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Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif on Wednesday said 11 Indian soldiers were killed on November 14 after Pakistan Army ‘responded to unprovoked firing’.
The Pakistan Army suffered the loss of seven soldiers on the day, all casualties were sustained in the Bhimber sector of the Line of Control (LoC).
“The Indian army should man up and accept their losses,” said the chief of army staff.
He also said that unlike the Indian army, the Pakistan Army accepts and owns its casualties.
General Raheel added that the army should be credited with exemplary teamwork.
“The army has given outstanding results while defending the homeland,” added General Raheel Sharif.
He also said a message has been conveyed to Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi that aggressive actions will not bear any results.
Cross-border firing a new normal
Cross-border firing appears to have become a routine as tensions simmer between Pakistan and India following an alleged 'surgical strike', unrest in Kashmir and the Uri army base attack.
The Indian deputy high commissioner has been summoned to the Foreign Office several times in protest against 'unprovoked' Indian fire and loss of lives due to incidents of cross-border firing.
Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi stepped up a drive to isolate Pakistan diplomatically after the Uri army base attack last month. Hours after the attack occurred, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh termed Pakistan a 'terrorist state' and accused Pakistan of involvement.
The Uri attack occurred days before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was set to address the United Nations General Assembly regarding Indian human rights violations in held Kashmir.
Following the attack, India claimed it had conducted a cross-border 'surgical strike' against 'launch pads of terror' in Azad Jammu and Kashmir — a claim Pakistan has strongly rejected.
Pakistan maintains that India is attempting to divert the world's attention away from atrocities committed by government forces in India-held Kashmir.
Pakistan and India have, most recently, locked horns over Kashmir since Indian forces stepped up a crackdown against protesters after Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani was killed by government forces in July.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:11pm
Quid pro quo.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:16pm
What's really going on border. Truth will never come out..when all this will be stop?
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Nov 16, 2016 10:16pm
Good job General.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:17pm
Well Said RS, Bravo.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:21pm
Proud of pak army
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Nov 16, 2016 10:22pm
IT is almost seventy years now. How long this tit for tate will go on,with innocent loss of lives on both sides.Both sides have to come up with a reasonable compromise on both sides to solve this simmering Kashmir problem ,which is impending human development on both sides.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:24pm
“The Indian army should man up and accept their losses,” lion roars
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Nov 16, 2016 10:25pm
“The Indian army should man up and accept their losses,”
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Nov 16, 2016 10:25pm
Sad.... at the end it's soldiers who die be it either side of the border
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Nov 16, 2016 10:26pm
Please make a note these are not just mere numbers but they were living human beings on either side like us... please stop this madness. To protect more lives.. lets say what I used to do in my childhood 'jeet di.. khush ho jao'
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Nov 16, 2016 10:26pm
If they do 7 we do 14; if they do 4 we do 5 and so it goes with our uniformed minds. When will we learn humility? Eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth has already made us blind, toothless and international pariahs and more or less isolated. If we killed 14 of theirs it is not a act of bravery but callous cruelty and revenge. When will our leaders learn to take the moral high ground and cease these acts of vendetta?
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Nov 16, 2016 10:27pm
Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif on Wednesday said 11 Indian soldiers were killed on November 14 after Pakistan Army ‘responded to unprovoked firing’.
How can we be so sure about the numbers , it can be more.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:26pm
Logically, It is not possible that there are no casualties on Indian side. Pakistan Army has also moved small artillery to forward posts. There is no way that Indian Army can evade the fire from the opposite direction. Man up, and agree to the losses. This will highlight the gravity of the situation. Jawan's on both sides are living on few thousand Rs a months, have quite a few kids and unfortunately un-educated wives who cannot fend for themselves. This madness must end.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:27pm
They cannot men up. Men don't kill and shoot with pellets unarmed civilians.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:27pm
Politics over dead bodies in both side. Feeling sad :(
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Nov 16, 2016 10:29pm
Weldone pak army. We're strongly believe in you, what's you say what's you do.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:31pm
As expected, great response by Pakistan. The Indian side does not have what it takes to accept is loss. What a befitting reply by our smaller but valiant force to Indian adventurism. We are really proud of our army. Pakistan zindabad.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:31pm
Pakistan Zindabad, Pak Army Zindabad...
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Nov 16, 2016 10:32pm
Thumbs Up to General!
