Indian BSF hands over boy’s body to Rangers
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KASUR: The body of a boy who was shot dead after entering Indian territory by mistake was handed over to Rangers by the Indian Border Security Force (BSF) on Monday.
Seventeen-year-old Ijaz, son of Riaz, resident of Bhikhiwind, Kasur sector, was grazing cattle near the border on Sunday when the incident took place.
According to neighbours, one of his buffaloes had started running towards the Indian side. Ijaz ran after it and crossed over into India by mistake. He was shot dead by BSF personnel on the spot.
His family went to report the issue to the Rangers and asked them to hold talks with the Indian authorities to hand the body back. The Rangers immediately lodged a protest with the BSF, who at a biannual meeting in Lahore last week had pledged the safe return of any inadvertent border crosser and avoid unwarranted shooting.
The BSF handed the body over to the Rangers on Monday after an autopsy. Ganda Singh police gave the body to the family of the deceased after completing the legal formalities.
Ijaz’s mother Fatima Bibi said her son had recently passed his matriculation exam securing 729 marks out of 1100. Talking about the incident, she said that her son’s body was not moved from where he was shot for hours. She added that when the family went to retrieve it, BSF personnel did not give them permission to do so and beat them.
According to Fatima Bibi, they informed the Rangers who helped get the body back a day later.
Published in Dawn, August 2nd, 2016
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Aug 02, 2016 07:37am
So disappointed to read this story.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:06am
Why Pak rangers allowed the boy to graze animals in the sensitive area ? Is there no fence at the border in that area ?. As long as mistrust continue between both the countries such incidents are bound to happen in both sides of the borders.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:27am
@point of view well said. It is sad to hear the death of a brilliant boy. My condolences goes to his family. However what the rangers were doing when this boy graze animals in such a sensitive area. I can't blame BSF as cross border terrorism on the main issues India is facing.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:50am
A lesson must be taught to the BSF for breaking the mutual agreement and taking one precious life...
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Aug 02, 2016 09:57am
Very sad and unfortunate accident. BSF men were only doing their duty and following orders from the top to watch for any intruder. A 17 year old boy almost looks like a man. We Indians apologize to the mother of the boy and ask for her forgiveness.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:06am
The boy crosses all that fences by mistake?
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Aug 02, 2016 10:13am
@point of view Pakistan and India have such a big border that at some sides, the border is not completely sealed off.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:14am
Pakistan should change policy towards India and come to discussion table or else common people of both side will suffer
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Aug 02, 2016 10:15am
Very sad news. Is there not a warning shoot before actual fire? Unfortunate where we are going? Why we are not settle our disputes peacefully once for all times? Why we don't want to learn lesson from European countries as how they resolved the issues? Why we don't want to live peacefully? Why we don't want to review our history living together thousands of years. My condolence, sympathies are with the family who lost a young son without his fault.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:19am
So sad. What about Pak rangers? They could have stopped the boy on the Pakistani side.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:22am
@Ahmed bin Babar .Go ahead.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:23am
One has to wonder why the boy had to be shot dead and not just injured/captured?
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Aug 02, 2016 10:37am
Sad to hear about a young boy loosing his life so early..I have been to this border area..it has a peculiar feature...on Indian side the village is called hussainiwala where as on Pakistan side village is called Ganda Singh wala..Why don't our politicians and people on both sides just bury the hatchet and live a peaceful and prosperous life..After all we are sides of same coin
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Aug 02, 2016 10:39am
I red about this mistake many times.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:44am
People in the border should be warned that it is the most tense border in the world. Feel sad for the life lost but the security forces can't risk a thousand lives by sparing one.
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Aug 02, 2016 10:47am
@Ahmed bin Babar try it
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Aug 02, 2016 10:59am
@Ahmed bin Babar what lesson? The mistrust is so deep that they might have suspected a terrorist infiltration.....
However, if the story is true then very sorry for the loss of life..
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Aug 02, 2016 11:04am
Few places on earth are so heavily militarised like the Indo-Pak border.
If he was a bright lad, he ought to know better. Was a buffalo worth
his life.
Such sad circumstances for the families near the border following the
years long ceasefire.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:06am
He should have been arrested instead of being shot.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:18am
It is such a pity that an innocent boy lost his life.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:20am
@SAEED PK happy with such thoughts....
