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Does India belong to the Hindus alone?

Updated Feb 18, 2015 09:22am

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Volunteers of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) march through a street during a three-day workers camp on the outskirts of Ahmadabad. —AP/file
Volunteers of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) march through a street during a three-day workers camp on the outskirts of Ahmadabad. —AP/file

Times in India are a changing, and changing fast.

The coming to power of the Modi-BJP government in May 2014 has emboldened the associates of BJP, which are a part of the RSS progeny.

The RSS is working for the agenda of Hindu nationalism and has created many children organisations like Vishwa Hindu Parishad, Bajrang dal and Vanvasi Kalyan Ashram to name a few.

Collectively, these group are organisations originating from the RSS school of politics, which are called Sangh Parivar or also the RSS Combine.

These organisations have been working in different areas of society-nation for the agenda of the Hindu rashtra (Nation), contrary to the values of Indian nationalism.

Also read: RSS converts 350 Muslims to Hinduism, say papers

One of their works is in the Adivasi (tribal) areas. This work pertains to subjugating Adivasis to adopt the Hindu identity and also to communalise them. Their organisation, Vanavasi Kalyan Ashram in particular, in association with other organisations has been very active in the Adivasi areas for the last few decades.

In these areas, they have pursued the reconversion, ‘Ghar Wapasi’, very aggressively.

Their argument is that those who converted to Islam or Christianity have done so under force or allurement, and so, to bring them back to the Hindu fold is not conversion but merely their returning home.

This has been the major plank of their work in many Adivasi areas in Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh and Orissa in particular.

They have devised new rituals, like making Adivasis take baths in hot springs, participate in havans, and yagnas (Hindu rituals around fire) and then, declare that they have become Hindus.

In their scheme of things, all those living in India are Hindus. The category of Adivasis is not recognised, and instead the word used is Vanvasi (forest dwellers). The core of the tribals, having their unique culture and norms, is undermined and rejected.

Also read: Religious agenda keeps powder dry in India

Earlier such efforts were pushing through at medium pace, but with the Modi Government in power, it has clearly been stepped up.

Through Ghar Wapasi they are not only communalising the society but also creating insecurity among the minorities.

The RSS combine does not believe in diversity; they assert that India belongs to the Hindus alone and so they dub Christianity and Islam as ‘foreign’ religions.

The attempts to intimidate Christian missionaries have been ongoing since the last four decades and it has considerably been stepped up in the last few months; the propaganda against Christian missionaries is that they are converting people away from Hinduism. While people throng to get their children in missionary run schools-colleges, at the same time, this hate-spewing propaganda of conversion by the Christian missionaries has become a part of ‘social common sense’.

I recall that as I was returning from Kandhamal, (August 2008) seeing the massive violence against the Christians, the damage to churches and the displacement of Christians en masse from their homes, the streets of Bhubaneswar were abuzz with the idea that ‘Christian missionaries are a threat to Hinduism as they are converting’.

Interestingly, as per the national population census the percentage of Christians showed a slight decline from 2.60 per cent in 1971 to 2.30 per cent in 2001.

This propaganda has relentlessly fueled violence, from the brutal burning of Pastor Graham Stewart Stains on January 23, 1999 in Manoharapur, Orissa, the honorific Kandhmal violence in Orissa 2008 to the introduction of the ‘Freedom of Religion’ Acts in states like Madhya Pradesh, Orissa, Rajasthan and Himachal Pradesh. These ‘Freedom of religion bills’; contrary to their names; put strong impediments for whosoever wants to convert.

These laws make it mandatory that if one wants to convert one has to inform the District Collector beforehand. These laws as such are against the provisions of the letter and spirit of our Constitution.

Factually speaking, there has hardly been any case where force or allurement has been reported.

Also read: Indian parliament in chaos over forced conversion protests

It wouldn’t be wrong to state that it has only been the intimidating assertions of the RSS combine which have led to violence against Christian minorities in India.

The Ghar Wapasi, as in the case of Agra (December 2014) was conducted around the assertion that those participating in yagna would be given BPL (Below Poverty Line) cards and ration cards.

These cards help the poor in getting their rations and other small facilities. In areas like Dangs in Gujarat; an intimidating atmosphere was created through organising Kumbh Melas (mass religious congregations).

Now, Dharam Jagran Samiti, part of the RSS combine, has announced that they intend convert 100,000 Christians and Muslims every year.

In a drive seeking donations from patrons, this organisation has appealed that they have to incur large expenditures for the conversions. For Christians’ to Hinduism it was INR 100,000 and for Muslims to Hindus it was INR 500,000.

To cap it all in the run-up to the 50th anniversary of VHP, due next February, it has planned to carry out the Ghar Wapasi program on a much larger scale.

As such, caste has a quite a central place in India in the phenomenon of conversion.

There are some Christian sects, which do pronounce that they do conversions, but these are a small segment. The major Christian denominations point out that they do conversions only if asked, which is what our Constitution also provides for.

Also read: Dangerous life & times of India

In my own interaction with many Christians in cities and Adivasi areas, I realised that most of those who converted to Christianity did so due to interaction with missionaries over several decades.

It was the help they received in health or education sectors, which prompted them to convert.

We need to uphold freedom of religion on the one hand and oppose any conversion resorting to coercion or inducement on the other.

In short: the communal agenda of the RSS combine needs total opposition.

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Ram Puniyani is a writer and activist.

He is associated with various secular initiatives and also has been part of different investigation reports on the violation of human rights of minorities. He can be reached at ram.puniyani@gmail.com


The views expressed by this writer and commenters below do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.


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mimi sur Feb 17, 2015 06:07pm

Yes, according to 2 nation theory, India is for Hindus.

Ahmed USA Feb 17, 2015 06:07pm

Term "Hindu" does not belong to a single faith or community and includes everyone of every faith living in "Hindustan" or nowadays India...no one community should have patent on exclusive use of this term...

Abdul kadir Feb 17, 2015 06:08pm

Muslim population in India has increased 23%.

Ahmed USA Feb 17, 2015 06:08pm

Term "Hindu" does not belong to a single faith or community and includes every one of every faith living in "Hindustan" or nowadays India...no one community should have patent on exclusive use of this term...

Dwaraka nath Feb 17, 2015 06:10pm

If Pakistan is only for Muslims why not India for Hindus?

Ajeet Feb 17, 2015 06:10pm

Mr Ravan Papayini, Pakistan was for Muslims and India is for Hindus. Its called Bharat or Hindustan.

zak Feb 17, 2015 06:16pm

While Pakistan was created as muslim state and only for muslims , India was created as secular state hence it belongs to the world , anybody can come and live in it, hats off to such a nation.

rahul1 Feb 17, 2015 06:16pm

Simple answer is NO, even a child in INdia knows that very well - India is Pluralist and shall remain so. However, Mr. Ram, you seem to be one of those fading Congress Loyalist - who want to divide society by over projecting threats of fringe Hindutva forces

logic Feb 17, 2015 06:17pm

So Islamic Republic of Pakistan is OK but not Hindu Republic of India Is that not the basis of Jinnah's two nation theory?

zak Feb 17, 2015 06:17pm

@Ajeet Very very funny , cannot stop laughlin.

Junaid Feb 17, 2015 06:18pm

@Dwaraka nath I always thought that India had moved forward from the stone age but we Pakistanis on the other hand are still defined by the age of ignorance... but you and @Ajeet force me to reaccess.

I really hope that you are only a small minority!

damoo Feb 17, 2015 06:19pm

surely. hindustan is for hindus . here no one said that there is no place for muslims etc..,but all muslims are living very peacefully and enjoying all previlages and reservations etc. but it is our duty to protect our culture and our vaarasatv. so there is no fault at all in declaring hindustan as country of hindus . here even abdul kalam is muslim,but we never shown partiality,and here no common people think about difference.

zak-i-chan Feb 17, 2015 06:19pm

@Dwaraka nath Where will buddhists go then whom you gave asylum after they escaped from tibet after chinese capture.

apoorva Feb 17, 2015 06:21pm

Ram you are quoting drop in Christian population from 71 is your sheer lack of knowledge.All the religion in India have seen a drop since then Except Muslims. Muslims have increased by percentage . I am sure that there is no forced conversion to Islam in India but I have witnessed several cases where missionaries have allured tribals into Christianity either through fear or monetarily

Tranquil Feb 17, 2015 06:22pm

@Dwaraka nath Pakistan does not claim that its a secular country.

avi Feb 17, 2015 06:23pm

Yes it is

Tranquil Feb 17, 2015 06:23pm

@Ajeet Than stop claiming that you secular state.

Abdul kadir Feb 17, 2015 06:23pm

@Dwaraka nath Being an Indian it hurt me.India is a secular country and will always be.Stop hating people and spread love.

nimesh Feb 17, 2015 06:27pm

Please be reasonable. The government simply cannot guard every one of India's 50,000 churches or each of the 30,000 odd missionaries that are active at any one time in India. That would take untold 000's of crores. As a poor country India does not have that kind of money. Also, in a country of 1.2 billion people just a couple of thousand miscreants can create havoc. People have to take responsibility for their own safety. Install CCTV's in your local church and hire some security when you travel. Remember this is no different than when Americans/britons/japanese travel to ISIS areas. There can't be an expectation of safety.

n b Feb 17, 2015 06:29pm

Religion is good for private use, but including religious agenda in all social and state affairs is not good for anyone in modern society. Muslim League was formed in 1906, Khilafat movement started around 1920, and RSS came later around 1925. The problems also appeared in same sequence. All these are incorrect.

SBB Feb 17, 2015 06:30pm

Short answer - No, India does not belong to the Hindoos alone. But it is the Hindoos who have kept India secular and a place where Hindoos, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, Zoorastrians, Jains, Buddhists and others can live in peace. They can attend the same schools, have the same goals, worship wherever and however they want without prejudice. Had that not been the case, minority populations would be decreasing, not increasing.

