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Professor Ibrahim Khan, Maulana Yousuf Shah and Maulana Abdul Aziz attend a joint news conference after their talks with government representatives in Islamabad, Feb 6, 2014. — File Photo by AP
Professor Ibrahim Khan, Maulana Yousuf Shah and Maulana Abdul Aziz attend a joint news conference after their talks with government representatives in Islamabad, Feb 6, 2014. — File Photo by AP

PESHAWAR: The Taliban Shura has finalised a fifteen point draft for negotiations with the Pakistan government and the draft proposal is likely to be handed over to the peace facilitators and their representatives who are in Waziristan, sources said.

The Taliban Shura had been meeting since Saturday under its deputy Ameer Sheikh Khalid Haqqani.

Professor Ibrahim Khan and Maulana Yousuf Shah who are in Waziristan for a meeting with the Taliban Shura are likely to convey these points to the committee formed by the government for mediation.

The points are:

• Stop drone attacks

• Introduce Sharia law in courts

• Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions

• Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails

• Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks

• Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces

• Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts

• All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped

• Prisoners from both sides to be released

• Equal rights for all, poor and rich

• Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs

• End interest based banking system

• Stop supporting the US on the war on terror

• Replace the democratic system of governance with Islamic system

• Break all relations with the US

Comments (136) Closed

Hawkguy Feb 09, 2014 06:28pm

Why don't we just hand them over the entire country?

ordinary_citizen Feb 09, 2014 06:30pm

What a waste of ink and paper. They could have just put 1 condition. Put entire Pakistani nation in a time machine and send them back 1000 years in time. Problem solved :-)

Saifi Feb 09, 2014 06:36pm

All points are appreciable but can't be applicable ..... All have to be surrender then can be applicable........ :) :)

Dr.Roy Feb 09, 2014 06:36pm

What left, why they are not saying it directly that handover Pakistan to them

Urooj Feb 09, 2014 06:40pm

Good luck negotiators - ab kar lo gal.

TARUN Durga Feb 09, 2014 06:45pm

Well all supporter or taliban and its cohort amongst educated youth should welcome these and accept the terms. They wanted talks and compromise with taliban . Feb 09, 2014 06:49pm

Excellent, I am speechless and expecting these terms.It must be so on in so called Islamic republic Pakistan but the only thing, who will dicide about no.14?

Pakistani Feb 09, 2014 06:52pm

So Taliban will make country economic power?Maybe they should also stop using American made phones, computers and other electronics as well. Wonder if they composed this doc on China made PC in Chinese or something. Anyhow, they seem to be really scared of drone attacks, double/ triple that so they know our nation does not bow to terrorists.

Qurban Unar Feb 09, 2014 06:52pm

The ttp wants to change the system of goverment as well as the ecnomic system of the country. They have denied to have dialogue within the parameters of constitution. The fiftefn points are totally against the constitution and are likely to make the country isolated in the world. Moreover, they also want a state of their own within the state free of law enforcement agencies means without any writ of the government. They are treating as a victor. How the committe is to discuss with them ? It seems very odd .

Hamza Feb 09, 2014 06:53pm

I am really amazed! Taliban are nice people, we should not judge them because of some rogues and scoundrel people calling themselves Taliban and uploading barbaric acts on Internet.These demands will not help them economically or by any means, these are for our own benefit.Long live Peace Pakistan.

Vikram Feb 09, 2014 06:55pm

16) Refuse all free AID (billions of dollars) from Western countries.

17) Rich Muslims should give Interest free loans to poor Muslims.

sohi Feb 09, 2014 06:56pm

Wow so many conditions. Are they crazy or what and what are they proving to do so. Before I was against the operation but now I think strict army and loyal operation should be enforced.

ahsan Feb 09, 2014 06:58pm


Salman Feb 09, 2014 06:58pm

15 jokes?

Pango Feb 09, 2014 07:10pm

I agree with one point the TTP has, Cut all ties with the USA, For us in America,that would be a blessing from God.The less we have to do with the backward ways of Islam the better America (and the world) will be!

Sophie Feb 09, 2014 07:15pm

One request to TTP and alliance .. Aap sab ALLAH ki rah may Shaheed ho jain ... Please.

Pakistani Feb 09, 2014 07:15pm

Lo kel lo mauzakrat

Ahmed Feb 09, 2014 07:23pm

Seems more like 15 iron walls. All bearing same strength. Each wall has the strength of 15 walls. Do the Taliban represent the mind set of the all common and sundry, is this what the population of Pakistan santa, if yes, then points have a validity, if not, then it would meen anyone can dictate what they like.

