Father and toddler killed in Indian-held Kashmir
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SRINAGAR: Gunmen have shot and killed a 3-year-old boy and his father in Indian-held Kashmir, police said on Saturday.
Police Inspector-General Syed Javaid Mujtaba Gillani blamed alleged militants fighting against Indian rule for the killings late Friday.
Gunmen first threw a grenade, and when that didn't explode they sprayed bullets at Bashir Ahmed, himself a former militant, outside his home as he was carrying his son, said a police officer, speaking on customary condition of anonymity.
The attack took place in northern Sagipora village in Indian-held Kashmir's Sopore region. Ahmed died on the spot, while his son died at a hospital on Saturday.
Sopore has seen a recent spate of similar attacks on civilians and former militants, with rebel groups and government troops blaming each other.
Also read: Gun battle kills four in India-held Kashmir
Meanwhile, villagers on Saturday discovered the bullet-riddled body of a militant in an orchard in Indian Kashmir's Tangmarg area. Troops and anti-India separatists blamed each other for the killing.
On Monday, the bullet-riddled bodies of three local men bearing torture marks were found in the region, leading to days of protests and clashes between Kashmiris and government forces.
Top separatist leader Syed Ali Geelani has condemned the killings and called for an independent probe. He also asked people to observe a shutdown on Sunday to protest the killings.
Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan, with the rivals each claiming it in its entirety.
Most people in India's portion mistrust Indian rule, and more than 68,000 people have died in a militant uprising that started in 1989 and a subsequent Indian military crackdown.
Several rebel groups have battled hundreds of thousands of Indian forces deployed in the region for independence or a merger with Pakistan in a conflict that has killed tens of thousands mostly civilians. Violence has declined steadily in the region in the last decade.
But armed encounters between rebels and troops have increased in recent weeks and last week four suspected rebels and a soldier were killed during a night-long battle.
The armed rebellion has largely been suppressed, and most public resistance is expressed in street protests.
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Sep 19, 2015 06:36pm
This is what cross border terrorism achieves. It needs be defeated at any cost
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Sep 19, 2015 06:37pm
Please leave the kashmiris alone
Let them leave pecefully in india
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Sep 19, 2015 06:42pm
they kill toddlers now.
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Sep 19, 2015 06:46pm
Please stop killing innocent Kashmiries..
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Sep 19, 2015 06:57pm
@Trv "peacefully" in India? ....we would be happy to give up on the Kashmir issue if that was possible
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Sep 19, 2015 07:01pm
Police says the Guy Killed was a "militant" that explains who killed him.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:05pm
Apparently it seems he has been killed on suspicion of deceiving his former comrades and double crossing. Or may be an act of Indian Intelligence for the same charges and subsequently to blame the freedom fighters. Personally, I believe that freedom fighters don't kill children but Indian Agencies do so.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:06pm
@Sanjay innocent toddlers or Kashmiris
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Sep 19, 2015 07:12pm
@Javad janjua Indian agencies are trying to win the hearts of Kashmiris why would they do such acts like killing small innocent childrens
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Sep 19, 2015 07:12pm
@Sr Cross border? What border? This is between oppressed Indian occupied Kashmiris and Indians. Maybe you mean this is what oppression achieves?
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Sep 19, 2015 07:12pm
Kashmir is a political struggle between India and Pakistan, both India and Pakistan want to pull(win the hearts of) Kashmiris to their side and both are using all the tricks in their bag.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:14pm
Kashmir is an integral part of India.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:18pm
@Javad janjua
They have education food shelter job
Please allow them to live with their kids with most happiness
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Sep 19, 2015 07:24pm
@TRV they have job , education , food and shelter but they dont have freedom .
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Sep 19, 2015 07:33pm
@Human its common to live peacefully here in india except kashmir because very few creating that disturbance...!! even there is no disturbance in jammu...!! only its taking place in which you are mentioning as india held kashmir..!!
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Sep 19, 2015 07:36pm
Stooping to Israeli levels now? I wonder when will we respond instead of lodging "strong protests".