Dipak Singh Feb 17, 2015 06:31pm

Its very simple: everybody is Hindu who lives in Hindustan, may be the Budhists, Jain, Sikh, Muslim, Cristian, Parsian or Sanatan Dhram or any other faith., coz Hindu is not a religion, Hinduism is a culture because Hindustan's civilization based on Indus valley & river..

Rajiv Baruah Feb 17, 2015 06:31pm

According to the Two Nation theory, India is for the Hindus.

Prakash Feb 17, 2015 06:32pm

India as a country has nothing to do with religion.That's what the BP and all their brain-dead Sangh Parivar cousins need to realise.

El Indiano Feb 17, 2015 06:33pm

Mr. Ram Puniyani, this article might have had a place in the Indian media. As Indians, we do need to introspect from time to time, and all opinions, even extreme and unjustified ones, are welcome. But it definitely has no place in a foreign newspaper, especially not in a Pakistani newspaper. Whatever might be happening in India, it is nowhere near as bad as what's happening in Pakistan. What are you trying to tell Pakistani readers here? That India is such a bigoted country compared to their secular heaven?

ninurtha Feb 17, 2015 06:33pm

It is bharathavarsha ,hence jagir of great king bharat hence should belong only to sons of bharat.

Ragu Feb 17, 2015 06:36pm

I am a Hindu, and I dot believe that India is for Hindus alone; look at all those from various faiths that have contributed to India and humanity in general; India is about a set of values and those who belong in equality of faiths and in democracy belong to India; those who bash any faith better get out. we do not need such elements.

Abhai Feb 17, 2015 06:37pm

Every community in India has its own an Organization, be it Muslims or Christians or any community. If Hindus have their own Organization, whats the big deal in it ?

Abhishek Thakur Feb 17, 2015 06:39pm

India does not belong to Hindus alone. Initially Dravid used to live here. Then Arya came, who later called Hindus. Arya divided into Jain and Baudh. Jain further divided into Digambar and Shwetambar. Then cam Shak, Hoon, Mangol and Islam. Islam came twice to India. Once from Arab for business to South India and the second time Babar the Mughal. Islam went into another branch called Sufi. Sufi (Kabir) and Hinduism combined became Sikh. Infact a lot of Sikh holy literature comes from Kabir. Hinduism itself divided into Shaiv and Vaishnav. French came to Pondicheri, Portugal came to Goa and British came to India. Hence, Christians and Parsi also joined. Then after independence Nagaland also became part of India. Hence Naga (Tribes) also came. Many of the Arunanchal people are Tao. Then there are lots of Tribal people who have their own faiths. Indian constitution respects every faith. Fanatics are in every community now a days. It's sad that Muslims made another nation but lots of muslims were never been asked. Remember it was not 1 man one vote in British era. Hence lots of muslims did not move to Pak and chose India. The IDEA of India is plurality. Once you kill that the IDEA will be defeated, India will be defeated.

Abhi Feb 17, 2015 06:44pm

@Abdul kadir If you really want to spread love then accept that all ways and means of worship is true. Let me see whether you really wanna spread Love or just being hypocritical like others.

Babloo Feb 17, 2015 06:44pm

India belongs to Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs and Jains all Indic ideologies born out of ancient Indian scriptures called vedas and Upanishads. Muslims may have been accommodated but they demanded partition and separate territory. So the homeland for muslims of S Asia are Bangladesh and Pakistan. Also given what happened to 22% non-muslims in Pakistan after partition and 30% Hindus in E Pakistan, Hindus can only call India their home.

reddy Feb 17, 2015 06:45pm

YES

Abhishek Thakur Feb 17, 2015 06:46pm

@Dwaraka nath Because India chose to be a secular state by its constitution. Bhagat Singh was a leftist. He did not give his life to us for a Hindu state. Always remember that

Arshad F. Khan Feb 17, 2015 06:46pm

It is fair - If Pakistan for Muslims. Why cant India for Hindus? Here is the problem:

Pakistan is well known internationally to marginalize minorities and not give them the rights they deserve [sorry countrymen, harsh but true]. She has failed all the attempts so far to eradicate violence against minorities. Hang on countrymen! I am not saying it will fail in the end!

While on the other hand, India is lesser known internationally for sowing the seed of transformations and Hindu traditions to make it purely Hindu society. Hang on neighbors! I am not saying it is yet! She brags out religious tolerance and oftentimes become hyperbolic of their achievements on this [sorry neighbors harsh but true].

We are chip of same block - Oh yes, hypocrites!. One can argue, one is more than the other. Go on and prove who is less and who is more!

Vic Feb 17, 2015 06:48pm

@zak-i-chan Budhists will not go anywhere they are off shoots of hinduism.

indus Feb 17, 2015 06:54pm

India has granted refugee status to the Rohingya.

Tekuder Feb 17, 2015 07:01pm

There are mad people everywhere so does in India. It is yet to see how Modi controlling them. I believe things worsened but still in control. It wont take much time to thow BJP out of power the way they were thrown in Delhi if they don't control these anti elements. Regarding Bhubaneswar and Kandamal incident, they are true. That's why BJP is out of power since last 1o years in Orissa.

Riaz Feb 17, 2015 07:06pm

@Abdul kadir

Sorry sir; here Dwarka nath is right, being a Hindu he has accepted that India is only for Hindus. Conversions of Muslims and Christians through so called "Ghar Wapsi (home return)" and genocide of Muslims and Sikhs etc are ample proof for that. Slogan of secular India is farce.

Man Feb 17, 2015 07:06pm

India is having many wise people like Dr Ram Puniyani and social structure of India is very strong. It does not matter, whether you call it secular or non secular or call it in any other name,India is a beautiful country and it will remain a beautiful country in years to come.

tashu Feb 17, 2015 07:09pm

India belongs to all the people who are living in this country whether they are Hindus Muslims Christians n sikhs.

TruthBeTold Feb 17, 2015 07:11pm

India is for Indians. Who are Indians? Refer to Citizenship Act of 1955 (for people too lazy to read-There is no religion criteria involved)

Nemo the no one Feb 17, 2015 07:11pm

First decide Who is a Hindu? Answer is there!

OMPRAKASH Feb 17, 2015 07:16pm

muslims demanded partition on religious lines,so that pakistan & bangladesh created,so india is for hindus, and look,at the time of partition 10 % muslims in india & may be 10 % hindus in pakistan,but today muslims in india are increased to 20 % and hindus in pakistan reduced to only 2 to 3 %

prakash Feb 17, 2015 07:16pm

not at all.

G. Din Feb 17, 2015 07:21pm

@zak You have a very weird sense of humour, my friend!

Ajay vikram Singh Feb 17, 2015 07:21pm

@Tranquil - You mean to say Jinnah was lying when he claimed just after independence that Pakistan will be a secular society?

Jatt Feb 17, 2015 07:29pm

We knew this all along and that is why we wanted a seperate state. There is a large section of Hindus who believe that non Hindus cannot be indians. That same section of Hindus us now in power.

Abdul Feb 17, 2015 07:30pm

India had a muslim population of 9% at the time of partition and Pakistan had 10% Hindus and Bangladesh 30%. Now, the Hindu population in Pakistan is less than 1% and all temples are destroyed and in Bangladesh Hindu population is around 12% now which if you equate to in numbers is millions. Whereas, in India Muslim population has increased from a mere 9% to 22% which in numbers is more than an increase in Pakistani population. Read the facts and then comment or write articles. Read persecution of Hindus on internet and you will understand.

Jatt Feb 17, 2015 07:35pm

@Ajay vikram Singh Pakistan was a homeland for muslims, Jinnah rightky requested that although it was a homeland for muslims it should not be a theocratic state. However India was not to be a homeland for Hindus, and that is why there are so many Christians, muslims, Buddhists and Sikhs there.

Ajay vikram Singh Feb 17, 2015 07:37pm

@Abdul kadir - yes and out of that 23%, 15% are illiterate, 20% are unemployed and 21% are below poverty line. Only 2 or 3% muslims of India are educated, employed and wealthy. Time to introspect.

shiv Feb 17, 2015 07:38pm

As an Indian i can say india belongs Indians. Everyone has equal right over their claim of being indian, the problem arises when we start dividing people in a secular country on the basis of religion.This conversion/reconversion issue is going on from a long time.Worst sufferers are the tribal groups who are uneducated and can be easily deceived. Political parties use religion card as their votebank. This has to stop! everyone is saying conversion/reconversion is bad no one is trying to stop it. best way to stop it are as follows- 1-Stop/moniter funds of every group(hindu/muslim/christians) 2-pass strict laws on conversion. 3-stop giving benifits to a selective section of society(reservations/quotas should be stopped may it be minority or majority)and treat everybody as equal.

MyTake Feb 17, 2015 07:39pm

The fact of the matter is prior to 600 AD. There was no islam. Indian subcontinent including Kashmir and all of Afghanistan was all Hindu or Bhuddists. While India does not belong to Hindus alone in a pluralistic society, as long as other religions in this area are conscious of the fact is all is expected.

Mohammed Feb 17, 2015 07:40pm

Why such a fixation on religion - regardless if its Pakistan or India - both our peoples came from a 'Hindu'stani culture and yes the 'culture' is Hindu regardless what nation it is. Our religions are Islam predominantly in Pakistan and Hindu in India. We need to 'build' peace and understanding/education rather than use religion in either nation as a tool to hate the other. Come on!

Zierbu Feb 17, 2015 07:41pm

Why not ? Infact whole Akhand Bharat

KN Feb 17, 2015 07:43pm

With a population of 1.2 Billion people there are bound to be some extreme crazies. But they don't define the entire nation. The vast majority of the Hindus in India and the vast majority of the people of every religion want India to continue as a secular nation with equal rights for all religion. So don't give unnecessary publicity to the crazies by giving them too much attention.

Jitu Feb 17, 2015 07:49pm

Y only RSS is being targeted all the time? What abt christian missionaries ,who go abt converting only tribals , dalits and economically backward people? Why the so called secular people dont ask questions to them?

If ever they r so much interested in helping poor people of india , y not give them education ,jobs ,money,etc?

