Response to Nawaz: De-terrorising Pakistan is the answer, says India
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India on Thursday hit back at Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's address in the United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) where he proposed de-militarising of the Kashmir region as a peace measure by saying that de-terrorising Pakistan is the answer.
In a series of antagonistic tweets posted on his official Twitter account, Indian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Vikas Swarup also said, "Pakistan's instability arises from its breeding of terrorists. Blaming neighbors is not a solution."
Swarup said, "Pakistan is not primary victim of terrorism but of its own policies. It is in fact the prime sponsor of terrorism."
Referring to Nawaz's address, he also said, "Pak PM gets foreign occupation right, occupier wrong. We urge early vacation of Pak occupied Kashmir.
Yesterday, the prime minister had used his address to the UNGA to propose four peace measures, which include demilitarising of Kashmir and an unconditional withdrawal of troops from the Siachen glacier.
Nawaz Sharif had urged India to formalise and respect the 2003 understanding for a complete ceasefire on the Line of Control (LoC) in Kashmir.
Read: PM urges India to pledge not to use force under any circumstances
For this purpose, he had called for the expansion in the role of the UN Military Observers Group for India and Pakistan (UNMOGIP) to monitor the observance of the ceasefire.
The prime minister had also stated that an easing of threat perceptions through such efforts would make it possible for Pakistan and India to address the peril posed by offensive and advanced weapons systems.
Earlier during the week, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had met UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon on the sidelines of the 70th UNGA Session in New York, where he urged for a plebiscite in Kashmir, stressing on the need for implementation of the United Nation’s Security Council (UNSC) resolution in this regard.
The premier had also raised the issue of tensions between Pakistan and India, including ceasefire violations on the LoC and the Working Boundary.
Ban has expressed concern on tensions between Pakistan and India and offered his good offices for dialogue between the two arch rivals.
Also read: PM Nawaz urges Ban Ki-moon for plebiscite in Kashmir
The UN chief has also appreciated Pakistan’s active role in the United Nations and its various bodies, particularly in peacekeeping. He lauded Pakistan's role in the fight against terrorism.
The Himalayan territory of Kashmir is divided between India and Pakistan by the UN-monitored de facto border of LoC but is claimed in full by both the countries.
Ceasefire violations along the LoC and Working Boundary between Pakistan and India continue intermittently, with casualties reported on both sides.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:39pm
Extremist India on the rise, we want peace and they want war it seems. Enough is enough. Time to stop being so diplomatic. Cut all ties with them please.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:44pm
Befitting reply from India and truth is evident to the international community. Pakistan must first become the change it wishes upon its neighbor.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:45pm
A very childish and cowardly answer from our indian counterpart
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Oct 01, 2015 05:46pm
Valid points
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Oct 01, 2015 05:48pm
I said that this Extremist India, led by Modi and that we should stop the diplomatic approach. They clearly don't want it and we should hold our own and cut all ties with them.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:49pm
Idiotic statement as usual coming out of India
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Oct 01, 2015 05:49pm
This Vikas guy has lost it.
Granted Pakistan's wrong policies have backfired but India is no saint. LTTE, Mukhti Bahini, PM tainted with Gujrat massacre are some small examples.
