RAWALPINDI: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif's visit to China has opened new doors of cooperation between the two countries.
The army chief held important meetings with the Chinese leadership, Director General Inter-Services Public Relations Major General Asim Bajwa tweeted.
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Meng Jianzhu, member of Politburo — Communist Party's second highest council — termed China's relationship with Pakistan "beyond individuals" adding that "Pakistan's concern is China's concern".
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Chinese State Leader Yu Zhengsheng termed Pakistan as the "most reliable friend" and said just as Pakistan has always stood by China, Chinese government and its people will stand with Pakistan and help it in all respects.
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Foreign Minister of China, Wang Yi, said Pakistan is China's "irreplaceable all weather friend" and that both the countries are part of a community of shared destiny.
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General Raheel thanked the Chinese leadership for its support to Pakistan and said, "The world must understand the evolving environment ... greater international focus, coordination [is required] to logically conclude the fight [against] terrorism."
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COAS Raheel Sharif had met his counterpart Gen Qi Jianguo at the headquarters of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) on Sunday. Gen Sharif held extensive talks with General Qi during which views were exchanged on full range of regional security and defence-related issues.
They agreed to enhance long-term defence collaboration and strengthen security and counter-terrorism cooperation and intelligence sharing and training exchanges.
The army chief had also called on Vice Chairman of the Central Military Commission, Gen Fan Changlong on Sunday.
According to ISPR, Gen Fan described Pakistan and China as strategic cooperation partners and “iron brothers”.
Expressing solidarity with the people and the armed forces of Pakistan, Gen Fan had praised the success of Operation Zarb-i-Azb which he termed “decisive, bold and a hard blow for terrorists”.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:46pm
India should also look for better relations with China.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:46pm
Love to China and its people from Pakistan!!!...
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Jan 26, 2015 06:47pm
Instead of Bajwa tweets I would like to see DAWN complete article on it.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:47pm
Pakistan has got China as a friend...what else does it need....enjoy the friendship
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Jan 26, 2015 06:48pm
*Sigh of relief*
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Jan 26, 2015 06:49pm
Good cooperation between neighbours. Example for all countries in the region.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:51pm
@Sunil
And with Pakistan too.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:52pm
Waiting for my Indian friend's comments..........................
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Jan 26, 2015 06:53pm
Ind & us vs China & pak...China policy will be to stop India by supporting pak and U.S will try n stop China by making India challenge China.
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Jan 26, 2015 06:56pm
Hats off Gen Sharif
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Jan 26, 2015 06:56pm
We have to put our house in order otherwise we will lose this Chinese leverage in our international relationship...
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Jan 26, 2015 07:00pm
Eliminate terrorism. Great. How do we identify the terrorists?
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Jan 26, 2015 07:00pm
No China but only USA is only our fast friend which habitual of sidelining Pakistan by every yard and whose war is Pakistan fighting for over decade! Wake up Pakistan!
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Jan 26, 2015 07:01pm
Walk the talk please! Can we substantiate what deals were struck?
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Jan 26, 2015 07:04pm
That's nice to hear. What was achieved or agreed during the talks? Also, what's the purpose of the visit? How much was that purpose realized ?
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Jan 26, 2015 07:04pm
Where is the money from China?
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Jan 26, 2015 07:04pm
Would have been nice to have India and Pakistan friendship like this ----- beyond individuals --/
But unfortunately both countries politics is ---about individuals ---who spill hatred against each other to score points and get votes.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:05pm
Merge Pakistan in China, Better for "P" future .......
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Jan 26, 2015 07:07pm
@Abrar pakistan and india can be best friend's but America and the West will never let this happen just think China Russia india pakistan north Korea all on one side they will take the world over its the west making pakistan and india to not to get on with each other. .
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Jan 26, 2015 07:07pm
"National Security is too important a thing to be left to Generals" - Winston Churchill
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Jan 26, 2015 07:08pm
Long Live Pak-China friendship!
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Jan 26, 2015 07:09pm
we south Asians will always be divided by the powerful countries for their benefits and our lack of trust amongst us. indopak should be smart to exploit these relationships to their own advantages..
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Jan 26, 2015 07:10pm
I hope something good comes out of it for Pakistan !
All the best :)
Regards,
An Indian
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Jan 26, 2015 07:14pm
Its nothing a visit. General went there and nobody was interested. He met one or two lower level people and no deal , no vision,nothing... Just need to go there...
If u have phoned them they would have said same things.. Stop wasting taxpayers money..
Point is who is coming here..if u will go nobody will deny u to enter not even India
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Jan 26, 2015 07:17pm
:) good luck to you friendship, I hope China will help to resolve power, petrol, security issues.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:17pm
It is good that the sharper Shareef was in China at a time when Pakistan does not have too many friends ,he has the potential to increase solid long term cooperation with the power which is making both US and India extremely nervous.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:20pm
America hates China actually. but China is a lion
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Jan 26, 2015 07:26pm
Curious!! Why chief of army visits china, It should be politicians job, isn't?
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Jan 26, 2015 07:32pm
Pakistan needs a good Foreign Minister and a capable team to support and protect its interests in world affairs. It is a job that takes talent, understanding, focus and a lot of hard work. May I request the civilian government to share its burden and shoulder its responsibilities or let others run the affairs of this nation. My humble advice to Sharif Brothers...please relieve yourself from bus and food street projects...let someone in grade 18 take care of these so you can focus on bigger things this nation of 180 million needs.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:32pm
All the best wishes from India.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:34pm
@Sunil really? it seems your country India is bending backwards to be in American camp in order to corner China.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:37pm
@omni Lets start with Modi!
