Islam: a religion of peace hijacked by fanatical Muslims. These guys are the enemy of the religion and not the cartoons

nothing has changed after peshawar..nothing will change ever.

No hope for pak

Same people who paid tribute to the Peshawar massacre? We are a totally failed nation. Is ISLAM really that weak that we can be shaken up by a comic?

Your so called "heroes" just gave charlie hebdo magazine a new life. A magazine that roughly sold 30000 copies is now being printed in millions. Genius

local cleric Maulana Pir Mohammad Chishti.seeking cheap publicity

Please someone stop these Mullahs, whoes main aim is to make Pakistan a pariah state

It was sad that these few people support the terrorist attack. Please know that killing in the name of the Prophet is bigger insult to the Prophet and a sin according to teachings of the Quran. This demonstration and killings in our name is unacceptable. People must stand up against this hypocrisy.

So the editor will once again publish Mohammed on the front cover, has printed 3 million copies instead of the usual 60k, will get millions across the world looking at the photo. Who has done more damage to Mohammed?

This is the root cause, these people, if you do not restrain them you have your own home grown fanatics roaming around. All of these should be arrested and taught a lesson; killing innocent people will not be tolerated but then again Mian Shareef is busy in chalking out new plans since the General ruined his initial map from rich to more richer!!

The protest if you look at the protest was barely 20 man strong.

These guys need to be added to the watchlist.

With such a low turnout, why was this even news worthy. Enemies of Islam and Pakistan will use this for their propoganda, just like they used it when a small group celebrated 9/11. Those enemies of Islam completely ignored wide spread outrage on 9/11 and sympathy towards the victims. They would just show the fanatics.

If faith can move mountains than it can withstand criticism too.

There are hardly a few souls........its not even worth a news...

Actually these people have defamed the teaching of Prophet PBUH

The ugliest representation .Can any one in Pak show the courage to shut them out?

Where is Pakistan Police, Army, Commandos, Special forces, Navy, Air-force, tanks, artillery F-16 etc, bring all these gear and crushed these Lunatics Mullahs, These people are the real Enemies of Islam. Just because someone make a cartoon doesn't mean you go and kill them, you can make cartoon of their religious figure. Peshawar attack took lives of our 140 childrens, our nation I still in deep sleep. pakinstan citizens please wake up and recognize these mullahs, fanatic, lunatics, hypocrytic, liars, war mongars, illiterate jahil mullahs

KPK government should take immediate action against this mullah. ...who is enemy of Islam and pakistan.

@bharat Bhushan - Your conclusion is totally wrong. How many people do you see in this gathering, less than a 100 and you are basing your conclusion on this count? In comparison, how many people have supported RSS's conversion rallies, thousands. So, by this definition, nothing will change in India as well. The fact is that people like you come with an agenda on this site and start your smear campaign every chance you get.

Nawaz Sharif please kill these people Imran khan please get rid of these lunatics Altaf Hussain please suggest something to get rid of these people All these people are Enemies of Islam, due to these people other nations don't like muslims

freedom of expression.

You need a better counter narrative. This is a conflict of ideologies. Must be responded by intellectuals

@anon.. 30,000? I'm sure, it is far less than that...

@AXH You got it totally wrong. Terrorists have voice and good/moderates dont have. Please understand the difference.

This event should be a food for thought for our upcoming politicians. I wonder if the media will have discussion on this as well.

Wow!!

@Joe Well said Joe.Totally agree with you.

Unacceptable, however did few dozen people needed this degree of attention. Perfect example of creating storm in a cup of tea!!!

well if Europe support freedom of speech without limits, they should accept this one as well as freedom of speech and should also appreciate it

@Rahim one has to keep difference in criticism and insulting

Terrorism through pen/tongue is worse than the terrorism through bullet. Wounds of words never heal. So please don't incite anyone by playing with their beliefs in the name of so called "Freedom of Expression". Governments should ensure for the sake of humanity.
Please have some code of conduct for world media. Don't print/broadcast which ignites fire just for the sake of money. Notwithstanding the above, no one should take law in hand. It is better to protest peacefully, which may have better impact. Two wrongs don't make one right. Killings at Paris magazine are CONDEMNED. Let the world be a place to live in peace and brotherhood; PLEASE. Respect all Religions. Dawn; please print.

