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Interview: ‘Indus treaty can't be revoked unilaterally’

Updated Sep 27, 2016 12:40pm


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ISLAMABAD: In its anti-Pakistan rhetoric following Islamabad’s recent diplomatic effort to highlight the Kashmir issue, the government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has been whipping up ideas to scrap the Indus Waters Treaty (IWT) of 1960 to cause irreparable economic loss to the lower riparian.

While such a move could be labelled as a ‘hostile act’ and attract international criticism, India has the capability to increase the use of waters flowing into the Indus, Chenab and Jhelum rivers. It can also build more reservoirs in India-occupied Kashmir as a double-edge weapon.

Signed by President Ayub Khan and Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru in Sept 1960 and brokered by the World Bank, the treaty set bilateral principles of water sharing between the two nations. Under the provisions of the treaty that also survived the 1965 and 1971 wars, the waters of the eastern rivers — the Sutlej, Beas and Ravi — had been allocated to India and the western rivers — the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab — to Pakistan except for certain non-consumptive uses.

Dawn spoke to Ahmer Bilal Soofi, a former federal law minister, President Research Society of International Law and an advocate in the Supreme Court on the issue. Following is the Q&A of the session.

Q: Can India unilaterally revoke IWT?

A: India has no legal competence under the treaty to revoke it per se on its own. Article 12(4) of the treaty entitles the termination of the treaty only if both India and Pakistan agree in writing. In other words, a termination treaty has to be drafted by both states and then ratified by both, to bring the IWT to an end. The treaty has no provision for unilateral “suspension”. It is of an indefinite duration and was never intended to be time-specific or event-specific.

The IWT is not regime-specific — but rather state-specific. It will not expire with regime change. It is binding on both the states equally and offers no exit provision. Walking away from a treaty is in effect its breach. If India unilaterally stops following the treaty by giving any justification such as “revocation”, “suspension”, “withdrawal” or “annulment” etc. then it really means that it has decided to interrupt the water flow into Pakistan. In other words what India will call “revocation or withdrawal”, Pakistan will refer to as a “breach”.

Q: Is there any arbitration clause that can be set in motion should India go to that extreme?

A: There is an arbitration clause in the IWT. It is article IX and annexes F and G which contain detailed procedures about the taking of the grievance by either party under the IWT first to the commission, then to a neutral expert and later to the forum of arbitrators. Under the IWT, if India thinks that Pakistan’s conduct constitutes a dispute under article IX, then it must commence the procedure prescribed under Annexes F and G. India cannot itself conclude that Pakistan has breached the treaty on any grounds, including mistrust.

In case India “revokes” the treaty, it literally means it has shunned it. The dispute resolution mechanism under article IX and Annexes F and G of the IWT will be of no use and assistance to Pakistan.

It is limited to a dispute under the treaty and not meant to provide for specific performance of the treaty itself.

Since there is no provision in the IWT about its duration or suspension, there is no avenue that Pakistan can approach for “revival” of the treaty. Nor can Pakistan approach the International Court of Justice seeking specific performance to implement the treaty because of the Indian reservation given under IC J statute that bars filing of case by Pakistan against India.

In other words, Pakistan will not be left with any peaceful mechanism for seeking performance of the treaty by India.

Q: What if India stops Pakistani waters downstream and could this set a precedent for China upstream? Indian acts as a precedence for China?

A: Even if there were no IWT, an upper riparian, under the International Water Law, has no right to stop the water flow to a lower riparian. In case India tries to interrupt water flow into Pakistan as an upper riparian, it is setting up a regional state practice which under international law can serve as a precedence and equip China with an argument to consider suspension of the waters of Brahmaputra river.

India may have already damaged itself by even considering the suspension of water flow as an upper riparian and the Chinese government must be watching Indian moves with interest.

Q: How did IWT survive the 1965 and 1971 conflicts?

A: The treaty survived the two wars as well as other Pakistan-India conflicts because none of them were termed a war under international law. They were armed conflicts short of the legal status of “war”.

In the event of a war, states are entitled to suspend treaties, including diplomatic relations. In fact, if India considers revoking the treaty, it is itself signalling the same to be an act of war or a hostile act against Pakistan. This will equip Pakistan with the right under international law to take up any other coercive or non-coercive measure as an act of reprisal.