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Jan 26, 2015 07:39pm
why it is si important to tweet. since when army do these political coverage, only in Pakistan.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:42pm
So did they say anything other than calling us 'sweet friends'? Come on China, actions speak louder than words.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:42pm
The other reliable best friend is North Korea!
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Jan 26, 2015 07:44pm
Pak cheen dosti zina bad
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Jan 26, 2015 07:45pm
India must understand that its keenness to join America in this Asia pivot policy of containing China will have sever repercussions for it as it will find itself sandwiched between two hostile very powerful neighbors , Pakistan and China, who happen to be strategic partners as well. China lay claims to north western Indian states and up till now its soldiers now and then cross border Inside India to lay claims to the lands. However Chinese are not involved in stoking any insurgencies against Indian in those states yet. With India sole focus on Pakistan, its underbelly is severely exposed to China, if it wish to exploit. It wont be much of any issue for both China and Pakistan combined to bring India down on its knees and the Americans, well, they will do what they do best, a runner.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:48pm
Wrong Number
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Jan 26, 2015 07:49pm
China wants to own us, that's it. They are very mean. USA is actually equally mean. I wish our politicians weren't so corrupt. If we hadn't spent so much money on military and sponsoring terrorism, we'd be a world power today because we were initially growing faster than India, right after Independence.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:50pm
Also, if China claims to be our friend, they should have sent Fang Fenghui to meet COAS and not his deputy. No leader from govt met him either. These are all just empty statements. Our corrupt govt and military have caused us to lag behind others, specially India
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Jan 26, 2015 07:52pm
This heading is must for pakistani people to satisfied them on this day, President of China visit India and took interest to resolve all dispute and increase bilateral bussiness. He say that India and China has historical heritage and rule the world in 21 centuries.
Pakistani media and government keep their man in darkness of reality. Pakistan doesn't face outside terrorism this is his own creation which backfire.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:54pm
Pakistanis are so gullible, just read the comments. We like to get 'top positions' in academia but we are so shortsighted, not a sign of true intelligence.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:55pm
Nations have interest not friendship
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Jan 26, 2015 07:55pm
Pakistanis are fortunate to have a few friends left in the world. Make the best of it and see how everything need not end up in geo-political strategies or alliances against some regional adversaries. Good luck!
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Jan 26, 2015 07:55pm
I am glad the real power centre of Pakistan, Raheel Sharif, not the other Sharif (PM); is had deliberations with US, then UK, and now China...This will bring more clarity on Pak foreign policy for rest of the world.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:57pm
Surprisingly in their message to Indian leadership on the country's Republic Day Mr Xi Jinping conveyed that our nations should take our strategic and cooperative partnership to the NEXT LEVEL. These geo-politics are a million times more complex than internal politics. Though its good for the region if China does seriously IMPROVE its relations with India. however in any case we are going to develop at a rapid pace with or without China.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:57pm
Civilian govt being in ICU at the mercy of doctors in uniform few more foreign visits by him may not be a surprise.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:58pm
Hurray! One more brick has been placed on the wall of friendship with China.
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Jan 26, 2015 07:59pm
Smoke emanating from the eastern border...
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Jan 26, 2015 07:59pm
Friendship with China is good but we need to stand on our own feet and stop relying on others. In 60 and 70 our economy was best in asia including Chain. We need to achieve that again. if we have done it before then we can do it again
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Jan 26, 2015 08:00pm
@Abrar Expecting comments comparing travel of a COAS to China, with that of Obama to India? I am confident you can judge yourself...
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Jan 26, 2015 08:01pm
@Khalid Can just express hope that your words turn true some day...
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Jan 26, 2015 08:03pm
Why China need Pakistan more than anyone of its neighborhood it is because India not because it is in Pakistan interest . The day India and China become global business partner and starts co operating each other than where will be Pakistan ...nowhere
Fact before cold war America was using you after that China is using you ..
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Jan 26, 2015 08:04pm
Time has come when individual nations needs own production units for war equipments, pakistan can make many others as co partner for investment in R&D projects. Reliability on others or even close friends should not be encouraged more than sharing technology.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:08pm
Good pals now ... China, Pakistan, and North Korea.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:11pm
Hope China can help Pakistan to deal with it's terrorists
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Jan 26, 2015 08:13pm
My dear Pakistani friends, instead of becoming emotional, start thinking of what China wants in Pakistan and at what cost
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Jan 26, 2015 08:13pm
not a news in indian side.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:15pm
@Abrar My Friend do you really think it bothers Indians ?
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Jan 26, 2015 08:15pm
It is this same China which used to say similar things about India. And then 1962 happened.
Without any concrete deals, agreements etc., I will only believe the Chinese when words are put to action.
Hope some one or some country can help bring Pakistan out of the rut it is in now. But, to begin with, something is wrong with this picture which does not bode well for the future stability and growth of Pakistan......an army General having discussions with Chinese premier! Unless this picture is corrected, I am not very optimistic.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:17pm
While China remains our ally but we should be more careful in our dealing with any nation. China's aid to Pakistan is no aid but a loan so we, as a nation, should negotiate what is best for our country. Our political leadership is just buying time by borrowing at inflated rates of interest which eventually the nation will have to repay. So while freindship talks are good, more pragmatism is required when it comes to sealing business deals.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:18pm
We don't want the relation with China as Pakistan share with them !!!
