22 August, 2014 / Shawwal 25, 1435

Supporters and critics weigh in on operation

Updated Jun 15, 2014 08:47pm
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ISLAMABAD. Moments after Pakistan announced the launch of a comprehensive operation in North Waziristan, political parties and analysts weighed in on the repercussions of the move.


Money for operation: PTI MNA


“Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) was not aware of this. We were not informed that a wide scale operation will be launched in North Waziristan,” PTI MNA Dr Arif Alvi said, adding that this is a ‘money for operation’ exchange.

He added that his party has always maintained that an operation of this scale will result in a large influx of refugees in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where his party forms government. “The government should have told us so we could have prepared for this.”

He criticised the Pakistan Muslim League Nawaz (PML-N) for what he said was a move to appease the US government which has linked aid to an operation of this nature.

“The PML-N government did not tell the public and the opposition why the talks failed. We do not know about the dimension of this operation.”

He also said that groups such as the Haqqani network have no war with Pakistan and are being isolated without reason. “Does the government want to burn all cards for the incoming government in Afghanistan?” He suggested that there should be a surgical and precise operation as a large scale strike would result in the death of innocents.


Refugees will be facilitated - Defence Minister


Defence Minister Khawaja Asif, while talking to a news channel, said the nation stands by its army. “The decision was taken after the strategy of dialogue failed. The operation will continue until it reaches its logical conclusion. Any group that challenges Pakistan’s constitution, attacks civilians, soldiers, and government installations and uses Pakistani territory to plan terrorist attacks will be targeted,” he said.

He added that IDPs will be facilitated by the federal as well as KP governments. “We will try to ensure that the displaced do not have to stay away from their homes for too long.”


What has KP done - Analyst


Defence analyst Rasul Baksh Rais asked what the KP government has done to stop terrosists from entering their province. “These terrorists kill civilians in cities. What should be done with terrorists them then?” he said in response to Dr Arif Alvi.


The time for talks is over – retd general


Retired Major General Jamshed Ayaz lauded the move as a “very good decision”.

“It came slightly late. But better late than never. Pakistan has suffered a big loss – and Pakistan comes first. They have made a correct decision to launch this. The time for talks is over.”


Commendable decision: MQM


Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Senator Babr Ghauri speaking to a news channel said, “This is a commendable decision by the government. We have been repeatedly telling the current government that instead of engaging the terrorists in dialogue, government should act against these elements. Karachi has a number of terrorists and it might suffer from a blow back; this should be tackled so Karachi does not have to suffer on account of this.”


Should have told Plmt: ANP


Awami National Party member Zahid Khan,”We also held a dialogue previously (during our govt) but that did not produce effective results. We wanted peace and we were okay if that came through dialogue but unfortunately that could not happen. This time, knowing from our experience, we had cautioned the government that dialogue approach would not work. Government should have taken the parliament into confidence before launching the operation but it didn't.”

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Syed Zubair Shah
Jun 15, 2014 08:31pm

Good Luck and all the very best.Its do or die situation for Pakstan.We as a nation support you. People of Pakistan need to be very alert in their respective positions whether businessmen or doing other jobs as its the enemy whithin with supporters around us as well.

Muhammad
Jun 15, 2014 08:37pm

PTI is going too far in supporting Taliban. Get your head out of sand!!! Mr Alvi.

abdulaziz
Jun 15, 2014 08:39pm

So PTI is worried about the Haqqani network. My gosh, are they serious? Aren't educated Pakistanis noticing this madness on PTIs part?

Shahid
Jun 15, 2014 08:45pm

@Muhammad PTI does not support Taliban and never did. It is about isolating them and then going after those who refuse to bow down or go for a endless full fledge operation.

shah
Jun 15, 2014 08:49pm

These critics are either supporters of terrorists, or folks sitting in govt who believe that "dialogue" will keep them in the Taliban's good books as long as they are in govt. Neither of them are thinking about protecting Pakistani people.

salman
Jun 15, 2014 08:50pm

if i run into imran khan or alvi or any of these pti ppl, i will surely want to ask them---- WHO ARE YOU? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED?

haven't you displeased and insulted your supporters enough by a massive defeat, stop acting like you are the executive. you are NOT.

pls. focus on doing something positive.

