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Pardon for Shahzeb killers triggers debate

Published Sep 10, 2013 06:46am


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Shahzeb Khan. —File photo
Shahzeb Khan. —File photo

KARACHI: The pardon of a business tycoon’s son and his three accomplices on Monday in the Shahzeb murder case by the family of the deceased has triggered a debate as the legal fraternity believed that under the law the convicts could not be exonerated in this manner, but religious scholars did not find the move in clash with any clause of Shariah.

The lawyers recognised Section 309 (waiver of qisas in qatl-i-amd) of the Pakistan Penal Code, but they believed that it could not favour Shahrukh Jatoi, Siraj Talpur, Sajjad Talpur and Ghulam Murtaza Lashari because they were convicted under the Anti-terrorism Act.

“The accused were tried by an anti-terrorism court because they were charged under Section 7-A of the ATA,” said Muhammad Farooq, a Sindh High Court lawyer with expertise in criminal cases.He said the accused could have been pardoned by the aggrieved family if they were tried under the PPC, but they were convicted under the ATA for a non-compoundable offence.

Mr Farooq said the defence lawyer should have convinced the appellate court that his clients should not be tried under the ATA because it was a simple murder case. Had the appellant bench been satisfied, Section 7-A of the ATA could have been removed from the charge sheet and the accused tried by a regular court.

“Under the ATA, terrorism is not an offence against an individual or a family, but a crime against society and the state,” he said.

Khawaja Naveed Ahmed, Advocate, said the aggrieved family could only pardon the convicts if the case was tried under the PPC.

He said that in case of pardon by the deceased family, the punishment would become invalid only under the PPC, but it would stay unaffected if it was handed down under the ATA.

But Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman did not see the Shahzeb family’s pardon contrary to the teachings of Islam and Sharia. Islamic law allowed the aggrieved family to settle the dispute with the accused under three conditions.

“First, the aggrieved party can ask the state to execute the accused if he or she is found guilty. Second, they can compromise with the guilty party after receiving a certain amount of money, which is not fixed in Islam. Third, they can pardon the convicts in the name of Allah. I think they (Shahzeb’s family) went for the third option,” he said.

He, however, said that it was a responsibility of the state to ensure that there was no pressure on the aggrieved family and no unlawful means were involved.

DEAL?: Unconfirmed reports of a multi-million rupee deal between the aggrieved family and the convicts went viral on social and broadcast media.

One TV channel claimed that the Jatois had paid about Rs350 million as compensation to the family of Shahzeb. It also said that the aggrieved family had planned to settle abroad.

But Shahzeb’s mother denied these reports and said that a ‘malicious campaign’ had been launched against her family by certain elements.

“We have forgiven the killers of our son only in the name of Allah,” Ambreen Khan was quoted as saying by another TV channel. “We have not received even a penny and we all are here in Pakistan.

We can even produce our passports which have no visa stamps of any country.


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Malikk Sep 10, 2013 07:14am

It was all set from Day1 that this matter will be settled & it is merely a time that all the parties decided to finalize the deal & since everyone is happy the opening of debate does not make sense.

99 Sep 10, 2013 07:19am

Sad to read this, sick to the pit of my stomach. Was that not the case prior to the preislamic period. Here the parents are being forced to withdraw the case/pardon issue & some ignorants are calling this case according to Allah's/Quranic orders. May ALLAH be the protector of not well to do/poors.

Nasir Sep 10, 2013 08:52am


yusuf Sep 10, 2013 10:12am

Disgraceful behaviour! Forgiving those terrible killers will ensure that civil society will now think a hundred times before extending ANY kind of support to 'victims' like you. No wonder Waderas roam and behave the way they do.

UnWadera Sep 10, 2013 10:34am

The waderas are trying to buy everything. A very dangerous precedent for the society at large.

Mirza Sep 10, 2013 11:25am

This again proves the law of jungle is still prevalent...Mighty have won over weak!

Yousaf Sep 10, 2013 11:36am

A murder is just not just a crime against a victim but also a crime against the State. Pardoning these murderers is a joke.

Faisal Ayub Sep 10, 2013 12:01pm

so you did injustice to your own son in the name of Allah???

