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Osama’s or Obama’s Pakistan?

Updated Jan 06, 2014 04:54pm


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In the aftermath of the American military action that killed Osama bin Laden, the debate in Pakistan has decisively shifted to the violation of Pakistan’s sovereignty by the US, as was perhaps expected. The big question as to why the world’s most wanted terrorist was found here in the first place has all but disappeared from the national radar. Once again the nation is found dozing off at a time when hectic and earnest efforts are needed to inquire into the matter that can bring Pakistan to the centre stage of the US-led ‘war on terror’.

Let’s face it: it is less about our sovereignty and more about accountability to the people of Pakistan and to the international community. If we have terrorists with global linkages living in and working out of Pakistan unbeknown to our otherwise menacing security agencies and we don’t get on their trail, the US (and others) will. The outrage here should have been over the fact that bin Laden was living here for the past many years undetected, and not over who took him out with the least collateral damage caused to Pakistan in the process.

It is still not past the time when the war against terrorism should be owned and called our own battle. Terrorism has killed and maimed more Pakistanis than any other nation anywhere in the world since 9/11, but there isn’t much we done about it. For instance, how many terrorists are apprehended by our law enforcement agencies and brought to justice? Our security forces can find and kill an octogenarian Baloch leader hiding in a cave because he and a handful of his close associates had defied a general but they cannot be commissioned to nab the terrorists who have attacked the armed forces, the police and innocent citizens alike. They have not even spared our dead ones and attacked the shrines regularly. This is simply beyond comprehension.

Even in those rare cases when terrorists are apprehended, the police have failed to build a strong prosecution case against them and the courts have had to let them walk free for lack of evidence. Not only that, known and dreaded militants and hijackers wanted by India and others, the entire Islamabad Lal Masjid brigade and the likes, are free citizens who do not operate out of their mountain hideouts but are allowed to disseminate their hate-filled agenda in the cities and towns across the land.

Banning outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jamaatud Dawa, Jandullah, Jaish-i-Mohammed, Lashkar-i-Jhangvi and so many others, which openly brook sympathy for al Qaeda and its global terrorist agenda, has not made their leadership run for cover. Far from it. They are free to preach, train and plan attacks across Pakistan, and perhaps elsewhere. Does any other country provide hate-mongers such an open platform from which to operate?

Then, there are tiers of extremist elements that are well tolerated by the state. A majority of these comprise homegrown militants and not runaway fugitives from their home countries. It starts right there in our parliament where MPs belonging to rightwing parties derail all and any debate on curbing extremism. The PML-Q leaders protected the Lal Masjid militants after Musharraf’s action against them, and even announced lifetime scholarships for their upkeep; Mullah Fazlullah of Swat and his Taliban commanders are at large. The PML-N leaders have known allies among extremist elements in southern Punjab, the hotbed of Punjabi Taliban and the like. Both the parties deny the existence of Punjabi Taliban, thereby protecting such elements and their identities from public scrutiny. Imran Khan’s PTI disowns the ‘war on terror’ altogether, calling the tribal jihadists patriotic Pakistanis who have made many sacrifices in the past.

The presence of the religious parties and their stance in parliament is blatant. There are no subtleties involved in deciphering their views on the raging extremism. The JUI and the Jamaat-i-Islami vehemently demand that Pakistan opt out of the partnership with America in its fight against terrorism. The JUI MPs condemned the killing of bin Laden in most unequivocal terms and led protest rallies. Others offered funeral prayers for him in the streets of this country.

Rightist elements also man the airwaves of Pakistan’s independent media. Obscurantist talk show hosts and lecturers holding forth on geo-political affairs is the norm on TV. Over the years so much ground has been ceded to extremists that their spin doctoring of issues has now become the mainstream discourse in the media. It is an environment where global thought patterns in interpreting current affairs are rejected and logical debates and discourses snubbed. Xenophobia in regard to the rest of the world envelopes most national discourse. Issues are twisted beyond recognition, and imagination is allowed to run wild, which brings into spotlight nothing but Pakistan’s enemies surrounding it from all sides.

