love to become a mediator," said Trump.
Following the rebuttal from India, the US State Department shared a statement by Acting Assistant Secretary Alice Wells: "While Kashmir is a bilateral issue for both parties to discuss, the Trump administration welcomes Pakistan and India sitting down, and the United States stands ready to assist."
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Jul 23, 2019 01:01am
Who is lying Modi or Trump? I am cocksure Modi is lying.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:03am
So India is saying Pres. Trump is lying?
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Jul 23, 2019 01:03am
India will never ask any other country, however well-meaning, to ever mediate in any matters considered internal to the country. India is quite capable of handling all matters related to it. All India wants is good wishes and goodwill from all. Pakistan must cease and desist from asking other nations to solve its own problems. Maturity must be demonstrated from its leaders who otherwise will be shown as people with feet of clay. Using non-state actors (terrorists) from its own population to infiltrate neighboring countries for nefarious activities has cost Pakistan dearly and has made it a global pariah. The time has come for Pakistan to admit that it had erred, and that this is a new day and all such bad behavior will now cease.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:04am
"It has been India's consistent position that all outstanding issues with Pakistan are discussed only bilaterally."
Then why has Kashmir not been solved for 70 years? This is typical Indian gimmick. They say one thing but do something else like staying away from bilateral talks. The world will have to get involve and has a genuine stake in this conflict as it can send the entire world into a nuclear winter.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:06am
So who was lying, Trump or Modi? Neither leader is particularly familiar with the idea of honesty, so it's anyone's guess...
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Jul 23, 2019 01:07am
Two liers. What a picture.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:08am
Who's lying?
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Jul 23, 2019 01:08am
India called the Tempu a LIAR ;-)
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Jul 23, 2019 01:08am
What a contrast here.
All grace from PMIK when greeted by Trump. No shallow acts such as like it or not bear hugs, knuckle-cracking handshakes, pushing other aside to get into picture frames of another PM next door!
Washington acknowledges Pak’s key role in facilitating the Afghan peace negotiations for a peaceful South Asia, where Modi vying to get Pak isolated got himself isolated.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:11am
Well if this is true I doubt the US president would want to be snubbed as mediator.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:11am
Some body is not telling the truth,Mody or Trump !
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Jul 23, 2019 01:13am
Interesting but not surprising. Modi has won the election and realises that to move forward these burning issues need to be solved. It would be great for our region if Khan-Modi combination can bring lasting peace.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:14am
What? you're telling us that the US president is lying?
Well that's gonna go down well with US. That will cost India. One hundred F22 fighter jets to Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:17am
Why would India want someone else to interfere when it is in advantageous position on Kashmir at the moment?
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Jul 23, 2019 01:19am
Typical Indian lies.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:21am
So India is not serious about peace and stability in the region
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Jul 23, 2019 01:24am
Anticipatory remarks
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Jul 23, 2019 01:24am
As usual lying Modi and double talk. No surprise here.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:29am
India is digging it's own grave now.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:30am
This means that Modi doesn't want peace in occupied Kashmir and continue to deprive people from their basic human rights.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:31am
Everyone settle down. Remember, this is Trump. He’ll say whatever suits his interests during the moment. he even praised Kim of N Korea as a nice guy. Didn’t work.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:32am
So one of them is lying.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:33am
There is no way India would have asked for help. We're capable of finding the solution to our own problems.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:33am
It is ok India. Don't be shy.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:40am
Poor trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:40am
That makes sense. It is consistent policy of India. India is in no rush to resolve Kashmir. More ever under Trump, America’s own relationships with other countries has suffered so how can he be a mediator?
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Jul 23, 2019 01:41am
Hope trump clarified his remarks - both can’t be right
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Jul 23, 2019 01:42am
What a curious development that paints Mr. Trump a liar. How does this profit Modii in
his relationship with the United States... Very unusual!
Gordon D. Walker
Canada
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Jul 23, 2019 01:43am
US President is more believable than Modi
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Jul 23, 2019 01:44am
Here India has made the Kashmir issue but when the Sadozia had taken the portion of Azad Kashmir and had further advanced toward the OJK India had run to UN to initiate Pakistan help to stop the advancement.
Currently India had to appeal to the ICJ to have one of their spy that's on the death for promoting terrorism in Pakistan.
Why does India get to call upon a third country or organization to involve when they know Pakistan has an upper hand but not when its see itself with an upper hand on the issue?
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Jul 23, 2019 01:45am
If the US want it to happen it will happen, Pak and India count as diddly. The question is has Mr Trump made up his mind to mediate, if he has then India had no choice but to obey. If India knows what's good for it then India under no circumstances want to get into the crosshair of the US President
India is a nuclear country because of the US and the reason India's star is rising internationally is because of the US. You mess with the US and you will pay a heavy price. Pak has seen how quickly things can turn ugly if you are on the wrong side of the mighty US.
Indian leadership was very nervous after the fall of the Soviets but were very lucky that after the cold war ended Democrats seized the Presidency i.e. Clinton. Clinton had an infatuation with India plus the rise of China complicated things for the US otherwise if the Republicans were still in the office then US would have under no circumstances allowed India to go nuclear and the Kashmir would have been settled in favor of Pak
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Jul 23, 2019 01:49am
India wants to resolve this issue bilaterally. That’s what it tells to the rest of the world, but with whom, if it does not talk to Pakistan on this issue.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:51am
Trump could not resolve tariff dispute with India, could not stop it from buying Russian weapons like S-400. How he can mediate? Indian policy been very consistent.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:51am
I firmly believe that President Trump is telling the truth. Mr. Modi is known to be double talker surely a fake as a three dollars bill.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:53am
If trump lying in today press conference about modi statement regarding Kashmir issue than he should go in international court and clarify his statement
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Jul 23, 2019 01:54am
Imran Khan should cash in Mr. Trump's promise to help Pakistan in coming days. Remember, time is now.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:54am
‘"It has been India's consistent position that all outstanding issues with Pakistan are discussed only bilaterally."
How, modi said he was going to isolate pakistan. Make up your mind, you are confused and making a fool of yourselves. The world has moved on, india has not.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:56am
I can only laugh at India at this moment.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:57am
Grab the offer Modiji, grab it. Even we Indians want Kashmir resolved ,once and for all. No point in giving our narrative, no one believes it anymore.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:05am
These developments sign towards an extension. Otherwise, such exhaustive diplomatic efforts wouldn't be made.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:05am
Did India just call Trump a liar?!
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Jul 23, 2019 02:17am
ofcourse Endians will deny...but Khan has gained from all this..
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Jul 23, 2019 02:22am
Even US refused that Trump has offered any mediation role.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:23am
Why Modi make fool of himself. Rahul would have had more dignity.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:23am
Wait for official statement from State department of usa.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:26am
No third party mediation.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:29am
Imran played a master stroke asking Trump to mediate at the presss conference making Trump to spill the beans. This has now created a diplomatic issue for India for sure
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Jul 23, 2019 02:35am
Modi only runs to a mediator when Pakistan captures its spy\ terrorist.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:39am
according to india freedom act passed by british parliament in 1947 .the kashmir is part of india.who questined this act they also questionef the formation of Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:42am
Trump does not know that Kashmir was already resolved 70 years ago.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:45am
When Modi himself is saying that he never asked US President Donald Trump to use his good offices to mediate Kashmir issue between Pakistan and India then how did Donald Trump was quoting about settlement of Kashmir issue?
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Jul 23, 2019 02:48am
What else can the racist, liar, cunning, prejudiced, bigot and biased Modi and his corrupt, crooked, cruel and "U-turn" expert cronies say at this crucial juncture in time and history?
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Jul 23, 2019 02:48am
India stance is consistent since beginning. Nobody can change it.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:49am
The world doesn't take Mr Trump seriously, so better to ignore his offer and comments
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Jul 23, 2019 02:49am
for some reason I believe Trump and not India on this. Indians just try to show themselves as powerful whenever it comes to Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:49am
If DT does mediate and it results in a peaceful settlement he would be a candidate for the Nobel Peace prize.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:50am
What else would you expect from India? Indian government is nothing but a bunch of liars. Modi pleaded Trump to intervene and now denying.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:53am
India's population - 1.34 billion
Pakistan's population - 212 million
That makes 1.55 billion. Someone please give the correct facts to PMIK. And of the 1.55 billion, only 212 million Pakistanis want the US to do their bidding vis-a-vis India. We Indians need nobody to intercede on our behalf.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:59am
Are the Indians suggesting that Trump is a liar?
