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No to CPEC unless Pakistan provides trade access to India: President Ghani

Dawn.com Published October 25, 2017
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Afghan President Ashraf Ghani has said that his country will not be a part of the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) unless it is given access to Pakistan's Wagah and Attari border, DNA India reported on Wednesday.

Addressing a gathering at the Vivekananda International Foundation in New Delhi, Ghani said that Kabul will restrict Pakistan's access to central Asia if it is not given access to India through the CPEC project, according to the DNA article.

The comment comes a week after a meeting took place between representatives of Afghanistan, China, Pakistan and the United States in Oman, in which the revival of peace talks with the Taliban was discussed.

"Sanctuaries are provided, logistics are provided, training is provided, ideological base is provided [...] Pakistan has come to a juncture and it needs to make a choice," DNA quoted Ghani as saying. "Our reaction will be determined by its [Pakistan's] choices."

According to DNA, the Afghan president also welcomed India's new role in Afghanistan as discussed in the new US policy for the region.

Ghani termed the Trump administration's South Asia strategy a "game-changer" for the region as it "recommends multi-dimensional condition-based approach for the region."

Ghani visited India just a day after US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson's surprise visit to Afghanistan.

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AQ
Oct 25, 2017 02:44pm
:D no one needs your consent on this issue mr ghani
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vikas_j
Oct 25, 2017 02:44pm
This is power of modi ji speaking. An honor to be from his country.
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Arshad
Oct 25, 2017 02:44pm
Yeah Sure, also move out all Afghan refugees to India too.....
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SHAHID SATTAR
Oct 25, 2017 02:45pm
Please keep out of it for good. Pakistan has nothing to lose if you show off your tantrums on this issue.
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Zia
Oct 25, 2017 02:45pm
no way to access them in CPEC way to india.
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Sailesh Akkaraju
Oct 25, 2017 02:50pm
I just read a beautiful interview of Husain Haqqani, and he said " South Asia is the least integrated region in the world. Half of Europe’s trade is within Europe and half of ASEAN’s (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) is within ASEAN. In South Asia, intra-regional trade is only 5% of the total trade of the countries in the region, which is abysmal." I am not able to understand why the powers that be in Pakistan, not see that regional trade will bring benefit to all people in the region whether they be Indian, Pakistani or Afghani.
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asif
Oct 25, 2017 02:50pm
Pakistan should close its borders with Afghanistan through all Afghan refugees back and stop doing any trade with them take action against all terrorists inside and make country stronger economically and militarily
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Syed Imtiaz Abbas
Oct 25, 2017 02:50pm
CPEC is for all countries who want to do trade and not for those who want to create problems in trade. India is the main problem in Asia and it is also advisable to Afghanistan to keep distance from India if want to prosper and be secured.
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A Fellow Pakistani
Oct 25, 2017 02:52pm
Afghan government is more or less Kabul government. Even Kabul is not a good place for any sort of foreign investment. What on earth is Mr. Ghani talking about when he says he will not give Pakistan access to Central Asia? As if he has the power!
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Pashtoon
Oct 25, 2017 02:52pm
Ghani is becoming part of new great game in favor of India. Pakistan has provided access to Afghan Goods to India but does not allow India access via Pakistan to Afghanistan. If Afghanistan block this route to central Asia, Pakistan has alternative route via Kashgar to Kyrgyzstan and beyond. Afghanistan will suffer, If Pakistan block Afghan goods into India. Afghanistan will lose its own part of USD 220 m trade with India too.
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Sane sid
Oct 25, 2017 02:53pm
Its a surprise... Leader of a war torn country has been bold enough in his decision making as compared to a more stable Nuclear armed Pakistan. All it takes is good intentions.......
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Alvi
Oct 25, 2017 02:54pm
Thank you for your advise!!
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Nomi Goraya
Oct 25, 2017 02:54pm
Just a since advice that for Afghanistan it is better to focus at home and develop some better skills of photoshop to show peace and prosperity in country we know what we need you can direct all your trade via Chabhar and we can reach to central Asia via China problem solved
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Abhay
Oct 25, 2017 02:56pm
Yes this is the right approach.
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Syed Saad Ahmed
Oct 25, 2017 02:57pm
Sure, Mr. Ghani. Your objection has been duly noted.
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Salman
Oct 25, 2017 03:00pm
Pakistan could get the access from China. Why to pass from Afghan territory.
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Syed Ahsan Subhan
Oct 25, 2017 03:00pm
Wow.. All this coming from someone who's failure to get their own house in order is evident globally. We should open wahgah and Atari but should send all afghan refugees across as part of the deal
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Bikram
Oct 25, 2017 03:01pm
A true friend of India.
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Afzal Nadir
Oct 25, 2017 03:02pm
lol....u r unable to control just Kabul and talking loudly...u should ashamed to blame and taunt the country which fed and kept you decades while sitting in the country which just gives u lip services ....
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Sameer
Oct 25, 2017 03:03pm
Afghanistan is run bu US & India. Thankless Afghanistan Government. Still millions of Afghan refugees live in Pakistan
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Sohrab Qaiser
Oct 25, 2017 03:03pm
Pakistan has to take a firm decision about Afghanistan.We should stop the Afghan transit trade. Send back all Afghan refugees. We should hurriedly cordon our border with Hindu Afghan regime. Afghanistan was the country who opposed Pakistan in UN in 1947. ..
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Umar
Oct 25, 2017 03:08pm
Thank goodness for that now that you have played your ace card we know where you stand
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Qasim
Oct 25, 2017 03:09pm
Afghanistan needs Pakistan, not the other way around - already been taking care of 3 million Afghan refugees for over 30 years now!. Good luck with your supposed plans, Mr Ghani, can already see how well you're doing with your country.
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Haroon Rashid Khan
Oct 25, 2017 03:11pm
Afghanistan has access to India, but India does not have access to Afghanistan. Normally Afghan trucks are allowed to bring goods to Indian border and they have to return back from there.
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Hamid Hussain
Oct 25, 2017 03:11pm
Ghani wants Afganistan to be trapped in a ditch..
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Dr Biswas Amardeep
Oct 25, 2017 03:12pm
Fron this month India has started sending wheat to Afghanistan via Iran. High value trade is by air. Pakistan should consider their request looking at the fact that these are daily consumption food items.
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thuglife
Oct 25, 2017 03:13pm
Shame on these Afghans who were given shelter in Pakistan and now they stand with India.
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Wajid
Oct 25, 2017 03:17pm
Its so disgraceful that you speak India's language in India. Don't make fun of Afghans, have some grace.
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John
Oct 25, 2017 03:17pm
There is no CPEC anyway. Just shouting CPEC CPEC every other day doesn't turn it into a reality. The project has to be economically viable.
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Anti-Corruption_Pakistani
Oct 25, 2017 03:19pm
Now President Ghani is speaking India's language about CPEC and trade facilities. This was known for a long time and now fully exposed - all this is part of a game that USA is involved along with Afghanistan to undermine both China and Pakistan.
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Hassan
Oct 25, 2017 03:24pm
Pakistan will stretch CPEC through Afghanistan to all the way to CARs while Afghanistan will have access to Pakistani ports ... DEAL?
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PrakashG
Oct 25, 2017 03:24pm
CPEC is dead, now that US has spoken against it. Sooner rather than later, China is going to quietly put a lid on it.
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M singh
Oct 25, 2017 03:26pm
It's not good we should sit around the table and find out a solution acceptable to everybody......
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Zein
Oct 25, 2017 03:28pm
Ghani is a betrayer Pakistan paying prices since Soviet occupation.
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Uzair
Oct 25, 2017 03:28pm
Maligning someone and putting something in a threatening tone publicly is a sure way not to get that particular thing done. I'm sure he is well aware of it and as such his plans must be different from what one would deduce from this statement. But for the record, as far I remember correctly, Afghanistan did have access through Pakistan to Indian border, but India didn't to Afghanistan's. And it is unreasonable for Afghanistan to expect Pakistan to change its policy towards Afghan-Indian relations concerning Pakistan, while they don't.
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SHAHID SATTAR
Oct 25, 2017 03:28pm
No to your whims and fancies unless you stop any and all activities taking place from your country against Pakistan by any one whomever it may be.
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Bilal
Oct 25, 2017 03:30pm
I wonder if he is representing Afghanistan or india.
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usman
Oct 25, 2017 03:30pm
Good. No need for your yes
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Ahmed bin Babar
Oct 25, 2017 03:32pm
So the india is dying for the CPEC while the little Afghanistan is playing as a broker...
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Kashif Khan
Oct 25, 2017 03:36pm
Pakistan can easily bypass Afghanistan via China to get to central Asia.
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HK
Oct 25, 2017 03:36pm
Mr. President, as expected from you, all Pakistanis should understand their neighbors loyalties and priorities.
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Jamal
Oct 25, 2017 03:36pm
So the cat is out of the bag.Afghanistan is India's strategical interest.
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Lone_Ranger
Oct 25, 2017 03:37pm
Meanwhile yesterday India announced to make 44 new economic corridors and we have CPEC
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Kashkijiro San
Oct 25, 2017 03:38pm
Pakistan is not LANDLOCKED Mr. President!!!!!!!!
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Joe
Oct 25, 2017 03:39pm
All would look after interest of their country first.If this is in their interest well grant it to him.
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S.Ali
Oct 25, 2017 03:40pm
Mr President, joining CPEC will be in your interest, not the other way round. Pakistan don't need Afghan territory to gain access to central Asian states.
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Justice
Oct 25, 2017 03:41pm
This is real proof that Aghan President Ashraf Ghani has his own personal agenda, it would have been nice if he demand Indian to give freedom to Kashmir in lieu of Pakistan would allow access to CEPEC TO Afghanistan and Indian, otherwise there shall not be any deal.
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Muhammed ali UK
Oct 25, 2017 03:43pm
Bold statement for a man who is not in control of even half his country. Perhaps his next statement should be " all Afghan refugees please come home" I will not hold my breath.
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itrat khaliq
Oct 25, 2017 03:47pm
We will see.
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Pady
Oct 25, 2017 03:48pm
It's a big news.
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Gautam
Oct 25, 2017 03:50pm
CPEC is only a connectivity to and from China. It will be a sham if there is no connectivity between South and Central Asia; and Afghan President is right.
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Sher Khan
Oct 25, 2017 03:50pm
We don't need your participation Mr President, a truly elected president of Afghan people will love to join COEC, at later stage.
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myview
Oct 25, 2017 03:52pm
Sounds only fair.
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Zakota
Oct 25, 2017 03:54pm
Ghani has no control over Afghanistan, how can he comment for Afghanistan
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Javid Afghani
Oct 25, 2017 03:55pm
**This is called a real Game-Changer U-Turn. Now let’s play the border closing game. LoL**
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Prateik
Oct 25, 2017 03:56pm
Pakistan, Afghanistan and India are brothers and should co-operate with each other.
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Mango man
Oct 25, 2017 03:56pm
That is on expected lines. Lets see if politicians from af-pak-india can get over this animosity and get on with trade and not just harp on chabahar and cpec.
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Aslam Qadri
Oct 25, 2017 03:56pm
Excellent way to teach lesson.
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naqeeb
Oct 25, 2017 03:57pm
Mr. Ghani we know whom language you are talking... anyway be sincerer to your country.
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Robert
Oct 25, 2017 03:59pm
That is a very fair request from President Ghani
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Irfan_Sydney
Oct 25, 2017 03:59pm
@Arshad well said.
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Zain Khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:02pm
Just wondering what our government answer would be. My answer is get stuffed mate. Please Ghani take your Afghan refugees living in Pakistan for decades, home or better still pass them over to your friends in India. Very ungrateful lot indeed.
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Anti-Corruption_Pakistani
Oct 25, 2017 04:02pm
Cat is now out of cage and demanding her desire - this is exactly what President Ghani has said, as he was instructed by his masters!