This victim mindset that we continue to nurture by evading the real problem of extremism and not doing anything about it, places us at the mercy of the Osamas and the Obamas of the world. It is a free country for either to beat down upon, as a meek government and a powerful military establishment look the other way.

Fortified and ensconced in the safety net of the security apparatus that both the civil and military leadership is, it is hard to understand why the leadership should not own and fight the war of Pakistan’s survival against extremism with full force of the state. Complacence is a respectable word for it implies that a conscious choice has been made; ‘free for all’ is more likely what is at work here.

The writer is a Dawn staffer

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Balakrisna May 11, 2011 12:18pm
An excellent analysis which put the failures of the present Pakistani government on war on terror in a nutshell. Hope the law makers read it. The path of extremism is dark and there is no future for the country. Pakistan deserves a better deal than pushing the country in to an unending failed state! Besides the points mentioned above, the law makers should make an effort to rejuvenate the education throughout the country in order to improve the lives of the people. Even today, there is a majority of right thinking peace loving moderate Muslims in Pakistan who have been overshadowed by a small group of extremists.
Srinivas May 11, 2011 12:43pm
The would-be suicide bomber who was caught alive in a shrine confessed that he had been told that he was trained to kill 'kaafirs'. But when he was being sent to the mazaar - he protested but was told that the people who go to the mazaars are worse than 'kaafirs'. It should have been an eye-opener to the Pak Administration. This has proved time and time again and the result is for all to see - Pakistan has the highest number of persons killed in terrorism related incidents.
Sana May 11, 2011 12:48pm
Ihave not read a better article in ages!!...Thankyou for sensible journalism!
Adil May 11, 2011 01:03pm
Amazingly insightful article and I couldn't agree more. Watching the Pakistani discussion programmes on various channels available here in the UK, I am amazed at how the most important points of discussion have been twisted and yet others even totally ignored, so that he viewer is inclined to think that the only issues really relevant are whether USA is lying about Bin Laden and why the operaton was allowed to take place in the first place. As you stated in your article, here's nothing about the most blatant fact that Bin Laden was living a mere 10 minute walk from the PMA for the last five years, with his inummerable wives and children - in a huge mansion with various army officers and institutions for neighbours, while the whole world is hunting for the most wanted man in the last 10 years! That seems to be a moot point, irrelevant and something only a silly little child would want to talk about. I would beg to differ, and I would hope there are many others like me - or we are in serious denial, and even worse trouble.
a khan May 11, 2011 01:05pm
No global law makes pakistan responsible for a guy holed up in ahouse without Pakistan's permission or knowledge. The senseless US rhetoric of Pakistan somehow being involved shouldnt detract us from the fact that President obama, for his own political benefit, violated pakistan's sovriegnty, put his own troops in danger and acted against all international laws that night. If pakistan can be trusted for eliminating 100+ functional alqaeda, who were guarded and armed, than pakistan could have been trusted with tackling a retired unarmed terrorist also. ofcourse, that wouldnt have generated the "situation room photo" which is now going to win obama his next elections from his constituency.
bpshah May 11, 2011 01:09pm
Excellent article with accurate analysis..... I have been reading Dawn very regularly & am a fan of NFP,Mr. Kamran Shafi, Mr. Irfan Hussain, Ms. Ayesha Sidiqui, Ms. Sana Saleem and now your name is added.Politicians in subcontinent take very many short cuts & populist measures to remain afloat and thus disregarding the country's future. Your article brings out that point very well. They play upon the victime mindset & inflame their constituents. This happens everywhere, but unfortunately in Pakistan it turns very easily into violence. Let us hope that people will get tired of this incessant violence & face the facts & decide what is good for them. & a leader emerge who can give expression to this desire of people to have peace.
apra jekel May 11, 2011 01:14pm
Hats off for the writer of the fairest newspaper both in india and Pakistan . Job done well !!