Salman Sep 10, 2013 12:13pm

How sad ! it is almost certain Shahzeb's parents were coerced into accepting blood money.

mansoor Sep 10, 2013 12:17pm

Another victory for the wealthy and influential. Don't you just love this country.

FJ Siddiqui Sep 10, 2013 12:27pm

In Islam, if the matter gets to a court then it is only the court that decides the fate of accused based on evidence. Right of family to settle the dispute outside court stands suspended unless the court, after all the proceedings, feels that the convicted can be given any concession. If so, then, the court gives the family of the murdered person the option to decide whether to take blood money (di'yat') or forgive.

If the Islamic law is applied in the way it is then there is no confusion. Debate is there only because 'Islamic law' is implemented after distortion.

Ahmed Sep 10, 2013 01:10pm

Sad demise of morality. yet again rise of the wrongful

Asif Sep 10, 2013 01:14pm

so, whats new?

Shah Sep 10, 2013 01:38pm

if anyone who has seen the way they came out of court singing and dancing ... it's an insult and shame for us all who are watching this drama. Their reactions shows they have no remorse and the Court must overturn the pardon cause the killers will do it again in future and this time the blood is on us cause we allowed it.

KUkhan Sep 10, 2013 01:42pm

Time and again, proves that you can get away with murder, rape, etc., if you have the right contacts and money. The parents of Shahzeb may not be at fault; probably they were offered a proposal which they could not refuse (accept the money or risk the life of other children). What a closure to a tragedy! Democracy and justice or sheep herded by wolves for easy pickings?

Cosmic Lion Sep 10, 2013 01:49pm

Did not knew this kind of justice existed in Pakistan. Pakistan is much closer to Middle East than i ever imagined.

Akram Sep 10, 2013 01:55pm

the killers should be executed, plain and simple. all this arbitrary mullah inspired elements of Islamic injunctions in such cases should be expunged from law, all they are doing is impeding the delivery of justice, which is what Islam is actually for. Not mullah law.

Gerry D'Cunha Sep 10, 2013 01:57pm

in pakistan the rich and heavy weights can even buy justice - corrupt police; corrupt lawyers and corrupt judges, who does not know? deals are made in judges chambers and verdicts in the court

Umair Sep 10, 2013 02:08pm

Only in the name of Allah? sure Mrs Ambreen. Why all the hoo-haa on TV and Newspapers for never forgiving your 'only' sons killers earlier? What makes us believe that a guy who can send his son to Dubai with a fake passport in minutes couldn't have given you an extra one for media-show too. Enjoy your life.

Mahin Sep 10, 2013 02:15pm

How can they let him loose, they have killed now and they will again and then more people will kill without thinking.

how would this mother feel when this person let free by her pardon will kill some one else 5 years down the road.

they society supported them and now they need to give it back to the society.......

AHA Sep 10, 2013 02:57pm

"...but religious scholars did not find the move in clash with any clause of Shariah.". Absolutely correct. Religion favors the rich and the powerful, and is biased against the weak.

adee Sep 10, 2013 03:01pm

As we know that police is most corrupt and like a cancer in our society now i am convinced that we cannot expect some good from the police. shahzeb dad a DSP made media both electronic and social crazy just to get best offer after the killing of his son. if wanted to pardon the killers than why he created so much drama. now we know...

Arslan Ahmad Sep 10, 2013 03:26pm

Again another example have proven for Pakistanis that Might is Right?

Zafar Abbas Sep 10, 2013 03:23pm

Imam Ali (AS) said, a society will exist without Islam but not without justice. So those who say Pakistan for ever, should learn something. Imam Ali (AS) cant be wrong. It is the existence of Pakistan which is being jeopardized with such things.

AZ Sep 10, 2013 03:38pm

Sain to Sain.... Sain ka kutta bhi Sain

waderey ka beta .... Waderey ka beta

Mir Sep 10, 2013 03:42pm

A sad reminder that money and power will always triumph justice.

Kevin Sep 10, 2013 03:50pm

So the Murderers bought their life back ? Who said Money couldn't buy Life ? Won't they be even executed for keeping the illegal Unlicensed weapon used for terrorism ?

