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Three killed, six injured by Indian fire along Line of Control

Updated Oct 28, 2016 07:34pm

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Three people, including a young girl, were killed in the Nakyal and Tatta Pani sectors along the Line of Control (LoC) on Friday when Indian troops opened fire in the area.

Six people were also injured in the shelling by Indian troops in the villages along the LoC.

“Nakyal and Tatta Pani sectors came under fire on Friday, with Indian troops targetted civilian populations without any provocation,” said officials while speaking to Dawn.

The deceased were identified as Saima, 25, Aamna,, 7, and Abdul Latif, 50.

ISPR denies Indian claims

Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR) rejected Indian claims in connection with the alleged killings of Pakistani troops along the Working Boundary.

"Indian claims of killing any Pakistani soldier at the Working Boundary is absolutely baseless and untrue," the ISPR said in a statement.

"India's claim is part of their propaganda campaign aimed to hide their losses at the Working Boundary and also divert world attention from the Kashmir issue."

Earlier on Friday, Indian media quoted India's Border Security Force (BSF) as claiming that 15 personnel of Pakistan Rangers were killed during firing across the border.

The claims come hours after Pakistan declared an official of the Indian High Commission in Islamabad, Surjeet Singh, as persona non grata and asked him to leave the country by Oct 29 after much the same treatment was meted out by India to a staffer of the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi, Mehmood Akhtar.

Tense relations

The latest developments come as tensions simmer between New Delhi and Islamabad over the Kashmir issue and as the past few days have seen incidents of cross-border firing.

Ties between the two countries have deterioated further as the Indian prime minister stepped up a drive to isolate Pakistan diplomatically after the Uri army base attack last month.

Hours after the attack occurred, Indian Home Minister Rajnath Singh termed Pakistan a 'terrorist state' and accused Pakistan of involvement.

The Uri attack occurred days before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was set to address the United Nations General Assembly regarding Indian human rights violations in held Kashmir.

Following the attack, India claimed it conducted a cross-border 'surgical strike' against 'launch pads of terror' in Azad Jammu and Kashmir — a claim Pakistan has strongly rejected.

Pakistan maintains that India is attempting to divert the world's attention away from atrocities committed by government forces in India-held Kashmir.

Pakistan and India recently locked horns over the Kashmir issue when Indian forces stepped up a crackdown against protesters after Hizbul Mujahideen commander Burhan Wani was killed by government forces in July.

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Nasir Oct 28, 2016 04:34pm

I hope people on both sides understand that it's not a joke to rejoice the deaths of soilders on other side. Soilders on both sides are protecting their respective countries.

Concerned Oct 28, 2016 04:38pm

How pathetic of India making such claims and not providing any proof. The 'surgical strikes' have turned out to be a dud. So, now making such claims for domestic consumption will further erode international confidence in Indian statements.

Lathamic Oct 28, 2016 04:44pm

@Nasir : perfect mate. Counting the number is utter non sence. Peace is the requirement for 95% of the population of both the side.

Tariq Khan Oct 28, 2016 04:49pm

it is commonly known that nationalist governments like Modi's work far outside of the normal diplomatic boundries. lies, and harsh communication is one of theire common tools.

Unfortunatley Modi is turning whole of india to such behaiviour.

D.K. PAMNANI Oct 28, 2016 04:53pm

It is well known that if firing is on both sides, causalities are on both sides. We have to accept this.

Common Sense Oct 28, 2016 04:56pm

Strong army equals strong Pakistan.

Sachin Oct 28, 2016 05:02pm

There should never be any glorification of any soldiers killed in uniform. They were doing their job and should be respected. Soldiers are the poor people who join army to feed family.

Sachin Oct 28, 2016 05:02pm

@Concerned simple. Dont believe it. Its better.

Imtiaz Ali Khan Oct 28, 2016 05:07pm

@Sachin :) Amen.

Concerned Oct 28, 2016 05:10pm

@Sachin Apparently neither does established international media believes in these statements. Normally, killing of 15 soldiers be a big news item. As of now likes of BBC and CNN are not even mentioning it on their websites.

Dr.Arshad Oct 28, 2016 05:28pm

@Concerned ......Absolutely right.Right now people on both sides of the fence have stopped believing in news emanating from Indian government and its organs.

LetsHavePeace Oct 28, 2016 05:29pm

I think incompetent and corrupt politicians along with beauracracy of both nations look at soldiers as mere "mohre" in their effort to deceive their populations.

How conveniently the politicians have forgotten their primary responsibility of providing safe society to their populations.

I hope they are fully punished by whichever God they believe in.