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Idrees
Oct 25, 2017 04:03pm
Nonsense. He should learn from karzai
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AdNan 2
Oct 25, 2017 04:03pm
@SHAHID SATTAR Please keep out of it for good. Pakistan has nothing to lose if you show off your tantrums on this issue. Very well said.
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mhw
Oct 25, 2017 04:04pm
We know what to do. You do more!!! Understand!
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Aman
Oct 25, 2017 04:05pm
No Need Afghanistan, Afghanistan is insensitive to Pakistan as always. thank you Mr. Ghani the ruler of 10% of Afghanistan appointed by foreign powers!
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ABE
Oct 25, 2017 04:06pm
Speaking for his master! These ungrateful Afghans can never be our friends or brothers. If it hadn;'t been for Paksitani generosity, Afghans would be speaking Russian now.
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Mohammad Urooj
Oct 25, 2017 04:07pm
Is it the American's or Indian's more saltier?
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Rahim proud Indian Kashmiri
Oct 25, 2017 04:08pm
I believe in Afghanistan president Mr Ghani.
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Rehan
Oct 25, 2017 04:08pm
@asif Very rightly said, but going by your logic one must also open the doors of their minds before opening the borders for trade.
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prashant
Oct 25, 2017 04:08pm
thats fair enough
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Do more/Drone more
Oct 25, 2017 04:10pm
Good decision by Afghanistan.
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SCP
Oct 25, 2017 04:11pm
@asif Good thought, can it be possible with limited resources?
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timetostopthis
Oct 25, 2017 04:12pm
@Hamid Hussain You have thrown Afghanistan into a dtich and India is helping them to get out of it.
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m.khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:15pm
cpec route should bypass afghanistan
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Muhammad
Oct 25, 2017 04:15pm
I think we in Pakistan need to take a step back and rethink everything. We can't go on having troubled relations with our neighbors even India in long term. Let them use our corridor. We will be making money from that too (afghans and Indians won't be using it for free) plus our exports have already plummeted towards Afghanistan sot where is no point of that getting affected. We can't just be dependent upon china for trade we need more partners
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Zain Khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:16pm
@Arshad Agree,move all the Afghan refugees over to your friends in India.We have cared for them for decades,with no appreciation from Afghan Govt.
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sam
Oct 25, 2017 04:16pm
Afghanistan has become irrelevant on this account for Pakistan
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Afghani
Oct 25, 2017 04:18pm
Bravo Mr.Ashraf Ghani. High respect Iron man. Love you.
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Salim
Oct 25, 2017 04:18pm
India will soon find out its how soon it will loose its new found love of US-AF
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M. Atif Khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:19pm
oh really, but just a few months ago you said you had started transferring cargo through air and you didn't need Pakistan. I guess not much demand for your air cargoed pomegranates.
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tariq
Oct 25, 2017 04:19pm
@Abhay You mean the Indian (I mean Afghan ) approach?
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UN
Oct 25, 2017 04:21pm
Perhaps Mr. Ghani has forgotten that Pakistan had urged both Afghanistan and India to join CPEC. Moreover, China under its OBOR initiative has an exclusive provision for an Indian corridor as well. Mr. Ghani is only looking for a zero-sum game when it comes to normalization of economic and trade relations when it involves Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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Javed
Oct 25, 2017 04:23pm
Pakistan must purse it's own National Interest, that is the right thing to do.
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khanm
Oct 25, 2017 04:24pm
And we fought for you against the Soviet invasion, fought side by side for the preservation of your freedom and cultural values and what do we get in return? I don't blame them 100 percent I would rather blame us for not having the political vision consistent foreign policies and being incompetent. Sir with due respect...Talent is God-given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. The conceit is self-given. Be careful..
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Bipul
Oct 25, 2017 04:24pm
There’s nothing moving on CPEC anyway, so I am not sure what Mr Ghani is talking about. If Afghan-Pak-India starts mutual trade then nothing can stop us from beating the world.
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Not Amused
Oct 25, 2017 04:24pm
Talk about your own self, why become a spokes person of somebody else.
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kamran
Oct 25, 2017 04:24pm
Ashraf Ghani is president of Kabul 50% of Afghanistan's control are in had of Taliban.
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Nizamuddin ahmad aali
Oct 25, 2017 04:24pm
True color of ghani
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Arham
Oct 25, 2017 04:25pm
Look who is threatening Pakistan.Good suggestion by Mr Arshad. Send all refugees to India. Afghans have lots of love for India. Permanently seize the border.
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Shiraz
Oct 25, 2017 04:28pm
CPEC will bypass Afghanistan to gain access to CAS :) Mr. Ghani needs to learn his geography.
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aamir
Oct 25, 2017 04:29pm
pakistan must send all refugees to aghanistan
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kamran
Oct 25, 2017 04:35pm
It is afghan history to be under influence by other country , Mr.Ghani taking his nation to again the same path. How he passed statement where he has no full control of Afghanistan
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Sardar khan Tarar
Oct 25, 2017 04:37pm
hahaha... CPEC really is bothering India so much that they had to beg a NOBODY for such statement...Pakistan is on a right track indeed...!!!
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usman
Oct 25, 2017 04:39pm
@PrakashG whatever
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jawaid
Oct 25, 2017 04:39pm
Our leaders and planners need to realize that Afghanistan is more friendly to India and shall always remain so. It will never miss an opportunity to harm our country.
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usman
Oct 25, 2017 04:40pm
@Pady its nothing
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A. Khalid
Oct 25, 2017 04:40pm
Take your Afghani migrants back to Kabul
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Hawkins
Oct 25, 2017 04:41pm
Pakistan doesn`t need Afghanistan to access the Central Asian states when it could easily do so via Iran and China-Tajikistan i.e. Wakhan Corridor root. This self imposed isolation apparently wouldn`t do Afghanistan any good
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usman
Oct 25, 2017 04:41pm
@Mohammad Urooj niceee one
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Pakistani National
Oct 25, 2017 04:43pm
Pakistan must now send ALL Afghan refugees back to their homeland immediately and built a border fence. They also need to put in place tighter controls and check on Afghan Transit trade.
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Aslam Qadri
Oct 25, 2017 04:45pm
If CPEC can't enter via Afghanistan then its Dead-End at Gawadar, Having access to Central Asia via China will not be strategically relevant to Pakistan. Personally, I don't think China will be interested to go via Afghanistan to Central Asia due to security concerns, China via CPEC is just bothered about the Indian Market, which Indians will not give access too, China already has a complete domination in Pakistani markets.
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Mandy
Oct 25, 2017 04:45pm
India along with U.S.A are the real super powers and will rule the world for next 100 years, good to see that Afghanistan wants to come along and experience the development.
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Laeeq Ahmed
Oct 25, 2017 04:46pm
Is India ready to take refugees through the route?
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Keen Observer
Oct 25, 2017 04:46pm
A Corridor from South East Asia via South Asia to Central Asia is also Important.
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Shahzad Ishaq Khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:51pm
Afghanistan will be India Part 2, Pakistan is watching.
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ga
Oct 25, 2017 04:51pm
So India is desperate to be part of CPEC now?
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Justice NARADA MUNI
Oct 25, 2017 04:54pm
@Ahmed bin Babar : So the india is dying for the CPEC Can you kindly tell the world what this CPEC is today? and why India is dying for it?.
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London Kundon
Oct 25, 2017 04:57pm
A great and bold statement.
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Khan
Oct 25, 2017 04:57pm
We don't need Afghanistan to get to Central Asia. That's the beauty of CPEC - we have access via Kashgar China!
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Justice NARADA MUNI
Oct 25, 2017 04:58pm
@ABE : If it hadn;'t been for Paksitani generosity, Afghans would be speaking Russian now soon you will have to speak Chinese. Hope you are learning..
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South Asia
Oct 25, 2017 04:59pm
@Nomi Goraya last time pakistani trucks triet to go through china, they were treated like criminals for no reason, let alone levying of tollon Pakistani trucks. Higher than mountains Deeper than oceans Sweeter than honey
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Arshad Mahmood
Oct 25, 2017 05:00pm
Pakistan should send all Afghans back and tell Mr Ghani to do one. We will see if India will host all Afghan refugees. What help did give his country when they were invaded by the Russians?
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Farhan
Oct 25, 2017 05:01pm
We will loose over 5 billions trade with Afghanistan.
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Muhammad Farhan
Oct 25, 2017 05:02pm
do you have access in afghanistan Mr. Ghani?
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Bikram
Oct 25, 2017 05:02pm
@Arshad Ask your govt. to sent them back and they won't because they are getting aid.
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IRFAN
Oct 25, 2017 05:02pm
@Arshad Good sggestion
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Farhan
Oct 25, 2017 05:04pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas when we talk about trade them nothing should come in between.
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truth
Oct 25, 2017 05:05pm
i wonder who is behind mr ghani
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truth
Oct 25, 2017 05:06pm
take your refugees first.
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ZH
Oct 25, 2017 05:07pm
What about three million refugees in Pakistan? Do you have ability to take them back or should we take a step against them?
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Maqsood
Oct 25, 2017 05:09pm
This is not his language.
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Prashant
Oct 25, 2017 05:10pm
Afghan trucks return empty.. from India.. hence it is bad for Afghan business.. I guess its only logical.
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Maqsood
Oct 25, 2017 05:10pm
At least say something on your own well.
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Mubashir Munir
Oct 25, 2017 05:11pm
Mr Ashraf Ghani saheb kindly take your afghan refugees from Pakistan, we should disconnect all relations with Afghanistan
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Shahid
Oct 25, 2017 05:12pm
Punctual trains do not wait for passengers. Let him wait for 'access'.
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Vineeth
Oct 25, 2017 05:12pm
@A Fellow Pakistani The most direct and economical route from Pakistan to Central Asia runs via Afghanistan. The only other option is a costly detour via China.
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Thug
Oct 25, 2017 05:14pm
Talk about your own self and stop being the spokes person of India.
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yaseen
Oct 25, 2017 05:15pm
Awww... that is cute!
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Rokonaka tunni
Oct 25, 2017 05:17pm
Mr Ghani wanted to ignite strong reaction from Pakistan and soon he and his counterparts will see.
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Sajjad
Oct 25, 2017 05:18pm
India is a hostile country towards pakistan.afghanistan has no right to advocate indian interests.its total disgusting and lack of shame..pakistan shoul stop transit trade with afghanistan and let ashraf ghuni to beg india for wheat rice salt meat cement etc what he is getting easily through transit trade
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timetostopthis
Oct 25, 2017 05:18pm
Ofcourse he is right. Its a fair demand.
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timetostopthis
Oct 25, 2017 05:19pm
@sam The question is how relevant is Pakistan to everyone else.
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Harmony
Oct 25, 2017 05:20pm
What is CPEC use to Pakistan without Access to Central Asia via Afghanistan? How Does it Make Money out of CPEC? Your Debts will only Mount because of the Massive Investments. Only China Benefits...
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timetostopthis
Oct 25, 2017 05:21pm
@Muhammad Very sensible comment. Sadly your leaders are not capable of thinking as wisely as you do.
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Harmony
Oct 25, 2017 05:21pm
One of my Neighbours told me they Export Engineering Equipment to Pakistan via Dubai at 3 times the Price. Good for Pakistan.
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sid
Oct 25, 2017 05:24pm
Kindly ask India to open borders for all afghan refugees in Pakistan.. or should we air drop them to India!!
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Oscar
Oct 25, 2017 05:31pm
Every comment is natural ,emotional and impulsive response. Think logically, trade through Pakistan will generate tones of revenue , employment and permanent infrastructure. This will make India dependent upon Pakistan . The reduction in defense and money can used build homes for poor, hospitals and schools. The doors for outside investors will open . Think fir a minute the impact.
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Ali
Oct 25, 2017 05:33pm
Who is Mr. Ghani?