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Aug 02, 2016 11:21am
Do terrorists run across the border in broad daylight?
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Aug 02, 2016 11:24am
Surprised and disappointed to read some of the comments here. What did the BSF think this 17 year old lad was going to do?Blow up India in a second?No amount of 'mistrust' between the neighbors warrants such actions.Can the BSF not tell the difference between a terrorist and a teenage cattle farmer?And if they couldn't was it so hard to first capture the kid and interrogate him?
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Aug 02, 2016 11:32am
Very sad incident and loss of life. I hope there is no escalation and there is no further loss.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:38am
@Huzaifa Akhtar "He should have been arrested instead of being shot."
and what if he had blown up himself in the face of BSF people trying to capture him?
Remember this is the most sensitive border in the world, and with the issues around militancy and infiltration on this border, the BSF would operate under strict orders. I would hold the Rangers equally responsible for this incident for letting the boy cross over.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:40am
Really tragic and loathsome reaction from India.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:44am
@Pank India should change policy and come to talks on all issues.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:48am
Inhuman act by Indian forces, killing of one innocent person is like killing of all mankind.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:00pm
@SAEED PK I agree.Both countries should sit and talk to avoid such unfortunate deaths.My condolences to the boy's family.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:01pm
Very unfortunate!!!
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Aug 02, 2016 12:06pm
If he was a resident of Bhikhiwind, he would have been a Indian citizen, wouldn't he?
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Aug 02, 2016 12:06pm
@Ahmed bin Babar : Try it.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:11pm
@Ahmed bin Babar teaching lessons to each other only agravates the already trigger happies on both sides. It doesn't prevents the future similar situations. It's the hot heads like you on both sides that is the cause of this youngman's death. So calm down and think rationally i.e if you want to prevent further blood shed. Thank you.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:15pm
@zakir hussain , Janab very well said.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:23pm
@Red Planet then you are uneducated. This is not Local but international border with no fence.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:25pm
May God bless the poor kid departed soul may god gave both side's Brian they can thing millions time before they can killed innocents life
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Aug 02, 2016 12:26pm
@point of view agreed with u but lack off education
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Aug 02, 2016 12:30pm
@Pank India should change mindset, the world is focusing on India's atrocities.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:33pm
The BSF have let us all down. It is not difficult to know,a boy chasing a animal but to just kill.put guards on border with more humanity, regardless of religion.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:43pm
It isn't fair. It isn't right but it's life.
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Aug 02, 2016 12:45pm
@Rajesh excuse me what do you mean by "if the story is true"????
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Aug 02, 2016 12:46pm
@tughral absolutely right
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Aug 02, 2016 12:56pm
Inhuman attitude from BSF. Inadvertent border crossings in broad daylight occur frequently and should be resolved without violence
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Aug 02, 2016 01:11pm
Pakistani Rangers would have done the same and it happens all the time. International borders need to be respected
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Aug 02, 2016 01:27pm
Felt heartbroken reading the story. Thousands of such innocent people have lost their lives when mistakenly crossed onto the other side. The boy was just doing its bit, running after its cattle, trying to get it back and so were the BSF people doing their bit. Not looking forward to read about any of such incidents in future. A heartfelt apology to the family of the deceased from the Indians, though nothing can't make up for the loss. No ones to be blamed other than the politicians who should be looking forward to settle disputes and ensure a peaceful atmosphere. Its just because of the tense and sensitive nature of the border that be it BSF or Rangers they have to neutralize the infiltrator/suspect. God give strength to the family at this time of grief.
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Aug 02, 2016 01:31pm
@SAEED PK nice to read you...there should be people to people contact between two countries....our culture, language, ancestors are same why we r fighting....reaaly feeling sorry for the boy
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Aug 02, 2016 01:39pm
Very unfortunate that this happened. I wonder why there was no proper fencing the prevent such issues.
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Aug 02, 2016 01:43pm
Unfortunate & sad... no living being understands how humans have created borders on contiguous terrain
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Aug 02, 2016 01:50pm
@Pank It is India who is not coming to the discussion table....They have some demands...they should change their policy not Pakistan....
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Aug 02, 2016 01:55pm
This is very unfortunate and sad. BSF should have exercised greater caution.