Ahmed Mustafa Kanjoo May 11, 2011 01:21pm
“The outrage here should have been over the fact that bin Laden was living here for the past many years undetected,” Something is missing in article and is needed very much to be illuminated on every media this very moment. Who was supposed to detect them? Whose job is to do such a work? Are they inept to there job? If so where is over 80% of budget going?
dksr May 11, 2011 01:30pm
If every Pakistani citizen thinks like this, it will be heaven on Earth. I feel pity for this country, I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. For this country anything done in the name of God or religion (be it killing people etc) is right. May God save the country if he is out there.
Sheri May 11, 2011 02:35pm
Four MPs, two from JUI-F, one each from PML-Q and PPP offered prayers for Osama during a session of parliament on Tuesday despite the speaker not allowing them the move. What more do we need to establish sympathy for extremism that is found among the very people who are asked to do something to tackle it?
Pakistani May 11, 2011 02:57pm
Pakistan Zindabad!
Irfan Husain May 11, 2011 02:59pm
Very clear thinking and sharp analysis.
Zahid Khan May 11, 2011 03:00pm
Americ's clear message to Pakistan: "Want Aid, will Raid"
SATEJ KHADSE May 11, 2011 03:19pm
Faheem May 11, 2011 03:43pm
asif May 11, 2011 03:49pm
There is nothing about terrorism in pakistan to flourish-but a universal game that will never ever be over! the reason is , illeteracy, religious enviorment, and illegal ruling since past 10 decades.
usman May 11, 2011 03:52pm
The author had said "The PML-N leaders have known allies among extremist elements in southern Punjab". Author didn't gave any prove but tries to malign PML-N.
Nikhat May 11, 2011 03:53pm
"Retired unarmed Terrorist"...what's that???
Dave May 11, 2011 03:58pm
OBL wasn't murdered in Abbotabad. The whole story is a lie.
krishna prasad May 11, 2011 03:59pm
Pakistanis, Indians and the world needs people and the citizens like you to bring out the realities that exist within Pakistan to wake-up the dormant citizens/political leaders/army and other state agencies. Analyse within yourself and you will find the answer. Ask a question with complete honesty and the citizens would come forward to pitch in and solve it. Evading, dodging and procrastinating are not the hall marks of a good government. Let this be a wake-up call for all pakistanis to do their bit in salvaging the diginity and honour of this country which they should equally be proud of.
Abdulla Leeman Zahir May 11, 2011 04:12pm
Dawn is a respected newspaper and voice enlightened opinions. The country is getting doomed by these rogue and militant elements. People at large has to break the silence, come out en mass on streets of the country and clearly voice their support for non violence and elimination of terrorism and militancy. Government must be told in clear terms that Pakistani people need continuing peace, harmony, modern education for all, economic development, equal human rights for women, protection of rights of child, women and aged, right of and a clear image of a civilized nation in the world. President Musharaf may have agreed with Bush to allow him to raid in Pakistan if Osama etc. are found here - just to save the country from catastrophe as faced by Iraq etc. oterwise USA may have bombed the entire country as did it in Iraq and Afghanistan. Let us stop India bashing and be Pakistan development centric .
Usman Shahid May 11, 2011 04:18pm
‎ Until it is not proved that really Osama was there, question of how osama was there is totally irrelevent.
Malay May 11, 2011 04:43pm
It is religious intolerance, not enviorment.
adil May 11, 2011 04:54pm
And thats the problem right there....You know all countries of the world 1) consider Osama a terrorist and architect of 9/11 2) Believe he was found and killed in Pakistan. So your POV is that with the exception of some ill informed Pakistani's the WHOLE WORLD and their relevant agencies have been fooled into following US propaganda?
Nadeem Ahmed May 11, 2011 05:12pm
One of the best analysis of current situation..Bottom line is, "Free for all".
Aamenah May 11, 2011 05:17pm
Our security agencies have been picking up and disappearing random people over the years, while the godfather of all terrorists went undetected. Some serious investigations are required.
