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UN resolutions term Kashmir 'disputed': Pakistan tells India
UNITED NATIONS: Pakistan on Tuesday firmly rejected an Indian claim to Kashmir as an “integral part” of India, saying it was an internationally-recognised disputed territory.
Diyar Khan, a minister at the Pakistan Mission to the United Nations, told the UN General Assembly's Third Committee meeting that legal and factual background of Jammu & Kashmir dispute is quite clear and Indian efforts to mislead or confuse the international community would not succeed.
As representatives of the two countries sparred over the decades-old issue at the United Nations in the committee meeting dealing with social, humanitarian and cultural questions, Khan maintained that the disputed nature of state was well established by several UN Security Council resolutions that call for a settlement of this problem through a free and impartial plebiscite under the auspices of the United Nations.
Diyar Khan was reacting to a statement by Indian delegate Rattan Lal Kataria, who in his speech maintained that Kashmir was its “integral part” and that Pakistan was in illegal occupation of a part of that “Indian state”.
He also claimed that people in India-held Kashmir had regularly participated in “free, fair and open elections.” Kataria, a member of Indian parliament.
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Diyar Khan, who was speaking in right of reply to the Indian delegates assertions, referred to the argument that Kashmiris had already exercised their right to self-determination through elections, and said it was a fact known to all that elections in India-held Kashmir were only not recognised by the UN Security Council but also rejected by the people of Kashmir and their representative political leadership.
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"The Security Council resolutions had also clarified that no electoral exercise conducted by Indian authorities in Jammu and Kashmir could be accepted as substitute to a free and impartial plebiscite under the UN auspices," said Khan.
About the Indian allegations of terrorism, he called it a false campaign to divert attention from the real issue, saying such tactics would not set aside the Kashmiri people's inalienable right to self-determination.
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The purpose of Indian allegations, he said, was to force Pakistan to stop raising the issue of Kashmir at the UN.
Referring to the Indian charge that Pakistan was occupying a part of 'Indian' Kashmir, Diyar Khan asked India to leave this question to the people of Kashmir. “If only India would agree to the UN plebiscite, as we do, the exercise of this free choice by the people of Jammu and Kashmir would clarify, once and for all, as to who is the real occupying force in Kashmir.'
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Again taking the floor, Pakistani diplomat Diyar Khan said his country was not interfering in the internal affairs of India by raising the Kashmir issue at the United Nations. “May I also remind the Indian delegate that India itself brought this dispute before the United Nations,” he said.
“India is a large country and we respect its territorial integrity when it comes to its integral parts, but Kashmir is not the integral part. “
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So what, disputes are present in every nook and corner of the earth, that does not mean we loose focus on other issues.
Well articulated answer by Diyar Khan:
Well said, Diyar Khan. Raise the Kashmir issue wherever and whenever it is possible to do so.
Please raise this issue in every International forum.
How come Indians come out in bulk everytime Kashmir is mentioned? Don't worry it is an Integral Part of Pakistan. We will get it back and have our freedom.
It is clear as day light that the legal and factual background of Jammu & Kashmir is disputed. No point denying the fact.
I am glad that the Pakistan has raised the issue of Kashmir at the UN. From now on Pakistan should vigorously keep on working on the illegal occupation of Kashmir. The next step should to declare India as a extremist nation for there violation of the rights of Citizen of Kashmir who are subjected to worst kind of occupation and the killing of thousand of Kashmiri be declared as GENOCIDE.
in 2010 Jammu and Kashmir is out of UN disputed territories list .
In Nov 2010 the United Nations has removed Jammu and Kashmir from its list of disputed territories. the United Nations has excluded Jammu & Kashmir (J&K) from its list of unresolved international disputes under the observation of the UN Security Council (UNSC)
We Kashmiries are Thankful. Thankyou Pakistan. Good Work FO! 'Kashmir Bany Ga Pakistan'.
India should allow Kashmiries to decide their future. Thats the only peaceful Solution and good omen for SAARC.
If S.Asia have to prosper, member countries should convince India to allow Kashmiris choose their future willfully.
When the occupied land would be freed from the subjugation of India?How long the freedom loving souls of the world can wait?
