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Protesters use plastic sheet to cover themselves from rain as they move to another place at the premises of Parliament building where they camped in Islamabad, Sept 4, 2014. — AP

As the political crisis prevailing in the country continues unabated, the government and opposition parties in the Assembly are making frantic efforts to negotiate with the protesting PTI and PAT.

The previous day saw fiery speeches from Raza Rabbani who made a stirring call to democratic forces to unite in what he saw as a long battle for the supremacy of Parliament and Ahsan Iqbal who came out with a strong denunciation of PTI and PAT.

And while progress appeared on the talks’ front as the government and PTI traded proposals for electoral reforms, impressions of a deal to end the stalemate were dispelled by party lawmaker Arif Alvi.

Confusion also reigned in the capital after Ahsan Iqbal announced that Chinese president Xi Jinping had ‘cancelled’ his upcoming visit to Pakistan, even before Beijing had made its plans regarding the visit public.

In his latest harangue, PAT chief Dr Tahirul Qadri also lashed out at Parliamentarians saying lawmakers were labeling his “peaceful daughters, sisters and sons” as terrorists.

With the numbers at the Constitution Avenue parade continuing the ebb and flow pattern of the past weeks, a dramatic ruling from the Supreme Court or flexibility from the defiant government and stubborn protesting parties are the only likely options to end the deadlock.

Will PTI and government agree on certain concessions? Will better sense prevail for Dr Qadri, who is calling for an overthrow of the system? What success will the jirga achieve?

Read up on Saturday and Sunday's violent clashes | Read what took place on Monday | Read what took place on Tuesday | Read up on events from Wednesday | Read up on what happened on Thursday

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2014-09-05 23:32:42

PTI sit-in: Imran announces return to D-Chowk

Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan has announced that his ongoing protest sit-in will be staged at D-Chowk, a roundabout just outside Islamabad’s Red Zone where both the protesting parties originally staged their sit-ins.

“Due to lack of space, we will move back to D-Chowk tomorrow,” he told his supporters.

Khan vowed to remain persistent with his anti-government protest, saying “three pharaohs Nawaz Sahrif, Mir Shakilur Rehman and Iftikhar Chaudhry will fall soon.”

2014-09-05 19:53:27

Govt sought $45bn loan not investment from China: Imran

Rejecting the government’s claim of an expected investment from China, PTI Chairman Imran Khan alleged that the government of PM Sharif was instead to seek a loan of $45 billion during Chinese president’s now canceled trip to Pakistan.

2014-09-05 19:38:13

Imran pays homage to passion of marchers in rain

Imran Khan paid homage to passion of the protesters for keep standing even in heavy rains in Islamabad. He lashed out at parliamentarians specifically Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Mehmood Khan Achakzai who he claimed have been ‘posing’ as democrats in the National Assembly.

The PTI chairman reiterates his stance of staying at the sit-in till Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif resigns.

2014-09-05 17:29:11

Talks have resumed through jirga: Rehman Malik

Former interior minister Rehman Malik said it was regretful that Chinese President Xi Jinping had cancelled his trip to Pakistan, DawnNews reported.

He said talks had resumed between the government and the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf through a jirga.

2014-09-05 16:27:00

PTI, jirga meeting begins

PTI delegates and the opposition jirga has begun their meeting at the residence of PPP leader Rehman Malik in Islamabad.

2014-09-05 16:19:47

PTI, opposition jirga to meet

PTI leaders will be meeting with the opposition jirga at the residence of Pakistan Peoples Party leader Rehman Malik on Friday evening.

PTI team includes Shah Mehmood Qureshi, Arif Alvi, Jahangir Tareen, Asad Umar, Shafqat Mehmood, Pervaiz Khattak. Delegates will be led by Shah Mehmood Qureshi.

The opposition jirga is being led by JI Emir Sirajul Haq.

2014-09-05 14:47:39

Nisar should apologise to Aitzaz Ahsan: Zardari

Former president Asif Ali Zardari said that Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan should apologise to Aitzaz Ahsan for accusing him of using the name of the late Benazir Bhutto for business interests and personal gains and being a facilitator of the biggest land mafia in the country, DawnNews reported.

Zardari also affirmed support for democracy in the country.

2014-09-05 14:36:25

Pained to see people suffering, says Qadri

Qadri said there was no need for him to protest, adding that he was leading a relatively happy and comfortable life in modest surroundings but was pained to see the suffering of the poor, womenfolk and children of the country.

"I have raised my voice for the impoverished people in the country," the firebrand cleric told protesters amidst resounding applause.

"I fear for our future generations," he said in a quivering voice.

2014-09-05 14:21:24

Will address press conference soon: Chaudhry Nisar

Chaudhry Nisar says due to the political pressure on the premier and the federal ministers he did not deem it suitable to give a befitting reply to Aitzaz Ahsan during the joint session.

The interior minister adds he would soon address a press conference for setting the record straight.

2014-09-05 14:17:01

Don't lose patience, Qadri tells protesters

Addressing supporters in Islamabad, Pakistan Awami Tehreek (PAT) chief Dr Tahirul Qadri said difficult situations required people to remain patient, DawnNews reported.

Qadri said the government tried to silence the protesters by blocking access to food and water supplies in Islamabad, adding that people were exploited simply because they stood up for what is right.

He said if the Parliament comprised the right kind of people, they would listen to the demands and woes of the protesters.

"You have been protesting for 23 days in the scorching heat but none of the parliamentarians came to your aid," Qadri said.

