ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday stated that it is against any attempt to topple the government of Syrian President Bashar al Assad.

"Pakistan is also against foreign military intervention in Syria and fully supports the territorial integrity of the Syrian Arab Republic,” said Foreign Secretary Aizaz Chaudhry.

"Pakistan supports all efforts employed at facilitating a peaceful Syrian-led and inclusive solution that meets the aspirations of the Syrian people through a comprehensive political dialogue," added Chaudhry.

It is pertinent to mention that since the start of the Syrian conflict, Pakistan had maintained a policy of strict neutrality. The statement from the foreign secretary marks a significant shift in Pakistan's policy on the ongoing Syrian crisis.

The foreign secretary was speaking at the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee, which met earlier at Parliament House in Islamabad.

Pakistan’s stance on finding a peaceful solution for the Syrian crisis was also reiterated on the occasion.

Read: A flawed alliance

Earlier, the adviser to prime minister on foreign affairs, Sartaj Aziz, had told the Senate that the exclusion of some Islamic countries from the Saudi-led 34-nation anti-terror alliance will be discussed at international level.

Pakistan was named as part of the Saudi-led 34-nation anti-terror alliance meant to combat terrorism, without first getting its consent, and found itself in the crosshairs of Middle Eastern politics.

Later, after initial ambiguity, the Pakistan government confirmed its participation in a Saudi-led military alliance for ‘fighting terrorism’, but said the scope of its participation would be defined after Riyadh shared the details of the coalition it was assembling.

The Saudi government surprised many countries by announcing that it had forged a coalition for coordinating and supporting military operations against terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt and Afghanistan. The headquarters of the new Saudi-led coalition would be based in Riyadh.

Take a look: Pakistan confirms participation in Saudi-led anti-terror alliance

Director General of Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR) Lt Gen Asim Bajwa had also stated earlier in November that Pakistan will not send its troops for any mission outside the region.

This is not the first time that Saudi Arabia has named Pakistan as part of its military alliances without Islamabad’s knowledge and consent. The Saudis earlier named Pakistan as part of the coalition that carried out operations in Yemen and a Pakistani flag was displayed at the alliance’s media centre.

Pakistan later declined to join the Yemen war.


Comments (231) Closed



narejo
Dec 24, 2015 01:23pm

bravo! just and courageous decision. much firm stance than most of countries of world. plz dont succumb to pressure now.

Aman
Dec 24, 2015 01:23pm

Well done Pakistan, Proud of your stand.

Akram
Dec 24, 2015 01:27pm

Good. Take a firm stand. It is not our business who rules Syria.

omer khan shaheen
Dec 24, 2015 01:28pm

Pakistan should act as a peace maker only.

Mahmood
Dec 24, 2015 01:28pm

Finally, Pakistani government is doing something sensible, and aligning with Iranian side. I would not bet on Saudis or their so-called 'alliance'.

Aziz
Dec 24, 2015 01:29pm

Hope this is not one of the numerous transient statements issued by our F.O.Our foreign policy appears to be written on sand.

It is a very bold and courageous statement reflecting the WILL of the people of the people of Pakistan as declared in our Parliament's resolution.

CK
Dec 24, 2015 01:31pm

That's the way Pakistan !!! Wonderful stand.

AK
Dec 24, 2015 01:31pm

This is a good stand to be neutral and play its role to defuse tension rather than siding. The Arab world is divided and the role of Saudi in further fueling the situation by forming an alliance will further fragment the Muslims. The jobs others want to do, Saudi has become the front line state to weaken the Muslim countries.

Rahul
Dec 24, 2015 01:33pm

At last some spine to show. Hope there are no flip flops on this.

SohailAnwar
Dec 24, 2015 01:34pm

A positive move and clear statement by Pakistan foreign ministry.

El Cid
Dec 24, 2015 01:35pm

Saudi Arabian alliance is of US-Israeli design, being mustered to attack Shiaa Iran, Iraq, Syria. Pakistan must stay out of it. Further this alliance must demonstrate that is indeed Islamic by first freeing Gaza, Palestine, Kashmir.

karimullah
Dec 24, 2015 01:36pm

It is a brave statement if it is true. We suffered a lot involving in other country affairs though no Arab country helped us during crisis. Instead we became victims of Arab financed terrorism.

Faiz Khilji
Dec 24, 2015 01:36pm

"It is pertinent to mention that since the start of the Syrian conflict, Pakistan had maintained a policy of strict neutrality. The statement from the foreign secretary marks a significant shift in Pakistan's policy on the ongoing Syrian crisis."

I could not understand how does it mark a significant shift in Pakistan's policy? Could someone educate me, please?

Zikrya
Dec 24, 2015 01:37pm

A courageous tone of a sovereign country. In fact a section of foreign policy has precisely understood the game in Syria. Any wrong step in Middle East matter can inflict huge impact on world. The Arabia is in state of confusion knowing that things are moving out of control and tries to drag others without realizing the hardships. Pakistan cannot afford such huge campaign outside which triggers challenges in home and abroad parallel. One should be realistic in analyzing the unbalanced wishes of arab friends that can never be fulfilled by any independent nation. Yes Nawaz owes much to them, but he is not king here to shift foreign policy overnight.

Yeh Cheex
Dec 24, 2015 01:37pm

Excellent!

frozen
Dec 24, 2015 01:37pm

Shuker hai! Great decision

SAK(USA)
Dec 24, 2015 01:38pm

proud of Pakistan .

long live Pakistan .

sr khan
Dec 24, 2015 01:39pm

that is right approach, every country and nation should decide about itself, we should rather put our own house in order

Saleem
Dec 24, 2015 01:41pm

It is good for pakistan to maintain the policy of neutral just like China.

Skeptic
Dec 24, 2015 01:43pm

Absolutely the right thing to do.

We have no issues with Syria to choose who should or shouldn't rule the country.

M.waseem Akram
Dec 24, 2015 01:44pm

This isa right decision.We should not interfere in the internal affairs of other countries.Only the Sriyians have the right to change its ledership.

Abdulla Hussain
Dec 24, 2015 01:44pm

A very articulate decision yet this may not generate enough support. Since its creation Pakistan has followed the greater Muslim point of view, this is a path that may be considered as slight deviation from the laid principal. Pakistan should make correct move to avoid isolation.