Treaties are state-specific obligations, and not regime- specific. These are not contingent upon deterioration of political atmosphere. It is much better that the states implement treaties through mutual trust, but even if there is deterioration of trust on account of extraneous events then that, per se, cannot be the sole reason to consider revocation of the treaty.

Published in Dawn, September 27th, 2016


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R S Chakravarti Sep 27, 2016 09:56am

Since the Indus system provides Pakistan with most of its water, India should not disrupt the flow. The treaty is another matter. India should explore all options.

As far as I can see, this treaty was unnecessary for India all along. India should have taken the approach that China does in such matters. It can start now.

ramesh Sep 27, 2016 11:05am

India not ask anyone for doing something

Tejaswi Sep 27, 2016 11:08am

You guys don't get it. Do you think that we will do this directly?

Ashish Sep 27, 2016 11:13am

Why breake treaty. just start increasing the water consumption as much as possible.

suprises Sep 27, 2016 11:21am

'Interview: ‘Indus treaty can't be revoked unilaterally’

India is the 7th Greatest country in the world and is G20 member, wait for surprises.

ANT Sep 27, 2016 11:24am

Bottom line what can anyone do if India pulls out unilaterally? Go to international court. China has rejected verdict on south china sea and Pakistan supports it.

Khurram Sep 27, 2016 11:30am

After Indus War Treaty, today the Most Favoured Nation status to Pakistan is up for review

Sandip Sep 27, 2016 11:31am

India isn't breaking the treaty. India isn't using the water that India gets as per the treaty. As a result, Pakistan gets more than what has been agreed upon. The Indian Govt. is now deciding on harnessing the water so that Pakistan does not get more water than what was agreed upon. No body can read anything sinister in it, technically.

Sehan Sep 27, 2016 11:38am

@suprises they are all doing for the election stunts .....

Manoj Sep 27, 2016 11:43am

If emotions in India runs high, the water could be diverted without breaking the treaty.

Vectra Sep 27, 2016 11:43am

I think India also knows that Indus treaty can't be revoked unilaterally nor India wants to revoke it because in Indian tradition denying water to any one is considered inhumane.

But what yesterdays meeting is about is not about revoking IWT and the same was reported by Indian media as well,instead the yesterdays decision by India on IWT is about more effective utilization of Indus rivers and increase of the India's share in IWT.

waqas sultan Sep 27, 2016 11:47am

Modi is celebrated by a vast majority of India...but the way he is dealing things is like an immature street boy......sooner not later Indians themselves would realize what he has done to them through his erratic behavior....... India has grown over the years not under ppl like Modi and he might end up spending all the wealth in utter non senses.

John Sep 27, 2016 11:55am

those who support china on South china sea are talking here treaty

Economic downturn Sep 27, 2016 11:55am

Pakistani economy will go down especially revenues generated from Agriculture will go down after review of IWT.

Salam Namaste Sep 27, 2016 12:01pm

You can take this to UN and wait for another 70 years to resolve dispute. Choice is yours. Live in peace and let live in peace

Ajay Sachdeva Sep 27, 2016 12:03pm

@John Well Said John.

hassan Sep 27, 2016 12:04pm

If India decides to this then it will itself get isolated from the world. No one will support India in doing this.

dshuman Sep 27, 2016 12:08pm
  1. India is not even using the agreed share as of now
  2. Indian state of J&K find it discriminatory for state, the rivers passes through entire state of J&K, and asked to revise this treaty in 2003
  3. It is all Media frenzy, India is a responsible state, no adhock / absurd decision will be taken on this.
  4. Despite ALL GOODWILL , and providing MAX water to Pakistan, I have only seen negative voices about India and this treaty in Pakistan (WHY ???).
austin luke furtado Sep 27, 2016 12:09pm

The question is whether its physically possible to restrict or increase the flow of these river systems from India into Pakistan ???.....If the answer is NO then all the rhetoric from India is just that , rhetoric....but....if the answer is YES , I'd be afraid....very very afraid......

sajj Sep 27, 2016 12:17pm

Even bringing this up is extremely dangerous.

Thought Sep 27, 2016 12:18pm

@suprises we saw suprisescwhen your diplomacy failed miserably.