Seens like an agenda. and talks are set to fail.

Feudal Feb 09, 2014 07:31pm

Great. agreed.

Please also ask to ban influx of western technologies, cars, aeroplanes, machinery, communication systems. Let the crude oil arrive here from friendly ME on dhows. Stop all relations with the US except increase the size of the begging bowl.

Oh I forgot, you never mentioned to recover all money looted by previous and current rulers of Pakistan.

The nuclear technology is a western creation. Blow it up in disgust and sure enough you will have a clean slate to start with - as everyone including TTP will be wiped out.

Rao Muhammad Yunus Feb 09, 2014 07:32pm

Some conditions difficult.Lets see how govt respond?

Oz Feb 09, 2014 07:40pm

My response to each point;

1) Stop drone attacks - Agreed, but to root out taliban, surgical strikes should be taken.

2) Introduce Sharia law in courts - already in place via shariat courts.

3) Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions. - already in place as Islamiyat is compulsory - that is sufficient, for those who want a totally madrassah style learning, go join madrassahs, dont send your kids to other schools..

4) Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails - Put them on a public trial - criminals must be punished.

5) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks - claim that from US.

6) Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces - Yes, if only local forces means "state forces".

7) Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts - impossible, our army has right to stay on an inch of the country;s property under threat.

8) All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped - this is an UnIslamic request - Qasas should be practised for the innocents killed by taliban,

9) Prisoners from both sides to be released - that can be agreed, provided Taliban apologise and pay Khon Bahaa as per Islamic principles.

10) Equal rights for all, poor and rich - agreed.

11) Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs - agreed.

12) End interest based system - come with an alternative before that.

13) Stop supporting the US on the war on terror - agreed.

14) Replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system - the democratic system is an islamic system. The leader is chosen by the choice of the public on the grounds of their merit. This should be strengthened.

15) Stop all relations with the US - Impossible, this is against our economical interests, and the interests of millions of Pakistanis living in the west.

V. C. Bhutani Feb 09, 2014 07:51pm

Nawaz Sharif has strained common sense by claiming not so long ago that the two committees were acting aright. The Taliban

ZAF SID Feb 09, 2014 07:51pm

In other words, hand over the country to Taliban and make the Army subservient to them. Unbelievable!!!! Contrats for Mr. Prime Minister.

M. Sidique Feb 09, 2014 07:55pm

Now that TTP asks the government to surrender the constitution, the negotiations should and send TTP response in the language they understand.

Amarnath Feb 09, 2014 07:56pm

The only missing clause is hand over Pakistan to us

Sheraz Feb 09, 2014 07:58pm

Are we going live in stone age? I consider these demands as a joke. How can demand all charges need to be dropped. If they demand stuff for their people killed in drone strike than we are demanding justice in court for our people who killed in taliban attacks. Knock them off and do a decisive action.

Wasif Feb 09, 2014 08:00pm

Very short sighted approach by TTP. Points are carved by some immature people who doesn't even have experience of drafting such accords. Govt should question that why the foreign captured talibs should be released? they must be penalized under law. and why army should be with drawn from those areas. As tribal areas are part of Pakistan so forces should stay there but YES they must not engage themselves in any operations Ending all relations with US is beyond comprehension, with such demands these peace talks are going no where.

Ali Feb 09, 2014 08:03pm

This seems to be drafted by a 12 year old kid. What a joke, they might as well have asked for direct control of Islamabad and the nuclear aspects.

Anees Feb 09, 2014 08:04pm

To summarize all this, prepare for a military operation - once and for all.

Raphae Feb 09, 2014 08:06pm

So, in short, no interference of any kind from state in their areas yet they will dictate the state's matters?

sja Feb 09, 2014 08:18pm

Lesson in any negotiations start with Give and Take, but here the list may seems to mean or Simply put-or --- make it more easy--------"""" give up nothing and take it all."" The one way to negotiate for the love of God.

Emjay Feb 09, 2014 08:21pm

In short, let them rule the whole country the way they want from the tribal regions.

Human Feb 09, 2014 08:26pm

...after reading the 15 point draft I can say these talks will be heading nowhere

pathanoo Feb 09, 2014 08:29pm

Fifteen Taliban negotiation points OR Fifteen Surrender Points for Pakistan Government? Still want to negotiate and think there could be a sensible compromise?