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Sep 19, 2015 07:46pm
@d.rajendran Pakistan got half of your integeral part and will get test of it aswell.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:48pm
Indians are always with the kasmiri brothers and sisters. The muslims in India are proud of their country and its democracy. They wanted to live in a develop and powerful india.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:48pm
Killing children, Gujarat being played out in Kashmir.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:50pm
@Javad janjua;
Killing of a toddler is a tell tale sign of Indian involvement, now that the modi of Gujarat is ruling India.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:52pm
Both countries have to forget rivalries and focus on eliminating elements that damage peace and once peace and development is achieved in both countries , borders can be made irrelevant ,not until then.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:56pm
@Indian Mulsim Because they have been doing this since 1989. Indians have killed countless Kashmiri children.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:57pm
Former militants should be provided more protection and good jobs, this will encourage people to give up militancy , which they take up for lure of money and help them to bring them to mainstream, comprehensive data should be collected about people of Kashmir their jobs and their background and any people found to be anti state should be dealt accordingly , village committees should be set up to monitor activity of strangers in the area and vigilance should be maintained always.
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Sep 19, 2015 07:58pm
What are kids doing there standing? Looks like Palestine.
Why are they not in school?
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Sep 19, 2015 07:58pm
@Indian Mulsim;
'Indian agencies are trying to win the hearts of Kashmiris why would they do such acts like killing small innocent children'
They are not trying to win anybody's hearts and minds,
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Sep 19, 2015 07:58pm
@Rani Maybe Indian Muslims are proud of India but Kashmiris are not and never will be Indians. If you ever leave India and place a Kashmiri in front of any one on the Planet, no one will call him an Indian, Kashmiris look, speak, dress, and behave nothing like Indians.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:03pm
No solution. India and Pakistan will have to agree on status quo in Kashmir and move on with improving their citizens lives
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Sep 19, 2015 08:04pm
@Trv;
' Please allow them to live with their kids with most happiness'
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Sep 19, 2015 08:04pm
Any Indian brave enough to come out and speak on behalf of oppressed Kashmiris? Any human rights champion willing to offer any support to innocent people of Kashmir against the Brutality of Indian Army and Police?
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Sep 19, 2015 08:05pm
@Rani It's not about You. It's about Kashmiris and they don't want to live with India. Remove the oppressive forces and give them right of self determination.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:07pm
@d.rajendran Kashmir is of Kashmiris. It's not a real estate that you can stake a claim at. Remove the oppressive forces and allow Kashmiris to decide what they want. They are not your slaves.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:07pm
@Javad janjua Politics at play. They are much maligned already and do not expect to gain anything from such actions.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:09pm
@Trv Slaves also have job, food, shelter and education. That's what India has confined them to, a status of slave or Real Estate. They are not your slave, remove the oppressive forces and give them right of self determination.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:13pm
Do you think we kashmiris are living peacefully in india? We are living in extreme fear and in a place of mental physical torture.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:17pm
Under Indian rule , Kashmiris is not safe , i am not sure why pakistan despite claiming to suffer with kashmiris is keeping mum, we should immediately grant asylum to all kashmiris and settle them in azad kashmir and GB ,once kashmir is liberated we can send them back , but until then Pakistan should save as many kashmiris as it can, they cannot be left to die there until kashmir is free, if India can take hindus ,sikhs of Pakistan , why cant we take kashmiris who are citizens of pakistan.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:21pm
@Rana the guy was a militant. Now he is in mainstream. Probably he would be one among millions of Kashmiris who voted in last J&K assembly election. No who would be behind this?
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Sep 19, 2015 08:31pm
We Kashmiris know exactly who did it but we can't do anything except wait for another toddler to die. As long as Indian troops are there, we will have to face the bullets.
Viva LA Resistance
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Sep 19, 2015 08:39pm
Please stop this mindless killing of innocents
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Sep 19, 2015 08:47pm
Really sad whether it happens in India or Pakistan.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:56pm
@Valar Morghulis we are greatful to have Pakistan. I am glad our elders decided to stand with Quaid-E-Azam and have a free land. It may not be perfect now but we can expect that as we have a lot of enemies surrounding us. We are sure, we will rise and be triumphant. Love Pakistan and want a same freedom for Kashmir.
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Sep 19, 2015 08:58pm
@d.rajendran : Hyderabad Duccan was an integral part of Pakistan that the Nizam of Hyderabad (now Telangana)had named "South Pakistan"!
Junagarh and Manavadar were even part of Pakistan till
1949 due to the allegiance with Pakistan by the Nawabs, when the two states were handed over by Pakistan to India on public demand of 80% Hindu population.