@Joe this is the freedom of speech , Europe supports it with out limits . or is it that Europe supports freedom of speech without limits only for itself and not for others

@sk

Yes, no one should support or justify killings.

Kudos to Dawn for candid reporting - this is the best hope for Pakistan

A few dozen rally. To give you perspective its 50 odd people out of 200,000,000 strong population base

@A shah its not that their comments can shaken Islam, their freedom of speech without limits is causing deep hurting to Muslims and they think they are allowed to do so. while on the contrary for us they have restrictions on freedom of speech. they have double policy and double face, they can do hate speech against others on name of freedom of speech but we cant. why?

well I am muslim and don't feel like celebrating the attack

For heaven's sake , nothing nothing justifies killing people. Please stop confusing people

wow what a big rally!

@AXH so less people mean it's ok? The fact that this took place and the admin allowed it talks about the mindset in pak.

Only in Pakistan

Secular government. Secular education. And that's a startig point.

While if ridiculing someones religion can be termed as freedom of speech whats wrong with this rally.then?

Rally in favour of persons who killed innocent people! Islam does not support killers of innocents.

The Government needs to give strict punishment to those who make bad name for Pakistan.

And then Pakistanis wonder why their country has such a negative image in the world!

@Noria nothing justifies killing of people but hurting them deeply is justified? World needs to think over it that if some one cause a deep hurting its reaction can be any thing and nobody can control that reaction

Small rally or big rally. It is a matter of freedom to express one's opinion. Isn't it what the west is defending so strongly?

Its good that Dawn published this. These people do not represent Islam.

@anon
Hurting feelings of billon people is extremism and condemnable.

this is freedom of expression people get over it

we want education, we want healthcare, we want peace, we enjoy music, we want better life, we want to travel, we want to be respected, we DON'T want to be in any news - but these mullahs and politicians wont let us......world thinks we are doomed but we are NOT what they think we are.. we are as normal as any other indian/bengali/american/african...what can a normal pakistani do? PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME

@Joe I totally agree with you.

The good news I see in this Rally is that not many people have joined them. It is pleasant to see that finally they have started to loose followers who would blindly follow them.

While I condem the publication by Charle Hebdo, killing other people is no way to silence them. Pen and paper is much more powerful and effective thank guns. I hope we muslims can realize that.

where in Islam is there a mention that killing was good if you didn't like something there are 101 ways to protest than killing innocent !!

excuse us, but does these all powerful militarily and diplomatically nations germany, italy and france and UK say one word when israel conducts killings of hundreds and thousands in 2009 and 2013/14? do they gather anywhere then?

These rallies getting media coverage is what worries me the most.

@shah but brother, yes they hurt our feelings by publishing the images, that doesn't mean we can kill them. Sticks and stones my friend!

These men are practicing their ' freedom of expression' These men are free to express in any way they want.

Isn't it their FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION???

@bharat Bhushan : Its a few dozen people who are doing this, when the cartoons were published millions of people marched on the streets of Pakistan, now we are talking about few dozens marching for the massacre

I do not believe that 6.5 billion people have to change their mind. U.N. will never do that because it is the code of conduct in civilised society to be able to offend and free speech. Muslims should be able to say that we are proud Muslims and nothing rest of the world can print or say will effect their devotion to Islam, instead of killing people

The only solution to eliminate the killing in the name of religion is to spread the education of deen and dunya all over Pakistan by increasing the quota allocated for education to 10% of GDP and by combining all the madersas and regular schools to gather. Different schools based on different muslk and quality of education should be completely eliminated. Jehalat is a main source of problem in Pakistan.