Usman Shahid May 11, 2011 05:28pm
We don't care that world is made fooled by US or not but we know that not showing the body creates doubt, dumping the body in the sea so early creates doubt. When there is so many doubts how can we treat it as a fact. For a fact, it should look like a fact without any doubt. When american will show clear picture and remove all doubts this will be treated as fact
Usman Shahid May 11, 2011 05:45pm
I don't know to whom you called Godfather of all terrorists. About Osama, it is still doubtful that he was there. The only fact we have is that our forces were unable to detect americans that day, This should be investigated why this happen
Ahmed May 11, 2011 05:46pm
Exactly! Serious and swift investigations are required. As I said already: Who was suppose to detect them? Whose job is to do such a work? Are they inept to there job?
iqbal aslam May 11, 2011 05:54pm
you seem to be the only person on earth who thinks OBL is still alive. i don't need to see 3000 killed by OBL's team in NY to know they are dead. but if you believe OBL is alive why don't you prove it?
Dr.Ishwar May 11, 2011 06:29pm
Excellent , Analytical, Brave, Truthful eyeopener. I have always believed that all serious evolving democracies need intellectual, fair minded God fearing honest souls like Murtaza Razvi. He has brought to the fore the present day reality of Pakistan. May God Bless you with a steady mind to write articles like this in the future without fear and open up the minds of millions of people. You are the true Muslim. And we need more and more people like you both in Pakistan and India - for that matter all over the world. Very lucid and clear style of writing.
GoodDeeds May 11, 2011 07:01pm
Pakistan should not complain about America violating its sovereignty because Pakistan gave various kind of access to Americans like bases for logistics, emergency; surgical strikes with drones. Under the circumstance, Pakistan should instead appreciate Americans helped them out to do the job without collateral damage, which they could not detect & do it despite all the effort.
Ahmed Akhtar from Pa May 11, 2011 07:26pm
Abdulla you are right on many fronts.
Mike May 11, 2011 07:59pm
Aid is a weapon being used by the US of A to subjugate Pakistan and make it forever dependent on it. It is high time Pakistan saw through this conspiracy. Its high time it learned to stand on its own feet instead of prostrating before America. If Pakistan wants to become a great nation it should banish all forms of extremism, concentrate on strengthening its institutions, spending more on education and health care by reducing the defence spending, concentrate on improving the economy, and as I mentioned before, reduce its dependence on America's doles. But I think all this is too much to ask for. Pakistan's will always remain a lame duck government so long as the Army is in power, which it is. Democracy in Pakistan is a sham. But who's going to reign in the Army? Certainly not the current crop of politicians. What's required is people's power!
Yogesh May 11, 2011 08:11pm
Do you think US is obliged to clear your doubts ? Don't indulge in so much self importance.
M. Malik May 11, 2011 08:12pm
The whole world is bent on shifting the blame onto Pakistan, which has been the largest victim of terrorism at home, since the so-called 'War on Terror' was launched. The world needs to ask the most important question of the lhe mighty US intelligency networks, why 9/11 even occured on their watch? And why weremn't any US figher jets were scrambled to intercept the hijacked airliners over US airspace that day? For 20 minutes four passenger jets were used as missiles on four different targets, but not a single airforce jet was able to detect or intercept them? Why did the CIA and FBI failed that day, when all the alleged hijackers were present on US soil for weeks before 9/11 plan was executed? I've yet to hear an acceptable explanation of this debacle!
mpsn May 11, 2011 08:20pm
Why not ask Osama's wives and children who are still in custody of Pakistani authorities? Are they all lying too or they don't know who they have been living with?
Farj May 11, 2011 08:51pm
A brilliant article! The best bit is all the comments being given against the article are actually proving the point stated in it!!
rehmat May 11, 2011 08:56pm
The army and ISI and Al Qaeda haev all admitted that Osama was kiled. So the only way that whole tyhing could be a 'drama' is if army and ISI are also lying. Do you that is so?
