Smokers’ Corner: By the book

Pakistan is a multi-lingual, multi-ethnic and multi-religious society. Non-Muslims are an essential part of it. Many of them have contributed to the country’s well being in various fields.

However, according to renowned scholar and educationist, Professor A. H. Nayyar, the culture and the idioms of Muslim ‘majority-ism’ (after the 1971 East Pakistan debacle) started gaining more currency in the country’s politics and, in turn, also got reflected in the educational process.

Though agreeing with Nayyar, another well known academic, Dr Rubina Saigol, however, suggests that the attempt to mould the minds of the young through textbooks started in earnest in the early 1980s.

The syllabus was redesigned and textbooks were rewritten to create a monolithic image of Pakistan as a theocratic state and Pakistani citizens as Muslim only.

According to Saigol, this clearly tells young non-Muslim students that they are excluded from the national identity.

In an extensive study conducted by Nayyar and Dr Ahmad Salim (in 2002), the following four themes emerge most strongly in history textbooks in Pakistan:

That Pakistan is for Muslims alone; the ideology of Pakistan is deeply interlinked with faith and one should never trust Hindus and India. Students should take the path of jihad and martyrdom.

Scholars like Ayesha Jalal and Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy have argued that the term ‘ideology of Pakistan’ is an after-thought; it was absent at the time of the creation of Pakistan.

According to them Jinnah never used the term ‘ideology of Pakistan’ (especially with respect to Islam).

For 15 years after the establishment of Pakistan, the term was not known to anybody.

The phrase ‘ideology of Pakistan’ has no historical basis in the Pakistan movement. It was coined much later by those political forces that needed it to sanctify their particular brand of politics: especially those religious parties that had earlier been against the creation of Pakistan.

Even though in a 1954 report Justice Munir strongly noted that Jinnah never uttered the words ‘ideology of Pakistan,’ the curriculum documents (ever since the 1980s) insist that the students be taught that the ideology of Pakistan was pronounced by the Quaid.

No textbook has ever been able to cite a single reference to Jinnah using this term.

Jinnah’s speech to the Constituent Assembly on Sept 11, 1947 is completely contrary to the so-called ‘ideology of Pakistan’ as it is presented in school history books. Nayyar, Jalal, Hoodbhoy and Saigol suggest that associated with the ‘ideology of Pakistan’ is an essential component of hate against India and Hindus.

Some time after 1971, the subject of Indo-Pakistan history was replaced with ‘Pakistan Studies,’ whose sole purpose now was to define Pakistan as an Islamic state. The students were deprived of learning about pre-Islamic history of their region. Instead, history books now started with the Arab conquest of Sindh and swiftly jumped to the Muslim conquerors from Central Asia.

Nayyar and Salim have pointed out the following examples of expression of hate in post-1971 history text books:

Hindus have always been enemies of Islam; they worship idols in temples which are very narrow and dark places; they declared the Congress rule as Hindu rule, and started to unleash terror on Muslims. The Hindus always desired to crush the Muslims as a nation and Gandhi was as an extremist.

Though still not part of the mainstream text books, another ‘enemy’ has recently been added in the shape of the ‘modern American (read Christian) crusaders.’

What’s more all history in these books is along religious lines while social, historical, material and economic causes are missing. Pakistanis are not told that the rise of Western powers in the last 500 years was mainly due to the advances made in education, science and culture. This rise was not based on military might alone, and certainly not on any overwhelming religious doctrine.

After 1979, the themes of jihad and martyrdom in textbooks became strong. In this period, history and social studies books openly eulogise jihad and martyrdom.

According to Nayyar, in Pakistan the impression one gets from textbooks on the subjects of Pakistan Studies is that the students don’t learn history, but rather a carefully crafted collection of falsehoods.

For example, in these books, Muhammad bin Qasim is declared the first Pakistani citizen. The story of the Arabs’ arrival in Sindh is recounted as the first moment of Pakistan with the glorious ascendancy of Islam.

Also a widely taught history book insists that, “Although Pakistan was created in August 1947, the present-day Pakistan has existed, as a more or less single entity, for centuries.”

A history book published in 1992 has on its cover a Muslim warrior holding a sword and charging in on a horse; and a chapter called, ‘The Enemies of Islam.’ This chapter is broken into various sections that define these enemies as being Hindus, Christians, Jews and “secularists.”

In their study, both Nayyar and Salim conclude that one should not be surprised at the irrational hate and confusion among Pakistani children after what they learn at school: a state of mind that they can carry well into their adult life as well.

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Nadeem F. Paracha is a cultural critic and senior columnist for Dawn Newspaper and He has also authored a book on the social history of Pakistan called, End of the Past.