Will never have any respect for politician or beauracrat ever in life- Period

A concerned Indian

Murtuza Babrawala Oct 28, 2016 05:36pm

Pakistan and India must come to senses. The beneficiary of this state of continued tension are the terrorist and extremist on both sides of the border. The losers are common people of both countries who wants to live with peace and harmony and work towards economic and educational development.

Nathan Oct 28, 2016 05:57pm

As an Indian, I hope there will be a day, when there are no killings on either side. Killing somebody (on either side) is not something to be proud of, as all human life should be valued.

Indian Oct 28, 2016 06:02pm

Any death is unfortunate, especially a soldier

Nathan Oct 28, 2016 06:03pm

@Nasir - I agree with you one hundred percent. It is shameful for people to boast about killings.

Ajitav Oct 28, 2016 06:15pm

Killing of poor soldiers is not a matter of rejoice... sorry about their families, no matter to which side of border they live..

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 06:26pm

Typical Baniya mindset, keep chanting and enough people will believe it. Just like India's economic marvel, fake it till you make it.

Ahmed bin Babar Oct 28, 2016 06:33pm

Let them claim or blame, the victory shall be ours...

Dr Ramesh K Sharma Oct 28, 2016 06:38pm

@Concerned This is becauase they know how foolish are these two countries who have been fighting since separation.

Sypathiser Oct 28, 2016 06:42pm

@Sachin well said...

Thiru Oct 28, 2016 06:44pm

Two poor nation killing each other, ordinary people in whatever way and sabre rattling! We, none of us, whatever name we call the Supreme Being, couldtake even a grain of sand with us when our time is up. When will this madness end, we happily live and let live. Both our nations were broken into parts in the last 70 years. Can we not now draw the line under it and see how we can eradicate poverty, illiteracy, disease and ignorance of our peoples, when we have collectively young, educated nations.

denakebalan Oct 28, 2016 06:49pm

The situation where both sides make statements of deaths and both sides respectively denies is very good situation. Let us believe both sides are true and no loss of life occurred at the border.

Kamal Pasha. Oct 28, 2016 06:55pm

The whole India has gone mad under the leadership of Modi/RSS.

UTPAL KUMAR BASU Oct 28, 2016 07:05pm

@ murtuza babrawala, absolutely right you are bro.The common people are the only victim.

Joe Oct 28, 2016 07:19pm

@Common Sense If that was true USA should have been ruling world.

Joe Oct 28, 2016 07:21pm

@Kamal Pasha. If that is true ,than Modi is a leader, who is democratic elected.

GAUTAM PRAJAPATI Oct 28, 2016 07:27pm

Nadir agreed with you

Dk Oct 28, 2016 07:36pm

Brother pls don't run into emotion, undeniable fact is - Wellbeing of all us lies only in Friedly relationship, we must not suffer bcz of some disputes left by our ancestors. One more fact- well being of US China Russia lies only in unfriendly rel between us. I travel to germany often, you won't believe they laugh on both of us.

Indian Oct 28, 2016 07:48pm

@Tariq Khan As an Indian, I am very happy with Modi ,

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 07:48pm

What a tangle web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. All these lies to support the lie of Surgical Strike. Indians had to announce death of three of their soldiers, it wouldn't go well domestically in the wake of the 'Surgical Strike', so they had to weave a story of casualties on Pakistan's side.

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 07:55pm

@Dk;

'we must not suffer bcz of some disputes left by our ancestors.'

But our people are being slaughtered by Indians in Kashmir right now.

Syed Oct 28, 2016 07:59pm

I wish a day comes when we learn to coexist. Have good education, good opportunities and prosperous nations.

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 08:00pm

@Joe;

'Modi is a leader, who is democratic elected.'

If he is democratically elected by the Indians that doesn't give him a right to kill people in another country, i.e. Kashmir.

SFthe Oct 28, 2016 08:13pm

Request to both sides: neither of your soldiers are bulletproof and both sides will lose their men in uniform with such firepower. Hiding losses on either side has become a tragic game. Stop with this nonsense immediately.

Prateik Oct 28, 2016 08:15pm

Each side claiming to have patent rights over "truth".

Chirag Oct 28, 2016 08:18pm

@Concerned dude check out bbc report on surgical strikes then comment

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 08:25pm

@Chirag;

'check out bbc report on surgical strikes then comment'

Checked them. No one is willing to vouch for Modi's claim. Even Indian has dropped this term like a hot potato.

Pakistani tujhe salam Oct 28, 2016 08:28pm

We should remove our villagers near the border as they are getting crazy killing innocent people. We should avoid harm to civilians

ekam(one) Oct 28, 2016 08:30pm

Both India and Pakistan are giving befitting replies.