Y becoming a christian should be a prerogative for them to help poor indian people?

y they never approach well of indians to propogate their religion?

dewgrass11 Feb 17, 2015 07:58pm

one GUY answered correctly.. who and what is HINDU.. search for it.. understand the term you'll get the answer,and generally who cant understand that. INDIA is for everyone, i mean every religion people who are citizens of INDIA. HINDUTHVA itself is secular.. other wise other religion people would'nt have co-existed this long. You can see the arrogance of Jamia masjid Imam.. that is the liberty Muslims are enjoying in India.

Fareed (usa) Feb 17, 2015 07:59pm

Of course Bharat belongs to Hindus, RSS is a 'danda' brigade just like Brown Shirts under Hitler that believes in Hindutva. Narendra Modi being at whelm of the country, RSS is invigorated. Minorities as it sounds, are minorities. Remember 1984, uprising by Sikhs, then 2000 Muslims massacred under the rule of then CM Gujarat- Who was CM? Narendra Modi. This so called biggest, largest democracy is a smoke screen working well in the eyes of Bharat's new friend & benefactor, the USA and other western countries.

Neeraj Feb 17, 2015 08:04pm

@Abdul kadir ....and you counted that. Please stop these kind of propaganda. Indian census may not be accurate 100% but there is no better source than that at the moment. Indian census 2011 says something around 14%. Is that a setback to you?

Datta Feb 17, 2015 08:07pm

@Ajay vikram Singh There is noquestion of %. Point is they are all ours. B lood is always thicke than water. I know , many a muslims who migrated to Pakistan are repenting now. Muslims of Nagpur cannot be comfortable with Panjabis. Hindus or muslims.

Suvamoy Feb 17, 2015 08:08pm

@Dwaraka nath I am a Hindu and from India. India would never become a Hindu Rashtra or for Hindus. It will always be a secular state. There are some people like you who wnat India to be a Hindu Rashtar - my simple message - a majority of Indians reject your views.

Shah Feb 17, 2015 08:11pm

India is the homeland for Hindus and it always will be. Along with that it is the homeland to Sikhs, Christians, Jains, Buddhists, Muslims, etc... This is the beauty of India! No doubt India has troubles but in large all religious communities live in peace and harmony. After the Mumbai terrorist attacks and the Mumbai floods, people helped each other, regardless of religion. Can we say the same about Pakistan?

Pragmatist Feb 17, 2015 08:16pm

Hindu religion is the faith of our ancestors. It is also the basis of Indo-Pakistani culture. We should remember that this great religion was there all the way into Afghanistan before the advent of Islam. The Muslims in Indian subcontinent should look at the religious issues in that light and be accommodating. Similarly Hindus should also realize that Muslims are not aliens and treat them as brothers. After all Hinduism is the largest secular faith of the world.

joe Feb 17, 2015 08:20pm

Does India belong to the Hindus alone? Well just put it this way.. Does Pakistan belong to Muslims alone.. We will have the ANSWER..

Hope of Earth Feb 17, 2015 08:22pm

No like Pakistan, Iran, UAE, Saudi belog to Muslims alone, France, Germany and USA belong to Christians alone. Likewise India does not belongs to Hindus.

Like previous PM of India clearly said on record that, Muslims have first right on the resources of India, Christians have second.

Not like present PM Modi, who says the poor have first right on the resources of India. Is he mad?

Pakistan ruled India 500 years, so every inch of Indian land belongs to Pakistan and Muslims alone.

ajabbar Feb 17, 2015 08:27pm

we Kerala Muslims are proud Indians.

Prasad Feb 17, 2015 08:27pm

For guys like Dwaraka Nath, it is easy to say "If Pakistan is only for Muslims why not India for Hindus?". Even after seeing the fate of Pakistan today don't know how this guy want to make India like Pakistan. India stand is Pakistan creation itself is on wrong lines. State based on religion is wrong concept. Pakistan is proving it. Why RSS and its fans want to make India as Pakistan? Is there peace in Pakistan with just Muslims and Islam as state religion? RSS and its followers are just fools trying to mimic Pakistan in India.

Prashant Feb 17, 2015 08:29pm

India was, is nd will be a secular country. Doesn't matter wht these religious bigots say, 'Hinduism' is lot different frm 'Hindutva'.

ajabbar Feb 17, 2015 08:30pm

@Ajay vikram Singh ,,,, 80% of Kerala Muslims are educated/qualified, including Muslim girls of Kerala

Indian Feb 17, 2015 08:32pm

"Interestingly, as per the national population census the percentage of Christians showed a slight decline from 2.60 per cent in 1971 to 2.30 per cent in 2001."

This is a big lie in this article. Most Christian converts (SC & STs) don't declare themselves as Christians because they lose reservations. In my college, majority (>90%) students who got admissions based on the reservation are Christians. I think the population of Christians in India is over 15%.

Shamsher Singh Bajwa Feb 17, 2015 08:32pm

@damoo Hindustan is not for Hindus. Hindustan is for Indians. It belongs to all belongs to all Indians regardless of their culture, religious, or ethnic background. If you want hindu raj you are more than welcome to pack your bags and move to Nepal. This is my country!

Shamsher Singh Bajwa Feb 17, 2015 08:35pm

@Jatt And the irony is a land created for the security of Muslims is where Muslims are the victims of murder, suicide attacks, and drone strikes. Be it Karachi, Fata, or Lahore.

itrat khaliq Feb 17, 2015 08:49pm

@Ajeet Search about the word hindu . In middle ages, people who travel to subcontinent calls the inhabitant "hindu" as it is originated from hindukush valley . Real word is sindhu from sindh because indus valley civilization is the oldest civilization in this region.

Knowledge should be impartial . Cheers

V.sreenivas. Feb 17, 2015 09:08pm

Hindus in India have welcomed and lived in peace with all other religions. They have never attacked other religions. Their policy is live and let live. Their motto is vasudaiva kutumbam (whole world is one family) and their prayer is sarve jana sukhino bhavantu (let everyone live happily. However the proselytizing religions which came to India disturbed the harmony. If Hinduism is vanquished from India by the proselytizing religions there will be nothing but strife between the proselytizing religions and no place for minorities as is witnessed in many Muslim countries. Hindus have a right to safeguard their existence and culture and that is what they are doing now in response to the disturbances caused by proselytizing religions with all the advantages they have enjoyed in the past in terms of money and power.

ToThePoint Feb 17, 2015 09:09pm

Term "Hindu" : This term was coined by Persians some two thousand years ago. The term Hindu is nowhere mentioned in any religious scriptures of India (Vedas, Gita etc). Entire middle east region was recognizing people coming from east of HinduKush mountain region and Sindh as Hindu ( word derived from Sindhu). Basically Hindu does not denote a religion. As per Supereme court's ruling: The term 'Hindu' does not denote a religion, but denotes a culture.. Even all Pakistan's (who are predominantly muslims) are Hindus. So whats wrong if RSS wants make India a hindu rashtra? Infact India is already a hindu rashtra - you cannot make it what it is already. The entire discussion about Hindu Rashtra is pointless.

P Setra Feb 17, 2015 09:13pm

@Dwaraka nath India chose to be 'secular state' not a ' Hindu Republic', that is why.

citizen Feb 17, 2015 09:21pm

I hope India never becomes a exclusive Hindu nation. I like it being a secular n its diversity .

Raheel Feb 17, 2015 09:50pm

JAWAHARLAL NEHRU said in his "THE DISCOVERY OF INDIA" (Page 37): "HINDUISM as a faith is vague, amorphous, many sided, all things to all men. It is hardly possible to define it, or indeed to say definitely whether it is a religion or not, in the usual sense of the word. In its present form, and even in the past, it embraces many beliefs and practices, from the highest to the lowest, often opposed to or contradicting each other."

surprised Feb 17, 2015 09:52pm

The so called Hindu nation has started after BJP came to power. But as a voter what was in my mind to vote BJP? First, congress hatao desh bachao. Second, the dragging economy and price rise in every sector, three corruption, four development to the next phase like Gujrat...If it was to bring some people biased towards Hinduism, BJP would have never came to power.

Vikram Singh Feb 17, 2015 09:53pm

Being a Hindu, I will say that RSS does not represent Hindus. They are fanatics who should be banned. The country belongs to Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, and anyone who lives in India. So it is not a Hindu country but a Secular country by constitution. I live in the US and have so many Pakistani friends. Even my dentist is Pakistani. I wonder how people living in Pakistan and India find time to hate each other.

Vish Feb 17, 2015 10:03pm

Absolutely. Hindu applies to all religions of India. Higher growth rate of the Muslims in the recent 2011 census is enough proof that ghar wapsi is mainly a media creation.

Veenit india Feb 17, 2015 10:15pm

yess!! Pakistan was created for muslims......

Robert Feb 17, 2015 10:25pm

No. It is not. Those who believed that India is for Hindus only moved to Pakistan during and after Pakistan's creation. Those who liked to live in a secular country stayed in India including Muslims who outnumber those living in Pakistan.

RUSS Feb 17, 2015 10:30pm

FIRST LET PAKISTAN BECOME SECULAR

suren Feb 17, 2015 10:31pm

@Tekuder Dwarka Math represent that madness.

DailyTroll Feb 17, 2015 10:39pm

Absolutely true! The old India was divided into many nations - one for Muslims (actually two since you guys could not figure out how to stay united) and one for Hindus. So yes, what we call India today is Hindustan.

suren Feb 17, 2015 10:44pm

I think, Indians who are reading Dawn, most of them belong to RSS school of thought. Very few sensible comments !! I am not surprised when they sharply reacts on Muslims or issue related to Muslims. I just want to tell these Nationalist that all is not well in India or Hinduism. We will pay heavy price if we bring religion in mainstream or public policy domain. Religion is beautiful when it is remain as a private affair inside our house.

Dr Khwaja Ajmal Waheed Feb 17, 2015 11:00pm

It is heartening and good news. Attire of secularism will be torn apart. All minorities in India about 25 percent will feel alien. Can india remain united under such scenario?

Akbaruddin Ansari Feb 17, 2015 11:03pm

Islamic Republic of Pakistan. That sums up all !!