He tweets @NadeemfParacha

The views expressed by this writer and commenters below do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

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Oct 15, 2012 01:51am
Well said NFP when you ask the people to realize that the rise of Western powers in the last 500 years was mainly due to the advances made in education, science and culture. This rise was not based on military might alone, and certainly not on any overwhelming religious doctrine.
Oct 15, 2012 11:35am
That?s a lot of destruction of others beliefs this guy wants to protect his own god.
Oct 14, 2012 08:48am
"Jinnah was surrounded by self-serving sycophants....." It speaks more about the person than the sycophants.
Oct 15, 2012 02:51am
I fully appreciate your reaction, but life in Pakistan for most Pakistanis is to be seen as schizophrenic. People could be watching things on TV, reading things in books, listening to sermons in mosques, but the moment they turn away from , reality and a different mode sets in. The hostility to India minimizes, extremist views are set aside in their minds and a much simpler ,saner mind set prevails , than the more intense views they are exposed to. No wonder they watch Indian programs , follow various fashion trends, want to migrate to western countries.
Oct 15, 2012 02:27pm
Ashamed of the older generations of Pakistan now as well as of the present one.
Oct 15, 2012 01:57am
Well said NFP when you ask the people to realize that the rise of Western powers in the last 500 years was mainly due to the advances made in education, science and culture. This rise was not based on military might alone, and certainly not on any overwhelming religious doctrine. ?
Oct 15, 2012 05:39pm
Good on..
Oct 15, 2012 02:45am
Your column is very well written as usual, Mr. Paracha. Only when we come out of the narrow confines of parochial education are we truly liberated. Only when we can see the world from the viewpoint of other cutlures can we truly understand humanity. This applies to any place in the world, but Pakistan is suffering the worst of it. Let us hope that broader minds will prevail.
Abhay Deshpande
Oct 14, 2012 01:06pm
Ideally all non-Muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh should be resettled in India and other non-Muslim countries such as USA, Canada, European countries. All Muslims from Europe, the Americas, India should be relocated to Pakistan, Bangladesh and other Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia. This should be orchestrated over 10 years so that there is no bloodshed. Once Pakistan and Banladesh are fully Muslim they can then have sharia as the law of the land and build their economies. Bot Pakistan and Bangladesh should exploit the huge Indian market.
Oct 14, 2012 01:06pm
We should throw this curriculum out, and adopt materials that is more pragmatic. I think all of our political parties as well as civil societies should work together to achieve this target, it is vital for Pakistan success.
Ahmed Sultan (India)
Oct 15, 2012 04:44am
i am a muslim and i was born in india, i will live in india and i will die in india, perhaps you should migrate there you may find people with similar mindset like you there.
Oct 15, 2012 11:29am
Very well said Adnan. Good response.
Nisha Rai
Oct 14, 2012 01:23pm
Nasirulla, Sohail is saying that Pakistan is on its way to make great progress with the method it is employing and other countries are on their way to self-destruction! So, liberals and secular-minded people, enough of your drivel!!
Nisha Rai
Oct 14, 2012 01:11pm
Adnan, I agree with you, although I am from India. There is a reason Pakistan was created: it is supposed to be a secure home for the muslims of the subcontinent. It is important that the young minds be moulded to learn this thought, otherwise the Pakistani nation will not hold together. Pakistan's identity is from the majority religion (unlike India's identity that is mainly derived from the common culture, way of life and geographic entity). Paksitan should not go to the secular extreme, but it is advisable to tone down hatred for Hindus, Jews, Christians and Westerners because to live in a globalised world the youth must accept non-islamic civilizations.
Oct 14, 2012 08:13pm
I often read your commentaries, and admire you for pointing out so many negative attributes ?some downright evil- that have gripped the Pakistani society for much too long. I agree with you that Pakistani text books imprecisely relate many aspects of history, notably those relating to India. And that is bad on its own merit because those we teach deserve to know the truth. But Pakistan is not unique in distorting history in its favor. For example, it is rare that I meet a person from India who has any words of approval for Pakistan and its Muslim population. Now, how could that be? Obviously the training that an Indian mind goes through about Pakistan is also determined by how Pakistan and its Muslims are portrayed in Indian text books, or for that matter, in the media of that country. Still, I am inclined to accept that distortion on the Pakistani side is greater; it is just not unique. I would further say that art of distorting history is an evil. But such distortions become interlocked when nations are at serious odds. Thus, neither can be blamed alone. Last, distortion of information, sometimes to a point where it becomes open falsehood, does not develop in vacuo; it develops systematically and has underlying causes. I think it would be worthwhile to explore the deep cause-and-effect relationships when it comes to the evils that Pakistan lives with. But that is a long, deep topic.