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Jul 23, 2019 03:02am
Who care about Trump. India has set policy. Modi can never ask for mediation from third party. India has 1971 Simla agreement before they returned 95,000 Pakistani soldiers.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:03am
Resolution of dangerous disputes are not in the interest of big army supply powers.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:05am
Is India calling Trump a liar?
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Jul 23, 2019 03:15am
Trump takes no prisoners good luck India perhaps u shudnt have lied so much and bought the s400
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Jul 23, 2019 03:17am
President Trump is lying as he is prone to, and known to do quite often. Mr. Modi is too astute a person to say something silly like that which is adverse to India's longstanding stance on the subject of Kashmir. seems like Mr.Trump is dreaming of somehow garnering a Nobel Prize for himself. Well, i have news for Mr. trump "it ain't gonna happen."
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Jul 23, 2019 03:17am
Khan and Trump should get noble peace prize for solving Kashmir #khantrumpnoblepeacekashmir
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Jul 23, 2019 03:19am
I am a Pakistani, and frankly I trust Modi is telling the touchy. The US President is just trying to score some points to influence IK for further discussion on Taliban situation.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:31am
Someone is not telling the truth.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:36am
Everyone knows Trump.
And everyone knows Modi.
Everyone knows whocakn make a diplomatic gaffe
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Jul 23, 2019 03:38am
Trump is again bluffing as always. India position has always been NOT to involve a mediator in Kashmir issue. From Indias perspective they consider Kashmir an integral part of India. It is the poor Kashmiris who are suffering with this attitude of India.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:39am
In many ways Mr Trump is also a u-turn president.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:40am
I believe in my PM than US president
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Jul 23, 2019 03:41am
trump is trying to measure the water..
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Jul 23, 2019 03:42am
Well done Delhi. Loud and clear. Leave no chance for spin masters.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:46am
can you believe what trump says
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Jul 23, 2019 03:48am
A genuine, a kind, an honest and caring leader PM Khan. We have not seen or had any leader who puts Pakistan and its people above him as IK does.
Opposition and corrupt people of Pakistan, it is time for you guys to shut your mouths.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:48am
trump just sent Mr. Modi to destination F'd
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Jul 23, 2019 03:51am
Crystal clear.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:54am
Trump has not come out of his habit of saying something just out his mind . He always like to say something stupid and then next day he realise his mistake.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:54am
No one including himself do not believe that he was asked to meditate and he has no real interest to resolve this!
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Jul 23, 2019 03:59am
Tables are turning in Pakistans favour
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Jul 23, 2019 04:00am
Mr. Trump is known for taking credit for everything that happens in the world.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:01am
President Trump's words are very clear. Was this spokesman with the two heads when the exchange between them took place? Does he understand or appreciate implication of what he has said?
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Jul 23, 2019 04:02am
Maybe it was Modis Indian accent which led Trump to believe he is wanting US to resolve the Kashmir issue
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Jul 23, 2019 04:13am
Trump is a congenital liar; Modi will never ever ask his help in Kashmir.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:18am
As usual India went into denial mode.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:23am
Mr President has definitely reserved his place in history of USA, children will be learning about him for centuries to come.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:27am
Trump's hallucinating....... for sure getting too old to remember....
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Jul 23, 2019 04:28am
Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:31am
Love every moment of it. President of the US made the statement on national TV networks, India denying it !
Wait for Trump 's tweet, beginning of an interesting exchange.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:33am
so the Indians are calling president Trump a liar.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:33am
Nice picture of Modijee hugging Trump. I can clearly see a laugh on Trumps face.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:41am
Trump a big time liar. Modi has a strong personality can handle Pakistan alone without the help of a fake US president.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:43am
Modi is different in public
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Jul 23, 2019 04:47am
Now Pakistanis will surely trust what trump said!
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Jul 23, 2019 04:49am
There starts the effect of Khan's diplomacy .
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Jul 23, 2019 04:53am
My fellow Indians, we have been exposed, we must give in. We have lost, we have to focus on ourselves and improve our country. We must stop commenting on Pakistani websites and improve our country, we are poor and hungry.
Pratek Himanshu
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Jul 23, 2019 05:04am
Trump is a certified liar. He scoffs at the truth and has contempt for it. He has uttered over 10,000 lies since he became US President according to scorecards kept by American newspapers.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:05am
It seems some one is day dreaming. :-)
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Jul 23, 2019 05:10am
Finally US get to know how big of liars Indians are.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:26am
Trumps involvement in any situation will only make it worse. The World will be a better place without him in it.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:30am
Modi could have clarified it himself if it was false claim by president Trump. I’m sure modi asked trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:32am
Kashmir issue not even mentioned in the official statement between US and Pakistan. Where is the question of mediation.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:33am
The purpose of visit is effectively served
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Jul 23, 2019 05:42am
You heard that he also mentioned access from India to Afganistan. They are related. A deal is possible now. PMIK/COAS, Modi and Trump together can do it. This is a big opportunity if India and Pakistan could manage their public perception
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Jul 23, 2019 05:43am
Both Modi & Trump are known for their lies. So we would never know who is lying here
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Jul 23, 2019 05:45am
There are papers in USA that track number of official lies and misstatements by Trump. After his two years in office, these now run into thousands.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:48am
A master move by IK. India has to now say either Modi is a liar or Trump is lying.
India just got hit for a six!
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Jul 23, 2019 05:49am
India and Pakistan will settle it of their own.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:53am
Bilateral agreements have no value if it contradicts the United Nations Resolutions. So India should stop hiding behind a single agreement and face the reality and get this Kashmir issue resolved so we Kashmir's can finally live in peace. Enough of our suffering, we need a solution to this, India has already murdered thousands of our people, and sadly Indians just celebrate when we Kashmirs get killed or get blinded. Even though the UN resolution says we got the right to our self determination. Do you really think after all this atrocities, we would want to join your cruel country?
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Jul 23, 2019 05:57am
So, also white house has not mentioned Trump's remarks in press release. India has officially called him a liar.
Seems that he spoken up too much in excitement that he started making up things.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:00am
In your dreams!
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Jul 23, 2019 06:01am
Salute to Ik and D Trump if they can start resolution of Kashmir issue.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:04am
No translator needed as already said many times
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Jul 23, 2019 06:05am
Even Member of Wight house didn't give the value of Trump's Remark...
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Jul 23, 2019 06:06am
Kashmir issue will be solved by India herself. Modi and Amit Shah are working on that.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:13am
This video shows your PM is scared to face Trump. He is stammering, not able to complete a sentence, and he says sub continent has 1 and quarter billion population. My dear IK, India itself has more than that. Please do your homework before you meet someone 1000 times bigger than you. You are the PM of a country.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:19am
Trump at times gets carried away..
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Jul 23, 2019 06:24am
The situation is other way around. Trump may ask India to help him to solve the problem with Iran.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:24am
This is way above Trump's league. Let him first solve climate change, North Korea, Iran, and Palestine issues first.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:24am
Don't forget shimla agreement.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:25am
What a bufoon.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:28am
Trump a pathological liar. Why will modi ask for mediation when India has always called Kashmir a bilateral issue?? Infact modi even rejected Xi jinping's offer of mediation.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:33am
President Trump statement is clear about the Modi’s request. If external affairs ministry has some better idea to hold bilateral talks that too is always welcome by Pak.. Earlier UN Secretary General has offered his good offices to mediate in Kashmir dispute, but India ignored that offer.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:34am
Imran very rightly pointed out that 1.25 billions people in the subcontinent have been held hostage by issue of Kashmir. US is the only super power of the world. It is irrelevant that India asked President Trump to mediate in the issue of Kashmir or not. The fact of the matter is that dispute of Kashmir stands. US being the super power of the world has the clout on both the countries and in fact all the countries of the world. We the people of sub continent has the right to live peacefully and progress. If we not than our coming generation should burry the seeds of hate and enjoy life like civilized countries. It will be not out of contest to say that third world countries look US as the boss and relationship with US have never been easy. This is golden opportunity for US if this conflict is resolved by them than trust deficit between US and third world countries will evaporate and small countries will look toward US not as boss but as wise big brother.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:43am
Irrespective of Congress, BJP and even communist whoever may be in government... The Indian PM will never ask any US president to mediate in Kashmir issue.. so Indians won't believe in Trump statement.. entire world knows that Trump does not know what to say and what not to say. He never makes any sense.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:45am
Why not Trump resolves his own issues with Iran and Russia?
