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Kaira lashes out at Hamid Gul, asks ISI to take notice

Published Nov 01, 2012 11:10am


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Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Qamar Zaman Kaira.—AFP File Photo)

ISLAMABAD: Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Qamar Zaman Kaira on Thursday lashed out at former chief of the Inter Service Intelligence (ISI) Gen (Retd) Hamid Gul, asking his ‘institution’ to take notice of his activities during his time as a serving general.

“If his office, his home, and his institution were used in the formation of the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad (IJI), then he is answerable to the nation,” said the minister.

“No one has the right to become the security adviser of the nation himself; this is the job of the state.”

Kaira’s comments come two days after the former ISI chief , in an interview with DawnNews, admitted responsibility for creating the IJI to allegedly prevent former prime minister Benazir Bhutto from coming into power through the 1990 polls.

The minister said the IJI was formed to steal the mandate of the people through ulterior motives by preventing the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) from winning the elections.

During the interview, the former ISI chief had also alleged that Pakistani politicians were crooks and that if they continued to tread the path they were on, the army would also continue to intervene in the state’s affairs.

Kaira said Gul had created problems for the nation in the past and should refrain from issuing such irresponsible statements, advising him to be careful in his choice of diction and tone.

Pakistan has had three bloodless military coups in its history and has been ruled by four military dictators, the last being former president Pervez Musharraf. The powerful army and its intelligence agency have been accused of interfering in national politics and election rigging.

In a landmark ruling on Oct 19, the Supreme Court ordered legal action against former intelligence chief Asad Durrani and former army chief Mirza Aslam Beg over allegations of bankrolling politicians to rig the 1990 election. The verdict was announced 16 years after retired air marshal Asghar Khan originally filed the case, accusing the ISI of doling out money to a group of politicians who joined together under the IJI banner to prevent the PPP from getting elected.

‘Judiciary should show restraint’

Pakistan’s courts also became the subject of criticism during Kaira’s press talk here Thursday as he accused the judiciary of interfering in political decisions and matters.

Responding to a question about Lahore High Court’s verdict on the Kalabagh dam, he said that only elected forums could make decisions on such issues.

The involvement of the judiciary in such matters should be avoided as it would not serve any purpose, said the information minister.

The judiciary should show restraint on issues of a political nature and as a nation we should also try not to drag it into political issues, he said.

On the matter of CNG prices, another case the Supreme Court is currently hearing, he said the issue was subjudice and he would not comment on it.

“On those matters which are subjudice, we should not hold debates or make comments,” said the minister.