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Jan 26, 2015 08:18pm
Pakistan and China are time-tested friends.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:25pm
Good news.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:29pm
Hats off to Gen. Raheel Sharif for his exemplary leadership.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:29pm
@Abrar no problem... not worried.. enjoy
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Jan 26, 2015 08:31pm
good luck china....lol
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Jan 26, 2015 08:32pm
Wait till the next attack happens in Xingkiang, for the true colour of this friendship to show.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:34pm
@Owais Contradiction wasn't it higher than mountain before
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Jan 26, 2015 08:37pm
No burka allowed.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:37pm
Best of luck for china pak friendship with good regard's
From an Indian
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Jan 26, 2015 08:43pm
This time, it is a different kind of Martial Law in Pakistan. The civilian government is in place, but the army chief is taking care of domestic and foreign affairs. In other words, the makers and breakers are both in action. The civilian government is destroying things, while military is trying to control over all.
It would be better if army takes over and installs a care-taker government to have new elections, without rigging. In any case, new government will be an improvement over the existing one.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:44pm
Was there any specific outcome, or was this a pilgrimage tour? Will either USA or China trust us with anything when we play both sides?
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Jan 26, 2015 08:45pm
@Symbolic u are ill informed.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:45pm
@Sam poor boy!!!!
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Jan 26, 2015 08:50pm
@Abrar Mr. Xi Jinping has offered to take Chinese engagement with India to next level in his republic day greetings.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:53pm
all friendships r based on personal interests.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:57pm
What came out of the visit? Except the term IRON brother nothing is said to have been gifted to Pakistan... Sweet words are free of cost, anyone can give them. The thing is what benefits can the Pakistani people expect to reap out of this SYMBOLIC visit. Same goes for the UK visit. Please report things of substance, we don't need the transcript of their conversation.
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Jan 26, 2015 08:58pm
@raspberry
US for aid and China for friendship.See how smart is china
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Jan 26, 2015 08:59pm
Carry on general
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Jan 26, 2015 09:01pm
Why he need to rush to China?
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Jan 26, 2015 09:03pm
Wish Pakistan a strong relationship with China.
However, I didn't like the heading of the article - "China says Pakistan 'most reliable friend', vows to 'help in all respects' ". Makes Pakistan sound needy.
Only a relationship based on mutual benefit, trade and development is likely to succeed. Hope China-Pakistan relationship goes that way.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:11pm
The cold war between the USA and USSR ended in 1989. In that war Pakistan sided with the USA and paid a heavy price (which it is still paying) for the West's victory. Today the stage is set for the emerging power on the block (China) versus the old super power (USA). Only this time USA is putting its money on India whilst Pakistan has historic ties to China. My advice to my Indian and Pakistani governments is simple: don't become a pawn in other people's games - eventually you will be sacrificed for the king! India and Pakistan should strengthen their bilateral relations then we wont need Chinese or American interference in our region.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:14pm
Okay
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Jan 26, 2015 09:15pm
@Kumar why we always at war? Let peace come over. It's ok to be a Hindu,Muslim,Sikh. Live and let other live too
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Jan 26, 2015 09:15pm
According to pew research only 3 out of 10 ppl see pakistan favourably.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:18pm
India US and China must come together to help Pakistan and get rid of terrorism. Strong and developed Pakistan is in interest of south Asia.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:19pm
Congrats. Pakistan.. Am sure China will invest more in your infrastructure.. and help Pakistani establishment in creating a stable and peaceful Pakistan.. All the best
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Jan 26, 2015 09:23pm
Let me ask my Chine friends - How much investment you have made in Pakistan? Put your money where your mouth is otherwise it's all show for the gallery.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:23pm
China - India trade volume 2012: $66.57 billion
China - Pakistan trade volume 2012: $12.4 billion
Most reliable friends Really!!!
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Jan 26, 2015 09:28pm
"vows to 'help in all respects'."
Such vague reassurances are not enough as we learnt in 1965 and 1971. China should be requested to clearly spell out the term 'all respects' lest we are left alone again.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:38pm
this visit is just for giving confidence to countrymen , nothing wrong in it
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Jan 26, 2015 09:39pm
You allowed Americans to abuse you, later it was Saudis and now it is the turn of Chinese. Great country with great vision, keep up the status quo of being abused with the only intention of maintaining status quo. Will you ever come out of this India centric obsession???
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Jan 26, 2015 09:41pm
Long live Pak-China friendship.
The indians won't be able to digest this news.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:44pm
We have nothing to fear except confusion. The twin visits of Obama and Raheel Sharif have cleared up a lot of confusion. Pakistan will win any race as long as we are not confused about which way to run.
Sabaq phir parh sadaqat ka adalat ka shujat ka.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:46pm
Who is calling shots? Military or civilian admin in Pakistan?
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Jan 26, 2015 09:46pm
What else can they say?
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Jan 26, 2015 09:48pm
Gen. Raheel (Prime Minister) in action. Timely visit for a strategic partnership.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:50pm
@Ahmed USA just come once to India and you will see hospitality
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Jan 26, 2015 09:51pm
@wake up No comparison with India. For Pakistan, any support is good and appreciated.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:52pm
In India the PM Modi talks to the US President Obama. Pakistan sends its COAS to China. That tells a lot, is it not?