Shahpur
Jun 15, 2014 08:51pm

PTI is a misguided group and so is their leader.

Zia
Jun 15, 2014 09:00pm

PTI and its boss are a bunch ignorant polito techniqes. They should now draw strategy how to deal with after effects. They should now stand behind the army like all peace lo ing people of Pakistan

Obaid
Jun 15, 2014 09:04pm

The entire nation endorses this action yet one party as always continues with its apologist mantra

Naokhaiz Afaqui
Jun 15, 2014 09:06pm

Condolences to PTI...

Khan
Jun 15, 2014 09:08pm

The true intentions of this would be clear in about week or ten days.Let's wait and see.

Ahmer
Jun 15, 2014 09:13pm

What is wrong with PTI? Sure, the government should have announced the operation through loud speakers and such in order to give chance to all the militants that they could flee. Seriously PTI.. what is wrong with you guys now?

Mahmood Chaudhry
Jun 15, 2014 09:32pm

Its sad to see PTI still not leaving Taliban mantra. They have done nothing in KPK either on law & order or on development. They are still worried of the consequences. Their budget is 70% on salaries which means just take money and lull. They have proved to be simply incapable of realizing the gravity of the situation from the day one. I am highly skeptic about IK's understanding of the situation, his decision making as well his courage to take any tough stance. He just wastes time on petty issues and trying to play in hands of agencies by upsetting the present government. After nearly 10 years, the country has started its journey to development and IK seems to be the biggest hurdle in that.

Viquar Syed
Jun 15, 2014 09:37pm

We support our braves. Its time to clean our house. Enough is enough !!

Ayaz
Jun 15, 2014 09:43pm

@abdulaziz PTI has contradictory policies ... The party wants to play games with Afghan lives on both sides of the border.

NHM
Jun 15, 2014 09:48pm

Arif alvi, you should instead be asking the armed forces to carry out a simultaneous bombardment of Karachi's Waziristan (Sohrab goth)

Khawar Butt
Jun 15, 2014 09:57pm

Only time will tell the effectiveness of this operation. If successful, another one should be launched in Karachi against extortionists & money launderers.

Mirza
Jun 15, 2014 09:59pm

PTI walas should shut its mouth. Don't know why we sent Alvi to the Parliament.

sky
Jun 15, 2014 10:10pm

Just doing for money to make a prosperous punjab

Abid
Jun 15, 2014 10:14pm

PTI trying to cash on steps taken by military, In fact its giving more hearts to terrorist to launch more attacks in Pakistan, trying to take out lot from Pak army. Whatever it is, time is to stand with military, in this situation.

Rahela
Jun 15, 2014 10:22pm

There we go again! I wish he had equal sympathy with the our soldiers and police that are blown up for no reason at all.

Guest64
Jun 15, 2014 10:31pm

Belated ( for well over 2+ years ) and after giving lots of the terrorists escape route towards the Afghan side ( as reported in the news thousands have already left for safer places close to Afghan borders and within Afghanistan ! ) YET its Never too late . I hope the Boys will not distinguish between Good and Bad talibans and that these Frankenstein Monsters will all be killed at the very hands who have nourished them so far . Good Luck to the Boys and Nice killings of these beasts . Exterminate them not just let them leave to safer places , You Know them all inside out . Good Luck , at least Give the Nation for once a total victory in a war of survival

Mirza
Jun 15, 2014 10:31pm

PTI just playing politics now nothing else. fake people in PTI now.

imran ali
Jun 15, 2014 10:40pm

another set back for Imran Khan

Outside observer
Jun 15, 2014 10:58pm

“Does the government want to burn all cards for the incoming government in Afghanistan?” Does the PIT understand why Paistan is in the position it is in now?

Abid
Jun 15, 2014 11:03pm

@sky shame mentality...

Karachi Guy
Jun 15, 2014 11:05pm

People are lauding and praising the steps. While I believe a good number of them are people that are shortsighted. I do not know what kind of operation this is going to be. But if it is going to be a full fledged and 'indiscriminate' one, I am sorry to say but, Pakistan is entering into a fire play, which it is most likely to fail playing. George Santayana said really beautifully: "Those who cannot learn from History, are doomed to repeat it."