Farj May 11, 2011 08:57pm
How aptly u r proving the author right. Whether anyone believe's it or not doesn't matter. His family was caught, Al Qaeda has acknowledged it, taleban(afghani n pakistani) have acknowledged it, no 'resurrection' of the beloved OBL is seen but if ppl still want to remain adamant on one point reg the body, they wont be convinced by the photos either. Obv cuz the photos can easily be doctored and faked.
rehmat May 11, 2011 08:58pm
SO why does your army and ISI and government agree that Osama was killed? Are they part of the drama too? Al Qaeda too agreed that he was kiled and TTP said they wil take revenge. If Osama wasn't there, why are all these people saying that?
aysha May 11, 2011 09:08pm
Usman sahab, wake up. Let me ask you this, did pakistani govt deny Osama was not in Pakistan??? If he was not there, would Pakistan take the blame of him there?
anyone May 11, 2011 09:10pm
bhai, why dont u ask the people left behind in that compound, his widows
anyone May 11, 2011 09:13pm
u got to earn trust buddy, I wouldnt trust Pakistani leaders too and I am sure u neither
Bahadur May 11, 2011 09:25pm
Very well written. One of the best opinions coming out from Pakistan after the killing of OBL.
Sunil Gaikwad May 11, 2011 09:33pm
Initially I too believed that US was fooling, BUT what about the interrogation which ISI took from his(Osama) wife and kids how were holed at the same place? Why ISI is not coming up with any answers ? Do they really have any to prove that what US is saying is wrong ??
jssidhoo May 11, 2011 09:46pm
'Let us stop India bashing and be Pakistan development centric " neither India nor Pakistan are perfect but we are neighbors and our prosperity and well being are LINKED. We can not afford to be enemies just see how poor we are after 63 yrs of being independent
haroon May 11, 2011 10:08pm
Can't agree more. This is a wonderful article, a real eye opener. Thank you Murtaza Razvi. Can this be translated to Urdu and published in some Urdu newspapers too?
S S May 11, 2011 10:42pm
How about accepting that OBL's wife and daughter confirming to authorities in Pakistan that OBL has been indeed killed in the operations of US Navy Seal. But I guess, this is just another propoganda by the authories in Pakistan, who are happy to corraborate what USA has claimed. Shame on being so naive...... and ignorent. Nothing will convince you - the picture will be doctored and if not, the person is a duplicate look alike etc....
Mubarak May 11, 2011 10:45pm
"The result is for all to see – Pakistan has the highest number of persons killed in terrorism related incidents." It is not bad at all, at least we are number one in some thing.
stardust May 11, 2011 10:54pm
The US knows, to its own satisfaction, what they have accomplished by this raid into Pakistani territory. The doubters can doubt all they want, the US doesn't need to prove it to anybody; they don't owe anyone any explanation. When the US did not even inform Pakistani authorities that they were about to violate Pakistan's territorial sovereignty, why do you think the US cares what the Pakistanis think or believe now, after it's all done.
Can't help but May 11, 2011 11:15pm
So, does presence of Osama's wife and sons and their assertions that he was killed still create doubt? Does the interrogation and statement provided by Osama's family to the agency still create doubt ? Do you doubt the agency and army now? In that case, even a photograph cannot convince you if real people's testimony can't. Anyways, photos can be easily doctored so I guess you are asking for them so that you can then reject them as fake...Nice going :)
Nurmomad May 12, 2011 12:07am
I think the option is quite clear. It should neither be Obama's nor Osama's. Pakistan, if it has to survive and grow, will have be of the Pakistani people, most admirably that of the poor.
haroon May 12, 2011 12:22am
Pakistan has Osama's three wives who saw Bin Ladin killed. What more proof you want?