@Riaz Pen is best attacked by pen and not sword !!

This guy with the red turban and his partners are not Pashtun. Non Pashtuns are giving the Pashtun a bad reputation by holding a rally in Peshawar.

Pakistan is a peace loving country. There are no terrorists in Pakistan. It is the biggest victim of terrorism and a frontline state against terrorists. This rally was conspiracy

@Riaz If you cant tolerate you need to leave that place and stay where your religion is respected. You dont have any rights to kill anyone.

Very few people. That's heartening to see. A baby step in the right direction.

Military should take action against who defame the name of Islam and Pakistan!

@sk We don't speak up when someone spreads hatred in the name of religion, or creates differences or discriminates or divides in the name of religion. It is time to be vocal and take the religion back from these usurpers of religion, cause if we don't we will be seen as falling in the same line.

Does this surprise anyone?

I understand the freedom of speech and media, but I will say that the Media should abstain from giving unnecessary importance to such rallies and all what is lead by Mullas. This lets them feel important which makes them mad.

Why are they not arrested for inciting violence?

@indo why is the Media covering it? 60 people protesting out a country of 200 million people is nothing. These idiots just wanted cheap publicity!

well, can we refer them to a bunch of people using their 'freedom of speech'

Shame on them

@Joe it is freedom of speech. Pakistanmedia is free.

The small crowd speaks for itself that slowly the support for such views is diminishing in Pakistan, which is a good news!

Also, the majority of comments here condemning such a rally/coverage are also encouraging...

Why did the government allow it and why this so called Maulana Pir Mohammad Chishti has not been arrested? SHAME on the government which should resign immediately

@saleem a. farooki are you being sarcastic? The point is not to glorify murder. Do you get it?

@Irfan Baloch Aparently, you should have lectured the same to the killers of the cartoonists...

In most countries in the world , lauding terrorists is called hate speech

Shouldn't these protestor be arrested and tried in military courts for supporting terrorist acts. I love PBUH and his teaching taught me to speak against such atrocities and killings.

My suggestion to Dawn is, please don't give voice to these misguided people. We the majority should stop the media giving importance to these so called leaders of Islam. In my view by reporting news items like this we are encouraging these unknown ignorant people.

In the USA they had the reverend Terry Jones and his 40 person church burning korans to gather headlines...I guess Pakistan has their mulana Chisty playing to the media...the difference is rev. Jones never promoted murdering of anyone?...and that is a big difference...

I want to ask one question. If prophet was alive today what would his response be. And what was his response during his time.

@A shah Yes and more.

@Rashid . No one is stopping you to get education in Pakistan but you have to pay for it. Nothing is free in this world. If you want the government to provide you everything free, Its not possible because they don't have the resources. Pay your taxes and utility bills on time,so the government can help the most needy people in the country. I don't condone the killing of the Charlie hebdo staff but they are the one who started printing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed (64 pages) provoking Muslims and spewing hatred among different communities under the name of freedom of the press. We` have to look at the underlying causes of this attack. We need to step up and ask every one to show respect to the prophets and not spread hate among different religions. We need laws to stop this madness. As long as they keep printing cartoons of the prophet which is very offensive to Muslims, these attacks will continue. Muslims have never printed offensive cartoons of Jesus or Moses. The good news is that the more they attack islam, the more people join the fold of Islam.

These guys are perfect to be summoned to the military court. Unfortunately there is no possibility in making them understand common sense.

Well, there are idiots everywhere. We Indians had an ex-MLA Yakoob Qureshi offering a reward of 51 crores to the attackers. Only difference is the number seems to be a little more in Pakistan

these are sick people who will not have any sympathy for Peshawar army schools Childrens . i am 100% sure . these are indeed not the face OF PESHAWAR.accept my apology. innocents are innocents where ever they are .

my sympathy and condolence with all those charlie habdos victims . these are sick parts of our society who should be excluded and vanished.

deepest sorry and sympathies with charlie habdos .

long live pak army

@allaisa. Good piece of fiction

The people paying tribute to these terrorists are the reason there is Islamophobia.