It is also mention in treaty that India cannot make dams to stop water as well. Do not straight away believe what your media is telling you.

karan Sep 27, 2016 12:21pm

Considering that India hasn't budged on the treaty for about 50 yrs I doubt they will now. That being said the treaty allocates far more water use to Pakistan then it does to India.

Overall, logistically it would be very difficult to divert water from Jhelum to the Punjab/Himachal, but perhaps they can explore ways to use it produce more electricity. Considering the Indus has flooded in the recent past, maybe having more control on it might even be a good thing for the neighbours- provided they both use their common sense and work on it together.

Indian Shia Sep 27, 2016 12:23pm

All talks nothing going to change.

javed Sep 27, 2016 12:28pm

what is important to see that pak can not approach ICJ in case of performance related matters..This means that India need not scrap the treaty, if they reduce the flow of water by constructing hydropower projects, its still OK as per treaty regulation... modi is doing it right, he is doing exactly the same.. China can harm only one state AASAM of India by stopping flow of Brahmputra river, which contributes to less than 3% of Indian GDP....But IWT provides water for 80% requirements of pak... CHECKMATE

Babu Bhaiya Sep 27, 2016 12:30pm

China & India are on same page here, China is claiming lions share in SC sea and India is claiming her share in rivers. If India's claim is wrong than China too should not have any claim in South China sea. This treaty is completely discrimination towards Kashmirs they can't even use their own water to generate electricity for their own use.

mimi sur Sep 27, 2016 12:34pm

Who said India will break the treaty ? We will just take away amount water we need, especially in summer . Our land, our water .

jameel Sep 27, 2016 12:53pm

India is not going to stop water. It seems India will start using its own 20% share of waters fully from now on.

raja hindustani Sep 27, 2016 01:00pm

India is not going to revoke Indus treaty. How can we stop water of any of the river even if we wishes to? For that we need to build additional dams/canals which takes decades.

But yes, Out of 6 rivers, 3 eastern front rive such as Sutlej, Beas and Ravi have given more control to India and we were under-utilizing water from them (as per the treaty). India is thinking to utilize water fully from these 3 river which is India's right from same treaty.

Western rivers - Indus, Jhelum and Chenab which has given more control to pakistan (as per treaty) will remain untouched.

D.K. PAMNANI Sep 27, 2016 01:00pm

There is no need for revoking this treaty. We shall start building up Hydro projects/ Dams for our use and consume water as much as we can. There will be no violation of treaty also. We can transfer the water to the needy areas for irrigation purposes also.

Timeto stopthis Sep 27, 2016 01:00pm

In other words, Pakistan can do nothing under the treaty if India decides to ignore the treaty.

Bilal Hussain Sep 27, 2016 01:00pm

Modi tried all options and failed. Now looking at water stoppage. That will fail too. What's next ?

Timeto stopthis Sep 27, 2016 01:03pm

Now wait and see the result of your actions.

Parsi Sep 27, 2016 01:02pm

As per Vienna Convention any international treaty can be revoked if circumstances it was made, have changed.

GHOSH Sep 27, 2016 01:12pm

A very good analysis and well written

dev Sep 27, 2016 01:17pm

@suprises India will be 3rd biggest economy in a decade at 5 trillion usd .

Aj Sep 27, 2016 01:17pm

I'm an Indian ( and very much respect Modi ) but I don't think playing hostile politics over something basic like water is right. The fact remains that we are a democratic, pleurastic society that believes in fundamental human rights and rule of law. We don't need to fall to the level of lashkar, JEM, D company or any other group harboured in Pakistan. They are and will always remain deplorables - but Pakistani people by and large have nothing to do with this. They like us are just trying to get by everyday. We need to leave a better example for our children. Making the common man suffer is certainly isn't one of them.

Angry Pitbull Sep 27, 2016 01:21pm

India should keep all the option open

DP Sep 27, 2016 01:24pm

China is not Pakistan and has more regional and global responsibility!

AZAAD Sep 27, 2016 01:34pm

Good and very timely article.

Siddhartha Singh Sep 27, 2016 01:46pm

@waqas sultan Modi said the right thing ‘Blood and water can’t flow together’ which is the feeling of entire nation. Uri attack hurt Indians very deep and its irreparable. Modi never said to scrap the treaty but he asked the officials to explore ways to use Indian share. Modi will never stop the water, India will never support to stop the water as its against our culture and ethics.

