Terrorist attack in India may lead to nuclear war: US experts
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WASHINGTON: A major terrorist attack in India might lead to a large-scale military assault on Pakistan, which then could lead to a nuclear war in one of the world’s most populous regions, the US Congress was told.
Two US experts on South Asian affairs — George Perkovich and Ashley Tellis — presented the doom’s day scenario before a Senate panel earlier this week.
The US Senate and the House of Representatives held a series of hearings this week to consider the Obama administration’s budget proposals for 2016.
While debating the US State Department’s proposals for foreign aid, lawmakers invited senior US officials — including Secretary of State John Kerry — and think-tank experts to explain the administration’s foreign policy.
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During one of these hearings, the two experts argued that Pakistan might use nuclear weapons against India if the latter launched a large-scale military assault in retaliation for a major terror attack from across the border.
“South Asia is the most likely place nuclear weapons could be detonated in the foreseeable future. This risk derives from the unusual dynamic of the India-Pakistan competition,” said Mr Perkovich, of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
Mr Tellis of the same institute urged the United States to use its influence to preventing a terrorist attack.
“Other than this, there is little that the United States can do to preserve deterrence stability between two asymmetrically-sized states where the gap in power promises to become even wider tomorrow than it is today,” he said.
Published in Dawn, February 28th, 2015
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Feb 28, 2015 06:41am
Terrorists can not afford it.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:50am
Talks under way with US for defence equipment
The US envoy said that some vehicles had already been delivered to Pakistan and there were plans to hand over more. Published 22 minutes ago.
And the world is worried about a nuclear war against arc rivals, India and Pakistan. Stop supplying and manufacturing weapons of mass destruction (WMD) period.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:53am
Well Neither India nor Pakistani are naive to get indulged in mutually assured destruction. It is a wishful thinking of America. However I do feel these stories will never cease to pop up.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:54am
This seems to be the most plausible outcome since both nations will not give up on their stated positions and people like Hafiz Saeed still enjoy patronage. In a macabre way, this is the only solution.
As an Indian, I will not accept any deal that does not make Kashmir a part of India. India being the bigger nation will survive the Armageddon although I might not.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:59am
Pakistan uses nuclear weapons to hide its conventional weaknesses against India.
Even Bhutan can threaten US with nuclear weapons but this will even lead to foreign sanctions.
No country will go for war , mind games will be played and We are better players.
World will see economic war in the near future and we are prepared for that.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:01am
Pakistan uses nuclear weapons to hide its conventional weaknesses against India.
Even Bhutan can threaten US with nuclear weapons but this will even lead to foreign sanctions.
No country will go for war in this number-Yuga, mind games will be played and We are better players.
World will see economic war in the near future and we are prepared for that.
Dawn, respect freedom of expression pls.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:12am
well if that Nuc attack does happen I am sure Pak Army Gen are aware of the following FACTS ( as it is NOT politicians who take charge of such decisions)
* If all 119 Pak Nuc weapons are fired towards India,60 % of India will still survive..
* If India fires ONLY 26 Nuc war head on Pakistan...less than 2% of Pakistan will survive..
Now
Who goes into STONE AGE..
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Feb 28, 2015 07:15am
I think these 'thick-tanks' really undermine the intelligence of South Asians. The two nations have been able to pull back from confrontations and are far more responsible than the white man gives them credit for.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:23am
Mr. Perkovitch also said " If Pakistan can't commit itself to working against the terrorists that have operated in India, then there's
not much we can do to reassure them, there's
probably not much we should do to reassure them, because that really is a problem," Carnegie Endowment's George Perkovitch said at a Congressional hearing on Wednesday .
In remarks that were later echoed by intelligence
chief Clapper, Perkovich said the good news is India
has no desires for any Pakistani territory or anything
in Pakistan."So 'threat' from India is only in response
to Pakistani aggression in India or terrorism in India,"
he said.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:38am
More important is how government of both countries respond in the wake of such a disaster i.e. terrorist attack... Countries should avoid risking even a small scale response to avoid falling into a trap conveniently laid out by instigators who are obviously against peace and harmony in the region... Peace and love for all regardless of caste, creed and religion…
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Feb 28, 2015 07:40am
So, to the West, people in this region are so stupid that they will try to destroy each other and stop thinking if any unfortunate incident happens.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:55am
Sadly, it is not a question of " if" but a question of " when" a terrorist attack supported and financed by the Pakistani government and that has the involvement of even Muslims living in India will happen. When the Taj Mahal massacre happened the involvement of Muslims in India was a major factor. They gave the terrorists all the support they needed. It will happene again.
But other than loud words it is now proven that the Indian government will do little. Why ? becaause then the revenues from the IT industry which is heavily involved in western economies will halt.
So relax islamic terrorist attacks will be happening. the Indian government will do nothing. And Pakistan will not have to use its nuclear weapons.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:02am
who has dropped an atomic bomb in the past.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:02am
@AXH why not. People are killing themselves every day in the name of religion.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:03am
Actually I disagree with that think tank, my think tank says it would be Russia and US would exchange nukes before any other nations at the ratio they are poking each other.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:05am
Three things will help both nations doing great for this planet. Kashmir issue should be solved on an emergency basis (with honesty, no personal pride), India should stop getting involve in terrorism through Afghanistan and Baluchistan, Pakistan should never support any terrorist group .
If national leaders of these two countries sincerely work for the benefits of a common man, we can save a lots of money from importing and manufacturing arms, instead, we can use that money for education, health social development and public welfare.
We, people of both nations, love and respect each other a lot and i hope we will have more understanding among our politicians and religious leaders as war is no answer to any thing at all.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:06am
Their is no doubt that Pakistan nuclear arms are India pacific. In the event of Indian assault Pakistan without doubt will use nukes.
It is sad situation for part of the world where talents are not in short supply. But both countries are unable to use their brains and help their poors.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:06am
Given the past track of Indian army's belligerent responses to such internal incidents, there is a possibility especially in the wake of rightist government in India. Compound that with Indian thirst for amassing weapons, this puts additional pressure on Pakistani defense movers and shakers. I hope this day never comes.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:07am
@AXH Distrust and lack of open communication lines will lead to such a situation , let their be no doubt about it.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:07am
USA should identify terrorist attack on India by who as Pakistanis are peace loving people and have no interest in terrorism
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Feb 28, 2015 08:09am
Although low probability...but not too far fetched as there are too many rage-filled heads.
Nuclear deterrence principal is based on rational decision and not on suicidal or weak political systems. Pak army is the only professional organization which can be trusted with N-Bombs.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:10am
Typical western thinking. Divide n rule.
Or make most of the money !
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Feb 28, 2015 08:16am
Apparently the only country do use nuclear weapons thinks that everyone else is as stupid as them to use those nukes
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Feb 28, 2015 08:16am
Beside few important factors that i mentioned in my earlier comments, i also think that, media on both sides should play a positive role to bring people of both countries together instead of writing or talking against each other.
Please ignore think tanks of US, They may not be friend of any one.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:17am
Its more like a proposal than a warning. A proposal for making a plot to make growing asian countries like india, china and russia indulge in a nuclear war and destroy eachother and west's dominanace on world matters remains.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:25am
Actually the attitude of present Indian government towards peace is not very healthy.....when Mr Modi is himself saying on one of the TV channels that he can crush Pakistan like he crushed Muslims in Gujarat.....what maturity do you expect from that.I believe South Asia can be a flash point just both countries need to resolve the conflicts amicably.The think tank report if not completely true, it does explain the widening rift between nations.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:31am
No two rational nations will go to war when they both have nukes at their disposal. But then, India and Pakistan do not fit in the category of "rational" nations. The differences are huge and the exacerbating factor is the narrative of religion and the primacy of zealots. Fanatics exist on both sides of the fence and all it takes is a few of them to come together on either side and we'll have an apocalypse on our hands.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:34am
Pakistan will never like to commit suicide by provoking India. So, no worries.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:39am
Terrorists do not represent 100% of Pakistanis. But when war starts, every one will be affected. People whose life is already difficult, will be even more difficult. There will be large scale problem of food, health issues, electricity, water, economy, gas, riots and many more (both countries). Terrorists which were assets for Pakistan, are now becoming liability.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:43am
@AXH ....this is what happens when two nations show their emotions openly on daily basis..others think they are stupid enough to prove their theories right and they will watch with a basket of popcorns in their hands.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:43am
Really I doubt of nuclear war between the two countries,because the India is heading towards strenghting its economy and wants good relation with all countries in the world .At this juncture It never indulge in war .Though India can sustain the expenditure but not pakistan .but the human loss will be irrepairable for both countries.Pakistan have more internal threat than India and any war of Pakistan will leads to separation of Baloochistan and Sindh provinces.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:44am
Its the Amercans themselves who are capable of bringing about this kind of havoc.
Theyve bought destruction in any country they wanted, in the name of "Assistance" or Peace.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:47am
US thinks India and Pak r kids with big toys....someone remind them...they were the only one to use nukes on innocent people in Japan.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:50am
India behaved with resilience even after Mumbai attacks...even though US unnecessarily invaded Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:50am
I doubt the sanity of that think tank!
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Feb 28, 2015 08:51am
Never know, during the crisis situations things do happen the way it RATIONALLY OUGHT TO HAPPEN. So this scenario Is real possibility.
Its important that Pakistan stops Terrorism as state policy. By now they should know that that policy is only an IRRITANT to India and huge social costs to Pakistan itself. And nothing has been gained by this policy so far and common sense dictates that nothing will in future either.
So please stop sponsoring Terrorists organisations like LeT,(in the form of JUD etc...)
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Feb 28, 2015 08:51am
What kind of stupid statement is that by these so called two experts? What is the point? Both countries are not stupid to engage in this suicide.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:51am
Looks like US is preparing to conduct a covert terrorist attack on India by providing finance and logistics to militants from Pakistan. Why would they do that? Well so they can sell more weapons to India and the perhaps to Pak. They have not been able to achieve a desired weapon sale to India in the last Obama visit. I ask my Indian fellows to not fall for this. IF you read history this is how super powers have remained super powers by dividing and ruling the world.
peace and Love from Pakistan
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Feb 28, 2015 08:52am
Fortunately, People of those countries are very educated people, and not only that at the end of the day , they are one,, one who have creates those weapons also know the consequences of using it, There is no question in my mind about the enmity of the 2 countries, but nukes will never be used,,
India Pakistan will someday become sweethearts.
lets leave these 2 nations alone.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:53am
Heartening to see Pakistanis and Indians regardless of caste, creed and religion coming together in support of sanity, love and peace in the region... Together we are 1.45 billion strong and nobody no matter how strong or vicious can drive a wedge between the bound of culture and values that we share and cherish together...
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Feb 28, 2015 08:54am
One statement tells so many implicit points. Americans now agree that Pakistan is harbouring terrorists. They also agree that Pakistan is still planning to use them in a big manner against India and India will not tolerate such act any more. And finally they agree that Pakistan will indiscriminately use nuclear weapon as they can't win war. It's good that reality is sinking in with these Americans.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:54am
30% of US economy is dependent on war and war related industry. They are the chief instigator of war for their own sake. And this is the country which first used nuclear bomb against Japan. South Asia would be much more peaceful and better off if they don't listen to any of the advise that is coming from USA
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Feb 28, 2015 08:55am
Very important statement from US. What US is thinking and planning....?? After loosing in vietnam, Afghanistan, iraq and Syria US could make India and Pakistan fight one another. There are two books by Americans which tells the inside story "Way of the knife" ...provides a stunning, inside account of the CIA's transformation after 9/11 from an intelligence agency into a global clandestine killing machine and "confessions of an economic hit man". Is America planning inside India attack ?? to start new war ...
