Sikh resurgence likely, RAW tells Indian govt
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NEW DELHI: While several reports described them as cross-border militants — The Indian Express says they are the first known Lashkar-e-Taiba combat unit to have entered through the Punjab border — Monday’s armed standoff in India’s Gurdaspur border town has set off an alert over a possible Sikh upsurge.
The Hindu said on Tuesday that India’s external intelligence agency RAW had alerted the government of Sikh militant resurgence across the globe and highlighted a new bonding developing between Punjabi and Kashmiri separatists.
It said a little more than a month ago RAW sent a report to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO), detailing the resurgence of “Sikh radical organisations” across the globe.
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The report was sent on June 16 and it spoke about the activities of Sikh radical organisations in countries such as Germany, UK, France, US, Pakistan and Malaysia.
The Hindu quoted the report as saying that on June 6 in Germany, Sikh radical organisations such as Babbar Khalsa International (BKI-G) and Sikh Federation (SF-G) staged a protest in front of the Consulate General of India, Frankfurt.
“The event was attended by 8-10” people of Pakistani or AJK origin as well. “A few new Sikh families, which arrived from Portugal, were also seen participating in the protest.”
According to the RAW report, “a Kashmiri youth also spoke at length saying Kashmiris supported the demand for Khalistan…There was an increase in the number of protesters this year in comparison to last year,” said the report.
Similarly in U.K., according to the paper, radical groups under the banner of Sikh Federation held a remembrance march and freedom rally to commemorate the 31st anniversary of Operation Blue Star. Around 3,000 people attended the event. It was also attended by several British parliamentarians and also Raja Ahmad Khan, Chairman, All Parties Kashmir Coordination Committee.
One speaker called upon the Sikhs in Jammu and Kashmir to revive their efforts to secure self-determination in their respective homelands.
In the US, the RAW report suggested that a fiery woman speaker who has delivered anti-India speeches has come to notice. In San Francisco, around 60-70 people participated in anti-India protests while in other parts of California, around 6000-8000 people attended a similar meet. There have been concerns that the BKI and Khalistan Liberation Force (KLF) — both banned in India — were trying to regroup with the help of Pakistan’s ISI, The Hindu said.
Published in Dawn, July 29th, 2015
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Jul 29, 2015 07:24am
easy way to ,broom away attack.Sargoda from where the attackers started should be declared as smart city.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:33am
This is just hearsay and nonsense. Sikhs are thriving in India and overseas. The vast majority of the Sikh homeland is in Pakistan anyway especially Nankana Sahib, lahore district, Rawalpindi and the Potohar and Attock area, and the Indian Punjab only makes a quarter of the Sikh homeland. Sikhs new today homeland is Canada, as Sikhs call it Kenayda.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:35am
Way out of context? Nobody with head over his shoulder would want Khalistan ,me being a Sikh don't want Khalistan , I want to be Indian first.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:35am
Sikhs are patriotic Indians. They take pride being a part of Indian armed forces. Few disgruntled elements cannot change these facts. These elements will be taken care of without any issue.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:35am
Sikhs are peace loving people and separatist mentality folks are not even .2% and there is no resurgence for sure. Few Sikhs take part in protest rallies overseas and their number will be less than .1% of all Sikhs living in there. This is misinterpreted news.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:14am
Sikhs have long protested against India in San Francisco and I have been seeing it for over 20 years. However, their counts are far less than described in this report.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:24am
Undeniable, incontrovertible and substantial technical evidence from the GPS device recovered shows that the terrorists first fed the GPS data in a Pakistani town Sargotha (94 Km from Faislabad), had targets to kill District Magistrate, SP of Gurudaspur,India and inflict mass casualties in Indian Punjab.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:24am
Sikhs are integral part of Indian community...they are the defenders of the nation....
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Jul 29, 2015 08:32am
The real problem is that the Sikhs feel that they never got justice for the genocide of 1984....
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Jul 29, 2015 08:34am
I am Indian first... and then Sikh.
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Jul 29, 2015 08:41am
@m singh I support your comment...