"They (parliamentarians) vowed to represent you when they pleaded for your votes, but they have failed to do that," Qadri said.

He told protesters to remain steadfast in the face of adversity and not lose patience.

2014-09-05 13:57:27

Protests have tainted country's image: Saad Rafique

Addressing a press conference on Friday, Federal Minister for Railways Khawaja Saad Rafique said the ongoing protests in Islamabad had tainted the image of Pakistan, DawnNews reported.

He said the government had shown immense restraint otherwise it wouldn't have taken more than 15 minutes to clear the Pakistan Secretariat.

"Government urged the path of dialogue but unfortunately it was mistaken as its weakness," Rafique said.

He said issues such as loadshedding, terrorism and poverty would not be resolved through protests, adding that Imran Khan and Tahirul Qadri had put the state into a major difficulty.

Rafique said that Qadri and Imran should stay firm on their demands but at least stop their protests which had crippled the country.

2014-09-05 12:24:03

Session adjourned

The joint session of the Parliament has come to an end for today and will resume at 5 pm on Monday.

2014-09-05 12:16:09

Is Nisar calling Iftikhar Chaudhry and Nawaz Sharif land mafia?

A visibly upset Aitzaz asks on the floor of the House: "Iftikhar Chaudhry and Nawaz Sharif were my clients, is Nisar calling them land mafia?"

"It is the government's job to remain soft...did Asif Zardari have any less differences with you?...these are not debates of the student union that when Shah Mehmood Qureshi starts talking, the ministers start mumbling."

"And I assure you that if I want I will walk out of this House my brothers will leave this House too to accompany me."

"I was the only politician to oppose all four military dictators...my wife who does her LPG business and she pays more taxes than any of these ministers."

2014-09-05 12:04:46

Joint session called after opposition approached PM: Aitzaz

Aitzaz Ahsan says the joint session of Parliament was called after the opposition approached Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif.

"The joint session was called only after the opposition approached the prime minister...and when the Parliament stood behind you Honourable PM, the body language of your ministers changed...the fears that I was expressing...yesterday in your presence, your interior minister addressed me in a threatening manner and said he would respond to us for our criticism in Parliament."

"My wife does LPG business...what quote is the minister talking about?...Does he not know that in 2000, LPG was deregulated."

Pointing to Chaudhry Nisar, Aitzaz says: "Look at him, he's giving me eyes. He should know that the government is not doing anyone a favour by "absorbing criticism"."

2014-09-05 12:00:34

Aitzaz Ahsan responds to allegations

A stern-looking Aitzaz Ahsan addresses the prime minister and responds to the allegations levelled against him by Chaudhry Nisar.

"I refused to go before Iftikhar Chaudhry after his reinstatement...if I wanted to do business through my politics or my connections, I had many avenues to accomplish that end but I didn't, I didn't want to."

"I will also reply to the allegations of land mafia...I have been urging the Honourable PM to look at the people around him."

"Mian sahab, for how long will you apologise on behalf of those who have already abandoned you," Ahsan asks.

2014-09-05 11:41:12

Aitzaz Ahsan on the floor of the House; urges PM to reassess those around him

Addressing the House, Senator Aitzaz Ahsan says he is thankful to PM Nawaz for expressing his sympathies and apologising on behalf of his minister.

"I'm thankful to the Honourable PM that he has expressed his sympathies to me and has even apologised over the words that had been used against me by a minister of his cabinet."

"I stand here and I have been accorded respect by the party of Shaheed Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and Shaheed Benazir Bhutto."

"The allegations levelled against me are pathetic...I had in my previous speech also urged the Honourable PM to reassess those who surround him...whether they are loyal to him."

"I struggled for democracy through the eras of different dictators...I rejected offers of employment from the governments of dictators...I rejected these every time...I was jailed, so was my wife during the Zia era..."

"And to clarify, I didn't call off the long march over any order from Kayani. I called it off after the prime minister reinstated the judges following which I consulted with Munir Malik and other lawyers and then called off the march."

“Honourable speaker, the situation is such that the things that Imran Khan has been saying are striking a chord with the people...even if he goes back, he wouldn't have lost.”

“People would still say that Imran you are brave but you are in the party that lost.”

2014-09-05 11:33:38

PM tries to woo back opposition after Nisar’s comments

Addressing the House, the prime minister says last night's event was “unfortunate” for Chaudhry Nisar’s comments in which he had criticised Aitzaz Ahsan on Thursday night.

PM Nawaz apologises to Aitzaz and says that it is important for all political parties to keep their differences aside “for the sake of democracy, Constitution and to uphold the rule of law”.

Much of Nawaz’s speech looks aimed at thanking the opposition in the National Assembly for showing support to government during the current political crisis.

"I hope the opposition will continue on its path” of supporting the government.

I do not care for power, says Nawaz

"It was the opposition which urged me not to resign...I do not care for power...being the prime minister of Pakistan, governing Pakistan is not easy."

"And even though we are talking to the opposition, if you look at the issues of those parties (PTI, PAT), you will wonder if these are the issues of Pakistan."

"I spoke to Khursheed Shah last night and I apologised to him, I also spoke to Aitzaz Ahsan and apologised over the things that were said."

"And now again I offer my sincerest apologies to leader of the opposition and to Aitzaz Ahsan...Ahsan has been my friend and we were struggling together during the lawyers' movement."