Well done Mr. Diyar Khan. Pakistan cannot back down from its position that Kashmir is a disputed and unfinished agenda between India and Pakistan, and as per the UN Security Council Resolution, the people Kashmir are to be given a chance through a free and impartial plebiscite, to be conducted under the UN auspices and monitored by international observers, to decide about their future. Pakistan shall continue to support Kashmiri people in their just struggle for emancipation from India, and sooner or later, Kashmiris will get their undeniable right of self-determination. Long live Pakistan, long live Kashmir.
An Independent Kashmir is a reality India has to accept sooner or later. India cannot suppress the masses forever.
Pakistan will not let Kashmir with India. India will not give an inch of Kashmir Wars have been fought with no result. Future war is not an option. So where do we go from here ? Only answer seems to be....leave it like that and be happy.
Pakistan and India do not deserve Kashmir. Both Kashmir's should become a seperate country end of.
Got bored...
Kashmir is our.No India No Pakistan
“May I also remind the Indian delegate that India itself brought this dispute before the United Nations,”
The above quoted line says it all. Now civilized and educated Indians must understand, Kashmir is a disputed region, not an integral part of India.
Lets see who gets Kashmir, enough talk
That is the way Pakistan should talk with India. Hard hitting, precise and to the point, so there is no hiding place for India.
The issue of the future of the Jammu and Kashmir is very much on the agenda of the UN and there are UN resolutions that the future of Kashmir should be decided by a plebiscite. India who took the Kashmir case to the UN in 1947 now is standing in the way of the UN resolutions,Historically days are marked when something significant happens in the life of the people or nations, but unfortunately it is not the case with the people of former state of Jammu and Kashmir.
Is India deaf? As Bill Clinton would say its occupation stupid. Indians can turn blue but there is no two ways of saying what is occupation of Kashmir by India.
If India calls Kashmir an integral Part of India than that means its happy with only the 60% of Kashmir that it has and unconcerned about the rest 40% showing their lack of Love for the Kashmiri Land
indeed indian occupied Kashmir is no way a part of india.
As per UN Resolutions it is a "Internationally Recognized Disputed land" where only way forward is a neutral referendum which is impossible with 50million indian forces patroling every street
Kashmir belongs to Kashmiris... thanks pakistan for bringing kashmir issue in international limelight
Why beating the dead horse to rise and run? We must change our strategy and fight on a field that we know is our definite win. Bring our Think-tank Brigade to find the and employ the strategy.
Excellent response. That's the way we should deal with india.
Indians should remember what they did in case of Junagadh State...... the same should be done for Kashmir as well .....
@shitish New Delhi closed down the UNMOGIP office as it became irrelevant, the purpose of this group since 1948 is to monitor the Kashmir border. UN did not objected the closure.
Game is on , I don't think current generation will see the result .
This is just "war of words". No good will come out of it. India will keep saying Whole Kashmir is integral part of India, while Pakistan will keep saying its disputed per UN resolution which is outdated and replaced by Shimla agreement on 1972 (according to India) To me, this is a stalemate, and need new blood (maybe new generation) of leaders to sit down and discuss it, otherwise we will keep saying the same thing over and over again.
@shitish UN did removed Kashmir from its list of disputed territory, but calling it a disputed territory between Pakistan and India; which must be solved bilaterally, UN has nothing got to do with bilateral dispute.
Having said that, Kashmir is neither integral part of India nor Pakistan. That is in the light of UN
@KASHMIRI very true, what india and Pakistan have done to develop their side of kashmir. People want development and job, please compete in developing kashmir and let people decide
Wasn't this dispute dropped in 2010 by UN
When two parties disagree on something that thing becomes disputed.What is the problem with that?
@shitish again fed misinformation by your media. Lies do not make reality. The resolution stands and awaits implementation of plebiscite. Kashmir will never go away for india, until kashmiris vote to join pakistan in entirety.
great job Mr.Diyar khan.salute to you sir
@fida A nation cann't be termed as extremist but the governments.How do you evaluate the great Arunduhuti Roy.Do you know that few years back Kabitapatra (Poetry Leaf)a regular poetry magazine of poet- members and journalists of National Press Club Dhaka published a poem on Occupied Kashmir under the name I want to touch you Arunduhuti on commemoration of World Poetry day. There were at least three poems referring Kashmir. Not only this Bangladeshi poets through their pen depict the blood and trauma of occupied Kashmir i.
There should be no doubt to any unbiased, reasonable mind that inclusion of Kashmir in India in 1947/48 was grossly unethical. The right of one person (the Maharaja) to decide the fate of an entire people, a decision that was not acceptable to a majority of that people, is simply unjust and inhumane.