SB Sep 27, 2016 01:51pm

Not a bad agrument. Only consistency is lacking. Bilateral Simla agreement not acceptable to Pakistan and Pakistan can continue to raise Kashmir issue at all multilateral forum.

curious mind Sep 27, 2016 01:51pm

Try this now it might work for Mr.Modi to reduce his frustration. But I really doubt it

eeduu Sep 27, 2016 01:51pm

Water is life. Thirst makes people desperate. Desperate people take desperate steps. If one's life is threatened, there is not much else to care for.

Kailash Singh Sep 27, 2016 01:53pm

Modiji is right in his approach as far as national interests are concerned. One should understand that to continue such treaties there should be mutual respect and understanding

INDIAN Sep 27, 2016 01:59pm

China contributes only 5% and 10% water in Indus and Brahmaputra rivers, so even if they decide to stop water to Indian side (which is physically impossible), India will have negligible affect from this

IamBack Sep 27, 2016 02:26pm

@Sehan which election u mean ?

P Kumar Sep 27, 2016 02:31pm

India has been not taking its share of water and it will do so now. That's all that has changed

kashmiri Sep 27, 2016 02:32pm

It is our waters and it is our right to use it, IWT is against our interests and we would like it to be reviewed and changed for kashmiris to use water for agriculture,hydroelectricity .

the right wrong Sep 27, 2016 02:40pm

India has already been violating the treaty for dome time now.. but if it really starts using water as a weapon. Surely Pakistan will have no choice but to retaliate in some way. It will be an existential threat.

Namo Sep 27, 2016 02:41pm

As the treaty is adversely in favour of Pakistan and that the farmers in J&K have been complaining about this for many years .It is about time that this treaty was revised.

nithya Sep 27, 2016 02:44pm

we will drink more water from now on. simple

Timeto stopthis Sep 27, 2016 02:55pm

@the right wrong If that is the choice you prefer, then you must be open to suitable retaliation too.

salman Sep 27, 2016 03:11pm

Thats just rest the case. India cannot divert an inch and is only entitled for 19% of the Indus river usage.

Ahsan Sep 27, 2016 03:13pm

Just wondering how China will react? Stop all the river flowing into India? How will India react on this approach?

failed weapon Sep 27, 2016 03:17pm

‘Indus treaty can't be revoked unilaterally’

So according to the writer this is the failed weapon used by Modi.

lafanga Sep 27, 2016 03:18pm

@suprises If India thinks that it can unilaterally play with the lives of 200 million Pakistanis then I am sure India will get bigger surprise then you can throw at Pakistan.

All the steps that Modi is taking is bringing the two sides to a violent confrontation. Don't think Pakistan will sit quietly while India bulldozes it's way thru harming the ordinary Pakistanis. Every step Modi takes now will have consequences on both sides. Rest assured.

AHA Sep 27, 2016 03:20pm

Pakistan must be happy as Kashmiris will get more water and prosperity. More water means whole life is changed.

Jack Sep 27, 2016 03:22pm

Maybe this will give a hint to the corrupt politicians to build more dams in pakistan to use water effectively rather than building dams in their bank account to stop the money flow down to poor people. Until we get rid of these corrupt elite nothing can change in pakistan. Locl them all up and start with fresh honest people.

FAZ Sep 27, 2016 03:22pm

@Babu Bhaiya
450MW of electricity is generated in Indian Kashmir, on Kashmiri waters and only 12% is allowed to be used in Kashmir. the rest is exported. 08hrs of load shedding is a routine in Kashmir

Gaurav Sep 27, 2016 03:26pm

@Bilal Hussain-- Modi tried all options and failed.

Modi hasn't even started yet. There will be a lot of nexts

abhay Sep 27, 2016 03:29pm

still India have not exploited western rivers fully," the sources said, adding India would exercise its legal rights under the treaty to the maximum capacity. Asked if China would react to India's decision, sources said Beijing was not a party to the Indus Water Treaty and noted that it was already building dams on Brahmaputra river water of which was shared by India and China.

abhay Sep 27, 2016 03:27pm

@Ahsan "We have not exploited western rivers fully," the sources said, adding India would exercise its legal rights under the treaty to the maximum capacity. Asked if China would react to India's decision, sources said Beijing was not a party to the Indus Water Treaty and noted that it was already building dams on Brahmaputra river water of which was shared by India and China.