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Jul 29, 2015 08:56am
it is the will of the people first, because some agree few disagree .
if majority has same mentality, then it should be considered.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:00am
@NT Sikhs are realizing quickly how important is their own homeland (Punjab) to them and the Kashmir issue which is bleeding for years can only be settled amicably if the Sikhs movement and Kashmir movement strengthen each other for a common goal. India-Pakistan dialogue will also get a balanced platform in that scenario.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:03am
Stop dividing country in the name of religion. Sikhs are patriotic Indian and even muslims are patriotic Indians, so do the other religion. A fight or hatred will give wounds, which will never heal. Choice is with people.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:05am
In today's free world no country can hold the right of masses of freedom of choice. I think freedom must be granted to liberation seeker in line with today's practices and no one should be forced to adopt a country.
Do a refron referendum instead of tall claims.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:09am
I am from Karnataka and some of my best friends are Sikhs and there isn't even a remote possibility that any of them would support any anti-Indian activity.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:09am
Recall that Lt Gen (retd) Kuldip Singh Brar of India, who had led "Operation Blue Star" 28 years ago that massacred pro-Khalistani freedom fighters from the Golden Temple was attacked by Sikhs in London.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:16am
@m singh
The real problem is that the Sikhs feel that they never got justice for the genocide of 1984....
You are absolutely right and we know that Indian minority would never be liked by certain right wing Hindu groups who are part of the government now.
To my Sikh brothers saying India first, i suggest you read history.
Even in our upper middle class neighborhood here in USA Sikhs are discriminated by other Indian groups. And sadly you can say the same thing about Pakistani. Sorry for laying out facts
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Jul 29, 2015 09:33am
We wish India all the best and hope they can fix their minorities issues.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:34am
Sikhs are most loved community than Hindu each other.
They live in our hearts & savior of Mother India.
We rather cry than fight to them.
India needs them ,India love them ,India Care them.
We equally go to Gurdwara TO WORSHIP GURUS
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Jul 29, 2015 09:45am
in Indian history the highest serving priminister is Sikh,
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Jul 29, 2015 09:57am
@ajay kumar too late for this.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:58am
As per my friend's father Sh H L Sahni, who migrated from Attok to Delhi during 1947 partition, Sikhs are none other than Khatri Hindus who have taken the vow to Sikhism to protect the community and motherland. As per the tradition of those days every Hindu family was required to place one son of their family to become a Sikh by taking that vow and accept 5 K - Kirpan, Khada, Kesh etc., in his life style. Sh H L Sahni was also supposed to take Sikhism at his age of 6 years but could not due to migration to Indian side. That is the very reason many of surnames like Singh, Sahni, Arora, etc., are common to both Hindus and Sikhs. Khalistan concept may be due to reminiscence of Maharaja Ranjit Singh's empire of Greater Punjab.
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Jul 29, 2015 09:59am
wrong news... nothing like this in india,... misleading article
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Jul 29, 2015 10:04am
@gurpreet Its clear from comments here that Khalistan movement is not popular at all even with Sikhs by making an jndependant nation you will lose all the economic benefits of India and struggle to survive and fight terror examples like Pakistan are already present to show that Partition benefitted no one.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:05am
Sikhs are model community and well integrated in India society . Yes, there may be a very small minority, who believes in this .But as of now no such fear . This is our trust . We reject such speculation.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:10am
As an Indian I believe what goes around comes around. We have a habit of poking our nose in everyone else's business. We have done so with all our neighbours. Let's face the facts. Now when it happens to us we cry foul.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:14am
@ajay kumar for the past 70 years you have been making fun of the Sikh community in movies and jokes. Making us look like fools and now you think we are the best to walk this earth. Strange turnaround isn't it?
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Jul 29, 2015 10:22am
@RAj Dear,MMS was chief architect of economic reforms of 1992 under leadership of PVN Rao ( unsung hero of congress), that catapulted India into major economy of the world.We are proud of Sikh community and they have integrated into every Indian communities across Bharat.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:24am
We love our sikh brothers and sisters with our heart and soul.They are very patriotic and hardworking and dignified.We might have made some mistakes.But it was temporary and if anything hurt you,please forgive us.You are our blood.You fought will us against invaders.Let us go hand in hand.We love you all too much.
From a Hindu sister
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Jul 29, 2015 10:28am
@gurpreet Infinite salutes for Mr Baljit singh who gave his life for Nation & People of Nation.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:29am
Find the fact here.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/GPS-sets-nail-Pak-hand-in-Punjab-terror-attack-reveal-killers-had-3-targets/articleshow/48259545.cms
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Jul 29, 2015 10:31am
Breaking counties apart solves nothing, in fact it opens up Pandora box of problems which never get solved. The future rests in unity and in non interference in the internal matters of other countries.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:31am
In India, Sikhs and Hindus reconciled after a brief period of madness. It appears that the Sikhs that left India for US, Canada and Europe, understandably with wounds, haven't... and still live in the memories of the days of conflict, even though people here moved on. Today, in India, Sikhs are celebrated for all their unique qualities. It would not be India without them.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:36am
@ajay kumar I agree with GURPREET. Now when it comes like this then you start saying that they are also equal.