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Jan 26, 2015 09:53pm
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad - Very thoughtful...Wow!
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Jan 26, 2015 09:53pm
@Pakistani If China is lion, then what is Pakistan? America does not hate China, then there would be no Wal-Mart, Target stores in US, all Chinese products, and no Star Bucks, McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Ford, GMC, would be operating in China. Its China bullying smaller countries
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Jan 26, 2015 09:55pm
@Harish Bansal Unfortunately, this is a reality. Good neighbors can influence the development, though.
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Jan 26, 2015 09:57pm
The timing of the news makes sense. Just to explain to one's own self, at least we have somebody to save ourself. In reality, nobody wants to harm Pakistan
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Jan 26, 2015 09:59pm
@Allaisa True. We are hopeful that someone in Pakistan (be it Army or a true leader) will get us out of the spell of traitors
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Jan 26, 2015 09:59pm
America is more trustworthy than china
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Jan 26, 2015 10:01pm
It will take Pakistan nowhere by dependency on one or the other nation /country.Pakistan must avoid putting all the eggs in one basket. Must put house in order, a civilian foreign minister should be running the foreign affairs instead of COAS
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Jan 26, 2015 10:01pm
We are hearing statement from politburo members and chinese generals and what not...but where is statement of chinese president or prime minister...thats what counts
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Jan 26, 2015 10:02pm
good statements, whats the use! we should be self reliant to get some respect. We still need 2billion AID form US to pay our bills. China can do that?
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Jan 26, 2015 10:03pm
We respect for China and all neighbor countries.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:04pm
India can change friends but not Neighbors.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:04pm
Good luck Pakistan. Your stablity is good for us too. May you prosper.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:14pm
i dont think that there is any possibility for china & Pak to come closer to india because the bone of contention between them are the border disputes (or simply the land disputes). untill india is not ready to solve disputes with neighbouring countries, there will be no cooporation.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:18pm
When crisis happens why Pakistan goes to US not China, though this friendship is very old. Even during Kargil crisis, Sharif went to US not China. China did not help Pakistan during Kargil war. Another thing, it is only Pakistani majors and civilian administration is visiting other countries. But, other countries Head of State and Military heads does not come to Pakistan. Also, I strongly believe that Civil administration should not allow Military heads to run foreign policy, military should confine to the country and only in exceptional cases military heads should travel and meet military counterparts. Military heads should never be allowed to meet the foreign civil admins, by travelling to other countries.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:23pm
@lalu pershad I love to see friendship and peace between both countries.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:25pm
It is funny to hear the same broken record when Obama visiting India. No connection? Does Pakistan need this patronizing message from China every few months?
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Jan 26, 2015 10:26pm
Unlike some China is an all weather friend of Pakistan. In moment of happiness & sorrows Great China has always stood with Pakistan. Its a heart to heart contact between the government & the peoples of the two countries.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:36pm
Friendship based on which philosophy?
Probably it is the balancing of power equation in this part of the world.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:37pm
China has been friend of Pakistan since 1947. China is the ONLY country Pakistan should rely on and not to trust the rest of the other countries, they just use Pakistan for their own interest.
THANK YOU CHINA.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:37pm
@Amjad Wyne wow this was the best comment so far, to the point. NS is busy doing a chief minister's job. A country of 180 million is too important, and needs strong leadership, very strong leadership. NS is not fit for this task
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Jan 26, 2015 10:45pm
@Taimoor please note that every geopolitical relationship are based on country's own interests. If you have purchase power to buy their products than they will show their interest. They will not give you anything for free. Pakistan doesn't have money to buy even petrol. So forget about having good relations with any countries. By the way Indo-china trade is more than $60 billion so, China cannot effort to give more importance to Pakista at any terms.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:46pm
We are proud of our friendship with China, the true friendship and not marriage of convenience like US.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:47pm
there r no constant friends and foes
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Jan 26, 2015 10:52pm
@Sunil India already have better relations with China.
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Jan 26, 2015 10:54pm
@Ahmed Saeed yes with pakistan too but pakistan should also do the same.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:05pm
@Krana Good Observation! Really, Relationship with China is higher than a Himalayan mountain.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:11pm
How much China is going to invest in Pakistan?
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Jan 26, 2015 11:12pm
well timed message delivered to both India and USA in particular as both were beaming and over joyous.... with over confidence.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:13pm
We can see what china has done to Pakistan over the years..
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Jan 26, 2015 11:17pm
@Abdulla Hussin In the recent peshawar incident i do not remember seeing a single news how chinese reacted to this event.You could see elaborate coverage on what India said and did and articles after articles from bollywood starts expressing their emotions. Pakistan and China are NOT natural friends.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:23pm
congrats pakees.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:33pm
May Allah help COAS to weed out terrorists from Pakistan.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:35pm
Now Raheel sareef has been elevated to the status of a leader ....Another military coup is in the offing.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:36pm
I may be jumping the gun here but Raheel Sharif is proving to be a General and a Statesman ..........I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Jan 26, 2015 11:43pm
Only country in the world..where Not PM or FM but Countries Army is leading the dialog with other nations..even though its Civilian Government in power. All good goes to Army all bad goes to Govt. WoW!!!
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Jan 26, 2015 11:44pm
Well go on then. We need aid, electricity, power, petrol, infrastructure, development, education, pretty much everything. Lots of hot air by our so called friends
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Jan 26, 2015 11:45pm
Congrats Pakistanis!