James Sep 10, 2013 04:30pm

That's very sad to see in this case. Parents taken 35 cores and make the settlement and sooner they are going to fly to Australia.

Asim Rao Sep 10, 2013 04:30pm

Clearly - a sad moment - where the powerful won and thus the hope of Pakistan becoming a country where Law and peace lives - is continuing ...

All murderers should be behind bars for at least 10 years (minimum)

Ali Sep 10, 2013 04:32pm

This whole nation is up for sale.

khanm Sep 10, 2013 04:39pm

It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they belong to powerful and well connected families in Pakistan. Eventually the weak will scum to pressure and threats

Ali Sep 10, 2013 04:39pm

This whole nation is up for sale.

Nooruddin Sep 10, 2013 05:09pm

anyone who is for Justice is sad, angry and disappointed. Good example $$ can do any thing. Sorry Shazeb!

pure_consiousness Sep 10, 2013 05:26pm

Unless Islam is reformed by good muslims themselves, there is no way out for their poor/innocent/powerless souls.

Asif Sep 10, 2013 05:57pm

so whats new people of Pakistan?

Raj Patel Sep 10, 2013 06:03pm

Somebody should asked his father / family members that who will be responsible for killing / indulging any criminal activity by these culprit here after their release? Who will be responsible for agony of future victims and their family ? Powerful man pardoned poor man is called pardon but poor man pardoned is called a DEAL.

Saad Khan Sep 10, 2013 06:02pm

I knew this was coming...never expected it to be this soon! Feel ashamed of being Pakistani...looking forward to change my nationality at soonest possible!

a Sep 10, 2013 06:06pm

And the elite, corrupt goes free yet again. It happens only in Pakistan. Shame.

Miss syed Sep 10, 2013 06:07pm

Such a bright young man died. intentionally murdered by those monsters. ask the parents of the deceased, i can't imagine the magnitude of the pain they must have taken this enormous decision in. Pakistani law could have never provided justice. Pardoning is just a means to let them have an easy escape. May Allah grant the parents of the deceased enough strength to cope with his loss and also the onslaught of our judgemetal society.

Those boys who shot him will also enter their graves one day! And, as My Lord Says: Is not Allah the best of Judges? How will you young men survive after killing an innocent boy.

May Allah save Pakistan from the evils of distorting Shariah Law and using it to suit the Powerful.

Asif Sep 10, 2013 06:15pm

Sad is not the word. I pity this nation called Pakistan.

farid Sep 10, 2013 06:19pm

Wrongful influence of the Arab culture on our society.

Asad Khan Sep 10, 2013 06:22pm

The family can forgive, but it is state's responsibility that these cold blooded murderers don't see the light of day and remain in jail to protect other people. A message should be given that this kind of act will not be tolerated, no matter who you are??

Syed Sep 10, 2013 06:46pm

And the shameless, convicted criminal is waving victory sign in the face of this unfortunate nation.

Syed Sep 10, 2013 06:46pm

Why keeping other criminals, who were unfortunately caught doing petty crimes. Free all of them, and convert the jails into Marriage Halls

S. Israr Ali Sep 10, 2013 07:00pm

It has been argued time and again by the Islamic religious scholars of eminence that if one kills a human person, he kills the whole humanity and if he saves the life of even one person, he saves the life of whole humanity. The matter has come to be finally decided and conviction as a result of a judicial process having been given all opportunities to all sides.

If that really is the yardstick and truly the commandment of Shariah, then who the family of murdered is to single handedly pardon on behalf of whole humanity a person who has committed murder of whole mankind. The laws of pardon under this commandment appears to be flawed.

nomi Sep 10, 2013 07:09pm

how can a murder be pardoned? This is a crime against humanity and should be punished accordingly regardless of personal prerogative. What's stopping them from going around killing another bunch of people?

amna Sep 10, 2013 07:14pm

Such an indiscrimination in our society which is really leading to the victory of elite class? They always remain free from any comeuppance

Khan Sep 10, 2013 07:17pm

Unbelievable. If the family did not receive any money then they must have been under pressure or threats to withdraw their case. If they really wanted to forgive in the name of Allah then they should have done that from day one. The accused in this case has openly said from the beginning that he will get away and he did get away in the end.