Red Dawn
Dec 24, 2015 01:46pm

I like this government. Although i am PTI voter and would remain same but i respect Nawaz Sharif. He may me misguided in his priorities but he has Pakistan's best interest at heart.

Magnify
Dec 24, 2015 01:46pm

Pakistan is in for afghanistan as there will be no long lasting peace unless TTP eliminated inside Afghanistan. Egyptians will go after daesh to secure senai island. Turkish wants action against PKK.

Suadi wants hoti cleansing in their ackyard formula is very simple your scratch my back and i will scartch yours.Inclusion of Afghanistan was clear sign that pakistan will be part of this Alliance.

Changez_Khan
Dec 24, 2015 01:49pm

Very wise decision. Just Stay out of Mid East Mess.

Ishtiaq kareem
Dec 24, 2015 01:49pm

Well done pakistan . Exellent decision.

Muhammad Ali
Dec 24, 2015 01:50pm

Alhumdolillah! Pakistan Zindabaad!

indian
Dec 24, 2015 01:51pm

well done pakistan..

Adul Jadoon
Dec 24, 2015 01:51pm

The Syrian regime must go, if that is what the majority of Syrians want!

majid
Dec 24, 2015 01:51pm

Now that's what I call a sensible decision on part of pakistan

Shahid
Dec 24, 2015 01:52pm

Thanks Gen R. Shareef for preventing N. Sharif from Saudi pressure!

Saqlain
Dec 24, 2015 01:52pm

Good thinking on Pakistan's part.

AIK
Dec 24, 2015 01:53pm

So Sad. Better for Pakistan to remain neutral rather than legitimizing a dictator who is clinging to power un-democratically and has already killed hundred thousands of innocent women, children and men. Current statement of Foreign Office is not neutrality but siding with a dictator who is supported by un-democratic forces to strengthen his occupation upon people of Syria. Pakistan should support the respect and concerns for Human Rights in Syria.

Muhammed
Dec 24, 2015 01:55pm

but then - we are in a group where only a few countries exist - we are leaving the MAJORITY group and those who are very close (have been helping us with Billions of dollars)

i wonder how would they continue keeping this policy and that in near future not take a U Turn - also this decision is taken after due and careful considerations

Saeed Masood
Dec 24, 2015 01:56pm

Come on Pakistan...good good good...stand on your feet and throw the clutches away be absolutely independent... improve relations with immediate neighbours ... learn from China ...God will help Inshahallah...

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 01:57pm

" Pakistan on Wednesday stated that it is against any attempt to topple the government of Syrian President Bashar al Assad." Excellent views. Perfectly correct. This is the lesson everybody learnt from the history of Iraq and Libya.

Aziz
Dec 24, 2015 01:58pm

@Mahmood

Pakistan is not aligning with any side. It is, correctly adopting a neutral position on this internecine strife.

Ashfaq
Dec 24, 2015 02:03pm

A long awaited statement from the right person.Future of Syria is to be decided by Syrian people and not by foreign military intervention.

M. Malik
Dec 24, 2015 02:07pm

@Aziz This is precisely what Iranians and Russians have been demanding from western powers that have intervened or are supporting the rebels who have been trying to over throw Assad for four years.

salman
Dec 24, 2015 02:08pm

Amazing. After having butchered hundreds of thousands of his country men and women, people in Pakistan are in favour of the asad remaining in power.

Hiwad
Dec 24, 2015 02:10pm

Rise and shine!! No more pressure from " Brother Countries"

Larka
Dec 24, 2015 02:10pm

Well done Pakistan. This also shows Saudi Arab is down the hill now.

khan
Dec 24, 2015 02:11pm

pakistan should rather take neutral stand and dont support dictator who killed thasands and make millions homeless

Pankaj
Dec 24, 2015 02:11pm

Loved it..... this is indeed a big and positive change in Pakistan foreign policy. If similarly Pakistan keep on putting its own interest on priority prosperity will follow.

khurram
Dec 24, 2015 02:15pm

This persistent Saudi bashing will cost us a friend

Hiwad
Dec 24, 2015 02:15pm

@Adul Jadoon Majority of Syrians or some hand full thinkings?? why not the majority wanted it for the last 40 yrs.?? stop destroying the Syrian society and Syria!! no more Iraq and Libya like situation

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 02:17pm

@AIK , Remember what happened in Iraq and Libya. In the name of removing dictators from those countries, everybody actually destroyed those countries. Even the little comforts that the people were getting also got lost. Even the big powers who intervened in those countries have now realized their mistakes. A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. When the so called moderates started sucking the blood like leaches, Assad retaliated.

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 02:18pm

Correct judgement. Congratulations Pakistan.

Long View
Dec 24, 2015 02:24pm

Pakistan is not in ME. We should stay out of it. By the same token we expect Iran too need to do more to bring the temperature down which come about only after Iranian revolution in late seventies. It is in every ones interests.

Aneel Kumar Bachwani
Dec 24, 2015 02:24pm

It seems the current foreign policy making leadership is trying hard to learn from the past, specially from the Afghan 1979 saga and lead in WoT. Pakistan's maintenance of strict neutrality in Syrian Crisis since its inception and the exhibition of prudence in taking decision to Yemen War earlier in this year show that the country has adopted pragmatism in foreign policy decision making

Umair Nasir
Dec 24, 2015 02:26pm

I totally support Pakistan's independent foreign policy but i do not believe Assad is the leader they should be supporting he has already destroyed half of his country and rest is not looking that much better either.Rather the move looks like a way to get closer to Russia-Iran .

Irfan Baloch
Dec 24, 2015 02:27pm

Wait for it Sartaj Aziz will say complete opposite and even offer to lead assault to topple Assad

divergence
Dec 24, 2015 02:27pm

That stance will further alienate Pakistan from the arabs, whose majority is against Bashar al Assad, although removing Assad will not bring any peace to Middle east.

Salma Shahid
Dec 24, 2015 02:28pm

Pakistan did not need to issue this statement and could have stood indifferent and non-aligned. By giving this statement, we have chosen sides and bracketed us with the Russian block thereby gone against our all time friends KSA and Turkey. I just wonder, if our foreign policy is now being driven the $46 bn CPEC too.

peace lover
Dec 24, 2015 02:33pm

Wise decision. Hope they will stick to that.