We have a successful General cum Statesman cum Diplomat working for the State of Pakistan!!!
Where are original guys govt hired to do this job???
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Jan 26, 2015 11:47pm
The dream of Pakistanis is that their country also becomes as prosperous as China. Unfortunately that cannot happen unless Pakistan too has leaders like the Chinese have. Maybe some day Pakistan would also be blessed with a sincere, honest and a hard working leadership
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Jan 27, 2015 12:15am
@Boom understand, China's support for Pakistan was from 1956 long before India became a nuisance and a bad boy of the region. Out association is becoming permanent. While India switched from Russia to US, Pakistan and China have remained loyal friends.
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Jan 27, 2015 12:23am
China is a historical friend and neighbor of India. If history has any lessons both countries can learn from it - be it cultural or glorious days of past, even before "Buddha"...
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Jan 27, 2015 12:27am
China is a not a trustable , they have their own agendas and focus
anything they do is their business Address
Pakistan should be independent without relying any sources
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Jan 27, 2015 12:33am
The present Pakistani Prime Minister is inept and totally incapable to govern Pakistan.
The government ,in national interest, must resign, and new elections be called.
I beliive Imran Khan and Pervaiz Musharaf can create a stable Pakistan and give her a fresh new start.
The responsibility lies with the people of Pakistan to bring about this change.
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Jan 27, 2015 12:38am
We should all be friends in Asia. People to people communication is better than politicians, but hate-filled nationalists always hijack these boards and give each other a bad impression of the other side.
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Jan 27, 2015 12:39am
@jiyala
They dont just call us friends. They're investing 43 billion dollars and jointly developing military hardware with us
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Jan 27, 2015 12:47am
Has everyone forgotten $20 billion Investment made to India , by China?
How many billions has china invested in Pakistan?
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Jan 27, 2015 12:52am
China offering strategic partnership with India during republic day message to PM Modi. Whole world wants strategic partnership with India. US, China, EU, Japan, Australia, Asean, Brazil etc. Etc. Russia is already strategic partnership with India. What is this Modi magic.
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Jan 27, 2015 12:54am
If only India and Pakistan would be friends with each other, both wouldn't have to go thousands of miles away making "friends" that don't speak out language, don't understand our culture and don't even look like us. We live right next to each other and yet are drifting millions of miles apart!
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Jan 27, 2015 01:12am
@Sunil Indian DNA points otherwise
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Jan 27, 2015 01:12am
@Ahmed USA well said
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Jan 27, 2015 01:16am
India celebrates democracy in Delhi . Pakistan shows off dictatorial fangs in Beijing.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:21am
@das who needs PM and ministers.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:22am
The Pakistan army chief visit was some what related to military operation against "The East Turkestan Islamic Movement (ETIM)", a terrorist organisation in China operating from North Waziristan.
Pakistan should be friend with India, there are so many aspects that both countries can relate to each other.
Pakistan and Indian leaderships should stop treating each other as enemies, stop spending billions on weapons of mass distruction, stop blaming and should work together for well being of millions of poor people in their countries.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:28am
@Abrar
Showcasing the growing warmth in China-India ties, China on Monday said the visit by US President Barack Obama to India will have little impact on bilateral ties, asserting that New Delhi also needs Beijing as a "crucial" partner.
Satisfied?
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Jan 27, 2015 01:30am
@Shakil Dahri Hats off for what. All army chiefs visit china and China says and does good things always for Pakistan. What is gen sharifs contribution . Can he sort out power crisis
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Jan 27, 2015 01:34am
Now u guys having fuel crisis! Will your friend China resuce pakistan?
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Jan 27, 2015 01:35am
@Taimoor India is already friends with another authoritarian country(Russia). It is better to diversify the portfolio...that is smart investment. China needs a democratic India more, so India should play it's cards at the right time. Being patient is the real "strategic asset" that will deliver long term strategic depth.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:42am
China is killing muslims in Xinjiang province and uighur province - but Pakistan is such a beggar country, they will say 'I Love You China, thank you for calling us your friend'
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Jan 27, 2015 01:43am
Dawn, it is not fair that you block comments that are not even dangerous or explicit in language, you did publish where there is praise for Pakistan and its policies, it obstructs freedom of expression and impede the knowledge transfer, how people are going to be educated if only Parses are showered but no criticism
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Jan 27, 2015 01:44am
@Taimoor When you get a chance look at the map of so called "South" Tibet. The very question of Arunachal Pradesh as Indian territory could raise question why Bhutan is not part of South China. To complicate matters, His holiness the Dalai Lama does not consider Arunachal Pradesh to be part of Tibet.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:48am
@Zak since 1956 how many people have in Pakistan have learned to speak Mandarin, acted in Chinese Movies, Married to Chinese people, played sports along with Chines, trained in China, Art share or literary festivals hosted in china for Urdu language, and please do share with us your great knowledge before you say anything about Indian History
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Jan 27, 2015 02:07am
India and China are in a process of designing themselves "disaster proof" from any possible World War, and both of them will surely survive. Pak has only been trying to dodge the bullet since last decade, but now a small top-level group in our Forces have finally realized that "its about time" to take some drastic measures,,,Based on my understanding of current International politics I think We are too late...:-(
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Jan 27, 2015 02:08am
@Ahmed USA Why no hatred towards China. No veils. no beard, no azaan, no fasting oops all weather friends I suppose so or who is it going to look after ourselves against big brother India.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:08am
Just as America meets with India, China reiterates its relationship with Pakistan in the region. Interesting!