Come on just go to YouTube and search Sardar Jokes. You will find unlimited videos from Bollywood movies showing Jokes for Sikh, like they are the biggest foola of this world.
You can suppress a certain community.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:37am
Greater Punjab in the making rest of the Pakistan will be lucky if these two meet again and we get rid of Islamabad, after Gwdar port this suppose to happen heard this conspiracy theory in 90's
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Jul 29, 2015 10:38am
@m singh That's the sad part. We wish the perpetrators are brought to justice.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:39am
@gurpreet
Fun making is the dirtiest thing running over/Across India.I regret for this
But My friend kindly deal this friendly non harming.
also Movies are made which describes the greatness/Glory of Sikh community.
Give some time Like nature giving to human before fully destruction.
I have been living with Sikhs since my birth there is nothing like between us
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Jul 29, 2015 10:47am
I am 25 years old. I am an Indian first and then Sikh. I have lots of Hindu and Muslim friends. New generation don't care about this political drama. We want jobs, prosperity and India is heading towards it.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:50am
@gurpreet obviously ur thinking is in wrong direction. south's are poked too for entertainment sake with jokes. have u never noted that there are some powerful Sikh lead characters too in the movies. shed the hatred man, Sikhs are the 'shaan' of india. and that 1984, it's been a long time and a mistake that most of India regrets because of a mislead leader at the time.
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Jul 29, 2015 10:51am
@ajay kumar unfortunately I do not share your sentiments. Living among Hindus I have had my share of untoward experiences. Your words will not change the nature of brahmons.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:00am
The Sikh community was born 500 years ago from the Hindu mainstram society to protect against the repressions of the Moghul rulers of that time . Even today they are intermingled in our society that few of our family members are sikhs. My own grand mother is a sikh. We cherish the same culture . They are the main force of our armed forces . All this talk is a mere speculation and a wild wish of the enemies of India.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:01am
Sourav Ganguly should apologise over is immature remarks now
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Jul 29, 2015 11:04am
All Sikh's Guru were Hindus.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:08am
Khalistan? The whole of India belongs to Sikhs and vice versa.Sikhs vs Bharat is soooooo preposterous. What's next, Hindus vs Bharat?
On a serious note.They never recieved justice for 1984. Although I was not born then, as a Hindu there is a guilt and I know that no apology will ever suffice. Members of the Nazi party are still being condemned to death and we are changing for the better so there is hope. We have not forgotten either.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:11am
@gurpreet The people who make movies make fun of everybody including themself.Please take it lightly as none of us are perfect.And I think when people don't laugh or make fun may be vile.Let us laugh out loud together.Nobody does it to hurt you.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:45am
It had tone said though, that these things would not have happened had the Indian government given justice to Sikhs for what happened in the 80s. That was a big mistake
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Jul 29, 2015 11:51am
Sikhs would have been the richest and a very powerful community if Punjabis stayed united under Pakistan as Punjab is the king maker and they owned lots of property in Punjab. No matter what, I have a deep affection to my Punjabi brothers across border.
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Jul 29, 2015 11:53am
I know this report is just another drama. But I am proud of every Indian who has commented below and shown respect and beyond all unity with Hindus. As our roots we have always been together, and I as a Hindu know that Sikhs are not involved.This is just a way to distub things across their border and we shall make sure we stay together united and peaceful.
Respect Sikhs for bringing glory and proud to country for years now!!