Shahnawaz Wardak
Dec 24, 2015 02:34pm

I was worried that we'll become a Saudi colony but Nawaz Shareef seem to be earning my respect here and on Karachi. Saudi wants to bring democracy to Syria, now thats the joke of the century.

Muhammad Altaf
Dec 24, 2015 02:34pm

I strongly disagree with Pakistan's neutrality stance. Pakistan foreign policy has now become hostage to so called liberals. Nobody in Senate or Parliament raised any questions regarding sending of volunteers from Pakistan by Iranian backed groups but when Pakistan was requested by Saudi Arabia for troops request for Yemen then lots hue and cry were raised by these so called Parlimantarians and commenting such involment as mercenaries. These Parlimantarians did not condemned Iranian open involvement in Syria and Iraq and even in Pakistan.

Ashfaq
Dec 24, 2015 02:36pm

Why people here saying Pakistan supporting Assad.Toppling Assad by force is something else and paving the way for a peaceful solution through peaceful means and originally by own people's support is another thing.Why you forget Libya and Iraq, who are suffering now from an endless wave of terror.

SYED
Dec 24, 2015 02:38pm

If this is coming from Nawaz Sharif, then its superb !! And if its coming from Army, then it was expected ! In either case; very sensible decision. May God Bless Pakistan !

Aneel Kumar Bachwani
Dec 24, 2015 02:38pm

That's no less than paradigm shift.

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 02:39pm

How can Arab countries or for that matter, any other country, decide whether Assad should continue or to be thrown out? Do not interfere or instigate people. The real people of Syria should decide.

Sidd
Dec 24, 2015 02:41pm

Bashar is a war criminal, his regime has killed thousands of Syrian and millions of them are displaced. Pakistan should have maintained its neutral stance, rather than tilting towards China and Iran.

Asif Kashmiri
Dec 24, 2015 02:42pm

Well Done Pakistan

Imtiaz Ali Khan
Dec 24, 2015 02:43pm

No more fights between Muslims, no more fights between Hindu/Muslims/Christians/Sikh/Jews etc., Enough said. We love Pakistan and our neighbors and we love all our brothers from all different faiths. This the Pakistan I know!

mirza
Dec 24, 2015 02:45pm

great decision tell the arabs to go and fight there own war

Dilectus
Dec 24, 2015 02:46pm

@salman - it is the west and US backed rebels who have butchered Syrians. Assad did what was necessary to avoid turning his country into another Iraq and Libya. Democracy cannot be forced on a society. People of Arabia are not ready for it.

mirza
Dec 24, 2015 02:48pm

see all the comments 90% are in favor of Pakistan staying away from any mess in middle east and that is great and prove we better keep our self to Pakistan period

k k tiwari
Dec 24, 2015 02:53pm

this way pakistan is inviting Saudi Arebia & UAE ire

divergence
Dec 24, 2015 02:54pm

That's a pragmatic approach to Syrian conflict by Pakistan. Pakistan still has a big mess to clean up on its own front.

Zain
Dec 24, 2015 02:55pm

Israel Saudi & USA dirty game against legitimate Syrian government.

gul
Dec 24, 2015 02:56pm

Remain steadfast with your stance Pakistan! Don't buy Saudi Arabia's vicious designs and never be part of it.

Rohail
Dec 24, 2015 03:00pm

Great move by Pakistan. We have sent strong message to so-called western allies (e.g. Turkey, US and many others). Pakistan should stay away from these oil hunger nations who are killing innocent people just to control their resources.

Adeel Shah
Dec 24, 2015 03:02pm

It's not a surprise, Pakistan has good terms with Assd Govt and before him with his father. It's always Pakistan Interest. I hope now the readers will now either In Saudi or Americans it's always our interest.

Moeen
Dec 24, 2015 03:02pm

Good decision, keep focus on your internal issues

Rohail
Dec 24, 2015 03:02pm

It's all about shifting of Pak Foreign Policy ... More Pro-Russia and Pro-China. Pak has learnt a lot from so-called friend and does not want to bit again.

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 03:07pm

@El Cid , Alliance is formed to solve the Saudi problems , but not Pakistani problems.

seemi
Dec 24, 2015 03:08pm

Good decision!

Aziz
Dec 24, 2015 03:09pm

@M. Malik

Dear Sir,

Converge of statements do not necessarily signify converge of interest. Pakistan has very different interests to Russians or Iranians. WE MUST remain neutral in this sad externally imposed and manipulated war.

Pakistan will be needed to a play a mediating role sooner than we anticipate. Remember, Pakistan mediated between China and USA in 1971.

Faraz
Dec 24, 2015 03:09pm

Its the need of the day. Good decision.

Asad
Dec 24, 2015 03:14pm

@omer khan shaheen PAKISTAN should act as a peace maker in his own country.

Fakhr
Dec 24, 2015 03:19pm

Very good and courageous step

Korpses
Dec 24, 2015 03:25pm

Please stop the bloodshed. No more foreign interference.

Shakeel
Dec 24, 2015 03:26pm

A shameful stance by GoP. Bashir Al Assad has killed hundreds of thousands of Syrian civilians, he is equally as barbaric as ISIS, the only difference between them is ideology.

Observer
Dec 24, 2015 03:26pm

I agree that Syrians themselves should be allowed to chose their own leader. Just a reminder that Assad was never elected leader of Syria and I do wonder if a leader has failed to prevent civil war in their own country then they surely have failed in the most basic responsibilities as head of government.

After so much death can Syria ever be united behind the man who is responsible for at least half of those deaths?

Eli
Dec 24, 2015 03:29pm

Proud to be a Pakistani

asad
Dec 24, 2015 03:32pm

that's why I love Gen Raheel

BK
Dec 24, 2015 03:32pm

@Faiz Khilji . Till now it was neutral. Now shifted to Syrian side like Russia. US and Europe on other side, including Saudi Arabia.

Hakim
Dec 24, 2015 03:35pm

We should never be party to any war. Now stand by the decision.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 03:38pm

@Mahmood We are not aligned with Iranian position on Syria. Its our own independent decision. By staying clear, doesn't mean we are favoring one on another. Both Iran and Saudi Arabia are neck deep in the mess called middle east. We are no longer in the business of clearing mess created by others. Let them deal with it.