SHAHID MAHMOOD Sep 27, 2016 03:33pm

@John What has India got to do with the south china sea.

Indian Sep 27, 2016 03:35pm

India can not violate the treaty. But can utilize water by building dams which can gives ample of electricity to india.

papa Sep 27, 2016 03:35pm

Just consume more water... Thats all

Soumik pyne Sep 27, 2016 03:35pm

India is legally entitled to 20% of the Indus waters under the IWT. Since 1960 India hasn't used this water. Now India plans to use this water. This will reduce the flow of water into Pakistan by approximately 30million cubic feet/annum. Pakistan will still get it's entitlement of 105million cubic feet.

papa Sep 27, 2016 03:38pm

@javed ICJ will not help this india will not break the rule. only india will consume more water

Hyderabadi Sep 27, 2016 03:40pm

China is not a concern for us. Majority of Brahmaputra flows though Bangladesh. China stopping water will impact Bangladesh much more than India.

Indian Sep 27, 2016 03:47pm

And India should not...We could have issues on several fronts..

Mandy Sep 27, 2016 03:49pm

@SHAHID MAHMOOD India is a global player hence it is a cause of concern.

Mahmood Sep 27, 2016 03:51pm

So, Pakistan can close Pakistani airspace for all Indian passenger and cargo jets. Let's see how Indians suffer when they have to re-route everything over China or around the Arabian Sea.

Raja Farhat Abbas Sep 27, 2016 03:53pm

@Mahmood ,Very good Idea and suggestion.

Truth prevails Sep 27, 2016 03:54pm

@hassan Is China isolated when it rejected South CHina verdict? and Pakistan supported it!! Wah.. What a double standard

Krana Sep 27, 2016 03:57pm

@ANT What a nice response

ajay Sep 27, 2016 03:58pm

@John Perfect commnet John!!!

Iftikhar Husain Sep 27, 2016 04:13pm

Pakistan should wait and see what comes out with this whole affairs.

M.Saeed Sep 27, 2016 04:14pm

@John : So, you accept sea water same as fresh water of rivers?

Bilawal Sep 27, 2016 04:16pm

@Mahmood If you know closing of airspace by Pakistan is a common practice India uses Iran airspace. If India chooses to do the same how you will travel to Nepal & East Pakistan (B'desh)?

Timber Sep 27, 2016 04:17pm

@ANT Agree

Kabilan Sep 27, 2016 04:15pm

India will use it as a diplomatic option and will never stop water to Pakistan.

Even if India stops water unilaterally, Pak can approach International body. Ofcouse this will be another never ending issue. .

Ideally, Pak should prove that it is serious rooting out terrorism against India. If there are visible measures, then tensions might ease. Even for 26/11 Mumbai attacks, we are yet to see some visible action by PAK.

flipflop Sep 27, 2016 04:18pm

When people get way over their heads this is what happens. Creating more power plants is sure a good way to stop water flow to Pakistan; however, it seems like much thought isn't given into this plan. What will India do about the negative impacts of these dams on wildlife surrounding the Indus river ? What will India do when it affects fish migration in India and Pakistan bringing negative impact's on mating seasons ? I call this ignorance and its just a political game that has nothing to do with civilians gaining anything. The future is bleak for both countries. It's sad how little thinking we put in when it comes to sustainability.

Bilawal Sep 27, 2016 04:18pm

@FAZ there is only Indian waters there is nothing like Kashmiri or Ladakhi or Jammu waters in India.

M.Saeed Sep 27, 2016 04:18pm

@Sandip , but sinister minds read amazing things everywhere, any where!

Shehzad Sep 27, 2016 04:21pm

Officially Pakistan has not said anything and most of the Indians are jumping the gun.

Nothing would change on the ground. Modi is whipping up a frenzy and these issues will eventually die down.

Politics 101. India or Pakistan cannot afford a war much less a battle.

Cool down and work towards alleviating poverty. GDP and per capita mean little when majority of the population are below the poverty line.