SaeedS Feb 09, 2014 08:30pm

No more democracy and secularism. Demand of every Muslim in the world especially Pakistani. This mean TTP is the real representative of Muslim world.

Azmat Khan Feb 09, 2014 08:44pm

Very good news.Why to delay.It is all very easy and simple.Talban have solved the problem. PTI, JI, JUI ( F &S ) and other stake holders please quick march.Best of luck.

Bilal Feb 09, 2014 08:47pm

Not even a single term is acceptable for any person with sane.

Ali Feb 09, 2014 08:50pm

This is not going to work out. Make promises with only those who fulfill them. Imam Ali a.s. These parties in negotiations are mirror for each other. One would do anything to stay in the government the other would do anything to enforce Islam on the planet. Knowing there is no compulsion in religion. Holy Quran.

shah Feb 09, 2014 08:56pm

Another slap in the face of Imran Khan and everyone else who kept pushing for negotiations with Taliban. Once again TTP proves they are extremists with whom no negotations are even possible.

khalid Feb 09, 2014 08:58pm

This appears to be Swat all over,There are demands that cannit be met but what they want is control of the tribal areas so they can crush th local forces and take control.Ther will not be much of a prisoner exchange as they tend to behead most prisoners. It is a shame that a nation of 300 million is negotiating with a band of 20000 murderers,drug smugglers and petty criminals clad in the disguise of religion. They are responsible for fasad fil Ard and should be only given one option ' surrender or be destroyed"The Pakistan army if given the go ahead by the politicians is completely capable of taking care of them.After all the Army ran Mullah Fazlulah out of Swat with his tail between his legs.

Pakiswellwisher Feb 09, 2014 09:02pm

I can see Pakistanis in the most difficult moment of their history. This is more intense than Kashmir issue and other wars. This is about submission to criminals or live with a head held high. I can only say- You guys know what to do next. Good luck.

Mohammad Ali Khan Feb 09, 2014 09:03pm

This is a good recipe for falling back in to dark age.

Ali Feb 09, 2014 09:07pm

The list shows clearly once amd for all ttp wantcontrol of tribal areas and impose their crude interpretation of religion on others. Mr Khan please take note. Either side with these dark forces pr jpin the democratic fold so we can defeat these animals

Rashid Feb 09, 2014 09:24pm

Long live Pakistan, time to take revenge on those innocent soldiers, civilians killed by the Taliban.

Faisal Feb 09, 2014 09:29pm

Do they also need fries with that?

Riaz Feb 09, 2014 09:36pm

While some points are good - most of these demands will push Pakistan back into ancient ages. Until Pakistan becomes self-sufficient, I don't think Pakistan has a choice to end all the relations with USA. Unfortunately, Pakistan is highly dependent on the USA.

umar Feb 09, 2014 09:40pm

Cut the crap and bomb these barbarians once and for all.

DK Feb 09, 2014 09:44pm

If we simply put, they are asking to join them :)

KKRoberts Feb 09, 2014 09:47pm

It is Imran Khan's Formula.

Addy Feb 09, 2014 09:53pm

I say hand over FATA to TTP and save the rest of the country.

Imran Feb 09, 2014 10:05pm

They missed one point... stop education for girls. Why stop at Equal rights for all, poor and rich? The Taliban should have special rights that the constitutional law does not apply on them.

flanker Feb 09, 2014 10:11pm

Any country with self respect after reading such conditions would hunt down taliban till last man...

Bill Gates Feb 09, 2014 10:16pm

TTP are smoking some good quality CRACK, well they grow at the border. If Pakistan do there demands then Pakistani Govt. Need to let go a lot of their citizen to go to different country to live. TTP are going to put Pakistan back to future.

Shoib Feb 09, 2014 10:18pm

Nice points. I pray may Allah help in implementing these points. Ameen.

Ravi Feb 09, 2014 10:25pm

16 ) Stop using all technology invented by the US.Electricity, Airplanes, internet, computers, telephones...etc 17 ) Ban all thinking, Ban all questioning , Ban all reasoning ,Ban all doubt.

Ravi Feb 09, 2014 10:28pm

What happens when you STOP critically examining and Questioning your own beliefs ? You become a Prisoner of your own mind. Arise and Awake people of Pakistan. Question everything and Free yourself.

kck Feb 09, 2014 10:38pm

The 15 point agenda does not include a point to address how minorities will live in Pakistan under the TTP agenda if agreed by the parties.