People living in glass houses should not be throwing stones at each other.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:49pm
yesterday a Muslim was burnt to death by an extremist hindu in India. Rapers are freely moving in delhi. mass conversions are happening in secular india also. Nothing else needs to be said.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:50pm
Straight to the point.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:51pm
Yes , We can do that once we have Kashmir , not before.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:52pm
Now thats what we were waiting for. India doesn't want to take any suggestion/measures to curb this enmity which is initiated by them only through not solving kashmir's issue. Our Army never used force to handle kashmiris of pakistani side infact there was no retaliation at all from masses of that area. So peaceful. However at the opposite side thus far almost half a million people have been assasinated by indian Army and still their side of kashmir is not occupied by them and they dont want to free them. joke it is
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Oct 01, 2015 05:53pm
What else we can expect from Hindu extremist country. We have to strengthen ourselves in every field of life so that no other option than solving issues with us left for this Hindu extremist country.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:53pm
The question is weather or not India is helping in de-terrorizing Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:54pm
The one who sows seeds of terrorism blaming the the one who is victim. Solution of Kashmir lies in the hands of Kashmiris, Only if they are given their right of plebiscite according to UN resolution passed decades ago but still waiting to enforcement. Lay off just lay off you oppressors
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Oct 01, 2015 05:57pm
Shows how immuture the gentleman is. There is a problem but instead of trying to sort it out blamming it on others. No wonder he is working for forign ministry.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:57pm
I fully agree what Vikas points. Time for Pakistan to realize its mistakes. And move further with India. Ripe time for Pakistan to get the benefits of growing India. We all do mistakes, to accept them is the true strength.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:58pm
'Referring to Nawaz's address, he also said, "Pak PM gets foreign occupation right, occupier wrong. We urge early vacation of Pak occupied Kashmir.'
Since India claims to be a democracy, then shall we ask the kashmiris themselves? What are you afraid of? Only a fascist government dictates terms contrary to the will of the affected people. So which one are you?
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Oct 01, 2015 05:59pm
By the reaction of this man, one can see the Nawaz proposal hit a bulls eye. Kashmir out in the international forum.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:59pm
@Zak , You already have Kashmir in Pakistan; Likewise, India also has a Kashmir and even China has a Kashmir. Let everybody be satisfied with what we have.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:59pm
India is the one sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. So stop sponsoring terrorism.
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Oct 01, 2015 05:59pm
Pakistan should not waste more time talking to India as nothing can be achieved or will be achieved, kashmir and other issues will resolve themselves automatically when muslim population becomes substantial in India and elects sufficient muslim representatives who will bring peace between two nations, meanwhile Pakistan has to concentrate on itself , forget India or kashmir exists and focus on becoming peaceful ,strong and with strong industrial,agricultural and educational base.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:02pm
As sual no cordial reciprocity to Nawaz Sharif gesture of goodwill. When meeting our leaders, the whole world makes special mention of appreciating our efforts of fight against terror and we get this from the big brother!!! Just like the waiving first to Modi and the walking down to meet Modi when Modi barely moved.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:02pm
@RAJA tell this to UN and check their response there lies the answer.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:04pm
India is simply in a state of denial. They are forgetting that their National Security Advisor (Ajit Kumar Doval) has publically admitted that they are sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan as per their policy of so called “Defensive Offensive theory”.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:04pm
@RAJA India is secular, not extremist. If you see secularism as extremism, then India will, in your view, always remain extremist. If you make yourself secular, you will not see any extremism in Indian stand.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:04pm
@Glowing Pakistan well said on the face they say they are socialist but are extremist hindus and it is evident from the person who is the PM is responsible for thousands of deaths of Muslims....and they call it socialist republic...
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Oct 01, 2015 06:05pm
Swarup - So what are you doing in Afghanistan. You have been busy meddling in there affairs and are using them to create terrorist activities in Pakistan.
Don't play these dirty games or you will have to bare the consequences.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:08pm
So Pakistan proposes 4 points to deescalate tensions along the LoC, ask for UN observers, demilitarising and to bring much needed peace to the region and India comes back with a childish reply with same old tired lines from the past. Very disappointing.
Honestly if India is serious about peace (which I am pretty it is not) it should have called Pakistan's bluff. India should have said Ok lets demilitarise and bring UN observers and lets see who breaks the ceasefire. Wouldn't this put Pakistan in trouble from Indian point of view?
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Oct 01, 2015 06:12pm
The diplomatic language has been soft until now. The words are louder, bolder and strategic. Most intelligence agencies outside Pakistan know the truth. Do you think Indian MEA could be this bold without proofs on world stage?
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Oct 01, 2015 06:12pm
Gosh there is so much propaganda coming from India. They are purposely trying to misguide Indians.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:15pm
Reply to this Swarup guy. Prime sponsor of terrorism in Pakistan is India. Now what?