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Akram
Oct 25, 2017 05:35pm
Ghani Sb, you need CPEC, not vice versa.
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Milosovitch
Oct 25, 2017 05:37pm
@AQ : Surely, CPEC authorities need Mr. Ghani's official OK to pass through Afghanistan on its way to Central Asia!
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jssidhoo
Oct 25, 2017 05:43pm
Mr Ghani your point is valid, you may have achieved what you want if you had conveyed the same message to Pakistan directly through diplomatic channels . If the aim is to get access for trade that is the way to do it .
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OZ
Oct 25, 2017 05:44pm
@asif I agree
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Boby
Oct 25, 2017 05:45pm
@Muhammad - ji : well said! The best part is everyone makes money and generates employment. Besides no loans would be needed if all countries agree to fund the connectivity highway.
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Pir Roshan
Oct 25, 2017 05:49pm
CPEC is dead on arrival as commercial project if India & Afghanistan & Central Asia are out. Ghani has brought Afghanistan a long way, could challenge any unfair deal. The trade between AF-PAK is on free fall & for this financial year it will be less than $600m. Very unfortunate for Asia. we are trenched & walled from 3 sides, only open to china.
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Human being
Oct 25, 2017 05:51pm
@A Fellow Pakistani pak has all the power than the afghan in Afghanistan it seems.
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Anusri Tripathi
Oct 25, 2017 05:54pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju The leaders of South Asian countries are short sighted and strong headed.
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Zubaid
Oct 25, 2017 05:55pm
Great
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Zak
Oct 25, 2017 05:58pm
I always said, bypass Afghanistan and use Iran , Turkey route to Central Asia. Restrict Afghanistan goods exported via Karachi port. And its a ' NO' to Indian access until Kashmir UN plebiscite.
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Observer
Oct 25, 2017 06:00pm
Mr Sharif said during OBOR meet in China that Economics and Politics should not be mixed when India opposed CPEC , but he views are different when it comes India - Aghan - Pakistan trade .
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Waseem sarwar
Oct 25, 2017 06:00pm
Did we even invited him to join CPEC?
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Usman Khan
Oct 25, 2017 06:02pm
Interesting. Considering that India has already turned down the offer to join CPEC from China. Looks like it is having double thoughts about the decision but doesn't want to admit it's mistake. Hence the indirect way of being asked to join.
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Mumtaz Baig
Oct 25, 2017 06:03pm
President of an occupied country can not talk with dignity. The president of the occupied country can not afford to have his own refugees back is threatening a country who is feeding their millions in Pakistan. This is what occupation does to nations.
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Yasir
Oct 25, 2017 06:03pm
@Arshad true
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saqib ghumman
Oct 25, 2017 06:04pm
CPEC have upset quite a few peoples in neighbourhood!!!
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Ansar
Oct 25, 2017 06:04pm
we do not need Afghanistan to access Central Asia
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Tariq
Oct 25, 2017 06:07pm
@Dr Biswas Amardeep please take 3 million Afghan consumer living on Pakistani soil to India and this will give Pakistan a good reason to allow India trade with Afghanistan , untill India failed to show a good intention the answer is NO WAY NO TRADE . Another important matter must be discussed Pakistan under no circumstances will benefit trade with India since Indian minimum wages are mainly impossible to compete in Pakistan so any attempt to allow a trade with India will for sure cause many industries closure in Pakistan . So forget about the talk of trade with India at this moment untill an appropriate time in future. One important note please fix India poverty problem before you try to help others in region and remember Pakistan know Indian intentions in Afghanistan .
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Atif Khan
Oct 25, 2017 06:08pm
That is a reasonable ask. It is in Pakistan's economic interest to allow Afghanistan road access to India.
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Syed Ahmed, Canada
Oct 25, 2017 06:10pm
Ghana, President of Afghanistan a landlocked country, is dictating terms to another sovereign country on the behest of India or US or both. He seems to be playing with fire.
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Aloo kachaloo
Oct 25, 2017 06:13pm
@Harmony look up the maps China already has road and track to Tajikistan
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Bay Adab
Oct 25, 2017 06:14pm
First he should ensure access to Kabul for al Afghans, beyond Kabul he is Mr. Nobody
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VOICE OF PAKISTAN
Oct 25, 2017 06:17pm
Do you think we don't understand what you are asking for. Why would we allow you free access through our land when you have been found conspiring to destabilize us with the help of India.
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Abdul Ghaffar
Oct 25, 2017 06:17pm
Ghani living in utopian world...
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Amir Ayub
Oct 25, 2017 06:17pm
It is the result that Northern Afghani rulers are ruling Afghanistan instead of Southern part who are more loyal to Pakistan instead of India.
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War & Peace
Oct 25, 2017 06:18pm
@Sane sid , few months from now you will change your statement. Forget that Nuclear Armed Pakistan Stuff. It is like having a hot chick and not able to go to bed with her situation for you guys. Dont even kep harping on the Nuke stuff, very soon you guys will be defanged from your Nukes by IMF & USA itself once your country collapses due to economy which you guys all the time keep crying that it is due to this & that country etc. It is all becos of your successive Civilian & Military Governments & Regime. These Nukes will fall into the hands of the various terror outfits and the best thing they are known to do is explode one within Pakistan to prove a point. Just make sure you are not anywhere near when that happens.
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Truth@world.com
Oct 25, 2017 06:19pm
@Arshad Stop calling them refugees...they are living in their own land. They had never accepted Durand line. Just hand over the NWFP to Afghans & stop interfering in their matters.
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Raja Farhat Abbas
Oct 25, 2017 06:19pm
@Tariq ...Well said my brother.!
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Tima J
Oct 25, 2017 06:19pm
To all those saying Afghan should take back refugees. Well they are not refugees if Afghanistan doesn't accept Durand line.
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pardesi
Oct 25, 2017 06:20pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju this is the reason we are part of one road one belt, but India is not. Wonder why?
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Raja Farhat Abbas
Oct 25, 2017 06:21pm
@Pir Roshan ...In your opinion for what that is worth.!
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Khakanbabar
Oct 25, 2017 06:22pm
Pakistan , please get rid of all the Afghans I Pakistan . Let Ghani feed them. Pakistan has done more than enough for Afghanistan .
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ample reverence 4 KSA & Pak Army
Oct 25, 2017 06:26pm
Another Afghani BADMASHI under the shadow of Indian government and Pakistani pethatic foreighn policy.
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anirb1
Oct 25, 2017 06:30pm
@Tariq Afghanistan has given their views. Where is President Ghani wrong. He has to see his nation's interest. Pakistan has the choice to accept or reject and face the consequence.
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Kamikaze
Oct 25, 2017 06:30pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas so infactuated with everything India, seems India is the only motivation behind the existence of Pakistan against more serious issues that needs to be addressed, No one in India looses sleep over any thing to do with Pakistan .. it’s your own people that is imprisoning you minds with nonsense like this. India has had to deal with pakistan sponsored terrorists in its soil for decades and it is this tactic that has alienated Pakistan in all aspects social economic or sport..
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MYRESPONSE
Oct 25, 2017 06:30pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju You better ask this question with the policy makers in India.
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Satya
Oct 25, 2017 06:30pm
Very good and bold decision.. We should teach a lesson to Pakistan in their own way.
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Aranya
Oct 25, 2017 06:30pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas sure. Afghanistan has been growing astronomically with Pakistan’s support so rpfar. Right?
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Shyam
Oct 25, 2017 06:32pm
Thanks Mr. Ghani. Indians will not forget your brotherly behaviour!
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Khog Badshah
Oct 25, 2017 06:33pm
The dream of Ashraf Ghani regarding their access to India via Pakistan will never come true
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Shakil USA
Oct 25, 2017 06:33pm
@AQ - Very well and agreed.
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ARVIND MISHRA
Oct 25, 2017 06:34pm
Well said Mr Ghani...great leader
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Silent observer
Oct 25, 2017 06:36pm
Seal the borders with Afghanistan and send all Afghan refugees back to their country. Pakistan is not their Khala jee's backyards garden.
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Boby
Oct 25, 2017 06:36pm
@AQ CPEC is death trap for Pakistani economy without India & Afghanistan. Just keep this in mind and you will see this in next 5-6 years.
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Kamikaze
Oct 25, 2017 06:38pm
@Tariq Such a cliched statement .. it’s time u guys find a More valid argument, now Poverty is not new to Pakistan either , except in case of India , managing the largest population in the world and having achieved some many milestones speaks volumes about where we are headed.
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Malik
Oct 25, 2017 06:38pm
Well lets see how much power is left In India n Afghanistan when US pulls its support ....... N US will do that .... It has a track record ...
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Akshay
Oct 25, 2017 06:42pm
@Pashtoon Don't worry Chabahar is going to be fully operational soon.
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STRAIGHTFORWARD
Oct 25, 2017 06:43pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju Indian government has refused to give permission to its Cricket Team to play against Pakistan. If this is the attitude how can you expect trade between the two countries.
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PAKPUKA
Oct 25, 2017 06:44pm
@Tariq : Pakistan caused the flood of refugees, decimated Afghanistan civil society and economic abilities for about 30 years, in the wet dream of strategic depth. Pakistan needs to host these refugees for the next 30 years and pay reparations to Afghanistan for meddling in its internal affairs. On top of that, Pakistan as a muslim country needs to take in the 500K Rohingyas. India is only trying to help Afghanistan stand up on its feet and be a free, liberated and economically strong society that it was before Pakistan spread its religious fanaticism.
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Dr.Lovely Singh
Oct 25, 2017 06:45pm
@Syed Ahsan Subhan First keep your house in order gentleman, then preach Afghans. Afghanistan is the "Cross Road of Asia" and geographically its the Afghanistan which is central to Rise or Fall of "Asian Century". It's not Pakistan, Neither India Nor China.!!! Hats off Afghanistan and Afghan for their guts to face the mighty powers throughout it's own history and none of them succeed to occupy the whole Afghanistan.
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Khwarizmi
Oct 25, 2017 06:46pm
Ghani is overestimating Afghanistan´s role in CPEC which is a Pakistan-China trade link. I believe Pakistan should never accept a trade route via Afghanistan even if they give the green signal and should explore the Kashgar route to Central Asia. Afghanistan might risk losing her trade route to India via Pakistan with this sort of negativity.
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 06:47pm
It was India that chose not to be part of CPEC. then why blame Pakistan. If India would have joined CPEC, Pakistan have to objection giving access to both India and Afghanistan..... Its a self-inflicted wound for India....
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Haider
Oct 25, 2017 06:47pm
The lamb talks, uttering whatever its master commands.
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Syed
Oct 25, 2017 06:48pm
If Afghanistan is going to be difficult, and keep demanding India to be factored in CPEC, then Pakistan must block Afghan-Pakistan border and send all their refugees back. Further, Pakistan & China must find an alternate route. The Afghan President is playing into the hands of his American "masters" and being nudged by India. When will Pakistani leaders wake up to the conspiracy against Pakistan?
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Kabeer
Oct 25, 2017 06:49pm
All Afghan refugees should be sent back to Afghanistan immediately and all borders with Afghanistan should be sealed permanently
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Zoraiz Zafar
Oct 25, 2017 06:49pm
As if CPEC is dependent on your opinion, Mr. Ghani! If I were you I'd be more concerned regarding the worsening security situation.
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Someone
Oct 25, 2017 06:49pm
@PrakashG : Hahaha. Time will tell who has the last laugh. Unlike CPEC, Chahbahar is all air and no substance. No development plan, monetary layout, future vision etc. Just political rhetoric. And last time I checked, rhetoric doesn't make economic corridors.
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munir
Oct 25, 2017 06:50pm
President Ashraf Ghani, please talk about your country only.. Is your country developed enough to even pass any comments?
