Erdogan says would resign if Putin IS oil trade claims proven
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ANKARA: Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday said he would be ready to quit office if allegations by Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin that Turkey traded oil with the militant Islamic State (IS) group were proven.
"I will say something very strong here. If such a thing is proven, the nobility of our nation would require that I would not stay in office," Erdogan was quoted by the state-run Anatolia news agency as saying on the sidelines of the United Nations (UN) climate talks near Paris, which Putin is also attending.
Challenging Putin, who has refused to meet the Turkish leader after the shooting down of a Russian military jet, Erdogan added: "And I tell Mr. Putin 'would you stay in that office?' I say this clearly."
Putin earlier Monday accused Ankara of shooting down the Russian Su-24 warplane last week to protect supplies of oil from the IS group to Turkey, charges Turkey vehemently denies.
"Let's remain patient and let's not act emotionally," said Erdogan.
Erdogan said that Turkey obtained all its oil and gas imports "though the legal path".
"We are not dishonest so as to do this kind of exchange with terrorist groups. Everyone needs to know this."
After the Su-24 bomber was downed on the Syrian border last week, Putin accused the Turks of being "accomplices of terrorists" and said oil from IS territory was being exported through Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 01:43pm
Putin and Erdogan can prove their respective claims in international court of arbitration if they like.
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Dec 01, 2015 01:53pm
I think, claim of both Erdagon and Putin is true.
It is proven by aerial image as well as destruction video of 100s (more than 1000) oil trailers by Russian bombardment moving near/towards Turkish boarder but actually they are not entering in Turkey but some space Alliens transferring those trailers to international market or Israel.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:06pm
Mr. Erdogan,
You should do it right now. There is enough evidence against you already.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:07pm
There is no doubt on the fact that IS is the most rich terror group in the world and it is equally true that oil trade is there main source of income. The Syrian Government has strong hold in Western and Southern border of Syria neighboring with (Jordon, Israel and Lebanon) where as, 2/3 of Syria territory is occupied by IS having borders with Turkey and Iraq therefore, it is most likely that oil is being smuggled through Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:08pm
Mr. Erdogan was very rude at initial stages of this issue. But, now he getting cool down infront of restrictions imposed by Russia. Why can't all of them work unitedly to eliminate IS ?
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Dec 01, 2015 02:08pm
Putin is absolutely right. Turkey and US are supporting ISIS to dislodge legitimate government in Syria. In return Turkey is getting cheap oil from ISIS.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:11pm
if turkey not buying Iraqi n syrian oil then who? Rest white collar crimes never be proved same in our country
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Dec 01, 2015 02:20pm
Turkey is stealing national wealth of Iraq and Syria by supporting worst ever terrorists of human history . Erdogan is pushing country towards dead end, once modern and enlightened Turkey is in control of lunatics.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:23pm
Blame Game .... Russia thinks still Super Power ........... just remember Afghanistan ......... what happen there in 80's.........
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Dec 01, 2015 02:46pm
Turkey is NOW paying the price.
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Dec 01, 2015 02:47pm
What Erdogan means? Land controlled by ISIS, only has border outside Syria or Iraq through Turkish land. One of financial source of ISIS is Oil, as they are smuggling oil from oil wells and refinery they captured. This is claimed by every western country, and this claim is going on since last 3 years. Now, if Turkey is not allowing Smuggling of Syrian and Iraqi oils by ISIS, than how ISIS is smuggling oil and getting money? ... So, if that is what Turkey believes, they should sue all world countries (including each and every Nato countries) before making such tall claims.
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Dec 01, 2015 03:15pm
Never mind the oil the transit of terrorist is through Turkey
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Dec 01, 2015 03:23pm
It would be good for the Turkish PM to take stock of his dwindling support internationally...supporting IS and creating turmoil in your neighbour's land was never a good idea...
today the world is connected and truth cannot remain hidden forever.