Just sad.

Darkness is so pervasive that faith in hope has died! Violence is no way to react.

The whole world has spoken against the Islamic terrorist's brutal killing, but in Pakistan we are supporting the killers. Then we wonder why the whole world is against us?

@shah Jokes,criticism of ideas and beliefs =/= Hate Speech Inciting violence/harm against people of certain race,sex,ethnicity,religion,sexual orientation,etc = Hate speech

Are these guys not terrorists by association with french terrorists who murdered innocent people in France?

Koshish ke bawajood ye ilzaam reh gaya Har Kaam me hamesha koi kaam rah gaya Uth uth ke masjidon se namazi chale gaye Dahshatgardo ke hath me Islam rah gaya by Nida Fazli

FO condemns attacker. Maulana leads a rally paying tribute to attackers. In a city where just about a month back 150 children have been killed. All this just does not tie up.

@Rahim Very well said.

@shah freedom of speech can not be for assasinations and murders.

@shah It is a thin line there. Making mockery through cartoon can be construed as a style of criticism. It can well be also construed as a style of insult.

@anon

Awesome, smells of a clear conspiracy by some forces to increase sales of the magazine. You can't fool me

Answer of a cartoon is a cartoon not violence. How can a sensible person advocate and celebrate violence... They are not muslims

and still you question what is wrong with Pakistan?

look no further...

This is not stereotyping, but here you have it: the faces in the picture paint a thousand (awful, sad) words.

Somebody ,please teach these idiots difference between Muslims and terrorists. Calling murderers their Brothers and trying to garner cheap publicity as somebody else said in other posting should not be encouraged by giving media.

There is absolutely nothing wrong in demonstrations for and against. That is freedom of speech and assembly but making martyrs out of violent bigots is. Pakistanis shall stand up and be counted. Freedom of speech is cardinal. There is nothing evil (spiritually). It is a catalyst for change. May be such demonstrators are the catalyst world has been waiting for to bring the change from 'an exclusive club groupings, my way or the highway mentality, segregative and polarising beliefs, enterprising religions and intolerant animalistic homo sapiens'

@sk : excuses do not solve the problem. like fanatics hijacked Islam. . Why did you allow the fanatics to hijack as claimed . These are only apology and give space not to introspect and identify as to where lies the problem. escapist help to maintain the status quo and do not arrest the process of deterioration

@Concern1 ---- It is not seeking cheap publicity. it is step to spread the ideology of intolerance and extremism .Are you really concerned. it is high time to review for change of your name.

@M. Siddique : Why don't a counter rally ( even fewer like minded people) is arranged to display the sentiments or only an arm chair protest. what stops the society - fear, boycott in the society, reprisal from the local mosque/ cleric and other apprehensions to counter such rally praising the killers( citing the religion). Silence also says loudly which global audience do hear.

Unless and until , muslims understand that there is no good terrorism (jihad) or bad terrotism (terrorism against muslims) and killing in any means is inhuman. They need to refrain themself to support any activity which support terrorists. Otherwise they will find themself lonely in this world....

@AXH ; you are finding solace that the gathering ( praising the killers)has less than 100 people. but it indicates that many many more have the similar mindsets which probably could not come out publicly. With your logic when none counter protest in the street means that there is none to oppose . please note silence indicates passive consent.

@M. Siddique u are the people. U need to stand up...

Who allowed them to come out on the road? The blood of our innocent kids is still fresh. Not only they but those among the administration who supported this so called rally should be arrested and charged.

@Joe that is the point for everything u are dependent on others. Wake up people. U need to do something....

@shah . it is criticism to one while insult to others . freedom of speech means you have to agree to hurt and accept the hurt with varying degree.. If this freedom is snatched the time will stop . there won't be any change, new thought. If Muslims themselves stop the debate on Islam in the modern context it will have continue to have the relevance prevailing 1400 years ago but irrelevant now. Sticking to that has created the menace i feel.