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Kabeer
Oct 25, 2017 06:51pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju "I am not able to understand why the powers that be in Pakistan, not see that regional trade will bring benefit to all people in the region whether they be Indian, Pakistani or Afghani" Please give this lecture to your Government who withdrew from Iran Gas pipeline under the pressure of US
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 06:51pm
@PrakashG Please pay attention to your own economic fallout... Thanx... :)
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ruliaram
Oct 25, 2017 06:52pm
How will pakistan go to Central Asia. India already has Chabahar with Iran.
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 06:54pm
@Vineeth We will go for it .. .Thanx for your economical suggestion
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Rana
Oct 25, 2017 06:55pm
@vikas_j Ghani z nothing more than an Indian tout; who has no control over 60% of Afghan territory. Pakistan needs to cut Indian excess to Afghanistan, Gawarder ll do nicely even to resist India from chahbahar. Pakistan is just noting ghani statements; let the cpec be complete, India n Afghan would beg to join cpec. Cpec is not a project, it's game changer.
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RN
Oct 25, 2017 06:55pm
he can only dream of that.
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Sab
Oct 25, 2017 06:56pm
Send all these 2.4 million refugees to India... afghans will never learn from their history.... let them be like the way they want ... best wishes ... P.S CPEC access to India --- ask your masters to request it directly to us ... we will consider ...
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Sane sid
Oct 25, 2017 06:56pm
@Arshad Afghanis do not believe in Durand Line and so they are technically inside Afghanistan.... they are not refugees anymore
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kdp
Oct 25, 2017 06:56pm
Makes lot of sense in economic interest of all countries involved
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Faisal Azeem
Oct 25, 2017 06:57pm
fair deal in my view...we should be fair toothers if we want others to be fair with us
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 06:57pm
@timetostopthis Well good luck... we did the same with them..... :) you should learn from us....
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Changez Khan
Oct 25, 2017 06:57pm
This is the silliest thing I have heard, no wonder Afghanistan will always stay the poorest country in region.
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Simpl man
Oct 25, 2017 06:58pm
India trying, once again, really hard, to mimic western diplomacy, forgetting the fact that it will not and cannot work against Pakistan.
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CP
Oct 25, 2017 06:58pm
@Zia Good, India did not take the part and would not like to join eighter, It is China who, wants India to join to make the CPEC success !!
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Clarification
Oct 25, 2017 06:59pm
@AQ "D no one needs your consent on this issue mr ghani" If you want to use Afghanistan as transit to Central Asia for CPEC - then yes you do.
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Torontonian
Oct 25, 2017 07:00pm
This President of KABUL, is dictating terms on CPEC .... what a joke!! Get your house in order, and if you think your two "guardians/handlers" you are speaking the language of are going to be your true friend, ... well wait and see! They have and never will be your friend, they are only using you and your country to achieve their objectives, you are their proxy .... you NEED Pakistan, Pakistan or CPEC doesnt need you!
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Syed Mahmood Gilani
Oct 25, 2017 07:00pm
Time for Afghanistan people to rise against brainless sold puppet politicians!!!Pakistan is friend of Afghanistan and provided great refugee to its homeless people..You cant ask for help and give threats at same time>>>What a worthless diplomacy!!!
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Arshad patel
Oct 25, 2017 07:01pm
Ghani, Who?
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Shuja Ali
Oct 25, 2017 07:04pm
Who is Mr Ghani? Is he even important?
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Maan
Oct 25, 2017 07:04pm
This is laughable. Who are you anyway?
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Vijay
Oct 25, 2017 07:06pm
Long live Ashraf Gani !
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Zach
Oct 25, 2017 07:07pm
Pakistan can reach central Asia via Iran and china.
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Ahmed
Oct 25, 2017 07:07pm
Have Indians promised a job to Ashraf Ghani after his retirement ?
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Desi Dimag
Oct 25, 2017 07:07pm
India won in Afghanistan.
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Sohail
Oct 25, 2017 07:08pm
Look who's talking
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 07:08pm
Even if Afghanistan give Pakistan access to Central Asia, it is of no use as Afghanistan is not stable enough to risk land route trade through it. Afghan government has not writ outside Kabul (that too would be only 50%) in the country. In this scenario no one will take risk to take land route to transport their goods through Afghanistan... So Mr. Ghani.... go put your house in order and then put terms in front of us....
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PhD
Oct 25, 2017 07:08pm
He and his cabinet have been bribed heavily; now It is not for Pakistan government official only fill their private accounts, do share some loot with Afghan counterparts, and then they will be speaking your language as you wish to.
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Adhrish
Oct 25, 2017 07:08pm
Dude, CPEC is China Pakistan Economic Corridor, there is no word Afghan in there. BTW when are you planning to get back 3 Million documented and another 2.5 million undocumented Afghans back into Afghanistan?? What a thankless nation..
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Clarification
Oct 25, 2017 07:11pm
@Kashif Khan "Pakistan can easily bypass Afghanistan via China to get to central Asia." Take a look at the map. Your manufacturing happens in Punjab, Sond. Would it be coated effective to route things through Kashghar?
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Sane sid
Oct 25, 2017 07:12pm
@sid Pakistan does not have that kind off money to Air Drop so many people at once. Leave Air route, they cannot afford to send these people by Bus...... Naming yourself Sid cannot give you the Wisdom........ :-)
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Zulqarnain Majeed
Oct 25, 2017 07:12pm
@Pir Roshan Trade with china and rest of the world is more than enough for us. We do not need India and war-torn Afghanistan.... Thank you for your advice...
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Morning Star
Oct 25, 2017 07:13pm
@PrakashG Just like they use to say about Pakistan never going to be a nuclear power back in 80s. Pakistan weathered all storms and in comparison this anti-CPEC is not a big deal for them.
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Hindu baniya
Oct 25, 2017 07:16pm
@Kashif Khan Haha its the most stupid thing i have heard till now. China seeks to dominate the central states. It won't allow you to grab that market. It doesn't even allow pakistani baniyas to do business on visa in china. They suspect exchange between xinxiang and pakistan would destabilize the region. And here you are thinking china would allow you access to Central states through china. Nope. Afghanistan is our best bet. Yours and ours. For once use your head over your ideology.
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Khan & khan
Oct 25, 2017 07:17pm
Please take your refuge & we will return the dollar which we got international donations..
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Somu
Oct 25, 2017 07:17pm
@Muhammad , That seems a logical arguments.
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MAS
Oct 25, 2017 07:18pm
Mr. Preisident! You worth nothing
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Abdul Rehman
Oct 25, 2017 07:18pm
The millions of Afghan Refugees staying in Pakistan since 1979 invasion by Soviet Union at that time where was India only Pakistan had given shelter with whole heart to Afghan brethren but unfortunately their leaders had never acknowledged our sacrifices. Please take back all afghan people living in Pakistan to your near and dear India..........................................
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ali
Oct 25, 2017 07:21pm
As if Pakistan and Pakistanis really care.
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Uday Kulkarni
Oct 25, 2017 07:23pm
While Ashraf Ghani has spoken truth; many are quick to point out that look he is speaking India's language; missing the point that"TRADE IS FOR BENEFIT & DEVELOPMENT OF ALL PARTIES" and should be kept out of all other political disputes. India & China has border dispute but trade more than $70 billion/year with trade deficit of $46 billion. China's goods pass through India by road into Bangladesh & trade routes are open. So does it happen in Europe & even central Asia. While China is wanting India & Afghanistan to support CPEC; Pakistan does not allow the trade to happen between Afghanistan & China despite India having provided "Most Favoured Nation" status to Pakistan. The reality is India should be joining hands with Pakistan & China along with Afghanistan to make CPEC successful & Pakistan in turn should open their borders for trade between India & Afghanistan without jeopardising their respective political stands on disputed territories. This will benefit ALL in the region.
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Mazher Bashir
Oct 25, 2017 07:24pm
That dream will never come true.
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Clarification
Oct 25, 2017 07:24pm
@m.khan "cpec route should bypass afghanistan" How exactly? If China is going to access Central Asia through Kashghar, does it even need Pakistan?
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Irfan
Oct 25, 2017 07:24pm
No prob. Stay landlocked Mr. Ghani. Real smart.
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Somu
Oct 25, 2017 07:25pm
@UN, India gave the MFN status to Pakistan long back. You could have reciprocated. Why should we be dependent on a fourth party(China) for trading between ourselves. If resolution of the core issue was the precondition for developing trade ties, the core issue is still there, unresolved. Why is Pakistan so eager now to have India as partner in CPEC.
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FACT AND FINDINGS
Oct 25, 2017 07:28pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas It is needless to advise Afghanistan to revise its policy with respect to India. This country has been under Indian influence since 70 years.
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John sutton
Oct 25, 2017 07:28pm
Peace will return to Afghanistan only when the entire Pakistan-Afghan border is fenced, all Afghan refugees in Pakistan are made to return, and for two years Pakistan closes all movement to and from Afghanistan. Also all extremists in Pakistan should be physically eliminated. Pakistan should concentrate on export trade with the world with lower export tariffs and import-substitution being the main strategy.
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Akshay
Oct 25, 2017 07:32pm
@Syed Ahmed, Canada What is dictating terms? Afghanistan just wants fair deal in trade with Pakistan. Right now Afghan trucks can carry good up to Wagah border and have permission to transport goods from Indian side to Afghanistan. But Pakistan is allowed to way trade with CAR via Afghanistan. So Mr. Ghani wants a fair deal for Afghanistan in trade like Pakistan should provide the same facility as Afghanistan is providing to Pakistan.
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Faraz
Oct 25, 2017 07:35pm
Says the person who has to travel to a US military base to meet the US foreign Secretary. You have no control so please don't pretend otherwise.
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Cyand
Oct 25, 2017 07:36pm
@Tariq Pakistan should take back so many Bihari refugees in Bangladesh....how come Pakistan forgets her own blood-brother???
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marcus
Oct 25, 2017 07:36pm
Who are you please remind again? You should sort your own country out first please we are not interested in your views. I think Pakistan needs to take affirmative action against all Afghanistan refugees in Pakistan time to send the all back now. Shut the border - and watch Afghan take a quick u turn.
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YS-USA
Oct 25, 2017 07:45pm
Pakistan has no trade, no goods to trade with central Asian countries, so what are they worried about.
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Aamir
Oct 25, 2017 07:47pm
@Rahim proud Indian Kashmiri - Small correction here please - Mr. Ghani is the president of Kabul not Afghanistan since he does not control most of the country. He is the new pet for Mr. Modi. He is lately talking big, actually too big for his stature; he is the new mouth piece for Modi govt to flex his muscles (that he does not have) against Pak, ; However, talk is cheap! He is now biting the hand that used to feed him.
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Peace
Oct 25, 2017 07:48pm
Why not. India should get the share too. This is good for the entire region. But India can ask for that directly. No need to come indirectly and by putting conditions.
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Bubble
Oct 25, 2017 07:56pm
@Anti-Corruption_Pakistani the squeeze for all directions have begun. Pakistan should change its policies and become a mainstream nation rather than being isolated due to flawed 19th century policies
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Bubble
Oct 25, 2017 07:58pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju it's because Pakistan never has any vision. CPEC is also a Chinese dream that Pakistan is helping fulfil and hoping to make some money on the side. Lot of Bravado but no ideas on how to build a nation on its own shoulders
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Rajdeep Tyagi
Oct 25, 2017 07:59pm
@asif no country had ever become stronger by closing borders
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zealot
Oct 25, 2017 08:01pm
This is how you run country too?
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Kamath
Oct 25, 2017 08:05pm
@asif : Easier said than done! Pak-Afghanistan border is too long to be sealed, for Pakistan will go bankrupt to do that business!
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wasim
Oct 25, 2017 08:08pm
we have other ideas!
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AM
Oct 25, 2017 08:08pm
Absolutely brilliant
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Ibneadam
Oct 25, 2017 08:14pm
@Gautam Look at the map. Pakistan has alternate options for central Asia plus Pakistan is not land locked. These pressure tactics from India through its cronies will not work.