"And I assure you that if it was the PPP's government instead of PML-N's and we were in the opposition, we would have stuck by the PPP."

"Even when Tahirul Qadri came to Pakistan the last time when PPP was in power, we stood by the PPP."

2014-09-05 11:32:27

No compromise on unity, democracy, Constitution, law: PM Nawaz

"There should be no compromise over that unity...over the supremacy of Constitution, democracy and rule of law...all parties should set that example."

"As a Pakistani, as a parliamentarian, I feel proud that the parliament has agreed to unite on this path of democracy and constitutionalism."

2014-09-05 11:29:39

PM Nawaz addresses the House

"Honourable Speaker, this is a very unfortunate incident that happened last night and when I found about it, I was very upset. Before that as well, when we were meeting with opposition parties, a small skirmish took place and some of the lawmakers tried to resolve the matter and I am thankful to them."

"What happened last night has upset me...obviously opposition parties have complaints and air them...no matter how many complaints we have with one another, governments and oppositions, whenever a situation like this arises, we should ensure that we stick together and support one another."

2014-09-05 11:19:57

Raja Zafarul Haq on the floor of the House

Speaking to the House, Senator Raja Zafarul Haq says Khursheed Shah's criticism is well-meaning and should be taken as such.

"The opposition leader's criticism is well-meaning. This should be the role of the opposition which it fulfilled. Not only do we appreciate this role but will also not take to heart if they have spoken any strong words in the process."

"Opposition has fulfilled its role which has for the first time turned this House into a strong voice."

"All lawmakers have played a very commendable role in this crisis. Maulana Fazl not only met Mian sahab, he also met with Asif Zardari and tried to resolve the situation."

"After all the things Shah sahab has said, we don't need to further deliberate on what happened yesterday and move on to resolving the crisis and be united."

2014-09-05 11:18:36

PM's weakness will be weakness of democracy, Parliament: Khursheed Shah

"That man [Nisar] has breathed life into the dying forces which were trying to oust you."

"He must be wondering why the opposition didn't boycott today's session? Mian sahab you have been worried since yesterday...should we have not come and worried you further? You have a snake in your ranks Mian sahab."

"And we vehemently condemn all the allegations levelled against our leadership."

"Ending my speech, I'll request leader of the House, PM, to ensure that those in his ranks respect lawmakers."

"PM's weakness would be the weakness of democracy and Parliament."

2014-09-05 11:12:23

One man has put Parliament in quandary: Khursheed Shah

"This is not Aitzaz's issue...this is the issue of the opposition...everyone is upset over the tirade launched against Aitzaz."

"One man has put this House in a quandary, why? The purpose of this joint session was to stand by the people of this country, by democracy; what are people to think now? That man has strengthened those who want to take away the right of the people from having their own government."

"That man has breathed life into the dying forces which were trying to oust you."

"He must be wondering why the opposition didn't boycott today's session? Mian sahab you have been worried since yesterday...should we have not come and worried you further? You have a snake in your ranks Mian sahab."

"And we vehemently condemn all the allegations levelled against our leadership."

2014-09-05 11:10:28

Our willingness to stand by govt shouldn't be viewed as weakness: Khursheed Shah

"He [Nisar] didn't even have the decency that the opposition was sitting in the PM's chamber with him and there too he misbehaved...but he couldn't handle and then called 10-11 journalists and spilled poison to an unbelievable extent."

"He is not of your party Honourable Prime Minister! He is not!...people talks of puppet masters but how to deal with those who want to conspire against the system themselves! No puppet master is needed for that."

Without naming Nisar, Shah says the minister had made up his mind yesterday only and went and sat in a corner during Thursday's session.

"Honourable PM, you will have to make a decision...you will have to call that minister and he needs to come to the House and apologise."

"Our willingness to stand by the government should not be viewed as our weakness Honourable PM."

2014-09-05 10:59:28

You need to assess people in your ranks, Honourable PM: Khurshid Shah

"Nothing has been left by the latest statements against Aitzaz...for us, for the Peoples Party...we came to stand by the government and put behind the aspirations of our workers so nothing we do can lead to the downfall of democracy in the country."

"All day we talked to our brothers in the PML-N on how to ensure the government is not ousted by undemocratic forces and out of nowhere your minister [Nisar] suddenly appears with these preposterous allegations against Aitzaz."

"You need to assess the people in your ranks...there are those in your ranks who are not loyal to you Mian sahab."

"That minister cannot directly attack the PM, Honourable Speaker...you are being weakened and someone is trying to cut off your limbs."

"These statements targeting me and later Aitzaz are deliberate attempts at weakening you...to weaken democracy...to weaken the strength that this Parliament has acquired in the past few days."

"Kings have been killed, Honourable Speaker...Mir Jafars and Mir Sadiqs have emerged...we all know how that works."

2014-09-05 10:50:51

Khurshid Shah on the floor of the House

"Aitzaz Ahsan has been urging the PM not to resign...the entire opposition has urged the prime minister to stay put...his resignation will be the resignation of democracy."

"We have been standing by the government through and through so it is hard to understand why all of sudden the opposition leader was subjected to ridicule."

"Honourable Speaker, did you hear of the statements and allegations against Aitzaz Ahsan?"

"Aitzaz stood by Nawaz Sharif in times of trouble. Whether he's a professional or a businessman...you can tell yourself."

"Nothing has been left by the latest statements against Aitzaz for us, for the Peoples Party...we came to stand by the government and put behind the aspirations of our workers so nothing we do can lead to the downfall of democracy in the country."