Adeeb Feb 17, 2015 11:07pm

@Dwaraka nath then stop claiming it a secular state and call it instead India a Hindu State

XYZ-Indian Feb 17, 2015 11:16pm

@zak :- Muslims like you have created problem for Muslims around the world.

Kumar Feb 17, 2015 11:20pm

India's strength lies in respecting it's diversity!

Zak Feb 17, 2015 11:23pm

@Dipak Singh every country should be given choice to become independent if their religion is being attacked. Religion is a personal matter, why should ration cards, intimidation, and threats of murder be the cause. Why tell a Christian Doctor, to become an untouchable and start cleaning toilets, as he is sub human, lower than a dog. This will backfire and be the cause of fragmentation of the indian sub continent.

Narsanghraha Feb 17, 2015 11:25pm

@Adeeb Its a HIndu Dharmic nation ,secular by nature as Dharma stands for right conduct and not a particular deity as .Dharma rejects Divine to be imprisoned in any particularity of doctrine, place or personality.

Neeraj Feb 17, 2015 11:28pm

India belongs to Hindu, Muslim, sikh, Isai, parsis! India belongs to Indians! We All Make India Beautiful!

Neeraj Feb 17, 2015 11:31pm

@Dwaraka nath India is for Indians!

Em Moosa Feb 17, 2015 11:34pm

@Ahmed USA Hindu is Hindu. Its faith not belong to the term for nation. Christians, Jews, Parsi or Muslims are not come under the term of Hindu.

Kumar Feb 17, 2015 11:54pm

It is not going to happen and we don't want only Hindu community in India, India for all humans, irrespective of their religion. I think Pakistan media is just covering this subject too much....this idea belong to only few groups, they won't represent all Indians.

Bada SAAB Feb 18, 2015 12:17am

@Vikram Singh Madrasa teaching.............................

Bada SAAB Feb 18, 2015 12:21am

@Riaz Farce ................is Salman, SRK, Amir , Premji, Katrina and not forgeting recent entries from Pakistan,, Fawad, and kind

Aam Pakistani Feb 18, 2015 12:22am

@Dwaraka nath Pakistan was truly never meant for Muslims only. This is what they teach you in India. You can find the real truth in Jinnah's first speech as the governor general of Pakistan in 1947.

kumar Feb 18, 2015 12:39am

@mimi sur I wish it was true.

kumar Feb 18, 2015 12:42am

It is OK for Muslims and Christians to propagate their religion among Hindus by fear or by enticement. However, Hindus are not allowed to encourage conversion back to Hindus. . Why not?

kumar Feb 18, 2015 12:53am

@Vikram Singh I live in US too. I also know Pakistanis. Muslim are nice when they are in minority but not when majority. In US Hindus/Muslims are treated the same and some time with same bias. That is what unites them or at least make them tolerant of each other.

S Tandon Feb 18, 2015 01:04am

Yes, this is the answer to your question? However, other minority,if any, should be protected.

Third Party Feb 18, 2015 01:22am

Muslims are safe in India.

Black Sabbath Feb 18, 2015 01:31am

"Does India belong to the Hindus alone?"

Short answer: NO

Long answer: You can ask the 300 million minorities living in India.

Raj Robert Feb 18, 2015 01:36am

Reunification is the the KEY!!

Imran Feb 18, 2015 01:36am

@El Indiano "What are you trying to tell Pakistani readers here? That India is such a bigoted country compared to their secular heaven?" Bhai jaan, when did we claim to be a secular heaven? Give me one example. Only India has such tall claims.

Imran Feb 18, 2015 01:39am

@RUSS "FIRST LET PAKISTAN BECOME SECULAR". Why? Did we say we want to become secular?

pathanoo Feb 18, 2015 01:45am

I am a born Hindu and an Ex Indian. What is happening in India is shameful and must be condemned in strongest terms. At the same time I know the ethos of this ancient land will NOT allow this poisonos seeds of sectarianism to grow.

sri1 Feb 18, 2015 01:47am

@Arshad F. Khan Slightly unfair assessment. The proof lies in eating the pudding. India might have fringe right-wing elements from time to time, but you will always see that minority rights are respected here. The concept of comparing a polytheistic accepting religion with exclusive monotheist religions is itself unfair. Can you imagine India being how it is with a different faith as majority? I rest my case.

mdinud Feb 18, 2015 01:52am

@Ahmed USA Well said! Term Hindu belongs to all Indians.

usman777 Feb 18, 2015 02:14am

This is your internal matter.

Aditya Tripathy Feb 18, 2015 02:31am

just like a Muslim doesnt learn everything from Qu.ran ..similarly other religious people do not learn everything from their holy books.. Each religion teaches something new to this world and thus the soul of this earth is made up of different religions.. None of the religions can claim to be perfect or made by GOD..

Bea Feb 18, 2015 02:39am

A country cannot belong to any one religion it belongs to everyone who lives and loves that country.

Kolsat Feb 18, 2015 02:58am

Hindus are those who lived beyond the River Sindhu i.e. Indus River. This name is given by the Persians who exchange the sound H for that of S. By this definition any one living on Indian subcontinent is a Hindu. The word is not a religious term.

Gary Feb 18, 2015 03:05am

India was divided on the basis of religion. Muslims and Hindus are different people and cannot live together. That was settled in 1947. Why bring this question now?

Jaya kumar Feb 18, 2015 03:23am

@Dwaraka nath Division on such lines has made Pakistan a failed state and after all do you want to be compared to Pakistan ?

Santosh nair Feb 18, 2015 03:31am

@apoorva, It is Christian churches with their conversion policy through alluring are real threat to the peaceful society. They really spoil the atmosphere.by using the pumped money from the west.

Cyrus Ho Feb 18, 2015 04:05am

The hungry millions and tens of millions will be on the march like army ants in another 75 years, devouring everything in their path. All the vegetation will be eaten unless the ants are destroyed with the atomic insect bombs. "Man is conceived in sin and born into iniquity."

Cyrus Ho Feb 18, 2015 04:05am

@Abdul kadir

Exactly.

Imran K Feb 18, 2015 04:13am

Most definitely India is for the Hindu, Muslims are only tolerated.

south india Feb 18, 2015 04:17am

Muslims are our friends and we love them, cheers.

Cyrus Ho Feb 18, 2015 04:32am

Welcome to the New Normal.

Whistle Feb 18, 2015 04:34am

@zak At last, a sensible comment form ZAK

Whistle Feb 18, 2015 04:37am

@Dwaraka nath

Is it written in any scripts, like Vedas or Upanishads? Hinduism is a culture originally, but transformed into a religion over a period. So be more sensible by saying India (Hindustan) is only belongs to Hindus (Even true Hindus won't agree that).

Modi Feb 18, 2015 04:46am

YES, thats why we had partition. Hindustan for Hindus and Pakistan for Muslims. If muslims stayed in India, becoz they loved it, its donot change the reason of formation of the two different country based on Religion.

shahzad Feb 18, 2015 05:32am

@Abhai well said.

Pardesi Feb 18, 2015 05:34am

Totally agree with the author, trying to change history to suit religious needs is dangerous and counter productive. Whether the right wing Hindus like it or not India has been enriched by various empires/kingdoms/religions/countries (British/Central Asian Khan's) to what it is today. Believing in myths that talk about Ram Rajya and recreating history to suit these myths however beloved to the average Hindu is irresponsible and as mentioned before a major threat to the nation. The Hindu's themselves were invaders from central asia that brought the religion to a mostly African/Dravidian ethnicity who were treated as infidels and non-believers. The remnants of this ancient original ethnicity are the tribal folks. All Pakistani's and Indians are a mix of ethnicity groups that migrated first from Africa and then central Asia. For confirmation look at the mirror and ask yourself whether you are African or Caucasian, you should get back an answer stating "neither" or "both". The current BJP needs to learn from its past. Even today it is rejected in South India because of its Hindu bias. If the BJP does not disassociate itself from its right wing Hindu wing it will never be a national party and never recognized by the entire nation as representation.

shahzad Feb 18, 2015 05:38am

@Arshad F. Khan you just proved teo nation theory to be a flop. Very well said.

tj Feb 18, 2015 05:50am

Who belong to Kashmir ? Now who belong to India ? Only answer is Indian, no matter from which religion are.

Author, have you try to write up something abt missionary who converted millions and doing in India on name of food and money, and Muslims by force ... When Hindu organization does it, sky fall and everything being under threat. Give all prospective only one side only bcoz hundus are more tolerant n allow their own business?

Ram Narayanan Feb 18, 2015 06:01am

@apoorva : So what....is Hinduism providing dignity and food to the converts? Who are you to forbid them to escape low caste and poverty status which is all they will find in Hinduism. You seem like an upper class rich girl who had it all....naukar chakar etc.

Ram Narayanan Feb 18, 2015 06:03am

@Jitu : Should Dalits stay in Hinduism and get mistreated by upper castes. Will YOU marry a Dalit?

Ram Narayanan Feb 18, 2015 06:04am

@DailyTroll : The word "Hindu" came from the river "Indu," now known as "Indus."

Hillol Feb 18, 2015 06:16am

I dont think there is any thread for minorities in India by RSS. I belong from minor community(Buddhist) . I know many Muslims who r living happily with all communities. Yes ,India is a secular country & there is no doubt if Pakistan was for Muslims and India Can demand as Hindus. But RSS is more safer than other fundamentalist .

rudraiah rajasekhar Feb 18, 2015 06:18am

It is fair to say INDIA belongs to followers of all religions except muslims because they carved a separate nation out of India for Muslims only. It is high time Indians realise the harm caused by Muslims to this country and its secular nature by their two nation theory and creation of Pakistan. Now wants Kashmir on the same basis and because of all this Muslim outlook it is totally agreeable to exclude muslims from multi religious and multilingual India.

rudraiah rajasekhar Feb 18, 2015 06:28am

@Ahmed USA At the time Persians,Arabs and Greeks called Hindu or Hindustan only religion practised was Sanathan dharma, Jainisam and Buddhisam. The Islam was not even born. So let us cut all this bull about everybody is a Hindu.

jj Feb 18, 2015 06:31am

Does India belong to the Hindus alone?