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Feb 28, 2015 08:56am
India ,US and Israel should jointly pursue nuclear missile shield and plasma research for safety of their nations.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:56am
Pakistan is tired of pleading with India, UN,US others for plebiscite in kashmir , now I dont see any other way to resolve kashmir other than total war with use of thermonuclear wepons , either we get kashmir or we cease to exist , either option is ok for us but be warned India will suffer equal if not more damage as it has more population and larger area, instead of losing entire nation India should act pragmatically and cede kashmir for lasting peace , stability and prosperity in the region.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:58am
Increasing people to people contact is the answer. Neither Indians nor Pakistanis are bad. They are generally good friends in third countries. Perceptions on both sides are not good due to lack of actual contact. Let a movement start on both sides to facilitate easy availability of visas even for tourism to all. It will pay back with huge dividends. Nuclear or even conventional deterrence will become irrelevant.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:01am
we will not use it against each other !!! dream on and its in interest of India not to attack Pakistan and cause instability and same for Pakistan. We are doing well US should mind their own business...!!
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Feb 28, 2015 09:10am
@Joyce Markuza ...ok
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Feb 28, 2015 09:12am
Indo-Pak have a combined history over 5000 years full of humanity, love, hospitality, peace, tolerance and contentment. I have a firm believe that this region will keep on prosperous for another 5000 years. Let us not pay attention to these self styled "think tanks"...
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Feb 28, 2015 09:14am
Pakistan's penchant to use proxies to further its nuisance value, and India's loss of patience is likely to cause a nuclear flashpoint. From AQ Khan down to the Bomb lovers in Pakistan, people have threatened to bomb India. The kargil war was Pakistan's attempt to do "nuclear blackmail" - and attack India while brandishing its bomb.
Another kargil is always a possibility,especially when the pakistani military has to gain an upperhand domestically. Hence the possibility of nuclear war is real.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:14am
Know it's wishful thinking but can't discount it as a worst case scenario.
India has just announced that using small tactical weapons against India will mean it is off no first use and it reserves right to use weapons as well.
Hind sight I feel that's the only possible solution for Kasmir. Total destruction.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:18am
Typical of US to think of such a scenario, just to start something between Pakistan and India.
Have these analyst's got nothing better to do, then to dream up such Hollywood scenarios? They should actually be concerned over Korea.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:22am
I think america is "toooo" interesting in ASIA.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:22am
what propelled them to drop those bombs in japan..why do they ignore our responsibilities ...
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Feb 28, 2015 09:23am
Both India and Pakistan are sensible nations they will never do such a blunder, just due to mischief of some fanatics and paid agents of someone else,
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Feb 28, 2015 09:25am
what about the indian terrorists who are attacking pakistan every day from afghanistan and blouchistan???
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Feb 28, 2015 09:28am
@ga I agree with you 200%
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Feb 28, 2015 09:28am
such problems and isues are arising only when one govt. policy see the good terrorist and bad terrorist.why no actions are being taken till date on Mumbai attack and kargil too.if govt. not interesting everything is possible. in past india has suffered more its a fact nobody can deny.what evidencs world require.do more on terrorism and don't disturb neighbouring country.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:31am
It is surprising to see so many people thinking a nuclear war will not happen between these two acrimonious neighbors. I think the use of nuclear weapons is a very distinct possibility
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Feb 28, 2015 09:33am
Never will pak or india use nuclear weapons against each other. Never.there could be border clashes etc, but politicians and military generals of both countries will not risk their own lives and families and businesses . This is one time that they will think sane when their own skin is in the game.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:41am
This report is incomplete and the reader should read the complete report in other sites.It says it is impossible to stop India in case of another major terror attack in India emanating from pakistan and warns pakistan against using small tactical nuke weapon use against India's conventional assault as that can be bring devastation for south Asia especially pakistan as India has already declared that it will inflict unaffordable massive nuclear retaliation in case of any nuclear attack on its territory or troops as its doctrine doesn't differentiate between tactical and strategic nuclear weapon.If pakistan do that then destruction is a must and pakistan cannot expect the US reassurance to convince India for pakistans own protection and such attack will lead to pakistan being left alone or worse the total sanction on pakistan as any such situation in which if pakistan doesn't abandon the business of terrorism as it policy against India then the is nothing that the US can do for pakistan.Everyone knows that even if pakistan uses all nuclear weapons India will still survive but only few nukes from India will wipe out pakistan.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:47am
@Ishan what is there to hide. India has always had numerical supremacy. Pakistan is not bluffing about its intentions to use nuclear weapons. However I hope these just remain stories
No one wants a war
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Feb 28, 2015 09:48am
My firm belief is that one more Mumbai style attacks will lead to armed retaliation by India. Patience is quite thin in India and the public mood will force the hand of the government. When that happens, how will Pakistan react - Most probably, by using nukes on armed formations in the deserts, not on population centers. They are not that suicidal and have an element of self preservation left. World will impose crippling sanctions & that would lead to complete economic collapse in Pakistan. I differ in the end stage of this think tank analysis but the scenario is very much possible.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:48am
@Joyce Markuza and like wise for India for not attempting an adventure
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Feb 28, 2015 09:50am
Americans are more pessimist than Indian & Pakistanis.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:50am
A probable terrorist attack from Pakistan on India or from India on Pakistan could be launched by NON STATE ACTORS, hence a retaliation from either country to punish other will have harsh consequences not for the two but for the whole world. In case of a nuclear option, it will be a major attack to debilitate and destroy the opposite country totally. In case 100+ Nukes are used, it will destroy 2 Billions of world population. The common sense should be the cooperation between the two countries and unless it is a Government Sponsored terrorist act, but should not go for a hot pursuit.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:50am
I think ISIS will create havoc in pakistan supported by isi and paki military to black mail America, and America will drop a few nukes to prevent ISIS getting their hands on the nukes. India cannot do anything, they are Hindus or so called baniyas (a derogatory term) in pakistan
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Feb 28, 2015 09:54am
Dear US experts,
Please leave Indo-Pak in peace.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:57am
Previously US haD same thought for USSR
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Feb 28, 2015 09:58am
Just stop supporting terrorism, then no one will poke their nose in this region.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:59am
These 19 comments are indicative of thinking in the region. Time to replace think tank members of US. They do not understand the way people think in the subcontinent.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:02am
Our leaders Jinnah and Gandhi never promoted violence or war and we should be following their foot steps. Instead let's think positive and make the relationship better between both COUNTRIES.After all we are all humans and let's save humanity.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:03am
North Korea every treats to US but does this mean he could do something, US has developed strategy to counter the attack similar India has developed the counter of Attack from Pakistan Nuclear Attacks ,
But Definitely India Civilian does not Allow Government to use Nuclear weapon against Pak Civilian first in war, as we believe "vasudhev kutumbkam" the world is is our family and believe on "Ahinsha paramo dharma" the biggest religion is non violence, but in Baghwat Geeta suggests us if we are prevailed in war then there is not relation.
Nuclear weapon is only for threat from Pakistan as they could not fight conventional war,
and India has developed and deploying Anti Ballistic Missile system to counter such attack.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:07am
The so-called "Think Tanks" may want to "think" a little harder!
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Feb 28, 2015 10:09am
I actually don't think this is an unlikely scenario. Unlike India where the democratic govt will be the one calling the shots, in pakistan it will be the pakistan army deciding what to do. Most likely the army will stage a coup like the Musharaf era and deplete any chances of a diplomatic or political solution. This would mean, outright war will be the inly solution. But while India has agreed to a "no first use" policy on nuclear weapons, Pakistan has not. The disparity in conventional fighting capacity will ensure that Pakistan will be losing fast which leaves two options for the pak side. Try to win the war with nuclear weapons (which it wont) or lose the war and cede defeat. But given the history of defeats that the pak army has had to endure,. It may well risk the nuclear route. As Christine Fair, writes in her book, pakistan is not a security seeking States that prioritizes the security of its own people, rather an ideological state that sees people as dispensable if it helps in fulfilling its state ideology. Overall, the real question is will Pakistan eventually accept India as a regional hegemon the way they accepted China as won. But so far, Pakistan has been in denial about this, with a continued delusion that is at par with India.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:15am
It is absurd to say this. Terrorist attacks have been a regular feature in the last three decades. India can handle it without going to war.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:19am
Good to see Ind and Pak friends together bashing US on this half minded analysis. I know people from sub continent are far better peace lovers than west apart from some issues between them .
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Feb 28, 2015 10:19am
Seems they don't have better work beside thinking about doom day.. Even lot of Hollywood movies are made on this subject...I wish/hope Pakistan will not sacrifice its own citizens because of terrorists. One nuclear war means huge destruction for both countries but this will also affect the whole Asia
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Feb 28, 2015 10:20am
Wrong......If Pakistan is responsible for another terror attack in India especially with Modi at the helm , there'll be direct precision laser guided missile attacks on all Pakistani nuclear facilities and immediately a total blockade of it's sea port and destruction of all airport runways......Pakistan will have no time to organize and retaliate simply for the fact that it'll be a sudden all out attack from India.....Having said that ,the onus is on Pakistan to rein in all militants and terrorists and ensure India doesn't have another terror attack......cause the existence of Pakistan as we know it is on the line..... Foolery during the Congress era is over now....These BJP guys ain't joking this time.....
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Feb 28, 2015 10:22am
@Javed Sarfraz USA dropped nuclear bomb on Japan because they knew Japan didn't nhave nuclear capabilities
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Feb 28, 2015 10:22am
Nuclear weapons are only for deterence and not for use. If ithe deterence fails, they are useless.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:23am
Pakistan eager to resolve the burning issue of Kashmir for number of reasons and few are as follows
Sources of water for entire Pakistan are river water originated from Kashmir and second freedom of Kashmiri as a Independent nation
Pakistani are very peace lovers as our Islam teaches us Nuclear race is there as granted but Pakistan would not start nuclear war as Kashmir issue is settled once for all and water is our blood line so there is no war in the sub continent and that's what sure !
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Feb 28, 2015 10:26am
Joe@ your perception is totally wrong. 60% means 60 crore and pakistan cant lose more than 20 crore. the climate of the region does not permit any state to use nuclear war heads. If India uses it, it will hurt india back. Any how these war heads will be used one day.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:30am
good to see the comments, so we have certain points wher we (india & pakistan) can unite.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:31am
Please note the most important observation by George Perkovich and Ashley Tellis ,
"....there is little that the United States can do to preserve deterrence stability between two asymmetrically-sized states where the gap in power promises to become even wider tomorrow than it is today,”"
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Feb 28, 2015 10:32am
@nadeem qazi Here is what the implications of these kind of reports:
1) Pakistan should cease supporting any kind of terrorist activity against India. The world is no longer going to tolerate overt or covert support to terrorists by Pakistan
2) There will be continuing watch on Pakistan to make sure its nuclear assets are secured. More unstable Pakistan is, the more the world would like to impact to rest of the world
On the other hand Kashmir is a bilateral issue and Pakistan as a matured state should use diplomacy to work with India, instead of encouraging elements like Hafiz Sayeed to prop this issue.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:32am
Friends.