Amit May 12, 2011 01:55am
Dear Sir I congratulate you for being one and only sane voice in present situation in Pakistan. I am an Indian and living in US and I want India and Pakistan to live together peacefully. I did an experiment and started reading and watching Pakistan media. To my horror, I found in Pakistan, everywhere people live in denial, extremists view are respected and propagated. They don't believe on what world believes and always have some conspiracy theory up the sleeve to deny the truth. There is so much self praise on everything without looking at the reality. In present situation, also they have so many versions of conspiracy theories. I hope and pray to God that more people like you are being heard and appreciated so that Pakistan emerges from the clutches of terrorism. This situation would be good for Pakistan, India, US and everyone in this world. Thanks
karnatakan May 12, 2011 03:58am
Usman Sahib: It is also a cultural thing. US media does not normally show faces of dead people or grievous injuries. For example not a single body killed at the WTC was shown as a picture. There were a few exceptions such as Saddam's son's and Zarkawi's by the Bush administration, and this had been commented upon at that time.
numbersnumbers May 12, 2011 06:32am
Wrong, if the Americans released the pictures we would just have another round of conspiracy theories as to how the Americans faked the pictures.
Saadia May 12, 2011 06:49am
Why must you see something to believe it? Suppose US is lying, because we never 'saw' the body. What do you think the likes of Osama will do? Don't you think he will be the first one to turn up on TV and show the world he is 'still' alive and US is WRONG! Where is he? I don't see Osama. America does not have to show anyone a picture. Besides, Pakistani's famous conspiracy theorists will claim the picture is fabricated! No one is ever satisfied in these situations...
numbersnumbers May 12, 2011 06:57am
The fact that Osama bin Laden (and company) was able to live undetected in Abbotabad, a mere 800 or so meters from Pakistan’s premier military academy, for the past 5 plus years is hard to believe. Let us start with this being a military town, with various army training facilities, along with many current and retired senior army officers. As such, security issues required every citizen to have identity cards and such just to live there. Now add to this the suspicions about who really lived in the bin Laden compound by neighbors and merchants, since the occupants appear to have never mingled or partictipated in social or charity events. If neighbors and such were curious, and this curiosity being discussed around the area, would not the security services be alerted to this odd compound, with no phone or internet service, and yet logistically requiring yearly food and drink supplies for some twenty plus individuals who do not seem to exist!
IK May 12, 2011 07:27am
People like you deny Osama`s death in Pakistan, but then condemn USA Agents meeting Osama`s wives (who confirmed Osam`s death). & even if video`s of Osama`s death is shown, you still wont believe. Decades of Conspiracy Theories, radical preaching have a great influence.
Jay May 12, 2011 07:41am
Well said! Younger generation needs to fight for their rights and take control of the country before it is totally unlivable for the "Aam Aadmi". Present leaders are not trustworthy, they would deny all their shameful decisions. So many training camps exist - and for what? Just to protect Government's inability to run the country in a way a civilized country Pakistan's people deserve!! Good luck!!
Yogendra May 12, 2011 08:06am
Osama's son has declared that his father is dead. Osama's wives have said he is no more. Obama has declared that Osama is no longer going to walk on the face of the earth. So I think it does establish beyond a reasonable doubt that he was very much present at the compound at Abbotabad and is now dead. I think the Pakistani awam now have a real chance to force a change in the way country is being governed. Am sure that whatever an aadmi ther feels about america, India or the world, am sure they want a decent living and dignity for self and the country. So, they should mobilize to enough pressure to have the authorities get rid of killers - does not matter whether they killed the Americans or the Indians or the Pakistanis.
Indian May 12, 2011 08:52am
Pakistanis need to learn from Indian society. Culturally Indians & Pakistanis are the same but why so vast difference between the two socities. The reason is Indians are secular by mindset. Hindusn may sometime resent the minority appeasement but by & large Indians would not deny others including minorities a rightful share in the nationhood. It is becuase India has been secular thru the ages that India has survived over centuries. Come to think of it even the Afghans & Mopala muslims who settled here absorbed this culture of tolerance and became secular rulers.
trustme May 12, 2011 09:26am
Let’s face it. Everyone involved be it politicians, security staff or even the highest ranking military officer are human beings. They have a job to do, but at the same time they have a family and a life. By openly going against the terrorists they could endanger their own lives and their families. I can understand if even courageous people like Imran khan don’t speak out against the terrorists. Fears of you own life can dictate your words and actions. This fear is acceptable among human beings, I am not saying these men are cowards, indeed they may be brave human beings in their own way. No one wants to die unnecessarily at the hands of terrorists. The prime minister and the military head should have a meeting, discuss how to protect everyone. There should be a joint statement from all politicians, army staff etc. denouncing terrorism. This way no one will be singled out and present themselves at risk. The people who refuse to take part in the joint statement will then be singled out as people who have nothing to offer this nation.