Does Pakistan belong to the Muslims alone?

If not then why the word "Islamic" republic of Pakistan

How would MUslims feel if India was called HIndu republic of India

Get the point ;-))

kumar Feb 18, 2015 06:44am

I wish the answer was yes. There are too many Muslims with no loyalty to India

Babu Feb 18, 2015 06:58am

@Dwaraka nath "If Pakistan is only for Muslims why not India for Hindus?"

Is it still not clear? -Because India is a secular country. Everyone should be free to practice any religion of their choosing. No one has the right to forcibly convert others.

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:01am

@zak "While Pakistan was created as muslim state and only for muslims , India was created as secular state hence it belongs to the world , anybody can come and live in it, hats off to such a nation."

Great comment. Thank you. Now if only Indians would practice secularism to the letter, and curb hate mongering, it would be a much better place.

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:04am

@logic "So Islamic Republic of Pakistan is OK but not Hindu Republic of India Is that not the basis of Jinnah's two nation theory?"

Jinnah was worried about how Muslims would fare in India hence he wanted Pakistan which went on (after his death) to declare itself a Muslim state. India decided to remain secular with all of its minorities and continues to remain so (despite skirmishes that are bound to happen every now and then in a pluralistic society).

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:07am

@damoo "surely. hindustan is for hindus . here no one said that there is no place for muslims etc..,but all muslims are living very peacefully and enjoying all previlages and reservations etc. but it is our duty to protect our culture and our vaarasatv. so there is no fault at all in declaring hindustan as country of hindus . here even abdul kalam is muslim,but we never shown partiality,and here no common people think about difference."

Hindustan is for Hindus and for everyone else. That's what secularism means. Not just for the majority population whatever it might be.

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:13am

@ninurtha "It is bharathavarsha ,hence jagir of great king bharat hence should belong only to sons of bharat."

Anyone who is born and lives in Bharatvarsha is a sone of Bharat - get it?

Akil Akhtar Feb 18, 2015 07:15am

@Abdul kadir 200 million muslims in a population of 1.2 billion is around 16% which means it has not grown.

Akil Akhtar Feb 18, 2015 07:17am

@nimesh ISIS are called terrorists so you are saying these are also terrorists in India who are responsible

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:17am

@Abhi "@Abdul kadir If you really want to spread love then accept that all ways and means of worship is true. Let me see whether you really wanna spread Love or just being hypocritical like others."

Strange comment. How do you know he doesn't accept 'all ways and means of worship is true'?

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:24am

@Shamsher Singh Bajwa "@damoo Hindustan is not for Hindus. Hindustan is for Indians. It belongs to all belongs to all Indians regardless of their culture, religious, or ethnic background. If you want hindu raj you are more than welcome to pack your bags and move to Nepal. This is my country!"

Nepal, which used to be the only Hindu Rashtra in the world has now also become secular. So now Damoo has no place to go!

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:28am

@Arshad F. Khan - you called it like it is - a spade is a spade. We share the same hypocrisy (and hopefully some positive traits as well). If only we could compete in areas of nation building, both countries would be so much better off.....

Ranjankanti Bhattacharjee Feb 18, 2015 07:30am

@Dipak Singh Right, Dipak! But common perception is different.

Human Feb 18, 2015 07:31am

@Aam Pakistani How many non-muslim politicians, artists, sportsmen and other famous personalities does Pak have? Please name few if you can!

Rao Feb 18, 2015 07:32am

@Aam Pakistani ....To me it looks like the present day Pakistan is a country only for Sunni Muslims. Others are not to be treated as equal citizens, if they cannot be eliminated from the land of pure.

The changes that happened in Pakistan after 1947 point to this. Ahmadis are declared non-Muslims. Shias are regularly targeted by suicide bombers in their mosques. Blasphemy laws are used to target other minorities like Christians, Hindus, Parsis etc.

Ranjankanti Bhattacharjee Feb 18, 2015 07:32am

@Tranquil We Indians know that and we feel pity for you.

Babu Feb 18, 2015 07:33am

Hark the words of the poet:

Where the mind is without fear and the head is held high Where knowledge is free Where the world has not been broken up into fragments By narrow domestic walls Where words come out from the depth of truth Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way Into the dreary desert sand of dead habit Where the mind is led forward by thee Into ever-widening thought and action Into that heaven of freedom, my Father, let my country awake. -R. Tagore

Abdul Nasir Jamal Feb 18, 2015 07:36am

@Dwaraka nath agreed, just don't call yourself secular. That is the problem, you pretend to the whole world that you are a secular country but the deep inside everyone of you hate Muslims and Christian.

Modi Feb 18, 2015 07:42am

@Ahmed USA its funny. Word Secular was added in 1980's by Indra Gandhi in India's constitution.But the India was formed based on religion for Hindus (Sikh's, Buddisht we count them as our brothers as they have same teachings) . When muslims stayed in India they choose it becoz of love towards there motherland India. its highly appreciated. But history cant be rewritten, and that the truth mate. India for hindus and Pakistan for Muslims that was two countries were formed in 1947. You Can google it

Modi Feb 18, 2015 07:46am

@surprised Word Secular was added in 1980's by Indra Gandhi in India's constitution.But the India was formed based on religion for Hindus (Sikh's, Buddisht we count them as our brothers as they have same teachings) . When muslims stayed in India they choose it becoz of love towards there motherland India. its highly appreciated. But history cant be rewritten, and that the truth mate. India for hindus and Pakistan for Muslims that was two countries were formed in 1947. You Can google it

Niceanand Feb 18, 2015 07:48am

Mr. Punyani, if tribals are not associated with any religion, how come 98% of north east is Christian? Hint: missionaries.

Abdul Nasir Jamal Feb 18, 2015 07:59am

@Abhai no big deal, problem is when you force them.

manish Feb 18, 2015 07:59am

@Tranquil its terrorist country

Abdul Nasir Jamal Feb 18, 2015 08:02am

@Ajay vikram Singh and you still belive Muslims are treated fairly. Come on shining india. This what we as Pakistani trying to show the real picture of India to the world.

Mustafa J. Feb 18, 2015 08:09am

Excellent eye opener article. This should be sent to all Mr. Modi's friends in Europe and Americas specially to President Obama and also to news papers such as New York Times, Washington Post, Toronto Star and others to show hidden picture of the greatest democracy in the world.

Amit Feb 18, 2015 08:10am

Looks are given by god but education, skills, and intelligence can only be acquired by hard work and diligence. In the corporate world and civil life, I have seen so many average looking but extremely intelligent people doing great things be it Dr. Abdul Kalam, Narayan Murthy, Shiv Nadar and tons of others. To me, looks do matter but intelligence matters way more.

sporting spirit Feb 18, 2015 08:13am

Now write an article about state of hindus in SECULAR Pakistan . so readers can judge you

Laughing Gas Feb 18, 2015 08:18am

Let's all take a deep breath. As imperfect the democracy in India may seem ....it is a democracy nonetheless. The country remains largely pluralistic and secular in outlook. The large majority of Indians especially the newly empowered and upwardly mobile urban middle class have neither the time nor the inclination to be bothered by old societal norms. Take a look at call centers, malls, offices etc etc ....... the Indian youth is caught up in an aspirational upward cycle. They don't really care if their colleague, neighbor or classmate is a Muslim, Hindu, or Christian. I phones, mobiles, foreign vacations, clothes etc are more important. Technology and media are rapidly breaking down the old societal hierarchy or making it irrelevant. The RSS remains a fringe element at best and hardly has any echo beyond its traditional support areas. The majority of Indians neither care nor do they have time for this nonsense.

sohail anjum Feb 18, 2015 08:27am

@mimi sur how about kashmir then what makes you hold that territory

Rob Feb 18, 2015 08:28am

@Abdul

Your point may be right, but your numbers are not.

What is today India had about 12.5% Muslims before partition. It dropped to about 10.5% by 1951 census due to the 7 million people crossing in each direction (not counting the dead). The Muslim population per 2011 census was close to 14.5%. Where do you get your 22% from. No need to stretch the facts if the point is valid without such stretching.

Siddhartha Shastri Feb 18, 2015 08:32am

@zak-i-chan - Gautam Buddha, the founder of Buddhism, is considered to be the ninth incarnation of Vishnu in Hindu mythology. The religion was founded within the geography of India, and therefore Hindus are comfortable with its presence in their midst. I was born a Hindu, and my first name happens to be the same that Buddha was born with. Nobody ever thought this was something special, confusing, or weird. Just the way things are in India.

Rose Patel Feb 18, 2015 08:34am

First poof Hinduism is a religion

Sanjay Feb 18, 2015 08:45am

India belongs to people of all faith including Islam...

Sharath Chandra Feb 18, 2015 09:02am

No, It certainly does not ! But this is what Jinnah said.

alex Feb 18, 2015 09:04am

frankly speaking. once separated from INDIA on bases of religion and making pakistan a Muslim state, you have no right to decide for whom INDIA belongs to. its the decision to be taken by INDIANS. and please don't see every topic with the seek spectacles of religion!

human Feb 18, 2015 09:09am

I think Jinnah and his followers will reply better.

The Indian Guy Feb 18, 2015 09:15am

Obviously no! Its a Secular state so is pakistan !

aam aadmiA Feb 18, 2015 09:31am

does pakistan belongs to sunni muslims alone???

Srikanth Feb 18, 2015 09:32am

Heartening to see my indian muslim brothers speaking about our unity . Modi has given a statement today that he will stand by the country to ensure that no section gets hurt in any way and that he will stand for the interests of the minorities . We cast our votes for the development agenda . VHP also tried reining in its elements yesterday by not making comments which could put PM in a fixture. India is one such nation in which what ever any one does to harm its diversity , it will revolt , it will fight and it will succeed as the only nation where a muslim like abdul kalam can become the president , manmohan a sikh can become the pm , hamid ansari a muslim can become the vice president , where christians enjoy a healthy growth ratio and a zoroastrian can become the supreme court judge ! It is a nation with diversity in its DNA . Can i in this generation and generations to come imagine a only Hindu india ? Yes ... A Hindu is a word which applies to every person living on this side of the Indus river . The britishers named the "Santana Dharma" Hindus not for the relligion but for the geography and hence technically all pakistanis are also Hindus :) Peace for the World Brothers and sisters :) Just Peace ....