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Dec 01, 2015 03:25pm
Erdogan is an accomplice of terrorists. He is supporting his tribesmen (Turkmen). To weaken Kurds who are demanding homeland from the Turkish, Iraqi and Syrian governments, he is aiding and abetting ISIS. How on earth ISIS is able to sell its oil, if it is not passing through Turkey? How on earth, brainwashed idiots are able to travel to Syria and Iraq safely through Turkish border?
What about Kobane, where Kurds were denied to bring reinforcement to get rid of ISIS? Kurds women and elderly were fighting the satanic ISIS and Erdogan was denying the moment of Kurd fighters into Kobane (Syrian town).
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Dec 01, 2015 03:35pm
Amazing, Turkey is the most affected due to crisis in Iraq, Syria and now blamed for everything. Turkey has the right to defend, and if Turkey was buying illegal oil than how come West & US did not say anything.
Syria has Mediteranian Sea on one side and Israel on the other...No wonder how the oil is exported. Since all the middle east is now destablised, it's only Turkey which is a threat to Israel so another conflict now emerging
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Dec 01, 2015 03:39pm
Jins and Angels are selling ISIS oil via Turkey
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Dec 01, 2015 03:47pm
world knows Turkeys nexux in supporting ISIS to eliminate the brave Kurds....Turkey should stop its double game.
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Dec 01, 2015 03:48pm
where are they getting the money and weapons from? Russia has taking satellite pictures showing lines of oil tankers waiting to cross turkish border from syria
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Dec 01, 2015 03:53pm
I am 100% sure Turkish army is playing game
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Dec 01, 2015 03:57pm
@Ahmed Haneef .... Erdogan is relying on military advisors instead of wisdom
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Dec 01, 2015 03:59pm
I solute the confidence of Mr. Erdogan.
He will die but will not reveal the truth.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:01pm
@Alien Russia is still a super power.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:05pm
@Alien
They are still a super power. You have any doubt about it? If yes prove otherwise.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:11pm
Erdogan has ethical strength on this issue. He said at the beginning of IS that it is a creation of US and Israel when all were in an illusion about IS. If Turkey would join in strike against IS with US coalition then Turkey would suffer aftermath like Pakistan.It was his sagacity.
Iran and Russia back Assad regime just like India backs Hasina regime in Bangladesh defying demand of people.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:14pm
Turkey is the only country in the region who has "soft corner" for ISIS (Daesh) and other rebel groups in the Syria and Turkey has the joint boarder with Syria and if Turkey is not buying cheap oil from ISIS then "angels" must be buying this oil
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Dec 01, 2015 04:19pm
Geographically speaking, the area controlled by ISIS is land locked (no access to ports and sea), so the questions arise, if Turkey is not the conduit of the ISIS oil, then who is? And similarly, who are the buyers? The mere statements that Turkey is not involved are meaningless, rather Turkish government must come up with alternative narrative as to who is actually letting these monsters of ISIS sell the Iraqi oil and who are the buyers. They are the regional player, they should know the ground realities.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:27pm
@Rezaul karim BD In Bangaldesh, majority wants Ms. Hasina Govt. Handful of hardliners wants BNP. That is want two elections continuously won by Ms. Hasina.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:36pm
@K "Syria has Mediterranean Sea on one side and Israel on the other.."before weaving conspiracy theories kindly correct your facts Mediterranean Sea is being controlled by Russian as they have a military base there as regards Israeli side it has high hills guarded by Syrian and Israeli armies on the other side Syria has boarder with Iraq who is also fighting against ISIS now one boarder remains and it is with Turkey and it is on record that Turkey has been and still supporting rebels against Assad regime. As regards your claim that Turkey has the right to defend herself please note that Russian jet was not bombing any Turkish installments and it was flying in Syrian air space nearing Turkish boarder. Secondly Israel and Turkey are in same bloc which is opposing Assad regime therefore Turkey has no imminent danger from Israeli side also
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Dec 01, 2015 04:42pm
Problem for Ergoden, he cannot put Putin in jail like he does to anybody who speaks against him.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:43pm
Thousands of Islamic State trucks were lined up at Turkey's border. It is only when Russia started to bomb those tankers that Turkey took umbrage. Since the trucks are no longer plying, Mr.Erdogan is safe in his challenge.