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Oct 01, 2015 06:16pm
Yes, De-terrorising Pakistan is the answer & problem is RAW. Pakistan should uproot RAW from Indian & Afghanistan soil.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:17pm
Can't we discuss these things like adults and agree on something
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Oct 01, 2015 06:18pm
There is a letter written to UN chairman, these tweets explain same narrative. As Pakistan is entitled to submit their views and so in reply India as well submitted their own view. So, let both government do their job and see how they handle it.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:18pm
After Pakistan's PM's good proposals, I can't understand why India is seething and behaving like a bully (just like with Nepal).
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Oct 01, 2015 06:19pm
Everyone in India wants to sound more Indian than other Indians ... but in the end no one's doing any service to India itself, all scoring points for themselves and fools blindly cheering them.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:22pm
Indian statements should simply be ignored. They always comes up with non-sensible responses.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:23pm
Five terrorists who attacked the army base in Peshawar recently were Pakistanis. The madrassa culture is eating Pakistan alive. These are homicide factories.
Please educated children in science, Maths, Arts etc.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:24pm
@Jeeva secularism at best,killing a Muslim with bricks on the suspicion of eating beef and many more
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Oct 01, 2015 06:24pm
Best reply Mr. Swarop and we mean it...
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Oct 01, 2015 06:24pm
@RAJA everyone knows who is 'extremist'
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Oct 01, 2015 06:27pm
@RAJA As if their are any meaningful ties remaining between India and Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:27pm
Saffron terrorism is on the rise in India with the current extremist government, BJP came into power in 1993 after Advani Ji Rath Yatra from Gujrat to Ayodhaya, no one can forget the blood letting on every street of India at that time. Then M0di got the historic win in Gujrat after the biggest historic slaughter in Gujrat. Then Muzzaffarnagar massacre made him PM. Now these people are eyeing on Bihar and UP elections...divide and rule, create hatred and fear and win elections...simple as that.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:28pm
Today , I am ashamed as an Indian just because of this spokesperson, is he career diplomat or a carrier Chaiwala, I guess he is a Chaiwala.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:28pm
@Glowing Pakistan Exactly right, this is what India has been telling Pakistan from the beginning , first start developing in all fields starting from normal primary school, once people gets normal education, every thing will fall in place and the world will start respecting you.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:29pm
Shame on Indian.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:30pm
Now who is this guy? every day somebody pops up in India and bashes Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:30pm
The amount of hate Modi generates in Pakistan is a measure of his success ... keep it up Mr. Modi.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:30pm
@Saqib Why is it always about religion? It is more important that a human being has died and we need to correct it to prevent such incidents in future.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:30pm
while Pakistan is always talking peace & through negotiations India is bent upon showing its muscles & arrogance, this will not work at all. India should understand that it can never create a military impression on Pakistan, it is better India also talk peace. One thing is for sure Kashmir will not remain under Indian barbarism for long time. The world has started to realize this. Forth war if at all it happens will wipe out every thing from the region. Sense should therefore prevail & peace be given a chance.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:31pm
@RAJA
we don't stand to gain anything by having any kind of relations with pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:31pm
Let's not mention the 100s of people killed during Gujrat massacre. Instead make the culprit PM. That is true nature of extremism in India.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:32pm
A very immature reply by Indians. And this is the country that wants a permanent UN seat! Ha .. not with that attitude. This attitude will backfire at them. This Indian superpower bubble will burst soon too. What Nawaz offered is genuinely backed by the Pak Army as well (to demilitarise both Indian and Pakistani Kashmir) and possibly the best solution for everyone towards peace in the region. India is on a war footing against Pakistan, and the backers are USA and Israel. Trump is saying exactly what the Zionists have planned for Pakistan and how they think Pakistan is a threat.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:34pm
Awesome answer...
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Oct 01, 2015 06:35pm
Very clear answer ..... I don't no why we r so diplomatic....
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Oct 01, 2015 06:38pm
"De-terrorizing Pakistan is the solution". Gotta agree!