M. Siddique Sep 27, 2016 04:20pm

If Modi's India ever try to stop water to Pakistan, then Pakistan has the right to release the water on its own from the sources on its own.

flipflop Sep 27, 2016 04:20pm

@Sandip harness for what ? You do understand the implications to building these dams right ? Changing water course would heavily impact fish migration and mating. It will also impact surrounding wildlife which depends on the river flow and not to mention the fresh river dolphins. While you support this idea merely out of selfish reasons with little thought put into it. Both sides need to mature

Dilip Sep 27, 2016 04:23pm

surprisingly, we are talking of "legal issues" here

kbg Sep 27, 2016 04:25pm

As per treaty 20 % water is allotted to India & 80% to Pakistan.At first instant India only want to utilize it's 20% share without violating the treaty.If it is not enough for J & K brothers then only question arised to revoke the treaty.

AZAAD Sep 27, 2016 04:26pm

@Mahmood See the Map, brother - minimal impact on India. Do not get carried away with an exaggerated sense of power!!

Khwarezmi Sep 27, 2016 04:27pm

Problem with India is that it does not respect international law like the case with Kashmir and I would not be surprised of the Indians went ahead with their plans and under the cover of IWT actually brake all aspect of the treaty.

M.Saeed Sep 27, 2016 04:30pm

It should be reminded that, Indus Water Treaty resulted in Indus Waters Replacement Plan, which was executed under the World Bank funding to which India was the largest contributor of funds. Mangla dam and all the Link Canals were part of the plan. Idea was to store at Mangle, enough 'irrigation water' lost in rivers Ravi, Sutluj and Beas to India and transfer it through Link Canals to all the irrigation head-works on those three rivers, so that there was no loss of water for irrigation. Those three rivers were to get flood release water only, under an agreed arrangement of prior information.

Merchant Sep 27, 2016 04:29pm

@suprises being 7th economy does not give India any right to flout regional/international laws. By the way rich does always mean great. A country is great by the behaviour of its nation and at present Indian nation is behaving like lawbreakers!

Farhan Sep 27, 2016 04:36pm

India can stop water and by the time courts decide we will have disastrous effect ruining our farmers and people.

Nomi Sep 27, 2016 04:37pm

What India seems to be forgetting that the Indus itself originates in China.

John Sep 27, 2016 04:47pm

@SHAHID MAHMOOD china rejected international tribunal's decision and people of pakistan supported china and now you are saying we will go to ICJ so ? what you expect us

Sikandar Sep 27, 2016 04:53pm

China has the Capacity to Run Brahmaputra river Dry in No Time.

diwakar Sep 27, 2016 04:58pm

@Sehan .So what? If it results in more votes it is fully deserved.

M.Saeed Sep 27, 2016 05:03pm

@Mandy : Size does not matter. Every country is a global player in its own right. Look at Israel, a tiny country of just 8 million people!

Vectra Sep 27, 2016 05:14pm

@Sikandar In that case not only India but Bangladesh as well China will have problems which in turn will make Chinese cargo and other ships in Indian Ocean insecure from hostile India and Bangladesh.

Amar Sep 27, 2016 05:23pm

Best move from India since many years.

Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad Sep 27, 2016 05:25pm

Almost all the enlightened, educated, mature, enduring and excelling readers and writers of this great DAWN forum know very well that the Indus water treaty signed by the two countries in the 1960s can't be unilaterally and eccentrically revoked as suggested by the Modi administration in New Delhi

Timeto stopthis Sep 27, 2016 05:36pm

@Truth prevails Good point.

zf Sep 27, 2016 05:58pm

@suprises: India blames Pakistan for "terrorism" in IoK, while supporting and funding terrorism in Pakistan (TTP), and now starting water terrorism by issuing threats. What a pity!

ozzy Sep 27, 2016 06:01pm

@Salam Namaste wgat with khulbhusjans?, pot calling kettle black

Khurram Sep 27, 2016 05:58pm

Where is the Shimla Agreement? Since Pakistan is not adhering to it though it signed it in 1971, India is talking like this about Indus Water Treaty ...

Najaf Sep 27, 2016 06:31pm

Cheap tactics,

Sachin Sep 27, 2016 06:36pm

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad - India will never revoke Indus Treaty. India will just use the right amount of share as per the treaty. Even majority Kashmiris are with Delhi on Indus water because they want to build lakes and reservoirs for their own use.