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Jul 23, 2019 06:53am
Modi's double game plan, don't trust POTUS and play safe. Obsession with Kashmir is not going to get you anything. Instead build a robust plan to revive economy and focus on education and healthcare. Learn, if any from Bangladesh and Sri Lanka not from US or China. India never trust later for obvious reasons.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:01am
Zero sum game?
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Jul 23, 2019 07:02am
Only 220 million people are held hostage to the issue of Kashmir others are doing fine. Yesterday India has launched the Chandrayaan-2 successfully and also working hard to become 5 trillion economy in next 5 years.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:11am
India would never make such demand. And India will never accept any third party interference in Kashmir issue.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:13am
Trump is unpredictable. He often say lies.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:16am
Trump would have forgotten his meet with Imran Khan the moment he walks out the door. Clearly there needs to be an age limit for US Presidents.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:23am
Denial from Mr. Modi. I could have said, " I told you so ". Typical Modi Saheb.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:25am
If India requests for mediation, remember it will be discussing the whole of Kashmir. The parts with India, Pakistan and China.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:25am
Imran Khan used to beat India on the cricket field and now he's beating India on each and every occasion. Lets give peace a chance, Imran Khan is best bet for peace in sub continent.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:26am
India and modi are a laughing stock!
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Jul 23, 2019 07:27am
Hardly doubt India requested US mediation.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:32am
Really liked the cover photo!!! News is about IK meeting Trump, but my friends are obsessed with Modi.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:39am
So Mr Trump lied in front of cameras? Why would he say if this was not true?
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Jul 23, 2019 07:46am
Kashmir is not Negotiable. Stop day dreaming.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:47am
One of modis loose talks in informal chat with world leaders. Bad
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Jul 23, 2019 07:47am
Who lies modi/trum? Big question? !!!!!!
But big blow for India!!!!
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Jul 23, 2019 07:52am
@Ahmed, India is lying..
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Jul 23, 2019 07:53am
@Tayyab, India is lying as usual..
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Jul 23, 2019 07:55am
We welcome US mediation.. and thanks to modi ji for moving forward. Kashmiri issue must be solved.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:56am
@Tayyab, yes
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Jul 23, 2019 07:56am
@diya, yes
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Jul 23, 2019 07:58am
India will never accept third party in the Kashmir issue. Trump is a loose talker . He speaks without understanding the gravity of the matter
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Jul 23, 2019 07:58am
India never requested nor accepted any third party intervention in kashmir resolution. Period. Trump is lying.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:00am
Definitely Trump is lying. Going by past, India would not like mediation.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:01am
India is upsetting President Trump
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Jul 23, 2019 08:03am
If Modi wanted Trump to mediate, why would he back out? How exactly does Modi gain from such a lie?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:06am
No one can force anyone to negotiate. Imagine asking someone to forcibly love someone. Can that be ever possible?
You like someone or talk to someone when you feel genuinely.
Imagine forcing someone to talk when they don't want to. How silly.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:08am
politics is an art of fooling people.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:08am
Even if what Trump says is untrue, why would Modi correct him? What's in it for India
to call the President of the U S a liar? NOTHING but ill will...
Gordon D. Walker
Canada
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Jul 23, 2019 08:09am
India will never approach any country for mediating in Kashmir. Forget US even Pakistan is irrelevant when comes to Kashmir. The raising of two regiments in Northern Command by India is proof it won't yield an inch.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:10am
@Tayyab, 100%
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Jul 23, 2019 08:11am
India doesn't entertain Lip service.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:11am
It is obvious that Trump is trying to project something which didn't happen, otherwise he would have spoken on Twitter when Modi asked for it. There are characters in this world called 'compulsive liars'...hope people understand that! After couple of days, Trump will ask what is Kashmir?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:11am
@Ahmad, yes
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Jul 23, 2019 08:11am
@Kailash,
You know what 'advantageous' means, or have you been asleep for the past five years?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:16am
USA congress also denied, Even Pentagon Denied, check others statements, expect pakistani.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:19am
... India denies Modi asked Trump to mediate Kashmir dispute. That was a rumour.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:21am
The rejoinder comes immediately from the President's spokesperson. Pakistanis, please read that before deciding who's telling the truth and who's playing to the gallery.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:22am
Wonder how people fails to read the remarks in a proper way, plz not the Trump mentioned 'If requested by India & Pakistan' which is what is UN's position and 'If i can help, i would love to mediate'.
So you both remarks is subjected to "If". So relax don't read too much, neither Mr Modi not Mr Trump are lying. What Trump said is the consistent position of both the US & the UN since long which is consistent with position that India has and which was reiterated by Induan Foreign Office in the above statement.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:23am
I told y’all Trump was fibbing, to put it politely
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Jul 23, 2019 08:23am
Pathological liars. The February fiasco for Indians showed that to the whole world.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:23am
So what?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:26am
India never needed anyone as far as Pakistan is concerned. Bangladesh was created single handedly by India.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:27am
President Trump must have mistaken Modi's request for mediation on something else than Kashmir.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:28am
Got lost in translation I guess..
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Jul 23, 2019 08:28am
Kashmir belongs to India. There is no mediation or resolving any issue. Pakistan and the whole world has no option but to accept kashmir is a part of India.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:28am
I am glad, so Trump critics in Pakistan have turned his fan, overnight.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:30am
@Ahmad, : We just did. A statement can either be true or a lie. How does it matter if the person lying is POTUS. A lie is a lie.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:31am
@anil kumar, :May be when you grow up you will be able to come to right conclusions.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:32am
Focus on survival rather than Kashmir is the key for Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:32am
Trump is losing it. Of all Indian prime ministers Modi will be the last one to want anyone to mediate in Kashmir.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:32am
So essentially India is now saying that Trump is a liar? Not surprised at all as we are used to their U turns.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:33am
@Tayyab, : Whatever Trump says says needs to be taken with a pinch of salt.He was just misguiding his guest.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:33am
PMIK, Xi Jinping is watching you closely.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:34am
@Straight talk , :Doesn't matter.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:37am
No right-minded Indian PM will ask for any other country to mediate in India-Pakistan relationship leave alone USA. Trump has messed it up once again.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:37am
@Shah, "Then why has Kashmir not been solved for 70 years?" Because for Pakistan solution means getting Indian land. It's the Shimla Agreement signed by Pak PM that decides the issue now.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:40am
@Syed Farhan Ahmad, :Using borrowed English phrases doesn't impress anybody other than your compatriots.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:40am
Well apparently modi is the most hostile leader in the subcontinent, his actions tantamount to power hungry corrupt leader like Nawaz Sharif and Zardari,
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Jul 23, 2019 08:43am
Indian government should stop playing games and play ball because permanent peace between India and Pakistan will allow the people of the subcontinent to realize their full social & economic potential. President Trump has the ability to help both countries do the right thing for their own sake and for the sake of the region
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Jul 23, 2019 08:45am
Who has the might is right.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:45am
Why should Midi needs Trumps meditation when Pak is always ready to talk with India?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:47am
@Shdhsn, with Kashmiris...and that it us very clear they need to fall in Delhi line
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Jul 23, 2019 08:48am
@anil kumar, I believe Modi 1000 times more than Trump. The guy never stays on same thing twice.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:48am
This is probably one best thing happened during the Khan-Trump meeting. So India is the next in the list, that lies a lot ...
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Jul 23, 2019 08:57am
@Shaqil , Good one!
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Jul 23, 2019 08:58am
India has zero tolerance policy for terrorism.
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Jul 23, 2019 08:59am
@Gordon D. Walker, Do you think Trump doesn't lie?
