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Whatmore, who took over as Pakistan coach in March last year, said his tenure had both good and bad times. -File photo by AFP
Whatmore, who took over as Pakistan coach in March last year, said his tenure had both good and bad times. -File photo by AFP

LAHORE: Pakistan cricket coach Dav Whatmore Friday assured fans his team will put the woeful performance in the Champions Trophy behind them and will look for better results on their tour of the Caribbean.

Pakistan crashed out of Champions Trophy in England last month after losing all three matches due to sloppy batting.

“Obviously we need to do better, the results in England were very painful for everyone and that episode is done to death. We now look forward for (a) better job in the West Indies,” Whatmore told reporters.

“We can never guarantee to win 5-0 but we will fight very hard for (a) win,” said Whatmore whose team will play five one-day and two Twenty20 matches in the Caribbean.

The first one-day will be played in Guyana on July 14.

The 59-year-old former Australian batsman, who took over as Pakistan coach in March last year, said his tenure had both good and bad times.

“I rate my performance as one that is very difficult to judge in win-loss ratio,” said Whatmore, under whose coaching Pakistan have won 12 one-day matches but lost 13.

Pakistan have also lost four of the six Tests under his guidance, with two draws.

“I think that sometimes it is very easy to just look at win-loss ratio,” he said.

Recalling the January-March tour of South Africa where Pakistan were routed 3-0 in Tests and 3-2 in one-days, he added: “I would be very surprised if you say that we would win in South Africa. They are ranked world number one and had beaten Australia and England in away series, so I think it’s unfair to see at the win loss ratio.”

“I think you need to look at series in isolation, from time to time, and make an accurate and subjective opinion, so it's been some good times and some not very good times.”

Whatmore denied he had differences with chief selector Iqbal Qasim, who stepped down from his post on Thursday.

“I want to say thanks to Qasim for the services he has rendered. I appreciate that because of the difficulties that exist with the position and I had no problems with him.”

Whatmore said he was comfortable with his coaching tenure despite it ending a year before the 2015 World Cup.

“Usually coaches go tour by tour. South Africa have a coach for two years until the World Cup but I am pretty okay with mine having worked for 16 months and there is more time to discuss for extension.”

Whatmore added he hopes all-rounder Shahid Afridi will raise his form after being recalled to the one-day team.

“Afridi is a great servant for Pakistan cricket and if he raises his form like he did in Johannesburg then he will be useful with both bat and ball,” said Whatmore of Afridi's 88 in South Africa in March this year.

Pakistan's team will fly to the Caribbean on Saturday night.

Comments (29) Closed

John Jul 05, 2013 10:10pm

Good luck. I hope the coach knows what he is talking about.

Iqbal Jul 05, 2013 10:48pm

yeah? you don't want to be judged on win-loss position? then what do you want to be judged on? Please suggest yourself.

Capt C M Khan Jul 05, 2013 11:17pm

Mr Whatmore I am about your age, I have seen nearly every match Pakistan played starting 1968. Win or Loss does not matter. What matters is how easily your team is defeated that is the worry. I have NOT SEEN ANY IMPROVEMENT except occasional fielding during your tenure. You have FAILED to provide us even one SOLID batsman! Sorry extremely disappointed although i was very happy when you took over.

Pathan Jul 05, 2013 11:22pm

So basically Whatmore is saying is that WE ARE JUST GOING TO PLACES TO PARTICIPATE AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW FAR AHEAD THE OTHERS ARE? Complete and utter stupidity. Why don't we just sit home and not play at all. An incredibly shameful approach by a coach to say that he wasn't expecting to win in South Africa, or England, or Australia, or India because of their rankings? Let's just not play and stay at the same ranking that we've always been....That would also save some energy.

Cric Fan Jul 05, 2013 11:26pm

That's a bit ridiculous for a coach to say that he shouldn't be judged on the win loss ratio. That, unfortunately, is the metric tournaments use to decide the winner and if the goal of the coach is to train the team to win, then that has to be the metric we should use to judge him. He is welcome to define a new metric, which he hasn't done. It seems like the rest of the world has moved on to being more analytical about how they approach cricket (and other sports) but our wonderful coach is still living in the past.