India's position on Kashmir is fundamentally WRONG.
Indians are so foolish now that they think they can convince the world that it is day when it is actually night. Manipulating documented history (inc UN resolutions), really?
Mr Kataria If people regularly participated in “free, fair and open elections.” then there should not be a problem for UN referendum !
Occupation of Kashmir by India is exactly the same as the occupation of Palestine by Israel.India should respect UN resolution.
Pakistan had been holding an olive branch to India for many years by not actively raising this issue internationally in the hope that better sense would prevail. In the absence of a positive response Pakistan is now simply re-exerting pressure on India by bringing Kashmir back on the UN and international agenda. People have the right to express their right for freedom and self determination regardless of whether it is on the UN agenda or not.
Also IOK is not a bed of roses for Kashmiri's. 100,000 people killed, countless rapes and human right violations. With India now facing the same turmoil, i.e. extremism, intolerance, violence, terrorism and hatred along sectarian divide, it seems to be entering a dangerous phase. It is descending in the abyss that Pakistan has made great strides to recover from after much hardship and sacrifice.
We want a free and fair election in Kashmir, but India is refusing as they know that no one will support India in Kashmir.
Kashmir and muslim majority is a part of Pakistan.
@what is in a name "So what, disputes are present in every nook and corner of the earth, that does not mean we loose focus on other issues."
This may be true for border disputes but this issue involves millions of humans who are being subjected to crimes against humanity by Indian forces and their supporters. Kashmir therefore cannot be thrown in cold storage.
Those asking for a plebiscite should ask what would you do with all the extra people who have low productivity and work ethic. We Pakistanis are impoverished as it is, lacking in heath care, education, economic well being, infrastructure, etc. Adding more people of similar sort with little ability and talent will only impoverish us more and cause large scale discontent. Let Kashmir & Kashmiris be. Don't get carried away by a 1948 resolution that is irrelevant today.We have enough problems of our own to solve. Be practical and let things be the way they are, and focus on our growth.
@shitish I think you have more information and knowledge than your INDIAN delegate to the UN as they did not mention this in their reply
Very nicely done by the NS govt.
India keeps killing innocent Kashmiris and then claim their territory to be a part of india. Shameless, simply shameless.
@Simba "Those asking for a plebiscite should ask what would you do with all the extra people who have low productivity and work ethic. "
While the low productivity and work ethic comment may hold true for Pakistanis and Indians, it is not for the Kashmiris. Kashmir is among the high literacy regions of the subcontinent. The handicraft skills of Kashmiris is second to none. Please get educated on the region before commenting.
@shitish Are you dreaming. What UN observes are doing in Kashmir and Ban ki moon recent statement for resolution of Kashmir ???. Can anybody in UN has authority to nullify UNSCs half dozen resolution without its approval / acceptance.
Kashmir is no issue between India & Pakistan.Political parties of bithsides are aware of it.People who are landless both sides are getting emotional about the issue whose mention is merely a gimmick.UN is like grandfather where kids take their problems and then don't bother to listen.UN is irrelevant.India wouldn't and can not hold plebiscite after huge demographic change.Moreover after the rise of fundamental Islam and fall of twin towers NATO & Russia both have reasons to crush any such separation in any part of world which can come and haunt them.
India and Pakistan should do world and people of "India and Pakistan" a favor by allowing people of Kashmir choose their futures. This Kashmir issue is holding good relation hostage for people of Pakistan and India.
@Aurangzeb Well people regulary participated in elelction under birtish rule so why Pak and Indian were librated from UK if election is sign of agreement to be part of some regim.
An excellent statement.
Very nice; no mincing of words, laying out facts, plain and simple. It is high time India recognized that they can't just muddle their way through this. Kashmir is a disputed region, and there are mechanism in place to help solve it. Now if they don't want to do that that is another thing but no more it is going to be portrayed as anything else.
we will not rest till we achieve freedom,which is our birth right....india cannot stop us with bullets...
Right on Money!!!
well done...indian cowardice on display. big country, small heart.
india should stop lying in the face of international community by saying that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of india. Let the people of Jammu and Kashmir decide its fate in a free and fair plebiscite conducted by UN. Otherwise stop dreaming of having trade with Afghanistan and central Asia as Pakistan will keep its knee on your throat.
Just the simple on-ground fact that a part of Kashmir is with Pakistan and a part with India is enough of a testimony to Kashmir being a disputed territory.