BK
Dec 24, 2015 03:38pm

It is a good decision. Mr. Assad is the right choice for Syria. Democracy will not work in these countries. You see, Iraq, Libya, Egypt etc. till the time dictators were there, it functioned very smoothly. Once they toppled, complete destabilization took place. Dictators like Assad can only control those people. Mr. Saddam, Mr. Gadaffi, Mr. Mubarack etc, looks like harsh, but to control those countries such person required.

Ammar
Dec 24, 2015 03:38pm

Shame, that we are siding with a dictator responsible for killing about 300,000 of his own people, destroying almost half of his country, and displacing no less than 6 million people. Is his presidency more important than all this human suffering? Syrian revolution was the genuine feeling of the masses who felt oppressed by Bashar and his father's decades long rule

Shaukat Ali Khan
Dec 24, 2015 03:39pm

Great decision; feel proud of my government.

pakistani
Dec 24, 2015 03:42pm

Thank you foreign office for doing the right thing.

Human who loves Pak and India
Dec 24, 2015 03:44pm

Good .Keep this up.

Mahmood
Dec 24, 2015 03:45pm

@Taimoor Khan By opposing the toppling of Syrian regime, Pakistan is effectively in the Iranian camp, since is Iran's only trusted Arab ally, who extends Iranian influence to Lebanon and Hezbollah.

No matter what spin anyone puts on it.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 03:46pm

Welcome to new Pakistan. Those who are still living in delusion that Pakistan takes dictate from outsiders are living in fools paradise. Read this news with Saudi King statement where he blames Asad for IS rise, and things will become crystal clear. Signs are clear, on strategic and geopolitical chessboard, the new alliance of Pakistan, China and Russia is rising.

abdurrahman
Dec 24, 2015 03:47pm

Its not a neutral instance at all, if we need Pakistan to be Neutral, this Statement is never can be treated as Neutral form any point of view, its taking another side simply, how you can term it as Nuetral.... Yes..if Pakistan has to play a Nuetral Role... FP statement can be well designed in much better way that cannot harm the emotions of Pakistan's financially supporting friends at every hard time...Think again and again with a balanced mentality.... if you need to be neutral... you cant give a statement that hurts millions of Muslims.... around the world due to some bitter facts irrespective of who is playing whose game....

Need to look the history of the turmoil how it started..how it was cooking since decades and how it was reacted by this person over poor civilians of his own country.

lafanga
Dec 24, 2015 03:51pm

How is this a brave stand? A brave stand would be to either clearly side with the Saudis or Iranians or be above all and say we are with neither. Since Pakistan joined the Saudi led alliance, this statement is to counter that and show Iran that we are with you as well. Pakistan is in a difficult position and cannot afford to make enemies of Saudi Arabia or Iran so this is a natural statement given the circumstances but to say it is a bold stand would be false.

sbk
Dec 24, 2015 03:54pm

@Observer , Mistaken. In all Arab countries, experiment with democracy failed. See Iraq before and after Saddam. See Libya before and after Qaddafi. In Syria also, Assad became from bad to worse, only after other countries intervened. When other countries encouraged and armed so called moderates, then only Assad retaliated and the fight between moderates and Assad, lakhs of people got affected.

Ahad
Dec 24, 2015 03:54pm

So it means we are now part of the eastern axis of Russia, China, Iran etc. I don't think we are going to stick with that statement for long after the U.S remarks. Not that I would not like that.

Pakistan' s desirable foreign policy naturally leans towards the "eastern axis" but in reality (and practically) it shifts towards the western axis.

Alethia
Dec 24, 2015 03:57pm

Pakistan stands as leader of the Muslim world!

The interest of Pakistan and the interest of the ENTIRE Ummah shines brightly.

God bless Pakistan...

adnan
Dec 24, 2015 03:59pm

Neutrality was better than supporting Assad's regime. Assad must step down then middle east, rebels and whole world would be able to fully focus on IS.

Gustaakh
Dec 24, 2015 03:59pm

Finally, some courage in foreign policy !

K
Dec 24, 2015 04:02pm

Again we are taking sides and this time probably to please Russia..I suppose we will never learn how to stay aside neutral

Pakistani
Dec 24, 2015 04:03pm

Good stay away from them

Real Pakistani
Dec 24, 2015 04:04pm

Wrong move by Pakistan. Clearly Pakistan making a mistake. Assad has ordered his militias to kill thousands of innocents. His got Iranian troops who are also killing. He has used Chemical weapons. Pakistan should have condemned those atrocities by Assad regime. But no need to send troops to fight there.

M Akram
Dec 24, 2015 04:06pm

Bravo Pakistan. Green Shoots of independent foreign policy.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 04:07pm

@Mahmood Iran is a very small fish in the geopolitical chessboard. You really think Pakistan give two cents to Iranian position? We are adversaries in Afghanistan! Pakistan has shifted itself with regional/Euroasians powers namely, China and Russia. Chinese and Russian position on Syria is crystal clear. Pakistan does not see any benefit of staying in this American lead world block to which Gulf sheikdoms are part of. Post 9/11 events and its effects on Pakistan are ample proof of it.

Mutahir
Dec 24, 2015 04:11pm

Today, I am a proud Pakistani!!

This is how a courageous nation should be!!

No one should be allowed to bully sovereign nations. Enough of Saudi Bullying!!

Pakistan Zindabad!!

Elya
Dec 24, 2015 04:12pm

Excellent!

nasro
Dec 24, 2015 04:16pm

Very good....thats what Pakistan need....

Qasim
Dec 24, 2015 04:18pm

Great decision! appreciable.

Ashfaq
Dec 24, 2015 04:22pm

@Observer http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/bashar-al-assad-re-elected-syrian-president-20146419457810751.html I am not here to support Assad, but plz dont distort the facts, he was elected thrice good or bad, don't know but through majority vote not unlike those champions who are crying for the democratic rights of syrian people but in their own countries cant allow a free speech at any cost, that the hypocrisy..

Harsh
Dec 24, 2015 04:24pm

Finally you guys are beginning to realize that you are not slaves of Saudis or Turkey. As an Indian I appreciate this independent decision.

Ayaz Messam
Dec 24, 2015 04:26pm

We hope they will not say in tomorrow's news paper and in news headlines that we do not support such news which say we are against toppling Syrian President. As earlier the same foreign office said we are surprised for inclusion in 34 nation military block and on the next day they said we are part of this coalition and do not endorse such news that we are surprised.

