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A 50-year-old man was beaten to death, while his 22-year-old son was severely injured in Uttar Pradesh's Dadri after it was rumoured that the family had been storing and consuming beef, police said.

Muhammad Akhlaq and his son were beaten allegedly by residents of Bisara village, Indian Express reported.

The attack on Akhlaq and his family occurred around 10pm on Monday night, after a local temple allegedly announced the family had been consuming beef.

Farm worker Akhlaq succumed to his injuries, while his son Danish was admitted to a government hospital in what doctors called "critical" condition.

Violent protests erupted after six people suspected of involvement in the incident were arrested near Delhi.

Bisara village sarpanch Sanjeev Kumar Rana ─ who also runs a shop near the temple ─ claimed the temple priest and an aide were among those arrested.

Police said the priest was released after questioning.

Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) Gautam Buddh Nagar Kiran S said that preliminary investigations revealed an announcement had been made from the temple about the family consuming beef.

"The priest was picked up for questioning as we need to investigate the involvement of others in the case," he said.

He said that a case of rioting and murder had been registered against 10 people, of which six had already been arrested. Rupendra, vivek, Sri Om, Sandeep, Saurav and Gaurav, who are all residents of Bisara village.

The SSP said police had been told of a group of people entering the temple and using a microphone to make the announcement. "However, investigations are still underway. We do not know if any of the accused are associated with the temple."

Akhlaq's 18-year-old daughter Sajida said the family kept "mutton in the fridge", not beef.

She said a group of over 100 villagers arrived at the family's home. "They accused us of keeping cow meat, broke down our doors and started beating my father and brother."

"My father was dragged outside the house and beaten with bricks. We came to know later that an announcement had been made from the temple about us eating beef,” she said.

Samples of the meat were sent "to the forensics department for examination", police said .

Also read: India’s diehard Hindus push to ban beef in blow to poor

Gautam Budh Nagar District Magistrate N P Singh said police had been deployed in the area and the situation was under control.

"Some locals spread rumours that Akhlaq had cow meat at his home and engaged in cow-slaughtering," he said, adding "Following the rumours, tension ignited and some locals attacked his home in Bisara village."

Residents of Bisara and nearby villages clashed with police following news of the arrests. Protesters damaged vehicles, including a police van and a motorocycle.

One man, Rahul, was injured as police resorted to firing.

His brother, Narendra, said, “Around 500 protesters from nearby villages had assembled there. A policeman fired a shot in the air but it hit Rahul on the side of his abdomen."

Senior police officials contested Narendra's version. SSP Kiran said "We are yet to ascertain the type of bullet and the weapon from which it was fired."

Many Hindus regard the cow as the living symbol of their religion. Hindu welfare organisations run gaushalas, or cow shelters, in many cities where abandoned cows found wandering the streets are given food and shelter. Feeding a cow is seen by many Hindus as a way to appease the gods and get one’s wishes fulfilled.

Not all BJP-led states are pushing for tighter restrictions on beef. The chief minister of Goa, another BJP-led state, has refused to back the ban, saying that two-fifths of people there eat beef and he respected the rights of minorities.

Meanwhile, Hindu nationalist groups affiliated to Modi's BJP want to set up more cattle camps and cow shelters to house animals no longer wanted by farmers. India has some 300 million cattle, and animals foraging for food are a familiar sight on the rubbish-strewn streets of towns and villages.

Also read: Violent protests in Indian-held Kashmir after rising tension over beef ban


Comments (347) Closed



fowms Sep 30, 2015 12:07pm

sample of meet were sent to lab. Wow

Indian Sep 30, 2015 12:10pm

What a shame being an Indian today. I am human first n Hindu later that's my personal belief. I appeal to Government of India that all these culprit including temple priest must be hange as soon as possible. Shame Shame on our police n government. Sorry to all my Muslim brothers.

Assad Sep 30, 2015 12:12pm

"Samples of the meat were sent to a lab" uhm..... Why? It doesn't matter what type of meat it was, no one had a right to kill that man, husband, and father over it...

hassan Sep 30, 2015 12:13pm

on one side india has reached mars , on the other hand ...! WoW !

DesiGal Sep 30, 2015 12:14pm

As an Indian and Hindu, I totally condemn this act and am really sad to see where the country is heading to. This new found fanaticism is attacking the very ethos of inclusiveness of the Indian civilization. Hope sanity prevails in days to come.

India Sep 30, 2015 12:15pm

If it's true, then I'm ashamed of myself as as Indian and a Hindu. This is inhuman and I wish the culprits get punished for their actions. This country runs on the rule of law not religious preference

Sri Sep 30, 2015 12:16pm

It's very sad that such events still occur. Extremism in all forms by anyone should be condemned irrespective of his or her faith.These are the times when we should stop pointing fingers at each other and instead work as one against these ignorant minds .Its not a war between religions but one between intolerance and tolerance.

fowms Sep 30, 2015 12:16pm

Samples of the meat were sent "to the forensics department for examination", police said . so if it is found to be beef, murderers will be vindicated. Great.

dwarakanath Sep 30, 2015 12:16pm

There is no difference between the beasts and these type of cruel mentality people

kamran Sep 30, 2015 12:17pm

illitrate hindus muslims have harmed this region more thn anything. education is a key to light.

m being honest here

Maverik Sep 30, 2015 12:19pm

Bright, shining, tolerant India.

Roy Sep 30, 2015 12:21pm

Uttar Pradesh is the state where the government claims to be secular. It is a shameful incident . No one has the right to hurt or kill a fellow human for the choice of food they make. Humanity is in danger with all the hatred for each other based on religion, color, creed etc

xoro Sep 30, 2015 12:23pm

UP is being governed by Samajwadi Party.... Most favoured party among Muslim community...Mulayam Yadav, Akhilesh Azam Khan are ikon in Muslims in UP.. And see the financial and social condition of Muslims in UP, worst state in India for Muslims despite maximum numbers of Muslim reside in UP than any other state in India... Now don't blame MODI for this as it didnot happend in BJP rulling state. India has federal government system., each state acts like independent nation

Indian Sep 30, 2015 12:24pm

Sick but not surprising if it's in UP, Bihar.

samsonite Sep 30, 2015 12:25pm

Beef eating is illegal in some states of India during festival times. It is also a sensitive subject. But killing someone for what he has eaten is savagery at its worst. As a staunch and proud Hindu I feel ashamed this has happened in India in the name of my religion. Tolerance and multiculturalism define Hinduism. When civil wars in the name of religion is the norm, 33 million Gods of Hinduism are coexisting in peace. This killing is unacceptable.

And the curious part is that such riots have taken place in recent times only in UP and Bihar, the states which are supposedly ruled by so called secular parties that depend on the muslim votebank.

Particularly in UP where the CM Akhilesh Yadav is struggling to maintain Law &Order, these happen just before elections where Muslims are the primary victims. Even Muzaffarnagar riots , again in UP, had the same timing. It should be noted that Bihar is facing elections this month where Akhlesh Yadav's party is facing a tough fight against BJP.

sab Sep 30, 2015 12:25pm

Brutality in the name of religion so common in Pakistan and India

south indian hindu Sep 30, 2015 12:26pm

it is shameful and dastardly act.Most of the indians dont want choice of food to be controlled.People have voted for development ,but not for food restrictions.

Indianvoice Sep 30, 2015 12:32pm

Imposing ones religious beliefs on others is not right. People must be able to eat and practice what they choose. Highly condemnable and outrageous incident.

franklyspeaking Sep 30, 2015 12:33pm

As an Indian, hang my head in shame....

gaurav Sep 30, 2015 12:36pm

nobody wants any human to be killed. I am strictly against killing weather he is hindu or muslim. people involved in killing must be booked under law. one more thing I would like to say, if beef is ban and against hindu philosophy why not do a little sacrifice which is the main reason for clashes?? hindus also support in their cases. we have given them extra provisions in constitution which provides them many rights which hindus also don't have. its not like if you don't eat beef , you are gonna die.

VOICE OF SANITY Sep 30, 2015 12:46pm

Inna lilahe wa inna illahe rajeun..so sad

Indian -I Sep 30, 2015 12:47pm

Unfortunate incident .. justice must be given the family of victims.

Pakistani Sep 30, 2015 12:47pm

@fowms Might is right dear, they can change forensic results.

raja hindustani Sep 30, 2015 12:51pm

Really Shameful. Law & Order is worst in UP.

Maxx Sep 30, 2015 12:56pm

Slaughter of cows are banned...slaughter of humans are fine. What kind of ideologue is this, despicable and bigoted.

Abhishek Sep 30, 2015 12:56pm

Gaurav.... It's all about choices and each individual is free to exercise their choice. We might have disagreements but we were never like this and I believe mine is the most liberal religion in the worldworld where we believe karma. This is pathetic. And I sincerely believe that if we continue this way we will end up the same as a our neighbour. I am an Indian first and a Hindu later. We are a tolerant society. It's this very country that gives me a freedom to go to a mosque offer namaz and come back to still be the greatest believer of Lord Krishna. We got to mend things up.

Indobro Sep 30, 2015 01:07pm

Once again I reiterate, no one has right kill another, specially in the name of religion. I condemn in strongest word for such a brutal act. I do not know whether the victim was actually eating beef or there was some other motive behind this killing. Even if he was eating beef (but eating beef was not banned in UP) and even if he was supposedly hurting religious sentiment of the majority, the aggrieved people should have followed the rule of law instead of taking the on their own hand. I am sure there is some other motive behind this killing and the accused are taking shelter of religion to gain sympathy of masses and create pressure. The administration has acted on it. The culprits will be punished and truth will prevail.

on looker Sep 30, 2015 01:08pm

India can do better - after affects of BJP led govt will be felt for decades on both fronts: economy and communal relationship - later being a potential fault line which can reverse the former if not led by secular leadership.