Jigar USA Oct 28, 2016 08:41pm

@Tariq Khan Same can be said about Nawaz sharif. Divert attention from Panama leaks.

OneHumanity Oct 28, 2016 08:43pm

India and Pakistan must stop this madness. Open the borders and let people interact with each other. Love thy neighbor and focus on eradicating poverty from both nations. Indians and Pakistanis are best friends outside their countries so why not back home. Accept LOC as international border and encourage people of all faiths to move to the country of their choice. Borders don't mean anything if people can move freely. Enjoy friends, families, movies, sports, food together. Accept peace. Don't pass hatred to the next generation. Amen!!

KJ Oct 28, 2016 08:44pm

@Mustafa R. : Does it occur to you that all your comments are based on a one-sided view that you seem to favor? When two parties accuse and fight with each other, the truth is often times somewhere in the middle.

Ashwin Oct 28, 2016 08:45pm

@MUSTAFA R. Kashmir country ??

RAJ Oct 28, 2016 09:17pm

Till Pakistan accepts LOC as international border this will continue. By the way how many people are ready to accept this as reality and ready to move on ??

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 09:33pm

@KJ;

' Does it occur to you that all your comments are based on a one'

Everbody here is presenting their view, aren't you?

RANGANATHA Oct 28, 2016 09:33pm

I hate killing people either solder of Pak or India and claiming shameless.What is great in killing people?

Mustafa R. Oct 28, 2016 09:42pm

@RANGANATHA;

'What is great in killing people? '

Especially innocent children in Indian occupied Kashmir.

Raj Oct 28, 2016 09:51pm

@Nasir totally agree

Umreekan_Sundi Oct 28, 2016 10:02pm

Who cares? Let's seal Islamabad!

KJ Oct 28, 2016 10:04pm

@Mustafa R. : Yes, I am also presenting my views, but unlike you, I try to be as impartial as possible.

Dee Oct 28, 2016 10:06pm

Am an Indian and always read Dawn to understand perspectives from across the boundary. Looks like no one knows the truth and something is being projected by both sides about strikes, counter strikes and what not...Its so funny that only Hardliners are gaining upper hand on both the sides...Sane voices are being curbed...Deaths are celebrated and projected as victory...Nuclear threats...religious passions....Finally the loser is progress on both sides...May be time to think....

Krishna Upadhya Oct 28, 2016 10:11pm

Please don't rejoice any killing of civilians or soldiers on both sides. They are our heroes trying to protect the border. Politicians, sitting in their ac room sipping tea are the one playing the game.

Pakistani Oct 28, 2016 10:12pm

We cant believe either! Everybody says their own version. People in both countries are made fools. Politicians makes big big statements. But, the common man is still struggling to meet the ends. Even the army people have families. When they lose lives, their family become orphans. Only Politicians gains in this non-sense. Common people, army, country's economy... everything suffers... I am praying for a day when Indian troops claim "We built 10 schools for education in rural area" and Pakistani troops claim "We built 15 schools in retaliation". That is competition I am looking for.. Hope that day comes...

Leo Oct 28, 2016 10:35pm

It's nothing to do with the politicians on the Pakistani side. Nor the people of Pakistan want any war. It's to do with the unfinished agenda of the partition of the subcontinent ..we all know it!

Treehuggar Oct 28, 2016 10:38pm

@RAJ "Till Pakistan accepts LOC as international border this will continue."

Till India accepts the right of self determination of the people of Kashmir. Which they did plenty of time by Nehru but now have backtracked like they do....

Ranjith Raj Oct 28, 2016 11:08pm

@Nasir This tit for tat reactions resulting in the loss of innocent lives must end. Give diplomacy a chance. Indian and Pakistani govt must stop stroking nationalistic sentiments. This is what extremists on both sides want. India and Pakistan must not behave like children throwing tantrums at each other.

Dijo Oct 28, 2016 11:12pm

What the hell these guys are doing! Playing mini militia... stupid ppl

Vella Oct 28, 2016 11:12pm

@OneHumanity both become friend outside as they realize that world treat both as slave and third grader ...at home both try to project oneself as Shehanshah and other as gulam.

Ashfaq Oct 28, 2016 11:17pm

@Concerned why should any international media mention anything. They are quite and might be wishing that things escalate. No one wants to see south asia peaceful and prosperous. Let the common man suffer and let innocent people and brave soldiers die.

RANGANATHA Oct 29, 2016 12:09am

@Sachin I completely agree with you, just imagine the pain of the parents/ family of those killed.
Unfortunately some people does not accept the reality with the principle of live and let live others.

RANGANATHA Oct 29, 2016 12:14am

@Mustafa R. Definitely killing any person in Kashmir or in Karachi or any other parts of the World would definitely to be stopped. I am pained to hear this news regularly. Violence promotes violence.