See, who honors the rules of principle.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:11pm
Kasmir will always remain an integral part of india.People of indian kasmir are more educated and prosper
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Sep 19, 2015 09:14pm
We have lost decades trying to get kashmir by using all means , but now is time to let go and concentrate on pakistan ,if we do not then we will lose pakistan too, time to let kashmiris live normal life and stop all interference and violence and get on with our lives , we cannot waste money, mind and future of pakistan on kashmir anymore.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:16pm
In J&K so many militants lay down Guns and joined in the mainstream. Government should ensure proper protection for these people. Sad to see even 3 year old child is not spared.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:27pm
@M.Saeed Please forget 1947 stories, now we are in 2015.You need to think how your family will have good life in the years ahead. Please focus on own life and be happy. Life is very short to waste time thinking about the past.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:29pm
The silence here is deafening. Why so quiet? That poor person who died joined mainstream long time back which was not liked by some.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:32pm
@sana-1 Well said. It is very painful to see children getting killed in this militancy and proxy war. The people in J&K are far more prosperous and educated than their counter parts on the other side of the border. They should not be instigated or should not be used as pawns and should be allowed to lead a normal life. India is getting stronger and stronger economically and the gap between India and Pakistan is increasing on both GDP growth and militarily. Pakistan should focus on bringing its economy to double digit growth. We want a happy and progressive Pakistan as our neighbour.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:42pm
@Obviously Indian I always wonder Why Indians always become defenseless in the face of facts? Food, shelter, jobs are secondary issues and can never be taken as excuse for human rights violations and depriving right of self determination.
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Sep 19, 2015 09:52pm
@Prasannajit
Kashmir is a disputed territory. It is the paradise on earth which has been turned into slaughter house.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:09pm
@Jatt I completely disagree. I am a kashmiri and people often mistake me for Punjabi. A d Indians look different from North to south to north east to central India
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Sep 19, 2015 10:11pm
@sana-1 (smiling) for once I have to agree to your this sane and most reasonable comment from you.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:12pm
@sana-1 : You cannot be a Pakistani with this thinking.
If we leave Kashmiris alone, tomorrow you will talk about leaving Baluchistan alone for Iran, Khyber Pakhtun Khawa left alone for Afghanistan and Punjab left land-locked to get strangulated, leaving Sindh for Modi to celebrate his greater Sindh/Gujarat. Wonderful left alone patriotism !
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Sep 19, 2015 10:13pm
@el cid And do you think you will give equal status to us, Kashmiris, in Pakistan. Don't think so. So better you mind your business.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:13pm
@Rana
>Police says the Guy Killed was a "militant" that explains who killed him.
He WAS a militant; then he surrendered.
Now days he was running small business and living in peace with his family.
You may draw any conclusion that may satisfy your conspiracy theories; but can't change the truth!
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Sep 19, 2015 10:15pm
Since when did terrorists become REBELS?....They are just terrorists, similar to one who kill people in Pakistan.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:18pm
@Javad janjua really? What did they do in Peshawar?
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Sep 19, 2015 10:23pm
Dateline: Dawn, 16th jan., 2010:
"LAHORE, Jan 15 Nawab of Junagarh Muhammad Jehangir Khanji has said Pakistan is incomplete without Junagarh, Manawador and Kashmir".
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Sep 19, 2015 10:27pm
@Iztraab what is the basis?
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Sep 19, 2015 10:33pm
I have just watched an interview of Marshal Of The Air Force Sardar Arjan Singh, (1965 wartime Chief of IAF), now 96 year old, on Times Now and there was a reference to Kasmir and India Pakistan relations. His views, which surprisingly are the same as I have been holding, are very interesting. He says, not even one inch of land will be given by India, and the hostility between India and Pakistan will continue for a very long time. So better be ready to read many more such news on both sides of the border.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:35pm
That what happens when somebody cancel talk on terrorism !!
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Sep 19, 2015 10:45pm
@Javad janjua nice try to malign Indian army n it's people. Won't even care about a child's death to criticise India and its people. Well quite expected out of you guys.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:50pm
@Canada this may be surprising to you but we have been getting quite a good no. Of guests from our neighbour country, who do this mischievous thing in Kashmir just to claim that Kashmiris are doing this.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:52pm
@Changez_Khan - yes, the terrorist supported by your country do not leave even children.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:54pm
@Azi nice one.. U'll respond. Lol ..