Adil Sep 30, 2015 01:11pm

Wow!!!! All that over eating beef.

Zakir Sep 30, 2015 01:11pm

@kamran You are wrong. It is not the fault of illiterate Hindus and Muslims but those who politicians who keep them illiterate for their own vested interests.

manoj Sep 30, 2015 01:13pm

this is pakka political ...i am sure some party involved in this to defame this 10 days beef ban...Indian are so tolerant people that's why Muslim population increase from 6 % during Independence to 13 % now ...Political class making problem between people

Random Indian Sep 30, 2015 01:15pm

Barbaric. One needs to fully examine what was going on - it's probably a land grab, or daughter grab, or political stunt aimed at triggering votes/riots, something bigger. And culprits should absolutely be declared terrorists and hanged.

Human life is sacred, regardless of whether they were consuming beef or not. "sending samples to the lab" is an affront to those killed - if by some freak chance they find the samples to be beef, will it justify the killing, or will the killed be tried in court?

DV Sep 30, 2015 01:17pm

Anything can happen in UP and Bihar...

Sheeda Sep 30, 2015 01:17pm

The punch line is........... Samples of the meat were sent "to the forensics department for examination", police said .

saleem Sep 30, 2015 01:18pm

are we living in secular & democratic society ????? It will take us ages to become a secular ,liberal & tolerant nation. If communal & sectarian mentality besieges our mind,then we should forget about progress & prosperity the nation.In a multicultural country this discord is bound to ruin the nation. remember unity means prosperity & discord means destruction.what should we choose ?

Rani Sep 30, 2015 01:18pm

At such occassion. Media should play a responsible role and educate people that what one eats is not a reason to kill them. Education and open mind/acceptance is what this world needs otherwise human race will not survive

mrb Sep 30, 2015 01:20pm

We are proud HINDUS. No need to emulate them in any manner. Condemn this dasterdly act.

DV Sep 30, 2015 01:21pm

Sorry for dead man but, It might be half truth. I read this news in India media and sure they didn't brought full info, Indian Media generally try to create sensation and sell news.

Rahul Sep 30, 2015 01:22pm

People from UP and Bihar are the most corrupt and most uneducated lot in the country. Religion is a personal choice. What a person eats is a personal choice. This is a shameful act. I hope everyone involved in this dastardly act is punished.

Tariq Amir Sep 30, 2015 01:24pm

It was a very sad news. But the silver lining is that in nearly all comments on this page by Indians , they have condemned this incident. That shows that most of the people on both sides have not lost their humanity.

manal Sep 30, 2015 01:25pm

incredible india right? truly progressive nation where you can get killed for eating beef...

Rajeev Velagapudi Sep 30, 2015 01:29pm

Shameful.

While Modi is making a Global pitch for us to attract investments and improve the economic conditions, These kind of incidents will put entire Nation to embarrassment.

Not forgivable. UP government should severely punish the culprits

Rajan Talwar Sep 30, 2015 01:29pm

@raja hindustani - Politians are delibrately destroying communal harmony in U.P. This benefit religion based parties of both the major communities.

saleem Sep 30, 2015 01:30pm

@Gourav shun this "they & we "mentality ,it is rabid .look through prism of humanty.only then this world in general & this country in particular could become a peaceful place to live in.Peace & unity is necessary & sufficient conditions for social,economic & moral developement of any country.

Rome cruser Sep 30, 2015 01:40pm

Disgraceful!! The temple priest should be punished to the max.

Harmony-1 Sep 30, 2015 01:40pm

Banning beef was a bad idea to begin with. This government may be doing well on economic yardstick but at the same time doing well on fanning further religious divides as well.

Global indian Sep 30, 2015 01:46pm

This is very distressing. Very ashamed that this happened. Hope ALL the culprits are arrested immediately and given exemplary punishment. No excuses for this..none what soever.

Padmakar Sep 30, 2015 01:48pm

As an Indian I am ashamed by the acts of these people. Those who commits the violence and killing under the name of religion are the real enemies of religion itself.

Sierrabrave Sep 30, 2015 01:55pm

This is a shame! We pledge to force the police to ensure justice...

Gulzar Sep 30, 2015 01:56pm

Digital India! Why not first make it human India.

And Indian Sep 30, 2015 02:00pm

I am ashamed and strongly condemn this hooligan act.

Hameed Khan Sep 30, 2015 02:00pm

Where are the SO CALLED human rights organizations ? NGOs...? UN....? Why no leader of the world talks about this in the UN general assembly and UN SC....? Shame on all.

Raza Khan Sep 30, 2015 02:06pm

I love you all the educated Hindus my brothers by condemning this act of hate against a poor Muslim and a human being. You have proven that only small number of Hindus are fanatics. I have studied Hinduism and it forbids to take a innocent person's life, because Lord Shiva is considered to be a Lord of all the human beings. So again, I'm so proud of Hindus and Indians for standing up for this hateful act against a human being Mashallah! We all have these crazy fanatics Muslim, Christian, Hindu whatever Humanity first!

Rohit Sharma Sep 30, 2015 02:11pm

Eating and selling beef is prohibited in many states of India including the state of UP. Muslims or any other people should not kill cows and sell meet. Otherwise, they should be punished by court. People are taking law in their hand in the absence of police not performing their duty.

sunil Sep 30, 2015 02:16pm

it is shameful and should be condemned... guily be punished ... law will punish the culprits

vic Sep 30, 2015 02:18pm

it`s very unfortunate to see people killing humans to save animals. live and let others live. lets keep our religious views only to boundaries of our homes. people trying to please their master by killing his creature. how does it even make sense? Educate your self first to be able to learn religion. prayers for departed soul and family left in grief.

SDA Sep 30, 2015 02:22pm

@India About time.

atul gupta Sep 30, 2015 02:23pm

Shameful, deplorable incident. Where is the humanity? My heart goes out for the family. The culprits should get an exemplery punishment.

Manish Sep 30, 2015 02:23pm

Criminal and Shameful Act. All the Criminals must brought to justice .

Uniform Civil Code Sep 30, 2015 02:27pm

I feel local politics and politicians are involved in the incident, no one should take law into their hands. In India there are different laws in different sates there isn't any uniform civil code, in some states u are allowed to eat(Goa, Kerala. West Bengal and North Eastern states) beef and in some u aren't allowed to eat(Maharashtra, Gujrat,Kashmir etc.) and in some officially its banned but unofficially its allowed example is the states of Uttar Pradesh. People of India in general are confused.

Its better to prevent such incidents but in India only after the incident occurs the government gets active. In India such crimes happen and it turns into riots and India doesn't learn from its mistakes. May god give the family peace , government should give hefty compensation to the family of the diseased and let the culprits be brought to justice, which I feel is bit difficult. I am against beef eating as a Hindu but taking law into your own hands isn't right.

I feel ashamed as Hindu.

Politics Sep 30, 2015 02:32pm

There is politics involved in in it, these politicians are taking shelter of religion. I am 100% sure that politicians and their goondas are involved in the incident.

king Sep 30, 2015 02:35pm

All Indians should respect the law. Law is above everything. Uttar Pradesh is a dirty state.

Bad Shah Khan Sep 30, 2015 02:39pm

Shame on us....fools exist in this side of the border as well !

BK Sep 30, 2015 02:40pm

This is totally unacceptable and condemnable. It is the route of ISIS. Culprits to be brought in book and ensure no such incident occurred in future.

Irfan Sep 30, 2015 02:42pm

Extremism will only lead to more extremism. This rhetoric from the Indian government was going to end up causing Indian Muslim clashes eventually and the tension is heading there again

Indian Sep 30, 2015 02:46pm

@Rohit Sharma

People are taking law in their hand in the absence of police not performing their duty.

People has RIGHT to take law in their hand in the absense of police not performing their duty.

BUT....

Taking law in own hand doesn't mean to kill someone. It means you can do what police may have done in that situation. And in this situation people has to arrest the accused without harming them (accused) and handover them (accused) to police in police station or present the accused in court.

As per Indian Law any Indian can arrest accused/criminal, if there is no police officer to do so.

Taimur Sep 30, 2015 02:48pm

India does not lack fanatics. This is very sad and indeed shameful of the country which claim to be a true democracy

Kulshreshtha Sep 30, 2015 02:48pm

The attack on the Muslim family can have no justification whatsoever. It must be condemned. The attackers must be brought to justice.

on looker Sep 30, 2015 02:50pm

@Rohit Sharma - what a pathetic apologist for the crime.

Vaibhav - Mumbai Sep 30, 2015 02:51pm

Very sad and disgusting.

Zero tolarance to Mob justice Sep 30, 2015 02:52pm

Mob justice should stop in India. Mob justice is barbarian.

Politics Sep 30, 2015 02:58pm

Local politicians are behind this disgusting incident.

sk Sep 30, 2015 02:59pm

Sad news. Culprits should be arrested asap. Please note this has happened in Uttar Pradesh which is ruled by samaajwai party with prominent Muslim leaders like Azam Khan. I hope the poor family gets justice and financial compensation.

indian Sep 30, 2015 02:59pm

I am ashamed of being lndian today. I am a firm believer that what someone is eating, wearing, thinking and following is a personal matter. State has nothing to do it as long as it is not harming others. I am sure we all Indians are united to crush the head of this a newly found intolerance in our society.