This is a hard reality. India cannot compromise on Kashmir and Pakistan will never do and keep supporting militancy. India will be disintegrated if she does compromise with her secular democracy ideology and Pakistan with her two nations theory ideology. With so much hate mongers and hardline kashmiri insurgency nuke war seems to be unavoidable. We are just hoping against the hope living with so many warmongers on both sides.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:33am
Kashmir is the flash point. If that issue is resolved, then Jihadis don't have any other motive to go after India. But on the other hand, there are strong accusation from Pakistan intelligence against India giving helping hand to TTP and Baluch nationals. All that can be resolved if the political leadership from both country is serious in this regard. The talk about using nuclear to wipe each other out; I can only laugh at that. Let the people of Kashmir decide their future.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:37am
Establishing good relations with your neighbour is the best form of self defense. Both the nations should follow this golden rule to save their present and future generations. No one should act arrogantly by underestimating each others power and talks should start without setting any pre conditions.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:38am
@Hafeez "Typical of US to think of such a scenario, just to start something between Pakistan and India. Have these analyst's got nothing better to do, then to dream up such Hollywood scenarios? "
Is a scenario of terrorism in India traceable to Pakistan a Hollywood scenario?
Does JuD not have many jihadi camps where Hafiz Saeed openly says that India should be the target?
Have many experts not said openly on Pakistan TV that EVEN IF Inda responds conventionally through Cold Start then Pakistani will use nuclear weapons?
Has India not said that while it has a no first use policy as far as nuclear weapons are conerned, if any nuclear eeapons are used on its land or people , it will reply aggressively?
These people are just presenting things that have been played out on Pakistani TV screens many times i.e. Pakistan does NOT believe in no first use doctrine and IS willing to use nuclear weapns in response to Cold Start. By the way the purpose of the cold start doctrine is that there will be NO conquest of Pakistan territory but a lesson to be taught to terrorists by attacking terror camps.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:38am
Thats why they say,' don't put your eggs in one basket" and what our politician are following by transferring their wealth in other parts of the world. You never know what might happen, these things are beyond the control of a common man. All we can do is plan and keep our loved ones safe.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:40am
@MG India
I disagree, US and Russia are civilised, we are stupid.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:44am
@ga agreed , agreed, Agreed
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Feb 28, 2015 10:45am
@Ahmed USA: You write about how the governments should respond in the aftermath of a terrorist attack. You don't say anything about eliminating terrorist groups, the jihadi enterprise and infrastructure. Some may characterize U.S. apprehension as over reaction, but to my mind it is very much possible. It is only a matter of time when India will respond all out militarily to a terrorist attack which will obviously escalate the conflict.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:45am
After the current dispensation in Pakistan has run the country into the ground and come to the conclusion that the country cannot be governed or saved it will go for adventurism to provoke retaliation and create opportunity to use its strategic Assets. The free rein to good terrorists is very much a part of the project, whether the citizens can snatch back Power from those who have ruined the country remains the only hope.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:46am
Actually they want to make sure that they are going to received orders from both countries. Their Weapons factories will keep earning Profit and We both India and Pakistan will keep paying for it.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:46am
Indians and Pakistanis should completely disregard and ignore this irresponsible article. Such statements from US Congress merely fuels hatred and chaos between both nations which is a lose lose situation Indo-Pak. Just ignore please... No Hate!
DAWN please post this...
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Feb 28, 2015 10:46am
though india and pakistan has in the serious arm forces ,but still remain that why india always be perhaps to pakistan ,if we peep in the history ,the front issue of kashmir no can denay india is self less country
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Feb 28, 2015 10:46am
According to wiki:
As of 2014, only two nuclear weapons have been used in the course of warfare, both times by the United States near the end of World War II.
If the super powers who built tens of thousands of these could not use one more despite the long cold war and everything else in 60 or so years, none of the remaining players like China, India, Israel or Pakistan are going to be foolish enough to use any from their comparatively tiny stockpiles. Countries boasting about their nuclear "assets" are doing so only to keep their people's minds occupied with false bravado to keep them distracted from real issues.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:48am
@joe Well to be honest, Only the north Indians are interested in occupying Kashmir which is the reason for hostilities. The south Indians, Punjab(Sikhs), china border areas and north east India really does not have any enmity with Pakistan so naturally they will not be the target of any nuclear attacks. The rest is you my friend so stop giving us statistics because I can also say that even though Pakistan wont exist, Islam will still exist. But if even 60 percent of India is nuked, very few Hindus will be left. Nuclear war is not good for anyone and you playing with statistics along with the policy of occupation of Kashmir of your state is the sole reason of problems as far as we are concerned.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:50am
It's always these experts who go on and on about how violent the indians and pakistanis are, conveniently forgetting how they themselves not so long back nearly brought the whole world to the brink of nuclear disaster in the not so recent past. I am skeptical about how seriously these "experts" ought to be taken.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:52am
@ga They are analysing a bitter fact.All govt. and leaders are never so much tolerant.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:53am
To my pakistani friends, please do not give WEST so importance. I think we both are matured nation and know our priorites except some fringe elements trying to break the harmony every now and then.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:00am
Our Pakistan have created a weapon which will hurt us more than benefits. By the time One bomb reaches to Delhi, 10 will be already on our way, targetting all of our cities including our nuclear reactors. At the end India will be able to avert a nuclear strike and Pakistan will be wiped out.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:01am
The day when the word humanity is removed from the dictionary , the war will start ,mode of war may be of any type. To my belief no such person exists on both sides of the border to eliminate this word 'HUMANITY' from the dictionary. In case if any person is hidden to act in a fashion against the norms of humanity then God can save these countries from the disasters of nuke. Think positive be positive should be the policy of international politics. Let us hope all these versions of America are concocted tales.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:09am
Rather than a terror attack on India, consider this: The event next terror attack on US or UK from Pakinstani terror groups! What would be the response? Everyone is fed up of such groups and their activities. There will definitely be a hot pursuit of these groups within Pakinstan. The Pak govt will have to stand by and watch - or else suffer the consequences of an all out attack.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:10am
The military industrial complex of US wants perpetual, permanent wars in at least some part(s) of the world to keep it running and in profit...yes 30 percent, or more, of United States GDP comes from war/armament related industry...so the catch and the game plan is very clear.
US has lost most of the wars initiated in the last 50 years or so, be it Vietnam, Afghanistan, but winning and losing is not important...winning big orders for the military industrial complex is important, keeping the US public engaged and to make them engrossed in the wars and keep them away from the local/internal problems is some other factors.
No wonder the US military budget in 2015 is $534.3 billion, but total defense spending is $786.6 billion(more than the rest of the world combined). Why? War is an industry for the united states and every citizen of the world now knew about it.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:11am
George Perkovich and Ashley Tellis have given their a valuable opinion, madness can be from Pakistan, if clashes on LOC and working boundary continues, because three conventional wars brought no results, cause of terrorism and extremism due to Palestine and Kashmir problems based on religiosity, if to be avoided then, there is sigh of relief. US is world power can play an important role to solve, these problems, lest terrorism would cause not to India but to Pakistan also where terrorism was created by Armed Forces on behest of US for Afghan war.It is high time warning given by these two intellectuals of US is not to be taken as light.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:14am
Pakistani & Indians share same ancestors and genes, both countries has same and beautiful culture, landscape, spices, traditions and customs. International forces used Mulla, Pandit and politicians to divide and create unrest in subcontinent to achieve their "strategic" goals.
And we, the inhabitants of subcontinent are also responsible.We are emotional, unreasonable and hardly use our own brain.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:17am
Anyone watching Budget?
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Feb 28, 2015 11:17am
@Javed Sarfraz . . Americans have atom-bombed Japan. They have learned something from first experience, and did not repeat it during 1948 Berlin Crisis, though motivation was very strong and chance of retaliation was NIL ( Russians first tested their bomb in 1949 ). During 1951 Korean War, their motivation was equally strong, chance of retaliation was negligible, yet they did not use it ( Russians had bombs but were far behind in delivery system ). . . Now, please tell us what did YOU learn from it before writing your comment.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:18am
These think tanks would like us to believe they are the know-alls,the rightful prophets of doom. Americans are the only ones to have inflicted nuclear devastation to mankind in Japan,and were lucky not to have faced retaliation in return.
What these experts imply here?, are they trying to dissuade terrorists?, scaring Indians?? or encouraging Pakistan to go for it??? If all at the same time, it is not too much of an expertise,it is more of supposition than possibility.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:25am
The Indian establishment, I believe, will not go for an all out war. Instead, they will slowly bleed the Pakistani economy by performing aggressive manoeuvres of their forces on their border, poking at soft spots, or decreasing water supply. When the tension builds up they will drawback their posturing. The effect of this on the Pakistani economy will be huge. But I believe this will not lead to a nuclear war.
The authors did mention the difference between the countries (vis a vis economy, army, etc) will only get magnified in the near future. The Indians know this and are probably already bleeding their neighbor's military and economy in ways we may not even know.
This is a game Pakistan is not built to win. Its better for them to tone down and compete on something else.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:28am
@joe ...Do you really think that India will be left with something after getting 119 nukes from Pakistan? By basic estimates the Pak nuclear arsenal is enough to destroy in total the incredible India about half a dozen times. Still do you think it is worth it? India has to be very careful with its behavior being the major potential loser.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:29am
Is US pavinig the way for a neculear war between the two arch rivals?
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Feb 28, 2015 11:33am
US is just lieing every time and our puppet media trying to pursue their propaganda
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Feb 28, 2015 11:38am
That's exactly the reason india will never attack thanks for warning india america we couldn't have said it any better
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Feb 28, 2015 11:39am
@Jallal This must be the joke of the day.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:40am
@zak U living in America want a nuclear confrontation between India and Pakistan so that ur ego can be satisfied?
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Feb 28, 2015 11:45am
Then they should do something to stop indian supported terrorist attacks in Pakistan every other week otherwise it will be very difficult for pakistan not to retaliate for long.
Indian security advisor already accepted his country's support to taliban against pakistan.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:46am
@Mohit Sharma I agree with you. Nobody wants a war
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Feb 28, 2015 11:51am
@habibullah Which issue are asking for? There is no issues there in Kashmir, update your knowledge and read same news paper so, you get answer of your myth...!
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Feb 28, 2015 11:56am
I hope we do not end up like this. Both countries have great noble and wise common people integrated into society.
Pakistan has always taken on India without nukes being 5 times smaller. So nukes are not so easily preferable.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:02pm
@Ram Shrikant Please can you explain how does Pakistan benefit from an attack of any kind on India?
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Feb 28, 2015 12:05pm
@sadam Gurmani Could you please share us the link where he says so...because being an Indian I would like to see this where Mr. Modi has told such absurd thing...
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Feb 28, 2015 12:09pm
USA is in fact indirectly persuading the Indians to open an attack on Pakistan in case of any terrorist orient incident is taken place in India. This style of game was previously played by the Americans when they encouraged Saddam Hussain of Iraq to invade tinny state of Kuwait and the the arm industrial sale of America and west had no bounds. America is market hungry country and remain always in hunt for market for the sale of its arms and for that purpose intentionally hot-spots in tension zone of the world are ignited through policy statements and other tricks.