SO does this mean India will stop terrorizing Pakistan, and now follow a de-terrorizing policy?
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Oct 01, 2015 06:40pm
How can anyone blame India, when India has been a victim of the Mumbai blast of early 1990's, the 26/11 event at the Taj Hotel, and many others? Initially, Pakistan always claims that it is an 'internally driven' event, and then finally and reluctantly accepting Pakistan's role in some capacity. For instance, Pakistan kept claiming that Kasab was not a Pakistani. Pakistan has to give rock solid guarantees that they will not allow anyone in Pakistan to participate in such activities. Until such time, there is no point in blaming India.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:40pm
It is clear that India will not inch back on Kashmir without a fight. We need to build our nation and wait for the right moment. Kashmir will be eventually liberated.
Role of Indian sponsorship of terror is well known and documented. It dates back to East Pakistan. With presence of leaders like Raheel Shareef we will not let India pull a Bangladesh in Baluchistan.
PM should have made it very clear that granting India permanent seat at the UN security council without settlement of Kashmir would result in Pakistan quitting this organization.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:42pm
Pakistan is fixing its internal problems but on the contrary India is showing its stubbornness to resolve the issues between the two countries. Its about time that India should change its mindset to have long lasting peace in the region.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:42pm
Vikas Swarup vs Sartaj Aziz
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Oct 01, 2015 06:42pm
India need this type of gov who can reperenst India effectively on international forums.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:43pm
Well said Vikas Swarup
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Oct 01, 2015 06:44pm
@Shehzad But India does not complaining about that to anyone. Instead India learned from the mistakes and marching towards the economic prosperity.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:46pm
Should India deploy its forces according to Pakistan's convenience. Should India advice what Pak army should do?
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Oct 01, 2015 06:46pm
@Dev , why don't you start from your land first by banning Hindu extremists on the rise and planting seeds of terrorism. Stop being so ignorant and blind OR crook.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:46pm
De-terrorizing Pakistan is exactly what Gen. Raheel is doing, more than 2900 RAW, NDS backed terrorists dispatched to their eternal abode, many thousands apprehended.
It is now India's turn to de-terrorize the nation
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Oct 01, 2015 06:47pm
Both India and Pakistan should initiate competition between university students in science and arts projects. Please start exchanging tour program and improve trade and commerce. Help each others understand real issues. Both countries should stop interfering other internal matters and supporting unwanted groups. Being third world countries both even can't provide clean drinking water to masses but seem ready to fight nuclear war which is pathetic.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:47pm
India must stop sending RAW agents to Pakistan. This will be the step to de-terrorize Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:47pm
The whole worlds is a stage and both the countries made fools of themselves. Everyone is laughing!
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Oct 01, 2015 06:47pm
@Jeeva
Please be realistic. India is NOT secularist under Modi/ BJP/RSS.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:48pm
childish Indian response
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Oct 01, 2015 06:49pm
Yes there is terrorism in Pakistan but there is increasing evidence of RAW involvement both from the eastern border (India) and western border (Afghanistan). This is the worst example of Indian sponsored terrorism.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:49pm
India, India, India....When will you understand that nobody in the world is going to buy your narrative about Pakistan. This standpoint has now lost its charm. The world community is not blind. Don't you see how our Army Chief is received and how world political and military leaders meet and greet him. The reason is simple. Pakistan's unequivocal resolve in combating terrorism.
Please use your brain. See the where the winds of change are blowing. The whole world acknowledges Pakistan's efforts and sacrifices to root out terrorism of all hue and color.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:52pm
India's current extreme status is a reflection of it Hindu Extremist PM who has blood of thousands of Indian Muslims on his neck. India is the biggest exporter of terrorism to Pakistan via RAW.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:53pm
India shall be excluded from UN because of not implementing resolutions # 39 & 47 and not respecting the wishes of Kashmiri majority.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:55pm
The Indian foreign ministry spokesman forgot the norms. A word by a premier is only replied by his counterpart. Such statements though speak a lot about the mind set of the Modi led government. If India wants its dream of becoming a south Asian giant turn true. It must resolve all differences with its neighbors. It should stop behaving as a boss of the region. Rather it should develop an elder brotherly attitude. Otherwise no matter how much the west props her up. She will still remain shrouded in poverty.