Oct 14, 2012 06:23pm
@Nisha Rai "Tone Down Hatred.........." You mean hate but hate less ? Can you please suggest the right amount/doze of hatred ? And please tell me as to how can I adopt you as my guru for quantitative analysis of love, hatred, like, dislike. Please, I hope you will not disappoint me. Respecfully.
Oct 15, 2012 03:20am
I think you meant August 11,1947 instead of September 11, 1947
Muhammad Ahmed
Oct 14, 2012 07:57am
I cannot completely agree with this analysis. I was either taught Pak Studies by extremely enlightened professors or my text books which were used in 1996 have been discontinued. Those curriculum books had some very insightful information about "Sidharta" also known as Gautam Buddha, it also related some real gems about Indus Valley Civilization and there was a more balanced approach about different muslim dynasties. I can also vividly remember that majority of the students found the subject extremely boring and based on our successful cramming system, we could not even remember four out of Jinnah's fourteen points within two weeks of our exams. I must say that the first time my own view about history was challenged when I experienced history being taught in American History Honors class in Florida. Ms. Kanzer, my history teacher indeed taught me more about appreciating history and reviewing it from different aspects. The best part of assignments included reviewing narratives from two opposing resources. I did not realize that how perspectives can impact the recorded facts depending upon bias of the recorder. The most interesting examples included British and American versions of events leading to War of Independence or complimenting narratives associated with Civil War by officers commanding opposing regiments within the same battle.
Oct 14, 2012 10:27am
Well said, and then day in day out the politicians in their talk shows too blame India,the west,Jews etc.for all the malaise. I found the pakistanis have zero tolerance this is because vast majority was raised to hate and others r scared to be different. One thing which nature has sent me equipped with i is my brain n I use that. I have great fondness for the things attached to the West n South Asian countries. I admire their technology, their research practically in all fields n their sense of tolerance.
Oct 14, 2012 05:08pm
Arabic is the main language of Islam just like Hebrew for Old Bible, Jews living today in US are intentionally/unintentionally follow old Hebrew culture by adapting the old attire.
lista de email
Oct 14, 2012 06:31am
thanks a lot for this beauty article. i am appreciating it very much!
Oct 15, 2012 03:23am
For me the way we define our history also reflects how we define our identity. What still confuses me is that while we (including what I have read above and what alot of young Pakistanis now believe) is that Pakistan was an entity not made on the basis of religion. Now keeping that view in mind I try to rationalize things, if that could have been true and for a second if I do agree with the notion, then why did the so-called-wanted -to-be-Pakistanis at that time come together to make a similar state as that of India's? I mean we were and still am multicultural, multilingual and possibly all that, which can never bring people to come to any common grounds. So what was that force that brought us together. Was it language or ethics or to get rid of the oppression from our own fellow beings or did our ancestors have the same economic and social conditions? It was none of these reasons. Therefore, how much we try to separate ourselves from "religion" it was the only common grounds that united us and was the driving force. Not to segregate ourselves because Islam calls for us to do Jihad against the non-believers but to practice what we believe in freely. Now, for sure the question will arise what about those Muslims who are still living in India, larger in number and might be in a better state then we are in Pakistan right now. Well it was a choice made by those who wanted to risk it all to believe in something, however, if that belief is consistent now is not the question but yes it was then a foundation for the formation of two independent states.
kamaljit Singh
Oct 15, 2012 03:28am
very right.
Agha Ata (USA)
Oct 14, 2012 01:50pm
The whole story is about Kashmir. It started with Kashmir; it is continuing about Kashmir. I am not sure, if it will end with Kashmir, But it will certainly end about Kashmir. Kashmir has become more important than Pakistan. It is like a vanity that became very large, larger than Siachen, even larger than yourslef. Pakistan Army, Kashmir and India form the triangle. Pakistan is not there. One side of the triangle has to fall down to break this triangle. Which one?
Oct 15, 2012 11:45am
well written.i wish the nation would wake up and correct the mistakes done by previous leaders or it is doomed.
Oct 15, 2012 04:12am
Alas, I agree.
Oct 14, 2012 03:44pm
How will that solve the problem of Bangladeshis illegally entering India? If there is peace with Pakistan and ten armies stand down at the border, there'll be a mss exodus from Pakistan to India. Your solution will not stop the problem.
Oct 15, 2012 12:54am
If a secular India yields to terror from a motley collection of Islamist hooligans,..then secularism would be weakened in India as well?
Satish Sharma
Oct 15, 2012 12:47am