We should keep in mind that India has high risk of terror attack from its inside troubles such as troubles of Asam and others and there is least possibility of terror attack from Pakistan side because Pakistan army is already annihilating the terrorist from zarb-e-azb operation and the terror groups from Pakistan side are not strong enough now to assault on India. Indian and Pakistan governments and army should read the nefarious message between the lines being conveyed by the hungry Americans and before opening any armed assault upon each other must understand the ground realities. There is every possibility that the American inspired terror attack of Indian soil be in the making; you can expect any mean thing from Americans.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:12pm
This is what US Congress desires but only if wishes were horses.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:13pm
@nadeem qazi Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP issue should be solved on an emergency basis, Pakistan should give Freedom to Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:17pm
It is the Personal opinion of 2 US STATESMAN , US always interested in INDIAN & PAKISTAN should never have cordial relation .
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Feb 28, 2015 12:17pm
@zak We want plebiscite in Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP to support their Freedom Struggle, now I dont see any other way to resolve Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP other than total war with use of thermonuclear wepons , either Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP will be Free from Urdu speaking Pakistan or we cease to exist , either option is ok for us.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:20pm
@joe, ok genius, how and where did you get those "FACTS" from? Both India and Pakistan have enough nuclear weapons to wipe out each other multiple times. There will be no winners, only MAD (mutually assured destruction). 119 or so nuclear weapons are enough to destroy half of the world. So wake up and smell the curry.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:24pm
Pakistan can't afford anymore insurgency or terrorist attack
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Feb 28, 2015 12:25pm
Americans are very naive people. They believe whatsoever Indian tell rather ''TEACH" or "FEED" them. What ever was said by CIA's Clapsper or today by Perkovich and other US analysts is nothing new but to put pressure on Pakistan wrapped in threats. It is the result of Obama-Modi nuclear deal. Both nations i.e. Pakistan and India have nukes.
The presumption by Americans just nothing but any thing else. The so-called 'TERROR' attack is brain child of RAW . If S really wants peace in the region it should advise India to desist from funding / arming Baloch insurgency and staging the 'TERROR BOAT' like fake encounters. It should implement the UN Resolution on Kashmir.
Gen.Raheel has represented the sentiments of Pakistani nation by saying that any unprovoked aggression will be returned in same way.
AMERICANS and others including INDIA must remember our nuclear asset are not for keeping just as SHOW PIECE.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:29pm
This think tank should know the South asian culture first.
It is common in asian villages to see the skirmshes between the brothers on various issues. But they wont destroy each other. In fact they pat each other on their accomplishments and grieve on their sorrows together.
This will continue till pakistan gets fund from outside world. The moment it stops, brothers will know, how to live together.
Does pakistan is a big threat or South korea is the big threat? Think tank should think...
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Feb 28, 2015 12:34pm
India is just trying to show the world that if ay attack happens in India, Pak is at fault, Cant an attack happen in India without Pak being involved, they do have over a dozen freedom movemennts going on, I think the Modi government is planning an attack and looking to blame Pak. One warning to India, this is not 2008, when you blamed the Mumbai attack on Pak, we have Raheel Sharif in charge and he is more then capable of giving a response, anyway Pak at the moment is already fighting India in the Tribal area.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:35pm
@zak All of Kashmir will be destroyed with that action. I guess Kashmir will be very happy with your proposal. This does not sound any different from suicide bomber mentality.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:37pm
@sadam Gurmani when did he say that........ No one heard....
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Feb 28, 2015 12:37pm
The west up its dirty tricks again they want india and pakistan not to like each other. .its time India and pakistan tell the west to stay away from us..pakistan and india love each other ..go away usa..
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Feb 28, 2015 12:39pm
Yes war is the game west play and watch too .
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Feb 28, 2015 12:43pm
@SEAsian how can you talk about hafiz saeed when you didn,t give access to pakistani govt to ajmal qisab? what you did with samjhota express? your own army personal exposed everything?
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Feb 28, 2015 12:43pm
@Nikunj , We all wish and pray that such a thing never happens, but terrorists are a threat to both countries. It is in India's interest to support Pakistan defence forces to crush the terrorists once and for all.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:46pm
@joe May God bless you with wisdom and sane mind.How on earth people like you are living who support the idea of eliminating 40% indian and 98% pakisnis? what will you feel if your mom dad bother and sister dead in war and you are only survivor in war? come on INDIANs . its age of economic war not nuclear war
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Feb 28, 2015 12:50pm
Why cant USA sees Indian aggression in Baluchistan, always pointing finger towards Pakistan. Pakistan is a sovereign state and would defend itself what may it takes. If USA has so much concerned about the war between Pakistan and India. USA should honestly without siding with any one should help to solve all the issues between these two country specially Kashmir issue according to the UNO resolution. Otherwise with Chinese support, it will be a destruction of India.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:52pm
@zak - India won't cede in an inch of land. Death is certain, we aren't afraid of it. We are sane enough not to push that button first, but if pak does that then there won't be any choice.
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Feb 28, 2015 12:54pm
@Hashim Khan which belligerent response of Indian Army are you talking about? India didn't kill a single soul after Mumbai. India did NOT cross the LOC during Kargil. India did not retaliate after Parliament attack. India did not mistreat a single prisoner of war among the 90000 Pakistani PoWs during Bangladesh liberation war. India did not force Pakistan to give up Pakistan Occupied Kashmir even after Pakistan Armed forces had surrendered in 71. We Indians give strong statements - which any responsible power must do. But what belligerent action have you seen?
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Feb 28, 2015 12:57pm
This is a warning from the so called "expert" about an "engineered" terrorist attack in India to create grounds for removing the world's largest slum, the place called "subcontinent" that holds more than a quarter of the entire humanity on this planet. The sub-grade unwanted humanity !
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Feb 28, 2015 12:59pm
So finally India's defence budget is out ... 12% hike in defence budget ... Now it stands on Rs 2.47 lakh crore... nways any idea about Pakistan's total budget?
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Feb 28, 2015 01:01pm
Though such reports are engineered, nonetheless, Pakistan shall not initiate such a deadly move unless misguided and manipulated by the West and enraged by India…though the perception of terrorist activities happening in India are pre-assumed act of blaming Pakistan. It is the ripened time for both countries to resorting to the negotiations table. The fact is that after America leaving Afghanistan the sentiments of blurred futuristic role of India has driven the situation to the arena of uncertainty, where is war of grabbing powerful role in controlling the vast areas of Afghanistan, naturally, India is feeling that it has been left as abandoned child, the strayed status of India in playing dynamic role in handling the territorial affairs has ushered India on the verge of waging self-proclaim allegations of state sponsored terrorism activities in India. Such provoking actions shall be handed down with befitting response to safeguard the motherland from the evil eyes of the foe.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:06pm
@Sivanesan - Yeh right. The south asian culture, where at the time of partition, we had killed millions of innocents. butchered them in the streets. Is that the same south asian culture you are talking about?
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Feb 28, 2015 01:09pm
Pakistan and India must agree not to fall victim to the "Think-Tank" prodding to do what suits them and no collateral damage is of any value for them in promoting their "people's interests" as they shamelessly talk after every nefarious happening they plan and execute with covert tactical hands.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:10pm
US think tanks (UTT) are promulgating a nuclear war ... as if it will be a new video game.
UTT is inciting and provoking both countries for what is beyond reality ... inciting or abetting for a terror activity OR a provoked war ... such intentions fall within jurisdiction of taking the presumed-culprits to court, as per USA terror law. why wait then ? investigate and instigate them as to why and how they can release such a press statement. if they have some facts bring them to light else stay behind bars for putting 1.5 billion people at risk by such irresponsible statement or comment, whatever it was.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:11pm
@Waqar you are the voice of sanity and wisdom. I wish there were more such people on both sides.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:13pm
This is pretty much a slap on Pakistan and India's face that how dumb US thinks we are.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:17pm
Insane decision by some General's, who were hidden their wealth in Europe, can decide the existence of the land of pure. Impact on climate will affect all weather friend china and middle east too. It is not Kargil to take adventurism. Second strike will be severe and imminent.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:19pm
This analysis assumes Pakistani military leadership considering ordinary Pakistani people as cannon fodder in their quest for regional hegemony.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:21pm
So basically what the article is saying is that India is not a stable country and will use any excuse to start a war. Have the Americans ever viewed it from Pakistan's point of view? How many times after terror attacks against Pakistan could Pakistan have triggered full scale war against India.
A rather one sided attempt in my opinion and shows the Americans are no real friends of Pakistan .
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Feb 28, 2015 01:22pm
@Ahmed USA : you can't have cake and eat it too. India should not fall for such empty threats and should destroy terrorist camps aka Israel.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:33pm
@Zak,
As such the think tank has made a dumb remark, thinking the intelligence levels of the two countries are poor. Pl. don't make dumber comments and validate what they have said.
Only suicidal minds will argue on the line you have adopted.
Peace, and enjoy the weekend !!
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Feb 28, 2015 01:46pm
@Ali : remember "Direct Action"
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Feb 28, 2015 01:52pm
People of South Asia should not even think about this very dangerous word NUKE.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:55pm
@joe Even one bombs nuclear radiation can travel to nearby regions and destroy life there as well. So choose your words carefully when you start to indulge in who will win the war debate.
As far as pakistan is concerned, india should stop interfering in Pakistan's economic progress such that pakistan doesnt start a counter in the form of interfering in indian internal stability issues.
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Feb 28, 2015 01:59pm
we should not thing negative regarding our future in sub continent but if that unfortunate nuclear war will happen in the sub continent then nearly all cities will be wiped out of the subcontinent and in India almost all Muslims are living in cities so it will create a precarious war situations for Pakistani war machines . The Muslims in India will prove a credible deterrence against the Pakistan's nuclear Hawks .
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Feb 28, 2015 02:03pm
Most Indians who are writing their comments are either innocent or ignorant. The destruction caused by nuclear attack, whether it kills 1% or 100%, is much more devastating than expressing their emotion. I hope it will never happen because it will be the end of the civilization in the region.
Kashmir issue must be resolved as per the aspiration of the people who are living there.
You can't force someone to love you, the Indian government knows that they are just buying time as there is no future of Kashmir which is part of India.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:04pm
Pakistan and India need to clear their differences now.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:06pm
I read this news a week before on the Indian media and BBC...
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Feb 28, 2015 02:22pm
India has signed no first use pact....so its for pakistan.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:26pm
The real danger to the world peace comes from the US Think Tanks viz. War on terror, destruction in Iraq, Syria, Libya and other countries. The world peace will be better served if these Think Tanks, devoid of any thought, are ignored.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:30pm
@Ravindra Sharma, During both world wars Chritians killed Christians. In war everything is fair. Better even don't talk about Nuclear.
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Feb 28, 2015 02:35pm
@Faisal ......Kashmir for India is not about the people living in Kashmir because the demography of that state varies...Like ot had millions of Hindu pandits who were driven away....For India it's about land and land only...The current inhabitants mostly have come from across the borders and need to be driven back....
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Feb 28, 2015 02:39pm
Trust me , you pakistanis only beat us in cricket and hockey , else we are not match for you . Now missiles and anti missiles and nukes are all about technology , please see the difference , we are at Mars and you cannot fight us with stolen weapons
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Feb 28, 2015 02:52pm
Only one solution of our entire problems is let us work for greater interest in this area by merging the both country in one country like Germany (whatever name we can give) (i.e. one current, one country, one army ).