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Jul 29, 2015 12:01pm
The Indian Express has been misquoted, it said that the first combat unit to have entered through the Punjab border entered in 1988.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:03pm
Sikhs are the one who stopped spread of foreign forces till northern part of India. Sikhs gave their life for independence of India. Sikh regiment is the most fearsome regiment in the Indian Army. In every war they battled like real warrior with enemy and shown them their real place. I as a Sikh don't endorse this propaganda. Our Guru laid down their life for protection of this land of Hindustan. We are always there to protect our beloved motherland. Vande Matram. Dawn please publish.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:21pm
While I respect the sentiments of all communities. However, I must bring it to the notice of all that the Langar Hall of the Gurudwara in Fremont, California has large pictures of Sikh militants on display. Some local community members had opposed it earlier but it seems that Temple Administration has not taken any action.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:55pm
@Realist Partition of India benefinned me and millions like me. We have a much greater say in our affairs then we would have in a United India. We have statesmen, diplomats, officers, businessmen, educationalists in a much much larger volume today then we had before India was devided - and stand more prosperous then our Muslim families we left behind in India (Sachar Report). How ever, it did not benefit those millions who died in the independence violence which has left unadressed wounds which continue to bleed Pakistan and India.
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Jul 29, 2015 12:57pm
@Shamsher Singh Jatt Punjab should have stayed united. Sikhs would have has access to their holy sites in Pakistan and had a much larger population (20-25%) then the 2% they are in Hindustan.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:03pm
don't blame us, we never dose this type of cowardly act. No Sikh was behind this and whole plot was plotted somewhere else. This was just to havoc peace in Punjab. GPS device found from militants been cleared whole story.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:13pm
@Priya Marriage between hindus and sikhs are so common in the western countries.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:16pm
@jeel You finally summed up the story .........applause.
No need to internally suspect any body accept our international neighborhood.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:22pm
@gurpreet every community everywhere in the world has its stereotypes.Jokes on Pathans are common in Pakistan. And these jokes are actually protraying how simple n innocent are Sikhs/Pathans.We also have jokes on Marwaris or Sindhis or even UP/Bihar ka bhaiya.So need to take offence.There are enough number of movies that show Sikh Valor n sacrifice and the entire country is aware of it. By the way, I don't believe you are an Indian who is writing this - possibly a Pakistani behind it.If you are an Indian, you would have a better understanding of how things work in this country.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:27pm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/GPS-sets-nail-Pak-hand-in-Punjab-terror-attack-reveal-killers-had-3-targets/articleshow/48259545.cms
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Jul 29, 2015 01:28pm
@Zafar please stop your propaganda we Sikhs are Indian s first and punjabis later we love Kashmir and the whole Kashmir including ppl belongs to us Indians
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Jul 29, 2015 01:28pm
This is what you get for poking us in Balochistan. First sensible move from intelligence agencies in quite some time.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:34pm
Sikhs are ALWAYS resurgent. They prosper in India,and they prosper every where.
In British Colombia,Sikhs were the first community from the sub continent to settle down are are active in lumber industry and own saw mills in a big way.They own a lot of big trucking companies as well.
In California,a Sikh farmer who came in 70's and who used to work for about a $ 1 /hour is now the largest peach farmer in that state.
As,I assert,Sikhs are resurgent and prosperous the world over!:)
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Jul 29, 2015 01:38pm
@Shamsher Singh Jatt , Sardarji you are right. There are more Sardarjees in Vancouver and Toronto in Canada then even East Punjab :). My favourite is always the Sardarjees in Police uniforms in downtown Toronto with their beautiful Pagri.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:40pm
I'm first an Indian rest is later.. Above comments of our Indians enough to understand who we are first.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:42pm
While 99% of Sikh are acclaimed hardworker and 'go-getters' there is still 1% unemployed youth in Punjab who can be lured to terrorism. In this case, funds reaching J&K youth have been extended to Punjab youth. In any case, recently there has been new round of funding by uncle Sam!!
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Jul 29, 2015 01:45pm
@Asif Ali , Actually Baba Nanak said "I am neither Hindu nor am I Muslim". For Baba Nanak being a Human being first and having "Insaniyat" and caring for another Human was even more important.
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Jul 29, 2015 01:51pm
@gurpreet brother we punjabis have bigger hearts and this is not something that we will take seriously jai hind
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Jul 29, 2015 01:53pm
@gopa even in India too..
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Jul 29, 2015 01:55pm
@Priya I second your opinion
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Jul 29, 2015 01:55pm
I am Sikh and never favoured Khalistan. I love my India more than myself.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:08pm
It is time for the sub continent to come out of the "1947 Partition rut"
Time for all the countries in the sub continent to get knit together economically.
If smaller and smaller splinters come into existence, one can kiss peace and economic prosperity good bye.
India should not splinter and neither should Pakistan,right?
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Jul 29, 2015 02:14pm
@gurpreet There is no element of subservience or looking down upon in the jokes. Sikh community of India has been always known as large hearted fun-loving people. As a sikh myself, I love my country & there is not even an iota of us versus them regarding other Indians.