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Jul 23, 2019 08:59am
India has already upset US by purchasing S 400.
What tha
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Jul 23, 2019 09:02am
Modi will clinch every inch of Kashmir. Just wait and watch.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:04am
Modi as usual is lying ... saying something and then not taking a U-turn, how very dishonest of him!
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Jul 23, 2019 09:04am
@anil kumar, American foreign Ministry denied the same, it seem you typed your name wrongly
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Jul 23, 2019 09:05am
@Tayyab, Not only India their foreign ministry also not supported Trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:07am
Please find a solution for Kashmir and let humanity win.Mr Modi can do it alone.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:10am
The statement should have been more like: No, we didn't request US but not the subject is on the discussion so we will be happy to work with Pakistan through US to resolve the Kashimr dispute once and for all.
This statement would have gain a lot of support for Modi, even by Pakistani.
Now, its pretty clear who is serious in doing some real work. Our government has been trying hard to bring peace to the subcontinent via dialogue and this needs a good support from Indian govt too. Hope better sense will prevail between the two nations. Arms race won't take us anywhere.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:11am
Without any doubt Modi is lying because there is no reason for President Trump to talk on Kashmir until Modi requested him.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:12am
@kumar, we see how successful you guys have been. I don’t know where you guys are getting this superiority complex. West recently paying tiny bit of respect to you guys so they can use you against China otherwise they have never respected India ever.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:12am
bilateral is an excuse by india , indian has to be made by USA or permanent 5 to resolve kashmir.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:13am
@Enam, The US has withdrawn the reference to mediati. You continue with your banter!
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Jul 23, 2019 09:14am
Trump shuts down whatever chance there was to India and Pakistan to talk. Modi would lose elections today if whatever Trump is saying is proven to be true.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:17am
Indian, please read between the line and learn to apply logic
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Jul 23, 2019 09:17am
@anil kumar, "Who is lying Modi or Trump? I am cocksure Modi is lying.",already they gave apology to trumps false claim.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:17am
Well, according to the Indian foreign office,
"It has been India's consistent position that all outstanding issues with Pakistan are discussed only bilaterally."
Good for you, but what happened in the case of Kulboshan ?
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Jul 23, 2019 09:17am
This is not first time we still stand on bilatral talk wit pak no one can intermediate on this issue...
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Jul 23, 2019 09:18am
@bhaRAT©, Are you from South of India ?
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Jul 23, 2019 09:20am
@Kailash, Because, they have found it to be such a bite, that can't be chewed, can't be swallowed, or even can't be spitted out, by themselves.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:24am
@Luckystar, And you think they respect Pakistan? Atleast we have accomplishments to our name... What do you have other than being mercenaries?
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Jul 23, 2019 09:25am
Here the matter of discussion is not at all India but it is Iran. Everyone knows that. Iranian have very close look at this meeting. Pakistanis should also have close look as they won't receive any detail from their own govt just like CPEC, IMF deal and many more, rather on diverting statements of Mr. Trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:25am
Could we trust Mr. Trump to mediate in between India and Pakistan to resolve the Kashmir problem? The answer is a simple and forceful NO. The man most of the time doesn't even know what he is talking about. How can he be trusted to help resolve an issue between two countries which have remained at loggerheads with each other over the same for over seventy years. He only knows how to clap among his fellow Americans to make them dance to his tunes.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:26am
@Raj patel, state department is in damage control mode. Statement from dos says it is a bilateral things.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:30am
@anil kumar, @Tayyab, I am cocksure Trump is lying not Modi.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:31am
Denying what President Trump said shows India’s imaginary inflated ego.
India needs to be cut down to size by the leader of the free world!!
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Jul 23, 2019 09:31am
When you can't help yourself, what can other party do. Using clutches as state policy won't lead far. India has consitant position and Trump knows that. The issue hear is not Kashmir for Trump it is the trade issue that is at heart of this statement. India won't budge that is for certain.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:32am
@Kailash, its sad that ordinary indians condone the killing and subjugation of Kasmiris just to score points over Pakistan. Shameful.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:32am
Trump makes stuff up while speaking. That is the reason his lawyers did not want Trump to testify to special prosecutor Robert Mueller. i.e. Trump can't be trusted to speak truth. Even an ordinary Indian knows India does not want outside mediation. Modi might have asked Trump to lean on to Pakistan and Trump must have thought it be a request to mediate.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:34am
@diya, India called the Tempu a LIAR ;-)
India did not say anything new . Everyone in the world knows that Trump is a liar.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:34am
Kashmir is a big big issue and President Trump too know it very well and every person on this planet is aware of it. Indians must come out of isolation on the issue and solve it with the help of UNO.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:37am
US law maker apologizes
Rep. Brad Sherman
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@BradSherman
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Everyone who knows anything about foreign policy in South Asia knows that #India consistently opposes third-party mediation re #Kashmir. Everyone knows PM Modi would never suggest such a thing. Trump’s statement is amateurish and delusional. And embarrassing. 1/2
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Jul 23, 2019 09:37am
Does it matter whether Modi requested mediation now that both Indian foreign ministry and US state department have reiterated earlier position.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:38am
Pakistan has made all efforts possible to have a dialogue with India but they do not want to talk so NOT sure how they plan to resolve Kashmir issue internally with Pakistan. Imran Khan has proposed this action correctly and maybe US can assist in resolving this issue.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:38am
@Enlightened One, You are truly delusional and should seek immediate medical help. Enlightenment comes when you purge your head and heart of all the rubbish you've been filling both up with. Your had should instead read 'Epitome of the Arrogant (One). Get well soon.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:39am
After Shimla pact, Kashmir is bilateral issue, no Indian PM will ever deviate from this statement.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:41am
@AZulfi, ....So India is not serious about peace and stability in the region...
India can not have peace and stability in the region with present day Pakistan as a neighbor which is the plain and unvarnished truth.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:41am
No Kashmir solution, no access to central Asia.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:43am
@Salman, @bhaRAT©, Are you from South of India ?
No, south of Lahore.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:45am
@anil kumar, and you are a Pakistani so i am not surprised.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:46am
Did anyone notice how Imran is buttering up Trump by calling him most powerful in the world ?
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Jul 23, 2019 09:46am
@Tayyab, without doubt.
Indias foreign policy cannot be changed even by Mr Modi on certain issues,this is one of them.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:46am
US in damage control mode now. Watch out official statement.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:47am
@Salman, "@bhaRAT©, Are you from South of India ?"
no he is a pakistani like you.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:47am
Where is the News headline about Imran's meet with Trump
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Jul 23, 2019 09:47am
Cuz we all know how Trump solved the Israel-Palestine conflict.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:50am
To all pakistanis,this is a bilateral between Pakistan and USA,so dont worry about India,concentrate on what you can get from USA.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:50am
@Shaqil ,
Nothing about relationship with Pakistan
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Jul 23, 2019 09:50am
@KB , Americans themselves would trust just about anybody over Trump. It was no surprise that many including those in his own Administration came forward to rebut claims made by Trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:52am
@Shdhsn, As of now, the 'bilateral' involves the Government of India and the Governor appointed by India. No power on earth is going to challenge that.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:53am
India is using state actors like Kulbhushan yadav and Abi nandhan to terrorise its neighbouring countries
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Jul 23, 2019 09:53am
@Dr Tarik, Trump did lie about his campaign not just in front of the camera but in front of the US Congress too. So one could expect anything from him. Elections are approaching & Trump would, as Modi did, do anything to 'go past the line'.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:53am
Trump take immense pride in his deal making ability.
He has not seen anything yet.
Let him deal with India and Pakistan.
He would forget all about deals.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:54am
If you want clarification
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Check congress external affairs chairman tweet. Trump is lying
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Jul 23, 2019 10:01am
@N_Saq, u r naive to history. This is not the first time any american president offered to mediate. Read from newspaper archives. Whenever their is something that needs Pakistan's help such rhetorics r uttered and reply is same from India. Bolton said, before balakot strike, India has all the rights to defend its territory. What territory? Gujarat? Rajasthan? No dear it is Kashmir.