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Feb 28, 2015 03:09pm
Are these US "experts" the same who told us there are WMD in Iraq.? In that case I shouldn't worry too much.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:14pm
@Jallal ................."USA should identify terrorist attack on India by who as Pakistanis are peace loving people and have no interest in terrorism"
Since when??
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Feb 28, 2015 03:17pm
@zak So be it.It is better to die once than die everyday.If I am to decide I will invite you to war,with all the nuclear bombs you have, borrow,buy and steal.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:19pm
@sadam Gurmani I've no idea where you get that ''Modi said'' stuff, but I would agree with media comment. Pakistan and India have stupidest media any country can have. Especially the one in Pakistan, I've been to India and what our media tells us about it and what actually happens there are not even remotely same things.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:21pm
Scare mongers are always advocating nuclear war in south asia for the vested interests.ar war. India and pakistan reads each other very well and their proxies are well known to the world. Now it is the responsibility of the world powers to resolve the outstanding disputes among these two nations inorder to avoid nucle
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Feb 28, 2015 03:24pm
Neither India nor Pakistan is stupid enough to cross that line, especially when single city like Karachi produces 48% of our economic output and no one needs to recite how important a city like Mumbai is to India. I really don't think loss of these cities is something tolerable to either of these countries and both of which are on direct fire line of each other.
If anything, as a Pakistani, if I'm to commit that kind of suicide, I might as well go after US rather than India.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:31pm
@joe both
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Feb 28, 2015 03:37pm
Pakistan will not make the mistake of using nuke against India. It will be the worst wartime mistake in the known history of mankind.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:53pm
@Nikunj Hey Nikunj in case of a nuclear war pakistans destuction is assured but India will survive. India has already communicated to Pakistan list of 100 personnel in Army Navy and Airforce and ISI who are responsible for taking a decision to launch nuclear strike in India. It has said these people and thier families will be hunted down no mater where they stay after the war may be in Tora Bora or Saudi Arabia and extreminated. Its only becuase of this that a nuclear war has been prevented so far.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:56pm
@M. Mushtaq Ahmed I think it is OK. After a nuclear exchange, you can justifiably claim that you have absolutely no poor people.
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Feb 28, 2015 03:58pm
@Jallal Ah!!! So it is the US that will do the policing. But the "peace loving" pakistanis can't police their own.
Why don't you surrender your country to the US. Anyway they do run your Police. Look at how they cleaned out someone out of Abottabad.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:00pm
India is not stupid to launch a war against Pakistan which will cost India own existence regardless whatever is the pretext, e.g so called terrorism or false flag.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:06pm
@sadam Gurmani
keep it up, we are always listening..
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Feb 28, 2015 04:07pm
@joe your analogy is quite laughable. nuclear war are not fought to make every inche of enemy state radio active wastland instead its population center/economic centers/power and military centers are nuked to make the state dysfunctional. Pakistan is not concerned about below poverty line Indians living in rural India. Pakistan got enough fire power to make India collapse as a state in any nuke exchange.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:10pm
World hv already seen two world wars,their results on particular country and life of peoples,the effect of little boy and fat man.
I think now no countries have guts to use nueclear bombs in war..before use kindly contact japan,Germany and their friends countries.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:12pm
If Pakistan didn't go to war with India with such blatant Indian act of terrorism against Pakistani children in peshawar school, what make these so called think tanks to believe India will do the same if such event happen in India?
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Feb 28, 2015 04:12pm
so the summary of this analysis is don't do something stupid to both sides. The calibre of leadership on both sides of the border need to have this reinforced, as the calibre of our leaders is poor.
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Feb 28, 2015 04:46pm
India have the capability to survive such a war as delhi have nuclear deterence tech. But Pak will be finished. India is so superior either in conventional war or in nuclear war...
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Feb 28, 2015 04:53pm
@zak i think you are student of pak madressa
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Feb 28, 2015 04:56pm
US assurance of terror attack is alarming. Please put minds, hearts, and resources together to avoid, deter and repel the terror attack.
Super power has super resources, super intelligence and super intentions!
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Feb 28, 2015 05:12pm
this is good sign .all pending matters must be finished for all
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Feb 28, 2015 05:12pm
@zak Zak we also tired of unilateral demand of Pakistan of plebiscite without knowing the fact that they should vacate POK first to hold any plebiscite for entire Kashmir region. Nuclear war will resolve the menace created by Pakistan.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:18pm
@joe. Amazing deduction. How did you reach this conclusion? Are we to just believe that Joe has written so it must be true. Next time use facts to bolster your arguments.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:19pm
@joe
joe does.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:21pm
It is not possible because of the hard fact in the sub continent facing now ? The fact is that Pakistani nuclear bombs will destroy HINDU Muslims alike while indian atom bombs will kill only Muslims ? Theses facts are not known by Americans ? Indian think tank are assured of this fact and it will never happen .
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Feb 28, 2015 05:22pm
@Kalandar Save us from American analyses
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Feb 28, 2015 05:23pm
@amin Nepal is another Hindu country so dont worry about hindu's existence.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:35pm
@Sudhanshu Swami .... and they will be responsible for the complete destruction of Pakistan. A day will come when Pakistan will ask India to make Pakistan free from the clutches of Terrorism.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:41pm
Pakistan will protect itself by any means necessary. Let the world be aware of this fact.
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Feb 28, 2015 05:56pm
The great epic Mahabaratha does predict a nuclear holocaust! what ever shall be will be.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:02pm
This scenario that US paints is of their own 'psyche', look who used them in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
This their subtle way to instill their wishful thinking in the minds of both Pakistani and Indians, we may be mad but not that mad!
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Feb 28, 2015 06:03pm
@habibullah Better learn how to write in English.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:04pm
@zak .. Even Pakistan can forget Kashmir for lasting peace!
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Feb 28, 2015 06:11pm
US is the only country in the world, which has used two nuclear bomb against unaarmed civilians. They should know the rest of the world is not that irresponsible.
These arguments are used to hide their
past.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:11pm
US is the only country in the world, which has used two nuclear bomb against unaarmed civilians. They should know the rest of the world is not that irresponsible.
These arguments are used to hide their
past.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:11pm
US is the only country in the world, which has used two nuclear bomb against unaarmed civilians. They should know the rest of the world is not that irresponsible.
These arguments are used to hide their
past.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:15pm
@Nikunj US will be the only beneficial in the whole scenario
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Feb 28, 2015 06:27pm
I don't think Indian leadership is stupid. They know India has more to lose.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:30pm
@Vectra If Nukes are used India will be destroyed along with us remember that and get it into you thick skull ! there will be no winners.!!
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Feb 28, 2015 06:35pm
it is der old policy to ignite or create tense betwen the two nation nthng else
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Feb 28, 2015 06:40pm
Pakistan's support to LeT will likely be an irritant: US Intelligence Director BUT Modi's BJP support for Hindu extremists is not a problem.....no matter they burn the Christians, kill the Muslims or carryout Sikh genocide. What a policy. This is likely to result similar to something which we presently are witnessing in Middle East.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:57pm
@sadam Gurmani When did modi said that? I don't know what pakistanis watch on TV? Is this the low IQ inbreeding talking?
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Feb 28, 2015 06:59pm
A terrorist attack in INDIA, how about terrorist attackS in Pakistan.. These so called experts have swollowed the indian propaganda Line , hook and sinker. India just upped the ante a notch more. Look at their latest budge. I bet a lot of it will end up in the US.
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Feb 28, 2015 06:59pm
This is a possibility for sure...hope the sanity prevails. But in case of a nuclear war, what will be left of Pakistan?
Is Pakistan ready for total annihilation?
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Feb 28, 2015 07:00pm
That is exactly what the terrorists want. They will do all they can to repeat Mumbai style attack in even more deadlier manner. I wouldn't rule out bio, chemical or even dirty bomb attack by terrorists. In retaliation India can destroy Pakistan 10 times and Pakistan can destroy India once with their nukes. End result would be same. Back to Indus valley civilization (or worse)
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Feb 28, 2015 07:13pm
@zak thermonuclear war!! lol survive the economic burn down... before you could even think about... war... made my day buddy... heard you were ready to grass but won't let india have kashmir !!
start eating grass already future seems to be grass on the table instead of bread
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Feb 28, 2015 07:14pm
Projected Population after Nuclear War.
Pakistan , 180 -180 =00 Million
India, 1250-180 = 1070 Million.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:21pm
The Indians can not dare to attack on Pakistan and if does then will be end of game for them Inshaallah, because we know how to defend our mother land. We will support our army and fight shoulder to shoulder along our brave army. All Pakistani nation are brave no matter how much they play games against us and we know how to handle those terrorists as well as our enemy.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:25pm
what about indians are doing in balochistan and fata and APS attack which could leads to nuke attack as well?Kashmir itself a flashpoint and could be avoided a nuke attack if resolved peacefully.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:25pm
There is no socalled race for "military supremacy", not with Pakistan. Its nothing but insult. Yes, India must prepare and be ready for a war with China. China can overpower us, in current scenario not Pakistan. Pakistan cannot be suicidal.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:31pm
Feeling
Us a mad country..when they hav no issue they work on war only.
Us feel indo pak people are fool
Dear US
Ind-pak are not ur puppets
Specialy not india
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Feb 28, 2015 07:33pm
Ind-pak are not US who drop in nagasaki
Dear us we both countries know the human values better than ur business minded n ur divide n rule police..
Thanku for making such foolish statements :)
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Feb 28, 2015 07:34pm
@M. Mushtaq Ahmed That wud be suicide, if Pak use nucs
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Feb 28, 2015 07:36pm
Both George Perkovich and Ashley Tellis (Indian Native) are Indian supported so called experts. I will not pay much heed to either their scholarship or comments which designed to further Indian interest and mislead the US media and congress!
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Feb 28, 2015 07:40pm
They also mentioned that, it will be the end of Pakistan.
How come this is not included.
Not other country in world other than Pakistan is so loose with nuclear option. Suppose, you are ignorant about the catastrophe it can inflict. Suppose, when Pakistan decided launch a nuclear missile, rest of the world is going to sit around and watch? No, there will be such heavy bombardment of Pakistan, not by India but by rest of the world powers. Even your all wether friend, China will launch for such a callous action by Pakistan.
Nuclear weapons are to be kept in a show case and never to be used, modern world will not allow anyone to launch a nuclear powered weapon of any kind. It is like fine china in a show case, when the show case open and tilted, everything in it breaks,
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Feb 28, 2015 07:42pm
@nadeem qazi very very well said dear...a true analysis
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Feb 28, 2015 07:50pm
@san
How is freeing India from Naxalite movement going on?
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Feb 28, 2015 07:54pm
HAHA. Initiation of making case strong against pakistan to de nuclearise it but we are a strong nation. Long Live Pakistan
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Feb 28, 2015 07:55pm
How about resolving the core issue of Kashmir...
well US would not want India & Pakistan to get that comfortable.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:55pm
@SEAsian Resolve Kashmir as per UN resolutions and people like Hafiz Saeed will disappear.
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Feb 28, 2015 07:57pm
India tried for the last time to scare Pakistan at the time of attack on their parliament, it didn't work. General Musharraf summed it all up in one sentence; Koi jung wung naheen ho ne ja rahee hai. Imbalance of power is the real reason for war, Pakistan's nuclear weapons have removed that reason. Modi is crazy not stupid.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:26pm
@Joyce Markuza
and same goes for India
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Feb 28, 2015 08:28pm
All the major Indian subcontinent problem can only be solved if all the people of the subcontinent are involved.