@Rashid stand up and protest...

@allaisa yes. Great. Nice to know. Good dose of humor....

Somebody give these people some work so they get busy in constructive things.

These are the offensive cartoon against Islam.

Wow. Somebody says that there are no terrorists in Pakistan. Just below this story there is a picture of Lakhvi and news about his case. How ironical and contrast it is. I see large number of very good Pakistanis voicing their concerns about bad guys and terrorists. In Pakistan nothing will change just by writing. We read this but are bad guys even literate? Do you think they read all these? No. Even if they read,their fanatic beliefs are not going to change. How many times how many good Pakistanis have opposed these type of crimes publically? How many times they have organised big rallies opposing their crimes? Only people's voice will stop them, not bullets.When they would realized that the whole country is against them, they will back up.I feel sorry for Pakistan. Wake up Pakistan before it is too late.

So these people are free to show their support to terrorist who kills other nationalist people? Is this mean good terrorist for them and those who kills in Peshawar as bad terrorist?

Very clear that nothing is going to change in Pakistan. The UN should declare Pakistan a rogue nation like north Korea.

haha, freedom of speech/expression at its finest .. only in the Land of the "Pure"

Why am I not surprised. Actually, I was waiting for a story like this to break out. Couple of clerics making a name for themselves. Although very glad there is no vandalism involved this time.

This is called true freedom of speech. As long as you don't say anything wrong about judiciary everything is fine.

@AXH you could be correct, brother, only about 100 people took part. But this number is 50 times that of the men who created so much damage in Paris. The lesson is that evil must be nipped in the bud or we will all face a monster we cannot control. A counter demonstration of true lovers of peace several times larger than 100 would send a message to these undesirable hate mongers where the public stands in this issue. Can we expect one from that public shotly?

@pagrri Sanbhaal What is wrong? They are celbrating the highest form of crime against humanity- murder of so many innocents. If you cannot see the difference, I am very sorry for you.

@sukhera: why is Muslim hurt feeling justify killing? They also ridiculed Judaism and Christianity. The other religions took it in their stride and did not respond, because they are not insecure in their faith. All religion have their black sheep, and should be able to take criticism.

Please do not forget that the Muslims in Afghanistan demolished the amazing structure of Bamiyan Buddha. Just so that they did not want to be reminded of the past Religon that existed before.

Cruel twisted midset of people exist in every religon but unfortunately people following the Islam faith has most of them. The good people of Islam should shun this extremism and counter it and at best able to accept other faiths on equal footing like they do in most parts of the world. Islam has some good points no mistaking in that and Koran was written centuries ago when the society was different and this has to be taken into context before viewing today's world in the context of Islam.

@A shah ,,,,,,,,,,,good said sir,,, even Hindus have proved that pk made by Amir khan cant shake Indian Hindus for showing disrespect for Hindu gods,,,,,,,

True picture of Pakistan cannot be derived from such rally. Pakistani brothers and sisters know that Islam is for everyone's safety. No one in India (or in the world) should attract a message from this rally that the rally-people depict common Pakistani's face. I think this is a challenging time for this nation and the country will certainly succeed.

As the great Muslim caliph Ali ibn Abu Talib once wrote, "Remember that people are of two kinds,they are either your brothers in religion or your brothers in mankind." How can you then go and kill your brothers? notwithstanding your deep grievances, and looking at these fanatics out in support of killers is nothing but shame-utter shame.

@shezad It is not these 20 people who are adding to the damge which jsut three guys did and sadly it can only multiply bringing the wrath of the world and more people against the relgion.

It is a shameful act which we demonstrate to the world, leading to more isolation in the civilized society.

@anonymous The Bamyan Buddha stood unmolested and protected as a heritage site by purer Muslims that ruled Afghanistan for 1500 years. The destruction of Bamyan Buddha was the work of an alien agenda carried out by non Afghans. Let's put things in the proper context here.