Hindutavi Rakshas Sep 30, 2015 03:02pm

RIP poor soul. We can't do anything other then expressing sympathy

Ajay ladkani Sep 30, 2015 03:07pm

Oh no. This is India and this will not be tolerated. Government must punish the culprits and provide compensation to affected family.

Swapnil Sep 30, 2015 03:07pm

Yes UN you need to define terrorism. these is just an another way of terrorism.Treat this mob as terrorist and punish them accordingly.

obivankanobi Sep 30, 2015 03:09pm

No Indian will have the moral right to accuse Pakistan of barbaric behaviour against non Muslims even if one such incudent takes place in our country. Modi and company are slowly digging their own grave. Ironically statistically the injustice doled out to minorities during the last 70 odd years since independence has been highest during Congress regime but since BJP has been more vocal the population immediately places the blame on their door everytime.

Sanjay Sep 30, 2015 03:10pm

Highly codemable act. Guilty should be punished.

Sadat Sep 30, 2015 03:11pm

@on looker : The law should be respected by all. If the victim had committed violation, he should have been punished as per law. No w punishment should be meted out to those responsible for killing the victim.

Elections Sep 30, 2015 03:11pm

This incident will be used by Secular/Liberal left wing parties to score points over religious right wing parties in elections. This incident will consolidate the respective vote banks by polarizing the communities.

P.Mishra Sep 30, 2015 03:13pm

Oh my God. This is a dangerous trend.People can rush to kill just based on rumor and kill some body ? In which way we are moving? A precious life is lost and the trauma for the family will continue for a long time.Even if some body's action hurts our religious sentiment, we do not have the right to take law on our end. Beside strict police action there must be awareness among the people for respect of law the land.

quest Sep 30, 2015 03:13pm

I am a firm believer that what someone is eating, wearing, thinking and following is a personal matter. State has nothing to do it as long as it is not harming others.

India First Sep 30, 2015 03:13pm

The disease of intolerance getting on to Indians also. The incident is so regrettable.

syam Sep 30, 2015 03:15pm

I am a Hindu and I condem this act. There is justice system. If any one has issues, opt for justice. One can not take law into hands. I feel sad to have extreamists in religion.

Ashraf Ahmad Sep 30, 2015 03:15pm

This kind of unfortunate behaviour really justifies the two nation theory and I owe many thanks to Mohammad Ali Jinnah.

The great hindu Sep 30, 2015 03:16pm

Sorry my country! Very bad .....if report is literally right............. .....I have know words to say........bhagwan uske family ko dukh ma shakti aur shaanti de

Razi Sep 30, 2015 03:16pm

That is in fact called 'Supari'. The leader of the temple or someone else may have taken money from a rival to kill that man or had developed personal enmity with the deceased. In uneducated societies these things are common where rogues assume unimaginable powers in the name of religion. It will take a few centuries for this part of the world to attain the maturity level that West has achieved. The leader of the temple must be charged for murder and or negligence if someone else used the temple to commit the heinous crime.

Akash Sep 30, 2015 03:21pm

Black day for India.

Sabeeh Ahmad Sep 30, 2015 03:24pm

That's the reason why Pakistan was created. Quaid-e-Azam knew that Muslims would never be given any right in Hindu dominated society economically and socially.

jpp Sep 30, 2015 03:25pm

that's what happen when u elect modi.

A true Fact Sep 30, 2015 03:30pm

so called democratic secular "HINDU-istan" .. the chai wala showing his true colors..

Rohit Sep 30, 2015 03:30pm

sad that this can happen in our nation...if someone is consuming beef....they should be free to do the same......

Dilectus Sep 30, 2015 03:30pm

Thank God, due to partician we are safe in Pakistan. That is what would happen to minority muslims being ruled by extremist Hindus.

Arslan Sep 30, 2015 03:30pm

Modi is feeding the plants of Hindu extremism and Pakistan is chopping down the religious extremism. We are correcting the problem, Indians are breeding.

AXH Sep 30, 2015 03:41pm

People need to realize that this mindless religious extremism is devouring and plaguing the society.

Pakistani Sep 30, 2015 03:43pm

This is secular India :) Thank you Quaid e Azam for giving us Pakistan.

Jatt Sep 30, 2015 03:46pm

Human life has no value in India which is and has always been dominated by the Hindutva brigade.

FACT Sep 30, 2015 03:46pm

Very shameful indeed. Humanity has fallen to a new low. Killing people on the basis of what they eat. Utterly disgusting.

south indian hindu Sep 30, 2015 03:50pm

Killing for choice of food is most dangerous trend and it leads to medieval period.

Blunt Sep 30, 2015 03:53pm

Thank you Quaid-e-Azam. Thank you Allam Iqbal.

sohail Sep 30, 2015 03:54pm

Modi Govt inciting hatred among Indian people with different religions. I havn't seen in my life such a frequent incident are happening ivolvong religious feelings since Modi Govt came in. India has to clear it's image as secular country which seems quite impossible as long as BJP in power.

FF Sep 30, 2015 03:55pm

No amount of shame is going to cover up about what is happening with minorities in secular India.

Hamza Sep 30, 2015 03:57pm

Two Nation theory proves to be right, always.

shaikh Sep 30, 2015 03:59pm

If anyone has to be killed for beef, then the Indian govt. qualifies for being 3rd largest exporter of beef in the world. hypocrisy at its peak!

M. Jan Sep 30, 2015 04:02pm

Welcome to Modi's new India.

Amaan Sep 30, 2015 04:03pm

Very sad and shameful

Harmony-1 Sep 30, 2015 04:03pm

@Rohit Sharma - My dear, crime is a crime. Two wrongs don't make a right. Killing is worse than eating 'illegal' beef. You think you are doing stellar work in glossing over if something looks bad in India but you are making it worse when people like you cannot condemn the condemnable!!!

Indian Sep 30, 2015 04:04pm

I feel sorry for Muslim brothers. Please do not take this incident as attitude of whole India. I personally respect and love all Muslim brothers.

Razi Sep 30, 2015 04:07pm

Just to add a point after reading the comments here, as far as the evil of ignorance and intolerance is concerned, this part of the world including India, Pakistan and Bangladesh is the same. That said, India has taken a very wrong turn by electing an extremist whereas in Pakistan the religious parties have actually lost ground. That is one area where Pakistan is ahead, otherwise India is progressing well, poised to take a global leadership role. That one move was perhaps a result of the previous regime that made the people frustrated and they chose Modi as a better alternative which may prove beneficial in other sectors but will destroy the social fabric of India. Just my opinion.

MAyOr Sep 30, 2015 04:08pm

@gaurav Stop labeling yourself secular and liberal if you can not allow the minorities to practice their believes ! What kind of hypocrisy is this !

Ali Sep 30, 2015 04:10pm

Shame on the concern government introduced law against their own people.

salman m Sep 30, 2015 04:10pm

Any Pakistanis who question why our forefathers fought for a separate land should now understand. This is why they fought so hard for our freedom. I salute them and I urge Indian muslims to fight for their basic rights.

Harmony-1 Sep 30, 2015 04:12pm

@Arslan - Your point is making sense in the current scenario. Yes, by the looks of it, Pakistan is on warpath to curb its extremism but India has just started fanning it by openly encouraging Hindutava and disharmony!

Freeman Sep 30, 2015 04:12pm

BJP and alike parties are leading India to same path where Zia ulhaq lead Pakistan. Pakistan already has paid the the price and India will have to. Bangladesh too is not much different. Worried about whole south asia

Malik Sep 30, 2015 04:13pm

What else to expect from modi's india??

Laws being passed to prohibit freedoms in a country that tries to portray itself as a secular nation yet has a scarred history of oppression of religious freedoms. The world saw it on Eid in Kashmir as well.

Raza Sep 30, 2015 04:13pm

The real picture of Modi's india

Mango Muncher Sep 30, 2015 04:20pm

Reading the comments of Indians who have expressed their disgust has given me some hope for the future.

Kashif Sep 30, 2015 04:22pm

@Raza And you don't think such stuff happens in other countries where religion has a stronghold among the public? This has got nothing to do with India or Hinduism solely, it has everything to do with how archaic religious scripture can be used to incite violence and hatred.

People need to put their religion under their control and not vice versa.

iftikhar Sep 30, 2015 04:29pm

@Rohit Sharma shame on such act. had it happened in pakistan media and rights groups would brand the state as extremist, terrorist etc. but shame on those who are silent on it

Indiann Sep 30, 2015 04:30pm

Just as Pakistan seems to be turning around from its worst, India seems to sinking deep into abyss.

M. Siddique Sep 30, 2015 04:30pm

So much for SECULAR Bharat. It seems ISIS counterpart in Hinduism is taking over Bharat.

Junaid Siddiqui Sep 30, 2015 04:31pm

Hence proved the two nation theory.

AR Sep 30, 2015 04:31pm

@Indian : You don't have to be sorry, we know that these type of animals lives on the both side of border, in fact in every society. The difference is that our governments are so week or other wise, they fail to catch them.

Uzair Sep 30, 2015 04:39pm

I hereby salute our forefathers for giving up their lives for an independent state for us Muslims

asgher Sep 30, 2015 04:39pm

Democratic india Shinning india where people are killed for NOT EATING BEEF

This incident is the proof that TWO NATION THEORY was true

muhammad ahmed khan Sep 30, 2015 04:41pm

a classic tragedy of subcontinent !!! what a shame being part of this part of world.