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Jan 27, 2015 02:10am
Its good that China has promised to help Pakistan with the issues country is facing presently. However I would say that Pakistan does not need a friend but business partners, who Pakistan could share business interests, and which will help creating the strategic and friendly relationship............. And just so you know relationship between countries are not like marriage where one country can have only good relationship with only one country :-), learn from India. Try to have not good but normal relationship with as many countries as possible. And for your information, existential threat comes from home grown militants not from neighbors, which must be challenged with all the available resources.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:36am
@Kumar,
Your mentioned issues are self implicated by terrorism and the people of Pakistan have to resolve them. Similarly, your country had been helped by Communist Russia to deal with problems. Why the fuss about China-Pak cooperation?
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Jan 27, 2015 02:52am
That sounds like a jilted lover that was not invited for a party by her ex, inviting herself to another friends' house.
Other than making Pakistan look desperate and forcing China to say, "Don't worry. You're beautiful too." , what did this accomplish?
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Jan 27, 2015 03:42am
Good Some one is willing to trust Pakistan,
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Jan 27, 2015 03:49am
He goes to each and every country to have a pat on the back....
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Jan 27, 2015 03:53am
@Boom Yes, two moronic "religious" nations being manipulated by two bigger smarter truly secular nations....Goes to show how much intelligence exists in the ruling elites of the subcontinent....
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Jan 27, 2015 04:05am
Pakistan and India should have a decent relationship too. Why not? Don't need to go over the top and be brothers etc. Just have a friendly relationship. And why not? When you get Indians/Pakistanis out of south asia they are not that different. Both groups overachieve at least in US.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:07am
By going closer to China Pakistan will simply be tightening the wage-slavery rope around the necks of lower class Indians.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:14am
I wonder what Ian Fleming would have to say about a thrilling novel called From China With Love?
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Jan 27, 2015 04:20am
@Jawad Whether we realize it or not its all got everything to do with weather!
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Jan 27, 2015 04:31am
@ali Well this Shareef is certainly more physically fit (nothing compared to Putin though) than the neckless nihari addict and by suggesting this I'm just trying to figure out what a Chinese child might be thinking.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:37am
and we can see how well Pakistan is doing under china friendship.. with friend like china who need an enemy..
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Jan 27, 2015 04:41am
@Ahsan Ali What you mean is referred to in modern
ideological terms as a dictatorship of the proletariat and don't we all know what that has invariably meant?
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Jan 27, 2015 04:43am
Please remember that beggars have no friends.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:44am
@A shah Water water everywhere not a drop to drink.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:46am
@Abrar china has a philosophical line for every country and occasion just like fortune cookies.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:49am
@Parvez the only other one was Charles DeGaulle and you might want to look at his autobiography to figure out what he has to say about the French.
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Jan 27, 2015 04:52am
"irreplaceable all weather friend" is a new and very reassuring term.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:02am
For those who say US does not like China - US does several times bigger ttrade with China than it does with India. Those who say China does not like India or vice versa, look at the trade and talk. All are just partnering with each other for mutual benefits and there is no animosity between them.
It is like all big heroes of bollywood are pally with each other but the fans fighting on who is bigger and better.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:17am
@Taimoor
Yes Taimoor just like Pakistan and China brought India to knees in the Kargil war of 1999, or the Siachin war of 1984, or the 1971 Bangladesh war, or the 1965 war, we can go on and on!
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Jan 27, 2015 05:18am
@Ahmed USA Wow! RS is on China vacation now.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:27am
@OM "not a news in indian side"
Is this really a news? Like majority of the world, we do not really find it credible when a army general is making statements on foreign policy and strategic relations. Rather than jumping, look at the facts and see if anything concrete came out of your army general's visit. He did not meet any single top level politician to have really discussed and agreed to anything. However, I would be jumping as well if I saw a ray of light in my house filled with darkness.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:36am
This seems like a desperate attempt by Pakistan to get some "China-Pak friendship" headlines to counter the "US-India" headlines in their own media. The fact that these "we support Pakistan" quotes are from second rung Chinese leaders of little relevance, speak for itself.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:37am
@Taimoor oh really, try once
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Jan 27, 2015 05:38am
Nothing can be further from the truth.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:40am
Why everyone is talking about no China aid or limited investment in Pakistan? We do not need anything from China except their true friendship. Money can come and go but true friends are there for life.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:47am
So what if General Raheel Sharif did not meet the Chinese political leadership, true friends can communicate with their spirits. Chinese president was there in spirit guiding the talks.