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Aug 02, 2016 01:59pm
@point of view According to agreed rule the warning should be giving to the person who enter into any border by mistake . Firing without warning is violation of rule.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:22pm
@Red Planet I think we can blame BSF given their pledge/word in the recently held meeting with Rangers in Lahore which read: any inadvertent border crosser would be sent back safely.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:23pm
Heartbreaking tragedy. May better sense prevail between both sides' forces.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:23pm
@Kailash : Not 3 days passed before this incident when the border security forces of the two countries sat together and agreed about tackling such issues without aggressive force. It can happen from both sides.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:45pm
Is this what was decided in the joint conference of Rangers and BSF in Lahore last week? What was the need of wasting time when the innocent has to get killed like this?
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Aug 02, 2016 02:46pm
What a feeling the heavily armed bsf personnel would have received after looking at the boy they have just killed. There are a thousand ways to defuse a situation, the Indian mindset is well established at using a heavy hand on every front possible.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:48pm
Extremely sorry. But, see other side too, BSF have threat to their life by illegal entrants too.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:56pm
It's unfortunate though it happened because of a reason. A mother's heart will certainly bleed.
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Aug 02, 2016 02:57pm
Sad to hear
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Aug 02, 2016 03:00pm
@Point of view @Red Planet: Looking for inane excuses on shooting down of a 7 year old (visibly a little child) is pathetic really! God gave us eyes and brain to differentiate between a little one and an adult!!!
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Aug 02, 2016 03:01pm
Very very sad. :( They're mindset BSF. They have been given the task to kill and shot anything coming from Pakistan's side . Even if it was a pigeon.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:02pm
@Ahmed bin Babar why was the boy near to the fence, bsf is on high alert
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Aug 02, 2016 03:07pm
@Sachin No confirmation before shooting? GOD is watching.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:08pm
@Simba ever heard of warning shots. The point is... I am not just saddened by the death of a promisng student...but dissapointed by the lack of understanding that justifies cold blooded murder.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:09pm
@Ahmed bin Babar Aggressive action is not going to help. If an indian boy had come in, Rangers would have shot as well.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:17pm
@Ahmed bin Babar "A lesson must be taught to the BSF for breaking the mutual agreement and taking one precious life"
RIP, promising soul. All Indians agree that his was a precious life that should not have been lost.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:29pm
@Harmony-1© OKi.. good to know that in Pakistan .. 7 Year kid clear matriculation exam securing 729 marks out of 1100 ....... !!!!
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Aug 02, 2016 03:31pm
@SAEED PK recently two bsf personall died as terrorists were trying to infiltrate into India, in the heights of tension why did rangers allowed the poor boy to go near the fenses, how come he crossed all the fenses of both the sides..??
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Aug 02, 2016 03:31pm
@Ahmed bin Babar - It was unfortunate. 17 year old can look like a grown up. India and Pakistan should work together on building a fence to prevent this.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:37pm
Really sad to know the loss of precious life. Why can't both India and Pakistan agree not to shoot citizens?
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Aug 02, 2016 03:37pm
RIP young one! Another innocent life lost...
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Aug 02, 2016 03:37pm
Such incidences are unfortunate. This is because of mistrust between two neighbors. The point here is there are very very less or no incidences of someone crossing border from Indian side into pak side. Pakistani guards can play active role in avoiding such incidences. Very sorry for the loss of life and apologize to parents of the boy
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Aug 02, 2016 03:38pm
@zakir hussain Great Thought my friend. Unfortunately the peace in these two nation can not make the Leaders rich and their crony political gains. Sic
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Aug 02, 2016 03:39pm
@Reddy: See through Google-earth. There are only a few spots where the fence has been laid along with no-man's corridor. Rest is all open land and we have free exchange of animals including some game-animals!
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Aug 02, 2016 03:43pm
These incident sadly will happen again and again, until or unless we believe that we are one big family called Indian subcontinent. I pray that we realize this one day that love is the healer. State and religion needs to be separated forever and humanity becomes the new faith of ours. Shanti to all.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:52pm
@tughral ..well they take pigeons as spys and arrest them what do you expect!!! that tells you how trigger happy they are and what is their training!! shameful really.