Anyway, we'll go bonkers living alone as a separate nation. Any society founded on religion as principle is bound to invite troubles for itself. The simple reason for it being that the relegation of non-majority religions as second class citizens.
Also, on a lighter note, there is only so much of Honey Singh I can handle :)
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Jul 29, 2015 02:16pm
@Ikjot singh adding
We are proud that we in India are united.
We proud of Sikhs.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:24pm
@JAI
JAI HIND ..Great way to go Mate.. All Indians are proud of you
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Jul 29, 2015 02:33pm
The Sikhs are indeed a very brave and proud nation with a very different form of civilization from the Hindus. They are in minority and have been constantly mistreated by the Hindu majority who uses them as their main workhorse. Their main center of religion. the Golden Temple. was most hideously and ruthlessly desecrated by the Hindu government of India, and it would certainly be dishonored again if the circumstances arose again to do so. The Sikhs are a very talented people, as is very obvious from the performance of their communities living in foreign countries. They certainly have a right to be called a separate nation and demand independence from clutches of the Hindus.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:38pm
If I was a betting man I would say that this incident was the works of Sikh freedom fighters. It does not take a genius to figure this out.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:39pm
@B.Ally
well said mate
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Jul 29, 2015 02:45pm
Every Sikh is a proud Indian first and would never turn his back towards his motherland.....they have laid their lives to protect mother India unconditionally and would continue to do so always..."Chidiya nal jo baaz ladavan , taan govind singh naam dharavan"!
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Jul 29, 2015 02:54pm
@Shamsher Singh Jatt No that is not the point at all. Khalistan is demanded as a place were Sikhs can live freely and prosper away from Indian Government control. Sant Bhinderanwala said even if we get a few villages to start that is enough. These comments by you are just an attempt to divert the situation from it's reality. At the end of the day whether it takes 1 year or 50 years Khalistan will be made and Kashmir will also be free.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:56pm
India gets stronger and better day by day. Sooner you guys realize better it would be. Learn from 1971 and do not repeat the same mistakes. On the other hand you can keep on dreaming of dividing India into pieces as been happening for past 50 years or so but in reality its only you who is suffering.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:56pm
Sikhs are found all over India , infact all over the world, they would not be satisfied with khalistan,they need entire world.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:56pm
@niju That is true and so why have they faced a genocide since 1977. Why are they not recognised as a seperate religious group and why RSS, Shiv Sena are allowed to operate in Punjab.
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Jul 29, 2015 02:58pm
Jai Khalistan. All educated Sikhs support Khalistan.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:02pm
As a Pakistani I hold no ill will against Indian's or India but I wish we could resolve issues that plagues our nations. Life is too short, live and let live in peace.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:03pm
@SRIDHAR RAGHUNATHA RAO As usual you are factually wrong and that sums up the Hindu mind which is the reason non Hindus cannot live there. There is an obsession among Hindus to try and prove that Sikhs, Buddhists and even Muslims are some how Hindus and not really a distinct religion.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:04pm
Frankly speaking the reality has always been this :
Sikhs were/are the defenders of Indian Faith [Hindu + Jain + Buddhist + Parsi + Christian + Muslims + and many others great religions]
Guru Nanak Dev JEE belong to everybody.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:07pm
@ROHIT PANDEY So on the one hand Indians say Sikhs will be at a loss economically if Khalistan is made and then agree that Sikhs are the most productive people in India, I think India will be the only loser if Khalistan is made and Made it will be.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:11pm
@Sunil Varma
The first Genocide of Sikhs in 1742 was carried out by a Hardcore Hindu of Lahore, Lakhpat Rai (belonged to Kot Lakhpat area of Lahore) and last Genocide of Sikh too was done in 1984 by a Hindu Prime minister, Indira Gandhi. These two are undeniable facts and is the part of Sikh History.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:11pm
@gopa Really what are the statistics. If you talk of the Sikh community just ask them who they prefer L K Advani, Modi, Vajpayee, Indira Gandhi, Rajiv Gandhi, Nehru, Manmohan singh, I K Gujral or Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwala, Bhai Rajoana, Prof Bhullar, Bhai Anokh Singh etc.. You will get the answer of what Sikhs really think.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:13pm
@Blue Saffron What do you mean by educated?? I am a chartered accountant myself and have family & friends who are doctors and engineers and believe me no one and I mean no one supports Khalistan movement.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:14pm