Mamataz Sep 10, 2013 07:18pm

Misuse of Islamic teachings for money. The pardon rule was meant to dissolve tribal conflicts in a bygone era of desert life. Now it is a means to use murder as a lottery ticket!! What a farce.

bigjoe Sep 10, 2013 07:23pm

why no goes out and protest

Caz Sep 10, 2013 07:21pm

The shariah is a primitive legal system based on semitic customs and social practices. The Qisas is a good example of the iniquity inherent in the shariah in that it favours the rich over the poor. A poor man who commits a murder will face the death penalty because he would not have the money to pay to the victim's family by way of compensation. In western jurisprudence the crime is against the state and not only the individual. The islamic shariah has no place in a modern society.

Ehsan Sep 10, 2013 07:51pm

Allah has created death as the first phase of his universal justice system. Death is followed by life in the grave, next is the day of judgment, and finally the eternal life in heaven or hell based on one's actions in this life. Yes, the Jatoi's and Talpur appear to have held sway over a less powerful family in the short term.

At the same time, this is a temporary state and they are the losers for eternity. This life will pass in the blink of an eye. Shahzeb is in a grave wrongly killed by one of the lower class pharoah's of our time.

Jatoi and Talpur will take a dirt nap too. Yet their dirt nap will be miserable followed by eternal life in hell. When you take the longer term view of this situation, who is the ultimate winner and who is the ultimate loser?


Usman Sep 10, 2013 07:51pm

@Mir: Yes you are right my friend

Dr Ahmad Sep 10, 2013 07:54pm

Money can do wonders in this "land of pure". You can buy what ever you wish, only if you have the means, and everything is for sale in this "land of pure" but price have to be right. The news is that the Shah Zeeb family are now intending to move to Australia. God bless Australia from such elements!!

jordanian Sep 10, 2013 08:04pm

Im trying to love pakistan and pakistani but every time they become worse than before so SHAMEFUL

Mansoor Sep 10, 2013 08:03pm

4 killers loose in society, state is happy, Islam is happy. Should we worry?

Rogers Evans Sep 10, 2013 08:20pm

It is a big humikiation to he laws of Pakistan. It shows that life is cheaper and money is winner.

Javed Sep 10, 2013 08:38pm

Their family created such a scene when this incident happened. The whole country was with them. The law enforcement did their part in bringing the murderer from Dubai, put his father in jail until the son was back in Pakistan. The judiciary did their part in convicting the murderer and the family is backing out? If Jahanzeb is watching all this, I am sure he is really offended. Regardless of the fact that they are just forgiving or they are taking the Qisas, either way this is setting up a bad example for the future. Rich people and their kids will get away from stuff like this and poor will get punished. This should not happened. All four should be punished as per the verdict.


Khalid Sep 10, 2013 08:52pm

Criminals should not be set free, if you don't punish them than they'd keep scaring the public, it's the law that we are fail to implement which in courages the aggressors to continue playing with system, governament needs to take a serious action in this matter and should provide the safety and security to the victims family.

Muhammad Sep 10, 2013 08:59pm

Murder is a murder- a crime against an individual, family AND the society. It should not matter whether the case was tried under PPC or ATA. Further, one needs to look at the repercussions the parodon would bring to the society.

akki Sep 10, 2013 09:08pm

@Arslan Ahmad: but law allows it ..

M. Omar Sep 10, 2013 09:13pm

Justice for sale.....

rashad Sep 10, 2013 09:19pm

shahrukh jatoi is our future president!

Salman Sep 10, 2013 10:00pm

Blood money or no Blood money - we all know under what circumstances this must have been agreed. The fact is, this is a case of cold-blooded-murder . The perpetrators should be brought to justice.

malik Sep 10, 2013 10:12pm

it makes sense to forgive someone who is poor & weak. But the Rich and powerful need to be made an example of. The reason Shahzeb got killed was that the killer thought he can kill and get away with it because they are above the law . Forgiveness in this case is unacceptable.