Shahpur Feb 09, 2014 10:43pm

These guys honestly believe, Pakistan is Afghanistan, and they are Afghan Talibans and Islamabad is nothing more than Kabul and Karzai. Time to prosecute them for their crimes against the people of Pakistan.

Asad Feb 09, 2014 10:45pm

According to Imran khan "poor" Taliban were killing innocent civilians (in thousands) because of drone attacks. It seems they want a lot more than just seeing an end to drone attacks - They want to hijack our culture, our future, our everything from judicial system to education. They want to hijack Pakistan!

Wonder what all those who were opposing an army operation have to say now?

One solution - destroy them once and for all! And if at all possible, lock all the mullahs in the photo (add Sami ul Haq, munawar hasan, hafiz saeed, lashkare jhangvi & tayyaba) in a room and drop a bomb on them too.

Believe me Pakistan will turn a page for the better.. There is so much talent, man power, resources in our country it won't be too difficult to turn things around. Inshallah.

saleem Feb 09, 2014 10:48pm

Ha ha ha # Joke of century; the demands Fools of Millinea; the people demanding

NASAH (USA) Feb 09, 2014 10:50pm

16) Turn Pakistan into a country of cave dwellers!

NASAH (USA) Feb 09, 2014 10:53pm

17) Make Tora Bora the new capital of Pakistan!

Ali Hassan Bhatti Feb 09, 2014 10:54pm

What can i say? Where would be Quaid's Pakistan if we accept all 15 points from drug dealers and killer? Basically they want FATA under their control,Islam is just a shield to protect themselves.

Tahir Feb 09, 2014 10:54pm

This is hilarious stuff. How can the government negotiate with these people. None of these points are acceptable to us.

Komal S Feb 09, 2014 11:04pm

It is surpirsing to see 5 of the 15 demand are focussed on US and Drone attacks(No wonder they love the world famous fast bowler!) Looks like the US drone attacks has really hit them hard. 6 of the demands is directly in pakistan Government/Army control withdraw forces give back control, release prisoners etc... On all of these popular sentiments is in line with Taliban. 4 of the demands are to do with system change make Pakistan more Islamic, again here most of the Pakistanis will agree with Taliban. Only question though is move from democratic system to islamic system. How does that work? Is saudi arabia a good example of that? So only work left for Pakistan is to re-package the democracy into some kind of Islamic system and everybody will be happy. whether that is going to help Pakistan is a very different question?

Laeeq Feb 09, 2014 11:07pm

Well Pakistan need to put up it own demands. They could be following. 1-Lay down your arms. 2-Accept the Pakistan constitution and obey it 3-Bring any changes through the democratic way 4-Pay to the victims families and any damage to the civilian and military properties. 5-Integrate tribal areas to main land Pakistan 6-Expel all foreign born terrorist ( including Afghans) from their territory. 7-Guarantee the safeguard of minorities and their places of worships. 8-Guarantee the free access to education of women. 9-No attacks on the neighboring countries from their areas. 10. Provide no refuge to Afghan Talibans in their territory.

Juned Noonari Feb 09, 2014 11:10pm

Looks like TTP forgot to put one more point.. 16- Go back to stone age

maryam Feb 09, 2014 11:18pm

Ridiculous! And btw what does Islamic education system mean?

Where is the compensation for the people they killed...?

Iqbal khan Feb 09, 2014 11:32pm

In another words hand over Pakistan to talbans.I guess the best solution is drone.

sb Feb 09, 2014 11:32pm

Non starter. Are these people living in a real world ? Uneducated; illiterate; Ignorant & arrogant. Force is the only thing they understand, and therefore the Government must deal with them with force. No prisoner taking.

independentthinker Feb 09, 2014 11:38pm

.... In other words, isolate us from the rest of the world and bring us back to the stone ages! Sharia laws were written centuries ago and were written by men - they are not God's command. A lot has changed over the centuries and unless we keep up with the new trend, we will not be able to survive. This is not to say that we should compromise our values and morals. It just means we cannot keep the same thinking, where women are considered "properties", girls are not allowed education, music/television shows are not allowed, so on and so forth. Strictly following Sharia laws has not helped any country succeed. We are a Muslim country, but we should also be tolerant towards other religions. We should encourage our citizens to get education, without which our thinking capacity stays limited. Without education, we are vulnerable to being brainwashed by extremists. It is a waste of time to negotiate with these extremists - nothing good will ever come out of it. They can only learn one way - and that is by force. Pakistan has the capability to apply their might on them - for the sake of our country - I sure hope they use it.