Injustice is the real cause for all trouble. The world can become a place of peace & tranquility if justice is given a chance. From east to west the real cause behind all insurgencies is injustice in all shape & kind. The world should work for a real justice system.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:19pm
Pakistan is on the horns of this dilemma of terrorism; a renowned fact. Blowing the fire may harm the face; now be it. Istead of catching the bull by horns, India has been lashing it ignoring the fact that it may turn to her and it did. What i recommend for INDO-PAK is: stop hurling liabilities againt each other and walk side by side to check assassination. Above report is giving birth to a civil war in India. Hold politicians by collars.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:30pm
i am a sikh and i want independence from india , this is how endians trolls are trolling this posts
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Jul 29, 2015 03:32pm
@m singh As a Hindu and an Indian we are ashamed of what happened in 1984 to our brothers. No amount of apologies will correct the wrong done and we sincerely ask the Sikhs to follow their religion and fotgive the ones who did the injustice to Sikhs and brought shame to India
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Jul 29, 2015 03:38pm
@Ammar, I never this name in Sikhs. Are you actually a skih? I doub't, Coz I am.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:39pm
@Raamo
Do remember what India did in 1971. Invaded Pakistan after nurturing and supporting an armed rebellion in East Pakistan. By breaking up Pakistan, India expects us to forget and turn the other cheek. India needs to give freedom to the Kashmir, unfortunately in its arrogance it continues to brutally oppress the Kashmiris right to self determination.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:45pm
I know many Sikhs and many feel they never got justice for 1984. This still hurts abd nothing is being done about it. Saying that, they are all very proud to be Indian and will not fight against it.
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Jul 29, 2015 03:53pm
I support the Khalistan that encompassed the kingdom of Raja Ranjit Singh. But however, this Khalistan should have Lahore as its capital, as it was in the times of Ranjit Singh.
Isn't that fair enough?
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Jul 29, 2015 04:08pm
You reap what you sow.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:14pm
Now all the Indians will rush forward to convince us that everything is hunky dory in India.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:14pm
I fully support State of Khalistan in India with capital at Amritsar.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:19pm
They killed Sikhs brutally in fact very brutally, my mom across the border tell me the stories and i literally have tears in my eyes....now these Hindus say sorry mates it was a mistake!
Wow so easy right?
Anyways, its up to sikhs......they are never gonna get justice from the north Indians making up the definition of patriotism for the rest of them....
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Jul 29, 2015 04:30pm
The shabby way Sikhs have been treated in India by hindus is deplorable. I dont blame the so many Sikhs on this comment board who are now openly propagating Khalistan. I admire their passion in openly fighting for their freedom.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:31pm
Good Job, India should free shiks and kashmiris from salvery
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Jul 29, 2015 04:31pm
I still remember how sikhs got grilled in the middle of streets in new dehli
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Jul 29, 2015 04:31pm
It is not surprising that Sikhs are feeling uneasy in Modi's India and reviving their legitimate demands for justice and a homeland of their own. Hindu nationalism instead of Hindustani nationalism is alienating the minorities and will eventually lead to further discord.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:33pm
I fought for Khalistan. My kids are fighting for Khalistan. Mu grand kids will fight for Khalistan. That is my promise to hindus in India.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:35pm
@Blue Saffron , no educated Sikhs lead India ( PM Manmohan Singh, Army Chief Bikram Singh and many ) . Whether educated or uneducated, All Sikhs supports India. Some miniscule number of people in UK may be on payroll of anti Indians.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:40pm
I seems cross border frnds desperate about India.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:41pm
I would be extremely careful in investing any money in India as I predict that such attacks are just the beginning of the new India. I am now looking at investing in Pakistan as IMF is projecting an eight (8%) GDP. Iran may also be a good option.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:43pm
India has been broken up four (4) times in the past. Another time wont hurt and would be nice.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:44pm
@Dipak Singh No we are not , India dragged Pakistan into their own mess....
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Jul 29, 2015 04:46pm
Folks, this all is indicative that all is not well in India. It is becoming a towering inferno of violence and communal riots. I just hope we dont another genocide like Sikhs and Gujarat et al.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:51pm
Indian Punjab CM was quick to blame Pakistan. RAW; please brief him too.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:53pm
I would strongly urge RAW to change their evil ways as their days are numbered.