2014-09-05 10:16:07

Nawaz meets Fazl

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif on Friday met with Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam Fazl (JUI-F) chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, DawnNews reported.

During the meeting, the two deliberated upon the political situation of the country.

2014-09-05 09:56:50

Govt, PTI trade proposals for electoral reforms

The dreaded ‘D’ word was back on Thursday evening when a key member of the PTI negotiating team dispelled an impression that the party was about to seal a deal with the government and end the political stalemate.

“The two sides have only agreed broadly to our proposal of electoral reforms and establishing a judicial commission. There is no further progress on the rest of our demands,” Dr Arif Alvi told Dawn.

He made these remarks after the working paper prepared by his party had been made public.

A quick read of the eight-page working paper makes it clear that finding the much hoped middle ground will not be easy.

2014-09-05 09:51:58

Any decision taken by political 'jirga' will be accepted: PM Nawaz

After the joint parliamentary session on Thursday, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was briefed in his chambers by the government committee.

PM Nawaz Sharif has said that any decision taken by the political ‘jirga’ will be accepted by him.

2014-09-05 09:51:20

COAS meets CM Shahbaz

The Chief of Army Staff General Raheel met with Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif at Army House in Rawalpindi. The two discussed the political situation, with Tariq Fatemi also in attendance.

2014-09-05 09:50:13

Don't interfere in politics, PAT tells Supreme Court

The Pakistan Awami Tehreek on Thursday submitted its response in the Supreme Court and said the court should not intervene in political matters.

PAT's counsel Advocate Ali Zafar submitted the party's response today which stated that the court should order the government to respond to the demands of protesters and that judicial intervention in electoral matters violated the Constitution.

2014-09-05 09:49:19

These groups are enemies of Pakistan: Ahsan Iqbal

 Iqbal reads from copy of Pakistan Constitution
Iqbal reads from copy of Pakistan Constitution

"No enemy of Pakistan could have created a situation or caused so much humiliation to Pakistan internationally as these two have done," Iqbal cries.

"People are asking internationally — how can a nuclear power allow these people to come and take over the capital and government offices? How will you fare if terrorists want you to surrender?"

2014-09-05 09:48:22

This is a war for power: Raza Rabbani

The legislator moves to the current political crisis. "Honourable speaker, I cannot completely agree that with what people here said yesterday that the Parliament was victorious."

"We should bear in mind that it was the first battle and a nominal victory perhaps but the war hasn't ended. If democratic forces are thinking that it was the first and last attack on the Parliament then they are mistaken."

"This is a war for power — for control of the state."

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Hasan Hasni
Sep 05, 2014 10:23am

What Parliament is doing protecting parliamentarians with the constitution? Sadly not a hint from parliamentarian that they want full enforcement of the constitution for everyone but I heard they wanted to have a protection from constitution for the governing elite. Nothing wrong with parliament but I am very sad with parliamentarians of my country

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Jahangir khan
Sep 05, 2014 10:50am

Raza rabbani is right. This is war of power not ended yet.the empire is spending money for sit down.there are big empires who wants to save 200billion dollars stolen money kept in foreign banks.

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Omer
Sep 05, 2014 10:51am

All leaders of Pakistani Parliment and protesters just leave your premises now and leave political goal scoring for now and to back to the flood areas and help Right now I am not interested in your political struggle however I am very much interested what you are doing for the Flood victims Unite as one nation Don't hate But donate Not for your party But for The Flood Victims Don't struggle for your party and it's supporters But right now struggle for the Pakistan and flood victims

Be a Pskistani now

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Man in China
Sep 05, 2014 11:42am

What ever proposal Mr. Khan wants to implement - must be approved by all the opposition parties - than only can ask the ruling party to implement - If Mr. Khan wants to dictate his own terms - does not carry weight - PTI is just one opposition party . Even if opposition parties does not agree with Mr. Khan, how he expect the ruling party to adhere to his demands. Mr. Khan has a uphill battle - after reading in the newspaper - what Mr. Khan consider rigging - than never ever be any single polling station or constituents can be considered fair and free. It is better Mr. Khan become reasonable and talk sense instead of nonsense. If tomorrow new elections held in KP - and Mr. Khan wins - than those opponents will be on the street and challenge Khan - because the definition of rigging is broad - PTI must think in long term and in terms of country .. No party will be in power or in opposition forever - than these laws will going to come and haunt the winner and losers.

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Ahmed USA
Sep 05, 2014 11:53am

Negotiations would not solve anything until whole system of people's representation and governance is changed...in last general election only 15% of the population voted (including fake votes or rigging)...and out of this the party which supposedly secured about 7.5% votes came to power...means the current assembly is certainly not the proper representative of the will of 200 million Pakistanis...and neither one the ones before it...

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Athar Ali
Sep 05, 2014 11:55am

This parliament is text book definition of Honor amongst Thieves

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Haq
Sep 05, 2014 11:56am

"No enemy of Pakistan could have created a situation or caused so much humiliation to Pakistan internationally as these two have done," Iqbal cries.

Maybe you should look at yourself in the mirror, it's easy to stand in parliament full of same mindset and blame all troubles on others but what is that you or your party has done that stands out. Every single member of your party or most in parliament have corruption charges against them and yet same people speak of justice and rights, that is hypocrisy at it's best.

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Human
Sep 05, 2014 11:57am

Then resign

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Rajab Ali
Sep 05, 2014 12:07pm

Jirga success would be your farewell.