Mr. Pracha, Your scholarship is wasted on a non-argument. Pakistan had no ideology; that's why it's needed now, as more truth about it's creation is coming to surfaces. Jinnah and ML weren't the creators of Pakistan; they were the tools of USA/UK who didn't want Soviet Russia to have "friendly access" to warm waters. Muslims in a complete India would (even now) be about 40% .. Hindu's would be marginally larger at about 45%. Rest is mumbo jumbo.
Oct 15, 2012 12:41am
And remember for the most part they are Communist and I dont think they have a Communist Party in Pakistan?
Oct 15, 2012 12:42am
You had better do it fast? The white in the Pakistani flag has turned out to be a shroud not just for Hindus Sikhs or Christians but for Muslims as well?
Oct 15, 2012 12:39am
As the "Art of Living" guru Sri Sri Ravishankar says" There is something wrong with the thinking that 'you deserve Hell and I deserve Heaven and so,I am going to kill you for it" Any simple text on Psychology for a college course will tell you something: positive and negative thoughts influence action and motivations and so,by extension,entire life. Perhaps we Indians should request that we air drop millions of pamphlets mouthing simple wisdom on Pakistan to improve the law and order situation? Sri Sri Ravishankar had a quite a good record of success in Iraq teaching them simple relaxation and meditation techniques!
Oct 15, 2012 12:32am
I am the witness of these changes, When I was in high school in 1981 , Islamiat was introduce big time in syllabus . This course was first thing divide Pakistan into two fraction Shia and Sunni officially.
Oct 15, 2012 12:29am
As I see it: if secularism is an enemy of Islam..then,Islam is an enemy of itself!
S A Mirza
Oct 14, 2012 07:01pm
Pakistan is an Islamic country because it is predominantly inhabited by Muslims. Islam is submission to the will of God, peace, tolerance, kindness, and compassion for all mankind. The real problem is the corruption of the ruling class and the elite. We just need honest and unselfish leader like the Quaid to work towards eradicating poverty and spreading education. Also we must control population like China.
Rohail Mehmood
Oct 14, 2012 08:21am
It's a great snapshot by NFP of what has happened to our education system and why this system is only capable of producing confused robots. I would also like to suggest that readers should also read the writings of historians like Dr.Mubarek Ali and late KK Aziz. They too have written about this topic in detail. Though NFP had quoted sound academics and respected educationists, it would have been great had he also quoted Ali and Aziz. Nevertheless, an important piece of writing.
Oct 14, 2012 06:59pm
@Sb: A little google can help you to learn so many things. Please do a few times rather than making comment here.
Oct 14, 2012 06:57pm
Why mr parachha u didn't narrate the contributions of DR MUBARIK ALI, the people u described,yes of course working in a positive way,but their work is mostly in English ESP Ayesha Jalal,and in Pakistani society ,hardly youth knows about English as a medium to get knowledge,and information,but mubarik Ali wrote books in Urdu and did a great job
Oct 14, 2012 05:49pm
Education is a gift, and you're gifted Sir.
Oct 14, 2012 06:50pm
Thank You for sharing your experience with us. It will help me for sure, being less hostile to differing point of view.
Oct 14, 2012 01:48pm
My view is that the obsession with things "Arab" in Pakistan is to do with the fact that the theologists know that their ancestors were Hindus who converted to Islam - the surnames of many of the historians are common in India. To justify Partition - that somehow Pakistanis are different from Hindu-majority India the state has had to somehow convince the next generation why the breakup was required. In the 21st century as world economies grow including India's while Pakistan is getting smaller this divide is going to become even bigger and unless a course correction is made in Pakistan we may see tragic consequences.
Oct 15, 2012 12:23am
"Alice in wonderland" by Lewis Carroll and a textbook of "Pakistan Studies" must be read side by side. Free comparisons can be made for they are both of same genre,
Sushil Narain
Oct 14, 2012 05:46pm
The creation of Pakistan by partioning the then un-divided India is now a historical fact and no one is interested in un-doing it. We, in India, wish Pakistan should progress, but, the citizens of Pakistan must realise that material progress is only possible when they, the Pakistanis, adopt a liberal attitude and tolerance for other religions as well as ideas and freethemselves from self-deception.
Oct 14, 2012 06:44pm
My comments were removed because they represent reality. This is what the problem is. Now if I was really working for Fazalur Rehman, there would be repercussions. You will be hunted down. See my point.
Oct 14, 2012 03:27pm
Great article. This really explains a lot.
Oct 15, 2012 12:13am
If these are reason of 'hate" among Pakistanis, then what are basis of hate among Indian towards Pakistan? If not text books, then what? deep rooted hate towards Pakistani taught in homes and media? I guess......
Oct 14, 2012 05:44pm
Nadeem, Job well done. writers like you, ayesha Jalal and Dr. hoodbhy are doing tremendous job in educating not only children but adults as well. Userpurs and Mullah (AMA- army military and mullah alliance) have destroyed the culture of Pakistan. All these people should be tried for treason even if we had to do posthumously in some cases that is the only way Pakistan can be saved otherwise i can only say in advance Inna Lillah-ewa Inna Alaihe Rajeoon for pakistan. Haleem Khokhar
Oct 15, 2012 10:46am
Specially NOT yours.
Bloody Indian