M J Syed Feb 09, 2014 11:40pm

OK. Let us now start asking the rest of the people in Pakistan as to what they want. Should we in the end do what majority wants? Or let us just ignore them.

Topak Zama Khanoon Feb 09, 2014 11:45pm

Really! I am just wondering if this was written by some illiterate kid from one of their madrasas while he was going through is shaking syndromes.......

M J Syed Feb 09, 2014 11:45pm

These demands at the very best are naive. These people have no idea of the difficulties of governance. No one with the best will in the world is capable of implementing these. Some would not even be acceptable to people the others are ideals to which the best governments in the world can only just aspire. There is no hope for a serious dialogue with these people.

M J Syed Feb 09, 2014 11:46pm

Is there anything they would do in return?

TKhan Feb 10, 2014 12:07am
  1. Poppy should be the national crop.
  2. Naswar should be national desert. 18 Chappali Kabob should be national food.
  3. Only sports allowed is shooting balloons on a board with a gun.
  4. And of course they forgot the kitchen sink.
Ali Feb 10, 2014 12:09am

Utter joke and waste of time. An operation by the forces is the only solution.

Khan Feb 10, 2014 12:10am

and take the nation back to 2000 years while rest of the world is moving forward. What a crock/

Sayed Feb 10, 2014 12:16am

Are they serious? I can't believe the government is actually entertaining this rubbish. Introduce "shariah" courts? So long as the first ones to be tried are the Taliban and their ilk, go crazy.

nasim Feb 10, 2014 12:27am

Good luck Mr Nawaz Sharif. You knew this was expected.

Waqar Khan Feb 10, 2014 12:39am

how about we just bomb the whole Taliban, and kill each one of them? seriously, what kind of 15 points demand is this?

Ali Raza Feb 10, 2014 12:54am

These guys are funny.

atif Feb 10, 2014 01:11am

Is this a joke? Lets just wait for this drama to end so we can go on and do what is actually required:start destroying them and severely restrict their political and intellectual backers.

Canuck Feb 10, 2014 01:22am

Also please prepare all Talibans for space flight for their one way trip to Mars. I hear Mars needs Sharia law too.

Torontonian Desi Feb 10, 2014 02:13am

If these are the conditions of the Taliban, we can kiss any hopes of reaching a lasting peace agreement goodbye. I dont see the govt giving up the democratic system of governance and replacing it with the Islamic system; interest-free banking, in my opinion, will never be abolished; if by Islamic system of education, these guys mean Madrassa-style teaching, that aint gonna happen (but clarification is needed on that), and most of all.......we can never, in a million years, cut off ties with the U.S. I wanna say that drone attacks will eventually stop, but realistically, I dont see that happening any time soon. Sorry folks, but these "peace-talks" are just gonna end in vain.

SaleemA Feb 10, 2014 02:38am

Here are the demands by TTP. I have listed them and have also suggested possible solutions. If we use our brains and be diplomatic, it's a win win situation. Think carefully before jumping to any conclusions! The points and possible solutions are as follows: 1) Stop drone attacks. Ok easy one. Agree 2) Introduce Sharia law in courts. It's already there but needs to be enforced. Agree 3) Introduce Islamic system of education in both public and private educational institutions. Again it's already there but needs to be enforced. Agree 4) Free Pakistani and foreign Taliban captured in jails. Sure! Subject to fair trail. Agree 5) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during drone attacks. Yes. Agree 6) Hand over control of tribal areas to local forces. Yes. Agree 7) Withdrawal of army from tribal areas and close down check posts Yes only after restoration of law and order. Agree 8) All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped. Yes, but subject to through investigations case by case and subject to law 9) Prisoners from both sides to be released. Again subject to trial and case by case. 10) Equal rights for all, poor and rich. Yes. Agree 11) Families of drone attack victims to be offered jobs. Yes agree 12) End interest based system. Yes easy. Agree 13) Stop supporting the US on the war on terror. Yes Agree 14) Replace the democratic system of governance with the Islamic system. Islamic system is democratic. So only question of clarification 15) Stop all relations with the US. Yes agreed. Subject to commitments already entered into.

kz Feb 10, 2014 02:44am

If Sharia Law is brought in can we start by implementing it on the TTP first, particularly the bit about murder of innocents.