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Arsalan Khalid Nov 01, 2012 01:29pm
Is not only the politicians, the Army is corrupt to max as well....DHAs, Askari banks, Fauji foundation is the largest company in pakistan which pays no tax, cement factories, etc. Since when does conducting business becomes an Army's prerogative. Shouldn't Army be focusing on developing capabilities to defeat non-state actors. Pakistani Army has failed miserably as an Army but has succeeded in business. What right Gul has to claim only politicians are corrupt?
mudassar Nov 01, 2012 12:18pm
i support Gen Gul. He is 100% right in his words as he always has been. Politicians like Kaira should never ever be trusted. They are crooks in disguise. Gul is right in saying that Pakistani politicians were crooks and that if they continued to tread the path they were on, the army would also continue to intervene in the state
Monarchian Nov 01, 2012 10:38pm
Those nations which are on top today, once gone through all these stages but they did learn their lessons, I hope all of us do learn our lessons and treat eachother @ national perspective than regional perspective. Its time for all of us to shun all those creepy practices of hatred that everyone holds for another. If we wont make us strong via unity then every outsider will undoubtedly meddle with our space of freedom. Wake Up people. Please share the message of brotherhood and stop acting as black sheep for our own country and for eachother.
Shabedeh Nov 01, 2012 12:03pm
Pure Democracy????????????
David M Nov 01, 2012 09:39pm
People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
Ahmad Nov 01, 2012 04:51pm
No you don't get the right information but biased propaganda from so called media. Malala is a case in point. Media is corrupt to the bone as well, just go and watch those leaked youtube videos.
Mujtaba Hussain Nov 01, 2012 01:06pm
First of all, its a fact that Army is so powerful that it can topple the government anytime it wants to. But keeping in view this statement I wonder that why Army's intervention in the past is so small. I conditionally support intervention of Army due to the reason that I see state itself as a biggest cosnpirator against the country. Picture is clear. Our rulers have foreign bank accounts, dual nationalities propertyand assets abroad as if they've come with a perfect backup and runaway plan.
Michael Malcolm Nov 01, 2012 02:21pm
Would said its not Pure it is Dirty Democracy.
Michael Malcolm Nov 01, 2012 02:18pm
What a joke about about Gen ( rtd) Gul using ISI office for creating IJI. Why Kaira is so upset when the President is also using his office for his party's activity. He may not be creating another party---who knows indirectly he is encouraging them. Desperation is PPP position today they will create and come up any and everything to befool the citizen---but no more. Wait and watch my words.
Sialkotia Nov 01, 2012 03:32pm
@Shabedeh He meant " polluted democracy ". Give him a break.
mohammad shafiq Nov 01, 2012 04:39pm
hamid gul should be prosecuted for high treason and executed
Vinod Nov 02, 2012 12:53am
Yeh raaz to koi raaz nahin Sab ahl-e-gulistan jaan gayee Har shakh pe ullu baithey hain Anjam-e-gulistan kya hoga?
Mani Nov 02, 2012 12:31am
regardless... if it is being done now or if it was done then... all guilty should be held accountable.
Aamir Nov 01, 2012 11:32am
Well, everyone has the right to speek especially when politicians are so corrupt and not delivering. But on the other had I would strongly condemn the interferrence of military into the democratic process. That time has gone when people use to live in dark, now media is so power full that we get the right information at the right time.
Haque Nov 02, 2012 12:59am
I saw photograph of Zardari presiding law and order situation in karachi. It looks like he is the head of the state as well as head of the government. How shameful for the Prime minister, Chief Minister, Home Minister and the governorand others.
ali Nov 01, 2012 05:15pm
The army intervenes because of pathetic performance and corrupt nature of the politicians, but they never learn the lesson and continue corrupt activities, although coup is not a solution, democracy is,provided the politicians are straight and not corrupt, unfortunately there are corrupt politicians ruling the country now and the chances of them being thrown out in the garbage bin are slim, the public it seem will vote them back into office barring a few changes here and there.
riaz khan Nov 02, 2012 05:36am
hamid gul was not sincere with our country
Mudassir Hussain Nov 01, 2012 11:38am
Now in 4 years or so of Pure Democracy, it should not be a difficult thing to comprehend that who is who!
Tariq Nadeem Nov 01, 2012 03:32pm
The entire nation is corrupt, why just blame the politicians, have you seen the palatial houses of Humanyun Akhtar and other rich sons of Generals?
Amjad Nov 01, 2012 01:46pm
I do not know much about "Hamid Gul" but I would agree with his statement that "all politicians are crooks"
Aurangzeb Nov 01, 2012 01:32pm
Pakistani people are sqeezed between corrupt Generals and more corrupt politicians. God bless Pakistan from both Generals and politicians.
Shah Nov 01, 2012 06:13pm
Pak army is great. I agreed with Gul. Without strong Pak army this country will not survive.
Kash Nov 01, 2012 02:00pm
Why doesn't the state prosecute Hamid Gul? Why is Kaira asking his institution to take action?
imran karim Nov 01, 2012 05:52pm
Vote for Imran Khan. Problem solved.
Tariq Nadeem Nov 01, 2012 03:30pm
The President is a politician, Hamid Gul was a soldier, he had no business in running the politics of the country, can you people not realize the damage he has done to both? The Army and politics....
abdul narayan Nov 01, 2012 04:04pm
Politicians and the generals are corrupt.The army wants to be answerable to no one.Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.And the army is the absolute power in pakistan.Can the moderator stand up to the power of the generals.In India nobody would think twice before publishing something like this.
Khawar Nov 01, 2012 12:22pm
Mr. Kaira, if you are the true representative of the people, you should have the courage to take notice yourself, instead of asking ISI.
Jalal Khan Nov 01, 2012 04:07pm
Well, Hamid Gul had no constitutional rights to interfere in state's affairs; even if Zardari use president house for political activities that does not give rights to army to participate in political activities. Vote them out if you do not agree with any political agendas.
Iqbal Nov 01, 2012 02:35pm
Pakistan army is indeed great. It has conquered Pakistan several times. Hamid Gul should do Pakistan and the world a favour and go fight alongside his Taliban buddies and achieve martydom, hopefully in a drone attack.
Malick Nov 01, 2012 07:52pm
General (R) Hamid Gull offered himself for any investigation/trial. He should be trialed in Court, he should be listen completely and Court should give decision. Gull should not be arrested and insulted. All other generals be trialed and clear debit. Politicians those who took money should be trialed and discredit. Why you all are against trial. Kaira is right to burst on Gull as he is founder and alive today. First Gull, than Beg, Durrani and many other generals and all politicians. Election mean a great loss to nation if politicians remain unscreened. First dry clean the politicians and than election. All party leaders should go under trial voluntarily.