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Nov 16, 2016 10:32pm
Love
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Nov 16, 2016 10:36pm
This is very unfortunate. Killing of ordinary soldiers should not be justified for any reasons from any side. Why not to work to diffuse the volatile situation instead of announcing the number of killed? There would be no end to it and both countries would suffer from it. What happened to the hot line? Can the commanders meet each other and disengage from the border line perhaps another 3-4 miles.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:36pm
They man up or enough doesn't mater. Please save our soldiers.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:37pm
blood is same whether we live on any side of the fence. Indian aggression if continue then it will escalate human catastrophic, and that is not right. Indian people should grow up now, and come to the negotiation table and resolve all the issue related to Jammu and Kashmir. Kashmiri Muslims doesn't want to live under occupation, let them live freely.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:37pm
And that's how is going to be. Aggressor will now be made to pay heavily. Enough patience shown by Pakistan. We love peace but will respond with iron hand if someone tries to takes undue advantage of our desire for peace. Love the man. Pakistan zindabad.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:38pm
It is unfortunate that India lost 11 soldiers on 14th Nov and did not own up.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:38pm
It's sad that poor Indian soldiers don't get any recognition after giving the lives just because Indian government not brave enough to admit their loss.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:40pm
It's quite obvious that these claims are made by either sides frequently just to pacify and calm their angry crowd on the loss of their countrymen. Any logical brain can deduce that if this was true, will the families of these 11 men not enquire or make noise about their beloveds ever!
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Nov 16, 2016 10:49pm
Indian chief doesn't ant even have the moral courage to attend funeral of its soldiers. Expecting the militay that now follow bollywood lines cannot be expected of such deeds
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Nov 16, 2016 10:53pm
what a sad situation! killing each other for nothing itself is inhuman !
further challenging each other as to who killed more is silly and idiotic? aand unfortunate!both the countries should stop this inhuman acts.!
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Nov 16, 2016 10:55pm
So what if 11 Indian Soldiers are killed? Are we here to count how many are killed on each side? Please make efforts to stop cross border firing and prevent casualties on both sides.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:56pm
This is pretty bad on both sides part. Our 7 shouldn't have died, and by extension their 11 didn't need to be killed.
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Nov 16, 2016 10:58pm
why are we proud that we killed 14 Indian soldiers?
Useless shelling and useless casualties on both sides.
Would one country become lesser if it stopped cross border firing?
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Nov 16, 2016 10:59pm
Just wish sanity prevails and people wise up. Reduce ultra nationalism and not elect fanatics hoping that they would be able to make them superior to every other race by violence. Natanyaho, Modi and now Trump! The world is going for annihlation.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:01pm
So now we know India lost 14 soldiers and hid it from the public. They even left their dead soldiers bodies and ran away. Brave Pak soldiers instructed them to come and give them a decent burial.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:04pm
India is always on the wrong side of history...they will know in 10 years
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Nov 16, 2016 11:09pm
Mr. Sharif, is all these fights worth the loss of any person, it doesn't matter Indian or Pakistani.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:10pm
Pak army ready to defend each and every inch of its soil.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:11pm
Sir, the Indiands don't have a Army Chief like you nor an army like ours. They live on propoganda, lies and deceipt.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:10pm
This game is not gonna go anywhere! We should try to stop this crazyness. India in running around like a mad elephant!
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Nov 16, 2016 11:15pm
Dear Indian & Pakistani politicians and armies , Please stop killing each other poor soldiers. They have families and they are the only bread winner of the families ( wife , kids , parents ..) unlike your big bank balances and properties.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:17pm
Lion of Pakistan
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Nov 16, 2016 11:17pm
Let us give peace a chance. Let India and Pakistan be satisfied with what they have of Kashmir and allow citizens to live in peace.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:20pm
Bravo Chief.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:21pm
Thats what we call straight talking.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:22pm
The loss of soldiers on both sides is highly unfortunate but Modi has to be taught in his own language. Weldone General!
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Nov 16, 2016 11:28pm
When I see the faces of our martyrs I disappeared in the long dark tunnel,there no way out,no light at the end of it.
War clouds are covering the sky.I pray to God for changing their mentally approach before horrible bloodshed and catastrophic scenes destruction.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:30pm
Sir,
You are doing great job protecting the borders. In past i was disagree with some of your action but now i think you are man of owner.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:33pm
Haven't heard about any of this in any media except from the General. Who knows what the truth is but both countries are suffering casualties without a doubt.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:34pm
Best army chief in history of Pakistan. No words can define him.. Respect from Shanghai, China.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:40pm
BRAVO
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Nov 16, 2016 11:42pm
You Rock General........
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Nov 16, 2016 11:43pm
Thank you sir we are proud of you!!!
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Nov 16, 2016 11:45pm
tit for tat. why India does not get it that escalating unprovoked attacks on Pakistani soil will also result in the loss of their soldiers as well. it looks like Modi don't give a damn about the Indian soldiers. look at our country how cherished are our armed forces. at least learn some lesson from us.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:47pm
Once, in a village an elderly man was standing outside his home , a rifle hanging with his shoulder, someone asked him you seems a reasonable and peaceful citizen then why you keep this weapon with you, 'Off course I am a peaceful citizen this is only to keep the neighborhoods peaceful!' . Situation fits in well here..