P Setra Oct 29, 2016 12:46am

Two wrongs do not make one right, never. And both sides are competing with each other in bettering the other, in those wrongs. Very sad.

amit Oct 29, 2016 02:15am

@Tariq Khan On what basis you are saying this? He has overwhelming support of majority of the people. In each and every area India has mad progress under Modi. He has more public support then he had before took over office. So please can you provide something that your conclusion is based on.

amit Oct 29, 2016 02:23am

@Mustafa R. He is not doing this to kill people but to defend his own country.

VK Oct 29, 2016 02:40am

@Pakistani well said sir

adil Oct 29, 2016 03:07am

Whenever Pakistani government is shaky or under pressure, like current PM is from corruption charges, they either start war or throw clouds of war to change focus from their problem. How many times will this work? I hope people of Pakistan do not fall for this gimmick one more time and demand better governance from PM Sharif.

south indian Oct 29, 2016 06:21am

It is really sad and no sane person approve death of civillians or armed forces on both sides of the borders.Pray god this situation will end.Only terrorists are enmies.Nobody should rejoice death of army or border force of both nations.

skraichurkar Oct 29, 2016 07:32am

when will this killing end from both sides.

Bipul Oct 29, 2016 08:39am

This madness needs to stop now. Enough of it.

Deepak Kumar Oct 29, 2016 08:48am

@Treehuggar plebiscite is not an option since Kashmir is not not same, neither in Geography nor in Demographic.. And then Simla Agreement completely overrides that. Educated people know that. That's why nobody in the world meddling in Kashmir

whyso Oct 29, 2016 09:13am

@Tariq Khan It is BSF statement and not Modi's statement. India is a democracy and all institution or wings are responsible and accountable in their independent capacity.

SAM Oct 29, 2016 09:17am

After making tall promises to the people of India and unable to fulfill , Modi government is just diverting attention of its people to Pakistan. Corruption, Poverty, and in India, still stand where they stood when Modi came into Power.

Sunil Dhiman Oct 29, 2016 09:42am

@Nasir same here

D.K. PAMNANI Oct 29, 2016 10:05am

@Kamal Pasha.

Dear Pashaji

You are correct that Indians are mad for Shri Modi ji as he is a great leader, Why you people have gone made after Modi ji took over as PM of our beloved country.

vadula61@gmail.com Oct 29, 2016 10:33am

Full fledged war between two nuclear armed nations is simply ruled out. What is the use of killing poor soldiers on either side of the frontier? does it serve any purpose? I hope good sense will prevail on both the sides, both the sides should renew the cease fire agreement of 2005. This is the only viable solution under the circumstances.

M. Siddique Oct 29, 2016 04:08pm

We hope Pakistani forces retaliated and taken down those who claim to have fired.

Hamdoc Oct 29, 2016 06:06pm

It's clear now with upcoming elections in Indian state of UP nd punjab.. a more dramatic if not effective, "surgical attack" by India is in the making. Such diversions help the modi government divert public attention from its colossal failure on its electoral promises..let no one be surprised if such attacks happen asap..

Aman Chahal Oct 29, 2016 08:50pm

@Sachin ....Very True....!

Kishore Oct 30, 2016 09:50am

@OneHumanity absolutely correct.

El Cid Oct 30, 2016 10:12am

A 'befitting' reply will soon be forth coming from the talking general!

emal Oct 30, 2016 10:28am

@D.K. PAMNANI He may be a great leader for selective society, no doubt over that. But look at the situation in Gujarat, Rajasthan and MP and observe how they are playing with the minorities and lower caste. The outwings of the party are trying to ppolarise and communalise every situation in nearby electorial state and they are backed by the present Govt. of state and India. Giving slogans like 'sabka sath sabka vikas' and zero implementation is not a sign of good leader. I wish you are true!, that would be great.

Maria Oct 30, 2016 10:44am

@Concerned Spot on!

Anon Oct 30, 2016 12:00pm

@Mustafa R. Innocent children pelting stones???

Kevin Peter Oct 30, 2016 08:30pm

@Nasir sensible comment!

Kevin Peter Oct 30, 2016 08:37pm

Kashmir can be a symbol of peace for both Pakistan and India provided both countries show the guts to allow their part of Kashmir to merge with the other half while both countries give autonomy with each part remaining with their respective countries. This mechanism should allow the Kashmiris to freely move across the border while with increasing trust, citizens of both countries can be allowed to visit the entire Kashmir with an inner line visa permit of sorts.

SHANKAR Oct 31, 2016 01:40pm

@Dr.Arshad You talk for your country. We Indians believe in what Indian guv and media says.