Sarwat Feb 10, 2014 02:53am

While they are at it why not hand over entire Pakistan to them so that they can have their lunatic ideas of Islam by force imposed over the Pakistani people. They were not at all serious about talks. They will undermine authority of Pakistani government armed forces, free will of Pakistani people. Terrorists are just buying time to recollect, reorganize and consolidate their forces. It was a mistake to even give them a chance to even breath. Throw them all in the brig and forget about them.

Mustafa Feb 10, 2014 03:32am

I suggest the following answers to the first 3 conditions. More will follow:

  1. Government has already requested America to stop drone attacks. If Pakistan cannot stop Taliban killing innocent Pakistani men, women and children as well as Pakistani soldiers, how could Pakistan stop a greater power like America to stop drone attacks? This condition is unacceptable.

  2. There will be Sharia courts to try out the militants and terrorists for their un-Islamic acts of bombing, killing of innocent Pakistani men, women and children. Once this has been done, the Sharia Court will try other cases.

  3. Pakistan has many Ulemas to advise government where current laws are against Islam and what changes should be made to agree with teachings of Islam. Given the conduct of Taliban that are all against Islam, government does not need their advice in Islamic matters.

Khalid Feb 10, 2014 03:40am

The answers are, Dear TTP, following are the answers to your conditions:

01) NO 02) NO 03) NO 04) NO 05) NO 06) NO 07) NO 08) NO 09) NO 10) NO 11) NO 12) NO 13) NO 14) NO 15) NO

mrmela Feb 10, 2014 03:50am

this clearly asks for operation! this is dictation!

Vikram Feb 10, 2014 05:07am

Dream come true for Pakistan, finally a step towards making Pakistan a truly Islamic country. Pakistani women should start buying burqas and men should start growing beards. Let the fun begun.

Ayaz Feb 10, 2014 05:34am

Where is the government's draft of key conditions? At the minimum Taliban ought to lay down arms and live as law abiding citizens ...

Anon Feb 10, 2014 05:35am

The points proposed by the Taliban are a slap on the face of Imran Khan. Who just a few days ago told us that the Taliban were not interested in the implementation of talibani sharia in the country. It is due time for the delusional khan to wake up.

Zameer Feb 10, 2014 06:35am

Nice script. Taliban ke 15 nuqaad, Azadi ke separhio'n ko 14 nuqaad lagay thay Pakistan ko bananay may, ab barbaadi ke mujahido'n ko 15 nuqaad lagein gay Pakistan ko 67 saal peechay phenknay may.

numbersnumbers Feb 10, 2014 07:01am

HMMM, no mention of any consequences for those responsible for the slaughter and maiming of many tens of thousands of Pakistanis over the last decade??????

Reza Feb 10, 2014 07:13am

30 years ago, this article would have felt like a fictional piece of writing. Cant believe this is happening in Pakistan...

Faraz Azhar Feb 10, 2014 07:21am

Why should our country let "All criminal allegations held against the Taliban to be dropped." These people have killed countless people and they require themselves to be set free? In another world.

Pakistani Students Feb 10, 2014 07:23am

Here are 11 points agenda of Students of Pakistan:

1) Stop terrorists attack on all Pakistanis including polio workers and minorities 2) Talibans criminals who committed crimes will be tried in Sharia courts first before any Pakistani 3) Free Pakistani captured by terrorists 4) Restoration and remuneration for damage to property during terrorist attacks of Talibans. 5) Complete hand over control of tribal areas to law enforcement forces. 6) Withdrawal of terrorist from tribal areas and close down terrorist cells from Karachi, Blochistan, Punjab and KFP. 7) Equal rights for all, minorities including Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus and Shias 8) Families of terrorist attack victims to be offered compensations from terror network funding resources 9) End terrorists funding network 10) Stop supporting the Pakistan's enemies 11) Stop all relations with the terror organizations

someone Feb 10, 2014 07:28am

Finally, Afghans dictating terms in Pakistan. Way to go.

Amjad Wyne Feb 10, 2014 08:33am

Well, if Taliban have so many issues with Pakistan then why don't they leave Pakistan and live someplace else.