Sangram Feb 18, 2015 09:32am

India does not belongs to a particular religion. This is a kind of nation where Muslim become President of India(Zakir Hussain), Successful captain of indian cricket team(Azhar), captain of Indian hokey Team after Dhyanchand(Zafar Iqbal), Most revered scientist (Dr. abdul Kalam), most loved film star(Dlip Kumar, Madhubala, Sayarabanu, wahida rahman, SRK, Amir, Salman etc), Paramvir Chakra Abdul Hamid (soldier) , similary we have no of decorated persons from all religion who has served and made india proud in various field.

sanjay Feb 18, 2015 09:33am

The census figure of christian population is misleading. Many converts do not enlist as Christians as they loose the benefits of affirmative actions like educational& employment reservations , land allotments and scholarships etc. Many evangelical organizations quote Christian population at 25% , this is bit exaggerating , but reliable estimates put christian population in India at 15% which is more than Muslim population. In India there at present 5 Christian Chief ministers against 1 Muslim Chief minister(J&K-yet to announced).

Narendra Prabhu Feb 18, 2015 09:37am

@Raheel Hinduism is not a belief system, however if you insist it is as follows: "There are many true paths , I respect You, hence I don't want to change your beliefs" if you practice any religion Hindu is the last person to object, Hindus don't insult religions or prophets

UNNIKRISHNAN Feb 18, 2015 09:39am

India will never go the Pakistan way as far as religious Torrence is concerned.

gupta Feb 18, 2015 09:43am

Also, what is wrong in converting people back? This guy Puniyani gave half-hearted one line comment that they already left than why re-convert?? What does he know about individuals who are getting reconverted, may be some of them want to come back. Either stop conversion or it will be two way, is it that difficult to understand. Hindus are good at changing, if others do not change for better, they will have to change for a little worse. But their worse will still help people of south asia to become better. If Hindus were not here in South Asia, you were guaranteed to be as good as Arab world by now, irrespective of whether you had 9/11 or not, Russian invasion or not.

Himanshu Feb 18, 2015 09:45am

I will quote Mr. M.J. Akbar on this :- After partition Indians got India or Hindustanis got Hindustan not Hindu's got India might be Muslims may have got Pakistan. The Muslims who kept in mind the same decided to go ahead with India and preferred to be in India and Muslims who had faith in idea of two nation theory for two lands for two religions preferred for new nation called Pakistan. Unfortunately or fortunately two nation theory proved to be wrong and now if somebody claims India for Hindu's is the person who doesn't know the reality. Reality is India is for every person who belongs to this land and has faith in rich 4000 year old culture of the land...

Sudhanshu Swami Feb 18, 2015 09:46am

@zak-i-chan As per Indian constitution, Sikh,Jain, Buddhists, Sanatan dharmi (known as Hindu) are called Hindus. Hindu is geographical term. Any religion which have roots in India is part of Hinduism. These are called Dharmic religion. In fact Hinduism (Sanatan Dharm) itself is subset of Hinduism.

Himanshu Feb 18, 2015 09:47am

@mimi sur :- Mimi two nation theory has already failed in 1971 ....

Akshay Feb 18, 2015 09:49am

Does Pakistan belong to Muslims only?

Akshay Feb 18, 2015 09:52am

@zak Have you gone mad?

Akshay Feb 18, 2015 09:57am

@zak-i-chan We do not consider Buddhism, Jainism, Sikhism as different religions. Instead we consider these faiths as the different branch of a great tree.

Kalyan Feb 18, 2015 10:05am

@mimi sur that may be your theory. Indians have lived peacefully with all religions for ages and would live so in future too

Gaurav Arya Feb 18, 2015 10:05am

After indépendance, Muslims got Pakistan and secular people got India. India does not belong to Hindus. It belongs to everyone who lives there. The BJP and its allies got a taste of India's thinking in Delhi elections. If they understand what Indians want and heed the lessons that Delhi gave them, they will flourish. If they choose to ignore the signs, then only God can help them.

Kalyan Feb 18, 2015 10:06am

@Dwaraka nath Because India is not Pakistan and Indians are proud to be different from pakistanis in this regard

yogi Feb 18, 2015 10:06am

India belongs 2 all Indians,of any religion

Pal Feb 18, 2015 10:08am
  • Does Pakistan belongs to Muslims Only?

  • Does Iraq belongs to Muslims Only?

  • Does Syria belongs to Muslims Only?

DV Feb 18, 2015 10:10am

@itrat khaliq, No agreed with your opinion, Just Google it and have more knowledge before make any comment on Hinduism.... Hinduism in not as you outlined it...!

Faateh Feb 18, 2015 10:16am

Its true about India, but what about in Pakistan? where we have constitutionally declared this an Islamic state. Is Pakistan just for Muslims? According to our constitution it is. Our constitution restrains the minorities from becoming president or PM, or COAS. I think is better if we look in our deeds.

Tarannum S. Feb 18, 2015 10:19am

No way. India is a secular nation where we have equal rights as Hindus do. However, irrespective of what the common perception may be, I have lived with Hindus throughout my life and they are the most tolerant community you can ever come across. Never in my life, I felt any different from other religions in India. Live in India to believe it.

Ali Feb 18, 2015 10:24am

at mimi sur - according to 2 nation theory yes you are right - but according to this theory all muslim majority areas are for Pakistan :P thats almost 20% of current India

sharabi Feb 18, 2015 10:29am

Yes i am a Hindu by Culture but my faith is ISLAM

Kumar Feb 18, 2015 10:38am

@Dwaraka nath Because India has about 23% of Muslim population and 15% other minorities, besides Pakistan has only 3% minorities, of which 1% Hindu. Due to all that facts Pakistan Govenrment and public respect the minorities and giving them equal rights in every means of life

rajendra asthana Feb 18, 2015 10:40am

@ Ram Puniyani, Are Hindus itinerant wanderers with no land to call their own? Enough humiliation and slavery from 711 A.D. to 1806 AD.Only Jews and Hindus have suffered extreme penury, humiliation, and Subjection through brute force of religious fanaticism through mass murders, rapine, loot, and enslavement of millions of their co-religionists. Yes Bharat that is India, is Hindus fatherland and religious-land. And never shall it fall again to foreigners. Be ready for an Armageddon.

Harsh Feb 18, 2015 10:47am

INDIA is for all Indians regardless of what Pakistan was created for or who it is for. There is no need to compare India with the worse examples. The word Hindu denotes the cultural aspect of the people known as 'Indians' which in anthropology is used to describe all the peoples of Indian subcontinent and some in central Asia. Indians includes all Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans, Nepalese and majority of Pashtuns of Pakistan who have been proved to have the same gene pool as majority of Indians whether they accept it or not. The external climate dependent characteristics of humans undergo changes in as short a period as 700 years but the gene pool refers to blood relations and common ancestral lines within a span of 2000 years.

SKZ Feb 18, 2015 10:48am

After reading comments of my Indian Friends, its quite surprising to note that Most of the Indians agree with Two Nation Theory i.e. India for Hindus and a separate country for Muslims - Pakistan !

Free Thinker Feb 18, 2015 10:59am

For our Pakistani brothers... Absolutely India is not only for Hindus, of course I am a Hindu BRAHMAN but can not imagine my country without other religion. Even in our social function every community have some role. During marriage function dress materials of Hindu bride and grooms are being prepared by Muslims tailors, and still veh for them are being decorated by Christian. This is the beauty......

Euro Feb 18, 2015 11:00am

Depends on who you ask. My Muslim friend from Alighar would disagre. The Muslims living in refugee camps outside Muzaffarnagar, the Muslims of Gujarat and the Kashmiris will agree.

Dipak Feb 18, 2015 11:16am

How is Gov. Taseer's killer Quadry making out?

Poorman Feb 18, 2015 11:17am

Pakistan is not only for Muslims, we have other minorities living in peace without any fear of being forced to conversions. Pak and India has no comparison, India has a total population of approx. 1.25 billion where 250 millions are only Muslims which is again the largest Muslim population as compared to Pakistan's population of 180 million. So, preaching for a religion is a right of every human being along as it is not being forced or influenced. It should remains one's choice!

Moody Blue Feb 18, 2015 11:25am

@Rajiv Baruah So, you subscribe to Jinnah's theory? Remember his so-called theory was the reason for Partition which most Indians (including Muslims) rejected.

Poorman Feb 18, 2015 11:27am

@Ajay vikram Singh What do you mean to say? seems like your country is working closely on the patterns of religious hatred and biasness. We have Hindus living here but they are above the line of poverty as compared to 90% of Muslim population. Yes, they are on key level Gov.t positions aswell.

Altaf Hussain Feb 18, 2015 11:32am

@Tranquil Pakistan doesn't claim so you can do anything against minorities of pakistan.is it what you want to convey.

Altaf Hussain Feb 18, 2015 11:33am

As per Jinnah's two nation theory, India is a Hindu nation, without exception. Why Pakistani muslims have any problem with this.

Sandeep Singh Feb 18, 2015 11:34am

@SKZ There is no point of agreeing and disagree while Partition is already happened on this theory basis. Why cry now.

Sandeep Singh Feb 18, 2015 11:36am

@Abdul Nasir Jamal & Muslims never force their religion on others.. Are you sure?

Moody Blue Feb 18, 2015 11:40am

People may have a religion but three things should be kept in mind. It is an invention by man; it is learned and transmitted; not part of one's DNA. And,land definitely does not have a religion except perhaps the one bestowed by some Supreme "Creator" whose natural laws apply equally to all Creation, not just one small self-important species on a tiny speck of an insignificant planet in the almost infinite Uni/Multiverse.