Harsh
Dec 24, 2015 04:29pm

This decision is a clear shift in Pakistani policy of following Saudis and Turkey. Now you are firmly in the Iranian camp. That is good but Iran is known to exact its pound of flesh, they are business like and are not given to statements like 'iron brother' so be prepared to face the consequences.

YOUKNOWIMRIGHT
Dec 24, 2015 04:35pm

@salman and others slamming Asad for "butchering hundreds of thousands", have you so easily absolved all the opposition groups of fomenting rebellion and doing a lot of killing themselves. People who set out to topple government s through violence are just as culpable. Remember the old adage: it takes two to tango.

Iftikhar Husain
Dec 24, 2015 04:42pm

Pakistan is on the right track for not indulging in the division of Islamic countries and sending its forces to foreign lands.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 04:43pm

@Harsh Iran is a very small fish in the pound. A massive power like Pakistan really dont care about Iranian positions. See it in the new emerging Asian alliance of Pakistan-China-Russia and this will become crystal clear.

Ali Zaidi
Dec 24, 2015 04:45pm

Proud of you Pakistan.

Mushtaq Kazi
Dec 24, 2015 04:50pm

Big disappointment to me. Pakistan is backing a dictator. Wake up Pakistanis and start supporting democracies instead.

Sense
Dec 24, 2015 04:52pm

Finally sanity prevails

Munir
Dec 24, 2015 04:57pm

Absolutely right decision. Pakistan's interest first, rest afterwards.

M. Malik
Dec 24, 2015 04:57pm

@Taimoor Khan Pakistan, a massive power? The one which always has 'power' shortages? Where people die in the streets due to lack of water or because of heat stroke? Right!!

You need to study economics to compare countries, size of their budgets, size of export market, and potential of their populace to innovate and progress. What Iran has achieved despite crippling sanctions since 1979 is remarkable. Pakistan under similar sanctions would not have survived at all. So think again!

MAQSOOD AHMED
Dec 24, 2015 04:59pm

Great and wise decision taken by our leadership and widely in favor of our own benefits in future to keep good relations with brethren Muslim countries. so it is courageous decision.

Atif Khan
Dec 24, 2015 05:00pm

Pragmatic decision.

ISIS cannot be defeated until a strong Syria and Iraq exist.

Arif Durrani
Dec 24, 2015 05:10pm

Good Decision. Who are V to decide something for Syria. Should participate in Pecae Missions for Syria

Hamid
Dec 24, 2015 05:12pm

Bad policy. More and more we are siding with Iran.

ASK
Dec 24, 2015 05:14pm

Pakistan is amongst those very few countries which maintain a similar set of cordial & bilateral relations with Iran, Syria as well as with saudia. Hence Pakistan shall NOT side with any one of them BUT rather help the opposing factions to find a solution AND surprisingly Pakistan has now acquired the expertise of negotiations (through its own experiences) to find atleast proper strategies [if not final solutions] for its own international conflicts.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 05:15pm

People are clueless if they think its related to Iran. Pakistan has trampled Iranian interests in past specially in Afghanistan and can/will do again if needed be. This is all related to this new power block between Pakistan, China and Russia. Putin is expected to inaugurate the south north gas pipeline early next year. CPEC will not just extend to China but will go all the way to Russian huge markets. Who in right frame of mind in Pakistan will sacrifice all this for the sake of some far away conflict in distant land which Pakistan got nothing to do with at first place? People are also forgetting one very important point as to who is in power in Islamabad. Nawaz Shareef who is known to have personal ties with House of Saud and Raheel Shareef has been on several trips of Saudi Arabia. These two gents have never been to Iran in any capacity in recent times. Stakes are very high as far as Pakistan is concerned and to see it as Pakistan siding with Iran is a childish thinking.

Tekno Architect
Dec 24, 2015 05:18pm

Pakistan should now adopt a Pro-Russian & Pro-Chinesse policy. Times have changed and we should no longer support Pro-US or its allies. Pakistan should not support the house of Saud. They never created a alliance of larger nations to protect Bosnia, Chechniya, Kashmir, Palestine, Myanmar. The KSA already trades in the perto-dollar with the US,

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 05:20pm

@M. Malik Either you are clueless or not up to date with emerging new alliances. Why would Pakistan sacrifice its massive emerging economic/trade/energy ties with China and Russia through CPEC for some far distance conflict to which Iran is part of. Pakistan is now either world third or fourth biggest nuke power. Its a rule of jungle out their, who has got the biggest stick will rule, and thats the sad reality. Iran has been surving on its huge oil reserves so nothing brilliant to brag about. Pakistan has survived sanctions before as well , so nothing to brag about my friend.

Qasim Khan
Dec 24, 2015 05:21pm

@ Mushtaq Kazi stop being so naive. The West especially the US labels anyone they don't want in power as a dictator yet supports dictatorships everywhere else where business is good.

"The high participation rate (73%) in June’s (2014) presidential elections, despite the war, was at least as significant as the strong vote (88%) Bashar received. "

http://www.globalresearch.ca/why-syrians-support-bashar-al-assad/5405208

Skeptic
Dec 24, 2015 05:23pm

@Taimoor Khan Yes, Taimoor, you keep overlooking the fact that Iran is Russia's biggest client in the Middle East. By taking this stance, Pakistan is not only endorsing the Iranian position, but clearly signaling that Russia-Iran-Pakistan-China all stand to benefit from this position together. Don't confuse the readers by skipping this key fact. Pakistan therefore is not 'neutral' but in the Sino-Russian camp.

Mahmood
Dec 24, 2015 05:27pm

@Taimoor Khan Where are you getting your information from?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ListofforeigntripsofPrimeMinistersofPakistan

Just last year, NS led a delegation with Sartaj Aziz, Ishaq Dar, Khaqan Abbasi, Tariq Fatemi and Dr. Abdul Malik.

Ijaz
Dec 24, 2015 05:31pm

On the wrong side again!

Umer Salahuddin
Dec 24, 2015 05:36pm

No one knows what are the real intention of Saudi Arabia in the name of coalition.

annu naki
Dec 24, 2015 05:36pm

Good work, well done. The Arabs just want to use the Pakistanis as canon fodder.

saqib
Dec 24, 2015 05:42pm

I don't like Assad and wish to see him gone, but its good to see Pakistan taking an independent stance that it feels serves its own interests. It shows we are growing up, and less afraid to maintain independent policies that serve our own interests.