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Aug 02, 2016 03:56pm
17 is a dangerous age to be crossing border . Sorry for the family
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Aug 02, 2016 03:58pm
@Sachin why had they signed the contract ?
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Aug 02, 2016 03:59pm
sad news for pakistan
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Aug 02, 2016 04:09pm
@Tamil If anything happens then you people start making a fuss that what our BSF is doing? Pakistan use the same argument that infiltration is not possible due to BSF.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:14pm
@Harmony, how do you know he was a small boy?Did you ever meet him? I have "17 year old" nephews who look like 25 year old grown men. A BSF sniper 100 yards away can't tell whether an intruder is 17 or 25, he follows instructions and shoots before losing a potential spy out of his sight. If PAK rangers found a "17 year old" Indian sheperd in troubled border area, wouldn't they think he is a spy as BSF let him cross the border so easily or would they let him enter, believe his story and help him find his buffalo?
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Aug 02, 2016 04:17pm
@Aniket Rastogi Your sorrow is worth, we need people like you both sides, be blessed
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Aug 02, 2016 04:20pm
That's sad loss of precious life
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Aug 02, 2016 04:20pm
@Akram yes they do!
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Aug 02, 2016 04:24pm
By mistake, yeah sure.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:26pm
@Sachin The BSF personnel could have arrested the unarmed boy by asking him to surrender and then investigate the matter.
There is no point having meetings and agreements, when it is not implemented on the ground with tragic results.
My thoughts and condolences goes to the bereaved family for their loss which could have been avoided.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:35pm
An act of cowardice by India his death must be avenged
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Aug 02, 2016 04:43pm
Very sad to hear this. A mother lost her son heart breaking tragedy . RIP bro
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Aug 02, 2016 04:45pm
Rangers would have done the same, BSF were well within their rights. Sad the boy had to lose his life.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:48pm
Guy's you need to understand that Punjab(India) election is near and BSF is under tremendous pressure to stop smuggling and counterfeit currency.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:48pm
@Waqas
There might be many reasons why the boy was shot. He may be wandering among tall grass. Some time you see and sometimes not. He might have been mistaken for a tall man and an militants etc. So guards are under orders to shoot anything suspicious. So it is the Pak guards should be held responsible to let the young man cross to Indian side.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:51pm
@Vazir - Valid point you made ...but they could have just arrested him...it was just one guy against an army!
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Aug 02, 2016 04:52pm
Simple question to Indians:
If a 17 year old Indian boy inadvertently walked to Pak side of the border in broad daylight and Pak rangers shot him dead point blank then will you be OK with it? I am sure not. You will be angry. So look at it from our side now.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:55pm
@Red Planet Of course you wont blam the BSF! A boy running after cattle was a terrorist??? If you had not suppresed the Ksahmiris perhaps you wont have cross border terrorism. Stop making shameful excuses.
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Aug 02, 2016 04:57pm
Modi has made India trigger happy ... if this persists then only innocents on both sides will suffer. I am sure people cross the border by mistake on daily basis ...
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Aug 02, 2016 05:13pm
The disbelief between neighbours is extreme .
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Aug 02, 2016 05:16pm
I wonder what BSF would have done to Bajrangi bhaijaan after he had stood near the fence on Pakistani side. In any case, a warning shot is always given and even a loud speaker is also not a bad option. Also, did they really have to go for a kill shot, or are they really bad shooters.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:24pm
That is why border fencing is a must, these kind of unintended crossing can be stopped.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:26pm
@Rajesh Such Innocent BSF is that they saw the boy and cant see the buffallo which is 7 times bigger than boy...they fired the boy and not the buffallo ...The buffallo could also prove to be Suicide bomber had the pigeon proved a spy...they can also shoot warning shots before hitting the boy...
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Aug 02, 2016 05:29pm
@Balochi Rangers have more humanity and have returned several Indian children, women and old men who crossed. In one instance they returned a boy with his sheep.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:29pm
@adnan how do you know that a warning wasn't given
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Aug 02, 2016 05:32pm
@SadFaces They went for the kill shot no doubt. Has Indian govt apologized to the family? NO.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:38pm
I am longing for the day when India Pakistan live like Europe. The land belongs to no one. It existed before us and will exist after us. Let us live peacefully, travel, trade freely across borders.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:46pm
No No this is totally inhumane when you are not at war. Was it too difficult for so called trained and professional BSF personnel to capture him alive ? Seems like little boy threatened them.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:49pm
@Zak
I don't know who is educated who is not.But fact of the matter is not only the whole boarder fenced but also floodlit at night.I wonder how this boy went across.