Ahmed bin Babar Sep 27, 2016 06:43pm

@Khurram Shimla was a bilateral agreement while the Indus basin treaty is a multilateral one with the world bank as its guarantor. You indian must do homework before sending your comments...

Paul Sep 27, 2016 06:51pm

@John: Well said.

R S Chakravarti Sep 27, 2016 06:49pm

@Aj As I said earlier, let them have the water they are getting but abrogate the treaty. That would be the best solution. Do you think China would have ever entered into any such treaty?

krishna Sep 27, 2016 06:52pm

@Khurram Pak hasn't given MFN to India for many years now. So India should also reply in same coin.. Pak must accept hand of peace from India side on time.. Its 3 years for MFN pending in Pak i feel.

Truth Sep 27, 2016 06:54pm

@Mahmood Pakistan is also flying through Indian airspace to reach to southern countries like Australia or Sri Lanka or even to Bangladesh.

R S Chakravarti Sep 27, 2016 06:55pm

@flipflop Maybe you are unaware of run-of-the-river power projects which don't need much storage.

Ahsan Gul Sep 27, 2016 07:00pm

PML-N and current government: Israel and some other African countries have devised irrigation alternatives and are producing abundant crops. Send your employees to those countries to research and learning purposes. I know most government employees want to go to USA and uk. Be pro active and start to implement and educating farmers now before it is too late. India will curtail your water supplies in future take it from an expatriate. Do you guys want me to work for you government free of cost?

Hari Sep 27, 2016 07:07pm

Also, this is a treaty that is 60 years old and outdated. In these 60 years, the water requirements of both countries might have changed. Time for revision of treaty

The Right Left Sep 27, 2016 07:12pm

Clearly India wants to use water as weapon of war to threaten its neighbors into submission. The whole idea that a country owns water that flows through rivers under its borders is preposterous ! How about the wind that blows over your skies, or the light that shines down on you ? Has India created them ? No country has the right to hold natural resources that flow throw it.
Karma you should know is a real prickly lady.

Manoj Kumar Sep 27, 2016 07:26pm

Discussion in Indian government is to optimize the usage of the water within the domain of the treaty itself not to unilaterally revoke the treaty.

Truth Sep 27, 2016 07:29pm

when pak not follow Simla agreement, why should India value other treaties?

jay Sep 27, 2016 07:38pm

@Khwarezmi and How about simla agreement

Myview Sep 27, 2016 07:39pm

The original treaty is based on goodwill gesture

zzeb Sep 27, 2016 07:45pm

Interesting, Pakistan does not want to follow Shimla agreement, but wants India to follow Indus treaty

OMG Sep 27, 2016 08:41pm

Isn't trade with Afghanistan is the right of India. Why Pakistan is obscuring that.

Payal Verma Sep 27, 2016 08:48pm

@John absolutely john we agree with you!

Iqbal Sep 27, 2016 09:09pm

It cant be revoked, but if india stops address redressal meetings... what can anybody do...

Prateik Sep 27, 2016 09:29pm

Indus water should be divided 50-50.

techscribe Sep 27, 2016 09:39pm

@austin luke furtado It's possible to build canals and divert the flow of waters from the rivers to parched places like Rajasthan and Gujarat in India. India is well within her rights to consider that.

techscribe Sep 27, 2016 09:46pm

@Mahmood I doubt most Indian airliners fly over Pakistani airspace. It's mostly British Airways, Lufthansa etc. who do. So it doesn't really matter.

Optimistic Pakistani Sep 27, 2016 09:46pm

@ramesh such delusions you are not US. Try breaching the international treaty and you will know it. China will be looking into this as on the other side your big bro China can stop water.

techscribe Sep 27, 2016 09:49pm

@Merchant That goes for Pakistan too. Stop proxy wars. If you guys keep saying it's your right to do so any move that forces you to retract is worth it. Modi has chosen to wage his war in a different way.

ZuZu Sep 27, 2016 09:48pm

No treaty is written on the stone. Any treaty can be revoked. It is totally depend between two countries. In this case, India does not want to honor the treaty, the recipient country can not force the other country. Period.