There is no doubt Pakistan, afganisthan and India need peace to prevail but do u think India is not in (such types of) peace? But only delusional people will view this as mutually exclusive. Nothing is interchangeable. Smell the coffee, India will not handover kashmir to pakistan nor Pakistan will redraw Durand line.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:08am
@Ahmad, yes dear, its in plain language.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:09am
Trump is a known liar. US state department has already issued a statement that Kashmir is a bilateral issue. So vagrants can come back home now.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:12am
@KnowYourHistory, can u give some examples? Modi lying? And IK and Trump not lying?
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Jul 23, 2019 10:17am
@Ahmad, yes
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Jul 23, 2019 10:18am
@HashBrown®, so you think Imran Khan is honest?
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Jul 23, 2019 10:22am
@Shdhsn, right. But india has also informed clearly to us what their conditions are for any bilateral talks. So far we haven't met these.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:24am
It is MODIfied India. Well done MEA.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:25am
@Shah, This question you should ask Pakistan too.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:26am
@HashBrown®, "So who was lying, Trump or Modi? Neither leader is particularly familiar with the idea of honesty, so it's anyone's guess..."
Add Imran to the mix and things get even murkier.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:27am
When was the last time US solved a problem anywhere in the world ? Pakistan knows it better.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:30am
India will resolve it unilaterally. Why bilateral?
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Jul 23, 2019 10:30am
@Enam, Why it's a big blow to India? Kindly explain. The country stands firmly for it's benefits. No matter if it's against US or China or even Russia . Look at the past. It doesn't care what US thinks and deals with Russia or Iran. It doesn't care what Russia thinks and deals with US. India does what it thinks is best.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:31am
India called spade a spade like always, and Trump a liar ;)
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Jul 23, 2019 10:32am
India in defiance.
Kashmir always a international issue with US resolution on it
Kashmir would never resolve bilaterally and when India is unwilling to resolve, then third country involvement becomes a compulsion
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Jul 23, 2019 10:39am
Imran Khan is a true sportsmen and he is in a habit of bowling a Yorker.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:42am
@Enlightened One, why waste your breath? Kashmir belongs to Pakistan, period. The choice for India is give up Kashmir peacefully or the new name for India will be Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:47am
@Zak, We can happily send Rahul to your country. Make him the Prime minister
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Jul 23, 2019 10:50am
@N khan, one guess, it can only be the man of Gujarat fame.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:57am
Yest saw Najm Sethi anaylysis on IK US visit. He literally ripped apart IK.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:57am
@Akram, pl don't fish in troubled waters. What should interest Pakistanis is their economic condition ? How come the netizens are shy of this subject which is a bread and butter issue and get distracted ,may be to reduce their stress and innate desire to get entertained ?
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Jul 23, 2019 10:57am
Indians are habitual liars.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:57am
India will resolve kashmir issue unilaterally.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:58am
@Tamil, Please change your name, or tell your own name.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:58am
@desi dimag, Kashmir to be solved next.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:59am
Forget all this. What US gave to pakistan is the main issue. When is US exiting afghanistan is the main issue.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:00am
No need to ask Modi.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:00am
Kashmir coming in next for resolution.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:01am
@Enlightened One, keep on lying no one believes your lies except fascist Hindus
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Jul 23, 2019 11:01am
From US state department tweet it is cleat Mr. Trump is not speaking truth
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Jul 23, 2019 11:01am
why would modi/India need trumps umpire ship ?
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Jul 23, 2019 11:04am
Imran Khan outclassed India in diplomacy beside cricket (when he was captain).
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Jul 23, 2019 11:05am
@Zak, Shouldnt you be happy that India has not moved on.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:08am
@Zak: "Why Modi make fool of himself. Rahul would have had more dignity."
Why are you making a fool of yourself, day in and day out?
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Jul 23, 2019 11:09am
Both Modi and Trump are more honest and intelligent than Mr. U Turn!
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Jul 23, 2019 11:11am
How many of Pakistan's problems have been solved, to date, by any foreign country?
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Jul 23, 2019 11:14am
@Masood, Yes ur right Imran n Trump who are making there peoples fool.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:15am
there are regrets and apologies already from USA
Trump cant be believed
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Jul 23, 2019 11:25am
99% comments are from Indians as they are not allowed to comment on the reality in their newspapers.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:33am
So imran Khan's visit is all about Kashmir!!!
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Jul 23, 2019 11:42am
@Masood, Are you Masood? i think you are bigger lier than Modi.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:46am
@Ahmad, Sure it did, from the quantum of English language i know of.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:47am
@Tamil, grab which offer? By whom? Come out of your slumber and smell coffee.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:48am
@Shaqil , in your dreams :p
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Jul 23, 2019 11:52am
“Kashmir” word is a great way to distract people from real work. If it came between IK and Trump means nothing useful is happening between them. Enjoy the discussions.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:54am
@Enlightened One, India and Indians have not got the maturity to even sit and talk let alone solve any problems. The reason they continue to hide behind bilateral issue story is that they know that any neutral third party will say "What the hell you are talking about. Give Kashmirs the right to decide their own future as enshrined in UN resolutions which you agreed"
Indians are well aware that apart from force and brutality there is no way to keep the Kashmiris on their side..
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Jul 23, 2019 11:57am
India cannot avoid questions about Kashmir. Kashmir is a disputed region between Pakistan and India. There is a plethora of resolutions on it in UN. Referendum is the only solution as stipulated in the resolutions. Indians think their economic might is enough to impose its will on Pakistan as far as Kashmir is concerned which is a misplaced idea. Dear Indians, Pakistan with it worst economic, political, diplomatic and social state of affairs has refused to bow down before India on Kashmir. What will India do after Pakistan becomes economically and politically a viable state and start pressing internationally for the resolution of Kashmir issue? IK will become the worst nightmare of India in a few years, mark my words. India is trying its best to create problems within Pakistan so it forgets Kashmir. In your dreams !!
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Jul 23, 2019 11:58am
@Pakistani, Please continue your laughter and pay 13% interest and fight 12% inflation and seek aid from everyone.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:59am
@Shah, Kashmir is solved as far as India is concerned. It's an integral part of India. You are the people who have a problem. So go talk to India or take it by force if you can.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:00pm
Maybe india can play upto their standards and have all cricketers wear modi mask to show support to modi in the next match and surely icc will approve of it due to some "noble" cause. Who knows...
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Jul 23, 2019 12:01pm
@bhaRAT©, No one in the world can afford to isolate India or Modi. We are the world's fastest growing large economy. You are fortunate IK is getting Trump to listen to him.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:02pm
@Rashid, keep your access with you... you gave one to china and we see how well it is going on.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:04pm
@Akram, it wont happen until India's preconditions for talks are not met.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:05pm
@Waqar Khan, You are in a fool's paradise if you think Pakistan has an upper hand. India is 2 plus trillion economy marching to 5 trillion. Pakistan is nowhere in the scene. Your politicians can kick and scream or do a song and dance and there is no way the world will even listen to you. Because you just don't matter.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:07pm
@Ali, We have always been more powerful than Pakistan. Remember the three wars we fought. We defeated you comprehensively.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:11pm
Grow up IK, why you guys need a lap either from China or US to resolve any of your issues. Shimla agreement was signed by Pak itself so sit by it.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:20pm
I think Language was the barrier. Mr. Modi might have not understood Trupms language. Same is the case with Mr. Nawaz Sharif. Both are from same category
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Jul 23, 2019 12:22pm
@N_Saq,
India successfully resisted US desire of mediating in Kashmir in 1960/70 when it was dependent on US for food and Pakistan was it's acolyte in chief in South Asia thru CETO and CENTO treaty. It intervened in BD in spite of wishes of US against it.
Therefore, if today, someone thinks India has no choice but to obey US is not in his senses and living in fools paradise.
US need Pak to cool Afghanistan, so that they can open front with IRAN. This need is task specific.
But US needs India for it's own sustained growth to sale their products to large Indian middle class consumer. After, saturation of China market, and China attaining self sufficiency in high technological product, China is now rival for US, where as INDIA is only market. US today needs INDIA more than India needs US.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:22pm
Yesterday India launches moon mission. Today pakistan talking about Kashmir again.