On all issues including that of Kashmir and Baluchistan, there should be subcontinent wide referendum. The issue of partition of the subcontinent can be similarly revisited.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:30pm
Why are all these racist indians reading and commenting on a Pakistani newspaper if you don't have anything helpful or nice to comment, don't comment and start stupid fights.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:40pm
US can do more than pressing Pakistan which can have some effect until a real sovereign leadership of PTI comes to power. If US is really serious in preventing a nuclear show down in South Asia then it must press India as well for not conspiring to destabilize Pakistan. Arming Pakistani forces to an extent that they could pushback indian aggression with conventional weapons would be the only effective way to stop any such conflict.
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Feb 28, 2015 08:40pm
@joe Both of you
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Feb 28, 2015 08:44pm
@joe
Pakistan will be ready to use nukes if pushed but India will not. It's not a number game. You only use the nukes when you are not afraid of your own destruction
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Feb 28, 2015 08:54pm
That's absurd. Both countries should be smart enough to do that. Sanctions is the new weapon. Has Russia yet nuked USA. P These 'think-tanks' use quite far-fetched ideologies.
Nuclear-exchange didn't even take place during Kargil
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Feb 28, 2015 09:06pm
Ha ha ha
Let's do it
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Feb 28, 2015 09:08pm
And the biggest terrorist in the world who themselves uses a nuclear bomb now thinks that all other are stupid enough to use atomic nukes. Pakistan and indian governments are mature enough and on a right track of establishing their economy. So a nuclear war will never be an option for both countries.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:10pm
@Raghu I agree that both sides should promote peace, but that goes for India too to stop interfering in Balochistan through the Afghan border, and for both countries, be it India, or Pakistan to support and help implement the UN resolutions on Kashmir.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:10pm
I m Indian and praying for a nuclear war. It shouldn't be avoided where it more harmful not to have a war.
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History tells that Pakistan need a thrashing every 15 years.
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This time no more Pakistan at whatever cost.
Hope they will publish
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Feb 28, 2015 09:10pm
Why cant India and Pakistan form a joint administration of Kashmir or if that fails why cant they just partition Kashmir 50:50?
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Feb 28, 2015 09:13pm
@saad yeah. You are strong nation, its only that you dont have petrol, gas, food,skills,wisdom and a strong urge to run away from battle fields
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Feb 28, 2015 09:16pm
This is a ploy by US to dispose their 2nd quality weapons to pakistan. Pakistani friends, beware of US divide and rule.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:21pm
Kashmir problem can only be solved with a decisive victory in the next India Pakistan war; otherwise it will remain unsolved.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:23pm
As Indians we need to accept this fact, the nuclear war is always an possibility. We have to prepare for it. Atleast after this nuclear war out future generations will live in peace.
Why am saying is ignoring the fact never resolve it, we need accept it and ready for it...
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..I am just saying
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Feb 28, 2015 09:25pm
@Karan - Mumbai very true, and the Japanese generations continue to suffer from the after effects of radiation and American atrocities.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:38pm
I think Pakistan should surrender all its nuke to India and India should in turn, give full assistance to Pakistan in its economic and social progress
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Feb 28, 2015 09:40pm
A weak country like Pakistan shouldn't have these weapons in first place. Terrorists can have an easy access to these. And will be suicidal for Indian subcontinent
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Feb 28, 2015 09:48pm
Why do westerners think they are the only responsible and knowledgeable beings on this planet? They better recall that US is the only country to have exercised nuclear option during a war, and with catastrophic consequences.
Sure, India and Pakistan have our differences. But leadership in both countries have demonstrated sufficient restraint even during the testing times.
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Feb 28, 2015 09:53pm
This is exactly why pakistan has to be disarmed. It's a threat to the civilised world
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Feb 28, 2015 09:56pm
@ jj
These vehicles are not wepons of mass destruction. You Indians cannot tolerate that Pakistan gets even Toyota vehicles for her defense while Indian government is keep on shoping lethal weopons where they can get.
Moral of this story is India stop dreaming about conquering Pakistan and let the the Kashmiris have their right of Indepnedence as promised by India in SC in 19
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Feb 28, 2015 10:03pm
Just an attempt to divert attention of more pressing issues.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:04pm
@sadam Gurmani Please share the video link. I know you can't share one as there is none. It seems you like living in your la-la land
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Feb 28, 2015 10:13pm
@Taimoor KhanIf Pakistan didn't go to war with India with such blatant Indian act of terrorism against Pakistani children in peshawar school, what make these so called think tanks to believe India will do the same if such event happen in India?"
Every mention of aps makes me cry. Dil tau chahta hai ......
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Feb 28, 2015 10:20pm
The Big Bully is getting over excited and overly sensational, describing an unlikely hypothetical situation, whose sole interest is to paint Pakistan as the bad boy.
It is these eccentric neocons of the Big a Bully who exaggerate world would be scenarios, without considering, the fall out effects.
These analysts and policy makers are degenerates of society.
Shun them for their idiocracy.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:27pm
Does US perceive Pakistan to be so dumb to commit such a harakiri and get erased from the world map ??
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Feb 28, 2015 10:27pm
The difference between Pakistan and India would be like that of North Korea and South Korea.. Potentially Pakistan being a lost worst off than north. It is the responsibility of both India and Pakistan to realize hatred , animosity , arms race gives nothing to a half a billion people living on both sides of border . Pakistan and India can live in peace side by side as neighbors as out agenda is not that of USA or Russia to seek global power. Our agenda should be trade , peace and prosperity for people living on both sides of the border. Let's not our enemies destroy our selfs. WE Should learn from our history!!!
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Feb 28, 2015 10:27pm
We as Indian are not worried of Nuclear war. and will let Pakistan hide behind the Nuclear weapons and spread terrorism in India.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:29pm
Listen you thick Americans. India and Pakistan may not like each other but they are not so dumb as your statement to obliterate each other. USA is the only country to deploy nukes and possibly most likely to again too.
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Feb 28, 2015 10:30pm
US feeds such stories to to keep close chech on both Pakistan and India. Soon both will realise the need to be good neighbours like Germany and rest of the world today thus ensuring no interfearance in internal matters of both Pakistan and India .Common sense will prevail and this does bother the interfearing nature of US...
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Feb 28, 2015 10:40pm
R we or are we not going to have an all out nuclear war and if so when
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Feb 28, 2015 10:47pm
However unlikely, the possibility can NOT be eliminated. I can visulaize a humiliated Pakistani General facing defeat may feel he has to win at any cost. And, if he is of the Jihadi
mind set, the psossibility becomes more real.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:27pm
@nadeem qazi wish everybody in our nation had such sense of responsibility. I guess we are only meant to be ruled by the west. Never learnt from our history.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:29pm
We dare Pakistan to it! Accept it and lets see...
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Feb 28, 2015 11:40pm
On one side you have a terrorist prime minister who has a proven record of committing genocide and on other side you have jihadist. I think both these factor back up the notion if this report. Sensible educated human beings on both side should condemn their side.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:41pm
No sane General on both side will go for showdown as Indians and Pakistanis Armed Forces are civilized Armed Forces as during all the Wars we had we did not attack civilian area or other civil areas to harm its citizen. Its Jewish lobby who is out but Islam and Islamicphobia in limelight.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:44pm
As per Ajit Doval, NIA chief, India will double the compensation to Talibaan or TTP and they will deliver Pakistan's nukes to India properly packaged. Our nukes have danger of getting stolen than blown.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:45pm
India has already changed its nuke policy. The first missile to Pak will be a nuke that will wipe it out.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:47pm
Wars have been fought in past with no results so war is not the solution of any issue. Both the countries should resolve all issue including the issue of kashmir through dialogue.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:52pm
"A major terrorist attack in India might lead to a large-scale military assault on Pakistan..."
So India would be the one starting - right? UN should then punish it. Or perhaps it should be sanctioned right now as a preventive measure!
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Feb 28, 2015 11:55pm
"Mr Tellis of the same institute urged the United States to use its influence to preventing a terrorist attack."
Finally - about time too. India needs to be told to stop meddling in Baluchistan.
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Feb 28, 2015 11:56pm
@sadam Gurmani ...True...he said it on aap ki adaalat 2009. he clearly implied teaching Pakistan a lesson. Modi should learn to live in peace.
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Mar 01, 2015 12:15am
A exaggerated fear. The fundamental cause of conflict is so-called 'Kashmir Issue' which Indians will never give and Pakistan will never accept that. So ,what is the solution especially when each country know's that conventional war is not a option anymore ? Simple , Pakistan does away its policy of supporting LeT, Hafiz Saeed etc and India should also stop threatening Pakistan on every possible occasion. If a genuine peace and status-quo is possible for 5-10 years without any terrorist attack from Pakistan , we Indian and Pakistan can together go forward and make South Asia a free trade zone and eventually a borderless zone ( like EU). Hence, if everything goes right , in next 20-30 years we can have a Kashmir where both Pakistanis and Indians can live, reside, play , talk cricket , grow apples , ride together in Dal Lake.
The 1st step to it have to be Pakistan's disapproval of its terror sponsoring mechanism . I hope my Pakistani brothers understand it. :)
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Mar 01, 2015 12:34am
stop blame game on each other as i see too many blames on pakistan which is wrong as previously many alleged terror attack in india were blamed on pakistan but turned out to be false(train attack.parliament attack in india etc and even those which have connections ,it was non state actors unlike proven support for balluch in baluchistan by india and TTP support by india and afghanistan)so dont corner pakistan because that will have counter productive effect---the only way to go is stop blame game,dont jump to conclusion in case of mishap in either country ,co-operate with each other in investigations,give access to held terrorist on both sides to each other,respect each other irrespective of who is bigger or smaller,stop supporting separatist movts on either side by either countries,resolve kashmir according to kashmiris wishes,have reconciliatory attitude towards each other,be impartial and dont tilt to one superpower or other,stop spending on arms,start alleviating poverty on both sides and spend all defence budget on both sides on educating masses on both sides ---is the only way to go ,accept each other as friends earnestly like USA and CANADA,dont waste on spying on each other.
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Mar 01, 2015 12:35am
Thousands of years of history of this region shows that all small/large countries of south Asia have always been fighting with each other. This is nothing to do with religion. So Pakistan/Afghanistan/India fighting is not new and its just the way these people have been living over thousands of years. But now they have foreign technology of nukes and chemicals that will destroy everything in this area and will be the END. I wish for foreign powers to stop interfering and then these countries will only have low tech weapons to fight, and then they continue to live and fight like before for may be another thousand years
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Mar 01, 2015 12:59am
It seems like the Western "think tank" has not heard the slogans of "Ghar Wapsi" and "Akhand Bharat". Modi and his right wing cronies (with the help of peacefull leaders like Natanyaho) can't wait for he west to declare it "unacceptable" for any Muslim nation to possess any WMD.
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Mar 01, 2015 01:03am
what are these, tank full of thinkers.
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Mar 01, 2015 01:08am
@joe both
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Mar 01, 2015 02:01am
I am disappointed with most of the comments. Either they are favouring Pakistan or India. Any nuclear war will be crime against humanity. Why such a hate toward each other? No one should do a large scale military attack or no one should do a mass destruction of humanity. Come on people. Nuclear rain and radio active will destroy Asia. No one think of impact of such a crime...