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Observer
Oct 25, 2017 08:14pm
@Tariq Can you please elaborate minimum wages differece between India and Pakistan? Who is stopping you from deporting 3 million refugees back to Afghanistan, and as a first step, please decline the next instalment of financial aid from UN.
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Sohan
Oct 25, 2017 08:15pm
Not a small statement from Afghan prez. Pak should think seriously about it current position
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PMD
Oct 25, 2017 08:15pm
@Kashif Khan any county can get to any other part of the world. The issue is cost.
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JustnotyourRandomSomeone
Oct 25, 2017 08:16pm
It's amusing how this simple CPEC has trembled the manacles of Afghanistan and the roots of India ,amusing ,simply amusing :)
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L
Oct 25, 2017 08:18pm
Its's amusing how this simple CPEC has trembled the manacles of Afghanistan and the roots of India ,amusing ,simply amusing :)
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taimur
Oct 25, 2017 08:19pm
Better you should be away from cpec
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Sarai Alamgir
Oct 25, 2017 08:22pm
In order to make such a bold statement, one has to be in charge on their country first. The Afghan government only controls Kabul, illegal trade between Pak and Afghanistan will flourish.
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Sarai Alamgir
Oct 25, 2017 08:24pm
@John Stop reading what you are reading and open you mind, you will see CPEC is the buzz in the middleast and China. You continue reading your scripted media channels.
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L
Oct 25, 2017 08:25pm
@Justice NARADA MUNI You have the best answer for that ,I believe
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Yun
Oct 25, 2017 08:26pm
If china ask pakistan to allow afganistan access to india wht will palistan do
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L
Oct 25, 2017 08:26pm
Its's amusing how this simple CPEC has trembled the manacles of Afghanistan and the roots of India ,amusing ,simply amusing :)
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Shaleen Mathur
Oct 25, 2017 08:27pm
@Zia India can access Afghanistan without CPEC. He is talking about Afghanis essential supplies from India like food, medicine etc.
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Amit
Oct 25, 2017 08:29pm
Comment is not for pakistan but rather for China.
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Zeeshan
Oct 25, 2017 08:36pm
Everyone is afraid of CPEC. India, USA, Afghanistan. They all are really enemies of Pakistan. We have to fight and remain move toward our own goal.
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Harmony
Oct 25, 2017 08:39pm
@sid Each Year 40,000 Afghan Students fly to India for Further Studies Sponsored by India Goverment. This is our Investment for Afghanistan Furture.
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Feroz
Oct 25, 2017 08:41pm
Even though the policy of strategic depth continues to bring only grief and isolation to Pakistan, the brainwashed masses are not even in a position to ask for its rollback. What goodies are the Taliban and Haqqani network going to bring for Pakistan, is not even being asked of policy makers.
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SK
Oct 25, 2017 08:41pm
Pakistanis have had just about enough of our neighbors on both sides, especially the rock formations on our west. The first post 911 Afghan president was a US puppet - when he got tired of wagging his tail to the US, they brought in his clone Ghani. He now speaks with His Master's(modi's) Voice - so now there are noisy barks from both sides. I suggest Pakistan should carry out a real 'test' of its nukes - just half dozen or so - to rearrange the rock formations called Afghanistan. Let them hurl a few rocks at us in return. But once the (nuclear) dust settles, there will be some peace in the world. It will push the US out of the region and video footage of the 'new-look' Afghanistan will also tame down the neighbors on the other side.
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Omar Elahi
Oct 25, 2017 08:42pm
Who cares about Afghanistan. The 'country' is an unstable nation in perpetual instability. Last I checked we can bypass them and trade directly via china and Iran.
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Anon
Oct 25, 2017 08:43pm
This Afghan government really like to play loose-loose games and as a result will suffer badly
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kamal
Oct 25, 2017 08:43pm
Why do you think Afghans will and always remain the regional mediocres. And ineffective ones at that. Anyway CPEC is not Pakistani it is Chinese. And no one in his right mind would want to transit through Afghanistan
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Adnan Qamar
Oct 25, 2017 08:46pm
The ideal situation would be where India, Pakistan and Iran work together to make BOTH Gwadar and Chabahar operational and connected. Any route going through Iran to Chabahar and Gwadar would be better than going through the backstabbing, worthless, landlocked and disgraceful Afghanistan. It would be better security wise and Iran and Pakistan both have people who can think (unlike Afghanistan).
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Hind
Oct 25, 2017 08:48pm
CPEC would prove to be a disaster for Pakistan
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Pakistani
Oct 25, 2017 08:52pm
Pakistan should relocate all Afghan refugees to India.
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Mushtaq Ahmed
Oct 25, 2017 08:52pm
Pakistan has done with reaping benifits of super power alliances. Let’s see how India and Afghanistan will benefit from it.
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FAKE_NAXAL
Oct 25, 2017 08:52pm
@Afzal Nadir >to blame and taunt the country which fed and kept you decades Please remember that we are the ones who destabilized them too. I know no one in this comment section is ready to neither bring this up nor accept it.
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B r chawla
Oct 25, 2017 08:57pm
What a pity the People of Pakistan behaving novice in terms of their benefits that would accrue to the when borders thrown open for trade.
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Abdulla Hussain
Oct 25, 2017 08:58pm
Poor PM has no say of his own. Since my childhood I have seen Afghanistan having no say.
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FAKE_NAXAL
Oct 25, 2017 08:59pm
@khanm >And we fought for you against the Soviet invasion Sir, lets also admit that we destabilized them gravely.
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Anti-Crook
Oct 25, 2017 08:59pm
Mr. Ghani must know that Modi won't be a PM forever. So stop using his shoulder to hold your guns. 40 yrs on and we are still hosting 9 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan. We must deport all of them immediately.
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Anirb
Oct 25, 2017 09:01pm
@Tariq The people of Afghanistan came to Pakistan under compulsion and threatening to send them here and there is in very bad taste. They have not told the Afghan President to say, what he said.
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Anirb
Oct 25, 2017 09:01pm
@Ansar Then from where will Pakistan go to Central Asia.
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Anirb
Oct 25, 2017 09:03pm
@Ansar Hope you know Pakistan has borders with 3 countries. India, Iran and Afghanistan. So how will Pakistan reach Central Asia without passing through Iran or Afghanistan.
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Mahmood
Oct 25, 2017 09:05pm
@Justice NARADA MUNI Well let's see: The Chinese are beating the US at their own games - economically, politically, diplomatically and also becoming militarily more assertive. The trade surplus enjoyed by the Chinese against almost every country is something to envy. The Chines are getting ahead while US is falling behind. They are visinories while Trump is blind. That's why they are investing in CPEC to conquer the world through trade and bilateral ties in the 21st century. Guess who's going to win? Hope you start learning Chinese too, or you will be left behind a relic of the 20th century and over reliant on a dying empire United States. Pakistanis will be enjoying doing business with the Chinese Super Power in their own language. Jealous, yet!??
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Shaukat Ali Khan
Oct 25, 2017 09:05pm
Let Afghanistan find its own routes, close border completely.
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Tamza
Oct 25, 2017 09:06pm
@vikas_j mr midi is over/ demonetization disaster was the last desperate act.
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Samir Rahman
Oct 25, 2017 09:07pm
to everyone arrogantly saying block it, and kick afhgan refugees out should be aware india exports rice, lentils, sugar, tea nothing fancy, deadly or luxury
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Star
Oct 25, 2017 09:10pm
We should send the 3 million and seal the border then see how the tone changes. These unthankful people have forgotten the hospitality and sacrifices of Pakistanis to save these people. Indians are not their friends but using them for vested interest and the afghans will realize it in a few years..!
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chand
Oct 25, 2017 09:11pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas So has Pakistan become prosperous because on CPEC.
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Nadir Sadiq
Oct 25, 2017 09:11pm
Oh what is that I notice - A "Dark Brown" spot on the nose..... This guy does not have nay self respect, that is the reason he only rules the shallow people within the security walls
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Bobby Paul
Oct 25, 2017 09:15pm
@Arshad What you call refugee are Afghani hostages in Pakistan and also it is UNO who is paying for their stay in Pakistan
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Vijayendra Kumar
Oct 25, 2017 09:16pm
Increasingly Pak­istan is facing pressure from a number of nations. It is now so very dependent on China for its survival that it will become a satellite of the China. Follow the example of Saudi Arabia where King Salaman is trying to reform the State.
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Bobby Paul
Oct 25, 2017 09:16pm
@asif Please DO. This is good for every one
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Muhammad Saleem
Oct 25, 2017 09:17pm
The access to Central Asia is not so much for Pakistan, it's for China which will gladly match and even exceed two-billion-dollar Indian investment over the last sixteen years in Afghanistan. Afghanistan will do itself a huge favor if it doesn’t meddle in Indo-Pak conflict. Afghanistan needs to learn from Iran which has decided to reap from the benefits of CPEC despite its new port of Chabahar and that too being built by India. Afghanistan can make billions from trade transit duties, just as Iran would. Afghanistan will no longer need to depend on Indian funds,
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Ahmed Ali Khan
Oct 25, 2017 09:17pm
This love between Trump Modi and Ghani only indicates one thing. The forces of evil are united !
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Deepseeker
Oct 25, 2017 09:22pm
@asif That is very fine and just Asif Bhai, but how does that provide access to Central Asia; which is the basic issue under discussion here.
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K Khan
Oct 25, 2017 09:23pm
@AQ You will need their concent to ship product through their country, otherwise CPEC has no value
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lafanga
Oct 25, 2017 09:28pm
India doesn't want to trade with Pakistan. They just want to use the shortest and most direct route thru Pakistan to Afghanistan and the Central Asian stan countries. If Chabahar was anything more than a pipe dream, both Ghani and Modi wouldn't be coming up with these childish antics every other day against Pakistan. Pakistan should simply tell Afghanistan and India that threats won't work at all. If they want to do trade then come to the table and talk else take a hike. On top of that Ghani shouldn't even be thumping his chest like this being president of a warn torn and landlocked country. If he wants to sing Indian tune then leave him to his own devices. He will come to his senses soon.
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hamza K
Oct 25, 2017 09:29pm
@vikas_j india is isolated diplomatically in the region- russia, iran, china all side with pakistan on major issues. you have a goat herding country in afghanistan. yes very good diplomacy by your PM.
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Ehmad
Oct 25, 2017 09:30pm
Everyone here assumes that geography of Pakistans remains unaltered in next 5 years.
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lafanga
Oct 25, 2017 09:30pm
@PrakashG You obviously missed out on President Xi's speech few days back.
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Yas
Oct 25, 2017 09:32pm
This guy is helpless.so we expect these comments from him.
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ali
Oct 25, 2017 09:32pm
Only in Afghanistan will you see the mayor of Kabul is speaking on behalf of the rest of the country lol
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Farhan
Oct 25, 2017 09:35pm
@Sajjad If India is so hostile then why we failed to prove this to the world. Did the world didnt gave us the opportunities. We blamed India in our media but didnt mentioned this on international platforms. Many countries gave proof of our involvement in many international attacks including the neighborhood. International media openly wrote about our involvement. Why we think world is wrong and we are right.
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alba
Oct 25, 2017 09:39pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju ... .... Half of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations' trade is within ASEAN, and the other half is with China.
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Selvan
Oct 25, 2017 09:40pm
@Arshad give back their land, they will live there./
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alba
Oct 25, 2017 09:41pm
@SHAHID SATTAR ... Pakistan has nothing to lose if he shows off his tantrums on this issue, but China does. China is financing the CPEC. Pakistan will have to do as China advises.