Ehsan Sep 10, 2013 10:18pm

Allah has created death as the first phase of his universal justice system. Death and it's aftermath is the same for the poor and the rich. Death is followed by life in the grave, next is the day of judgment, and finally the eternal life in heaven or hell based on one's actions in this life. Yes, the Jatoi's and Talpur appear to have held sway over a less powerful family in the short term.

At the same time, this is a temporary state and they are the losers for eternity. This life will pass in the blink of an eye. Shahzeb is in a grave wrongly killed by one of the lower class pharoah's of our time.

Jatoi and Talpur will take a dirt nap too. Yet their dirt nap will be miserable followed by eternal life in hell. When you take the longer term view of this situation, who is the ultimate winner and who is the ultimate loser?


Niazi Sep 10, 2013 10:31pm

And than we say we belive in democracy and we have free judiciary and media. To hell with everything, Khan's parent might have forgiven the killers of their son but who will make sure they didn't do it under pressure. We as a nation require a dictactor cause democracy will only give us such desicions till the time Nawaz, zadari, chaudarys will rule us.

aisha Sep 10, 2013 10:47pm

Folks dont be fooled by passport part. Nowadays people (including myself) travel to australia without a visa on passport, as all we require is an evisa.

malik Sep 10, 2013 10:53pm

Time to get rid of this archaic law which lets the rich gets free for murder.

Ashoka Sep 10, 2013 10:58pm

Happily progressing towards stone age..

I just cant understand how blood money or pardon from the victim's family can absolve a person of crimes committed by him no matter under what circumstances. I dont blame this incident of the rich getting away at the expense of the poor, it is the ill thought antiqued laws of Islam that need to be questioned. The Sharia and Islam law quoted here is only valid amongst equals, not when social equality a far off reality.

Seedoo Sep 10, 2013 11:22pm

I can understand (not at all agree) with the self serving mindset of the Waderas. They are corrupt, but at least do not claim to be pious individuals. What shocks me is the attitude of these mullahs who use Islam as a fig leaf for perpetuating the status quo.

If it weren't the 'MMF' of Pakistan: Military, Mullah, and the Feudal Lords, Pakistan would be a truly prosperous country.

NADIM Sep 10, 2013 11:34pm

When someone commits a murder he commits a crime against the victim and also crime against society. Aggrieved family can not pardon him for crime against society, therefore he should be punished. Sharia law in this case needs to be looked at. Would they really pardon them if the accused were poor with nothing to offer in return. Isn, this a discrimination against poor.

MJ Sep 11, 2013 12:02am

Wow what a provision... so how much typically murder cost? does it change on location, victim...? strange thing is they didn't fix price so its open for bidding...

Yasmin Elahi Sep 11, 2013 12:11am

The pardon of Shahzeb's murderers have only strenghtened the hands of criminals. Although we are living in bad times, but things will worsen from now on. Anyone who is filthy rich can go out and at his whim kill anyone not as rich as him! All Pakistanis protest against this pardon.. My message to Shahzeb's family... whether you have struck a deal or not, you have put the nation to shame!!

steve Sep 11, 2013 12:34am

what a pathetic country Pakistan is. it's more like a settlement. how unfortunate.

Umair Sep 11, 2013 12:39am

@James: please dont criticize the hurted left ones of shahzeb, he died.. let them live just said peacefuly

Concerned Sep 11, 2013 12:50am

I felt disgusted after reading this news

Noman Sep 11, 2013 01:19am

Nations who have two set of rules, one for the influential and other for the poor, shall face destruction...

Raj Sep 11, 2013 01:40am

Even its weird to heard word Blood Money! How come you have such medieval law in place. In this way no powerful will ever be prosecuted and only anarchy spread. God help!!

Mirza Sep 11, 2013 02:37am

@adee:I wish you and your likes, before posting such comments, for once could imagine the immense pressure and threats the family had to face before taking such a decvision..but they couldn't bear it any more and eventually broke down...