Nadeem May 12, 2011 09:54am
Really!!! after all his three wifes being captured from that house and now being questioned by our authorities, YOU STILL BELEIVE that he WAS NOT THERE. Hats off to people like you.
Shakeel.Quddus May 12, 2011 09:57am
What is so incredible is the debate about bin Laden. He became relevant after the Soveit invasion of Afghanistan. Inflamed by the ideas of Syed Qutub and Abdullah Azam, he was convinced that a way to drive the god-less infidel, the Muslims must reunite under one Islamic banner. Once the Soviet Union was out by 1989, he didn't see that it was the technological prowess of the other infidel superpower that had finally drove away the Soviets. Rather than seeing the obvious, he by then had become fortified in his ideological believes. After watching the defeat of the one super power. He became delusional enough to see the demise of the other super power. In this super power, he saw the foot prints of the Crusaders all around the Holy places of Islam. His problem wasn't simply of under estimating super powers. His greatest problem lied in detecting the defeciencies that ailed the Muslim socieites. To this day, even after the Arab Spring, most of the Muslims are as helpless as they were before when bin Laden took up arms. Pakistan has much to learn from this Fiasco.
Nadeem May 12, 2011 10:00am
what more evidence do you need, more than the fact that the americans used their most advanced technology to kill and capture whoever the person living there in that house. DO YOU SERIOUSLY THINK THEY WILL TAKE ALL THAT RISK and come into Pakistan to create just a hoax and challenge our soverienty. PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES.
Nadeem May 12, 2011 10:12am
I think the following statements from Stephens Cohon beautifully sums up Paksitan's foreign and national policy and Establishment. It is time for us to get rid of this establishment and claim Pakistan back. Paksitan belongs to noone (Obama or Osama) other than its people. Establishment: "an informal political system that [ties] together the senior ranks of the military, the civil service, key members of the judiciary, and other elites." Policy: "India must be countered at every turn; that nuclear weapons have endowed Pakistan with security and status; that the fight for Kashmir is unfinished business from the time of partition; that large-scale social reforms such as land redistribution are unacceptable; that the uneducated and illiterate masses deserve only contempt; that vociferous Muslim nationalism is desirable but true Islamism is not; and that Washington is to be despised but fully taken advantage of. Underlying these "core principles," one might add, is a willingness to serve power at any cost."
nb May 12, 2011 11:04am
Now I find different views have emerged from public opinion. A person selects any one to his own choice, but never considers about all aspects of situation. The competing views as follows:- 1. Bin Laden killed. And how he manged to stay in a large house in a small town, close to millitary garrison, frequently visited by Generals. 2. US in incorrect because they violated sovereignty of Pakistan. And how military could not detect the intruders. 3. Killing him was not correct. Burying in the sea was also not correct. 4. Bin Laden was not present in Pakistan at all. US has created merely a drama by killing someone else. I wish that in due course Pakistan and rest of world will come to only one point and jointly proceed towards global peace and progress.
Goga Nalaik May 12, 2011 12:15pm
Brilliant article. Many Pakistanis including myself are persuaded of hypocrite and biased attitude of our religious and political parties. Yes, we are all sick of this situation. Enough is enough. We must not tolerate such people and all activities of all banned outfits must be stopped. The only question is if there is any sane person left in the top management of our country. I suggest that a copy of this article should be sent to PML Q, PML N, JUI and TIP asking key leaders of all these parties to send in writing their official stance on hot issues evoked in this article which Dawn will publish. I can tell you that all Pakistanis living abroad are simply humiliated. Today, our country is known as “Terrorists paradise”, “the most dangerous country in the world” and “the third most corrupt country in the world” … Dawn is probably the only journal that gives us some hope. So, please keep writing as much as you can.
rationalist May 12, 2011 12:52pm
Good one :) Might I add: Won't need raids, won't need aid
Usman Shahid May 12, 2011 02:14pm
Why not to PPP, which is proving to be most incompetent in handling any situation.