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Jul 29, 2015 04:54pm
@PEEYUSH, Do you mean RAW is lying?
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Jul 29, 2015 04:57pm
Please join me in offerance of a prayer for those fighting their causes for Khalistan and Kashmir. Victory will be yours.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:10pm
Well some would like to see a divided India and we are more determined to unite the world. As they say this century belongs to India and all Indians, we are busy contributing to make this happen. Some people wants to live in past and here we want to carve out a better future for our children and restore the prestige of our motherland. Keep inspiring us to do more for our motherland. Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam is the mantra.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:11pm
Sikh Diaspora in USA is very anti-India. They feel that Sikhs are treated as 2nd class Citizens in India and discriminated against. They point to injustice done to Sikhs after the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh Bodyguards. There is strong and genuine resentment among Sikhs against Hindu rulers of India.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:11pm
Sikhs blend in so easily with Europeans especially their looks and features that it is no surprise that many Sikhs have migrated to the West. Majority of my Sikh friends do not even care about Khalistan anyway because they are so westernized. Many of the Sikhs that I know cannot even speak Punjabi anymore and have western names like bobby Gill or Jimmy Sirna.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:21pm
If the martial race Sikhs decide to have their own independent homeland, the Mother India would just disintegrate into various linguistic Motherlands. Majority of forces in India comprise Sikhs and their separation would endlessly weaken the Indian forces of every classification.
There are 169 distinct languages spoken in India with each group having its unique customs and way of life. They are all loosely bound under the Secular Constitution of India but hopelessly unhappy against the ruthless holds of the so called high-casts.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:23pm
If the Sikhs start asking for independence like Kashmiris, than I hope our Tamil people don't join in, because we have many grievances against the centre.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:34pm
@ROHIT PANDEY peace will come, when UN kashmir plebiscite is carried out and kashmir is resolved. India will lose much more by hanging on to those that don't want to be part of them. Wise up and let go, or your all will go.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:38pm
@M. Jan one sensible comment.
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Jul 29, 2015 05:56pm
non sense, it's because Hindus are not capable of defending them selfs. Became Sikhs by their own will. Hope for India is only Sikhs. If Sikhs leave then none of the modern technology will be able to save India. Consider Sikhs as separate and don't bother them to relate with Hindu. Else disintigration of India will be far sooner then expected.
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Jul 29, 2015 06:40pm
@MAT - I think u misunderstood brother.
Sikh are innocents and down to earth. But not fools.
All comedians are more intelligents than the common man.
The sardarji jokes also should be seen in this context.
Think about Man Mohan Singh. Is he a joker? Seriously....
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Jul 29, 2015 06:59pm
@Blue Saffron Please feel free to invest anywhere in the world mate. don't spread hate in here.
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Jul 29, 2015 07:39pm
I wish I knew the Sikh history in detail. Khuswant Singh's book on Sikh history would be a great place to start with?
Sikhism was a reform movement of Hindus which started in Punjab.
Sikh gurus traveled to Iraq and down south to Sri Lanka too ( if I am right!) to spread Sikhism.
The sturdy,upright,independent character of Sikhs is something to do with the breath of defiance against the tyranny of the Mughals.
Had India experienced a spread of Sikhism outside Punjab,the Sikh diligence would seen to it that there were no Terai ( forests would have turned farmlands!) in other parts of India as well?
I have seen Sikhs in small towns of Tamilnadu selling motor parts and running workshops to repair cars.and,I have seen them prospering in a big way in British Colombia...very industrious and enterprising!:)
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Jul 30, 2015 02:10am
There are many misconceptions floating around on this forum.
1. Sikhism was created to fight Mughals. No! Sikhism is just one of the many reform movements within Dharmic traditions, which was called a "panth" or a "way" within the larger context of Dharma. The area where it developed, was traditionally the border areas of India, and which has had the major influence from societies and cultures beyond India. Sikhism was a Sanatan Dharma religious tradition, also influenced by Sufi Islam. Since it was born among so called martial races, it has a warrior streak ingrained in it. Yes, it fought against tyranny and religious oppression of Mughals, but their scope was mostly limited to Punjab. The ones who fought most against mughals and finally rooted them out of power were Marathas.
In fact, no matter who ruled delhi, the Rajputs and Marathas always stayed independent. Punjab was resurrected as a non-muslim power by Sikhs, in the form of Khalsa Empire of Ranjit Singh.