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Sep 19, 2015 10:55pm
@Iztraab you beat Ellen de genres with your humour. :)
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Sep 19, 2015 10:58pm
@Mustafa I read it somewhere about a Christian couple who was killed by mob on the name of blasphemy in a brick kiln. I saw the pics of that couples little kids. Painful ... This story is just a starter ... If I start .. Am sure you guys will win even if compared to Gujarat.
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Sep 19, 2015 10:59pm
@Human
@Trv "peacefully" in India? ....we would be happy to give up on the Kashmir issue if that was possible
Who are you to give up or take up the Kashmir issue... Its up to the Kashmiri's and the Govt of India to decide...
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Sep 19, 2015 10:59pm
@el cid -please push your govt. to do so. Whoever want to go, we will pay their fare too. I am sure we don't have to pay too much and even your friend Gilani won't go.
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Sep 19, 2015 11:00pm
@Canada
@Sr Cross border? What border? This is between oppressed Indian occupied Kashmiris and Indians. Maybe you mean this is what oppression achieves?
This story sells only in Pakistan... Believe now you have too many stories of your own to sell as well, maybe China can fund them as well...
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Sep 19, 2015 11:01pm
@M.Saeed -please start reading history on non-partisan books. Your eyes will open.
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Sep 19, 2015 11:43pm
@Canada Insurgency in Kashmir has its roots not in Kashmir but in Pakistan. Were it not for Pakistan's foolhardiness, Kashmir wouldn't have become a lost paradise. It was Pakistan's design to radicalise the impressionable youth of Kashmir through the various separatist groups which themselves had only political gains in mind, not the wellbeing of the Kashmiri people. And when it was time to give the brainwashed young men a gun in their hand, once again it was Pakistan that stepped forward.
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Sep 19, 2015 11:52pm
It is interesting that Pakistan's media and establishment is making Kashmir a priority at a time when the country is under full scale attack from the Taliban, its sympathizers, its apologizers
It is like the plane is going down, 3 out of 4 engines on fire and yet the captain worrying about why the guy who ordered vegetarian food was served non-veg.
Lets get real guys. Lets focus on the main problem.
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Sep 20, 2015 01:21am
let the Kashmiris decide what they want...lets vote for democracy ,humanity and justice....atleast people living in pakistan and india who are educated should understand that decision of future of state of kashmir should be in hands of natives of state.first of all if India is sincere about winning hearts of Kashmiris ,,international media and amensty int should be allowed to go and report from kashmir.... which they wont allow for a place where most of the time during a year curfew is implemented .....
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Sep 20, 2015 01:39am
@sana-1 are you serious or was that a joke?
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Sep 20, 2015 04:31am
@M.Saeed remain happy whatever u got
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Sep 20, 2015 04:33am
@Rana
He was an ex militant. If militant surrender they are allowed lead a normal life.
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Sep 20, 2015 04:48am
they killed a 3 years old boy. Oh my god!!!
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Sep 20, 2015 04:50am
@Rana
He is not a militant , but FORMER militant !!!!
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Sep 20, 2015 07:52am
@Iztraab come on, keep dreaming.
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Sep 20, 2015 08:05am
@sana-1 well said future of younger generation cannot be sacrificed for a single issue like Kashmir. this also madness that for one issue previous generation and future generation fight for thousand year. IN stead both county should cooperate in the filed of medicine health education trade tourism and curve on expenses on armed forces on the LOC and should create the atmosphere where minimum forces required on the loc. who benefit from this cat fight between India and Pakistan answer is arms industries from America France china and Russia .
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Sep 20, 2015 08:58am
@Iztraab
Dream on !
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Sep 20, 2015 11:14am
@Iztraab dream on!
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Sep 20, 2015 11:19am
being a kashmiri I know the pain as a result of its disputed nature. every single killing is a burden upon both the countries .until Kashmir issue is resolved this will continue happen.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:12pm
@Ammar They have all the freedom they want. Some separatists just don't appreciate it because their income will get affected.
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Sep 20, 2015 12:23pm
@sana-1 You are a sane voice Sana. I hope people in the Pakistani military establishment and government think the same way.
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Sep 20, 2015 01:39pm
Warning to all militant supporters- stop supporting and see what happens
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Sep 22, 2015 08:56am
@sonny afridi Great comment from you for a change.
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