Oct 14, 2012 05:32pm
Everytime I meet a Pakistani or see one one t.v. being nice or talking about friendship with Indians - I cannot help but think that he is acting. How could a person born in Pakistan, who has studied in his textbooks that Hindus / Christians are evil, has constantly been fed upon anti-India propaganda by media and society think good about India / Hindus/ Christians / Secularism. It is just not possible.
Oct 14, 2012 07:40pm
I wonder if suddenly Indians, which is majority Hindu, suddenly decide to be "Hindu republic of India" and started the same kind of idelogy as Pakistan what will happen to 160 million muslims? Not that Indians care about being a religion centric nation or else they would not have voted for congress after the bjp government . And why just only india what if the UK or USA became Christian country would the muslims of Pakistan take all those millions of muslims who are settled in those countries? Respect others they will respect you.
Oct 14, 2012 11:35pm
The reality that the author gets paid by dawn because he works for them? I am surprised that you didn't claim that he worked for Mossad, CIA or RAW and he is being paid by those agencies.
Oct 14, 2012 08:20am
Claiming that Pakistan's creation was IDEOLOGY less sounds so illogical and baseless. Every act needs a cause, no act is causeless. The founder of Pakistan was quite clear about the Ideology of Pakistan which he expressed multiple times. Jinnah said not one but in various speeches that Pakistan's idea is bases on religion and he categorically called Hindu and Muslim separate nations. Anyone who has doubt can read Jinnah;s speeches to educate himself.
Oct 14, 2012 11:23pm
Educated people are aware of it. Thanks for bringing it to their attention. Two observations: It is Nazism, and who Pakistanis' educational leaders think wrote history. It was Muslim rulers who wrote the history. Read autobiographies of Timur, Babar, Huymayun, and so on. I wish Pakistani students luck in writing exams for Western universities/ educational institutes.
Oct 14, 2012 07:11pm
All it takes is a rational person to see through the farce. I am sure there are many in Pakistan as well as in India who can see through the web of conceit. All we want is peace and prosperity for both the nations. Friendship, understanding and mutual co existence,its not hard, open your minds and open your hearts.
Oct 14, 2012 05:25pm
The disease is not with history books that's just a symptom,even if the books are changed and truth is told the acts will again relapse into old habits. Just as Lenin said, habits are most dangerous force of world,,there exist similar disease all over middle east with faith which is identical with what majority of follow in troubled land.........adapt or the key learn it in hard way or soft way one has no escape. Darwin was right.
Oct 14, 2012 05:46pm
Completely incorrect. What percentage of Jews actually "adapt the old attire" in your estimation? If you actually went out to see the truth, you'll be surprised. Yes, it's true that Hebrew has a language was revived after the re-creation of Israel but it's not like all the Jews are wearing the old attire. Why don't you value education and honest curiosity instead of pure hatred, I don't understand. I see your postings and it's all about hatred. If the aliens landed from a different planet today and observed your writings, they may actually assume that hatred is a pillar of Islam.
salman nadir
Oct 14, 2012 05:28pm
well has been our delima that we have suffered by our own and blame others never leting our faults to come to surface since our inception.despite being in a revolving state we are afraid to move on..
Oct 14, 2012 05:42pm
Of coures he's on the payroll of Dawn, fool. He is employed by them. He works for them. Who do you work for? Fazalur Rehman?
Oct 14, 2012 05:40pm
You are correct Mr. Gulshan.
Oct 14, 2012 05:55pm
I am not that smart to read between the lines. Could you please be kind enough and nice enough to explain that me. Thank you in anticipation.
Oct 14, 2012 05:38pm
Complete non-sense as usual being spewed by this guy on the pay roll of Dawn. Religions have survived because of these so-called extremists.
jay komerath
Oct 14, 2012 05:16pm
Paracha has been a voice of reason and Intelligience.
Bakhtawer Bilal
Oct 14, 2012 09:44pm
"a state of mind that they can carry well into their adult life as well." Our lack of interest in reading and gaining knowledge is so rampant that the above line should read "rest of their life" instead of the optimism peeking, as if they might change.
Nisha Rai
Oct 14, 2012 01:21pm
The dilemma for Pakistani leaders will be how to balance the "true history" with the overwhelming influence from the Western & Indian entertainment that sometimes contains unpalatable history! How to keep the pride in being a Pakistani is a diifuclt question to answer.
Oct 14, 2012 02:19pm
Hate and suspicion is the result of eulogistic history. I don't see any fair chance of people to people contact or cultural exchange in a cordial atmosphere between India and Pakisthan.
Oct 14, 2012 02:24pm
Do a google search - ``Pakistani history books''. You will find there everything that Mr. Paracha says.
Oct 14, 2012 02:57pm
Why this poor guy has so many "thumbs down"? What is so objectionable in what he/she has posted?
Oct 14, 2012 07:01am
This comment does not make any sense.
sohail yasin
Oct 14, 2012 06:32am