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Pakistani
Sep 05, 2014 12:09pm

Oh really! if that is the case then you should have conducted inquiry of 4 halqas indicated by IK in the first place.

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Israr Khan Ismailzai
Sep 05, 2014 12:19pm

Of course you don't care about power, you are only going through all this because you care sooo about the people of Pakistan. Stop lying, no body believes you. Your actions speak louder than your words.

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Syed
Sep 05, 2014 12:25pm

Aitzaz shred Nawaz and Nisar into pieces!! Wow what a true parliamentarian. Respect for speaking the truth.

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Syed
Sep 05, 2014 12:25pm

Nawaz and Nisar team ran away from parliament after Aitzaz speech.

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Usman
Sep 05, 2014 12:35pm

This long ongoing joint session has exposed the real face of ruling class. People have started taking interest in politics more seriously now and will not let these forgers to dictate their decisions under the veil of parliament. I would suggest PTI to withdraw their resigns and make this buffoons like molana sahib, achakzai, banghash accountable. If PPP (punjab), PTI and MQM will come to one agenda, they can bring change.

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Aneela Kamil
Sep 05, 2014 12:38pm

Dear All

Today in the National Assembly session nothing was discussed about flood management. There were only two agendas. How to retain the chairs.

The only solution for this chronic ailment is that all residents of Pakistan should take theses people out by their collars. All asserts of all politicians should be instantly seized. All politicians and their families should be in jail.

Please.

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anees zaidvi
Sep 05, 2014 12:59pm

".....I do not care for power...." ... What does he care for, then?

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Safdar
Sep 05, 2014 12:59pm

@Syed Don't you think that even Aitzaz is now in a questionable position after declaring that his wife does the LPG business (in which she has no prior experience) - thanks to the quota awarded in the previous government

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mansoor
Sep 05, 2014 01:13pm

Nisar should be sacked. His connections to the establishment are becoming a liabitity for this government.

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hawk
Sep 05, 2014 01:29pm

I think, parliament is not meant for personal debates & arguments. This place is reserved for solving national issues & people

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Zia Khan
Sep 05, 2014 01:33pm

The answer to this debating society is to stand behind Imran and Qadri. Dherna must continue till objectives are achieved. The document which PTI has prepared will change the destiny of Pakistan. Hafiz Pirzada has done a wonderful job.

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Asad
Sep 05, 2014 01:34pm

A devalued government and a devalued parliament and parliamentarian whose only interest is to save their interests. Until today I have not seen any speech about the problems which the nation is facing. Double faced politicians...

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Zaidi Iqbal Hadi
Sep 05, 2014 01:38pm

Prominent Teacher & Proud Student. Senator Barrister Ch Aitzaz Ahsan today stole the show for second time while addressing the joint session of parliament wherein he pounced on Ch Nisar, Interior Minister and refuted all the allegations the minister had hurled against him. Aitzaz has taught me Law at Punjab University Law College, Lahore during 1966-69 session. As a matter of fact my teacher had been too explosive and had very truly torn apart Nisar but PM Nawaz could sense it and therefore he has really proved quite prudent to stand up and tender his unconditional apology to cool down my teacher.

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AdHawk
Sep 05, 2014 01:52pm

Nisar was clearly assigned the task of tainting 'Mr. I Can Do No Wrong'. Mission accomplished.

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AdHawk
Sep 05, 2014 01:57pm

The nexus of big business and politics is a world wide problem. Kudos to Nisar for not letting 'Mr. Self Righteous Ahsan' get away with it.

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Usman
Sep 05, 2014 02:12pm

Dear Pakistanis,

If we as a nation start taking interest in our parliamentary sessions and the performances of our legislators than no one can play with our sentiments. We can make them accountable and bring responsiveness in their behavior.

Now it seems that we are a changed nation after all these past episodes.

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Ahmad
Sep 05, 2014 02:13pm

NS can have the support of millions if he stops mingling Fazl and his kind

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OxfordUK
Sep 05, 2014 02:19pm

Did you guys hear what PM said. We stood by PPP last time when TUQ protested but we didn't ask for favours.Mmmmmmm so that's how it work!!!

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optimist
Sep 05, 2014 02:23pm

NS wants to run an opposition free government. At first he appointed an 80 + years old man Mr. Fakhruddin Ebrahim as the chief of Election Commission. Later he selected Mr. Mamoon as the president of Pakistan. Following his foot steps Mr. Najm Sethi helped Mr. Shaharyar Khan, who is also over 80+. All these three people may be honest and efficient in their prime but they are not effective anymore. President Reagan once said about his style of governance. 'I appoint the best man for the job and don't interfere," Are you doing the same Mr. Nawaz Shareef the honorable PM of Pakistan.

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Umer Hamid Enam
Sep 05, 2014 02:27pm

This proofs that government in power via punctures have to lick n bow to remain in power.

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Arsalan
Sep 05, 2014 02:29pm

@Safdar nobody is defending Aetezaz Ahsan here.... but Nisar ali khan remarks about any parliamentarian at this point of time was not a very wise thing to do

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Gaz
Sep 05, 2014 02:47pm

Brilliant the more they stand up and talk the more corrupt they sound day by day and the more people can see that Imran and Qadri are spot on.

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Salman Tarik Kureshi
Sep 05, 2014 03:01pm

@AdHawk What are you talking about? Don't make a public display of your ignorance. The man you (and Ch Nisar) are attacking is one of the few bona fide heroes of this country.