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Harris
Oct 25, 2017 09:41pm
Dont need Afghanistan in cpec, seal the border and let them be in isolation
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Seedoo
Oct 25, 2017 09:42pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju We very much see regional trade as the way to go. However, we are not prepared to have our neighbors who depend on their day to day survival on us to dictate to us what to do. We are governed by our own national interests. Regional integration has to be taken in small steps and leaders of a country like Afghanistan should remain humble and be grateful for what the benefits they will reap from integration taking place in small steps. Demanding "all or nothing" will not achieve anything for Afghanistan. All Pakistan has to do is to close its borders for 30 days and force 3 million Afghan refugees back into their country, and that will spell disaster for Afghanistan. Their so called war can also come to an end overnight if Pakistan stops the supply route and air corridors to Afghanistan for US/Nato troops. Mr. Ghani, stop being a mouthpiece of India and start looking out for your own country, but a feudal lord always remains subservient to his foreign masters
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Raheel Khan
Oct 25, 2017 09:43pm
Ha Ha..India don't want to become part of CPEC, I think Ashraf Ghani will convince Modi...I hope he will..
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Tariq, Lahore
Oct 25, 2017 09:44pm
Wagah border should be opened for all Afghan refuge to go oneway to enter India at the earliest as per request of president Gahni!
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Ansar
Oct 25, 2017 09:46pm
Furthermore.. Akal kay Khattay - You would stab a fellow Muslim nation in thr back for the sake of a nation that mistreats Muskims and bit by bit seeks removal of its islamic past in particular the Afghan Conquests of India. Despite what these fools think, they owe Pakistan a debt of gratitude for saving them during their darkest hours. Mr Ghani your an educayed man but not one who is calculated. Educated but one whom can not read the writing on the wall. You are a Pashtun yourself and will let the Tajiks and Uzbeks undermine them for anotjer decade. Keep licking Northern Alliance and Indian boots and I pray because I sincerely respect you that you my brother do not face the same fate of the post Soviet invasion corrupt government leaders. Whether you like Pakistan or not remember we ate more Pashtuns in Pakistan than Afghanistan and we are your blood. Whether you like it or not you have to recognise Pashtuns can no longer be undermined in Qabul to Qandahar, reconcile pls!
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Selvan
Oct 25, 2017 09:48pm
@Qasim "Afghanistan needs Pakistan, not the other way around " really? Did you read the news that they don't even want your truck drivers entering Afghanistan. Stay away. No one need you. Come to your senses.
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Texan
Oct 25, 2017 09:51pm
@Sane sid stable country? Must be joking
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Texan
Oct 25, 2017 09:52pm
Stable country? Must be joking
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Texan
Oct 25, 2017 10:01pm
@Sher Khan does your country run by duely elected government? Check your own house first.
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usman
Oct 25, 2017 10:03pm
With due respect Mr. Ghani does not seem like a person who would have his own opinion, so, i wonder who's behalf is he speaking on ? Just be up-front Mr. Ghani.
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Mushtaq Kaw
Oct 25, 2017 10:03pm
Perhaps, President Ghani is not seized of historical geographical of the region. Pakistan was, earlier , dependent on Afghanistan for access to Central Asia. But, the CPEC has marginalised this dependence, since it skirts Afghanistan and provides Pakistan direct land route access to Central Asia via Khunjrab and Kashghar in Xinjiang China. Kasghar was an ancient trade corridor between Central Asia and Gilgit in present Pakistan. President Ghani needs to relook to his statement in the light of changed scenario, and may read, if he so wishes, my latest article on “The China Pakistan Economic Corridor Between Hope and Fear,” Central Asia Caucasus Analyst, 26 April, 2017; https://www.cacianalyst.org/.../13440-the-china-pakistan-economic-corridor-between-...
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Khan Khana
Oct 25, 2017 10:03pm
@Sailesh Akkaraju India talks of trade only, Kashmir issue, people to people contacts, meeting of divided families and human rights violations in Kashmir and in the rest of India are security related and out of consideration.
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Morh
Oct 25, 2017 10:05pm
What is in Central Asia. No one needs to grow country by exporting their goods to Central Asia. What is the point. This is more topi drama of India and US. Such a waste of words
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Ash20
Oct 25, 2017 10:07pm
Many Pakistanis say that all Afgan refugees should also be sent to India. My question is why? What is the basis of such statements? Refugees came to Pakistan on US-Pakistan request to Pakistan and due to their actions of using Taliban or similar organizations to fight Russians. If there was no fight than there won’t be many refugees. Pakistan participated in this war willingly and was paid handsomely by US with dollars, arms and keeping eyes closed towards nuclear armament. Even UN paid for every registered refugees and even today get paid which is a good foreign currency earner for Pakistan. Please think rationally and find historical facts from various sources.
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Arif
Oct 25, 2017 10:14pm
Pakistan must now return all Afghan refugees.
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Samar
Oct 25, 2017 10:19pm
India is struggling in Kashmir , how will they can rescue USA an Afghanistan with limited resources
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Mr Ghani opps
Oct 25, 2017 10:22pm
By saying this he solved all the problems, lol, by now he might be saying opps!
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Haider
Oct 25, 2017 10:28pm
Its funny, Pakistan doesn't need AFG routes there's one through China that already exists. Second if Pakistan wants they can completely shut down AFG economy by not allowing AFG trucks through Pakistan and access to Pakistani sea ports. Furthermore all refuges can be sent back. This puppet AFG GOVT that only controls half of AFG does not have any strategic depth. So Ghani dont push your luck otherwise you will be in a world of sever pain.
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Abdulla Hussain
Oct 25, 2017 10:28pm
Helpless Afghan PM. can't speak any word of his own.
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Ok it is again
Oct 25, 2017 10:30pm
It is time to turn off the light switch on Afghanistan.
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Raj
Oct 25, 2017 10:40pm
Good move by Afghanistan. Putting the realities on the table.
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Hopeful
Oct 25, 2017 10:40pm
@Arshad Agree with you.
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Raj
Oct 25, 2017 10:43pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas - But sir, the whole world is telling that, paksitan is the problem in asia.
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Sid
Oct 25, 2017 10:45pm
@Ali when you show disdain in talking to a country weaker than you, why you feel bad when a stronger country treats you like that?
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IBM
Oct 25, 2017 10:54pm
Long live Afghanistan and Baluchistan.
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parvez
Oct 25, 2017 10:57pm
so the so-called great hope of CPEC will die a slow death as it reaches the western border of Pakistan?
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Ras
Oct 25, 2017 11:00pm
I am proud to be from Modi country
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AnisAqeel
Oct 25, 2017 11:01pm
@Arshad No need to return Afghan Refugees (they are our civic and brethren responsibility). Just train them and let India bear the costs of detours of Afghanistan supplies and drain them financially until Afghanis and these Refugees take over their country from India. Learn right from Indian strategy that she applied in East Pakistan.
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Ishan
Oct 25, 2017 11:01pm
Has he ever been to a school and studied a bit of geography or at least ever looked at google maps?
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SKS
Oct 25, 2017 11:02pm
Reading the comments, I feel that Pakistan policy making by the leaders are like the man on the street-popular without any gumption. Even after 70 years nothing learnt. Everything is black or white.
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Shakil USA
Oct 25, 2017 11:05pm
Who the hell he is to dictate us. Even they cannot govern own country,
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M.I.Khan
Oct 25, 2017 11:06pm
I think the answer to Afghan is to block afghan transit through Pakistan.
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Zahid Parvez
Oct 25, 2017 11:08pm
One could have taken Mr Ghani seriously about his denying access to Pakistan to Central Asia if he could somehow give access to Rex Tillerson to Kabul itself which is supposed to be Mr Ghani's capital city.Unfortunately his Control over the area only allowed the US Secretary access upto Bagram where all the meetings with Ghani and Abdullah were held.But he sure knows how to talk big!
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ruliaram
Oct 25, 2017 11:11pm
@Kashkijiro San neither is Afghanistan ,it has chabahar
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Khan
Oct 25, 2017 11:16pm
It;s your own choice.. Use the air route. Thanks
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subh
Oct 25, 2017 11:17pm
@Laeeq Ahmed why should india take them? You have taken billions of dollars in aid to help them
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harith
Oct 25, 2017 11:22pm
@asif yor way to central asia will be blocked. Iran also wont allow you. for get about India. where will you go? game over
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harith
Oct 25, 2017 11:23pm
@Pashtoon sure; you end up spendng 1000 times more by using those routes. best wishes
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Ank
Oct 25, 2017 11:24pm
What's bad in doing trade,cpec was all about trade,so why not Afghan India trade, Pakistan will also get benefits from it,also since India can provide medical treatment to Pakistani citizens on humanitarian basis,why can't trade flourish between the three countries.
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Humaira Jahanzeb
Oct 25, 2017 11:29pm
Please leave Pakistan then. Take all your refugees with you
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Kay
Oct 25, 2017 11:35pm
Return Afghanis living in Pakistan.
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totalsiyapa
Oct 25, 2017 11:43pm
@yaseen whats even cuter is pakistan equating itself with India and even more cuter equating itself with America. The total cherry on the cuteness is pakistan's economy is on the verge of collapse with less than $10B in FOREX remaining. So very very cute....
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Amin
Oct 25, 2017 11:44pm
Can you please take your refugees back before you are in a position to take your own decisions what to talk of granting access.
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bechari-awam
Oct 25, 2017 11:54pm
Mr. Ghani, go and eat some donuts and just ponder over its shape too as you may find a hole right in the middle and lot of activity around it. You may then understand where Afghanistan stands in grand scheme of CPEC.
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a
Oct 25, 2017 11:56pm
@Arshad Afghan refugee problem is not India's problem. Every nation has refugees coming in from poor neighbours. Will you take nearly 40 lakh (official figures) illegal Bangladeshi workers living in India ? Stop being a lunatic. We have huge number of poor workers from Nepal as well.
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Ali Bilgrami
Oct 25, 2017 11:56pm
The king of Kabul has spoken proving the legendary. treachery of the Afghan.
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Nasir Jamal Khan
Oct 25, 2017 11:57pm
Dear Mr. Ex President, "I see your true color, shinning through!!'
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Ali Bilgrami
Oct 25, 2017 11:59pm
@Dr Biswas Amardeep The Afghans can starve as far as we are concerned.
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S.hasan
Oct 26, 2017 12:00am
Tone..which has actually changed from Afghanistan side..a bit alarming for Pakistan.Don't know the reasons..but definitely some enemies are urging Afghanistan to deal with Pakistan in such a way.
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a
Oct 26, 2017 12:04am
@asif Pakistan will gain nothing out of blocking Afghanistan. This will only bring them closer to India. Already, India is linking Homruz straits with Afghanistan to bypass Pakistan. I think US and India should man Afghan Pak border and seal it from Pak citizens forever.
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a
Oct 26, 2017 12:05am
@Pashtoon Afghanistan Iran Bombay link is almost ready.
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Guggo
Oct 26, 2017 12:08am
@Bikram # majority of these refugees don't stay in refugee camps.they spread alover; in Punjab,kpk & karachi-sindh.their actual no is more than 5 million.pak govt is not getting any substantial aid of late to look after them.in actual ,they r a big burden on our economy
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Aw
Oct 26, 2017 12:11am
The burn is quiet discernable as well as understandable.
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Naeemullah Shah
Oct 26, 2017 12:18am
The choice is yours, between a dying Super Power and a Rising Super Power. Meanwhile, Pakistan should stop all trading with Afghanistan and politely let the millions of refugees return to either Afghanistan or to India.
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Tariq
Oct 26, 2017 12:20am
@timetostopthis take 3 million plus Afghan and then talk to us after 6 month of the refugees settlements in India . You will beg for the day you agreed to accept them . No deal enjoy Afghanistan but not through Pakistani corridor use Iran or Rusia .
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Sid Noonari
Oct 26, 2017 12:24am
Mr. Ghani Pakistan should have no problem with it . But would you be a guarantor to convince India to accept all the terms and conditions set by Pakistan not by India or Afghanistan? Secondly, In case tomorrow Pakistan accepts whatever you demand, will not India demand more access in the region?