it does not mean as it has been elaborated by these scholars ,that,s a big dilemma of our western reflected societies but they are just ignoring the fact of this era .There is a big change on intellectual and moral level, the young one of pakistan is much more well cultured organised and civilised than these western societies brought ups .So we have the only way which leads towards the prosperity and long run success as we had been derailed many centuries before and if we try to follow the journey to nowhere then it will be too late to respond
Oct 14, 2012 07:06am
What is the point? if you are not going to tell your kids what their past has been how would they create their future ,.... and what would be that future? Considering the excessive exposure of kids to Indian or foreign media has already take them away from the ideas of this land.When you can not tell the younger generation through other mediums, it takes its way in the books.I am glad it does.Why should not the young know how and why Pakistan came into being? As far as the non Muslims students are concerned, they always have the choice to take subjects like ethics or int.affairs. Every parent wishes to warn his kids against the bad or at least what he considered bad.
Oct 14, 2012 07:09am
People like Dr. Amir Liauquat promote and survive on hate mongering. There are shows being promoted by various TV channels particularly ARY and GEO who broadcast these shows of hate without any real analysis or basis to support the message
Oct 14, 2012 09:37pm
No. He works for Zaid Hamid or Hamid Gul or Fareed Prachar.
Oct 14, 2012 05:06pm
You gotta read Indian Books that glorifies Hindu Characters and praise India's POV than a neutral one. Jinnah never used the term Secularism so the "Ideology of Pakistan". Jinnah did not know that some toddler child adult will not be able to comprehend him. Not a Jinnah's fault.
Oct 14, 2012 04:36pm
Its time for Pakistan to reap the fruits of the seeds that it has sown. Only problem is that it is not able to escape from eating the fruits. I dont want to argue on whether Jinnah is a confused man or not in deciding the basis for the division of the sub-continent. If its named as "land of pure", then it means that the people they left behind are impure. Obviously the Pure have decided to name the impure as kafirs and wage wars. They did their best to subdue the impure. Though their best efforts dint succeed, in the process they have successfully indoctrinated their children to tread this path of Jihad. Now its the fruit bearing season. NOTE: As like my other comments, i guess this wont be published by the religious indoctrinated moderator. But nevertheless, making an effort is avoiding the failure.
Oct 14, 2012 04:12pm
Dawn moderator, Mgt, article writers have an agenda to fill. What you see here is that agenda not factual truth. To know the truth read between the lines...and what is not being said.
Yemeen Zuberi
Oct 14, 2012 09:15pm
I take this opportunity to bring on record, and a point for NFP to discuss in future, the fact that when I was in class Seventh in 1966, just after the '65 war, the students were asked to buy new Urdu poetry book. This book did not have Ghalib, Iqbal, Faiz or other Masters, this had war songs that were sung during the war period. It looked so funny to me at that time.
Oct 14, 2012 04:07pm
And the answer is .......
Oct 14, 2012 04:04pm
Because they don't want the world to know the TRUTH. Look, there is a "Thumb Down" for you too, just for asking a question. The prevelent mentality is against debating an issue lest their view point gets exposed and opposed.
Oct 14, 2012 04:22pm
@pppuri Are you stupid? We don't want to know the truth. That is why we have not disclosed Rehman Commission report about our victory against India in East Pakistan. We want the Pakistani masses to be dumb, deprived and dependent so that Mullas, Military and Politicians can serve them (read rape them). Islamic Republic Of Pakistan will lead the Islamic world toward ............ Remember we are an Atomic Power. We don't need anything else.
Oct 14, 2012 02:36pm
Is it absolutely clear today that had the partition not occurred Muslims would have fared poorly in India? The Muslim populations in West Bengla and Kerala - as percentages of the total populations - are larger than what the Muslim population of India was in 1947. They are certainly two of the most tolerant states in India.
Oct 14, 2012 01:42pm
Just curious to know how and when did you realise this was not all true? May be that will tell us where to focus after this mess is already here to stay.
Oct 15, 2012 11:23am
Bilal, once I asked a Pakistani lady in her home to give me a glass of water. She asked me what my religion was.
Oct 14, 2012 02:35pm
Ironically, the historians mentioned are 'Saigol' and 'Nayyar' Panjabi Khatri converts... I wonder if they ever acknowledge that.
Oct 14, 2012 11:57am
How can outside scholars get their hands on Pakistani textbooks to examine their content?
Noman Aslam
Oct 14, 2012 06:05am
The 1992 book you mention, we were taught that at school (grade 9) back in 1994. And I studied it not in some government school, but at an expensive private school! And we believed it all. Great article.
Oct 14, 2012 06:10am
Glad you mentioned that this bizarre excersise of rewriting history began in the 1970s. And yes, it is correct that this was then consolidated and done more agressively in the next decade by the Zia regime. Though governments havn't done do after Zia, but not much had been done to discontinue these textbooks. In fact the hate narrative that is found in these books have now become the mainstream narrative found in the media.
Oct 15, 2012 06:36am