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RH
Sep 05, 2014 03:01pm

If he is so pained to see the suffering of the poor, than why does he not open the doors of his container and let the small children in for shelter in this rainy days. He is full of hot air this man and it pains me to see that some one is like him is given the right to exploit these women and children. Put them in harms way when charging them to walk towards the parliament building while the leader was in the bullet proof car. So please Dr. Qadri even you lost all my sympathies in these few days you exposed yourself so prominently. Go live your comfortable life in Canada and instigate a movement there.

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Salman Tarik Kureshi
Sep 05, 2014 03:04pm

@Safdar LPG was deregulated and licences awarded during the Musharraf era NOT the last government. I think you will find that the lady you have chosen to question was running her company even before that.

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Salman Tarik Kureshi
Sep 05, 2014 03:06pm

@Haq If I ever read uninformed, patently biased ranting, this was it!

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Mr. MAB
Sep 05, 2014 03:07pm

@Haq The statement of Iqbal you quoted is enormously right. Don't try to hide it by talking about their corruption.

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Khalid
Sep 05, 2014 03:18pm

All the corrupt Parliamentarians of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are only making each other realize their own importance for protection of this corrupt system (which provides them full immunity), and NOT A SINGLE member has come out and spoke about caring for those who are PROTESTING PEACFULLY for the last 23 DAYS NOW ! Simply our parliament you see GREED FOR POWER at its best!!

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tinker bell
Sep 05, 2014 03:28pm

Parliament in Pakistan has proven itself to a forum for pursuit of personal gains only. It has been discredited by none other than those sitting there.

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Dija
Sep 05, 2014 03:30pm

People with the same mindset have joined hands for their vested interests - which is most disastrous for the Nation.

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waqar
Sep 05, 2014 03:35pm

Choroun kay Ghar pay Chori. All our elite class are thug and beneficiaries of Mafia. Ghurbat in say Door hai. This present Democratic system is their Need for there exponential Success. No Wonder.....they all are blood suckers of poor.

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Sajn
Sep 05, 2014 03:47pm

@AdHawk Nisar is Minister for the Interior and as such the police come under his purview. Perhaps he should be answering questions on why police shot and killed 14 people in Model Town rather than worrying about Aitzaz Ahsan's business interests? After all that is his job. Ministers should be both competent and honest, can you say that about Nisar?

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Khalid
Sep 05, 2014 03:51pm

What a disgraceful opposition we have. In any other country in the world, the opposition would have jumped at the opportunity to shorten the reign of these corrupt people. However, Pakistan is different. You scratch my back and I will scratch yours makes us a democracy which no one in Pakistan wants. Sadly, democracy has done nothing for Pakistan. The arrogance of some of the current government ministers is just unbelievable. Although I have no time for PPP, we need someone like Aitzaz Ahsan as Prime Minister. His integrity is beyond question, unlike most government ministers.

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Iqbal Hadi Zaidi
Sep 05, 2014 04:05pm

"Gar tu bura na maanay! " Chinese President is due in Islamabad thus PM Nawaz says that these protesters must quit the arena so that the visiting VVIP can be welcomed in the most befitting manner rather than seeing ugly looking people camped all around and I even though favoring Imran cannot and do not dispute with PM on the point rather I second him whole heartedly but at the same time let me just augment by saying that Chinese President can be welcomed both officially and unofficially which would be unprecedented in Pakistan history if not globally in any case. As Imran + Qadri have said that we will shower rose petals on the President and personally I think this is the best possible opportune for PM Nawaz to cash and instead of hiding the program of the guest he should tell Imran + Qadri which day and time Chinese President will pass through the area where their supporters are camping. Before I go to the logistics so involved therein I must pronounce in quite crystal clear terms without slightest shadow of any doubt that Imran + Qadri are opposing PM Nawaz and they are as patriotic Pakistanis as PM Nawaz himself. Imran dharna is quite live, amusing, heartening and exciting which some also say it is more like holiday picnic than an opposition dharna. I bet on my life that if my suggestion is accepted and Imran + Qadri are given green signal to go ahead to welcome Chinese President then they will address their supporters to temporarily forget about opposing PM Nawaz and instead embark upon welcoming Chinese VVIP which I guess shall even dilute the hostility and heat already generated at dharna. Both leaders will then tell their supporters to clean the whole area of garbage and trash etc, be nicely dressed up, line up quite orderly on both sides of the road, hang Chinese President photos all over the route, hold Chinese flag in right hand and Pakistani flag in left hand, play Chinese songs and tunes and shower scented rose petals on the visitors as and when they pass through the area. Even Chinese President had never ever had such warm and hearty welcome what these protestors can do which as such will be appreciated by Chinese too. Imran + Qadri can be asked to sign an undertaking on oath that they and their supporters will not create any bitterness or awkward situation on such auspicious occasion and in case of any breach on his part he shall be held accountable. Worth trying. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / Kuwait / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com

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Mosawwir
Sep 05, 2014 04:07pm

The Interior Minister's behaviour in today's Parliament session demonstrates that they did not learn any lesson. Their intransigence and personal score settling attitude will drown them. Instead of resolving the issues, they are further adding the fuel to fire.

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AJamal
Sep 05, 2014 04:23pm

This parliament is not about democracy and people. This is mafia system where personal interests are served and egos laid bare. Problems facing people are rarely discussed. Where's the resolution condemning model town massacre and sympathy with the victims?