Sy3d Nov 01, 2012 08:00pm
I think Kaira needs to his job instead of running his mouth everywhere. This what happens when you put incompetent people in the Govt. who has no idea what to say and when to say it.
Hadi Nov 01, 2012 05:32pm
Everyone in Pak should take 101 course of his/her own responsibilities rather than attempting to do others job. Shame on ISI, shame on army, shame on judiciary and shame on politicians and corrupt govt official. I wish someone genuine leader emerge and clean the crooks from system.
Pro truth Nov 01, 2012 01:14pm
You know what I dont think anybody could steal PPP mendate! they have die hard fans and dont change, if they are unhappy they just dont vote. IJI may be just mere election alliance of all political parties against PPP. So whoever facilitated or co operated in any illegal acts should be brought to justice! that includes champions like Nawaz and co Kaira and all political leaders failed to deliver - corrupt to the core and still demands Army should just watch them destroy the country! When we have sincere politicians who has leadership and courage, Army will not be able to topple them as people will with them. First grow that leadership in you along with high moral values! It will never work If you going to ruin the country and keep asking hey Army should just watch! I was discussing with my Turkish friend, I told him in last 20 odd years Pakistan almost in suicide plunge in managing things, be it economy or running a country smoothly. He said its exactly the opposite in Turkey, they have progressed so much in last 15-20 years. The difference is they got some fine political leadership now and Army is at bay now. We dont have any leadership but family cartels! Simply disgusted at the Pakistan conditions! completing a 5 years of democracy is not an achievment, what have you deliver to Pakistani people in all these years?
Muhammad Nov 01, 2012 05:47pm
you are corrupt too
Junaid Nov 01, 2012 05:18pm
How is Pakistani army great? great in the battle field or great in deposing governments? please elaborate.
mudassar Nov 02, 2012 09:20am
Junaid, It's great in all aspects. They are professional soldiers and defenders of Pakistan. Wherever they see a risk, they ensure that it is removed swiftly. This could be a politician or a mole. It is almost always a joint decision of the core commanders as to what is best in the interests of Pakistan. Despite being in British politics myself, I fully support the role of Pakistan Army in ensuring that Pakistan stays in safe hands, by hook or by crook!
NASAH (USA) Nov 01, 2012 07:10pm
It is time to punish Mr. Hamid Gul for all his illegalities and misadventures under the garb of the self-anointed ISI patriot.
Rao Nov 02, 2012 04:51am
If politicians are crooks, then you have a chance to replace them after 5 years, but if Pak Army / ISI personnel are crooks then you have to bear them till they retire. Hamid Gul himself is the biggest crook.
MJK Nov 01, 2012 01:16pm
Mr. Kaira, stop drum beating about democracy , talk out the governance that your party under AAZ has provided. Executive branch of the government is totally dysfunctional,working on the whims of presidency,forcing judiciary to take suo moto action.
Feroze Khan Nov 01, 2012 05:24pm
Country is on the threshold of becoming a 'failed state', lack of credible leadership, constant bickering among ruling & opposition parties is forcing SC to take suo moto actions, presidency occupied by a dynastic politician whose popularity graph is touching the base line. It is a miracle that country still survives.Mr. Kaira,tell us something we don't know.
krishnan Nov 02, 2012 12:11am
And of course the Army is Pak pure !!!
JAvaid Ahmed Nov 02, 2012 01:40am
Is Mr. Kaira joking/ Shouldn't the PPP led government be taking action? Since his government is weak and does not have the guts he is wants the army to take action. If it were not for weak politicians the army could never have taken over. It is time that politicians take the reigns in their hands and that can only be done if their hands are clean. As regards the Judiciary taking a pro-active role, again the failure of the political parties because they cannot deal with tricky situations. No one is perfect and we should not expect miracles but let nation see some signs for betterment, that I am sure will give hope to the downtrodden. Instead of blaming others, Kaira and his ilk ought to do something other then gathering wealth, indulging in nepotism, cronyism and self praise.
mudassar Nov 02, 2012 09:13am
Raj, Let me say again, Pakistan Army is great! Someone like me would (and always have) prefer a military take over rather than a crippled democracy of this nature. A pak army general can be trusted (despite his weakness), but a puppy politician can never be trusted.The Pakistani nation sleep peacefully because they know very well that they are safe. Just look at the recent incidents like Giyari sector. You need to know what happened in 1965 when Pak Army screwed the Indians. You need to know that they are fighting two wars, one internal and the other one is external. Just google Pak Air force and check out our ace pilots. You will find the answer to your questions.
Ahmad Nov 01, 2012 04:43pm
Couldn't be phrased any better. Leaders reflect nation and I would blame people too. Let the nature take its due course until good educated leaders become available.
mel Nov 01, 2012 07:31pm
& don't forget the ignorant Mullahs
Raj Nov 01, 2012 05:22pm
I don't understand why you are taking pride of Pak Army. They never won single battle forget any war. They are champion of bulldozing your own politician and people. How can you back them they much greater organized crooks then politician I believe. You can punish politician in next election but can;t punish generals after retirements. I am surprised by the comments that still people of Pakistan are puting army ahead of politician. Pak people are not for democracy and viceversa is also true. Ameen.
Feroze Nov 01, 2012 09:39pm
Kaira and the lot are corrupt, dishonest and have no love for the country. Like Michael says that Zardari has been using the Presidency for all his corrupt and party activities for the last so many years. This government kills more people on the streets every day then the Army take overs have ever killed...none. Kaira look at yourself in the mirror and tell us what you see......... a dishonest person?
MMS Nov 01, 2012 06:38pm
Could someone please explain how Hamid Gul can justify what he did. It is similar to a murderer justifying murder by saying "I killed him because he was corrupt and I will do it again until the corruption is gone." He is arrogant, corrupt to the extreme, and believes he is above the law. He is a perfect example of corruption within the elite officer corp. From Ayub Khan to Mussharraf we have seen the corrution come in different colours. This leads to my two final questions. Is there any one including the CJ who can tackle this issue or, do we let the corruption in the army dictate the types of civilian governments that will be insiled in the future.