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Mar 01, 2015 02:24am
@joe you idiot. Study Geography first then comment. Big populated cites from both countries lie right next to each other. If all these cities are hit both countries wont survive. Plus the radiation effect will be devastating to the entire region including China and Afghanistan. Most of the armies from both nations are at the border and with them gone India has none to defend its weastern borders. Plus God knows how far both countries have researched on these weapons. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were decades ago. Make sensable comments in the future.
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Mar 01, 2015 02:39am
Don't they have enough mess of their own to clean up before implying dooms-day scenarios between Pakistan and India...
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Mar 01, 2015 02:39am
@SEAsian
It is not matter who will suevive, why can't we respect each other and make our govt to work for peace...
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Mar 01, 2015 02:42am
How funny it is that US think Tanks especially neo-con affiliated KNOW All about every corner of world BUT did not see ISIS rise and a BAND of Criminals with pick up trucks capturing big swath of Land in Iraq and Syria. They even give them NAMES too....Al-Qaueda and ISIS imagined and propagated somewhere in think Tank offices....
It seems some powers are bent on a destructive war between India and Pakistan and preparing grounds for it......
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Mar 01, 2015 02:52am
Seriously .... India's one and only problem ... Just 1 bad neighbour ..... But i agree its wrong to point entire nation ... just that Pakistan need to re-prioritise and move ahead with peace ....
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Mar 01, 2015 02:53am
I strongly and seriously condemn the blame and pressure urjed by George Perkovich and Ashley Tellis on Pakistan.
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Mar 01, 2015 03:04am
Thank you Think Tanks. It means India is going to be more paranoid and will spend billions for American and Israelis weapon.
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Mar 01, 2015 03:36am
@Ram Shrikant So you are preconvinced that most muslims are terrorists in india and majorly pakistan and most of them if not all are carrying AK-47 in urban karachi, lahore and islamabad and there is no such thing as road, school or life in pakistan? Ground reality is that i have seen many indian and pakistani middle and lower middle class people abroad and believe me they are all the same. so lets stop this i am better than you Mr. Ram
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Mar 01, 2015 03:53am
Hopefully it will not come to a full scale war and most suspect India and Pakistan will spend $billions more arming themselves. I suspect China will use Pakistan to inflict damage on India and India in return will damage Pakistan. All will gain and the biggest losers will be Pakistan and India yet we will continue living under this threat.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:01am
HAHAAHA, these Washington experts. They know nothing better than to cause wars. Both Pakistan and India may be idiots in most cases, but they are not fool enough to ignore the consequences of a nuclear war on the regions.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:12am
@joe that is if all of theie nuclear bombs fall in India. I doubt they may even explode considering the knowledge and skill Pakistan has. But I doubt even one will fall in India and if India desires they will all fall in Pakistan destroying them.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:15am
@sadam Gurmani why are you telling lies? Mr Modi never said anything like that ever.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:15am
@habibullah You need to understand, that Kashmir or any other territory is non-negotiable, We're fro peace but not at the expense of breaking our country, enough land had been distributed to Pakistan and Bdesh. Kashmir is inseparable from India
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Mar 01, 2015 04:36am
it's really heart breaking that inspire of a long cherished history of composite culture and brotherhood we have fallen to such low levels.Our leaders and the western countries are responsible for the indo-Pak differences..other wise it's a common saying that a Hindu resides in the heart of a Muslim and a Muslim in the heart of a Hindu in the form of a friend;teacher Neighbour etc..we are one.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:42am
US expert should know that as of today there is a big possibility of world getting extinct due to the dispute in Ukraine. USA should stop putting their nose in all the conflicts around the world.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:43am
Unfortunately no country is immune of terrorist attacks. Then why India will or should start a war with Pakistan if it has a terrorist attack? Pakistan have several terrorist attacks by foreigners, does it means Pakistan should attack India? Does not make any sense.
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Mar 01, 2015 04:47am
@joe If your analysis is correct, what that remaining 60% would look like?
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Mar 01, 2015 05:06am
My sincere suggestion: If a large scale terrorist attack does happen and if it is proven w.a.d. that it originated from Pakistan, the Pakistani govt. should open the borders for the Indian Secret Service to come into Pakistan, hunt those terrorists and their masterminds and take them and their families back to India and prosecute them according to the Indian laws (because they committed that crime in India). We cannot sacrifice 190 million peace-loving people for the sake and believes of a few thousand absurd and degenerate minds.
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Mar 01, 2015 05:33am
@ jj Behind this nuclear race is China who is worst proliferator than even Pakistan. Tow of Chinese client states, North Korea and Pakistan have developed/built nuclear weapons
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Mar 01, 2015 05:46am
South Asia is over populated. People are over stretched, resources are over stretched. If nuclear fall out was to be restricted to south Asia, world would not be alarmed. Think tanks are right, if atomic war is the revenge gods have to take on mankind then South Asia is perfect.
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Mar 01, 2015 05:59am
Instead of war mongering! why not weed out the causes of possible war in the region? lets solve the Kashmir issue, both will have nothing to fight about if thats solved.
Nuclear war will be mutual destruction! people saying we will still survive are living in lala land! its not mickey mouse play its nuclear war we are talking about here.
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Mar 01, 2015 06:00am
Both nations are peaceful nations - suffering common issues like poverty and corruption. They have the same culture and ancestor roots. Forget about nuclear they can't even afford to have conventional war.
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Mar 01, 2015 06:14am
Seems more like a wish or proposal of the think tank
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Mar 01, 2015 06:16am
@joe 2% of Pakistan will be acceptable when compared against the leftover 60% of India because intensity of hate is so strong that those 2% who survive will call it a success against the infidels. For them, death in that situation will be called "sacrifice". And those leftover 2% can multiply like growing grass in our front yard and quickly catch up with those leftover 60% and the hatred will continue. Hafeez sayeed or his equivalent will still be around and killing of the infidels will remain the goal. Pakistan and India will continue their hatred and life in these two continue will continue in these two countries for ages like it has in the past.. The foregoing is not hard to predict.
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Mar 01, 2015 06:43am
It would be stupid of India to initiate a war over a terrorist attack.
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Mar 01, 2015 06:58am
@Luketer Ma people in this region need to be educated and must learn to accept the facts.
I do understand your emotion but I would suggest that you read Bruton Stein's history of India that will explain the demographic and territorial integrity of Kashmir.
The issue here is not Kashmir only but is how to save the region from a disaster that will be an end of mankind in this subcontinent.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:15am
@sadam Gurmani your comments are a pack of lies and spreading falsehood. Modi never ever rubbished what you are accusing him of. I can only feel pity on your source of information. Your thoughts about him are prejudiced and premeditated.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:18am
Two important lines:
"urged the United States to use its influence to preventing a terrorist attack."
"the gap in power promises to become even wider tomorrow than it is today"
It sums up all, Pakistan should wake up.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:29am
This is exactly what Taleban & other Miltant outfits like LET, LEJ etc etc want. They did that by doing 2009 Mumbai massacre but Indian Leadership that time excercised restraint & avoided the conflict.... Such a situation may happen again as Miltatans are frustratedby the success of Zarb e Azb & looking for other options.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:39am
@nadeem qazi well said
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Mar 01, 2015 07:40am
The best solution is one country and one nation as in past with satisfaction of 40% Muslims in united India. Or open borders like Europe so that public to public interaction will clear and remove misunderstandings and wrong notions created by vested interrests.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:43am
This think tank wants to sell their weapons to our country. They are not interested in pakistan or india. They want to bring destruction to our country.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:43am
From the very beginning, India has blamed Pakistan for every terror attack. Even Samjota Express attack was actually carried out by extremist hindus but Pakistan was blamed. On the other hand Indian involvement in Baloch insurgency is an open secret to all. RAW's involvement in destabilizing Pakistan is already confessed by Ajit Dovel, security advisor to pm Modi. It means, India blames Pakistan for home staged terror attacks
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Mar 01, 2015 07:54am
There is chances of terrorist attack on India.
There is availability of WMD.
There is possibility.
Then there is likelihood.
There are existing nuclear doctrine.
Therefore the power that be on both sides have mature.
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Mar 01, 2015 07:56am
@joe. Very wishful thinking. This is called living in fool's paradise. I have heard, that people who will still be alive after the Indo Pak nuclear war will say, "why didn't we die as well".
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Mar 01, 2015 08:40am
Let's get all the facts of this news..
Mr. Perkovitch also said " If Pakistan can't commit itself to working against the terrorists that have operated in India, then there's not much we can do to reassure them, there's probably not much we should do to reassure them, because that really is a problem," Carnegie Endowment's George Perkovitch said at a Congressional hearing on Wednesday . In remarks that were later echoed by intelligence chief Clapper, Perkovich said the good news is India has no desires for any Pakistani territory or anything in Pakistan."So 'threat' from India is only in response to Pakistani aggression in India or terrorism in India," he said.
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Mar 01, 2015 08:44am
Although this is the story which is fabricated by usa ,so they can sale their nuclear weapon to pakistan .But it is unfortunate that usa still thinks that the people of india and pakistan are naive.Sorry usa because of your bizarre and idiotic analysis india is not going to jump in acquiring nuclear arsenal .My country has never attacked any country in past and will follow the same principle in future.
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Mar 01, 2015 09:01am
U S patronage of India is making this more real. When was the last time U S took a fair stance on matters of Pak. Indo issues?
US smartness prevents ii from conducting its policy fairly and wisely.
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Mar 01, 2015 09:03am
Nonsense. Sheer ignorance of nuclear strategy? We are no more in sixties.
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Mar 01, 2015 09:26am
watch out for another false flag.
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Mar 01, 2015 10:19am
Do you know that if Pakistan nukes India and even if Indians do not retaliate, the nuclear fallout from that attack itself is enough to destroy Kashmir, take Pakistan to the Stone Age and ruin the air, water, environment and seas of most countries in the neighborhood?
Do not compare the atom bomb used previously as a bench mark,the smallest warhead of the present age is a hundred times more deadly.You may kill Indians in a flash but also slowly kill your own country and neighbors with cancer, deformed mutated children and barren land for generations. What survives of your country will remain diseased, outcast and condemned by the rest of the world .Nuking you back would just be an act of mercy. Instead nature and the monsoon will bring it to you. Forget what your enemies call you now; be ready for how your friends are going to remember you.
Every living being born has a commitment to death. We will live life fully and prosper until the last second. But we will not concede even an inch of our land and sovereign territory from Kashmir to Kanyakumari to any threat. Your country suffers now and will suffer worse after such a war.
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Mar 01, 2015 05:30pm
Not happening.
Irrespective of skirmishes between the two nations, no nuclear warheads will be exchanged.
These US guys are nothing more than fiction writers who are fascinated by something that they cannot understand.
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Mar 01, 2015 06:44pm
America is adding fuel to the fire by issuing such statements he has created two groups in this part of the world b coz he knows that if these four countries will get unite (India Pakistan China and USSR) then they will become a mighty military power of the world and America will lose its grip on one half of the world
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Mar 01, 2015 10:44pm
Is it a warning or an idea to Uncle Sam to sell his arms?
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Mar 01, 2015 10:52pm
@Nemo the no one US has given a clean chit to India from their interference in Balochistan through their 27 consulates, nay, terrorist training camps along side Pakistani border in Afghanistan. US has obviously some vested interests behind this move. Beware Indians
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Mar 01, 2015 11:01pm
@Jallal By none other than Uncle Sam to sell their arms
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Mar 01, 2015 11:18pm
So US congress here is a solution. Resolve Kashmir, UN resolutions already exist. Deal with the source, not the effects. Kashmiri freedom fighters are the effect, they want their country back and indian invaders out, they are fighting because you guys are talking about everything but their brutal occupation. Deal with it.