Why do guys waste your life. Why not do productive things
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Jul 23, 2019 12:23pm
Again Kashmir.... Why not spend time and money in education, science space exploration etc ?
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Jul 23, 2019 12:28pm
Yes, trump has lied on this occasion
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Jul 23, 2019 12:31pm
@KB ,
Yea..tomorrow he may ban Pakistanis entry to USA to please Indians. He is capable of doing that
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Jul 23, 2019 12:32pm
@Raja, Pakistan will come around after India has decided.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:34pm
@desi dimag, He may be from anywhere in Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 12:39pm
What U-turn president says to another U-turn prime minister?
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Jul 23, 2019 12:51pm
@Tayyab, yes...
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Jul 23, 2019 12:52pm
@Tayyab, Yes. You got it right.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:15pm
@desi dimag, "When was the last time US solved a problem anywhere in the world ? Pakistan knows it better." That's not the issue. The issue is whether Modi asked Trump to mediate or not. Maybe both of them are right. Maybe Modi asked Trump to intervene against Pakistan, and Trump understood that he was asking to mediate between India and Pakistan. In both cases, India is seeking US help to solve issues with Pakistan. Pakistan is also seeking US help in that regard, but it does openly. And there is nothing wrong in asking for US help for both of them. After all, it is very important for US that India and Pakistan solve their issues.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:20pm
Even US state secretary denied it. Who cares it now!
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Jul 23, 2019 01:22pm
Trump thinks India is N Korea. He is not fit for US presidency. Leader of the greatest democracy sitting with one dictator it is unacceptable.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:24pm
Checkmate to the bilateral type of mantras. Pakistan seeking third party mediation is a good strategy. It would be great to bring in other big players China and possibly Russia. This K issue needs to be resolved.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:31pm
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad, Cry on nobody cares for Pakistan.
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Jul 23, 2019 01:37pm
If PM Modi did make such statement why it did not appear in press at that time . This speaks who is telling the truth .
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Jul 23, 2019 01:47pm
@Ali, we are powerful than pakistan. There is no second thought about it
Go check all growth and social parameters and compare
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Jul 23, 2019 01:56pm
@Enlightened One, It’s India who has been meddling in our affairs and all of its neighbours. 1971 meddling in the then East Pakistan and also supporting Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka etc etc are prime examples so please don’t lecture us on meddling. If you want to resolve the Kashmir issue bilaterally then be brave and come sit on the table and talk about it.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:00pm
@Zak, are you a paid PTI cronie.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:00pm
So the K word has become international now so much so the it is freely uttered in the Oval Office. Thanks PMIK
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Jul 23, 2019 02:05pm
It is encouraging to see Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s double talk exposed. Truth has a way of coming out at inconvenient moments. It will be interesting to see how Trump handles Modi’s denial.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:07pm
Dear Pakistanis, Do not anger Modi. He is not just a leader but a politician, a very focused politician. In just five years he decimated congress because congress angered him. You have too many weakness besides being a pauper.Don't invite his wrath.Nobody will come to save you , including your all kind of brothers (Iron , copper, aluminium) and your coming generations will curse you in the same manner as you curse your leadership just before 1971.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:17pm
For all those Pakistani people who have been fed on Kashmir dream.... Wake up and smell coffee. There's one of the world's largest army standing between you and Kashmir. Additionally, there are also 1.2 billion people.
How on earth do you think you can seize control of Kashmir?
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Jul 23, 2019 02:20pm
@JusticE, Pakistan cannot at this juncture afford an arms race and needs to take a break to focus on the economy, so fill this time with dialogues and deescalation , Once economy health has improved , go back to the old ways of challenging India and one upmanship. That cycle has been happening for past 70 years, there is no indication that this time it will be any different. Its not in India interest to waste time in this tried and tested stalling tactic. India is not USA who can be taken for a ride by Pakistan for 17 years.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:20pm
India denies then US go back its words
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Jul 23, 2019 02:26pm
@Shah, Because when ever the talks starts Pakistan's so call state actors sends terrorist and kills Indian army. So every thing fall on Pakistan. This suggest that Pakistan is not willing to talk.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:32pm
"I feel that only the most powerful state, headed by President Trump, can bring the two countries together."
Too much appeasement in this sentence.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:36pm
The Trump administration has launched a damage control exercise after the Trump's remarks about mediation on Kashmir. The State Department on Tuesday said it was a "bilateral" issue between India and Pakistan and the US "welcomes" the two countries "sitting"down for talks.
Tweet from US state department.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:39pm
@Rashid, "...No Kashmir solution, no access to central Asia."
AND no water from Indus River Basin
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Jul 23, 2019 02:40pm
@Gordon D. Walker, - Do you read the USA newspapers or watch the CNN news? Trump has lied about everything (at least 500 times) since his Presidential position. India has always maintained its position. It is status quo for now unless and until Pakistan mends its ways.
India's integrity is not a question here?
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Jul 23, 2019 02:42pm
There is Economic crisis going on in home and Imran khan seems trying to divert attention of Pakistani public by raising usual Kashmir issue in USA.
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Jul 23, 2019 02:51pm
@Zak, "Kashmir coming in next for resolution."
1 step ahead like your lala topi said,"all decisions of the world will be taken after consulting Pakistan"
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Jul 23, 2019 02:52pm
@desi dimag, If it’s only 220 million people then why do 1.2 billion Indians throw a collective tantrum when the K word is mentioned like you are doing now? Please explain.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:06pm
India will solve Kashmir issue bilaterally. If Pakistan runs to third country, India will solve it unilaterally.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:10pm
Guys have some shame. India launches space missions. You don't have electricity. Still you talk of only Kashmir
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Jul 23, 2019 03:28pm
@Tayyab, No dear, the American officials are saying so. We did not have to say...
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Jul 23, 2019 03:30pm
@Enlightened One, The neighbouring country did not ask India to take matter to UN. Since India thought it was International UN matter and got the UN resolutions, India needs to abide by them. UN resolutions are not bilateral, they are international and therefore the international community have a say on it. India is only exposing its dirty double standards and pack of lies it weaves to the International community. US has already started exerting pressure with trade special status being removed and more will come its way if it continues to deceive the international community.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:32pm
@kumar, Why is the issue still outstanding then? May be nuclear winter will bring you to your senses.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:37pm
@Just Saying , India's relationship has already started downward spiral with US with special trade status being removed. Next, once India has deposited monies in the US treasury for the hardware that it has ordered from US, slowly sanctions will start and the equipment and your money will be in US pocket, India will have to act.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:38pm
India has no interest in peace, especially in Kashmir. With a rabid hindutva, all minorities face a bleak future. The only good news is, first signs signalling a breakup.
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Jul 23, 2019 03:56pm
An offer for mediation or arbitration is made when two or more parties or country have an issue to be settled. If India accepts the Kashmir issue with Pakistan why an offer for an arbitration by USA president Trump is not acceptable for India?
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Jul 23, 2019 03:59pm
hahaaa Trump is in trouble. Now US will start damage control exercise.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:03pm
@desi dimag, "India doesn't entertain Lip service."
Do you often confuse yourself as an individual with an institution like India?
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Jul 23, 2019 04:10pm
I trust Modi. India wants the status quo to be maintained. There is no dispute at all.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:18pm
Some part of Kashmir is Indian and some Pakistani . What’s there to resolve ? Keep it the way it is forever and stop the fight. There is nothing like Azad or occupied Kashmir . If anyone wants to visit other side give special passes
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Jul 23, 2019 04:28pm
Trump should not be considered seriously for everything that he says. Even American Congress men don't believe him at times.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:28pm
Trump did not guessed, he referred to proper dialogue he had with Modi. A liar say things without reference, that is not the case here. A. Trump gave specific time frame i.e. he had discussion 2 weeks ago. B. He asked Modi specifically if he is asking mediation for Kashmir. C. He said he will talk to Modi.
Now come on, how can he be so sure if conversation did not take place. My Indian friends are living in bubble.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:40pm
That looks like off the record soon they are having randezvous fixed by Trump.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:43pm
Why our Indian commentators are so grilled with that news which shows their real face to the world; War, War and conspiracies
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Jul 23, 2019 04:46pm
@MyPoint, Very soon Indian money will be in US treasury in full for all the hardware it has ordered and once those monies are secure in US pocket things will start unraveling. You say US have not been able to do anything, what about special trade status being removed. The relationship is already on downward spiral. US is no friend of any country and only looks after the number one, itself.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:50pm
@K Srinivas Rao, He was 'wisest' person when Modi had accepted his friendship.