Ahsen Wali Mohammad Sep 11, 2013 02:43am

@Saad Khan:

And what help will changing your nationality do? Being Pakistani is in your blood.

sultan Sep 11, 2013 03:56am

I am ashmamed to call myself a Pakistani. All over the world when judiciary makes the ruling no one can interfere in that only the president can listen to the clemency appeal . Pakistan is the only country where everbody interferes except the State ( because it is very weak administration) I feel sorry for the people who live under these pathatic conditions

Sikandar Naqvi Sep 11, 2013 04:19am

I expected this. Now anyone with money can go out and kill anyone, then pay the family and do it over and over again. But then, this is Pakistan! I am deeply upset at the gross misuse of justice and shariah laws.

Karachi Wala Sep 11, 2013 04:55am

This case should be tried again. This time in a open court of public, minus the Mullah element.

Fara Sep 11, 2013 05:18am

Very interesting comments.... This is Islamic Law in Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Pakistanis are surprised???????

Saadia Sep 11, 2013 07:05am

@Asif: And all the people who have disparagingly called Pakistan as being responsible

Kindly know that it's people who make the laws , if you don't like them then have the courage to change them

Imran Sep 11, 2013 07:35am

One more law (religious) failing the poor of the society. Don't tell me the sharia law is any better than any other, when rich can buy their way out of, murder in daylight. Blood money, must be calculated to include to payback to the tax payers and crime fighting budgets. Not everything should go to the parents, since they sold out.

Ajaya K Dutt Sep 11, 2013 08:21am

This is an Islamic law and Pakistan is just following "judicious" Islamic law.

milind Sep 11, 2013 08:36am

@Nooruddin: When US pay money for his men and you accept than why not you accept same term for your own citizen who get pardon while paying money

Zahir Sep 11, 2013 10:28am

@AHA: It is not the religion which favors the rich and powerful- it is the so called religious scholars, with their narrow, self centered, self serving and power hungry record who have once again sided with the powerful oppressor, rather than the ordinary citizen. Therein lies the difference between the religion and the religious scholars.

Danish Haider Sep 11, 2013 10:35am

Ozzie Sep 11, 2013 10:45am

@Malikk: Let these killers have good time now, but who will save them in the Akhira. Taking a life of one human is like taking the life of whole humanity. You can be pardoned now but who will pardon you shen you will face Allah.

mehran Sep 11, 2013 02:12pm

Hi every one, We all were grieved and are also sad about the current development in shahzeabs case. we should condemn the cold blooded murder. we would have been looking forward to see murderers behind the bars . They were arrested and punished , justice been delivered. we should not have any ambiguity about that . it is prevailing in the Islamic societies all over the world that family of deceased can pardon the culprits. weather it is money or what ever reasons , who the hell we are to stop grieved family to decides according to their own conscious , because we support them while the culprits were on run, now we are taking our own revenge from both the grieved family because we helped them and we hate the culprits because one they are rich second they belong to particular ethnic group. tell me how many shahzeb have been killed on the soil of Pakistan every day . how many shahruk have been arrested and punished. why not media and civil society talk about those people. what about a young boy was murdered in day light by a rich boy with the assistance of his guard. why don't you make drama about the murder, where is media and civil society.why don't khanzada of express news do programme about that issue.i need answer for that as well.

mehran Sep 11, 2013 02:40pm

justice for all.

Fahad Ahmad Sep 11, 2013 05:43pm

It only proves that PAKISTAN is the best place in the world to if you have enormous amount of money and right connections!

The so called elites of the country are plundering the wealth of Pakistan and are above the law, they can do anything, and from now onwards they can kill anyone and face a VVIP jail treatment during case hearing and then go away without any sentence to their ill doing.

Is this the country our Forefathers gave their lives to create where those who have money can do anything.

We have to do serious soul searching and stand as one nation against all those who think Pakistan is their properly and they are above the law and mend the law according to their own will.

khanm Sep 11, 2013 05:57pm

@AZ: aray sain kia baat ker rahe ho. pakistan inhe logoun kay lia to bana tha

Fahad Nazir Sep 11, 2013 11:34pm

Here are the highlights of the case: Shahzaib was murdered. Suspects were disappeared. Case was registered with police after lots of difficulties. Suspects were still disappeared. Social Media Campaigns & Civil society went on roads. Suspects were still off screen and police was making no progress. C-J took Sou moto action (A court takes suo moto action, meaning it starts a legal process on its own.) Rumors appeared that perpetrators were seen in UAE. Nobody knows how they fled and who helped them. Then teams went there half-heartedly to bring perpetrators back under the pressure from Sup Court. Perpetrators are proven guilty under ATA and convicted. So NOW it

don Sep 12, 2013 03:30am

@mehran: justice for all ... if payment for everyone ! shameless mockery of natural justice...