AIB Sep 30, 2015 04:44pm

Upcoming Bihar electiins are behind these type of riots.

Zubaida khan Sep 30, 2015 04:44pm

Why were samples sent for examination? If the law makes it unlawful to eat beef then that law is simply dumb. Next you can have a law for eating nuts.

So there are shelters for cows, what about shelters for the mass poor?

Sami Sep 30, 2015 04:46pm

@gaurav I agree, one must respect Hindu sentiments regarding cows, however beef or mutton, does not matter, no should be stoned (bricked) to death!

Zubaida khan Sep 30, 2015 04:47pm

@Indian India was a shining example of secularism. It is no more. When laws promoting the beliefs of one are imposed on all, secularism and all its benefits die at the altar of faith.

asgher Sep 30, 2015 04:47pm

@gaurav you guys claim to be a secular state and biggest democracy and yet hindus can kill people with bricks over their choice of meat?

(and before you start throwing crap at us, Pakistan is an Islamic republic so thats why we ban pork n alchohol)

N.S Sep 30, 2015 04:49pm

This beef ban law is intrinsically wrong and prejudiced. It will be used and abused by the local hardliners, their supporters in RSS, VHP type extremist parties for their own political constituency. How this bill or law got passed in India.

Manish Rathore Sep 30, 2015 04:53pm

South Asia is becoming worst place to live...I am worry about my children...why people dictate about someone food preferences...and look at the age of the person 50 years old...how can someone kill that innocent helpless man...

N.S Sep 30, 2015 04:55pm

@asgher Pork and alcohol is not banned for minorities in Pakistan. Also for Muslims it is prohibited, its not that people will kill any minority person such as a Christian for eating pork. They can eat it if it is available.

Hindutavi Rakshas Sep 30, 2015 04:58pm

India is the biggest exporter of beef in Asia. And the Tanneries the largest employers.

Pakistani Sep 30, 2015 05:01pm

Thank you Mr. Jinnah thank you so much for giving us PAKISTAN. I'll never take anything for granted anymore. I love you Pakistan it's wonderful to have ones own country. Thanks Mr. Jinnah I love you. ..May you rest in peace.

ali Sep 30, 2015 05:02pm

Is india a secular country?

Ajay ladkani Sep 30, 2015 05:03pm

@Sabeeh Ahmad don't bring cheap politics here. This was very sad things to happen and you can see from various letter that every Indian condemned this.

Logic Sep 30, 2015 05:03pm

Before we criticise India we need to realize that the exact same thing happens in our country, just with blasphemy instead of beef-eating. Extremism of these forms need to be eradicated. No one should have the freedom to organize a mob and torture someone over something like this

raj singh Sep 30, 2015 05:03pm

religion is like opium for masses.....whole south Asia is occupied with....shame

VB Sep 30, 2015 05:04pm

Strictest possible/ swiftest possible action to be taken. Beef ban is horrible thing in today's world. Aa a responsible Indian and devout Hindu I would like to protest by eating beef.

Syed Zafar Kazmi U. S. A Sep 30, 2015 05:05pm

@Freeman Add my voice to yours

AFZAL Sep 30, 2015 05:06pm

Is it not a big hypocrisy? I know of quite a lot of Hindus (also my friends) eat beef when there is an opportunity, whether within their own four walls or outside! Those Hindus living outside India in Europe or America go munching about beef-burgers, kebabs and the like. May be this is a campaign of the Modi government to export the cows to neighbouring countries, to the West to gain monetary benefits. In which Hindu scripture does it say to "kill a human being for an animal"? Killing one human being is like killing a whole humanity!

AFZAL Sep 30, 2015 05:07pm

This is also another form of terrorism!

Where is USA?

vijay Sep 30, 2015 05:10pm

As an Indian, I feel what one has in his plate is HIS business. Sorry to hear the loss of an innocent man's life.

Namo Sep 30, 2015 05:10pm

@Assad Totally agree with you Assad disgraceful behaviour of thugs like these should be punished.

NeutraView Sep 30, 2015 05:12pm

Where is the so called Secular India??

Asheesh Sep 30, 2015 05:12pm

No silly excuse, shame on us!

Andy 11 Sep 30, 2015 05:22pm

As an Indian and as a Hindu, I feel very sorry and ashamed at this. The perpetrators of this heinous crime should be brought to justice.

DownSouth Sep 30, 2015 05:23pm

It has nothing to do with religion, but all about politics. Hindutva politics, to be precise. My fellow Indians, why do we shy away from naming elephant in the room. Bihar election, RSS, VHP, Bhjrang Deal, BJP...ring any bell. How dare these guys use my religion to to score political points...

Haider Sep 30, 2015 05:29pm

These type of extremist have hijacked the peace process between the two countries and its about time peace loving people should air their opinion more often to show that silent majority wants peace in the region.

surinder usa Sep 30, 2015 05:30pm

i know some pure (100) hindu selling beef patty hamburgers in ithe united state of America , but thy don,t eat any meet .

DownSouth Sep 30, 2015 05:38pm

@AFZAL Yes Afzal, its absolute hypocrisy. Being an Hindu I have eaten it. Infact Indians always ate it, if one is a Hindu or not. Some may not eat, absolitley personal choice. If I have the freedom to have my own interpretation of god, then being a Hindu what on earth can stop me from what i choose to eat.

Rajan Singh Sep 30, 2015 05:39pm

shameful incident, condemn this barbaric incident, culprits must be punished. Law and Order situation is totally under chaos in Akhilesh UP.

Mhamza Sep 30, 2015 05:39pm

I am damn amazed that How Backward Indians are.. Beef is eaten all over the world, while only in Incredible India it is banned for no reason, Then they say that we r the biggest protectors of minority rights.

DAWN Reader Sep 30, 2015 05:40pm

I am an Indian and feel ashamed. Very sorry for the victim family. Police/Court should find the culprits and severely punish them and make an example out of it.

Fazal Sep 30, 2015 05:40pm

If this is the vision Mr. Modi has for India? This kind of hate incident only proofs that Indians have long way to becoming a developed country.

Aneesh(Supreme) Sep 30, 2015 05:43pm

Hope peace returns soon to the region.

Gurpreet Singh Sabharwal (USA) Sep 30, 2015 05:44pm

Extremely shameful & disturbing for every Indian. This is a side effect of making laws which are motivated by religion. Every Indian must condemn this strongly.

INDIAN Sep 30, 2015 05:45pm

First i condemn this incident. No one has right to take law in to hands. I also remember that such killings common in Pakistan in name of blasphemy.

Naxalite Sep 30, 2015 05:46pm

Thankyou Jinnah for earning us a Separate Homeland otherwise life would be real mess living with India

Mac Sep 30, 2015 05:47pm

Uttar Pradesh is not run by BJP !

Assamese Sep 30, 2015 05:47pm

This is an extremely disturbing news. We cannot allow to happen in the name of Hinduism. We survived 10000 years because of tolerance and respect for other faiths and beliefs. I am very sad today; I believe every Hindu has to rise up and stop this madness.

Sadhu Sep 30, 2015 05:47pm

I am a pure vegetarian, but I don't mind even to share the table with another fellow who is consuming any type of meat. The beef ban is not accepted by some of the states like Kerala, GOA etc. in spite of the fact that the ruling party is BJP in GOA.

Sampath Sep 30, 2015 05:48pm

Firstly this is a ghastly incident and will be condemned in India in the strongest terms. I hope the best medical facilities are made available to the surviving son. There are already many similar comments from Indians and I feel that will be the general pattern. Having said that I have some issues with some Pakistani comments blaming Modi for this.

Please understand this happened in Uttar Pradesh which is being ruled by Samajwaadi Party(SP) that is backed by Muslim and Yadav votebanks. Google and you will know the truth. UP and Bihar have some of the most dense populations that are manipulated by caste based parties. One hopes they break out of this cycle but the kind of leaders they have does not engender hope. There was a story of the UP police searching for SP leader Azam Khan's wandering buffaloes instead of fighting crime.

Dr Mazhar Sep 30, 2015 05:51pm

welcome to the secular India

Ali Sep 30, 2015 05:52pm

Indians!!! No need to be ashamed. We all know there are more good Indians out there who condem these acts and arent reponsible to apologize for ill actions of individuals..

We have been there so when know how these things feel.. Hope for swift justice.

Ashwani Sep 30, 2015 05:57pm

It is an inhuman and shameful act.. government must make an example of the perpetrators of this crime in the garb of religion.. being an Indian Hindu, it really fills me with deep anguish and shame.. it is against the most fundamental aspect of Hinduism.. i.e. the liberty of belief, thought and action in relation to the concept of God..

Namo Sep 30, 2015 05:57pm

@Assad Totally agree with you Assad these thugs should be jailed or punished.

East Indian Sep 30, 2015 06:03pm

Who incite and lead the mob? It started from the temple. Police should investigate the political and personal angle.

Azeem Sep 30, 2015 06:08pm

Indian Muslims justify creation of Pakistan. Pakistani society is far more accommodative to minorities than Indians. Shame to India.

ishtiaq khan Sep 30, 2015 06:08pm

He was Indian Muslim man. he was punished bcos he was muslim. what a shame!

Ahmed Ali Sep 30, 2015 06:09pm

It's Modi's India, no surprise. As the Indians say, he is taking India ahead, and they love him for that.

Canada Sep 30, 2015 06:11pm

Samples of meat sent? Arresting a "spy pigeon"? These are some odd procedures.