Zak Feb 18, 2015 11:51am

@Neeraj you appear to be decent person out of 850m of your co religionists

Zak Feb 18, 2015 11:53am

@G. Din when faced with the truth, pretend it's humour. Otherwise it may lead to chronic depression of realism.

Pankaj Feb 18, 2015 11:55am

"Ghar Baapsi" is a revolutionary concept. Pakistanis need it more than Indians. Once back to their secular hindu faith, they will also start progressing.

Zak Feb 18, 2015 11:55am

@yogi the few good are speaking up, like yourself.

Vasan Feb 18, 2015 11:58am

Fist of all "Majority Muslim" countries respects other religious faith ?

Can anyone allowed to build Temples , Churches, or Synagogs in Muslim countries ?

It is sensitive issue to discuss.

piyush Feb 18, 2015 11:58am

Does Pakistan belong to Sunnis alone?

Tombraiderkafir Feb 18, 2015 12:01pm

@Abdul kadir No, i think its 14% some of them also includes illegal immigrants from bangladesh.

abdulrafe Feb 18, 2015 12:01pm

If the situation continued its repercussions will be dangerous. Our past speaks loudly that when such attempts has been made, result was counter productive. It is the duty of united nation as well Indian government to ban RSS. Otherwise, if RSS would not stop counter attempts will be made in other countries where they are in dominant position.

Neha Feb 18, 2015 12:12pm

Why don't these writers ask its own people Is Pakistan only for Sunni Muslims?

Modi Feb 18, 2015 12:14pm

Does Pakistan belongs to Punjabi Sunni's Alone?

Neha Feb 18, 2015 12:14pm

@Poorman Good joke Sir. Please open your eyes and mind and try to see the reality.. It is completely opposite.

gupta Feb 18, 2015 12:14pm

@Ahmed USA they call themselves sanatan dharma, none of their books know what Hinduism is... that word is what Al Biruni etc used for Sanatan Dhrama... it is not only oldest religion but it is only religion whose adherents have more in common than adherents of other religion without having any common book/prophet.. because their ideas are more subtle than most other religion could produce, even 1000 years after them...

krishan Gopal Feb 18, 2015 12:19pm

India is for Indians...all the people who love India as their motherland are the children of this country... and those who do not consider India their motherland should better leave the country...

jakoji Feb 18, 2015 12:27pm

No.. Infact Hinduism should destroy its caste system & become more like Buddhism.. It should also tackle superstition and encourage critical thinking.. Its time for Hinduism 2.0

Sunil Feb 18, 2015 12:30pm

The debate is a good time pass till we have a "secular democratic constitution"

Tombraider Feb 18, 2015 12:31pm

@Riaz The positive in india when compared to pakistan is that the liberals in hindu community are much larger and stronger than extremists unlike in pak and that is why india has still not become a hindu pakistan.Also bjp lost delhi elections for diverting from economic issues and will lose again in subsequent elections if some of their Mps keep inciting hatred against minorities and refuse to protect minorities.so i dont think there is a threat to any minorities as long as india remains a democracy.India will only become a hindu pakistan if the indian army stages a coup like in pakistan and tries to spread deeply intolarant ideology against minorities.

Suhail Feb 18, 2015 12:43pm

"Interestingly, as per the national population census the percentage of Christians showed a slight decline from 2.60 per cent in 1971 to 2.30 per cent in 2001." - I believe it must be total share of Christians in Indian population. What is the overall percentage increase in Christian population in these three decades?

mohilary Feb 18, 2015 12:57pm

India is belongs to all indian including muslim, christant, hindu, seikh, bathow, sonatan,

Prashant Kumar Feb 18, 2015 01:07pm

@mimi sur No its not..

Nishant Feb 18, 2015 01:08pm

Its surprising to see so many Indian commenters endorsing the RSS ideology. I hope they don't mean what they are saying.

By history and by our constitution, India belongs to all. This is not even debatable!

Kumar Feb 18, 2015 01:15pm

Don't worry our beloved neighbours....India belongs to all patriotic Indians ... Irrespective of their religion. Just remember next election is 4 years away. If we can bring them to power, we can also shunt them out... Just like we did with congress ...and also BJP in Delhi.

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 01:20pm

As far as I know Stan is a Persian word for State. I wonder why the Sanskrit word for State is not resorted to. Moreover the same sound would come from Hynd. Does it have to come from Hind? Some experts advice is called for to enlighten me.

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 01:22pm

@Ahmed USA As far as I know Stan is a Persian word for State. I wonder why the Sanskrit word for State is not resorted to. Moreover the same sound would come from Hynd. Does it have to come from Hind? Some experts advice is called for to enlighten me.

Sanjay Guha Feb 18, 2015 01:28pm

@Ahmed USA The term Hindu classifies all people who believe in Sanatana Dharma and worship Vishnu, Shiva and other Hindu deities. That happens across castes

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 01:39pm

@logic Hindu Republic of India like the Islamic Republic of Pakistan might just turn out to be neither Hindu, nor Republic nor India like the later is neither Islamic nor Republic nor Pakistan. Ignoring the discontent with civilization can be fatal.

southram Feb 18, 2015 01:46pm

@Kumar I agree. India is the only country where almost all people respect each other irrespective of caste, creed, religion, race, colour. There are few trouble mongers in every country so we also have these bad guys. However, when the majority sees this as a real disruption to India's secular credentials, I bet, PEOPLE WILL VOTE THEM OUT OF POWER. India's democratic credentials cannot be questioned by anyone, where ballot is always powerful than the bullet.

Nitin Feb 18, 2015 01:47pm

No way !!

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 01:50pm

All religions have originated at different stages of evolution for specific purposes. Beyond that stage, changes are unavoidable.

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 01:55pm

Are religions/cultures meant to be static or dynamic?

Keti Zilgish Feb 18, 2015 02:02pm

Its about time to replace two nation or two state (as is being painfully understood in present day Middle East) theories with no nation and no state theories. The structure of organizations in the later would be horizontal rather than vertical as is presently in the former.

Ramesh Feb 18, 2015 02:09pm

"India is secular because Hindus are secular" - Madam Sonia Gandhi.

ssW Feb 18, 2015 02:18pm

The Abrahamic religions have dominated every country they have entered.The rulers from these religions also ruled India for many years.But they were unable to conquer the hearts and minds of most Indians ,who did not cave in to their threats or lures,hence a majority of India has retained the local religion/s.For those, whose ancestors accepted these foreign faiths ,whether by choice,greed or cowardice , they should stop conversions and protect the fragile communal harmony.Now it is realised places like Mizoram which had no christians earlier are suddenly 85 % christian.The hindu feels betrayed and is hurt.

valiya Feb 18, 2015 02:19pm

@Ahmed USA Then what is wrong in calling India is for Hindus as you are telling all indians are Hindus.

Vineet Feb 18, 2015 02:24pm

India is referred to as Hindustan....which is combination of two words...i,e Hindu + stan...which means "place for hindus"....So yes it is for Hindus...

Question should be What is the definition of Hindus in Hindustan?.

Is it a follower of Hinds religion? Is it a follower of Hindu culture which is bigger than religion? Is it a person living in this part of the land which is called Hindustan that is why the person is called Hindu?

Neera Kolachi Feb 18, 2015 02:31pm

For all those who are saying NO and Muslim population is increasing in India, first ask your self "Is Pakistan only for Muslims" ?

Harmony Feb 18, 2015 03:11pm

@Dwaraka nath - "If Pakistan is only for Muslims why not India for Hindus?" It looks like many in India think like you (from recommendations). This is what the writer fears. Hindutva forces are taking hold in 'shining India' not.

Harsh Feb 18, 2015 03:15pm

@Keti Zilgish : Stan in old Avestan language or Sthan in Sanskrit are the same. Old Avestan which is the ancestor of Persian language and Sanskrit were very similar language born out of the same language.

Harmony Feb 18, 2015 03:18pm

@Suvamoy - "@Dwarakaa majority of Indians reject your views". Unfortunately, a voting process on comments proves otherwise. The writer seems to be right.

Nadeem Feb 18, 2015 03:23pm

Time and again we see the Two Nation Theory proven right!

vijay, Salem Feb 18, 2015 03:27pm

@Tranquil good idea

indian Feb 18, 2015 03:38pm

@Indian so what's the big deal? Are they forcing you to join them? Religion is a personal choice.

ROHIT PANDEY Feb 18, 2015 03:41pm

@Raheel That is RIGHT....there is nothing called one Hindu religion.

But,yes,over the centuries, the largely unorganized faith is coalescing into a strong identity...it is now becoming congruent with the identity as an Indian?:)

ROHIT PANDEY Feb 18, 2015 03:51pm

The most powerful weapon in hands of Hindus is SECULARISM and the inherent accommodating nature of Hindus to provide a strong political plank for it.

Through thousands of years of Indian history there was NEVER an attempt to make Hinduism a political ideology.

Indians are least likely to discard secularism just when the soft power of India is on the ascent-part of the reason for it is practice of secularism?

In the Islamic world,an army is sometimes mandated to "protect" secularism.....and even that seems to be teetering ! And,I am talking about Turkey!:):)

James Martell Feb 18, 2015 03:54pm

In India you have a population of 1.27 billion. 23 per cent of them are muslim that equates to roughly 300 million muslims, out of these and excluding Kashmir how many of them are have been elected not placed to India parliament? This should tell you whether India is for Hinduism or is multi cultured?

irene Feb 18, 2015 04:06pm

Religion is a matter of faith. Worship God in any manner you like. God does not need religion. Hinduism itself preaches that there are several ways of reaching God. So let people who respect the faith of Hinduism remain in it, others can choose whatever they want. converting a few people does not make any difference to any religion.

apoorva Feb 18, 2015 04:13pm

@tashu absolutely!!!

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:50pm

@damoo our state has no religion it is secular all religions can have a place here and do have yes majority consists of Hindus.

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:51pm

@Dwaraka nath Because our country is secular and it is the salient feature of our constitution

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:51pm

@Ajeet it is also called India

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:54pm

@Dipak Singh Every body is Indian here

Jatt Feb 18, 2015 04:54pm

@Abdul That 9% was based on a large Hindu population in East Pakistan namely Bangaldesh, they are still there and account for 12% of the population, they have not disappeared, use some sense.