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Nov 16, 2016 11:53pm
Number counting make no sense. Pakistan's response should have been much severer then this. It is not for the first time that our army men killed by the Indian army firing. Over 30 army men including officers were killed on Salala Post attack. What was our military response as per rules of engagement? Did we square that number too?
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Nov 16, 2016 11:55pm
Well said general. Now india should stand up and accept the losses.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:56pm
Both counties political leaderships should seek political solution not measuring success and scoring points by killing innocent soldiers. There will never be a military solution.
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Nov 16, 2016 11:56pm
Loss of lives is no ones gain - on both sides!
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Nov 16, 2016 11:57pm
Losses like in '65, '71 and '99
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Nov 17, 2016 12:00am
I love raheel shareef
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Nov 17, 2016 12:04am
Gen Sharif, there is no reporting of deaths of Indian soldiers in the Indian media. Are you saying India is lying? The last time I checked their news stories I found there were no reports of lives lost on their side.
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Nov 17, 2016 12:21am
Long Live Lions of Pakistan..
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Nov 17, 2016 12:37am
Perfectly retaliated.
Excellent work pak army.
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Nov 17, 2016 12:52am
General Sahab. You roar like a lion and the enemies are scared.
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Nov 17, 2016 01:04am
COAS . man of honor
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Nov 17, 2016 01:11am
Dangerous situation!!
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Nov 17, 2016 01:41am
why India is hiding , be brave to accept the casualties
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Nov 17, 2016 01:55am
It's sad that body count will continue on both sides,both sides should stop this nonsense immediately and solve the problems peacefully.
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Nov 17, 2016 02:01am
I wonder that how these guys count number of casualties with so much perfection. Both sides comes up with a number but who goes beyond the border and confirm if a soldier died or injured or no casualty at all, just a thought!!
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Nov 17, 2016 02:03am
Man up indians. Normal life is different than bollywood.
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Nov 17, 2016 02:05am
Whoever threatens our country eliminate them one by one. Great work Pak Army. Salute Gen Raheel Sharif and all patriots
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Nov 17, 2016 02:10am
Looks like Pakistan is winning again.
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Nov 17, 2016 02:10am
Rightly said
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Nov 17, 2016 02:59am
We should not rejoice of killing any human being. India and Pakistan should sit on table and resolve the issue. PEACE IND&PAK. Thanks.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:24am
The bitter truth
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Nov 17, 2016 03:26am
Killing each other's is not a solution. Both sides need to respect LOC.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:31am
He is a lion. India, please come out of illusion.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:37am
What is the need of this bloodshed. It is imperative that both sides need to get together and ask Kashmiris what they want. No undue influence should be put on Kashmir from either side.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:52am
The macabre dance of death continues on both sides of the border. This needs to stop. Could Readers from both sides suggest a viable possible solution acceptable to BOTH nations. Hatred must stop. 70 years of hate is too long. Fight hunger poverty illiteracy together and let love and peace prevail.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:46am
Well done to the Pak Army for giving a cracking response to the Indian Army for their aggressive behaviour.
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Nov 17, 2016 05:00am
Voooow commendable job keep it up.
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Nov 17, 2016 06:13am
Only low ranks soldiers are being killed on either side.
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Nov 17, 2016 06:30am
India should come clear and acceot their casualties. Why hide it?
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Nov 17, 2016 07:17am
cool... you answered your supporter :)
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Nov 17, 2016 07:26am
Please please please...stop this madness and insanity of bloodshed. What are India and Pakistan going to achieve with this dance of death, except for more pain and suffering for loved ones on both sides. Both nations need to fight poverty, hunger and illiteracy together.
Dawn Readers - please suggest a viable solution acceptable to both sides.
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Nov 17, 2016 07:34am
A great leaders, will be remembered in the History.
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Nov 17, 2016 07:39am
@Nuh indeed!
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Nov 17, 2016 08:18am
Now India will come with another illusionary story for it's people.
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Nov 17, 2016 08:21am
Sad to see no strong statements from our defence minister Kwaja Asif.
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Nov 17, 2016 08:39am
So now human life is used to tally a score, what a pity.....
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Nov 17, 2016 08:44am
@Shiraz Will be remembered after retirement.
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Nov 17, 2016 08:55am
@Vj;
The two armies are fighting on the border. The real brutality is happening on the other side of the border where an army is fighting unarmed children.
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Nov 17, 2016 10:11am
Pak army values its martyrs. Indian army treats its soldiers as a commodity available cheap and abundant.
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Nov 17, 2016 10:14am
@OneHumanity Recognising LOC as official boarder would solve the problem I guess.