AJ Jul 05, 2013 11:52pm

Mr. Watmore how would you like to be judged then if not the win loss ratio. Should we praise you for making our individual batsmen to world beaters or should we say that you developed some new talent. Just the statement that because South Africa had also won against Australia and England, thats why you could have been surprised if someone even thought of winning in South Africa, tells a lot about your pessimism and the way you rate our cricket. Mr. Watmore, we had also won against England with 3-0 and no doubt we could have won at least a test in South Africa if you did not interfere with the selection to get your favourits like Shoaib Malik selected. Now you are heading to WI and if you play the young talent, Haris, Umar and Shehzad in all the matches then we will give you benifit of this and won't judge you by win-loss ratio but if you go by the old guard then it might be your last series.

Ali Jul 06, 2013 12:38am

Very funny. How should a coach be judged? We all knew the selection was flawed from the very beginning but you all had deaf ears. I am glad you are reading though. Even the current team has flawed players but you all insist. We need to groom new players and have a few like Dhawan and Kohli. If you can not deliver then leave with respect.

John Young Jul 06, 2013 03:15am

Mr. Whatmore want to introduce D/L method to judge the performance.

hakim Jul 06, 2013 03:36am

Where is Abdul Razzaq? I consider him as the best batting allrounder in Pakistan.

Politics again?

ailly Jul 06, 2013 03:43am

Hi cricket friends,

until now no foreign coach has success with Pakistan team, like late Bob Woolmer. Dav Whatmore is not the right man for our team. Lot of difference in communication skills is letting down both coach and the team. As I have already mentioned this point sometimes back. Dev Whatmore is trying to hoodwink PCB and us altogether by giving us such statements. Until now we have not seen any improvement in our batting which had let us down repeatedly and this guy is making excuses. How long does he need to coach and make our front line batsmen teach / guide / suggest to leave balls outside off-stump corridor ???. Hafeez is classic example in this respect, having been dismissed in SA on same sort of delivery many a times. So what's his role as coach if the cannot help him sort his deficiency....

Notwithstanding, we need to over-haul the PCB from top to bottom including those players who have repeatedly bagged a bad name for themselves and for the nation. Please consider since last 5/6 years (ever since IPL inception) only Pakistani players are at loggerheads with different trouble ranging from possession of drugs, spot fixing, faking injuries, chewing ball, digging the pitch, physical in-fights, selecting personal favorites at the expense of nation's pride. Book makers are luring them into booby traps and then those guys just disappear leaving our young players slapped with heavy bans. So our players must be taught to protect themselves and safe guard nation's pride. I suggest PCB should invest in such activities rather than foreign coaches. We have plenty of ex players who are willing and have performed wonderfully with results to speak about as well.

Regarding selection of Akmal, he may be talented but have no conviction and direction to play as the situation demands. Am afraid, he may end up like Afridi.... hit, hit and out. Does coach need to look into this aspect as well or not ?. Afridi's selections seems no different from a story surrounding Imran Farhat's selection.

Dav Whatmore must be suggested by PCB, that his job is to concentrate on improving our batting line not suggesting how and under what performance barometer his achievements should be judged.

iqbal Jul 06, 2013 04:33am

Whatmore taught the team to play india just like any other team.Before this pak team always put up excellent fight against india no matter they loose everyone else. Now you saw them how they played. He does not understand how adrenaline works in improving the performance under stress. otherwise he is as good as anyone else

iqbal Jul 06, 2013 04:37am

why did you not print my comment

Riz - US Jul 06, 2013 04:51am

Dave what about Pakistan beating England 3-0 when Mohsin Khan was the coach, I believe they were number 1 as well at that time.

saad Jul 06, 2013 06:11am

Whatmore is a pathetic coach and needs to be replaced by guys predecessor: Khan. Does he have a decent criteria for us to judge him?