Shahid Nadeem Feb 10, 2014 09:12am

The intellectual bottom-line of the TTP is becoming more and more evident as the negotiations move forward. The 15 points ridiculous draft for talks clearly suggests that they do not know what they want. They are demanding a stop to the drone attacks. They should know that the drones are there because of them. If they were bold enough and fighting against US forces in Afghanistan and not holed up in North Wazirastan there were no drones. They should be responsible for the payment of money to the victims of drones attacks because it was because of them that innocent people died of drone strikes. Furthermore, their most of the demands has been the demands of the Pakistani people for many years anyway. They did not have to kill so many people to come to that point. They must know that they have blood of many innocent muslins on their hand regardless of their so called Islamic agenda. The can not fool people anymore.

Mohsin Feb 10, 2014 09:12am

So, here is the big list.. I m surprised nothing which cant be done.. maybe a couple where we can negotiate.. I mean its Islamic Republic of Pakistan and for a Muslim there is nothing better then sharia... I dont c anything wrong with it.. So, now there shouldnt be any excuse for our lame government... But then again who wants peace in the first place!!! Good luck Pakistani living in Pakistan.. Us overseas Pakistanis can only advice or "Send Money".. U guys just sit back and do nothing as usual..

Majaz Amin Feb 10, 2014 09:18am

and the last one is:-

16) and go to the caves.

Sunil Sinha Feb 10, 2014 09:48am

Taliban seems want to be above law.

Moby Moby Feb 10, 2014 10:11am

The forgot the most important demand - that a copy of the Quran be read to them with translation so these hypocrites can see the error of their ways - the jahils who violate many commandments of the Quran against the use of force for religion.,

ScKhan Feb 10, 2014 11:15am

They could have saved everybody some time by simply stating, "When hell freezes over!"

Anonym Feb 10, 2014 11:27am

So, they lost control of Afghanistan, and now they are asking the government to turn Pakistan into pre 911 Afghanistan and hand it to the Taliban on a silver platter! to do with as they please! time to bomb them please. we can all see they are unreasonable.

abu sami Feb 10, 2014 03:07pm

Pak government will run away from these points. All points raised by talibans go against USA and Pakistani rulers.

Adil Feb 10, 2014 03:11pm

What about the punishment for taliban for killing innocent people? i cant find that point

yahya Feb 10, 2014 09:20pm

@Ravi: what are you talking about?

sadia Feb 10, 2014 09:33pm

Its so strange to see current goverment negotiating with the criminals who killed thousand of innocent people, killed our teachers, killed women, killed our army men, killed polio workers.Perhaps all the children of these politicians are safe and geting educated in Europe or USA. So why should they care. They will talk and hand over them all areas because the people of Pakistan are only supposed to die by criminal talibans while politicians can earn all money from Pakistanis to make their and their families living outside of pakistan. I love my army and I hope army kills each and every taliban and extremist in our country.

Rizwan Feb 10, 2014 09:33pm

History will tell who z right and who z wrong. Don't see the situation with media prism.

yahya Feb 10, 2014 10:19pm

this is all a sideshow. the us govt has been pushing the idea of breaking up pakistan for a long time and now is a very good time to take it to the next level. the speech by a us congressman on baluchistan is not a coincidence.

the call to implement islam in all aspects is a valid one though. after all the country was established for that same reason. it's a shame that no progress has been made on that front in the last 65yrs. and now it is being used as a bargaining chip. what a shame. the country has tried democracy, military rule, a mixture of the two but all has failed. we have moved back instead of moving forward. the people need islam as a system, just not the version pushed by certain groups.

Joe Feb 10, 2014 10:25pm

Suggestion: Tell them that Gen. Musharraf will be appointed to command the team who will deal with them. See how quickly they will modify their demands.

asif hussain Feb 10, 2014 11:07pm

Well TTP has come up with one good condition, give them another 500 years and they will come up with 14 other reasonable conditions. Never the less negotiations is the only solution.

Just Someone Feb 10, 2014 11:27pm

@Mustafa: very well said.

bkh Feb 11, 2014 12:14am

Stop drone attacks: Agreed provided all antisocial activities ceases

Zul Feb 11, 2014 02:19am

@Pakistani Students: Good points Can you add one more -- Ask them to take with them all our corrupt politicians.

Khalid Feb 11, 2014 02:25am

@kz: Totally agree. Implement sharia law for one day. Round up all Pakistani Talibans. Put them behind bars for ever.

Khalid Feb 11, 2014 02:27am

@Canuck: I agree. Mars needs a lot of Talibans.