@shitish
You Indians keep mentioning this 2010 UN list as though its proof that the UN has obeyed Indian commands to step-out of the Kashmir dispute. This is not the truth. In fact, show me this list, because I cannot find it. All I can find is Indian new sites stating that the UN removed Kashmir from some list, but no one can seem to ever provide the list itself.
Indians are two faced. They took Junagarh and Hayderabad despite their Muslim rulers signed instrument of accession to Pakistan or independence because there states had Hindu majorities while occupying Muslim Kashmir whose population want to join their mother country Pakistan and muslim sister states of Sindh, Punjab, KPK, Balochistan, Azad Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan.
U.N. will never resolve Kashmir conflict as a resolve Kashmir means a resolve in Palestinian-Israel conflict too.
Who in the world really want that ?????
There was a time when every kingdom was fighting each other for some piece of land and thereby giving up everything they have, including peace. A nation created in the name of Islam, which itself means peace, is more interested in a piece of land than peace. What an irony?
@shitish R u day dreaming...This is the flash point for world security.
@hqyq Not true, Kashmiries do not want to be under Indian occupation. They do not want restrictions on their day to day rituals.
@Simba well said.
Kashmir should be left as it is now and there should be free flow of people and trade between India and pakistan through the borders of J&K.People of the state will see for themselves the pace of progress in both parts of the state for them and finally decide which one is better and where they want to live for the rest of their lives.In that way each country will still stick to its portion of Kashmir.
@A Proud Pakistani (Kashmiri) Inshallah brother in our lifetime. Pakistan/Kashmir Zindabad
KASHMIR issues between two countries like talking to the wall. I may not see any solution in my life time.
@Jatt YES they will all prefer to go with Pakistan as its better country!!!!!!!!! Better education, hospitals, infrastructure, economy, better safety , etc etc- People of Kashmir are NO fools! They WILL pick Pakistan!
@Sheikh Reyaz - how many would actually take that into consideration? Its like blazing before the deaf ears !!
@hqyq Pakistan is not demanding J&K to be part of Pak, instead we're asking for Kashmiri's right to determine themselves and that includes the Azad Kashmir. We know Kashmiri's will have a no/open border policy with Pakistan and a closed border with India if they choose to be independent instead.
Before commenting, we all should ourself read the UN Resolution on J&K. Please Search the Internet for "UNSC Resolution 47 (1948)".
@fida - Good Joke, keep trying !!
any one listening? We need build the credibility first.
@Huzaifa Akhtar do who stoped
The UN resolutions require Pakistan to vacate from AJK first. Is Pakistan willing to give this up?
@Lockhorn No it does not. You wish you had that added to the agreement; hindsight is definitely 20/20.
@shitish There is a UN organisation by the name of UNMOGIP , united nation military observer group for India and Pakistan, with its offices in Islamabad and Dehli, the sole purpose of this organisation is to monitor Kashmir situation, STOP Baseless propaganda and do not mislead the people. Truth prevails
@fida This is what the reality is and Pakistan should waist no more time to do it without accepting any kind of pressure from anywhere.
@Lockhorn UN resolutions are about independent plebiscite not under India's control, don't try to mislead the people by trying to distort the facts.
@Jameel wani Well said brave Kashmiri.
kashmir will be free soon.. Pakistan Zindabad
@KASHMIRI I would respect that as a Pakistan Brother if this is the choice majority wants to take..but certainly occupation is not Acceptable!!! and we are there for you our brothers..
@Imran from Chicago It is in the UN resolutions. That is the pre-condition to the plebiscite. In any case, nothing is likely to happen without trust being built amongst all parties first.
@A Proud Pakistani (Kashmiri) they come out in bulk because they know they are illegal occupying it and they are in the wrong. It's like a criminal who takes pains to explain he did not do it and that he is innocent. While those who are in the right, state the facts and sit back to see justice done.
@Lockhorn stop trying to get pedantic, lives of kashmiris and the destiny of their nation , does not hinge on one party or the other vacating or not. India needs to face reality and that is India is not wanted in kashmir, to save face it must allow UN plebiscite and let kashmiris decide which country they will join in its entirety. UN will ensure a fair and transparent plebiscite under UNMOGIP protection. Indian and pakistani troops will withdraw togather. Learn to Be sincere to yourself, to kashmiris , to pakistan and to the UN( who represent the world community).