If you ever happen to fly over this IB you can clearly see I B from 37000 feet.
I feel sorry for loss of innocent life.
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Aug 02, 2016 05:57pm
@Sachin Many thanks Sachin. This is the kind of humanity we need on both sides otherwise such hate will continue for ever
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Aug 02, 2016 06:05pm
@point of view there is a fence but it is 100-150 m on indian side.. so we got 100 m of their land towards our side which is unfenced and indian farmers come there. New person cant judge that he has crossed the border as border pillars are small and cannot be seen easily . I have been on this side. Rangers walas cant hold the whole place with manpower
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Aug 02, 2016 06:16pm
@zakir hussain well said. unnecessarily one life lost.
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Aug 02, 2016 06:17pm
@Tamil We cant blame the BSF. What if a terrorist come as person crazing the cattle. It Pakistan rangers duty not allow the common people in the sensitive area
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Aug 02, 2016 06:21pm
@Ahmed bin Babar
Good luck
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Aug 02, 2016 06:23pm
@Jamil - am from India and I am sorry for this, I apologise to the parents and the community....wish there was more i could do....yes, maybe he crossed over BUT why shoot to kill? shoot his leg injure him, arrest him........
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Aug 02, 2016 07:13pm
It so unfortunate. Not the first time, won't be the last time until peace prevails between weary neighbors. Lets give a diplomacy a chance. Peace not war.
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Aug 02, 2016 07:24pm
Shame on Us (Pak & India)...our issues took life of a young man, full of life, 17th just matric passed, OMG...BSF could have shown some humanity,
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Aug 02, 2016 07:26pm
@Ravindran Not whole border is fenced but a very little part of it.
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Aug 02, 2016 07:32pm
Unfortunate but the same thing happens with Indians too
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Aug 02, 2016 07:51pm
@point of view and @Red Planet. The people living in the border belt do not have many options if their fields/farms are next to the border. This is their livelihood and they have to go to their farms/fields.
This is very sad incident and a shameful brutal act by BSF.
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Aug 02, 2016 07:53pm
@vmo ... why don't you join the BSF to know the actual scenario
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Aug 02, 2016 07:56pm
@Farrukh .. what if he actually threatened them???
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Aug 02, 2016 08:00pm
@lafanga .. why should they.. there might be clear sign board board in English, Hindi and urdu stating that if someone tresspasses he will be dealt with severty.. BSF is not at fault at all... its the border on pakistan's border which is at fault...
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Aug 02, 2016 08:29pm
So, where did actually BSF beats the family member?
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Aug 02, 2016 08:30pm
@Sachin Ok, if you say so
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Aug 02, 2016 08:30pm
@vmo That's exactly what I mean. There are different ways to deal with this kind of situation. He could have been warned and asked to surrender. You shoot to kill when you are either fired upon or threatened.
I hope BSF personnel would learn from this incident and act responsibly in future and not be trigger happy.
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Aug 02, 2016 08:37pm
@Sachin - "BSF men were only doing their duty and following orders from the top to watch for any intruder. "
I thought the agreement was to hand anyone who crossed the border to the Pakistani side?
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Aug 02, 2016 08:40pm
It's indeed a sad story. Common people pay for others deeds. Clear case of how neighbours shouldn't be. Situation is so volatile in that region that slightest of mistake can yield horrific results. RIP brother.
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Aug 02, 2016 08:45pm
Poor kid lost his life for no reason. This is why it is very important for the BSF and Rangers to prevent their citizens from getting too close to the border.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:04pm
Mistrust is the ground of all such incidents which needs to be built... May his young soul rest in peace.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:08pm
What else do you expect, it's a border.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:12pm
@Ravindran Border is 1100KM. not every inch is fenced.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:28pm
The border is double fenced and heavily guarded then how a buffalo and boy crossed over the other side of border.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:40pm
sad and regrettable, something needs to be done for the same.