Farooq Feb 11, 2014 05:26am

Nothing will change untill the Pak-Afghan border is completely sealed. Army kills them and there will be more crossing the border into tribal areas from Afghanistan. Seal the border once you have the control over the tribal areas and peace will prevail.

someone Feb 11, 2014 06:53am

@Sophie: Yours was the funniest comment i must say ;)

Zahra Qadeer Feb 11, 2014 10:07am

@Mohsin: You are one sick twisted person. That's right all you can do is give advice. Why don't you come here and live here and then I'll see how your words change within days. Introducing Shariah Law will make us true Muslims is that what you're trying to say? You say PEACE, you think by agreeing to this draft we will have peace?

You certainly need a reality check.

Syed Feb 11, 2014 12:38pm

TTP is leaving no option. These peace terms are basically demands for a surrender. Now, all Pakistanis should unite against Talibans and commit to a serious action to get rid off TTP elements once and forever. Pakistan will never see peace as long as Taliban lives. I have supported Imran Khan in his stance for peace talks. But, these demands show Talibans non-commitment to peace talks. It is time that Imran Khan re-shape his policy to full scale war against Talibans. Army has its own agenda and they will not fight this war seriously. Pakistanis will have to take charge of their own destiny.

Wrest Corp Feb 11, 2014 02:59pm

Not all point are ingenuine, but most of the points needs rigorous negotiations to work out a Deal.

Muhammed Ali Feb 11, 2014 05:25pm

Told you it was a non starter.

PeaceMonger Feb 11, 2014 05:38pm

All these conditions were known beforehand. What is the point of this dialogue? Can these conditions be met??

sja Feb 11, 2014 06:35pm

Whose sharia ??? They say you should be living example of what you preach. Except for bearing long beards what else is Shariaful in the conduct of those who demand for sharia? They have to do a lot of soul searching to find the real Sharia which says first do not kill innocent and do not kill yourself -- LIFE IS PRECIOUS and they say CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME and so also the Sharia should start from home by example and not by beards alone or weapons drawn.

Wallahoo alaaam bisawaaab??

khanm Feb 11, 2014 06:43pm

It is the blunder of the past that blasts

RajaAK Feb 12, 2014 04:58am

Might as well send Pakistan 100 years back in to the past if the govt meets these demands. They have no respect for the rule of law and the Pakistani state. The army needs to step up and kill them all.

Sameer Feb 12, 2014 06:34am

Im a PTI follower,i supported peace talk even though i didn't wanted to, but i believed in Imran Khan till the end, thought IK will stop the Taliban from killing our people through negotiation, cause he said that the Talibans wanted peace talk which are going to be unconditional, so all we have to do is just stop the drone attacks which are killing them and in return they kill us, if we stop the drones we'll have ceasefire from TTP,

Now when the talks are finally in mode and now that they've put up these conditions and when i read them....... now im really pissed off. I take back my words, so no peace talk !, no negotiation !, this is our land !, we own it !, We have full autonomy, we can be whatever we want to be in our life, and will keep on enjoying it and wouldn't let any conservative force like TTP to rule us and manipulate our lives, so im sorry this is just unacceptable! i want this country to move forward to progress not backwards and so now i completely support military action, i want these criminals to be completely eliminated from the face of this earth.

But not through drone attacks, i want them to be permanently stopped, cause they do kill our Waziri brothers in Fata. Its our nation!!, we protect it ourselves!!, not by getting help from some foreign country !!!,if we have criminals!!, gangs! and virus like Taliban! we deal with them ourselves, so say no to drone strikes !

I support full military action on the ground, and the army should take high civilian casualties measures before carrying it out, civilians from Fata should be completely evacuated so they wouldn't get killed in the military operation and then when they are done evacuating them start wiping out the parasites aka Talibans which are infecting in Fata. Nonstop 24 hours operation !!!

And if we get successful in curbing out these bastards,then get all the Mullah's and Mulanas who supported TTP , kill each and every single one of them, that they cease to exist and never return to life, just like how "Mustafa Kamal Atartuk" of Turkey did, he got rid of these Hajis, Mullahs who were getting in his way and look at where Turkey is now, on top of the world.

Mustafa Feb 12, 2014 09:35am

As I said before, I am submitting more suggestions:

Last Word Feb 12, 2014 06:01pm

Great news. Pakistan would soon become number one tourist destination, where people all over the world would be visiting to see the conditions prevailing during stone-age.

Asim Feb 12, 2014 08:19pm

@Sheraz: Very well said. 100% agreed. Knock them off!

aamir Feb 12, 2014 11:56pm

It is time that we should get united, and fight against TTP