Bad remains bad whether we do it or India. Doing something that india does as well does not make us any better. moreover, they have a much more tolerant society then us with ofcourse certain exceptions which exist everywhere.
Oct 14, 2012 05:13pm
Na its not about kashmir.......its somwhere in middleeast the problem has to end there remaining events will cascade....the people of region what is now called pakistan had accepted 3 faiths historically..... who knows what will be their 4th ?
Oct 14, 2012 05:13pm
Wishful thinking probably a result of an intense study of Pakistan Studies.
Oct 14, 2012 04:41pm
And we will keep striving for that even when we have multplied into Balochstan, Sindhu Desh, Pakhtunistan and Islamic republic Of Punjab. Education, health, Roti-Kaprha Aur Makan can wait. First thing first. India, Damn India, USA, Damn USA, Israel, Damn Israel, Afganistan, Damn Afganistan, Iran,Damn.....................................
Oct 14, 2012 12:39pm
History is important and it tells us where we come from and to not to,repeat the errors, but as paracha said that our history is been modified just to satisfy only muslims,and all the other pakistanis living in Pakistan became potantial enemies,now thats bad,but until we change our eduction system and become more lib?rale, until than its all zia,taliban,bhuttos and the rest!!....!!!!!!.!.!.!.!.!.
Proud Pakistani
Oct 14, 2012 02:08pm
I think its about time we teach young ones not to hate fellow Pakistani . Teach them to treat all equal. Muslims, hindus , Christians .Parsis, Sikhs. Teach why we have white stripe in green flag .
Oct 15, 2012 11:05am
Most Indians didn't care about Pakistan until you stated sending jihadis across the border. Stop doing so, and Indian would stop catering about you again. There's no deep rooted hatred of Pakistan.
Oct 14, 2012 03:53pm
@Proud Pakistan That would be a good beginning. But why not replace the word "Pakistani" with " human being". Better yet to replace it with "living being". And still better to teach them to love God's creation i.e everything you see around you. But will the Mullas allow it ? ( Unki Dukan Sirf Nafrat Se Chalti Hai. ) How many real men there are in Pakistan who can take this challange ? That young girl Malala is "The Man" the Pakistani can get some inspiration from. Hope and Pray she recovers to carry on her Jihad against the Sharia Obsessed Mullas, to save Pakistan and Islam. Seriously, to start with, start thinking with your own brain instead of letting Mullas think for you and control you like puppets. Think before you start shouting slogans and come out in the street to detroy public/private property and becoming accomplice in deaths. Just remember, when you do that, you are hurting Pakistan and discredting Islam. Think, Think, Think, ........
A Friend
Oct 15, 2012 06:17am
People are afraid of reality my friend till one day it stares them in the over!!!
Oct 15, 2012 06:21am
Sorry but he does not have the moral, physical, or intellectual qualities for them to hire him...perhaps only to shine their shoes.
Oct 15, 2012 06:24am
Why do you call him fool and present no proof. Then you accuse him, again without proof. Why do you do this?
Oct 15, 2012 06:25am
True. Very true.
Rooted Pakistani
Oct 14, 2012 07:19am
Sabiha, are you that simplistic. I hope you are otherwise I will have to see you as being just stupid. The article and the academics that it quotes are not talking about the teaching of Indian or western culture. They are talking about how huge parts of our history is being hidden to make us believe that we as a people had nothing to with other religions of the region. It is about teaching lies in the name of history.
Rohail Mehmood
Oct 14, 2012 08:15am
Yup. Teach the truth. Recognize all aspects of your history, Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, Jain, Zorastrian, Sikh, Christian, secular. On a different note, I want to share with NFP a Urdu history book that wad being taught in soome schools of the Punjab in the late nineteen eighties. It had nothing but scorn for Mughal kings like Abker and excessive praise for last major Mughal king, Aurangzeb. And we know why. Akber was liberal and Aurangzeb a religious man. It is forgotten both were great rulers of ancient India, but many conservative historians cannot stand Akber. It's amazing how in that book the writer only rarely mentions the economic, military, social and cultural achievements of Akber, but had more words about how Akber so badly treated the ulema. Amazing.
Oct 15, 2012 07:43pm
Why should the Pakistani leadership care what the truth is? Pakistan has nuclear weapons! Pakistan has well-armed police, rangers, and terrorists who act outside the law! What does Justice have to do with "facts" or "fairness" or religion as long as people with power attain their goal of imposing their own desires on others?
Oct 14, 2012 07:58am
what are you writing Sohail, we were told that comments are moderated before publishing - what is the moderator doing. None of my posts so far approved by Dawn and I am surpirsed how do you approved this one. Just dont make any sense to me.
Oct 14, 2012 08:40am
If we tamper with history we will not be able to learn any lessons from it. No wonder every day people keep asking who is the enemy and who is the friend. Is this our war, is this their war kind of questions will never arise. No wonder Pakistani citizens simply cannot believe or accept that it is their own action that has to be blamed. Tampering with history has now made the job of rectifying falsehood a hundred times tougher.
Oct 14, 2012 08:35am
" Just dont make any sense to me " Just laugh it off or you will go crazy. Even moderator is "Made In Islamic Republic Of Pakistan"