Osman Din Sep 30, 2015 06:13pm

I'll start eating beef now.

PEACE FOR ALL Sep 30, 2015 06:13pm

feel ashamed for what the mob has done nobody has right to take anybodys life.this should never happen in india where are people and future india heading.rule of law should be followed by all.

Alex Sep 30, 2015 06:13pm

Look at that biggest democracy!

amar Sep 30, 2015 06:14pm

I don't want to live in this country anymore.

Azeem Sep 30, 2015 06:14pm

@vic very right. Humans are more precious then animals.

Shah Sep 30, 2015 06:16pm

@India
Dear Indians, culprits will never be punished, because BJP promotes religious hate. BJP came into power by selling hate.

Khan Sep 30, 2015 06:16pm

This is why Hindu and Muslims can't live together.

reality bites Sep 30, 2015 06:16pm

Didn't know that beef is banned in India or any part of it. I remember seeing butcher shops selling beef and mutton, from my childhood visits in Hyderabad, back in the 70s.

Imran Sep 30, 2015 06:16pm

@East Indian "It started from the temple" Yes we know. It always starts from place of worship. Sadly you guys are slipping into the hole which we are crawling out of. All the best.

Khwarezmi Sep 30, 2015 06:22pm

@Razi Relax Razi. India will not become a super power and get a UNSC seat as a new member will have to represent a region which India do not. Also, having a hostile relation with the 5th largest country and a nuclear flashpoint over Kashmir will forever keep India glued down to local conflict. India's power projection ends at Wahga border and the world knows it.

Shaleen Mathur Sep 30, 2015 06:25pm

I don't like beef but we don't want priests who preach hate. That pandit should be charged with murder alongside actual rioters. India should get rid of this filth.

hari Sep 30, 2015 06:31pm

Culprits should face strict punishment. I am not a fan of capital punishment but this is a rarest of rare case. Also the family should be compensated by the government and steps need to be taken at lowest levels to educate people so that this henious crime is not repeated.

jkumar Sep 30, 2015 06:33pm

I am ashamed to be an Indian after hearing this news. I hope authorities will make an example so it won't happen again.

cat Sep 30, 2015 06:37pm

@Indian You call yourself human yet you are promoting violence again....WOW

ashar Sep 30, 2015 06:39pm

What a criminal priest... Let see if the bereaved family gets the justice or not. This will decide the future fate of Indian minorities and the course of action require from them.

Ahmad Sep 30, 2015 06:39pm

Digital india!

Tamil Sep 30, 2015 06:43pm

As long as Modi is PM, our secular democratic country will get eroded into extremism and eventual demise.

Adnan Sep 30, 2015 06:43pm

Extremism hit Pakistan first, now it's Indian turn to be destroyed.

kartikay ungrish Sep 30, 2015 06:44pm

Mr Modi led BJP is doing a great job on most fronts but I feel they need to tighten monkeys seating on their tails and i am sure India is too mature and inherently strong to check these foolish radicals irrespective of their caste and religion. All mankind must judge people by their contribution to society and World at large not by their religious priorities or eating habits. And i can assure all Pakistanis that most Indians of my generation believe that. These are freak incidents in a huge and otherwise amazingly diverse yet secular and tolerant country. These unfortunate incidents must be condemnded perpetrators of crime must be given stringent punishment at the earliest. A handful of goons and megalomaniacs can not be allowed to bring down the great name of India and Indian Identity. Period !

commonsense Sep 30, 2015 06:49pm

When law is weak criminals take law into their hand, this is what has happened in this case.

Obaid K2 Sep 30, 2015 06:51pm

This is reality and defines the differences that is why Muslim and Hindu can not live together. Therefore we have Pakistan for Muslims and India for Hindus. India should kick out all the remaining Muslims to Pakistan and also split the Kashmir into two proper parts. If India don't do this then in future it will be broken into further parts.

Tiya Sep 30, 2015 07:01pm

Well yes we are two different nations ,,I'm thank full for the generations that fought and sacrificed for Pakistan ,,,I value my country more .

indian citzen Sep 30, 2015 07:05pm

Shamefull act for we Indians.

Arun Bhaskaran Sep 30, 2015 07:07pm

@Rohit Sharma Eating or Selling of beaf is not banned in Uthar Pradesh. This is such a shamefull incident and no Such things should occur again.

frustrated indian Sep 30, 2015 07:07pm

The day majority starts forcing their opinion on the minority of even one...liberty looses... the practices of individual not affecting others should be protected. ..if u want to ban, ban all meat products for animal rights concerns. Targeted prohibition is unacceptable to the people of india in large...if not how are we different from taliban!!!

ozzi Sep 30, 2015 07:17pm

@hassan ; they haven't reach to MARS, they just built a smaller telescope with help of NASA (US)

GabruNYC Sep 30, 2015 07:21pm

I am very angry today. I flew all the way from New York to vote for better India. I see India getting on the same path as one time Pakistan under Zia's rule. We do not need such development till we learn to respect human life and remove fanaticism.

Jawwad Sep 30, 2015 07:25pm

Nothing but proves the two nation theory. Jinnah was miles ahead in his vision.

Reddy Sep 30, 2015 07:26pm

I'm an Indian and Hindu. I feel ashamed that this has happened.

Karachite Sep 30, 2015 07:27pm

Sample of meat were sent to the lab??? Are they freaking kidding me!!!

Wisdom Sep 30, 2015 07:29pm

FIR should be registered against Modi for creating religious hysteria against Muslims

Kumar Sep 30, 2015 07:31pm

Extremely saddened and shocked to read about the brutal killing of an innocent poor man over his choice of food. When a country is forging ahead in almost all spheres, these kind of incidents will spell doom for our image and future prospects. State and Central government should swing into action immediately to nab the culprits and teach them a lesson for life. We want harmony and peace to exist among all communities, Hindus, Muslims Christians Sikhs Janis etc etc. RIP Muhammed Aklaq. As a nation we failed you.Sorry.

atul gupta Sep 30, 2015 07:38pm

When I put myself in the situation of Ikhlaq or for that matter anyone who has been a victim of a frenzied lynch mob, I shudder to think about what him and his family must have gone through that fateful night. Helpless, begging for his life. I feel a sense of outrage anger and utter sorrow.

Any place of worship ( be it a temple, church, synagogue, mosque) which is used as a venue for instigating violence against anyone should immediately cease to be a place of reverence and should be destroyed.

lalo Sep 30, 2015 07:38pm

I"m Indian, hindu and I"m ashamed of this. How, only a handful of people, in the name of power and religion can do such a crime ?!! Mob has no brains, wherever it is.

anony Sep 30, 2015 07:43pm

Shinning india.

Thank god I live in Pakistan where I am free to consume beef burgers and steaks at will.

hassan Sep 30, 2015 07:46pm

Not all is well in Pakistan either, but this kind of savage behaviour can only be witnessed in India. Regular Indians need to stand together on these issues of madness, otherwise all of India would be labelled as a savage illiterate society. So Indians getting a handful of top Corporate jobs means nothing, what difference does it make anyway, if a few hundred or thousand out of a Billion make it at the top, practically nothing. Widespread violence on Indian women, and now this criminal savagery, needs to be looked at. I guess with all the focus on Pakistan is affecting this much needed self reflection.

Dabangg Sep 30, 2015 07:49pm

@Indian True. I wouldn't want to step foot in central India.

Dr K Sep 30, 2015 07:49pm

As an Indian Hindu I am very embarrassed and feel sad that some innocent person lost his life.

Dabangg Sep 30, 2015 07:50pm

@anony If eating beef and steak if you measure of a good life then good for you. Rest of us want jobs, infrastructure, peace etc.

Aleem Sep 30, 2015 07:52pm

As many of our Indian (Hindu) friends are sharing their disgust at this act against these hapless people, please remember that when some nuts among the Muslims do the same, it is not as if all of us support or condone them. It is en vogue now to label all Muslims as extremists, but like most Hindus and peoples of other religions, the vast majority of Muslims also condemn all types of extremism in the name of Islam. I share this today so in the future non-Muslims also understand that we the Muslims do not represent the extremists who kill innocents in the name of God for a political purpose or to make a statement.

atul gupta Sep 30, 2015 07:54pm

@hassan I beg to differ Hassan. It is grave tragedy and not the time for point scoring. Such unfortunate things happen on both sides of border with disturbing regularity under one pretext or the other.

The problem is that direct perpetrators of such crimes are often the poor and the sufferes are often the poor.

samsonite Sep 30, 2015 07:55pm

@obivankanobi : My dear sir, if the incidents have increased after Modi why should such incidents happen only in states ruled by Non BJP parties ?? As per your logic if Hindutva fanatics have done this then they should have chosen a BJP ruled state where the chances of getting away is higher thanks to Modi. But there are no communal disturbances in BJP ruled states.

Moreover congress or any of the secular parties could have done this to increase insecurity among muslims to secure their vote bank and to establish the fact that after Modi the situation has worsened. So please do not jump to conclusions with half baked theories. Let the investigations reveal the actual culprits.

Pervaiz Iqbal Sep 30, 2015 07:55pm

@gaurav

What are those rights given to Muslims that are not enjoyed by Hindus? Could you please indicate them?

awais Sep 30, 2015 07:56pm

In south east Asia, Speculation is always more powerful than the truth. In these two countries one should have mutual respect for each other.