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Dec 01, 2015 04:51pm
If Mr.Putin is proven correct, Mr.Erdogan should fix the problem rather then walking away from a broken vehicle in the middle of the highway.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:06pm
There are plenty of video's on you tube. Some of the popular one being Journeyman pictures. These videos are 6months to 1 year old. This includes official statements by US officials & Interviews with ISIS members and Turkey military personnel.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:11pm
Dear respected Mr. Erodgan. Nothing remains hidden for long. Facts will ultimately come in to light sooner or later. However, the circumstances support Mr. Putin's claim.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:14pm
I was hoping that they will patch up in Paris during the conference but it looks bad already. Turkey made a big mistake and its too late.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:14pm
@Alien. It is not Russia alone. What happened to the allies later and is still happening. Will you comment?
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Dec 01, 2015 05:19pm
Putin's has not alleged that the Govt. of Turkey buys IS oil. The allegation is that IS oil is bought and mixed with oil from other sources by Turkish dealers and then passed on. European media has alleged that these dealers have great influence in Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:30pm
Another leader, will never accept his mistakes. Why we Muslim have such great leaders
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Dec 01, 2015 05:51pm
Putin is right for some extent
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Dec 01, 2015 05:53pm
Mr.Erdogan is giving statements just like South Asian politicians. And I thought he was different.
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Dec 01, 2015 05:53pm
Erdogan & Turkey have been exposed by the brave Putin
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Dec 01, 2015 06:21pm
@Rezaul karim BD Why bring in India here. India has nothing to to do with Turkey or Syria
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Dec 01, 2015 06:32pm
If Mr. Putin is proven corrrect then Mr. Erdogan should accept it and fix the problem rather then vacating a seat and creating another political vaccum. As per muslim tradition accepting ones mistake/failure is ok, but leaving ones designated post will be a bigger mistake.
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Dec 01, 2015 06:39pm
"In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence." from the book Introduction to Logic
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Dec 01, 2015 06:49pm
If turkey is buying oil from Isis, its mean all the EU governments and US government are complicit in this. Its next to impossible for turkey to get oil from Isis without these government not knowing it. Lately Pakistani people and government are very good at loosing friends. First we allowed US to attack Afghanistan because we were scared that US will destroy us if we do not bow and now we are saying things against Turkey while turkey is in a bit of difficult time for protecting its people and territory. How friends countries are going to trust us if we do not stand by in difficult times.
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Dec 01, 2015 06:53pm
Just look at the map of Syria. ISIS can transfer oil only through Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 07:04pm
as i said earlier thats worldwar 3 unfolding.
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Dec 01, 2015 07:36pm
Everyone knows that Erdogan and his son are buying oil from ISIL. If Erdogan does not buy the stolen Syrian Oil where else it goes?
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Dec 01, 2015 07:41pm
if turkey is buying oil then why is US and westerns not not raising their voice against turks.it means IS is product of US and its allies because if they can point and strike the high profile IS leaders through their intelligence then why cant conform the exact buyer.
seems to be a big game
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Dec 01, 2015 08:27pm
When Erdogan says he is not involved in this business, he right because its his son who is buying petrol at the rate of 8 USD/barrel and selling to the whole Europe at 20 USD/barrel... Actual approximate market price of petrol is around 45 USD/barrel.
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Dec 01, 2015 08:31pm
@Alien ...Russia is still strong and its people have stable life. Afghanistan is a miserable country and in ruins.
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Dec 01, 2015 09:00pm
Russia has no role in Syria. Erdogan is the leader of the muslim.world.
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Dec 01, 2015 09:09pm
Turkey has fallen in the trap of some...Turkey should keep trying and get out of this situation as soon as possible...
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Dec 01, 2015 09:32pm
@Aziz , Mr. Aziz, you are asking this from a person, who is loved and respected by people of his country and outside also. Mr Putin is known bully and lair and proved it several times. Putin is just making fuss to keep his popularity high in Russia. Turkey had tried to teach lesson to countries who try to bully.