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Hugh Slaman
Sep 05, 2014 04:23pm

"No enemy of Pakistan could have created a situation or caused so much humiliation to Pakistan internationally as these two have done," Iqbal cries.

This is typical of the reasoning used by oppressors to silence their victims. It is just a form of blaming the victim, rather like telling women to not report being raped by their relatives, on the grounds that doing so will cause humiliation to their family.

If humiliation has been caused to Pakistan internationally, the blame should be directed to all those who created and perpetuated the deep-rooted culture of corruption; it is the existence of this deep-rooted culture of corruption that makes protests like this necessary in the first place.

Let's first make sure we are worthy of the respect of others, by addressing the issues raised by these protests, and gving people the rights promised to them in the Constitution!

After that, we can worry about whether or not we are being humiliated "Internationally".

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ivehadit
Sep 05, 2014 04:39pm

Politicians need to avoid all semblance of corruption. Aitzaz's comment that his wife does LPG business hurts him.

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Cawas
Sep 05, 2014 05:42pm

@Ahmed USA Well said Mr. Ahmed

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JackDomm
Sep 05, 2014 05:53pm

What an in-competent Team!

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Cawas
Sep 05, 2014 05:57pm

@Man in China Now see who is talking nonsense.Don't you watch tv. Didn't u see a lady with hand full of ballot papers casting votes.That's rigging. Changing of voting stations at the very last moment is rigging.I can go on and on Mr. Man in China. More over not exposing your name is not far away from rigging.

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Cawas
Sep 05, 2014 05:59pm

@Haq Well said Mr. Haq.

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waris shah
Sep 05, 2014 06:01pm

All the parlimentarian should know the definition of democracy: "Government of the People, by the People, for the People". Well how then this so called "Democratic Government" lead the killing of 14 people including women and wounding of around 90 people in model town incident? This can only happen in a government of "Thugs" and "Farohs". Everyone needs to analyze the events in a fair manner.

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Darkanu
Sep 05, 2014 06:02pm

They pretend to defend parliament in disguise of so called democracy. They invested huge funds to multiply these while under the umbralla of the corrupt system. They are uall united against the1600 Millions people who did not vote them to further loot the national wealth and sources and take it abroad in Swiss Banks.

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zobia khan
Sep 05, 2014 06:08pm

@Jahangir khan You keep saying stolen money? Who was it stolen from? You cannot, I repeat, you cannot take money out of the treasury. Even a single ruppee has to be accounted for.

There are so many allegations of money belonging to various people kept outside the country. This is the soviet era thinking, where all wealth belongs to the state. Sorry we don't think like that. If you made money in a business deal you have the absolute right to keep it anywhere you want, to spend it charity or on yourself. Its your money.It does not belong to the people or the state.

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Ayaz
Sep 05, 2014 06:12pm

It would be best for the country and even PML-NS to start the reforms that the protestors were demanding. If NS is sincere, then he should not waste time in other gimmicks. Another suggestion would be to include competent people in his cabinet ... Otherwise, this drama can be repeated.

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Key Points
Sep 05, 2014 06:22pm

It was expected that members of parliament would discuss why people are protesting in Islamabad and put their list of demands through voting process to pass the bill for follow-ups. Instead ruling party as well as opposition leaders first both critized protesters, than started pointing fingers at each others shortcomings. This is unforfunate scenario when tax payers are paying for these member of parliament to see them squabling on petty issues, failing to discuss and solve nations problems. Just too many egotistical self serving politicians. If they really wanted, they could have discussed protest demand & conclude it in 12 hours. Furthermore, all MP's could get back to their constituencies roll up their sleeves to help out in current rain & flood devastation. That would have called real democracy. Not sitting on their rear like a baboo saheb.

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Jawad
Sep 06, 2014 12:31am

@zobia khan @Jahangir khan You keep saying stolen money? Who was it stolen from? You cannot, I repeat, you cannot take money out of the treasury. Even a single ruppee has to be accounted for.

Of course stolen from the people of Pakistan. You repeat as many times as you wish my friend it will not change the facts. Accounted for---- if you are the business man , you are the government and you yourself are the accountant? And oh. You can't take money out --- what if you don't put it in. Take your cuts before hand , who is gonna check----- you yourself? And that's the money that ends outside banks. If all the money is legal then why hide it outside? One --- mostly it's black money / two----- then you steal again by not paying tax on it. Give this contract to him--- he will put money in my Swiss account and on and on and on. My dear either you are too naive or you think people are stupid. It's neither. The only thing is that people are powerless ---yes---just like the soviets

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Arif
Sep 06, 2014 12:59am

Imran... I beg of you, please stop this non sense. enough loss already

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Arif
Sep 06, 2014 01:02am

Imran does not know or care that there is war going in the country. He is so selfish!

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Mohammed A. Sukhear-USA
Sep 06, 2014 01:14am

@Zia Khan. You advocate Dharna until the demands are met and Qadri is asking for swings, coloring books and toys for the kids. since they will be there for a along time, he should also ask for suitable bridegrooms for the young girls and the middle aged women who have left their homes without the permission of their husbands because they are not welcome back home. I ask Mr. Qadri does Islam allow women to go for over 28 days without the consent of their husbands or a mahram?

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shehryar khan
Sep 06, 2014 01:25am

Why can IK stop his rhetoric. He has made citizens mad.