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Mar 02, 2015 02:23am
@Nikunj
I think the present Indian govt is misguided and has miscalculated Pakistan's present mood in its fight against the Taliban.
These guys mean real business and interference in their internal affairs can cause a real backlash to the detriment of both country's peace and tranquility.
II think if Pakistan's existence is threatened, a nuclear deterrent can become a reality
By promoting good relationship with Pakistan
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Mar 02, 2015 05:01am
Pakistani generals are not totally stupid fools. They love their grand estates and elite lifestyles in Rawalpindi and Islamabad too much to risk those being nuked to dust by the Indians. They know that India would retaliate through a massive nuclear strike if ever Pakistan will be foolish enough to launch a nuclear attack against India.
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Mar 02, 2015 05:27am
This comment forum started out with both neighbours uniting vociferously against the think tank for daring to treat the inhabitants of the subcontinent as immature and stupid. Then it degenerated into the usual devil may care chest thumping attitude of who will wipe out whom and win. Fortunately sane voices showed up again highlighting the horrors of a nuclear holocaust. Large or small, think tank or not, people: no nuclear war EVER. How can dooming the entire region constitute winning? This is exactly the mentality which holds the region back. Peace above all else. Solve problems diplomatically not be threats of war.
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Mar 02, 2015 07:43am
Based on Game Theory, Decision Matrix and State of the Art Computer Simulations it is mandatory for Pakistan to preemptively Nuke Bharat-India with all of its formidable might at once, as in yesterday.
The Hindoos are an extreme danger and ever present existential threat to Pakistan. At this time Pakistan can eliminated this threat to its very existence in forty five minutes or less. Bharat can be turned into a radioactive inferno, cindered and ashed from North to South and East to West, in that time or less.
Do this now, like as in yesterday. Else, prepare to be annihilated, subjugated or enslaved by the Hindoo forever!
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Mar 02, 2015 08:31am
@Hashim Khan India has a `no first use' policy on nukes. Nukes will be used only if someone attacks us first. With military calling the shots in Pakistan, a more likely situation is that Pakistan will attack India when they can't win over us in a conventional war.
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Mar 02, 2015 08:35am
@Ahmed USA That's because we are the same people at the end of the day. Our roots are the same
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Mar 02, 2015 08:37am
@zak In the event of a nuclear war, India might lose 40 per cent of its population. But no Pakistani would be around by the end of it. So please talk sense
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Mar 02, 2015 09:00am
@Ahmed USA "Countries should avoid risking even a small scale response to avoid falling into a trap conveniently laid out by instigators who are obviously against peace and harmony in the region..."
Isn't that the instigation (the true ones) not the perceived ones have been coming from the country you belong to?
The first thing that Pakistan does after getting independent (Just six weeks) is attack India by sending its Army along with Mujaheddin, then 1965, 1972, 1999, Send arms in Punjab, NE, Kashmir, cause, Mumbai, Parliament Attack, Bomb explosions in various cities across India... and this has been going on since last 67 years...
So its not that India hasn't (as your TV commentators LOVE to say) Pakistan ko Tasleem nahi kiya. It is basically your country hasn't Recognized India. It always thought it can WIN India by thrusting WAR on it and you think the other side should remain quiet and should not say anything... In fact what you have been seeing this patience but it won't last long.. If we were to act like what China, Israel or US does to its enemies we would have done long ago... (It is not about capability, because you have been defeated every time) No more... If the worst happens... so be it.. but let me tell you one thing. Pakistan WILL live in peace with anyone even after a nuclear calamity, the Hatred unites your country... and even after the calamity a few who might survive, the hate will continue to unite them...
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Mar 02, 2015 09:20am
@Hashim Khan
"Given the past track of Indian army's belligerent responses to such internal incidents, there is a possibility especially in the wake of rightist government in India. Compound that with Indian thirst for amassing weapons, this puts additional pressure on Pakistani defense movers and shakers. I hope this day never comes."
Tell me apart from last few months at border what belligerence (that too because you fire first to send terrorists in our borders, There were attacks on Military during elections, activists were killed) are you talking about? And if you think that is belligerence then what was it when Pakistan attacks India 6 weeks after being independent?, What was it when you attacked us again in 1965? 1999? Supported insurgencies in Kashmir, Punjab and NE and still doing it? What is it that Pakistan did in Mumbai, Parliament, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Jaipur various parts of India?
You don't have any evidence of perceived India's involvement except some fake evidence like Indian Medicines or Literature being printed in India with Addresses of Muslim countries on it (these evidences is laughable at best), or someone visiting somewhere?
Belligerence is Pakistan's First Name. Not ours and world knows that... nobody needs to prove that since all terrorists call Pakistan Home, there are more than 30 groups that are responsible for terrorism outside your country, attackers, planners, come from your country, OBL is found in your country... not ours.
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Mar 02, 2015 09:28am
The US has always played its part in South Asia as a culprit and the above article is once again a demonstration that the same country is again provoking the India and Pakistan in the context of using nuclear weapons. Well this is not as much easy as US is believing. Nuclear weapons for Pakistan are clearly for deterrence purpose and it will never use them until or unless there is some solid aggression from the outside. As long as the case of terrorism is considered then US must be shameful over its policies and claims against Pakistan, the same country where it is involved in countering the very deadly phenomenon by sacrificing its people doesn't deserve these claims. Pakistan has remained the front line ally of US in countering the very phenomenon of terrorism which was very much initiated in Pakistan by the US.
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Mar 02, 2015 09:30am
Pakistan must stop supporting terrorist on behalf of Al-Saud Family.
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Mar 02, 2015 10:33am
@zulfiqar ahmed I doubt there is any credence to India supporting TTP or any other non state actors. India has a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.
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Mar 02, 2015 10:36am
Pakistan is a creation of Angloes. David Hadley aka Dawood Gilani was an agent of who? Who helped Pakistan develop nuclear weapon? Historically India-China rose together and sank together. For most of the known history 90% of world GDP came from India-China and in few decades again it will be so. Who is working against this natural course?
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Mar 02, 2015 10:52am
It is true that a nuclear war between Pakistan and India is possible because both have the nukes. The days after such a war would be called achhe din.
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Mar 02, 2015 11:31am
@K I agree, nuke war is out, that's why during Obama visit, Kashmir was discussed in detail and solution agreed. President Musharaf formula. The activity in India now reflects that decision. Bravado talk by anyone is just for arm chair commentators, there are abundant from across the border.
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Mar 02, 2015 11:31am
@Masood That's a fair suggestion. There should be no consequences for peace loving Pakistanis or for that matter Indians
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Mar 02, 2015 12:04pm
All the pakistani brothers who are writing here will be martyred if 3 % of Indian Nuke hits coz of the size of nations. One nation who are proud be the strongest Islamic state will be in state of apocalypse. So we should think about sustainable peace and growth for the future rather pakistan involving and supporting extremists. This will bring more harm than any peaceful solutions. Yes on the part of Kashmir, both of us have got their share of it and shouldn't deserve more, this proverb stands tall above all "Greedy eaters dig their graves with their teeth."
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Mar 02, 2015 12:54pm
If kashmir problem is solved only... it would be great to not fight
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Mar 02, 2015 01:11pm
@Zak What is this imaginary formula?
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Mar 02, 2015 04:22pm
@sadam Gurmani : What about terrorists attack on Mumbai, Indian Parliament and other places??? Don't forget that Indian PM are facing a lot of pressure from the Indian people due to these terrorist attacks.
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Mar 02, 2015 04:48pm
Look who is warning. Are these the same experts who thought saddam was having WMD?
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Mar 02, 2015 06:32pm
History has witnessed that the first Nuclear bomb ever dropped were none other than the Americans... where were their so called experts....
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Mar 02, 2015 07:37pm
It is USA thinking war again. Tinkering in others problems. Trying to make sure these two S. Asian countries stay hostile to one another.
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Mar 02, 2015 08:55pm
More likely for China attacking the US with its nuclear arsenal!
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Mar 02, 2015 09:42pm
@Akshay don't fool yourself. Indian military twice was caught about to start a war, when the US caught them and informed the Political leadership who had to frantically stop them. Once Ranjiv Ghandi had to ask foreign governments to keep an eye on his military.
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Mar 03, 2015 03:09am
They wish. The only job of these think tanks is to create larger than life tensions where what really exists is neighbors squabbling about an issue. Neither India nor Pakistan are irresponsible and immature as the west would like to think. if that was the case there would already have been a nuclear war.
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Mar 03, 2015 04:28am
@nadeem qazi I do respect your opinion brother but you need to persuade your army and politicians to be prepared for the consequences.Their will be no winer in a nuclear war.India has always said she will not be the first user of these destructive bombs.It is for Pakistan to make the same commitment.After all why are we trying to have a show down with each other?Use nuclear weapons against each other for Kashmir? No way is the answer.
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Mar 03, 2015 06:58am
@Harsh "It is true that a nuclear war between Pakistan and India is possible because both have the nukes. The days after such a war would be called achhe din."
It would be called "The Day After" as in the movie. You should see it.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:11am
@Indian these attacks happened inside India so India is responsible! take care of your country, it is not Pakistan's job to protect you!
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Mar 03, 2015 09:21am
Question is, who will be behind the attack;
NEW DELHI: In what is certain to escalate the already vicious fight between the CBI and the IB over the IshratJahan "fake encounter case", a former home ministry officer has alleged that a member of the CBI-SIT team had accused incumbent governments of "orchestrating" the terror attack on Parliament and the 26/11 carnage in Mumbai.
R V S Mani, who as home ministry under-secretary signed the affidavits submitted in court in the alleged encounter case, has said that Satish Verma, until recently a part of the CBI-SIT probe team, told him that both the terror attacks were set up "with the objective of strengthening the counter-terror legislation (sic)".
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Mar 03, 2015 09:24am
@Abhai India does not need to, we dont want indian land, Kashmiris will its their land. UN resolutions mean, still unresolved and yet to be decided by plebiscite.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:27am
@Sanjay Guha war is war, conventional or unconventional. But better option to resolve Kashmir by plebiscite, than no war.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:30am
@Harsh still being ironed out. Will announce when finalised. Very close to the end.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:32am
@Kalandar RAW funded Taliban are getting their backside whipped by Pak army. India has lost already.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:36am
@Vandemataram first won't work. Pakistan needs 20 missiles to finish India for a thousand years and Pakistan 8 missiles. Food basket, water, infrastructure, dams, densely populated, agricultural belt. End of race. China walks in and renames the sub continent -'Lo-tan'south china.
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Mar 03, 2015 09:51am
Pakistan have been long claiming that there are also strong hand in creating insurgency and unrest in Pakistan. We are already in a war and cleaning the mess what US and India is creating in Pakistan.
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Mar 03, 2015 12:52pm
There is one simple thing need to understand that India has adopted "No First Use Policy" means India will never nuke first and will response badly. So it is very simple to understand who will use first.
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Mar 03, 2015 12:58pm
@zak yaar make one thing clear to me, why you people are dying for Kashmir, why not you people take care of your own parts which are captured by Taliban. First fight with those who have entered and captured your country, you are dying for Kashmir what a joke...........
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