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Oct 01, 2015 06:57pm
@indian muslim, well buddy you said it all..
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Oct 01, 2015 06:57pm
India dont want peace nawaz gave such a decent proposal for peace but indian attitude is same India get well soon
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Oct 01, 2015 06:57pm
@Saqib We are not denying that India does not have problems. This was a heinous crime. The system is working to bring the culprits to justice. Please do not generalize this on whole of India.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:02pm
Baseless response from India. If they would give priority to peace and stability in the region, they wouldn't have responded this way.
- Disappointed
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Oct 01, 2015 07:02pm
Pakistan needs to make its own house in order: first, to prevail easy and cheap justice system without discrimination; second, revolutionary steps to curb corruption; to decrease gap between have and have not; to revolutionarise education system based on similar standard and curriculum; to take measures of unity among Pakistanis; etc, are some simple measures to be taken immediately. These steps may be hard in its implementation but its effects, however, can be seen long lasting.
Why a coward dare to roar because of our own mweajnesses. Please change our own behaviour towards our brothers.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:03pm
Yes! Pakistan is DE-militarizing the foreign agents sponsored by foreign agency like RAW. Plus it is the internal affair of Pakistan which is a sovereign country not the disputed piece of Land like occupied Kashmir
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Oct 01, 2015 07:04pm
In the contrary. RAWs nefarious and blatant activities are directly connected to destabilizing pakistan. This is not a secret anymore.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:05pm
Baseless response from India. If they would give priority to peace and stability in the region, they wouldn't have responded this way.
- Disappointed
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Oct 01, 2015 07:06pm
I think Pakistan should take the example of border dispute between India and China. How they are growing irrespective of there are serious differences about border. Both india and china have same military , economic and political differences which india and pakistan has now.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:11pm
Every single terrorist arrested in Pakistan is linked to RAW, what do you say on that sir?
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Oct 01, 2015 07:12pm
@RAJA your wish is already granted before you wrote it .The diplomacy had failed and army now dictates foreign policy .
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Oct 01, 2015 07:12pm
Well said Raja, you can not talk to them. they will never listen of go for peace, they think they can finish Pakistan in few second.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:13pm
Sartaj Ajij was about to handover the proofs of RAW involvement.What happened to that i wonder.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:13pm
@Imran Qasim : Rather than pointing figures at each other about what's happening isn't it better if India and Pakistan focus on their internal issues first. there is lot that need to be done on both sides.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:13pm
@Saqib India is a big and complex country, and many incidents happen there. Overwhelming majority of Indians oppose such sparse undesired activities such as, the eating a beef activity you mentioned. You guys pick some rarely occurring incidents and imprint them in your mind to keep anti-India sentiment alive. However, overwhelmingly large people are not in favour of beef. Large number of minority (Muslims and others) are freely allowed to practice their religion in India. Muslims in India are more free to practice their religion than in Pakistan itself. This speaks volume about who is extremist and who is secular.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:14pm
@Gulfraz
The truth is NO Kashmir or talks they are not in mood. take it or lave it.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:14pm
All my Pakistani friends -. The statements by NS and response from India were meant to satisfy domestic hawks. Most newly formed countries in the world have border disputes with neigbors. Saudi, UAE, Oman, Iraq have border claims of territories. China has border disuptes with every single neighbor - India, Russia, Korea, Japan, Vietnam etc. However with Kashmir, Pak has a very singular focus. Its almost like a stubborn obsession. How about keep Kashmir issue disputed using all peaceful means ONLY, dismantle terror camps within Punjab and AJK, and for 5 years focus on tripling trade, tourism, education exchange between 2 countries
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Oct 01, 2015 07:16pm
Well Said Vikas......That should be the answer from India !!