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Jul 23, 2019 04:52pm
@MyPoint, Why did you run to UN and ICJ if do not like third party mediation so much? Enlighten us.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:01pm
Mr. Trump is well known for the 'Flip-Flop'.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:05pm
@Shah, Because Pakistan do not want Kashmir solution, since once it solved, Pakistani military and politicians will lost their bread & butter. Similarly, this will applicable for Kashmiri leadership
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Jul 23, 2019 05:09pm
Just recently china had offered to mediate when imran visited . This was aswell recieved with same response from india.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:12pm
@Enlightened One, It’s ok, don’t worry, we know all too well Modi and his government is not that diplomatic, and not at all concerned about Indian Occupied Kashmir and it’s struggling people. We didn’t believe Trump, if India was willing, the situation could have been resolved years ago, avoiding loss if thousands of innocent people, who only want to live in peace, not in cages, not have to deal with brutality on daily basis. So please, save us the sermon on Internal matters of India, but do tell the world about the internal matters of Kashmir, that directly relate to its abused people.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:27pm
@Manu USA, There is nothing in Shimla agreement in relation to this, have you ever read i?. ICJ just said last week bilateral agreements do not override international conventions and resolutions, why do you find simple things so difficult to understand.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:33pm
We Indians need to focus on our problems, it's so sad we're continuously trying to comment on these websites and we need to start asking ourselves, we have a starving nation the size of 8 Pakistans, do we really need another failed moon mission and spend our pastimes commenting. We give a new meaning to "sad."
Pratek Himanshu
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Jul 23, 2019 05:57pm
@N_Saq, good dreams.
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Jul 23, 2019 05:59pm
@fairplay, there is only one break happened... That's was in 1971. When braves... Surrendered unconditionally..
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Jul 23, 2019 06:09pm
@Enlightened One, How much did you get paid.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:10pm
@bhaRAT©, Which planet do you inhabit? And your interpretation is so fallacious. Listen to Najam Sethi on the subject for the truth!
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Jul 23, 2019 06:12pm
@Irfan, I don't think you are Pakistani. I think this is a new strategy which is quite evident on Dawn.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:15pm
Why is Modi hiding. He should give an explanation.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:19pm
Modi needs to take English lessons. He probably doesn't know what he is saying.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:23pm
@Murli, He has already excluded Indians who are delusional and like to live in a denial mode.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:23pm
it doesn't matter who is lying? .... Pakistan cannot trust Modi or Trump... IK is a straight forward person he has to be extremely careful when dealing with both...
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Jul 23, 2019 06:29pm
Pakistan ! You are dealing not with Manmohan or Vajpayee. This is Modi. Take care of what you have, lest you lose that too
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Jul 23, 2019 06:34pm
@Enlightened One, Living in a dream world are the Indians, completely divorced from reality... Whose plane got shot ….just a fact check. Who lost the war to China... need more …. Who lost to New Zealand ….Have a good day
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Jul 23, 2019 06:36pm
@Vijay B. , Nehru was even better politician but he did make the blunder of going to UN and accepting the UN resolutions and agreed to comply with them. What is their to say Modi has not done same. Astute diplomat would say anything to get something, what evidence has Trump he said that.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:39pm
We know obviously who to believe. Lying is Trump's daily routine.
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Jul 23, 2019 06:45pm
@Ali, Modi certainly handled Pakistan very well, just lost fighter or two in the process worth millions. In my view he can only handle dumb populace, no one else believes him.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:22pm
It is proven by US Newspapers like WP and NY Times that Trump lies all the time.
In fact there is a list of his lies. He even denies making statements that were recorded and videotaped.
before and after he became President. Based on this I believe this also is a big lie. He always wants to portrays himself as influential leader.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:23pm
Trump is a prolific liar and Modi is not far behind him.
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Jul 23, 2019 07:29pm
Dec, dec decline. Namo Namo you are great.
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Jul 23, 2019 09:32pm
@Enlightened One, How did the UN resolution of 1948 came into being ? Ms enlightened, read the World history to know the fate of arrogance and use of excessive power on ordinary people.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:09pm
@Enlightened One, I stand truly enlightened sir/madam. More than the naysayers could probably digest. Sincerely hope the Pakistani people tread the path been shown to them by their leaders for it shall usher 'naya pakistan'.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:20pm
PolitiFact, a Pulitzer Prize winning fact-checking portal, analysed all of Trump’s publicly available claims. And it found that the US President is “True” only 5 per cent of the times. He is “Mostly True” 11 per cent of the times and “Half True” just 14 per cent. Effectively, Trump’s statements have some element of truth only 30 per cent of the times.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:44pm
@Enlightened One, your 2532 yes votes on this Pakistani news site is a proof how deeply you are hurt by the world now realising your deep rooted hate to the truth.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:46pm
@Kailash, you are right because, that was what Mahatama Gandhi also said. But, you have already classified the Gandhi killer, Godse, as the patriotic Indian !
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Jul 23, 2019 10:48pm
@Ash, Since you are an expert on the UN, why not throw light on the meaning of Accession (Fact check if you may wish so)
‘Accession’ is an act by which a State signifies its agreement to be legally
bound by the terms of a particular treaty. It has the same legal effect as ratification, but is not
preceded by an act of signature. The formal procedure for accession varies according to the
national legislative requirements of the State. To accede, the
appropriate organ of a State – Parliament, Senate, Head of State or
Government, or a combination of these – follows its domestic approval procedures and makes a
formal decision to be a party to the treaty. Then, the instrument of accession, a formal sealed
letter referring to the decision and signed by the State’s responsible authority, is prepared and
deposited with the United Nations Secretary-General in New York.
Pakistani brethren please read the 'The Instrument of Accession, J&K'. Ability to question is the sign of a democracy.
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Jul 23, 2019 10:51pm
@MyPoint, you are right because, the US first proscribed Modi from entering the US as CM Gujarat and kept him at bay for 13 years, but immediately changed mind when he became the PM.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:21pm
@Enlightened One, you mean stop killing thousands of people in kashmir and stop causing problem in Balothistanby by sending terrorists from india
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Jul 23, 2019 11:29pm
a leader & govt. which is rejoicing its delusional accomplishment today were the ones who were on a completely different page a few months ago. At least "Pakistan's favorite tea seller" has been consistent in his approach.
It is for Pakistan to understand, In India no political party whether left or right will want to go against national sentiment (one which is from rationale not indoctrination). There is fair bit of nay saying media here who don't succumb to what is being preached.
Understand pakistan's tragedy today not being able to question the culprits "the ones who cannot be named". Neither can they be challenged nor held accountable even by legal instruments of the state for they fear backlash.
Was truly impressed by dawn when they implemented a graph detailing Imran Khan's Promisises vs accomplishments but as on date nowhere do i see it highlighted.
for those who fear fascism are unfortunately in the clutches of one.
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Jul 23, 2019 11:33pm
Either Modi is lying or Trump, Both cant be right.
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Jul 24, 2019 01:26am
Who takes Trump seriously except imran
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Jul 24, 2019 01:54am
@Jigar, And I don’t think you are Indian.
Also the Ministry of Externsl Affsirs has unambiguously denied Trump’s comments. The foreign minister who was in the meeting between Trump and Modi in G20 has also categorically denied it in the Parliament. That is why there was reference to mediation or Kashmir in the state department readout.
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Jul 24, 2019 01:57am
@Shaqil , we have already getting s 400 from Russia ,so it's not a big problem for India. There is no such export of f22 to pak while pak has no money to buy even a single f22.....
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Jul 24, 2019 03:05am
@Jawad Masood, “Checkmate to the bilateral type of mantras. Pakistan seeking third party mediation is a good strategy. It would be great to bring in other big players ”
Checkmate? How so? It is not even a check. India said does not want mediation and the State Department said it recognizes it is a bilateral issue. Even Nawaz Sharif has required P5 to mediate but India declines.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:08am
@Rocky, When Shah Mehmood denied that a certain conversation had taken place between Pompeo and Imran, State department immediately provided the transcript to Shah Mehmood.