Oct 14, 2012 08:07am
With citizens like you, no wonder that Pakistan is where it is. Even praying to god to save Pakistan is futile.
Oct 14, 2012 08:28am
Brother Adnan, the article is simply stating that the 'Ideology of Pakistan' that is being peddled by school text books in Pakistan is not of Jinnah's but the religious lobby's. For example, can you please site Jinnah ever uttering things like Bin Qasim was the first Pakistani, or Gandhi was an extremist, or we need a jihad? And also, as NFP rightly mentions, none of these text books have ever been able to site a single speech of Jinnah in which he mentions the term, 'Ideology of Pakistan.' If you can, then please do share.
Oct 14, 2012 03:36pm
Problem with Muslims in Subcontinent is they get confused between Relegion and Arabic Culture. They think that Arabic Culture is Islamic Culture. This is the war between Arabic Culture and Culture in the subconinent.
Baighairat Kafir
Oct 14, 2012 03:18pm
You are right. However, even more important thing to teach is to not to hate a fellow human, irrespective of his color, religion and gender! To be a good good Muslim or a good Pakistani you have to become a good human being first.
A.B Moondra
Oct 14, 2012 07:41am
is there any solution of this..??that the student must b tought true history .....??
Rathindra Nath Sen
Oct 14, 2012 08:01am
Oct 14, 2012 02:45pm
I'm a doctor writing from Hyderabad, India. I once treated a Hindu Punjabi priest whose family happened to work in the famous Katas Raj temple. They fled on the roof of a train during Partition. He told me how he believed that "life is a thought". If your thoughts are positive, then your life will be positive, if they are negative, then you life will be the other way. Going by this article, it is clear that treating hate to young children will only breed a nation angry with the outside world. I would not like to comment on issues of Ideology. But it makes sense that if you teach love and respect to children, they will in turn treat others the same way. Best wishes NFP.
What The...
Oct 14, 2012 03:38pm
India. Absolutely.
Oct 14, 2012 07:05am
Very true and insightful NFP. What has wrought on all this is basically a deep rooted inferiority complex which stems from the origins & theo-philosophical genesis of this nation. What we see today is an actual failure of that endoctrined bluff and bluster. It is this fundamental mindset flaw that we are beset with and stubbornly refuse to shed. So until we rid ourselves of this 'heady false notion' of who we really are, we will remain mired in our mess. And the more we try to riggle out of our self-created mess, the more entangled we will tend to get. All weve done since inception is only take from humanity and give nothing in return.
Oct 14, 2012 08:27am
to what extent india is responsible for creation of bangladesh and to what extent west pakistan;s (present day pakistan) failure to understand appreciations of people of East pakistan is responsible. the ethnic, linguistic and cultural chasm between east and west was further widened when west Pakistan kept economic pie of foriegn aid to the exclusion of east. why blame india?.sir it is time the Pakistan answer this question it will not only solve some of the india pakistan problem; but may also solve some of Pakistan's internal problems in Balochistan and sindh..
Oct 14, 2012 07:25am
As the British Raj prepared to withdraw from India, muslim leaders,particularly Mr Jinnah, realised that muslims would not be treated fairly in a united India by the Hindu majority. His main concern was the economic well-being of muslim community.Unfortunately Jinnah was surrounded by self-serving sycophants and after his untimely demise, the reins of the state went into the hands of this cabal.Almost all of them were migrants from India and hence had nothing in common with the original inhabitants of the state. A common religion was their only claim to legitimacy. I am sure your middle-aged readers would still remember the stories about Mohajireen-e-Makka and Ansarul Madina, which were forced upon us ad nauseam by our teachers in state-run schools.The ruling class was supposed to be 'Mohajirs', who had suffered a great deal and had 'sacrificed' a lot in order to call Pakistan their home. And it was our, the 'Ansars' duty to allow them to be our rulers, give them our land and property and those lucky or unlucky enough who had more than one wife were supposed to hand over the extra one to one of our 'Mohajir' brothers. Pakistan's 'descent into anarchy' and religious bigotry begins with the introduction of the so-called Objectives Resolution and with the ruling class's cynical effort to use religion for carving a constituency for itself. It is crucial for Pakistan's survival that we accept the fact that it is a land of many nations. Pakistan needs a new beginning. Devising a new constitution would be the first step in that direction.
Oct 14, 2012 07:11am
"In their study, both Nayyar and Salim conclude that one should not be surprised at the irrational hate and confusion among Pakistani children after what they learn at school: a state of mind that they can carry well into their adult life as well..." Did you see one such adult's comment here?
Oct 14, 2012 08:01am
Masjid Dha Day, Mandir Dha Day Dha Day Jo Kujh Disda Par Kissay Da Dil Na Dhawee(n) Rub Dilaa(n) Wich Wasda --Bulle Shah Translation Tear down the Mosque, tear down the temple Tear down every thing in sight But don't (tear down) break anyone's heart Because God lives there--Bulleh Shah