May Allah help those who follow the guidance.

nawaz
Jun 15, 2014 11:34pm

all those are against the operation they are sympathizers of these murders in the country. we must not care about them . GO out in the public and find what they want . Nothing good can happen in Pakistan if we do not finish these murderers for good . There cannot be any prosperity can come in Pakistan if we do not kill or kick them out. Also this way we will send message to the world that we can defend our motherland if any foreign hand will be involved

Vic
Jun 16, 2014 12:05am

Pakistan needs its own version of operation " Blue Star " but do they have anyone with the courage of Indira Gandhi & an enforcer like General Brar!

Neither the govt nor the military must announce the start of any major operation against the terrorists. The surprise factor should be the focus right from the begining to the end.

The military should close the escape routes into afghanistan & into KP. Uzebeks, chechens, arabs, africans, europeans---anyone not belonging to this area must be taken out & neutralized by the military.

Fahd Siddiqui
Jun 16, 2014 12:14am

“The decision was taken after the strategy of dialogue failed. The operation will continue until it reaches its logical conclusion. Any group that challenges Pakistan’s constitution, attacks civilians, soldiers, and government installations and uses Pakistani territory to plan terrorist attacks will be targeted,”

Well done. The nation stands behind you. Be prepared for a blowback. But we must make this sacrifice for the sake of Islam. There is no violence and killing of innocents in Islam. And those who are doing this need to be dealt with effectively. Go ahead Pakistan Army the nation is with you.

Osama Khan
Jun 16, 2014 12:50am

"Zarb-e-Azb": The strike of Prophet Mohammad's (PBUH) sword

Pakistani
Jun 16, 2014 02:42am

PTI's concerns are 100% correct. Don't believe in blindly what you see/listen through the media, and use your head.

muhammad
Jun 16, 2014 03:52am

For Allah's sake, get rid of these animals. They consider their own population as civilians and all the other people living in pakistan as infidels. Please clean our soil of this cancer once and for all.

masood (USA)
Jun 16, 2014 04:27am

Finally, it should be Zarb-e-karar, once for all

US Rathore
Jun 16, 2014 04:55am

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his party stood isolated. Political parties and army distanced themselves with peace talks. TTP left no room for manoeuvre. Generals advocating military action must shed their bravado and take lessons from all other military actions that have been launched in KP and FATA. Brute military power will only aggravate the issue. Which elected government and nationalist army bombards its own citizens? Counter-insurgency operations are not fought from fighter aircrafts and tanks. These operations need local support. How can you say that Karachi mastermind was killed in the air attack? It is a propaganda. Since you have opted for a military option, avoid collateral damage otherwise more militants will crop up. It is long haul.

A.H. Hashmi
Jun 16, 2014 05:21am

Those who destroy govt. property kill innocent people are terrorist although very late the operation should have been done much earlier. what is the use of state power if it cannot safe guard its own people. It is difficult to under stand few are still opposing it.

Sheikh Parviz
Jun 16, 2014 06:09am

Best wishes to the brave and noble Pakistani military. All our prayers for your to get rid of all the anti-state elements. There is no negotiation with anti-state elements and terrorist. Taliban is a cancer that will destroy Pakistan unless Pakistan and its people kill it first.

Shahid Khan
Jun 16, 2014 06:57am

Our soldiers! your blood will not go waste. Pakistani Nation will remember your sacrifice. These barbarians stand for nothing except VIOLENCE. We stand for reason, logic, society with certain forms of freedom and tolerance. Inshah Allah!!! our Pak army will be successful.

Yawar
Jun 16, 2014 08:06am

@Karachi Guy, you said "Pakistan is entering into a fire play, which it is most likely to fail playing. "Those who cannot learn from History, are doomed to repeat it."

You sound like one of the many Taliban apologists that are prolonging terrorism in Pakistan. Also, is Swat operation part of the "history" you are talking about?

Tariq K Sami
Jun 16, 2014 08:19am

Karachi Airport attack was the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back. No one can say that we did not give peace a chance and after 70000 deaths and Karachi Airport shutting down is like Pakistan shutting down. PTI will support the Army. What ever Mr Alvi said was because he did not take his medications. I hope the Mehsud's will stay out of this fight. Lets pray for all Pakistanis.