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Aug 02, 2016 09:41pm
@Simba couldn't they ask him to undress from a distance if there was any threat...this is unacceptable and should be taken very seriously he has been our brother son and future which has been takeno away from us
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Aug 02, 2016 10:49pm
To all the Indians justifying BSF for shooting.
Are you guys honestly this scared of a 17 year old boy chasing a buffalo in broad daylight that you MUST kill him on the spot? Think about it for a minute will you.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:06pm
Perhaps the Rangers should keep people away from border. Condolences to family of deceased. Innocent victim of hostilities.
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Aug 02, 2016 11:54pm
So, where's the buffalo? Did BSF shoot it dead, too?
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Aug 03, 2016 12:00am
Shinning India
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Aug 03, 2016 12:11am
He was not a boy. He was a seventeen year old adult guy. And, border is not a place to roam.
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Aug 03, 2016 12:19am
@tughral u forgot Sarabjit
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Aug 03, 2016 12:59am
Why so Pakistanis allow people to live so near so close to the border. You never hear of this sort of thing from India
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Aug 03, 2016 01:18am
Barbaric act.
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Aug 03, 2016 01:19am
This is how infiltration takes place. BSF how come a Pakistani was able to cross border. We have lot more muslim than we can handle.Please fence the boder tight and so much for laser and new technology.
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Aug 03, 2016 01:59am
And they shot him by mistake
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Aug 03, 2016 02:19am
display of pure hatred by baby killers
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Aug 03, 2016 03:30am
Deeply saddened. RIP
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Aug 03, 2016 03:51am
@SonuIM
Right said!!
He is not a boy
Come he was a adult.
People from both sides should and must keep away the international border.
Tbe boy is to blame.
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Aug 03, 2016 05:10am
@Ind But what BSF can do...Pakistan day in day out sending so many terrorist. I can only think blaming BSF is not fair. Yes, someone said Pakistan should teach a lesson . Yes that Pakistan can try. After all we have fought 4 wars and we know the output.
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Aug 03, 2016 05:37am
I feel so sad for this unfortunate young man. Will someone tell the Rangers to be vigilant and not allow civilians this close to the international border?
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Aug 03, 2016 05:40am
Disgusting!!
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Aug 03, 2016 06:13am
Media should be a bit responsible in reporting such incidents. Content appears to sensitize and flare up emotions. Its a border between two neighbours who had fought four wars. What were the rangers doing when someone was so close to the border? Accidents like this are hard to prevent when mistrust exists between two nations and reports like this will only fuel emotions.
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Aug 03, 2016 06:34am
No mistake...how could the boy cross the fence by mistake. If the BSF was so arrogant to shoot the boy without any warning, then how come the parents crossed the fence and then got beaten up by BSF? If BSF was so mental, then why didn't they shot the parents? Pakistanis need to understand that they can't keep on treating India as an enemy and then cross the border when they desire...BTW, where were the Pakistani Rangers that time? Aren't they manning their posts?
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Aug 03, 2016 06:46am
Inhuman! They could have at least fired warning shots. Trigger happy idiots!
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Aug 03, 2016 09:12am
This is really sad. Unnecessary death, please both side show some sense of humanity.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:22am
Shooting the unarmed is considered as bravery in certain areas of the world.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:44am
@Ahmed bin Babar The tendency of asking for lesson only results in such more deaths. The idea should be that Rangers and BSF work together and not allow such horrible incidents happen in future.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:49am
@Anirban This they had agreed upon very recently but the BSF broke the agreement by committing this murder...
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Aug 03, 2016 10:38am
@Raunak - sure.. maybe there is a different side of the story from BSF, I don't know, all i know is that he was only 17?..and we all have kids
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Aug 03, 2016 11:05am
@Harmony-1©
17, actually!
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Aug 03, 2016 11:08am
As an Indian I feel very sad, an young and hopeful life was needlessly lost. Indian B S F should have been less trigger happy. But is there not a strong and secure fencing all along the border in Punjab and elsewhere to prevent such mishaps involving both nations?
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Aug 03, 2016 11:23am
Is there any humanity left on earth? God protect the innocents.
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Aug 03, 2016 11:37am
so sad
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Aug 03, 2016 11:59am
This boy's life would have been saved if India and Pakistan were friends. There is too much suspicion(trust deficit) between the rivals India and Pakistan, which need to be reduced to nil to save such lives.