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:55pm

@Prakash excellent that is why we are progressing despite so much diversity still there is a unity.

mrme Feb 18, 2015 04:55pm

@logic NO! not in that context.

Manjeet kocchar Feb 18, 2015 04:56pm

@Prasad and we will not allow them we will preserve our secular credentials fiercely that is one of our biggest asset and perhaps the cause of our development. Minorities have helped in development of India as much as majority

Jatt Feb 18, 2015 04:57pm

@ajabbar Yet you are still not accepted by your own indians. Read the comments of Indians here who all seem to insist that India is a Hindu country.

mrme Feb 18, 2015 05:00pm

@apoorva Muslims of india are generally poorer than hindus or even other followers. This in turn leads to illiteracy and higher birthrates amongst them. So, thinking that Muslims are flourishing in india proven by numbers would not be more than a dull act of self appreciation imo.

IBN E ASHFAQUE Feb 18, 2015 05:23pm

@Dwaraka nath Thanks finally acceptance of the two nation theory.

TrollMeNot Feb 18, 2015 05:58pm

@Abdul Nasir Jamal no one is forced. The highest conversions in India are made by missionaries and they target poor and tribals in India. Christian conversion is done at a organizational level and Christians are richest community in India (per capita income). Muslim conversion is is unorganized and few half-learned people are involved. RSS is trying to bring home back only the first generation converted people and not those who were born with a different religion.

Sandeep Singh Feb 18, 2015 06:08pm

India is a Hindu Rashtra where Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism and Janism are State religion. Rest are secondary.

awinash Feb 18, 2015 06:16pm

The Partition of India in 1947 was a result of the Muslims clamouring for a separate nation based on religion. The basic understanding was that Pakistan would be a Muslim land and India a Hindu one. Pakistanis, however seem overly concerned about isolated incidents against minorities in India while turning a blind eye to their own horrendous record against minorities in Pakistan.

Nomadic Feb 18, 2015 06:25pm

THIS MOVEMENT IS FOCUSSED on CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES who are converting ppl in large numbers .......

we wanted law against convesion induced by financial benifits, but missionaries didnt agree so we too have started the process of reconversions

Nomadic Feb 18, 2015 06:29pm

hidden christian population is numerous, statistics do lie

Nomadic Feb 18, 2015 06:31pm

plz dont worry abt muslim population in india.........

btw hindu accounted fr 30% in undivided pakistan during independence , what happened to those numbers

BlackHat Feb 18, 2015 07:03pm

@sharabi:

Yes i am a Hindu by Culture but my faith is ISLAM. That is what makes india beautiful and interesting. Even geography has conspired to make India what it is. India should actually be a desert like the Sahara, Arabia and Iran. It is the monsoon that makes India green and of pleasant weather. It is the monsoon that made India rich, which in turn attracted millions to migrate and call India their home. It does not matter what people shout, India will always be home to those who call her home, irrespective of their religion, race or language. That is why she is called Mother India.

PakiHindu Feb 18, 2015 07:20pm

Dear Pakistanis, please focus on minorities in your own country.

E.Somapalan Feb 18, 2015 07:54pm

@BlackHat I fully agree , nothing is going to change our secular nature, even Muslims cannot do it, forget Hindus and others.

vivek singh Feb 18, 2015 11:05pm

@zak no one can live here only hindus sikh jain and Buddhism can live

Mohit Feb 19, 2015 12:06am

@mimi sur And where in our constitution do we subscribe to this theory.

Anirudh Singh Feb 19, 2015 02:31am

@Abdul kadir indeed India is a secular country, These guys thinks that Muslims in India is suffering but as you are an Indian Muslim you must know that our country is a secular one and we are living peacefully and progressing in a rapid speed . yeah some minute problems occur at someplaces,but you know the reality. So chill brother.

Anirudh Singh Feb 19, 2015 02:33am

@Abhishek Thakur well said Bhai , you just enlightened me ;-)

Sid Feb 19, 2015 02:51am

No sir, my India is not only for Hindus. But it is for people who identifies themselves as Indians and take pride in that identity. For those who do not, no matter whether they are Hindus or Muslims, they need not be in India, we would not miss them.

LS Feb 19, 2015 03:42am

@Tranquil his claim is as good as anyone's. What matters is "What does the constitution says" and it defines India as a secular state.

LS Feb 19, 2015 03:49am

@mimi sur According to Constitution of India, India is for Indians of all religions.

Ishan Feb 19, 2015 07:12am

We cannot be another Pakistan....

Manjeet kocchar Feb 19, 2015 08:45am

@Sandeep Singh. Shocked by it ignorance

Kaly Feb 19, 2015 09:32am

@Tarannum S. - Thanks a lot....

Varntvar Feb 19, 2015 11:00am

The word "Hindu" is the problem... The adivasis were never sanatanis... Neither were they caste Hindus... However their culture is tightly linked to things like stories of Ramayan and Mahabharat and is part of the indigenous cultural mainstream... Supreme Court in various orders since Independence has categorized most asivasi tribes as 'natively' Hindu... There are many tribes, especially in the north east, that have converted to Christianity... But even they are natively Hindu... Which means if a person does not explicitly declare that he is a Christian, by default he is a Hindu... What RSS is trying to do, is to create it legally possible to comeback to your native status if anyone wants to... What's wrong?

Having said that, all violence is wrong... Always... Anyone attacking another person or property must be brought to justice.

GR Feb 19, 2015 11:24am

I am frankly surprised that these conversion programs are being talked about so much. No one is holding a gun to their head to convert. It is the poor that convert. Christian missionaries have been going after the poorer section of the societies for years by promising them a lot of things. Muslims have done it in other ways but mainly funded by the Saudis. So if the Hindus do the same by promising the poor something, why is it a big deal. What does forced mean? Having said that, what one does at home is ones own business. As Hindus you are not forced to pray. As a hindu, I have gone to mosques and churches. So conversion doesn't mean anything.

rahul1 Feb 19, 2015 12:08pm

@Mohammed Exactly, the word 'Hindoo' is grossly misunderstood. This term was coined by Middle East invaders to identify people east of Indus - be it Punjabi, Bihari or Bangla. So technically, the term represents ALL people of South Asia - irrespective of religion followed. Hindoos who adopted Islam faith (or were forced to) have started differentiating themselves from Hindoos - people of South Asia -which is unfortunate

Mohit Sharma Feb 19, 2015 01:05pm

no....

Mohit Sharma Feb 19, 2015 01:14pm

India doesnt belong to hindus only for sure however at least pakistanis have no right to ask or comment over this point since they have created the theocratic state for themselves.

Dear PK Friends Feb 19, 2015 03:34pm

This is a convoluted question... Pakistan is for Muslims and India is for Indians... you dont need to be Hindu to be Indian.... Thats the basic principle behind the formation of this nation... It has been a pluralistic society for thousands of years and shall remain so... The average indian doesnt care about the other person's religion... India is the most diverse country on this planet... shall remain so... you know why ??? because the civil society is strong enough to guide the political idiots in the right path... period....

Harisingh Feb 20, 2015 12:03am

I used to believe in an open multi-cultural secular country. Not anymore after seeing the violence that has been ongoing since the last 1000 years.

A better question to ask is does Pakistan belong to Muslims only. How about Saudi Arabia, does it belong to Muslims only? Or how about Syria and Iraq do they also belong to Muslims only?

The ground reality definitely shows that non-muslims are not welcome in these countries. So why shouldn't other religions protect their own religion?

Sanjay Guha Feb 20, 2015 08:33am

@Imran Sorry, it's mostly some political parties which thrive on Muslim vote banks that have been saying India is secular. In the last 65 years India has not been secular. It's only Narendra Modi who is now talking of inclusive politics where religion is a personal choice and separated by politics.

Well Said Feb 20, 2015 03:31pm

The answer is no. India belongs to all Indians of all faiths. However I do not understand this selective chest beating by these fake intellectuals. If Christians can convert people of other faiths, hindus can also convert. Christians use money and allurement through a well oiled machinery of missionaries, Hindus use the plank of Ghar Wapsi.
One more thing. India is not secular because someone mentioned it in Constitution. It is secular because its ethos, idea and more importantly its people are secular. And close to 80% of these people are Hindus. So a large credit of idea of India should go to Hindus. All subcontinent people were Hindus at some point of time. People converted to other faiths for many reasons ranging from influence, fear, inducement or force. What is wrong if some chose to come back as long as there is no force or illegality. Actually all of this business of conversion is stupid. A conversion should happen only if a person chooses to convert from his free will, not when someone approaches or preaches him. Preaching essentially means that you are telling other person that my religion is superior to yours or my God is more powerful to yours which is a ridiculous argument in itself.

Sachin Feb 20, 2015 04:08pm

@sharabi Quite an interesting thought !

Moody Blue Feb 21, 2015 11:30am

@Varntvar Culture, including religion, is a human invention, it is learned and transmitted. One can learn new things and acquire other beliefs as you grow old. It is not DNA which you have no control over and it is endowed by nature. You can change your beliefs anytime you have better information. But can you change your DNA?

sana khan Feb 22, 2015 11:20pm

as an indian muslim girl i can say these things are overhyped.99% of my friends are hindus and i have never experienced any sort of discrimination. never ever have i felt that i belong to different religion.

HZR Feb 23, 2015 04:41pm

India's tolerance of other religions is much better than many other nations.if it was not so the muslims would not have increased as they have done and excced the population of Pakistan.One cannot say of this for Paksitan and other Islamic nations.India should have been declared as Hindu nation but chose not to do so becasue India has given refuge to the persecuted from historical times which is why you have Jews.Parsis,Ahmadiyas,Bhais and even the Dalia Lama sought refuge in India and not other countires.he knows that is a high level of tolerence for other faiths.Like all societies ther maybe some fanatics are there but this is more as a response to the radicalsitation that has set in with other semitic religions.

umair Feb 26, 2015 10:33am

a cry in the wilderness.