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Nov 17, 2016 10:42am
Both the countries believe in their Armies and are proud of them..One cannot say who is true and false..Preiod
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Nov 17, 2016 10:43am
A day would come once india would recognize the right of self determination of Kashmiris, peace would prevail between pak and india, Afghanistan would be prosperous and free of becoming a launch pad for Ajit Doval policies, and south asia would emerge as a global example of peace and prosperity, lets hope
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Nov 17, 2016 10:46am
Indians need to be answered in their own language.
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Nov 17, 2016 11:11am
Excellent response to attackers.
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Nov 17, 2016 12:01pm
@Rashid , This is the thing which every countrymen says for his country
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Nov 17, 2016 12:08pm
Long live Pakistan Army and Pakistan. Hats off to you Mr. Raheel Sharif.
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Nov 17, 2016 12:24pm
“The Indian army should man up and accept their losses.” Unlike the Indian army, the Pakistan Army accepts and owns its casualties.
Message loud and clear.
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Nov 17, 2016 01:07pm
Not a single comment from our Eastern neighbour? I don't want to have war of words in this forum but I would like the citizens of India to ask these questions from their leaders so they know that they can't just make up stories and fool their own citizens. It's been happening for longtime now. I am not saying that we are clean either but on this matter, things have been way to much manipulated by BJP leaders. Anyhow, Raheel Sharif & Pak Arm forces have been dealing with eastern borders issues professionally and with strength. I appreciate it and totally in agreement. I firmly believe that we Should not start the war but defend any evil plans of our enemy with full strength. When it's about defending motherland, it's should always be like " Do or Die". Keep up the great effort Pakistan Forces!
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Nov 17, 2016 02:10pm
@World citizen
there are interceptors to signal massages and spies who confirm and are crossed cheeked. once an official as high as Army chief gives a statement it is far sure confirmed
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Nov 17, 2016 02:31pm
when two elephants fight, it's the grass that suffers. both sides should find a middle ground to settle their disputes..we can't afford this bloodshed anymore
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Nov 17, 2016 03:17pm
Can we please end this madness?
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Nov 17, 2016 03:18pm
India says, Pakistan violating LOC to pump militants.
Pakistan says, India violating to deviate Kashmir issue.
Both countries trust their armies...never ending story.
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Nov 17, 2016 03:42pm
@democrat they ll never own
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Nov 17, 2016 04:13pm
Till Kashmir is resolved to the will of its people, India Pak ties will always need blood. I am a Pakistani and mourn on our loss but on the other side their were innocent who died for bad policies. I hope one day we will make good calls.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:26pm
I am not in support of blood bath between the two nations. However, it is important to give a befitting response to the mischievous leaders of India. I hope our response will help lower down the power hangover of Mr. Modi.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:37pm
Good show from pakistan.. now it's time for india.
I laugh at this.. how stupid are these countries and some of the comments i see on this post.
None of these countries have their own weapons.. they buy from other countries and fire on each other,
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Nov 17, 2016 04:42pm
@gknatarajan Oh so now its unfortunate. Killing 29 civilians on our border isnt!!!!!!! Whats wrong with you people.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:51pm
@Booza ; Pakistan has already changed history books and u r seeing it from a wrong side already...!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 17, 2016 06:17pm
For the sake of humanity we have to stop this game of counting body bags on both side of the border. I hope at the end common sense prevails.
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Nov 17, 2016 07:19pm
an eye for an eye makes entire world blind - Mahatma Gandhi
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Nov 17, 2016 07:22pm
@Sikandar How about asking the Kashmiris themselves. Isn't that called democracy.
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Nov 17, 2016 07:57pm
Stupid leaders on both sides talk bad and poor people lose lives. Pakistan or India can not pack and move to another location. These are neighbors for life and need to live in peace. Both sides have real issues which need to be addressed.
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Nov 17, 2016 08:21pm
India is trying to derail Pak progress. We need to stay resolute in our goals and let no one stop our progress.
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Nov 18, 2016 12:45pm
@immo WOW ! Great !
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Nov 18, 2016 07:13pm
@OSO - trust the one who is not afraid to hide and willing to have a third party to police it and report the reality
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Nov 18, 2016 08:55pm
Very nic of Pakistan Armi and most pover full of Armi ALL of world
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Nov 18, 2016 10:33pm
@Tintin
well said tintin
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Nov 19, 2016 01:09am
It is heartbreaking to hear that two civilised nations like India and Pakistan can't come to the table and settle their differences, please give peace a chance.
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Nov 19, 2016 12:39pm
Let us be clear their can never be peace with any entity that openly oppresses defenseless people. Lets remember Kashmir is 90% plus Muslim the only reason India is in Kashmir is because their are aware that Kashmir will opt with Pakistan..naturally.
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Nov 19, 2016 12:42pm
@Rashid Sultan
Defending the motherland and the sovereignty of your nation is a duty. The question that you ask needs to be directed more towards the oppressor.
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