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Jul 30, 2015 02:31am
Well before 1850, when Britishers conquered Princely states in subcontinent, there was no india. There were independent states. And Sikhs had their own state. It was British that knitted up India in its present form. Otherwise there always been separate independent states loosely knit together.
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Jul 30, 2015 04:09am
are they not allowed to protest against India for whatever greivance they have?? Is this now a crime??
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Jul 30, 2015 06:08am
@gurpreet Not all Indians make fun of Sikhs. Only fools do. Many of us see you as icons of bravery. Above all, you not a different community. You are us.
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Jul 30, 2015 06:19am
@Blue Saffron : And at the ripe old age of 70+ even after being wounded, he beat the living daylights out of them :)
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Jul 30, 2015 12:27pm
@Sunil Varma strongly agreed..
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Jul 30, 2015 12:59pm
@The Warrior Khalsa : I deeply appreciate you patriotism but ask you not to project yourself as a superior warriors compared to the other regiments because it is not true. All are equal.
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Jul 30, 2015 02:39pm
@gurpreet We all in India joke about each other, so what!, it is all in lighter vein, always.
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Jul 30, 2015 04:26pm
HA..A..When the WHOLE INDiA is there for SiKHS, why there should be a Khalistan creature..I am not a SIKH, but I will be there with them wherever they are!
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Jul 30, 2015 07:05pm
Conspiracy to divide and rule Sikhs vy vested interests. Evil forces have hidden agenda. Please be careful folks.
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Jul 30, 2015 08:42pm
I am a Hindu and some of my closest friends are Sikhs and Muslims. I visit Gurudwara every Sunday and have seen all religion integrated well in our indian society. Yes, jokes are made on sikhs, just like they are made on mallus (like me), madrasis, biharis, north eastern, delhiites. We are big on racism, lets face it. Not once, did I take them personally and some of them r funny if u look at them objectively. @Gurpreet this comment of urs was really really stupid on splitting bcoz there r jokes which implies that they are unwanted. Every Sikh is respected, only those who don't know the history or aren't exposed enough to cross culture make statements like this.
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Jul 31, 2015 08:46am
@Aishwarya : just a note, being a vegetarian myself, I feel privileged and go along, when my Sikh friends call me over to the Gurudwara, for any function, as they give only vegetarian food there.
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Jul 31, 2015 09:14am
For Hindus,Budhists,Sikhs and Jains, India is their natural home as well as root.And Indian Muslims,Christians who are born in India or any connection in any genaration is also Indians and India is their home too.We are all Beautiful flowers of different colours in a garden.
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Jul 31, 2015 10:22am
Love for Sikhs
Under butcher Beant Singh who was not elected Sikh boys between 1992 and 1995
Sikh boys were picked up from their houses or fields and taken blindfolded to isolated places and told to run. A burst of AK-47 rifle-fire ended their lives
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Jul 31, 2015 11:02am
So the Indians are telling us that RAW is weong . I wonder what is RAW wrong about apart from "spy pigeons" , "terrorist boats" , "spy drones" and "Mumbai Blasts"....!
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Jul 31, 2015 11:06am
@Aishwarya you forgot jokes are made on marwaris too, I am from Bikaner ! You quoted right, that many things are part of life. jokes are just jokes those are not hatred.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:49pm
Sikhism was formed to protect to protect Hindus religion and Hindus from.. we all know whom. Eldest son in each Hindu family was made a Sikh. It is very common to see Hindus and Sikhs in same family even now. Intermarriages are so common between Hindu and Sikhs.
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Jul 31, 2015 02:58pm
whoever did this.. could we focus on the evidence provided by Indian side? I mean how lame would be those who brought GPS with them to the site of attack? I mean who runs around with such evidence when doing a covert operation? Its a subcontinental thing that has deep roots in our culture, when you want to frame your enemies you do such things. that happens in local feuds as well. To make your case strong when submitting a FIR report you do such things. And that's what India is doing.
You may be right in all your blames.. but please put forward some "concrete evidence".
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Jul 31, 2015 03:19pm
@Gill me sikh too, never wanted khalistan, dont want it now
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Jul 31, 2015 09:50pm
@Ikjot singh: Very proud of you, and our sikh brothers!!!
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Aug 01, 2015 06:11am
@Av where do you think Sikhs were from ? The oldest Hindu child was made a Sikh to be a soldier against invading Arabs and Muslim rulers . Get your facts right chief.
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