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Zoab Khan
Sep 06, 2014 01:26am

Good move by Imran. Go to D-Chowk. Where his supporters can come in and out more easily.

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Omer
Sep 06, 2014 02:12am

All these Political wars are being sustained by vengeance. At the end of the day everyone will get their revenge but there won't be anything left in Pakistan We are having Thar disaster, Floods, Terrorism and so on It's 6th September and we are going through worst floods in the history of Pakistan but nobody from inside and outside the Parliament is ready to help common Pakistanis who are suffering Right now the so called patriotic Pakistani shows more partisan towards their political parities, we are more Sindhi, Baluch, Pathan, & Punjabi and so on India make dams for Indians but here we can't as we are not so patriotic and Pakistani first but followers of our leaders. Irony is all leaders and their followers are slaves to their ego and thinks they are doing best for their country These moments are the saddest days in the history of Pakistan

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Zak
Sep 06, 2014 02:23am

All these outdated egotistical so called political leaders are of the past era. People are dieing on the streets and in the floods but all they can think of is trying to save their false pretend egos

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Omer
Sep 06, 2014 02:53am

@Zak included all either sitting in Parliament or outside on D chowk

Their egos will finish Pakistan During these day all should unite as one patriotic nation and play our part in helping flood victims as all did when we were hit by devastated earth quake

This is not the time now for donating for dharnas or visiting them and to have joint sessions in National Assembly

This is the time to donate and visit the flood affected areas

Unite as one nation

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Jawad
Sep 06, 2014 03:23am

@shehryar khan I think not.

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Adil Jadoon
Sep 06, 2014 03:38am

@Jahangir khan How much of that belongs to Mr. Sharif and his assoiciates??

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krishna prasad
Sep 06, 2014 04:56am

Your political leaders in parliament are united on one agenda. No army coup. No dictatorship. Then, who would be PM- then starts bickering. The elected ones are rigged, the defeated mourn. The real PM is out in the lawn sitting at D-chowk for the last 24 days or so waiting for his king maker chance helped by a 3rd empire who in the last minute hidden his tail between the legs are to a corner to look better. Unfortunately, these protesters kep the whole country development and activities in limbo and didn't spare even the judiciary and its chiefs in the diatribe. Unfortunate that there is no civic sense left in the fight by IK or Qadri. Needed to enforce law and treat them nicely behind bars.

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RH
Sep 06, 2014 05:36am

IK and Dr. Qadri, what about the flood victims? what about the people that are in dire need of support no? where are all your commitments you made long ago to Pakistan being the peoples Man. All that has change because of your obsession and Greed IK. You are not the person we thought we were. You exposed yourself in the last three weeks to your real self. Once more a big disappointment. IK GO HOME and let our democratic system grow and prosper we will filter out all given the time. EVERY ELECTION WILL BRING NEW PEOPLE AND CHANGE. That it is how other democratic country grew. we had only one smooth democratic transition so far lets all work for that to happen every five years and we will grow and our system will change.

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Asim
Sep 06, 2014 05:57am

Imran khan has successfully manage to destroy our relationship with our only ally--China. Now even that visit is canceled. Thanks a lot for ruining Pakistans friendship with china. Traitor.

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Arif
Sep 06, 2014 06:13am

D chowk or F chowk. I'm tired of this dharna

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Mohammed A. Sukhear-USA
Sep 06, 2014 09:16am

Imran Khan has made a complete U turn and decided to go back to D-Chowk. He never imagined in his wildest dreams that the protest will fizzle out after 4 weeks. He has complained for the lack of participation in the protest by his party

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omer khan shaheen
Sep 06, 2014 05:34pm

Bravo! PTI you changed, what these unworthy Parliamentarians couldn't in more then 6 decades. "A good change has finally come!"

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Mustafa
Sep 07, 2014 10:10am

Aitzaz and Nisar are both telling the truth about each other, but lying about themselves.

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Mureed of ImranQadri
Sep 07, 2014 04:54pm

Why the most controversial party in Pakistan has created controversies about the visit of Chinese President??

Imran Khan was found claiming in his comfy container that there was no plan of Chinese President to visit Pakistan!

Then Imran Khan and his mureeds started raising doubts about Chinese investments by calling them as "loans at 7%".

The government should now put Imran Khan under arrest to make the visit undisputed.

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Malikpur - Janderbari Abbottabad
Sep 07, 2014 05:50pm

Shame on you Mr. Khan, people like destroyed the country......do you think that nation cannot understand what you are doing and for whom you are doing all this.... really shame for PTI workers who supported you! FINISHED!

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Salim A
Sep 07, 2014 07:57pm

Democracy is a journey not a destination. It is a slow winding uphill walk rather than a mad dash by a mob. It takes generations to implement reforms and create a better government. Street agitation, destruction of private and public property never leads a nation towards democracy. Learn from history and other nations before it is too late.

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Taloot
Sep 08, 2014 01:46am

Now that the negotiations have begun, all will see how serious the govt is in resolving the issue. Even the govt's negotiating party consists of fin min (who is supposed to be a non-political person and a technocrat) and a Musharraf stooge. Rest of the ministers are mostly involved in stage drama like point scoring; no one takes them seriously any more. The deeper we get into it, more non-serious attitude of the govt will be seen; but for them it should be clear that the protesters cannot be simply wished away. Imran Khan has already won. Last time NS remained in Islamabad (which is supposed to be his office and official residence) for this long was probably when he was 10 years old. Lage Raho Imran Khan! we are with you.

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