Arun-KS Sep 27, 2016 10:07pm

By taking unilateral decision on the treaty, India will lose only credibility, nothing else. If China does so with Brahamputra, Bangladesh will be hurt the most. But, even 20% of treaty-water has not being used by India as a good will gesture to Pakistan. We do not need any such goodwill gesture now. And if China can disobey verdict on South China sea, India is also capable to do so.

a Sep 27, 2016 10:37pm

Brahmputra is hardly a river India worries about. The only nation which should worry about it is Bangladesh. Assam and other NE states have enough small rivers to take care of their water needs.

Also Brahmaputra is a massive river. Its impossible for China to full divert or stop its flow into India.

Cool Monk Sep 27, 2016 10:44pm

Indus river system provides for 95% of water in Pakistan, and covers 65% of its land area. At this point, 80.52% of the water goes to Pakistan and India keeps 19.48% only, even though these rivers originate in India. The distribution of water shows India's generosity, that Pakistan and most Pakistanis don't even understand (let alone appreciate). Within the ambit of the CURRENT treaty itself India can store 3.6 million acre feet of water and build dams. The bottom-line, India does not have to revoke the treaty to pressure on Pakistan. It can do so within the treaty.

Secondly, if India were to take more drastic step of revoking the treaty itself, no one will interfere (China has yet to abide by the SCS ruling by the ICJ). If India diverts the water, Pakistan will be on its knees. If and when India decides to revoke the treaty, it is guaranteed the World Bank will not interfere.

Crimean Observer Sep 27, 2016 10:57pm

If India undertakes to revise the treaty, she would be opening an Pandora's box at the time of her own choosing. Hopefully, this is in the heat of the passion, so that she will ultimately play her card wildly. If she chooses to retract, it has set a blemish on her intentions and displayed to the rest of the world that she intends to cheat her weaker neighbors, including a weaker neighbor that is a nuclear power. There is no hope for the rest of the non-nuclear neighbors. India should learn a thing from Russia, how Russia solved the issue of Crimean Peninsula in an admirably fair and decent manner by holding a Plebiscite within around a few weeks.

Yuvaraj Sep 27, 2016 11:09pm

When North Korea survives after many UN sanctions. On Indian point , it will be minimal.

say what... Sep 27, 2016 11:15pm

@SHAHID MAHMOOD - the same as china got to do with our entry into NSG.

Shamanth Sep 27, 2016 11:30pm

@Sehan what election ?

kevin Sep 27, 2016 11:41pm

@the right wrong O.K any way we are ready. Carry on............

A Shah Sep 27, 2016 11:44pm

Modi is an absolute genius. Time to make Pakistan sweat.

A Shah Sep 27, 2016 11:46pm

India needs to follow China in the same way they rejected UNs resolution on the South China Sea. India needs to copy China.

A Shah Sep 27, 2016 11:48pm

Pakistan should write a letter to the UN.

A shah Sep 28, 2016 12:52am

There is no chance of breaking the treaty, India is just going to be using what it is entitled to.

Dev Sep 28, 2016 01:03am

Mr. Jethmalani says otherwise. India has been to large hearted. I think it is high time that Pakistani politcal junta start sweating.

Ravikumar Sep 28, 2016 02:30am

Oh yeah! Keep talking about it! Indus Treaty is the best option to exercise immediately! Pakistan wants to hurt India to help Chinas objective of destabilising India through Pak;

Umreekan_Sundi Sep 28, 2016 02:33am

@John There is no treaty on South China sea Einstein

Sab Se Pehle Pakistan Sep 28, 2016 02:50am

India will stop international water supply to Pakistan and you think Pakistan along with United Nations and its allies will keep quite about it. I mean such childish statement from India. I am laughing my heart out. Ok do it. We dare you. This is Pakistan my dear not some helpless people you can threat. Pakistan Zindabad.

Andy L Sep 28, 2016 04:44am

@ANT Well said.

Andy L Sep 28, 2016 05:18am

@javed Well said, to the point

Malik Sep 28, 2016 06:34am

Who is going to stop India

lordofthering Sep 28, 2016 07:05am

As a Part of Mr. Modi development agenda India should divert water to needy area to harvest more crop which can be beneficial to farmers.

Indus Sep 28, 2016 08:25am

@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad You will see.

Thinker Sep 28, 2016 08:43am

Pakistan should not have any problem with this, after all it is our Kashmir brothers who will be using this water