Mother Sep 12, 2013 03:49am

Shahzeb's parents may have sold their son to the highest bidder, but we are not ready to sell Pakistan. If Shahzeb's killers are pardoned, then we can forget about Pakistan and sell ourselves to the highest bidder. The judges should consider the bigger implications of this case before letting this pardon go through. These implications include loss of faith in the law that Chaudhry Saab has worked so hard to bring about. We though we were slowly but surely turning a corner.

ali ahmed Sep 12, 2013 09:13am

Parents may pardon the killers but we the people of Pakistan are not ready to pardon the killers of our society. These feudal lords and their debauched off-springs need to be taught a bitter lesson. We have now pinned our hopes to our judiciary. There still is a chance that these brats can be punished by our honorable judges of high- and supreme court.

fr Sep 12, 2013 09:46am

@Fahad Ahmad: Fahad not only that but this country is full of cowards and easily "available for sale people" that's why the American Truly believe that pakis will sell their mothers too if right amount is tendered. a good example is that girl from swat where the innocent girl is sold to world media and conspiracies by her father just for a few hundred thousands of pounds and living in UK.

fr Sep 12, 2013 09:44am

@Ozzie : If everything was to be left to Akhira, then better live in a forest.

fr Sep 12, 2013 09:46am

@Danish Haider: Which state and Judiciary are you talking about. there is no state and no judiciary in the piece of land called "Pakistan"

fr Sep 12, 2013 09:47am

@milind: That's what exactly has been done here. but the money is paid to people who were not murdered and whose life was cut down to less than half-what will he get?? can someone answer?

fr Sep 12, 2013 09:51am

@Karachi Wala: there is no court in your country. forget it like a fairy tale of your childhood

Asif AK Sep 12, 2013 09:55am

donot see a point why we are discussing the issue; just for media to make money out of it. the family has decided to part ways, its their decision, who are we to poke in our noses?? empathize. as for jury; understand my french.

Youth Sep 12, 2013 11:17am

One can escape punishment in this world but what about the hereafter. I would not like to quote a very big personality (more negative than positive) saying on record that he committed his first murder at the age of 16 years............after many years he met the same fate may be worst.

Salman Sep 12, 2013 11:24am

@Faisal Ayub: You are so wrong. The poor parents did NOT do any injustice to their son. It's certain, they were forced into accepting the blood money by those tribal hoodlums. Whether the money is actually handed over to the parents is also questionable.

Salman Sep 12, 2013 11:27am

@James: You are very wrong. I don't think that money will ever change hands. Those tribal hoodlums would rather keep it to themselves. Poor Shahzeb's parents !

Salman Sep 12, 2013 11:30am

@Syed: This guy is only 19 years old. Imagine how many more murders he might commit if he's on the loose. I think he should be locked-up FOREVER.

Aizaz Sep 12, 2013 01:14pm

Just as a matter of information ......Australian Visa is not STAMPED on the Passport . Once it is approved ,then you just show the Passport at Exit and Entry Points and the Authorities concerned checks the Visa ONLINE by Passport Number !!!!!!!!

ahmed Sep 12, 2013 06:10pm

@farid: If the family of the deceased forgives then its up to them not up to a blow joe to decide what is right or wrong. It has nothing to do with the arab culture.

humanity_crying Sep 12, 2013 08:57pm

If parents want to sell the dead bodies of their kids to these rich tycoons, please don't bother common man because we are still not ready for this hypocrisy and dictatorship in the name of religion.

naghman qureshi Sep 12, 2013 09:31pm

this is another reason the law must be secular.

assad Sep 13, 2013 05:17am

@Youth: Yes the now lionized Nawaz Bugti has this honour.