Concerned Sep 30, 2015 07:56pm

It is indeed a shameful act by few individuals,

nasir awan Sep 30, 2015 07:59pm

what a secular state India is!!!!!!!"

Riaz Murtaza Sep 30, 2015 08:01pm

Real picture of India.

Jason Sep 30, 2015 08:01pm

@Indian Not your fault. Just plain ignorance. Happens all over the world. I do really feel sorry for the entire family, and the community. What can we all do to make this better for everyone, regardless of country, or religion.

Faiez Sep 30, 2015 08:02pm

I really thank muhammad Ali Jinnah for the creation of pakistan after reading this article

Jason Sep 30, 2015 08:03pm

@Maverik Cannot blame entire India for it. Majority I presume will not support this type of behavior against anyone. I know in Pakistan we do not treat other religions well either.

PShailendra Sep 30, 2015 08:03pm

Shameful incidence. My condolence to the family.

PShailendra Sep 30, 2015 08:07pm

@fowms : I Agree - its stupid of the police to even take the sample of the meet. What matters is the mob killed a person - and the motive is religious intolerance. Hope the justice is quick and the culprits are punished via Fast Track court.

commonsense Sep 30, 2015 08:07pm

@Aleem Agree with you sir, yes there was a movie made by Sharuhkhan as "My name is Khan and I am not a terrorist". But Extremism and terrorism lot more than other religions like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism and Christianity which Liberal Muslims should counter. I know that most Muslims are peace-loving.

Gs Sep 30, 2015 08:10pm

Surprised at comments here from Pakistani friends. What I saying is not to justify this killing and this is bad for our society. Even Indian central government didin't like it. before your generalise anything it is time to introspect, that many incident like this happen in Pakistan also. I still remember many Hindus and Christians getting killed in Pakistan for religious issues. So there are rogue and radical elements everywhere. A country of 100 million with more Muslims than Pakistan does not become bad for Muslims because of one incident. Atleast here police fired shots which injured the mob. Dawn in matured paper and the similar maturity should be shown by Pakistani readers also in analysing any news. God bless.

jawed eqbal Sep 30, 2015 08:12pm

This is a border drawn with blood.On both sides, human life means nothing. Fundamentalism at it best. Mout donon taraf hi sasti hai! inteha ki khuda parasti hai.

Malik USA Sep 30, 2015 08:20pm

@Gs Don't worry my brother. It is all vise versa. If something happens in Pakistan like this, you will get more worst comments by Indian. So its mind setup. It is bad and can not be promoted. And it should be stopped. Because nobody is above human. If anyone who is enemy of humanity must be condemned.

Anand Sep 30, 2015 08:20pm

This is why Pakistan was created. As one minister in India put it- if you want to eat beef go to Pakistan!

Al Sep 30, 2015 08:23pm

where is the international outcry? if the victim was a hindu/christian in pakistan his family would be addressing the u.n right now, double standards and shame

Abul Narayan D'souza Sep 30, 2015 08:25pm

Shame shame shame on India and Indians like me. My heart goes out for that man and his family. Not a single religion can produce a good human here is the proof of the pudding.

Progressing Sep 30, 2015 08:28pm

Its very unfortunate that this type of ignorance and playing GOD happens in our part of the world,its no different here in Pakistan,its a shame some people take the religion so seriously that they are willing to take a human life,but in reality,they should look at themselves before judging others.

Nav Sep 30, 2015 08:32pm

@Rohit Sharma. That's like apologizing for the fanatics!

mustafa Sep 30, 2015 08:32pm

it is a pity that narendra modi is taking india down this path. you kill some one for eating beef. what happened to secularism or even basic human rights. modi should know inciting religious hatred ultimately kills own self. I am sad and sorry. modi should realize if he throws fuel to the fire it will only burn stronger.

Ayan das bangalore Sep 30, 2015 08:33pm

shame , all Hindus should condemn, muslims are our brothers we cannot let this thing I am rss supporter but I felt very bad .

indians Sep 30, 2015 08:34pm

I think some people needs to grow up... pls first start respecting human life than you can start caring for some animal life.

Prasad Sep 30, 2015 08:40pm

This is only fueling communal tension. Such a shame for this cowardly act.

Set aside politics and the temple priest should be punished.

Ahmed Kashif Saeed Sep 30, 2015 08:47pm

With out any doubt, very unfortunate incident and totally agreed that this particular incident don't represent the Indian society but we should apply the same in Pakistan.

Riaz Sep 30, 2015 08:52pm

I am truly touched by the sentiments shown by Indians in general and Hindus in particular.

Fjk Sep 30, 2015 08:54pm

So inhumane

ravian Sep 30, 2015 08:59pm

All apologists are here. but shows deep seated hatred . What can you expect from state led by a Murderer who till recently was forbidden to enter Us. Money makes stage bedfellows.

Pakistani Sep 30, 2015 09:00pm

Read these articles and let us help our Hindu neighbors , just push cows across the borders and we will take care of rest and also give you your share:

http://time.com/3833931/india-beef-exports-rise-ban-buffalo-meat/

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/05/news/economy/india-beef-exports-buffalo/

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-on-top-in-exporting-beef/article7519487.ece

Patriotic Indian Sep 30, 2015 09:03pm

Extremely disappointed to hear this sad news. I am ashamed by the act of few religious Hindu zealots against our muslim brothers.

I will also point out the fact that Islamic states also "enforce" their religious beliefs on non-Muslims Like "no public eating during Ramzan" etc. These days such emotional news are read world over and then non-Muslims begin to be assertive in enforcing their religious beliefs on Muslims in reaction leading to such heinous acts.

Gaurav Arya Sep 30, 2015 09:05pm

Very stupid act. Killing a man because he eats beef? Wow. This has to be a new low for us. If someone eats beef, let him. He is free to do what he wants. More than sad, this incident is sheer stupidity.

Brahmdev Vashisht Sep 30, 2015 09:06pm

This never happened in any part of India earlier . It is true that some Sadhus from south India were protesting earlier in the week in Varanasi were badly beaten by the police , of course politically motivated and hushed by the media . This attack is the result of the anger of the people that UP's pseudo secular SP govt. is working against the interest of Hindus . Sad it is and politics at its worst .

Arjun Sep 30, 2015 09:06pm

I am very Sad..Someone are taking political advantage by doing these things.Because Gram Panchayt Election are coming in UP. I am blaming to those people who are in the crowd and their political leader to interfere these issue...Because Religious issue are much more attractive than unemployment,poverty and other issue.

moni Sep 30, 2015 09:08pm

@Indian could not agree with you more. Its becoming more and more common now. PM Modi should personally take a look into this matter.

SANJAY Sep 30, 2015 09:09pm

Sad to hear this . What has happened to our country. why people are going so intolerant .

azkhan71 Sep 30, 2015 09:12pm

This incident shows how backward India is even though they are portraying that they are becoming next super power. But the truth is that the mass population is still living in dark ages of religion & color differences.

Shafiullah khan Sep 30, 2015 09:12pm

Terrorism of all types should be tackled. .....enough for the people saying secular India

Ashish Sep 30, 2015 09:13pm

Really so sad..........

Gaurav Arya Sep 30, 2015 09:18pm

Gaurav - I am a Hindu and a practicing one. But you are plain stupid. You are an Indian and you should know what you are saying. It's not whether someone will not die by not eating beef. The issue is that we live in India and the Constitution of India guarantees rights. My country is BIGGER than my religion. I don't like it when cows are killed but that is my personal problem. I cannot kill someone for eating beef. You understand that you are an Indian and not from some Banana Republic of Saudi Arabia, right?

We are no one to give Muslim any rights. They are Indian citizens and they have as many rights as you and I. Do you want me to say this loudly again, just so that you understand me...?

Brahmdev Vashisht Sep 30, 2015 09:18pm

Akhilesh Yadav govt. offended Hindus by beating up unarmed non-violent protest of Sadhus in Varanasi . A few days later a man is dragged out of his house , beaten up badly and killed for what ? For his eating choices ? I mean come on , people quit playing politics . An innocent life is lost because of these ugly politicians .

Kalim Sep 30, 2015 09:20pm

I'm a Kashmiri and I can say, as long as Modi is the prime minister of India, no one should be surprised by extremists and Hindu temples spreading venom about Muslims and lynching Muslims on such excuses. Shame on Modi's India.

Imran Sep 30, 2015 09:24pm

@moni " Its becoming more and more common now. PM Modi should personally take a look into this matter." Janaab-e-aali Modi ji IS personally looking into this. That's why you are in this mess.

Raza Sep 30, 2015 09:26pm

In honour of this shaheed, ill be eating beef for a month

TAMILAN Sep 30, 2015 09:28pm

As an Indian, I condemn this act and the law should get justice to the victim's family.

Ishtiaq khan Sep 30, 2015 09:30pm

We should register our protest and boycott anything to do with India. Let's promise until they explain and assure that this would not happen again.

shahid Sep 30, 2015 09:32pm

@xoro, it is not about the government. It is the poisoned mindset which has been on display so many times including Gujrat massacre and Barberi majid incident. RSS and BJP are the major forces behind developing this midset and it is going to hurt India in the longer run. No nation ever can develope under such circumstances where major political powers sell hatered. Modi may be good for India in other respects but not on communal front,

kafi Sep 30, 2015 09:34pm

Unfortunate and sad.

Azhar Sep 30, 2015 09:40pm

Let's pray for the deceased and for his family. This is not a new incident and it will not be lost one. It is Modi effect.