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Aug 03, 2016 12:41pm
This is very unfortunate happening. But I don't understand how the boy came over crossing the heavily fenced boarder. Moreover, unless terrorists from Pakistan are not stopped, you can't blame the security forces in this part
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Aug 03, 2016 01:26pm
@Lafanga Isn't it a responsibility of Pakistani Rangers to stop the Boy to go near a border?
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Aug 03, 2016 02:40pm
How he and his buffaloes crosses all fences?
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Aug 03, 2016 04:11pm
so SAD..
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Aug 03, 2016 04:44pm
@Ahmed bin Babar Which agreement ?????
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Aug 03, 2016 04:46pm
This is indeed a barbaric act on the part of BSF. At the worst, they could have arrested the boy or maimed him instead of taking his life. This shows that BSF is a brutal force and does not have any iota of clemency or humanity.
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Aug 03, 2016 05:06pm
@Muftkhor
Yes, when international borders are guarded by armed soldiers, respect it. Don't fool around. Guards shoot first. Then ask questions later!
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Aug 03, 2016 05:22pm
This is tragic and very sad!!
there can be hundred stupid explanations,but above all this shouldnt be happening.
Not to young innocents, not to our mothers!!
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Aug 03, 2016 05:48pm
@S Singh Ask your BSF what they agreed upon very recently with our rangers...
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Aug 03, 2016 05:52pm
@Ravindran The boy did not cross the fences. Just for your information, there is a no man's land between two lines of demarcations, then there is Indian territory where Indian farmer work in their fields, then the fence is well within the Indian territory. Most probably the boy followed his buffalo crossing the no man's land and entered the Indian territory which is outside the fence, where BSF might have shot him from the observation posts
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Aug 03, 2016 06:59pm
@Ahmed bin Babar - ask pakistan what they signed up at the UN on Kashmir
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Aug 03, 2016 07:31pm
This is height of stupidity. Why not fire the warning shots first and if that doesn't work then shoot. What about using some common sense here by BSF? This must have happened in broad daylight and the BSF can very well see that it is an error on the boy's part.
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Aug 03, 2016 07:41pm
Can any human from Indian side feel pain of mother ???
It is Indian routine that they kill civilians even when they pose no threat. Well armed bsf personal have had arrested him why they simply shoot any one on the border???
Contrary to this inhuman attitude Pakistan rangers don't kill innocent civilians who cross border but arrest and if they prove innocent they are returned to India. Last year pak rangers even returned two Indian soldiers who were floated to other side in a eiver
show some humanity indians
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Aug 03, 2016 07:41pm
This is not acceptable by any standards.People mistakenly cross the border that might not be normal but could have been arrested .
Sad and Condolences from India :( :(
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Aug 03, 2016 07:45pm
@Sachin it is a routine by Indian border force. With the help of binocular they can safely see if the boy was carring any weapon.
They may have arrested him but for Indian forces being a Pakistani was his biggest sin
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Aug 03, 2016 07:48pm
@Gary what about bsf they may have easily arrested a 17 year old unarmed civilian ????
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Aug 03, 2016 07:51pm
@Rajesh why they don't fire warning shots??? Why are they so blood thirsty ????
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Aug 03, 2016 07:54pm
Very sad.
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Aug 03, 2016 08:29pm
very bad,very sad......think about the parents.
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Aug 03, 2016 08:42pm
@vmo they signed for plebiscite in kashmir and not killing innocent civilians who cross by mistake. Read a 100 times.
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Aug 03, 2016 08:59pm
India as a nation almost always proves that they have no ability to hold a conversation or a dialogue or understand nature of agreements they make or how to use diplomacy to improve relationships. Everything India does is through the use of guns and excessive force, this is prevalent in how they are trying to silence people in Kashmir. From low-level administration to high level, it is a sad state of affairs with India. It is very difficult for Pakistan to understand how to deal with such hostile nation.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:11pm
@point of view, So that's your view of someone losing their life for no reason? Very disappointed.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:15pm
@Red Planet, If you ever get to go to the border between India and Pakistan, you would understand that there are many areas where there are no fences, some areas are only marked with large rocks separating the two countries and their boundaries, and yes, cows and goats roam and graze even on the Indian side, educate yourself before commenting, makes a better world for everyone.