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Jan 27, 2015 05:49am
China is India's largest trading partner. So, these relationships are not a zero sum game i.e. good relations between India & China are not a detriment to Pakistan. Same applies to relationships with US. the current age is of trade and not of war. china is US's largest trading partner.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:00am
@anony : this is not news. No pacts were signed & nothing new of any importance happened. This "news" was to make people like u happy & i see tht u r.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:05am
I hope the general also politely told China to remove the ban on Burqua and allow its muslim citizens to practice their religion peacefully ;-)
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Jan 27, 2015 06:19am
I see nothing new in this. Indians know this since decades. China is friend of Pakistan, thanks to India. The only basis for this friendship is India.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:30am
When General Shareef met Hohn Kerry in the U.S., he was wearing a Suit with pin with half flags of the U.S. and Pakistan. Here in the photo, General Shareef is wearing his military dress while Meng Zianzhu is wearing a business suit. Also no pin with half flag of China. Cannot afford to annoy China.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:32am
Friendship is always better than war, I'm glad that Pakistan is friends with China. The problem with China is that definition of "friendship" is different from what an average Pakistani perceives it to be. To Chinese, it is a tool to achieve their objective through peaceful means. To Pakistanis it is something larger than life for which you can easily give away what you have with happiness. To remind you, China has never given you anything for free, but have charged you immensely in terms of money, real estate and sovereignty. They will never come and fight with you, maybe they will sell their Chinese fighters planes on a monthly instalment plan. Please be wary of these hardware, the Chinese cars are the biggest failure in the world, their planes will surely take you 6 feet under.
An average Indian and Pakistani citizen are not enemy, I hope that the Islamic terrorism from Pakistan stops so that the relationship start getting better.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:33am
The biggest issue is China does not give money. Which Pakistan need.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:37am
@Iqbal The maximum damage about Pakisthan is done by Museraff's book where he wrote how he was fooling USA playing double gamne and extracting money from them. You Dont expect USA to support you after that book
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Jan 27, 2015 06:41am
@Taimoor lololol. Look who is talking the poster boy of american camp through 80 and 90s pakistan
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Jan 27, 2015 06:47am
@Owais Than why extra brick
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Jan 27, 2015 06:52am
Finally Pakistan got a trust worthy friend and that too Chinese. I was in china two months ago travelling to my destination via Kunming and believe me or not no one speaks English and respect each other food habits and traditions. They just serve pork in EVERYTHING, even on pickles. I just felt that I'm on a new planet. To be a friend first you need to know each others language. That country is not a friend to no one.
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Jan 27, 2015 07:08am
Any particular reason why none of China's top leaders could spare any time for Pakistan's most important leader?
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Jan 27, 2015 07:57am
@Zak
-- yes, that is why the Chinese President visited India for 3 days, and skipped paskitan! :)
-- yes, that is why China and India co-developed the Asia Development Bank, and pakistan too was invited, but wait, pakistan had no money!! :)
- yes, that is why a pakistani leader or chief or minister visits China every week whether invited or not!! :)
-- Zak, tell me the last time Chinese President actually hosted a pakistani leader on a bilateral visit?! -- not even the Chinese Prime Minister hosted sharif or coas for a bilateral meeting!! :) :)
But you know all this -- but you prefer living in your basement and living in your desperate fantasies! - so sad!
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Jan 27, 2015 08:02am
@Taimoor for the moment it's your nation buddy which is in shambles, grow up, China India trade is way over 100 billion dollars, same with USA India trade, while you plan and fantasize your encircling theories, we will surely eradicate hunger and poverty, I hope pakistan does something constructive too
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Jan 27, 2015 08:11am
@Kumar I hope America resolves yours.
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Jan 27, 2015 08:27am
Make sure the brick does not fall on your head!! After all products made in China is of cheap quality..
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Jan 27, 2015 08:29am
@Iqbal "Where is the money from China?"
That is not what a sovereign country asks...
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Jan 27, 2015 08:30am
@no mans land "They just serve pork in EVERYTHING, even on pickles. I just felt that I'm on a new planet. To be a friend first you need to know each others language. That country is not a friend to no one"
Sometimes we all have to make certain sacrifices in friendship. If eating pork makes China happy, I would not have an issue with eating pork.
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Jan 27, 2015 08:40am
China has banned Muslim Hijab. But we should keep aside these petty stuffs and work for friendship with China.
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Jan 27, 2015 08:42am
Good for Pakistan..
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Jan 27, 2015 08:45am
@Naveen;
" Even during Kargil crisis, Sharif went to US not China. China did not help Pakistan during Kargil war."
In Kargil it was India that needed help and got it because we had a businessman in office and not a leader. No wonder you guys love Nawaz Sharif.
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Jan 27, 2015 09:05am
Whatever China does and says Pakistan needs to be careful. It has long history of betraying friendship. It has sour relationship with all its neighbors. Pakistan is enjoying special status only because of India. Enemy's enemy is a friend. So one has to understand this truth that the base of this friendship is very weak. any day it can go wrong, no matter what you believe or say. No one practice his religion openly in china, you cannot practice fast during ramzan. IN china there is no freedom . These are the things which makes china a dangerous country. Sooner or later you will realize this.
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Jan 27, 2015 09:20am
Its about time that Pakistan starts believing that it is an independent country and stop relying on what statements other countries make about it.
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Jan 27, 2015 09:38am
hope china will REMAIN sincere FRIEND. Balance of powerin the region is necessary for piece.
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Jan 27, 2015 09:42am
@Jawad This option of merger with China is not favour of Pakistan as basic ideologies are poles apart. Pakistan is well entrenched in religion but Chims does not have any importance for it. They may have mutually beneficial relations in economy and defence
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Jan 27, 2015 10:57am
@Boom perhaps you are,right but I guess regional countries should cooperate and help each other to eliminate poverty, terrorism and injustice rather relying in US or any other distant state. In fact trade and economical growth is way easier at regional level.
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Jan 27, 2015 01:56pm
@Boom :::Dont you see a major difference here...US is trying to counter china by empowering INDIA not by weapons but wealth n prosperity...China is trying to counter India by empowering and encouraging Pakistan with its terrorist policies and weapons...which sounds better....soch badlo...tumhara desh apne aap badlega...