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Chungaizee
Oct 26, 2017 12:31am
@vikasj. Not honoured enough to stick to your own countrys websites. Toi commentator is your class.
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rs
Oct 26, 2017 12:39am
@Arshad Afghan refugees say they are on their own soil.
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Bharat
Oct 26, 2017 12:41am
If I were a Pakistani, I would not be concerned. Pakistan does not need to trade with Central Asia . The Pakistani economy is doing fine- the Pakistani per Capita GDP is higher then a Bangladesh
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Concerned citizen
Oct 26, 2017 12:42am
Go study a map, Pakistan doesn’t need to use Afghanistan to reach Central Asia
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Alam
Oct 26, 2017 12:44am
Ghani is not telling this first time. Whenever he is on Indian soil he issues such statements to please his masters. Ghani is free to stop using Karachi port anf can divert all trade via Chahbhar.
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Shirazi
Oct 26, 2017 12:44am
I agree with President Ashraf Ghani. Economic integration can ensure mutual security. If India is excluded then economic viability of such huge investments will always be up in the air.
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Asim
Oct 26, 2017 12:46am
. .if u r with India then don't try to convince us...b happy with India we r more happy without u
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SyedChaudhryGangaDinKhan
Oct 26, 2017 12:54am
Kick Chinese out of Afghanistan before you make any statements like this.
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karnatakan
Oct 26, 2017 12:56am
@Arshad Actually, why not. India can and should offer to host some Afgahn and Rohingya refugees.
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Gary
Oct 26, 2017 01:17am
@AQ How will you go to central asia?
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Gary
Oct 26, 2017 01:19am
@A Fellow Pakistani So is Pakistan. Nobody wants to play there even , forget investing money.
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Tariq Khan
Oct 26, 2017 01:27am
When will afgahnistan have a leader who thanks about his people instead of obeying other countries,
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DAN
Oct 26, 2017 01:36am
@Afzal Nadir , yes u fed them but they are the reason you got something to feed somebody. think back about the us aids
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Pak PATRIOT
Oct 26, 2017 01:38am
TIME for Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to GO.
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Yaqoot
Oct 26, 2017 01:42am
Pakistan does not need Afghanistan for access to central Asia at all, we can in the long run go to central asia through China, keep in mind both countries have a history of property exchanges, in Kashmir, Pakistan took over parts of Kashmir and ceded them to China. China can provide a 'Trade Corridor' from Northern Pakistan to Xinjiang on to Tajikistan in Central Asia. Hope Afghanistan and India realize that. They need to read a map, Pakistan also has military options at its disposal if they are brave about it, the Wakhan Corridor is a think strip of no mans land that is in Northern Afghanistan. Reluctantly if India tries adventurism in Afghanistan, Pakistan can RANSACK the wakahan Corridor and send troops to take over, this will be a extreme step, one that Pakistan on its own cannot afford to take on, BUT, if China's stakes in the CPEC are high enough this can be done. So Afghanistan should make her own decisions and not listen to the Lalas from across our Eastern border.
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Vijay
Oct 26, 2017 01:46am
@Arshad When are you people stop sending your kids for free medical treatment to India?
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Udayan Mitra
Oct 26, 2017 01:48am
@Tariq : If Afghanistan can import cheap food, India increase exports/profits and Pakistan enhance transit revenues; why are you opposed to allowing Indo-Afghan trade through Pakistan? Looks like a win-win for all parties.
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Cyrus Narielwalla
Oct 26, 2017 01:48am
Pakistan needs to send back all the Afghan refugees back to Afghanistan or India, there are suited there best rather than living here in Pakistan.
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Syed Hassan
Oct 26, 2017 01:50am
Let's see who needs access desperately
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Manu USA
Oct 26, 2017 01:51am
Its right. It will benefit Pakistan, Afghanistan n India.
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Cyrus Narielwalla
Oct 26, 2017 01:51am
Ghani has only 30% control of Afghanistan, rest of the 70% is controlled by Talibans & Daesh, so how can someone live on his words.
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Sajida
Oct 26, 2017 01:52am
He does not know India not part of CPEC?
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Syed Hassan
Oct 26, 2017 01:53am
@PrakashG Really!!
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Abbas kd
Oct 26, 2017 01:53am
Does he even understand that how many Afghans were born in the refugee camps that Pakistani people's generosity provided to millions of them for decades & this is how we get the pay back ?
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Dr. Comedian
Oct 26, 2017 01:57am
Who exactly is going to use the CPEC besides China? All of Pakistan's main 3 neighbors have said NO. Other South Asian countries have said NO. Middle Eastern countries have said NO because it competes with their own ports, US, Japan, Australia & South Korea have said NO. European countries have not expressed any interest. Russia has not expressed any interest. I wonder who will use CPEC unless Pakistan mends its relations with its neighbors & others.
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sri
Oct 26, 2017 02:00am
@Sailesh Akkaraju Very funny you say that Sailesh- it was India that chose to stay out of CPEC. Perhaps for strategic reasons, but it was India that did not want to be a part of CPEC.
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Humaid Khan
Oct 26, 2017 02:01am
Ashraf Ghani Get loss who cares about your views. No Access to India and no access to Afghanistan
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Khalid
Oct 26, 2017 02:12am
After having given refuge to millions of Afghans by Pakistan for decades, Ghani is making all Afghans look ungrateful and untrustworthy. How nice.
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Gary
Oct 26, 2017 02:14am
@Hawkins You can also fly to any country but the cost of doing business will be higher.
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Gary
Oct 26, 2017 02:14am
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas There will be no CPEC.
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Naheem
Oct 26, 2017 02:16am
I wondering if Afghanistan doesn't have any access to international water how they going to do it
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Rehman
Oct 26, 2017 02:16am
Once CPEC is implemented, both India and Afghanistan will come begging to be part of it. It will make us the undisputed leaders in the region.
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Naheem
Oct 26, 2017 02:18am
Someone should give mr ghani the world map, try getting a truce with the taliban before looking at the map it may save you some time pursuing this.
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Rafeh malik
Oct 26, 2017 02:23am
In the next 10 years when CPEC will be full operation Pakistan will bypass the Afghanistan to reach Central Asia due to the route from China I think mr Ghani and Mr Modi needs to have sensible strategists who can give the right advice
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Farhan
Oct 26, 2017 02:50am
@SHAHID SATTAR Loosing a big trade which is as good as monopoly in Afghanistan is no loss for us?
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Ali-Chauhan
Oct 26, 2017 02:52am
hahahahaha..... Where is ChahBahar port and Air root for trade????? you can't bypass Pakistan and time will show you, who was your friend and who was your hidden enemy.
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Ahsan Gul
Oct 26, 2017 02:56am
When Pakistani stooges will learn not to trust Ghani?
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Ahsan Gul
Oct 26, 2017 02:57am
@vikas_j - no it is the Afghani's character never to be faithful to any.
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Safdar
Oct 26, 2017 02:59am
@vikas_j right and failing economy!
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SANA
Oct 26, 2017 03:05am
@Arshad Mahmood Dont' get emotional Arshad. You think you keep these refugees for free? You get TONS in aid money and equipment and supplies Afghanis are not free guess dear
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M Wasim K
Oct 26, 2017 03:38am
@PrakashG Yoyr comments laughable.
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Qureshi (USA)
Oct 26, 2017 03:39am
I wish Pakistan should listen to it's neighbors, They may be right.
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M Wasim K
Oct 26, 2017 03:42am
@Anusri Tripathi Only India is shortsighted as well as having a destructive vision - probably in the teachings of Hinduism.
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DrKhan
Oct 26, 2017 03:45am
Central Asia is already connected to Pakistan through western China, Afghanistan is very unstable country and it’s unwise to practically transport anything through Afghanistan anyway.
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Khan
Oct 26, 2017 04:00am
@Bipul $19 billion in projects are already underway, but you still think CPEC is going nowhere?
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Riaz murtaza
Oct 26, 2017 04:09am
Our Muslim neighbor is another India on our west.
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guest
Oct 26, 2017 04:25am
CPEC will allow free flow of Chinese money from higher elevation of mountain passes to the lower elevation of Punjab.
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Common Sense
Oct 26, 2017 04:34am
Haha so much for Muslim brotherhood.
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Cali
Oct 26, 2017 04:44am
Ghanni, Do you need fries with this order?
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Rizwan
Oct 26, 2017 04:44am
Pakistan doesn't need Afghanistan to have access to Central Asia any more. We have access through China.
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PLANETTREKKER
Oct 26, 2017 04:44am
Breakfast in Delhi, lunch in Lahore and dinner in Kabul or vice-versa. Why not? Now for the fixed mindset spoilers (whether mullahs, military, militants or mindless politicians) on all sides to reform and become resolute men of vision. The region, blessed with resources and hard-working people, deserves better.
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Janoo
Oct 26, 2017 05:09am
@Sailesh Akkaraju Beautiful thought. Regional trade must happen. And this low self esteem is deep rooted in the whole region including these countries.
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Deepseeker
Oct 26, 2017 05:37am
@asif Brother throw and through are two very different words. BTW what happened to those famous theories of "strategic depth", "two nation" theories. Afghanistan is crucial for ultimate success of CPEC because if route to Central Asia is to be only through Kyrgistan and Tajikistan (open and look at the map first) then what is the relevance of Pakistani leg of CPEC ? This one way street of obsessive enmity with neighbours is just MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). Regards.
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AhmAd
Oct 26, 2017 05:49am
You want to have a cake and eat it too?
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Asad
Oct 26, 2017 05:51am
@Sane sid Key word "good intentions" which Ghani does not have!
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vp
Oct 26, 2017 05:51am
Being hated around the world is truly a Pakistani art.
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Embarrassed
Oct 26, 2017 05:56am
@Sailesh Akkaraju tell that to India and Afghanistan. They only want relations on their terms
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Asad
Oct 26, 2017 06:01am
@myview Sure sounds fair to a clouded mind!
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waqas
Oct 26, 2017 06:02am
congratulations india and afghanistan for your friendship i hope to see you become really good friends
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peace
Oct 26, 2017 06:02am
All this will not be an Issue if India stops trying to dictate and control PAKISTAN. Live and let live. mutual respect and peace is the key.
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Childish
Oct 26, 2017 06:14am
So childish statement from head of state, looks like he knows no matter what he says or does eventually Afghanistan will be loser.
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NasirAm
Oct 26, 2017 06:35am
@Sailesh Akkaraju Agree, but not on the autocratic terms.
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Mansur ul haque
Oct 26, 2017 06:39am
Time for India to take Afgan refugees also.
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faraz
Oct 26, 2017 06:43am
Both countries are not required. Ghani has been hired and speaking for his employer
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Chanakya
Oct 26, 2017 06:44am
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas India a problem in Asia!!! Brother, close your eyes and take a deep breath and pour some cold water on your head :) :) Only Pakistan thinks India is a problem and rest of the world considers Pakistan a problem.
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bd
Oct 26, 2017 06:49am
@Javed I couldn't agree more with your statement !! But is Pakistan doing that ? It is very very risky to put all your eggs in the same China basket which is what you are doing now. You do not have good relationship with your east and west neighbors. When and if the China basket is dropped (it can drop : remember you said each country should look for its own interest. China at some point looking at its own interest might find Pakistan not very favorable) you will only be left with the Arabian sea as your neighbor.
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Patel, LA. USA.
Oct 26, 2017 06:50am
@Arshad you people got the aid from UN and USA so keep them in Pakistan. AIDS don't come free.
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bd
Oct 26, 2017 06:50am
@Zak Did anyone listen ?
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ddr
Oct 26, 2017 06:55am
He is right, when when Pakistan refuses to allow it's roads by Afghanistan then Afghanistan has the right to refuse entry for Pakistan . This is the story allover the world. you can not have the cake and eat it too.