Taimoor Khan
Dec 24, 2015 05:44pm

@Skeptic Russia can have ties with tambakto or Iran, we in Pakistan care less. That is of absolutely zero interests to us. Pakistan is the fulcrum of CPEC. Take Pakistan out of it, it will all crumble down. With things heating up in South China Sea, with Russia feeling pressure on its western borders from NATO, and now issues with Turkey and its access to Bosporus, the CPEC is becoming of absolute vital importance for both Beijing and Moscow, for their access to warms waters of Arabian sea. Anyone who got slight idea of geography will understand this. This emerging geopolitical picture has propelled Pakistan into a major global stake holder, if its nuke power status was not enough! Iran is a very small fish in this.

Gustaakh
Dec 24, 2015 05:44pm

@Mahmood I disagree. This doesn't place Pakistan in "Iran's camp" rather it places Pakistan in line with India in terms of neutrality. It also aligns Pakistan with Russia, China and yes, also Iran in terms of supporting the current Syrian government. A savvy move to counter any impression that by joining the Saudi coalition, Pakistan will automatically support Saudi adventure in Syria. Also reinforces Pskistan's recent move away from the US and more towards Russia-China. Well done Pakistan !

Zulfiqar
Dec 24, 2015 05:48pm

Better option was to stay NEUTRAL. We don't have any economic or strategic linkages with Syria. We should stay out of this mess. Siding with any side in Syria will makes us enemies of either GCC or Iran.

Muzaffar Ali
Dec 24, 2015 05:50pm

Pakistan growing up!

Muzaffar Ali
Dec 24, 2015 05:50pm

Pakistan getting out of the Saudi shadow politics!

dawn
Dec 24, 2015 05:51pm

Thank you Pakistan-

Osmund Saddler
Dec 24, 2015 05:52pm

What a pathetic stance. A regime responsible for the death of 250,000 Syrians and the govt is just ok with it. A completely servile stance.

Qamer
Dec 24, 2015 06:01pm

Pakistan Zindabaad...

Azhar jamil
Dec 24, 2015 06:29pm

Sensible decision.

Safdar
Dec 24, 2015 06:35pm

Finally Pakistan is acting like an independent and a proud nation. Praises to our government.

Sachin
Dec 24, 2015 06:39pm

Sensible decision ...

khanm
Dec 24, 2015 06:43pm

Can you please elaborate what role are we going to play in Saudi military alliance...

Ali
Dec 24, 2015 06:51pm

Bravo Pakistan, keep the Gulf pressure off your head.

zeeshan husnain
Dec 24, 2015 06:57pm

Pakistan should remain non-aligned in Syrian Crisis in which Bashar Al Asad will emerge victorious InshaAllah.

Tariq
Dec 24, 2015 07:00pm

Great

wshaikh
Dec 24, 2015 07:03pm

A great news and big development in our Foreign Policy. We must have an independent Foreign policy that is fair, respect international laws and promote peace.

Mustafa R.
Dec 24, 2015 07:08pm

@AIK;

Who in the middle-east is not clinging to power un-democraticaly? The 50 year old Al-Assad dictatorship is the youngest dictatorship in the middle-east.

Ayub
Dec 24, 2015 07:15pm

Excellent! Pakistan should maintain its neutrality and should not become part any coalition that has been formed on sectarian lines.

breznev
Dec 24, 2015 07:17pm

@El Cid What about kurdistan

Muzaffar Ali
Dec 24, 2015 07:23pm

@Umer Salahuddin

We all know Saudi intention...Power and self preservation of their own family...it has nothing to do with the religious divide.

Mehtab
Dec 24, 2015 07:34pm

Rational stance.

Zohaib
Dec 24, 2015 07:37pm

Very bad policy. Unfortunately pakistan is choosing to side with a despot who killed thousands of his countrymen to stay in power and serve russian, iranian and israeli interests. Assaf must go. That is the only way for the resolution of the conflict.

waqas ahmed
Dec 24, 2015 07:38pm

Better late than never,at last the fo has learned not to poke its nose where it does not belong,its a good move, bcoz if we side with Saudi then our already estranged Shi'a neighbour will be further antagonized,and we don't want that

Mulazim hussain
Dec 24, 2015 07:38pm

Pakistan clarified its position to remain non-alighed between Saudi KSA and Iran. It is indeed a wise and just decision to be neutral in its foreign policy.

Saad
Dec 24, 2015 07:39pm

so finally Pakistani government truly represented the opinion of Pakistani public.

Pakistan isn't Saudi colony. It's Pakistani people & their aspirations who rule Pakistan.

We, Pakistanis, know that Pakistan and Syria are going through same phase and are facing similar challenges. Both nations are fighting foreign mercenaries & terrorists on their land. None is involved in bombing neighbors like Saudia did in Yemen. So ideologically we are more near to Syrian people in term of economic and political crises.

God bless peace loving nations! Long Live the People & Armies of Pakistan & Syria! Death to terrorists!

sachin
Dec 24, 2015 07:39pm

Previous neutral stand was better. Saudi and UAE will not be happy with this new stand.

raza
Dec 24, 2015 07:40pm

610 votes against pakistan's decision to keep away from herself out of war just shows that elements that created war on Afghanistan is still thriving within us. On the other hand, it is wise decision from our politicians and armed forces not to blindly follow any foreign dicdations.

shoukat sheikh
Dec 24, 2015 07:41pm

well done Pakistan.

sonibhash
Dec 24, 2015 07:46pm

good decision. Pakistan realised that IS is creation of USA and planning was to create trouble in Pakistan, India, China and Russia after establishing IS in north-east part of Afghanistan

Mehtab
Dec 24, 2015 07:50pm

We shouldn't be involved in Turkish Saudi mess in Syria. Good decision

sachin
Dec 24, 2015 07:51pm

No war anywhere for whatever reason. Peace, love and mind your own business should be the policy for a country like Pak and India. There are legitimate reasons for Western powers to intervene when any civil war or genocide happens. World cannot just stand and watch a dictator killing his own people. But the Western powers have the soft and hard power to do that. Our countries will create more mess for ourselves so should stay out.

fas
Dec 24, 2015 07:55pm

bold n correct decision

BRIJ
Dec 24, 2015 08:08pm

Pakistan's Foreign policy is now looking sensible.

zafar
Dec 24, 2015 08:27pm

@salman Spot on. How many in Pakistan are experts in the Syrian crisis. This is a totalitarian regime which is now using Russia to bomb its own people in the guise of terrorists. Why is half the Syrian population displaced and taking refuge somewhere in the world and causing a crisis in Europe and elsewhere. Why are 300,000 Syrians killed since 2010 long before ISIS. This is a crisis that does not have boundaries, and at the center of it all is Bashar refusing to accept reality.

independentthinker
Dec 24, 2015 08:37pm

In the meantime, we are letting Bashar Al-Assad massacre his opponents by the thousands! I guess the fact we follow the same practice in Pakistan, how can we object to others doing the same?