Bilal Jul 06, 2013 06:14am

yeah, as long I am getting heaps of tax free money and paying my bills, do not ask me anything... !!! new flash DW !!! you are getting paid to provide a service.. so stop whinging and do your job !!!

sami Jul 06, 2013 07:12am

COACH job is to help players for personal growth and professional advancement. Since Whatamore came team is going down. Before him under Mohsin Khan same team was on the rise by beating England # one 3-0. New batsman like Asad Shafiq and Azhar Ali were on the rise. And then Mohsin was CHANGED :)

Since WHATAMORE came team is lacking fighting spirit. 2nd test in South Africa should have been won by Pakistan, then who knows what would have been the out come of 3rd test. But, batsmen could not perform at clutch time in 2nd test. We need a successful Test/ODI batsman to coach our team. Preferably a Pakisatni who can communicate well with our players. Mohammad Yousf, Aamir Sohail, Mohsin Khan, Mushtaq Ahamad all seems GOOD to me. PCB doesn't like team's winning state (K Dil Manta Nahen).........

sachay moti wale sarkar Jul 06, 2013 08:06am

I don'tt think so Afridi can improve(unfortunately),he is the most senior player in world cricket(almost 16/18yrs)but overall his performance is not upto scratch he could have learn by now from his mistake and others good performance but he hasn't got temperament,even if you do some good few overs in one day or twenty twenty still he is a waste of space and tax payers money,I request to selection committe to pick players on merit rather than on it's ethnicity,**country***come first.

imran Jul 06, 2013 08:38am

what non-sense is this, then how he want people to judge him, by his hefty salary (but not any problem with his salary) or where he comes from, wins-loss ratio shows where u stand. and in his tenure pakistan got bad to worse. but even mohsin khan was not good. He always remind about the test series whitewash but he forgot about the whitewash he got back in odi against england Jul 06, 2013 10:42am

Ask him if Pakistan should play india the same way as they play other teams

aisha Jul 06, 2013 11:25am

Whose even going to be watching the tour to carribbean ?

RAJ Jul 06, 2013 12:09pm

Watmore was known as agressive coach but being with Tuk tuk,he lost his agressiveness and defending his job as a Coach by giving a defending statement,,cant believe he is the same coach who coached Srilanka to play agressively and win worldcup he is talking like TUK TUK...Due to age he also lost his agressiveness..Common Coach quit your job u dont fit as instead of going with Afridi like players u r selectecting test players for One day....

fida sayani Jul 06, 2013 02:34pm

What a pathetic reasoning. If he has little bit of sportsmanship left him, he should resign immediately.

raj Jul 06, 2013 04:02pm

@ Misbha has no right to say anyone's selection is good or bad as his selection also very critical being captain he never performs never leads the team under crucial circumstances like Mahender Singh Dhoni his scores comes only against weak teams and more Misbha occupies the crease more Pak team losses as he creates pressure by wasting deliveres ,he can justify selection only if he performs and win few matches as captain by his own performance....He dont have rite to interferr in selection and he is not elegible for local cricket as welll really corrupt board is projecting a weak captain who only talks big but never produce a match winning knock...

Umair Khalid Jul 06, 2013 04:30pm

then how should we judge you then? this is the only performance meter that is available. If Pakistan had gone down fighting in all three games, then we would not have judged you on win-loss ratio. Instead we would have been happy that players had put in a real effort but they were unlucky

zahid Jul 06, 2013 04:31pm

Mr Whatmore what is your purpose being a pakistani Coach? only 49 runs against south africa made by Pakistan. should you not ACCOUNTABLE for that?

pakfan Jul 06, 2013 11:57pm

@RAJ: The fact is that we see no improvement in players performance since Whatamore joined the team. Before him team was on the rise with same TUK TUK beating England no. one side 3-0. New players Asad Shafiq and Azhar emerged and team was playing with high spirits. There is COMMUNICATION GAP between coach and the players, where tuk tuk has not changed much before and after Whatamore.

Tariq Jul 07, 2013 07:23am

Do we also expect Dav to hold the bat for Hafeez,, Asad Shafiq, Azar Ali, Shoaib Malik. Kamran Akmal? We cannot bat and selectors are not helping. In other words coach Dav Whatmore is least of our problems. personally, I liked Moshin Khan as the team coach but now we have to sleep in the bed we made.

Osman Jul 07, 2013 11:28am

@hakim: I am a great fan of Razzak too and of his talents. While he can still bat a bit (slog but not run well between wickets), I think he is too old to bowl well or to field. Purely on match fitness, he cannot be in Pakistan team anymore.

azad Jul 07, 2013 06:22pm

Mr. Watmoor! Tell us what other standards if v not gona judge u by win or loss!