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Dec 01, 2015 09:57pm
It is quite clear that Putin should accept thecchallenge. Resign if proved wrong. I am sure power hungry leaders can not accept such a challenge.
come on Mr. PUTIN , you got to protect your honour , let this fact be checked if proven wrong accept on the international press conference. Honourable people can notvavoid such challenge.
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Dec 01, 2015 09:58pm
@Munir ....well said.excellent thoughts...from india
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Dec 01, 2015 10:12pm
@Aziz What kind of evidence ??? Don't throw arrow in the dark.
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Dec 01, 2015 10:14pm
@Kabeer Your justification is mythical mate. How come Russia is only saying that Turkey is involved and more openly after their jet is brought down ?
About the Jet's flying pattern, did you even see the route Russian Jet was taking ? In Turkey's defense, on many occasions Syrian Jets tried to violate Turkish AirSpace & often sends drones, so yes they have the right to defend. How about Indian Jets or some Russian jets suddenly show up on on our west border, do you think PAF will hesitate to bring it down ?
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Dec 01, 2015 10:24pm
Mr. Erdogan, Putin will not spare you . Will definitely take revenge.
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Dec 01, 2015 10:27pm
@Pakistani. Erdogan is protecting his son who is involved in the smuggling of oil. So this is quite understandable. Erdogan has been a huge disappointment for me with his policies to destroy the Syrian regime in cahoots with the Gulf Arabs.
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Dec 01, 2015 10:31pm
Slight air space violation resulted in rapid punishing response. Russians will now think twice before approaching the Turkish airspace.
During the Soviet Occupation of Afghanistan the Soviets repeatedly violated Pakistani airspace. Our response was typical! summon the Afghan envoy and protest.
We should learn from Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 10:32pm
@Mehtab And how do you know that? It looks like there is a lobby here that tries to poison our relationship with our friends. First it was Saudi Arabia and now this lobby is ganging on Turkey.
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Dec 01, 2015 10:36pm
@AA "where are they getting the money and weapons from?" the answer is tied to the questions "Who created ISIS?" Where did this clown Abu Baker Baghdadi emerge from? Who trained him? I believe we all know the answer
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Dec 01, 2015 11:10pm
Throw a stone in a puddle you are likely to be soiled, now the question for Mr. Erdogan is how much does he want Turkey to be soiled?
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Dec 02, 2015 01:53am
To all those who are accusing Turkey of buying cheap oil from Daesh, I think I can easily negate it by using statistics. Turkey imports 92% of its oil and 98 % of its gas consumption from Russia, Iran, Azerbaijan, Nigeria and Qatar. It's gas imports from Russia is around 25 billion cubic meters worth $25 billion. Even if you assume they buy oil in the black market I.e. Daesh it accounts for less than 1% of its oil consumption. As you are aware oil in open market without bulk discounts is trading at $40-45 a barrel in the oil trades. Is it worth anything for a country to buy the meagre oil from Daesh ? And risk its reputation ? I don't think so. I rest my case best regards Mir
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Dec 02, 2015 01:55am
Also would like to add Syria from where this oil smuggling is supposedly going on was not a large oil producer much before the Syrian crisis.
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Dec 02, 2015 03:26am
@Forchinapak old news which Im sure he's used to.
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Dec 02, 2015 03:27am
@Alien 1988??
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Dec 02, 2015 03:27am
@Aziz ya, i don't know what he's waiting for.
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Dec 02, 2015 08:47am
Erdogan,keep your promise to resign. President Obama confirmed today 98 km of open border between Syria and Turkey where ISIS were doing oil trades, allowed by Turkey. Turkey is helping ISIS brothers ,disallowed US/NATO even to use Turkey bases for bombing ISIS until recently. Statements by Obama are supported by picture and satellite pictures.
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Dec 02, 2015 03:24pm
Erdogand should resign immediately for spoiling Turkey-Russia relation.
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Dec 02, 2015 05:56pm
He is personally not involved but his son Bilal is.
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