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Jan 27, 2015 01:59pm
@no mans land Tried My Hand At Love and Friendship, All That Has Past and Gone, This Little Boy Is Now Moving On. Jimmy Cliff, The Harder They Come.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:08pm
@Black Sabbath What the Chinese are obviously trying to tell us diplomatically is that you all are insulting our intelligence by sending us a General and its very obvious that you could not do anything better at a time when that Chinese technological cooperation fighter plane is being inducted into the Pakistani Air Force fleet.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:28pm
I could not possibly be the only one to have personally
witnessed all the enormous volume of rain carrying winds that go perpetually from Pakistan to China via the Khunjerab Pass just to prevent South-Western China from being totally devoid of all rain.
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Jan 27, 2015 02:30pm
@saz open borders like in Europe are even easier.
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Jan 27, 2015 06:31pm
Was General also taken to insight?
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Jan 27, 2015 09:00pm
@Symbolic Already china has signed many contracts and have made deals with Pakistan 8n nearly every visit. This visit was about meeting his counterpart and discussing important issues and sharing secrets intelligence and even signing secret deals, etc...
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Jan 27, 2015 09:12pm
@sushil Terrorism in Pakistan is forign funded snd only atarted after 9/11 when Pakistan joined alliance to fight terrorists in Afghan. Pakistan Gov was to blame and innocents and economy are paying the heavy price. US has done very little to help. Thanks to Pakistan army which is making heavy gains and InshaAllah will wipe out terror.
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Jan 27, 2015 11:27pm
Why Pakistan is sending a military man for international diplomacy? What happened to Pakistani politicians?
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Jan 28, 2015 07:14am
just see the map of china before 65 yrs and existing and future regional map of china. it is upto people of pakistan to decide.
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Jan 28, 2015 07:59am
lol.. Two 'cannot be trusted' types getting together and praising each other.
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Jan 28, 2015 08:02am
Why is the army going to China? Doesn't Nawaz shariffs government have any power? why does it always look like pakistan is on war footing with the army involved in everything?
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Jan 28, 2015 08:33am
Saying Pakistan is a great friend is fine. But what has China promised in terms of economic cooperation? Does the Pakistani government have a blueprint for development?
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Jan 28, 2015 08:37am
@Taimoor India never bends backwards for anyone. USA needs us as much as we need them. They are discussing bilateral trade of 500 billion dollars
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Jan 28, 2015 08:39am
@Taimoor We have always been surrounded by two hostile neighbours, much before we had good relations with the US. Except during the Chinese aggression in 1962, we have pretty much managed both our neighbours and we will continue to do so
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Jan 28, 2015 10:06am
The question is China Pakistan's most reliable friend?
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Jan 28, 2015 10:21am
@Sunil everyone should look for better relations with China, the new rising super power.
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Jan 28, 2015 10:37am
As an Indian we welcome this friendship.We don't need any efforts to knee down china ..By its nature.,Both will spoiled.
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Jan 28, 2015 11:49am
Then why chinese leadership did not visit pakistan but visited India??? Its high time pak realises that not china not US, its best to make friends with INDIA and as partners then see it will work wonders for both the countries.
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Jan 28, 2015 01:49pm
Where else he can go:)
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Jan 28, 2015 01:57pm
why is the army chief visiting China and getting certificates and not the PM?
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Jan 28, 2015 03:15pm
India is ok with Pak-China relationship.
Even India is also interested to have good relationship with China, and at the same time India building its military might to suppress chinse aggression if occurs.
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Jan 28, 2015 03:23pm
All tweets by Bajwa, none from the Chinese. All here say. Unfortunately COAS met nobody imporatnat in China
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Jan 28, 2015 03:41pm
See China says to their (PAKs) Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Raheel Sharif's and NOT to the PM NS. This news itself no credibility. Is it happens in India ? NO..................
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Jan 28, 2015 04:53pm
@Sanjay Guha yes the Gawadar port, linked to Central Asia, China- for goods and oil pipeline-projected revenues for Pakistan $ 56 bn, projected trade surplus $ 44 bn
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Jan 28, 2015 11:35pm
A friend in need is a friend indeed.
Pakistan needs help with the development of its Gas Fields, building dams and immediate help to address energy shortages.
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Jan 29, 2015 01:56am
This is great! All the best for a strong and sustainable relationship between China and Pakistan...
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Jan 29, 2015 09:03am
will Pakistan have guts to tell china to stop atrocities against ughihur mulsims ?
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Jan 29, 2015 10:09am
China is the greatest friend of the US. And of the rest of the developed world.
Pakistan should forge a good relationship with as many countries as possible...thats the ticket to prosperity. We Indians want propserous Pakistan so we all can enjoy the fruits of developmen. Peace is natural outcome of prossperity and freedom.
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Jan 29, 2015 04:31pm
@Khalid my dear friend IS just want to raise a question. do you really think that its just because of the policy of western country that we have fractured relationship and if it is so then what do you want to say about the wisdom of our leaders? Do they are mere the puppet of their western master?
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Jan 29, 2015 10:07pm
@Mustafa
So why did you go running to the UNITED STATES ?
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Jan 29, 2015 11:41pm
@Popat True. Not just foreign policy but also the true picture of Pakistani politics. This shows who is ruling Pakistan, a democratic government or Army.
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