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Aug 03, 2016 09:16pm
My sympathy is for the mother of this child who lost their son.It shows how pak rangers allow their people to enter in INDIA . BSF did whatever was correct for the security of their people but what about the responsibility of Pak Rangers ????????
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Aug 03, 2016 09:25pm
This spilling of our innocent blood has boiled my blood!!!! Gosh what has happened to Pakistani people and army!!!
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Aug 03, 2016 09:42pm
Being Indian I sincerely feel sorry for the parents of this kid. Hope someday we neighbors will learn how to get along...
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Aug 03, 2016 10:10pm
I wonder if BSF cannot use rubber bullets under these circumstances.
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Aug 03, 2016 10:44pm
at least should have shot in leg to save the life ..unfortunately the BSF is on high alert
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Aug 03, 2016 11:25pm
Trust deficit has reached to such height that border crossing even accidentally is far more dangerous than adventure to Everest . Border protection personals can not be blamed simply because they obey their superior's order.
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Aug 03, 2016 11:39pm
So sad. Earth is for all people. All boundaries are man made and temporary.
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Aug 03, 2016 11:49pm
Sorry from Indian side...but the men in Duty did his job only...He should aware while living in a sensitive area and crossing each others border...
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Aug 04, 2016 12:04am
@Hard Truth, I am with you on that, its very unfortunate these poor people get caught in the middle, look at all the fishermen, these herders, on both sides pay the price, locking up these folks serves no purpose, both sides need to understand that, on top, it does not bother one person in any government how their families are suffering.
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Aug 04, 2016 01:08am
@Faisal ...you don't have to deal with India. Just Educate people on your side not cross the borders. As simple as that.
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Aug 04, 2016 03:07am
heartbreaking , this wet my eyes, no matter if shot fired from this side or that side , an innocent life it claimed , look at root cause, someone is adamant to establish normal ties , we would not have witnessed this if there is't bitterness in relations.
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Aug 04, 2016 08:00am
@Kailash It's not like that, Killing of one innocent Muslim is killing of all humanity.
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Aug 04, 2016 08:14am
@zakir hussain :It's called territorial lust!Got it?
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Aug 04, 2016 08:18am
@Akram : Many do!
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Aug 04, 2016 08:20am
@tughral; Border people should be taught caution by their clerics. T hey seem to do very well teaching other things!
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Aug 04, 2016 08:24am
@gl : Do build your own where fencing is lacking! Why do people and countries build fences in the first place?
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Aug 04, 2016 08:28am
@Harmony-1© : 17 --not 7!
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Aug 04, 2016 08:44am
@Abrar : BSF are humans and afraid of being killed by "innocent"-looking "boys"!
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Aug 04, 2016 09:20am
@Akram.. Anyone crossing border without permission should be consider as a threat.. Crossing an international border without permission is a big deal.. I don't see BSF has done anything wrong.. It's their duty to neutralize any threat to nation that is why we have given rifles in their hand..
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Aug 04, 2016 10:23am
Very unfortunate incident. It is not BSF but the mistrust between the two nations which killed the poor boy.
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Aug 04, 2016 11:17am
Tragic.. Army on both sides must respect unarmed civilians and not shoot them. They should be apprehended and returned. Innocent lives lost is not acceptable.
Pakistan on one hand encourages infiltration from its border's ...& these infiltrators don't fight army they lill unarmed innocent people. What freedom fighters are they???!!
Good sense must prevail.
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Aug 04, 2016 12:42pm
How nice & confidence building it would have been if this boy was handed over alive. Killing an individual means killing his entire family.
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Aug 04, 2016 01:22pm
@Harisingh "I wonder if BSF cannot use rubber bullets under these circumstances."
Security action is intended to be more deterrent and prohibitive than punitive. You fire rubber bullets today, and tomorrow there will be dozens of buffaloes with equal number of 'kids' crossing into your territory.
If you had rifles instead of pellet guns, the stone pelting wouldn't have continued for a month. This is how the world goes on.
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Aug 05, 2016 01:52am
@Ravindran
get your facts straight instead of defending BSF. Had there been a fence in the area the boy could not have gone over the line.
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Aug 05, 2016 09:46am
Shameful. I am sure he would not have been armed.
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