Simran Sep 30, 2015 09:45pm

Very unfortunate incident. It's good to know police has arrested 6 alleged culprits and hope rest are caught soon. They will be punished for sure in the courts.

Zeeshan Sep 30, 2015 09:45pm

Secularism at its best. Should this be also called hinduist terrorism?

Sonny Afridi Sep 30, 2015 09:50pm

Thank God we have Pakistan

Politics Sep 30, 2015 09:53pm

There are parties in India promoting beef and there are parties in India banning it, this confrontation between political parties has resulted in such incidents.

Sonny Afridi Sep 30, 2015 09:55pm

This is Modis india. Actually it's a blessing in disguise, let them implode from within

narvinnie Sep 30, 2015 09:56pm

No one I mean no one has the right to tell you that what we can and what we cannot eat. Government of India needs to take a serious look at what is being done by goons of religious groups. It's not only giving Modi government a bad name it also can cause problems.

Shahid Akbar, New York Sep 30, 2015 09:57pm

I am thankful to all posting their fair comments on this issue. However, I am so sad that they could not find other than 'chaie wala' as their Prime Minister. Oh! I do not need lecture on "the biggest democracy" in the world. It is a bull crap.

masood Sep 30, 2015 09:57pm

It is a sad exaple of how people shold be condemned for putting religion first and humanity later,i am sure that NO religion asks to kill innocents, sadly muslims are commiting the same crime when they have killed innocent Ahmadi's, in the past. If non violent people stay quiet, they are siding with the killers.

sssj Sep 30, 2015 10:00pm

Hats off to some indian comments below, they show the moral upper hand when they openly acknowledge how wrong this was. salutations to you gentlemen. This is where we Pakistanis fail, we fail to condemn even the most brutal acts that are committed by our equivalent of hindu fundamentalist.

dania Sep 30, 2015 10:06pm

@gaurav its about a rumor, on which people died. The rumor may not be true. And even if it is, killing should not be permissible.

saad Sep 30, 2015 10:07pm

@Indian the irony is you most probably were part of this.....

SUNIL Sep 30, 2015 10:08pm

Hang the fanatics who want to ban something or other and create unrest. They are hell bent on creating ban-istan out of a free country

saad Sep 30, 2015 10:09pm

@DesiGal genocide in Burma, raping girls in metro cities. ..... killing women by labelling as witches and now this...... india a shame on global map

@expat Sep 30, 2015 10:10pm

Indians are playing with fire. Extremism will take them back to stone age.

lafanga Sep 30, 2015 10:11pm

@sssj "This is where we Pakistanis fail, we fail to condemn even the most brutal acts that are committed by our equivalent of hindu fundamentalist"

Not sure which Pakistan you are referring to but any senseless act like this involving religion is summarily condemned by all Pakistanis. Show me an example otherwise.

Dawn ... not sure why you are censoring all my comments on this story. I don't think I was being rude to any Indian if that is what you are afraid of.

Jamal Sep 30, 2015 10:22pm

I could not believe that I live in 21st century. When we will be free from extremists who kill others based on their extreme beleives. killing other people based on beleives is nothing but stupidity.

Munir Sep 30, 2015 10:26pm

Height of idiocracy. I am a vegetarian but under no circumstance I will condone a person's right to freedom of choice- food, speech and association. Fundamentalism is the worst enemy of mankind.

A Sikh Sep 30, 2015 10:30pm

I am going to start eating beef from now on. Come to Punjab and stop us!

A Sikh Sep 30, 2015 10:31pm

@Indian The day Modi took the office, it was destined. It is just the start. You have Hindu Talibans on the cards and enjoy that problem now.

adil Sep 30, 2015 10:36pm

I understand that almost all the Indian will oppose to this barbaric act along with the world but someone need to control over UP and Bihar with iron hands. Now this will create another ciaos and distance between the different religious citizens. You can not be granted for all your wishes and certainly not just for being poor and do what ever you want. Friends in India, thank you for raising up voices for the poor deceased man and his family.

rich Sep 30, 2015 10:39pm

they should be hnged after fast track court

as an indian I support the removal of beef ban in india

keep religion out, or bjp will be out

we voted bjp for development not any other agenda

M.Saeed Sep 30, 2015 10:41pm

The attack on Akhlaq after a local temple allegedly announced the family had been consuming beef, is almost the same story like in Pakistan blasphemy killings by the mob without confirmation of the accusations.

Maxx Sep 30, 2015 10:44pm

If Hindu's revered cows and consider them God it's fine, if they don't eat beef, it's perfectly right. But imposing the same belief and banning beef consumption on minorities comes under apartheid and bigotry. No one can, and should not dictate what others eat. This is the least common denominator to be called a civilized society.

Pasha Sep 30, 2015 10:57pm

This why Pakistan came into being.

Seedoo Sep 30, 2015 11:11pm

To all our Indian friends who never spare a chance to put Pakistan and Pakistanis down and rub it in us about how advanced and tolerant India is and how backward Pakistan is, I hope you guys realize that just like Pakistan, you guys have a long way to go.

Let us forge ties and build a better South Asia for its inhabitants. Putting each other down and deriving pleasure out of each other's miseries does no good to either country.

Maxx Sep 30, 2015 11:11pm

All the world media including BBC, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, NY times flashed this despicable news at their front pages. Modi government need to understand charity begins at home...image perception is not important than the actual reality. If you build a false image just by lobbying firms and hiring media moguls, chances are it won't last long. Truth always prevails...

Bikram Singh Sep 30, 2015 11:26pm

Modi may be wooing the West with all the propaganda and hype but the reality remains that India is not a safe place for minorities. Every day innocent Sikhs, Muslims, Christians, and low cast people are killed. Mob mentality has always been the trademark of majority in India....it continues to be the case despite all the claims of India being a great world democracy. There is no justice for the minorities. The statement that police is taking sample of the food from refrigerator is a mockery. Even if the family had beef at home. so what? Instead of picking up the culprits police is picking up the meat. India is # 1 exporter of beef in the world. If beef is so sacred then why kill the cows and export to foreign? Anyways you get the point. Hypocrisy and Injustice rules.

vidyut Sep 30, 2015 11:35pm

The modernity of the cities hides the backwardness in large parts of rural India. As an Indian i am ashamed that a man was killed. As a Hindu i am ashamed that this murder was committed in my name. To all muslims i apologise. If this family were to decide that the current India is not a place for muslims i would grudgingly agree. India is not a secular or safe place and as an Indian i think we have failed its citizens. Shame on us.

khan Oct 01, 2015 12:01am

Thank you Jinnah!

Taimoor Khan Oct 01, 2015 12:02am

Thanks God we got Pakistan where we can freeze beef as much as we want. India is becoming a joke world wide, and that is the real "modi effect".

Javed Oct 01, 2015 12:04am

What a crime? Don't these Hindus involved have little common sense to lab test meat first and then kill. This is illetracy at it's best. I am a Muslim and we do have the same illetracy issue with extremism. God help humanity.

Nasir Oct 01, 2015 12:05am

Thank you Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal for giving us Pakistan. I enjoyed beef for lunch today.

shaheryer Oct 01, 2015 12:13am

this is inhumanity in india. where is united nation? they always speak when a muslim does this and all islam is targetted, but when a nonmuslim does this no one in the world who says against it and when someone says he says that individual is mentally ill or was ill? this is true discrimination against islam.

fawad Oct 01, 2015 12:15am

very nice comments here from the non-muslims \ Indian posters here. Proves that there is good and bad on both sides.

riling up the mass and killing minorities using blasphemy law in Pakistan or banning beef and killing minorities because of it.

shaheryer Oct 01, 2015 12:15am

this is inhumanity in india. where is united nation? they always speak when a muslim does this and all islam is targetted, but when a nonmuslim does this no one in the world who says against it and when someone says he says that individual is mentally ill or was ill? this is true discrimination against islam.

Najam Oct 01, 2015 12:21am

So called secular indian.only hindus have their religious rights.

AJ Oct 01, 2015 12:21am

If you ever needed a proof of the truth of the Two Nation Theory here it is. Jinnah and Iqbal stand vindicated.

hassan Oct 01, 2015 12:27am

@atul gupta No points being scored here, especially on a tragedy, that is done on your part of land, the previous comment stems from the fact that a country claims , , whenever there is something against minorities or about a neighbouring country, there are shouts of freedom of speech and the worlds oldest democracy and how violent certain neighbours are, but then we see there is a BAN on BBC documentary and general human rights violations etc....

Venu Oct 01, 2015 12:36am

I hope the culprits are given exemplary punishment. It should also be swift to ensure that the message comes across clearly, and strongly. Truth must be established, and justice pursued without fear. Trial by media with political motivations will remain a hindrance.

zafar Oct 01, 2015 12:42am

Shame on india...killing people for eatung beef.. shame

Samir Rai Oct 01, 2015 12:46am

This very perverse act. Killing an innocent man. I am a Hindu and the people who committed the crime can't be human beings but animals. Hope the culprits are brough to book.

Samir Rai Oct 01, 2015 12:47am

@kamran Very true Kamran. Illiteracy and extreme religious views is recipe for disaster for all of us

Narayanan Oct 01, 2015 01:00am

What a pity that in the name of religion we kill human beings and destroy families.

N.S Oct 01, 2015 01:04am

BJP came into power in 1993 after Advani Ji Rath Yatra from Gujrat to Ayodhaya, no one can forget the blood letting on every street of India at that time. Then M0di got the historic win in Gujrat after the biggest historic slaughter in Gujrat. Then Muzzaffarpur massacre made him PM. Now these people are eyeing on Bihar and UP elections...divide and rule, create hatred and fear and win elections...simple as that.