Common Man (Pak)
Dec 24, 2015 08:42pm

Good one!!

sidney
Dec 24, 2015 09:05pm

Right on Pakistan! Look at the disaster in the Arab world. The US and Britain were dumb to start regime change in Iraq and it has produced chaos and destruction. Then come Libya, which has fared equally badly. Now, the Yankees want Assad toppled and then will vanish to Washington and leave the Syrians to clean up. Meanwhile, Trump will accuse Muslims of all evil! Pakistan has learnt from their experience in Afghanistan

neutral
Dec 24, 2015 09:19pm

great decision. keeping neutral specially between saudia and iran and staying away from foreign conflicts is the best strategy for pakistan. it seems really wise after seeing saudi losses in yemen and high profile iranian losses in syria.

Sahil
Dec 24, 2015 10:00pm

It is Syrians to decide who should stay and who should go. Saudi /Turkey has no business to tell Assad should go. Good stance by Pakistan.

Naveed
Dec 24, 2015 10:11pm

First sensible statement, we need to keep neutral in this conflict.

Umar khan
Dec 24, 2015 10:19pm

Saudi Arabia can't use Sunnism to implement their own version of Islam . They can't hijack Sunni nations anymore with their wealth . We now know Saudi's plan very well.

Umar khan
Dec 24, 2015 10:26pm

It's time for brave Raheel to ask Al Saud to be out in Yemen and stop killing civilian . When Pakistani in Yemen wanted to come back home , so called Rebels but their lives in danger to give Pakistani civilian safe exit ...

Umar khan
Dec 24, 2015 10:34pm

I wonder who are these 792 people who actually oppose this Pakistani policy . I wonder what's wrong with them .

Riaz
Dec 25, 2015 12:09am

Today I am proud of being Pakistani. We should not be part of any conspiracy against any government or nation

aqdas
Dec 25, 2015 12:09am

And what was wrong with the neutral policy? Another stupid shift which will come to back to hurt Pakistan

Murtaza
Dec 25, 2015 12:18am

We must maintain our stance on this critical issue, adviser to PM must also criticize the role of Arab countries who are giving immense rise to the flames of war by supporting IS. Nevertheless this will one day burn their own shelters....

Syed Zafar Kazmi U.S.A
Dec 25, 2015 12:21am

@khurram It's no bashing of Saudi at all. It is in fact a matter of Pakistan's sovereignty and independence of unsolicited meddling in its affairs. Pakistan needs meaningful alliances; what Saudi has given to this country is only the menace of terrorism through its funding of Madreassahs.

Taha
Dec 25, 2015 12:30am

@Faiz Khilji Pak was neutral (indifferent) earlier, now it's against toppling the Assad regime and clearly siding against Saudi Arabia. Kudos to that!

Indian
Dec 25, 2015 12:38am

@Taimoor Khan Just for the sake of small fish , Iran's GDP 460 Billion dollars with sanctions, and Pakistan's GDP 240 Billion dollars.

Zafar
Dec 25, 2015 12:38am

@Dilectus Syrian cities are in ruins, nearly wiped out, a result of massive aerial bombardment, cluster bombs and what not. To add insult to injury, it is now the Russians who are using their might and firepower on the same cities. And you think it is the west responsible for it? Mind you, it is the Europeans who are providing refuge to the Syrians fleeing, besides Turkey and Jordan.

Roozi Ali
Dec 25, 2015 01:06am

Pakistan stance is a principled once in line with international law and respecting national sovereignty of Syria. The solution to Syrian crisis should through a political one led by Syrians them self. Regime change plans of certain powers and regional countries through all means including funding and backing of terrorists is not acceptable at all. Fate of Syrian government should be decided by Syrians only.

Mutahir
Dec 25, 2015 01:11am

If Pakistan is supporting Asad, then in reality they are not part of this so called "Alliance" because Saudi's (supposed "leader" of the alliance") primary policy in the fight against terrorism is to remove Asad from power.

Long Live Pakistan for this independent and courageous stance!!

mohamad USA
Dec 25, 2015 01:28am

Russia gets a solid Nuclear ally Pakistan. Smart strategic move.

sami shahid
Dec 25, 2015 01:42am

Pakistan's stance over Syrian conflict is perfect....but joining a joint Muslim anti-terror force can be very helpful for the other Muslim countries like Syria and Iraq.

Syed Meerza
Dec 25, 2015 02:07am

Good that Aizaz chaudhry has given a clear verdict about Pakistan remaining neutral.But we want this policy statement to come out from Nawaz sharif's mouth. Unless and until Nawaz Sharif himself declares the neutrality policy, doubt will still remain about clear cut policy with respect to the present scenario where Saudi Arabia will keep its pressure building up on Nawaz Sharif. After all they have lot of money to through here and there to gain support from all quarters.

Doc PhD USANo
Dec 25, 2015 02:16am

On the top level it may be Ok not to support to topple Bashar Al-asad but is it Ok that he has committed genocide by killing more than 150,000 of his own people? It means it's Ok to be a dictator / hitler and the whole world stays silent when a dictator massacres his coutrymen, women, and children. Saddam Hussein did not kill and massacre like Bashar and the west destroyed Iraq and went after Saddam and rooted him out. Pakistan must be absolutely clear and condemn and raise their dire and utmost concerns to stop the genocide in Syria. I say to the world, Bashar MUST GO and GO NOW.

flipflop
Dec 25, 2015 02:49am

Good step by Pakistan. Peace can never be achieved through oppression, but rather through dialogue.