Ashu May 12, 2011 03:43pm
Absolutely! You guys should think out of the box and focus more on developing peace, education, economy development in your country rather than rigidly thinking that US is wrong or India is wrong.
Rajaraman May 12, 2011 04:05pm
Wow... what an article!!!! awesome....I have not come across such a lovely article in the recent past any where in the world... Let the fire of this article engulf the hearts of pakistan in particular and the entire world in general. Once this happens, there will no hatred, who is big and who is small will just vanish from the world. Forget about we pakistanis, we indians, we americans etc.etc... and let us all be ONE HUMANKIND.... I am born in a Hindu family and so I am a Hindu... my birth in a hindu family is by chance and not by choice and similar is the case with every one in this world.... Had I born into a muslim or a christian family, I would have become a muslim or a christian... so what is religion about... and what are we so religous about.... let us all be one mankind... GOD BLESS ALL....
Goga Nalaik May 12, 2011 06:39pm
I think I was explicit enough ...!
Praneesh May 13, 2011 10:22am
9/11 is a history and probably America was taken by surprise.....No one can do this again to America.....They have learnt a bitter lesson.....but have learnt it well.....but in happens every day and no lessons learnt.....seems by lessons are ignored by choice....awam has no say in running law of the land and rulers shelter the then you can expect improvement......
manish May 13, 2011 10:30am
I fully agree with you
manish May 13, 2011 10:52am
If the ISI is not doubting the death of OBL, the Pakistani govt is not doubting it, the other terrorist groups and wellwishers of OBL are not doubting it, the countries of the world are not doubting it, it can be seen that Americans have carried out an operation in Abbotabad, the American govt. and the followers of OBL are agreeing that OBL was killed, OBLs family agrees that OBL was killed, why do you doubt his killing. Just sweep aside your wishful thinking that OBL is still alive.
Khan Wali May 13, 2011 11:03am
My dear Raja! have you seen the comments on your Indian forums abusing Pakistan, muslims and Islam? Also the quality of journalism 0f your media?
khalid May 13, 2011 12:50pm
All responses to the contents of the article are right, but they have missed the basic point of the writer that OBL affair is less about our sovereignty and more about accountability of our government and our establishment, civil as well as military. Who is going to do the accountability?
Usman Shahid May 13, 2011 01:02pm
Is there any credibility of Pakistani govt ? :)
prashant May 14, 2011 11:22am
there is a difference between abusing and killing Mr Khan
shankar May 16, 2011 05:12pm
Great article! In essence terrorism is more of a problem for Pakistan than for US, Europe or India. Pakistan bleeds a lot more! Pakistan should fight it for its own survival and freedom. Forget about US, drone attacks, violation of territorial integrity in Abbottabad. A lot more is at stake here! When Pakistan rids itself of terror these things will stop automatically.
aysha May 16, 2011 09:34pm
ok...what about Alqaida? did Al-Qaida deny that Osama was not in Pakistan compound and still alive??? If he is still alive would they admit their leader is dead???
Rao May 16, 2011 10:08pm
Here people are talking about accountability....Eleven hours of marathon session of parliament to discuss Bin Laden killing..Even if they spend 50% of the time to do something about their economy, Pakistan will be much better off.... Politicians haven't got their priorities right
Asad Atif May 17, 2011 02:00pm
It should be Pakistan's Pakistan. Ask both the kids to play outside and not in our home !!
Khan Wali May 17, 2011 04:28pm
How we can blame others for all the situation prevailing currently, when time comes to choose our leadership, we always remained on the wrong side.
RR(USA) May 25, 2011 04:54am
Nice article. It is time to clean the slate and head toward rebuilding the country, by making the right choices. Please rebuild a secure and safe country where citizens can live in peace and be proud of. I wish the very best. Get out and vote for the right people and voice your concerns.