Get these fanatics locked up in the jails.

@MMM because the govt did not stop them.

This is also according with freedom of expression

@Arnab Dey

And no one has the right to hurt others' feeling; may it be any religion.

@Arnab Dey

Read my comments again; I condemned both.

Though I don't support any form of terrorism (including terrorism through pen/print/rally); wouldn't this rally fall in "Freedom of Expression" as per west's standards, as it has no limits.

@AXH But their actions speak volumes mate. Muted response is silent consent.

@افغان ميهن No . It was done by religiously fanatic Taliban Muslims. Period. The whole world saw it. Please accept this fact.

@adnan You try to understand. There is a vast difference between two. I am not from any of these countries. They did it to save Afghanistan to save from Taliban and 9/11 originated from that soil.I Iraq, they did it to save Iraq from Saddam Hussain. May be it was right or wrong it's a different thing. One wrong does not justify another.

@pagrri Sanbhaal The rally is in poor taste, as are many protests that are carried out. It does not mean that they should not happen. These people are equally entitled to express their opinions.

@Rashid "we want education, we want healthcare, we want peace, we enjoy music, we want better life, we want to travel, we want to be respected, we DON'T want to be in any news - but these mullahs and politicians wont let us......world thinks we are doomed but we are NOT what they think we are.. we are as normal as any other indian/bengali/american/african...what can a normal pakistani do? PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME"

Really empathize with your plight and truly believe you are the same as any other human being who just wants to live peacefully. Don't underestimate the power of public opinion. After the Peshawar killings, strong public protest shook the authorities. That's the kind of energy and public rallying for the right causes, that is needed. Not saying its an easy thing to do, especially in a country where fanatic elements have a strong voice...but its the only way. You can't rely on the government. If the fanatics can rally to pay tribute to attackers, you can also rally to condemn the attackers hijacking the religion. God only knows how the prophet would have felt if he knew what kind of people are justifying killing people in the name of defending his name. Now is the time to defend the religion. Question is...how many people have the courage? There is strength in numbers. It seems a few people wield tremendous power over large sections of educated, sane and normal people. It will require a certain amount of energy to suppress these fearsome few. You can do it. Whether its supporting right to education (for all), protesting killing of innocent children or protesting against hijacking the good name of a religion, a small group of fanatics has no chance against a united public...god be with you.

It is their freedom of expression I am sure the west and France especially will support it, what do you think....?

Very true, their all blasphemous printing were meant to get media attention and then to get sold this way. Money. Indeed greed is curse.

@افغان ميهن : Afghan (X), YOUR elected Taliban provoked Bamian Buddha destruction! Don't try to avoid responsibility!

It is sad to see that the government is so powerless or scared that they can't arrest these extremist who are sympathizers of terrorists.

If government cannot take these extremists seriously, terrorism will never end in Pakistan. These people must be behind bars.

Such a small scale demonstration does not worth a news in Dawn. Just ignore it.

mr sk..infect u r wrong ...they committed a big mistake which is unbearable for the Muslims..if u really a muslim and have affiliation wid ur religion thn how can speak like this

@Irfan Baloch there must be limitations in expression..no need to hit any religion through the expressions

A country where terrorists are getting mass public backing the rest is understood. What a moderate state.

@A shah It is 6 millions and all sold out thanks to "The Islamists and Muslim fundamentalist" Those have nothing to do Islam and the Fundamentals of Islam.

@Exasperated . Because Muslims love the prophet Mohammed more than their own life. As a matter of fact Muslims love Jesus and Moses more than the Christians and jews and will never show disrespect to them. Some people will do anything to hurt the feelings of people of other faiths as long as they make money in the process. EU countries have laws against the denial of the Holocaust by anyone and people have gone to jail for that.. So why the freedom of the press and free speech does not apply. The fact is there is a double standard in the we.st