Ghalib
Jun 16, 2014 09:28am

And the educated people from Clifton area elected this Alvi, the people from his area should go and talk some sense into this guy.

No matter how much PTI supporters are going to deny it but PTI policies have become against the state of Pakistan, they should decide with whom they stand Pakistan or Taliban.

event horizon
Jun 16, 2014 09:48am

@abdulaziz Inshallah in the next election, educated and civilized people of Pakistan will teach PTI a lesson for consistently siding with terrorists.

event horizon
Jun 16, 2014 09:50am

@Mirza A mistake was made. Not to be repeated.

Samad Chaudhry
Jun 16, 2014 10:32am

Good Luck to Pakistani You can not negotiate to some one who is bent upon destroying Compromise is no answer Get rid if them Shut up Imran and Qadri and the likes of them Pakistan Zindabad

Farooq
Jun 16, 2014 11:39am

Is article is carefully crafted to justify the massive strike. A nation should stand behind their army. IT seems true in this case as well. Order to launch strike came from the top man, PM Sharif, as it should. The nation should pray and demand for two things: 1) collateral damage should be minimum (reporting should be transparent), 2) A bipartisan and unstinted commitment and support to the displaced, while reconstructing the devastated areas. Good Luck

A Rehman
Jun 16, 2014 11:44am

@Shahid During this IDEAL ISOLATION they are taking the lives of hundreds of Pakistanis and with Uzbeks in the driving seat, it is really high time. Why PTI and IK is not worried on massacre of innocent citizens? why you dont talk of collateral damage in terrorists activities across the country? Dont now divide the nation if you dont have anything better to speak.

sky
Jun 16, 2014 12:35pm

@Abid .....thank you but its reality bro....... such karwa hota hai na bhai..??

Freeman
Jun 16, 2014 12:41pm

@US Rathore "Which elected government and nationalist army bombards its own citizens?" All nationalist armies do that much earlier, if so called "own citizens kill tens of thousands of fellow country men.

PTI-Supporter-but-not-on-Terrorism-issue
Jun 16, 2014 12:43pm

@A Rehman Mr Rehman and Imran Khan, stop being naive. If you wanted to resolve this matter through dialogue, you should've negotiated some peaceful accord when you came in KPK. These terrorists do not hold anything dear.

It is WAR now, and WAR may not be a good thing because of lives being lost, but it was inevitable.

The more you drum the same mantra, the more supporters you will lose. Especially on this issue.

saleem
Jun 16, 2014 01:07pm

PTI not supporting tailban ,PTI is elected representitive of people of pakistan, govt should inform them before such a large scale of war start , there are always good and bad decision , history will tell us , just like Zia ul haq supported mujahden in Russian war to stay in power for 10 years and getting aids from the world, and now we are fighting with that mujahden, that was wrong decision and we are paying price for that.

Aslam
Jun 16, 2014 01:20pm

@abdulaziz The haqqani network is not fighting against Pakistan. After this attack they will.

Ghulam Mustafa
Jun 16, 2014 03:36pm

Ghulam Mustafa who says it was Nwaz Sharif who ordered operation, every body is mistaken, it was general himself who ordered it, and PM has to bow down infront of army chief if he wants his govt running.

Javed
Jun 16, 2014 03:56pm

plz read the word s of Alvi carefully...what u ppl call democracy then all parties should be taken into confidence and KPK is the province which will bear the IDP"s so please try to analyse things and donot criticise PTI with erong picking the words..If u donot like PTI just say bravely but y u ppl are manipulating the words................its a request

MN
Jun 16, 2014 04:02pm

Most of these militants are not Pakistani nationals. They are have enterd Pakistan illegally, and taken over Pakistani teritory. Pakistan armed forces have the resposiblity to remove these illegal people from Pakistani teritory.

Why is PTI worried about Haqqani group? This group is not helping Pakistan. They creating more problems for Pakistan.

lubna
Jun 17, 2014 01:47am

with the army history in mind,I fear for 90,000 prisnors and a new country

isfaq
Jun 17, 2014 07:54am

Stop using oil money as WTF(World Terrorism fund) instead use it for providing education/health /poverty alleviation of muslims in south asia and africa.