Here India has denied and no transcript has been provided because such a conversation never took place.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:14am
It probably means one thing. If India does not stop buying S400 from Russia, he can create a mess in the region.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:16am
@Gordon D. Walker, “What a curious development that paints Mr. Trump a liar. How does this profit Modii in his relationship with the United States”
India did not force Trump to say what he did. But since he has said that, it had no choice but to rebut.
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Jul 24, 2019 03:26am
Pathetic! I can say after viewing some of the comments here. These guys never had any trust on US or Trump. All of a sudden it became - Trump can't lie, it is Modi Very hilarious!!!
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Jul 24, 2019 03:38am
@Bilal, If it’s only 220 million people then why do 1.2 billion India throe collective tantrums?
Simply because we hate terrorism. We have seen enough of it in our lives that is emanating from Pakistan.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:13am
PM Modi did not even attend Parliament when the opposition was asking this question.
We all know what Trump is. Giving so much of importance to him questions our IQ levels.
Let Pakistan not ask the world to solve its problems.Be brave and confident to meet the other parties, and talk across the table.
In the recently concluded cricket world cup too you wanted others to help you reach the semi finals.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:18am
@Waqar Khan,
Yeah, sure. Remember it's Pakistan that has been after India for talks. So much for your upper hand.
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Jul 24, 2019 06:22am
@Rocky, very convincing... With an IQ below threadbare, you are Trump's brother...
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Jul 24, 2019 07:00am
@bhaRAT©, Trump announced aid of 1 billion to Pak. They are donating you guys the money, I don't think IK commands the same respect as Modi. IK is powerless, so don't expect any niceties.
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Jul 24, 2019 07:25am
@Dr. Ali, Sure. With USD = 160 Pakistani rupees Imran Khan is clearly beating India with a big margin.
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Jul 24, 2019 07:55am
@Jjacky, "Even US refused that Trump has offered any mediation role."
and that tweet is no where mentioned in Dawn.
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Jul 24, 2019 07:57am
@anil kumar, Pity, U R so dishonest to nation.. Trusting outsiders more than our own..
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Jul 24, 2019 08:05am
@bhaRAT©, ok so pls move to pakistan
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Jul 24, 2019 08:06am
@Shaqil , sure pls buy in cash not loans which cant be repaid
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Jul 24, 2019 08:29am
Trump only consolidated his position as the lying POTUS.
Even senators from his own party are saying he made a fool of himself.
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Jul 24, 2019 08:29am
Modi is not a helpless person to ask US to mediate
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Jul 24, 2019 08:33am
@diya, even US declared that Modi did nit ask Trump for help to resolve Kashmir problem
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Jul 24, 2019 08:40am
@Tamil, Tamil are traitors whole world knows
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Jul 24, 2019 09:18am
Finally the atrocities, oppression and human rights violations that are imposed on the people of Kashmir are in global media. I believe the people of Kashmir should decide what they want, transparently. #FreeKashmir
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Jul 24, 2019 09:38am
Trump doesn't know the difference between Kashmir and Kilimanjaro
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Jul 24, 2019 09:51am
If Modi did not approach President Trump for resolving Kashmir issue, then it must be a ghost or it means India is accusing Trump for lying. India has been deceiving the world by saying that it is India's internal issue and Kashmir issue will be discussed with Pakistan but whenever there is a chance, either India refuses to sit on a table or bring an attack on its on soldiers or civilians blaming Pakistan in first place as soon as attack happens. How long will this continue?
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Jul 24, 2019 09:55am
@Kailash, Yes, because India has a licence to kill innocent Kashmiris. If India really thinks that Kashmir is part of India, why India is killing innocent people of Kashmir. Kashmir will get independence very very soon.
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Jul 24, 2019 09:58am
@Pratek Himanshu, try to collect a better name with proper spelling next time, good luck.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:03am
@Enlightened One, Your story is too shy of ground reality. You cannot hide your crimes against people of Kashmir. People with dead conscience can only make hue and cry to hide their own mischievous intent.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:06am
@Tayyab, yes - it's as plain as that. And Mr. Trump has cultivated either wittingly or unwittingly a reputation for making statements which could hurt relationships. He has already threatened Afghanistan by claiming that he could bomb it out of existence. I am not sure if it is right for him to discuss prospects of negotiations with the Taliban - a group that has murdered and maimed thousands.
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Jul 24, 2019 11:39am
@Tayyab, Yeah - isn't that obvious ?
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Jul 24, 2019 11:43am
40 militant groups were operating in Pakistan: Imran Khan..
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Jul 24, 2019 12:02pm
@anil kumar, You don't have to put a typical Indian name here to mention your point.
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Jul 24, 2019 12:05pm
@Tayyab, Of course yes, he has lied a million times - Ask the American people themselves!
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Jul 24, 2019 12:06pm
Rather Trump should request India to mediate between America and Iran, since India is in good terms with Iran.
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Jul 24, 2019 12:54pm
Sad Indians cannot digest their Modi asked Trump to help them on Kashmir conflict
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Jul 24, 2019 02:18pm
Well Pakistani friends should wait for a week atleast as Trump Sahab has got a habit of giving contradictory statements.
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Jul 24, 2019 02:19pm
@KB , Thus, you agree with what he tweeted about Pakistan, before he cut off aid to Pakistan ?????
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Jul 24, 2019 03:23pm
President Trump is a REAL MAN. He is the only man who stood up to China's unfair trade practices.
I trust him.
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Jul 24, 2019 04:48pm
India denies, but Modi didn't, who is in fact a party here.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:00pm
@Neo Bose, It seems that there are two realities. One that Indians believe and the other what is actually real. That is the problem.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:02pm
Why is India so afraid of mediation. Definitely there is something wrong at their end of affairs. Otherwise come ahead and face the ground realities and give a chance to peace.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:47pm
Moreover when did the US acted as a honest broker. In real world arbitration work when the arbitration decision is acceptable as full and final to both sides.
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Jul 24, 2019 05:53pm
Trump will say anything to get a deal from Pakistan on Afghanistan. Foreign policy is not a real estate deal.
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Jul 24, 2019 06:20pm
I will take Modi’s word over Trump’s any day.
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Jul 24, 2019 06:21pm
India can only say to Trump that Come and MEDITATE in Kashmir.
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Jul 24, 2019 07:24pm
Why to speculate the truth or lie. Let Mr. Modi come to parliament ( Lok Sabah ) and tell the truth.
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Jul 24, 2019 08:10pm
Modi has to come out and say Trump is lying. If not then it means Modi did ask Trump. It’s a lose - lose situation for India.
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Jul 24, 2019 09:14pm
Even a small kid in the sub continent can make out who is lying. Trump has a bad repo - he is sometime stupid. He became President of United State by mocking PM Modi. Even when Trump mentioned Modi meet 2 weeks back and discussed abt Kashmir Imran looked at Trump in surprise.
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Jul 24, 2019 09:18pm
@N_Saq, A very funny obervation
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Jul 24, 2019 09:29pm
It will be good thing if India and Pakistan lowered their stance and talk. Both want to keep eggo and in the mean time so many people are getting hurt.
Sit down talk and resolve the issues.
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Jul 24, 2019 09:29pm
@Shdhsn, Very sensible comment indeed!
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Jul 24, 2019 09:46pm
@Vikas Gurung, absolutely correct
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Jul 24, 2019 09:52pm
@Zafar, Most practical solution but we are not so educated or civilised people to understand this
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Jul 24, 2019 10:27pm
If it is hard to understand India’s position, may I humbly suggest reading China’s position on Tibet. Thank you for trying to understand the obvious.
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Jul 24, 2019 10:55pm
@Enlightened One, Really. What have they accomplished? Dalits, Kashmiris, China, Nepal, Pakistan? What?
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Jul 24, 2019 11:21pm
@Tayyab,
Surely, without any doubt
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Jul 24, 2019 11:47pm
over 70 years have passed with many US presidents have come and gone. Why would India's stance would change now. Trump just talks randomly everyone knows that.
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