Sab Se Pehle Pakistan Oct 01, 2015 01:06am

Minority leaders should join hands and protest against this extremism before it gets too late. Punishing the culprits is in the best interest of India because they won't be able to suppress millions of people. This incident was the last nail in the coffin for secular India. India is a Hindu state now period.

Asghar Valika Oct 01, 2015 01:09am

Hindu extremism under Modi Government flourishing big time...

zunny Oct 01, 2015 01:11am

its always a handful of extremists that ignite the fire and the illiterates follow suit...shameful act. This is the main reason Pakistan was carved out. if only the people who mattered didn't play into the hands of such extremists ideology. Muslims had lived peacefully with Hindus and vice versa. hindus to follow their religion in whatever way you want and let muslims eat / practice what they want. I can bet if this mistrust was addressed Musims and Hindus would have co existed till this very day. PEACE OUT HUMANS you only have a few decades to live in this world. why waste it in hatred?

Noor ul Qamar Oct 01, 2015 02:08am

The killing must be strongly condemned but so far no Indian channel has expressed any anger over the sending of meat to laboratory.

Talagola Oct 01, 2015 02:26am

Dawn doesn't print but trying again. To my Indian friends, we were tolerant society till mid and late 70's until one day Zia decided to take over and correct all that was immoral, and he was only successful in breeding intolerance and fanaticism. Modi's India is going the same. Today media frenzy is such that nothing is local or regional. States don't sanction these atrocities the only instigate it advertantly or not that's besides the point. So watch out India and learn your lesson from your neighbors.

Mustafa Oct 01, 2015 03:54am

Modi, BJP and RSS are playing with fire. Smaller incidents can turn into something huge and uglier.

obivankanobi Oct 01, 2015 04:04am

I am confident that the Indian justice system will bring all those responsible to pay and justice should be seen by the whole nation to be done. Since it was homicide and not murder they will escape with life sentences but they will be out of prison when they cannot even walk straight anymore due to age.

AJ Oct 01, 2015 04:42am

Public show of Religion should be banned - illogical following of religion (be it Jews, Christians, Muslims or Hindus) have caused most death & damage (in the name of religion) to humanity than any other crime or disease. Smart politicians/ kings/ rulers over the history have used religion to get power / money at the expense of the masses. Its about time that masses wake up & follow the religion as its meant to be rather than its propagated.

Cyrus Oct 01, 2015 04:57am

@DesiGal .... Your view is very clear, and probably most Indians support the same view.

Akil Akhtar Oct 01, 2015 05:22am

In Pakistan alcohol is banned for all muslims but non muslims get a permit to buy and consume it. We have never heard of muslims attacking any non muslims for consuming alcohol.

Indian THINKER Oct 01, 2015 06:08am

@fowms I too don't know what the hell are they trying to achieve by sending the meat to a lab. He has every right to eat a meat of his preference. We(Indians Hindus) even permit the "aghoris" to eat dead human flesh. (In fact who are we to permit? as long as they are not killing anybody its OK). Misguided Religious Fanaticism(both Hindu and Muslim) is curse of the sub-continent.

Shahid Oct 01, 2015 06:26am

Extremism and fanaticism is creeping in Indian society, especially since last general elections.

Mohammad Oct 01, 2015 06:29am

RSS Taliban in charge, that's why Quaid e Azam Mohammad A Jinnah made Pakistan. Majority of Hindus are very respectful to others, these are just few criminals like they have in Pakistan. .

Deepinder Singh Oct 01, 2015 07:09am

I think its a sad day for Indian democracy and secularism. The bigotry and intolerance is increasing day by day.this is not India our father dreamed of.

Sanjay Oct 01, 2015 07:14am

@AJ In India Muslims have been Peesident, Chief election commisioner, Chief Justice, Top businessman, Movie stars and the list goes on and on. In Pakistan minorities can not even dream of it.Mr. Jinnah was Shia and even does not qualify to be a Muslim as per fundamentalist Pakistan. It's strange a society neck deep in intolerance is raising fingers.

Sanjay Oct 01, 2015 07:23am

@zunny Totally agree with you my friend.Muslims and Hindus lived in Harmony for centuries till Britishers divided us.They did the same in Middle East.We should be posting against what they did to us!

Vasudevan Oct 01, 2015 08:29am

@asgher Democracy means government elected by the people. Secular means government does not have any bias against any religion. However how does this translate to prevention of individual acts of barbarity and savagery ? Democracy has ensured that the event is published and secularism has caused many to condemn the incident. This is all part of a regressive mindset which is common in our part of the world. Let us all condemn this as a savage attack on humanity

Sunil Lakhanpal Oct 01, 2015 02:02pm

Public has no right to kill ....A very tragic tale ...Where is modern India ,and why should sample be sent ?

Sunil Lakhanpal Oct 01, 2015 02:07pm

@manoj we shall not throw everything on politics ,we indians as of now do not respect law or do not fear law under religion umbrella..

dshuman Oct 01, 2015 04:35pm

extremely sad and shameful... no other words...

i hope mulayum yadav govt will get the justice done and fast

USMAN Oct 01, 2015 04:44pm

@xoro why don't PM Modi and BJP ... may be you don't want to tell about Yogi (Now Mahant) Adityanath, Sakshi Maharaj, sadhvi Prachi ... all belong to BJP .. and Somnath Bharti who got facilitated by BJP as he played part in inciting riots in MuzaffarNagar .. and PM Modi doesn't tell twitter about them to stop..also not in his MANN ki BAAT

USMAN Oct 01, 2015 04:45pm

@xoro also why BJP is not implement beef ban in GOA where BJP is in government ... don't lie before internation audience

Arslan Oct 01, 2015 05:02pm

This version is soft compared to what is on BBC. The mob hit women of the household too.

Why is it that Indian posters here say 'if this story is true' on almost every terrible story coming out of India?

USMAN Oct 01, 2015 05:25pm

correction ... not somnath bharti .. it was sangeet som and suresh rana who were facilitated by PM Modi himself because both played part in Muzaffarnagar riots .. even both now have Z+ security provided by Centre ... so how do you expect that even Centre will take any action on this incidence

Dr,Sadaf Oct 01, 2015 06:16pm

@sab , do not bring Pakistan into it, it has nothing to do with what happened. This is purely Indian problem.

Rock_zilla Oct 01, 2015 06:44pm

As a Hindu, i dont think killing is the way forward.

what anyone eats is his business. if its illegal, u may report to the authorities. But violence is not the answer,

especially if it instills fear in someone who is of our own country.

before being violent, please imagine the plight of the people associated with the person who is killed or injured. his

wife, sone, daughter, parents. Life becomes so difficult after one loses a family member.

just imagine, what if u lose some of your family member to such needless acts?

u may take the person to task for anything illegal, but please do not be violent, let alone k i l l i n g.

Hindusim says "Ahimsa Param Dharma". "Non violence is the greatest religion"

Let there be peace

peace Oct 01, 2015 07:23pm

very shameful...all dis happens on the name of religion and dats sad... why are we being inhuman.. slowly we are turning into animals.... its not about hindu or muslim... we sud be human first and preach our religion wid love and peace

hriday rathore Oct 01, 2015 07:48pm

@kamran 200% agree with kamran, god give them ''akal''....they all ''jaahil'' made life hell of educated and progressive people of both sides...

Asi Oct 02, 2015 03:28am

This is extremely disgusting on so many levels. 1. A man was murdered over a RUMOUR! 2.his son CRITICALLY injured 3.meat has been sent for forensic testing to ascertain if it's beef ..as far I know eating beef in India is not illegal however taking someone's life is, so then why is the meat being testing? How awful!!! 4. The victims are muslims by the sounds of their names....muslims are allowed to eat beef so why would you murder them for it? What happened to respect and tolerance for eachothers religious beliefs? Sad sad sad day for india! Shame on you!

pk Oct 02, 2015 07:28am

shameful....indeed

rehan Oct 02, 2015 09:24am

Incredible India !!!

Tariq Ahmed Oct 02, 2015 09:26am

@xoro so it is muslims fault that one if their fellow Muslim murdered by unemployed Hindu fanatic ? So what happened to Patel clan in Gujrat where BJP is ruling give us some expelnation ? Lets be real India is a third world country and these kind of inccidents are norm I personaly know many Indian Muslims came from many villages of India who does not eat meat at all due to the fact that they were prohibited in their home villages

Kaiful Arsh Oct 02, 2015 12:37pm

Indians are always hatred to Muslims , they can never accepts Muslim existence . extremely condemned :( , & shame on you Indian government, cause they don't give justice for Muslims

Sudhanshu Swami Oct 02, 2015 12:37pm

Extremely inhuman

Saad S Oct 02, 2015 12:40pm

shelter the animals, kill the humans, wow India

Dinesh Oct 02, 2015 03:01pm

This isn't the first time that a human being has been killed in the name of religion. And it won't be the last.

Sane Oct 02, 2015 04:59pm

This is insane. Was any sample of finger prints on the deceased clothes and house was sent to forensics for identifying the attackers?

Prashant Oct 02, 2015 05:19pm

As much as I condemn beef eating, it was a shameful act. Mob justice is always condemnable. I think UP should go under president's rule. All the political parties there seem to be corrupt.

Abe Oct 02, 2015 09:47pm

Really feel ashamed and defeated. Modi should take action to prove he will protect the minority. Else there is no difference between Pakistan and India (on minority)