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Patel, LA. USA.
Oct 26, 2017 06:57am
@sid India don't need refugees . Keep them you will need them to work at your ports when CPEC comes
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wasif
Oct 26, 2017 07:05am
He proved what is said about afganis.
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Hazare
Oct 26, 2017 07:10am
Lage Raho Ghanibhai! Hindusthan tumhare saath saath hai! Such blunt addressed speech would make Chinese jittery & panic for their investments. China has also realized that India is slowly but determined way pushing for the global dominance as regional player who is acceptable & supported by most of the world. West, US, Africa, Gulf, ASEAN, Japan, Australia & many other high consuming states are now looking at India for their resources as well as supply chain. By 2030 India may overthrow China as largest economy of the world.
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:25am
@Arshad you get UN dole for the Afghan refugees. You need to help stabilize Afghanistan if you need the refugees to go back. By the way these Afghans believe they are in their Homeland.
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:26am
@asif but Durand line is not recognized international border.
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:27am
@A Fellow Pakistani please check geography. Similar to what your country tells India.
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:29am
@Salman please check geography because making stupid statements
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:30am
@Sohrab Qaiser see you show your religious hatred, why do you have to resort to name calling?
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Komal s
Oct 26, 2017 07:32am
@HK so if China has direct route to Central Asian, why then cpec? Just gwadar port?
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Yogesh
Oct 26, 2017 07:50am
@Salman Dream on! Try requesting access to some existing roads to say Japan for trade from your all weather friend and you will see the reality. Unfortunately Pakistan has no friends now in the world. It's just being used as a buffer land by powerful countries.. Wake up before its too late!
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Wally
Oct 26, 2017 08:06am
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas lol..whole world knows who are the pain points of asia
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usman
Oct 26, 2017 08:24am
Person who doesn't have full government even in Kabul, cannot dictate Pakistan what to do and what not to do.
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sajed syed
Oct 26, 2017 08:40am
@Arshad , they are our Muslim brothers. They have the right to stay in Pakistan. Pakistan was built for Muslims.
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zorro
Oct 26, 2017 08:46am
Ashraf Ghani is now "pimping" for India - Shameful!!
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Janoo
Oct 26, 2017 08:56am
@wasif No brother, he proves nothing. Whether it's about Afghanis or anybody else This generalization leads to nowhere. It's the same mentality that fuels hatred of a group ethnicity. Burma anyone?
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Janoo
Oct 26, 2017 09:04am
@Patel, LA. USA. Patel brother. There's no such thing as aide. Just business transactions. Of all people you should understand that. That's why India stayed out of it when they were in dire need. It was not good for business for India.
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Armaan
Oct 26, 2017 09:34am
LOL mr ghani ....how much area do you hold of afghanistan ??? :D
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Cricket-One
Oct 26, 2017 09:35am
On CPEC who asked YOU ??? And access to India via Wagah-Attari border ? Doesn't Chahbahar port mean anything to you ? Poor chaps are paying through their nose to make it a success, at least say a word to encourage them.
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Muhammad Ayub
Oct 26, 2017 09:40am
Do we need permission of Mr. Ghani to get access to central asia,, !
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tooba
Oct 26, 2017 09:56am
@Arshad yes lets send all the afgan refugees to India
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Dilli Dil Walo Ki
Oct 26, 2017 10:00am
Pakistan can still access Central Asia. But the route would be far longer and economically unviable. RIP CPEC.
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faseehullah irshad
Oct 26, 2017 10:01am
He is quite funny :P can start a comedy show named as " What do I want" :P
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ZULFIKAR MOMIN
Oct 26, 2017 10:12am
First of all Mr Gani is not representing True Afghan Govt & Secondly for CIS India is desperate to Access & Not Pakistan as Pakistan will be approaching towards sccussfully CPEC we will not need Afghan Route any more I think Pakistan Should not allow Afghan Transit from Pakistan Soil let them Route via India via Air Freight
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MD
Oct 26, 2017 10:13am
@vikas_j yes and he asked the afghan president (who nobody cares about) to speak on his behalf.. so power. much wow.
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abid
Oct 26, 2017 10:26am
@zorro : so now you have a competitor
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Mohd Azhar Ali
Oct 26, 2017 10:40am
Every Premier of a country keeps country's interest first however excluding our leaders where personal interest comes first before nation's interest.
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X
Oct 26, 2017 10:45am
@Muhammad a matured calculated wistfully strategic thinking
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gothroughmoderation
Oct 26, 2017 10:59am
Strong, clear and loud message by president ghani, above relegious similarities.
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Shah Nawaz
Oct 26, 2017 11:20am
Agreed with Arshad, have a kit kat and all refugees to India. before taking them keep they are muslims..how can you behave with them?
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Shah Nawaz
Oct 26, 2017 11:25am
@Vijay when you stop testing your doctors for new invention.
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kashif
Oct 26, 2017 11:39am
Mr. Ghani is the leader of a country whose 4 million people have been provided shelter by Pakistan, saved them from horrors of war and helped Afghanistan gain independence from invading forces of former USSR. A useless rhetoric to explain the Indian point of view. Afghanistan is a dangerous country as a neighbor, not only because of its porous border but because of its famed attitude of back stabbing.
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Masood
Oct 26, 2017 11:44am
Pakistan should simply stop the wheat smuggling to Afghanistan.
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Salman
Oct 26, 2017 12:07pm
what a joke. this man should realize his place on international platform
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Syed Shahzad Bukhari
Oct 26, 2017 12:39pm
Ghani also dare to take back your refugee and place them in India
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Gulshan
Oct 26, 2017 12:41pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas you have kept distance from India and you have prospered. 70 years of dismal performance.
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Gulshan
Oct 26, 2017 12:44pm
@Qasim , you can't evacuate them , Your friends Taliban shall get very angry and you know what happens then.
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Khan Wali
Oct 26, 2017 12:49pm
Who ask to join CPEC, Mr. Ashraf Ghani?
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Amad
Oct 26, 2017 12:59pm
Send all these afghans back to their redbud country. They are a burden on the world.
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AMerican
Oct 26, 2017 12:59pm
@ABE So if afghan support India then they are slaves but china pak are brothers wow what a logic????
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waqas
Oct 26, 2017 01:10pm
Pakistan has a better option to access central asia . That is througn xinkiang china . no need of afghanistan
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A Shah
Oct 26, 2017 01:50pm
@vikas_j Ha Ha Ha, Get Well Soon...
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skumar
Oct 26, 2017 02:11pm
@waqas - when you cant do easiest trade with immediate neighbourhood , forget distant lands.
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Mark M
Oct 26, 2017 02:19pm
@Syed Imtiaz Abbas so Afghanistan should enhance co-operation with Pakistan to become just like Pakistan in a couple of years.
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Well Meaning
Oct 26, 2017 06:33pm
@SK very brave thought
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Arshad, Canada
Oct 26, 2017 07:35pm
@vikas_j, Modi Ji speaks the USA Bhasha since he is so afraid of China and Pakistan. I am glad that you are proud to live in a country with less than 50% have indoor toilet, for the most part, you have 20 hours load shedding, Killing Kashmirees and other minorities and have a city called Rape Capital of the World, per capita has more debt than most countries, your country is more intolerant towards minorities. But you still want to be proud that it is your choice of very low standard. But CPEC is underway and I can easily say 35 % is completed and the rest is underway.
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SHAHID SATTAR
Oct 26, 2017 08:27pm
Carry on your wishful thinking for what it is worth.
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Asim Iqbal
Oct 26, 2017 09:25pm
@Bikram but useless
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STRAIGHTFORWARD
Oct 26, 2017 11:35pm
@Justice NARADA MUNI If India is not dying for CPEC, why then all these Indians are getting involved in this discussion.
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Nisar
Oct 27, 2017 01:39am
@Dr Biswas Amardeep Pakistan should stop India / Afghanistan trade through its territory and send All Afghan refugees back or send them to India which seems to have lot of sympathy with them . Pakistan should seal it border with Afghanistan and stop all Wheat and rice smuggling to Afghanistan. CPEC is a long term project which will be efit anyone Who joins it without trying to blackmail Pakistan and China .
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TrollMeNot
Oct 27, 2017 01:59am
@Syed Ahmed, Canada He is not Ghana President, he is Afghan president.
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EMAD
Oct 27, 2017 02:43am
CPEC fail or Pass is not the issue here, Its the Infra structure in fact that is being made by China that once when completed will open many new avenues for Pakistan internally and externally.
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EMAD
Oct 27, 2017 02:46am
One thing I fail to understand is why Indians are so worried about the failure of CPEC? they should be happy and let CPEC carry on.
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Farooq Khan
Oct 27, 2017 05:26am
Mr.Ghani Relax, You are not WANTED nor NEEDED in CPEC equation. Just watch the show
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ali
Oct 27, 2017 08:17am
My enemy's enemy is my friend. Modi will soon discover his landmines. Russia did, then America and now its Incredible INDIA's turn.
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Trumph
Oct 27, 2017 08:20am
This is termed as diplomacy by Indian PM. I can't see any such incident for Pakistan.
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jamshed
Oct 27, 2017 09:22am
@Bipul For you Indians Ghani's word is gospel word so it was Karzai but things have not changed an iota since Kazai left. It is "same old same old" Tailban are suicide- bombing the hell out of Afghanistan control every thing outside Kabul and US secretary of State meeting Ghani in the middle of darkness with military base lights out in a room with no windows just it has been for years. Does it refreshes your memory? But irrespective of what you people say the ground reality for Ghani, India and US has not changed. The trade, its benefits to Pakistan is baloney. India should do what is doing by opening Charbahar and airlifting "precious" Afghan high value products if we care.BTW there is not a single thing that Afghnistan produces we don't produce only better and more... as far as trade with India it is to India's benefits and under such hostile and belligerent environment created by you both things are not going to change.
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Nusrat
Oct 27, 2017 10:43am
spoon cluttering
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Chairman
Oct 27, 2017 10:54am
Somebody must brief him as to what will happen if Pakistan chokes Afghan transit trade from Karachi port to Afghanistan in addition to the everyday fuel and food supplies.
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Anniyah
Oct 27, 2017 11:47am
Pakistan does not need your consent on this matter Mr Ghani so who asked you?
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secular
Oct 27, 2017 02:36pm
@Arshad Please give back KP to Afghanistan first.
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Arshad Javed Sandal
Oct 27, 2017 03:02pm
No access to Indian Trade via Pakistan, unless occupied Kashmir is not soluted. Sorry no sympathy for Afghan President on CPEC issue.
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Raja
Oct 27, 2017 03:33pm
It's impossible to revive the money invested in CPEC without involving India.
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Waqar Ali Khan
Oct 27, 2017 03:53pm
@Anniyah Well said
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Muhammad
Oct 27, 2017 04:42pm
@Clarification china needs Pakistan to trade with Middle East and Europe and Africa. Right now ships have to cross thousands of miles to reach Chinese ports. By using gwadar they can get trade stuff in less then 1/3 of the original time esp into their land locked western regions. It's simple geography
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Prashant Kumar
Oct 27, 2017 07:07pm
@Arshad Yes, we welcome them..
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Moin Ahmad
Oct 28, 2017 11:03am
Not friends or brothers Pakistan. We don't need them.
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Raptor
Oct 28, 2017 11:15am
Pakistan should not rely on Afghanistan for trade access even if they want us to. We will always be held hostage whenever tensions rise on the other border. Instead, Pakistan should depend on more dependent and already established land routes through China for trade with Cebtral Asian countries.
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RAVEENDRA NATH
Oct 28, 2017 01:35pm
@Zak Hope, one day Pakistani leaders will accept your suggestions and obey your orders, and would not be able to get out of the deep it. This would be good for peace in the region. Please continue to give such much valuable suggestions and advices.
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