TALAS
Dec 25, 2015 03:30am

How could Pakistan stands by a Dictator how has already killed hundreds of thousands of its own country men.

flying star
Dec 25, 2015 03:40am

proud on your decision Pakistan keep strong and plz dont succumb to pressure ,

rockies110
Dec 25, 2015 03:42am

To all those talking against Assad, enlighten yourself and see how many terrorists, who are not from Syria, are fighting other countries war in Syria. Assad just did and still is, retaliating to save his country from falling into the hands of these mercenaries. If there is any change required, its in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey.

ss
Dec 25, 2015 03:54am

Wonder why the government felt the need to issue such a statement. In these matters, it is best to remain silent.

Mustafa R.
Dec 25, 2015 03:55am

@Zohaib;

Assad serving Israeli interest?? Hahahahahaha. This conspiracy theory takes the cake. If Israel was ever defeated it was at the hands of Hizbullah.

Ahsan Shah
Dec 25, 2015 05:11am

Great decision

Pl leave Saudi camp as well

Jugnu
Dec 25, 2015 05:16am

India also has same position

SUNIL
Dec 25, 2015 06:14am

A wise decision.

Pakistan appears determined not to play puppet in hands of other powers

saber
Dec 25, 2015 09:15am

Present Syria govt openly support Pakistan on Kashmir stance.....

Kalashnikov
Dec 25, 2015 09:33am

Supporting Assad will not provide peace in Syria . Syria will be divided and will not have Assad at th helm of affairs . The rising force in the Middle East are the Kurds. A new Kurdistan will be formed by carving parts of Syria ,Iraq and Turkey . Iran will not be able to keep Assad there much longer .

Shiraj
Dec 25, 2015 10:03am

This is right thing to do. Pakistan cannot be chaudhry.

Ahad Khan
Dec 25, 2015 12:17pm

@El Cid I like the rhetoric, but there are some serious problems.

1) Saudia Arabia makes up most of our diaspora and remittance.

2) America is our biggest exporter. And holds a big chunk of our diaspora.

So before taking blunt action, we have to be in a position where we can face the reprecussions

MBH
Dec 25, 2015 12:31pm

This is a very wise decision. I am truly liking NS decision on the foreign policy matters.

ather khan
Dec 25, 2015 12:41pm

This is the right policy. pk should nt get involved in the sectarian war between Saudi and Iran. By namesake joining of Saudi club but declaring Assad is the legitimate leader pk has cleverly neutralized it's position. Intelligent decision by pak army.

Faisal
Dec 25, 2015 03:24pm

Finall,pakistan has taken decision which is better for her at this situation.Good to learn from old mistakes coliation with US led war in Afghanistan.Credit goes to ISPR to make decision not to send forces outside the country.

Syed
Dec 25, 2015 05:16pm

@divergence So what is exactly bad in this whole situation?

Sajjad Khan
Dec 25, 2015 05:57pm

And what about the Iranian and Hizbullah support for an Alawite minority regime since decades, imposed on the Sunni majority population?

A. Mangal
Dec 25, 2015 08:31pm

Excellent position taken by Pakistan!

A. Mangal
Dec 25, 2015 10:17pm

@Sajjad Khan. That doesn't condone to have a regime change game plan. Asad has not committed genocide as opposed to what happened with fake war of regime change game plan in Iraq? Look at Yemen, do you think Saudi's will be successful after killing civilians in daily bombing? It's grossly wrong to attack a sovereign country by another.

Kevin Smith
Dec 25, 2015 10:27pm

Well done Pakistan.

Surprised to hear this. We need more states to say the same.

Syria one of the few remaining secular countries left. If that and Iraq goes, Europe is next. Someone please try and tell dopey Obama that.

niju
Dec 25, 2015 11:17pm

this is a courageous move fromthe Pakistan and get out of this aid slave policy of western and Arabs and join hands with its south Asian counterparts and make this region strongest in the world

fasiha
Dec 25, 2015 11:40pm

well done pakistan.saudi arab cant dictate us.

Sarwat
Dec 25, 2015 11:47pm

Well done Pakistan.

Dawood
Dec 26, 2015 02:51am

@Faiz Khilji Pakistan did not side with Assad nor did we stand against him. Now, we stand with him. This is how the policy has shifted.

Saad
Dec 26, 2015 07:31am

Admirable stand but wrong era. At a time when Pakistan's influence with the West non-existent, Pak at least, needs the Arabs on its side. China has always been a fringe player and has never come forward in a crisis.

Sarwat
Dec 26, 2015 08:46am

@Hamid What a silly thing to say. Grow up, Pakistan first and foremost.

Mumtaz
Dec 26, 2015 09:53am

idiotic stance!!!Adad rule is at the verge of collapse. In Rome do as Romian. Stand side by side with Arabic world which want Asad to step down by any mean.

AYAZ MESSAM
Dec 26, 2015 10:04am

@saqib you dont like him? if a citizen of x country does not like our elected govt head nawaz sharif that means nawaz sharif should go? its upto syrians to decide fate of Basharul Assad nor saudi, nor american, nor israelis nor any coalition outside syria nor any jaish.

Taimur Khan
Dec 26, 2015 10:46am

This stance of the Pakistan government is commendable, as it maintains balance besides strongly emphasizing the need for a peaceful and equitable solution to the Syrian crisis. Pakistan must NOT commit its military forces in the unfortunate war, which has brought so much misery to our Muslim brethren in the once beautiful and progressive country.

Mustafa R.
Dec 26, 2015 12:27pm

@Jugnu;

'India also has same position'

India doesn't matter in the middle-east.

Mustafa R.
Dec 26, 2015 12:33pm

@salman;

'After having butchered hundreds of thousands of his country men'

ISIS is not composed of Assad's countrymen.

Mustafa R.
Dec 26, 2015 12:45pm

@Observer;

'Assad was never elected leader of Syria'

Assad did hold elections in Syria last year. As Pakistanis know very well, the credibility of an elections are in the eye of the beholder. There are no powers involved in this conflict who have any history whatsoever of accepting an electoral defeat.

Kabeer
Dec 26, 2015 01:55pm

I am really encouraged by the comments of majority of people these comments show the political maturity of Pakistanis

abdulhamied
Dec 26, 2015 04:16pm

Well said Saudi cannot be trusted

sb
Dec 27, 2015 12:15am

Bravo, nice step.