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Oct 01, 2015 07:16pm
@Srini - "India has been telling Pakistan from the beginning, first start developing in all fields...". So, you really believe we need some "telling" from you? Some really get succumbed to their own propaganda so much so that they are oblivious to their own numerous issues but they think they are eligible in "telling" us!!!
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Oct 01, 2015 07:17pm
Where is dossier prepared by Mr. Aziz ? Why was not shared with UN ?
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Oct 01, 2015 07:17pm
@Jeeva . A secular country where a Muslim is beaten to death by a Hindu mob, just because he was eating beef?
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Oct 01, 2015 07:18pm
If RAW is involved in terror activities in Pakistan then why PM Nawaz Sharif didn't mention it in his speech? Answer is simple you don't have evidences...
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Oct 01, 2015 07:18pm
India is always hostile to its neighbours. it's track record is full of supporting Insurgency in neighbour countries from LTTE to Multi Bahini to Interference in Nepal. If India claims to be Largest Democracy of World, why doesn't it go for Plebiscite in ILK as per U.N. resolution. This a also may help her in strengthening its case for Permannet seat in UNSC.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:20pm
India is in arrogance of power and it will never solve kashmir neither internationally nor bilaterally as bilaterialism always fails in solving kashmir.only solution is pelbescite as per UN resolutions.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:21pm
no more contact with India break all the ties including diplomatic and go to the war, if you think you can win, otherwise go back to sleep.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:21pm
India is in arrogance of power and it will never solve kashmir neither internationally nor bilaterally as bilaterialism always fails in solving kashmir.only solution is pelbescite as per UN resolutions.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:22pm
well, anyone with half a brain can see what is going on...With China corridor, Pak Army's focus is on clearing the miscreants in our own house, miscreants that we facilitated if not fully supported at one time. However, India cannot see this project become a success and keeping Pakistan engaged on the border achieves that objective. However, we posses the determination that built Karakorum highway...I think Modi is miscalculating our resolve
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Oct 01, 2015 07:24pm
Dont blame Vikas,he is speaking the official stand of MEA-GOI as official spokes person.That hit a bull eye straight,no here and there.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:26pm
It wasn't expected from such a high level officials, I wonder why the international community is acting like a blind person, these statement are clear evidence of how cruel their intentions are, they don't want peace they want more and more land with the cost of human blood these greedy people wants to control the whole sub continental region at any cost, I urge UN to take some steps and force India to accept points which were given by our PM.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:27pm
Good reply
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Oct 01, 2015 07:28pm
I can clearly sense the idiocy of Indian officials from these remarks. Hilarious.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:28pm
Pakistan can only be de-terrorised if Kashmir de-militarized and solved according to will of people.... Indian making is difficult for regional peace..
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Oct 01, 2015 07:29pm
@Sachin "All my Pakistani friends -. The statements by NS and response from India were meant to satisfy domestic hawks. Most newly formed countries in the world have border disputes with neigbors. Saudi, UAE, Oman, Iraq have border claims "
The issue of Kashmir is not merely a border issue where the moot point is some line drawn few miles here or there. The Sir Creek and SiaChin are border disputes. Kashmir is different as here the issue compasses millions of people who are held against their will and aspirations. Liberty is in human genes no force can subdue this desire.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:30pm
@Changez_Khan . Vikas Swarup is the spokesperson of the Indian Ministry of External Affairs. The previous spokesperson was Syed Akbaruddin. Before you jump to the conclusion that he has been sacked, allow me to tell you that he will now be the India's Representative at the UN (promotion). Wait till he takes up his post and begins to reply to Pak accusations. Incidentally, a few Syeds have been the chief architects of the current Policies (One of them recently retired as the Chief of India's Intelligence B., co-ordinated India's policy on IS with the KSA) and, should I say, Syed Akbaruddin was the guide of the Modi Govt. on Foreign policy.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:31pm
This has been a general observation that whenever there is an initiation of dialogue from any of the sides the other side tends to evade on a certain pretext or if need be issues are presented as core issues to avoid the very purpose of the dialogue. The developments indeed have not been very positive and constructive during the last one year as far as bilateral relationships are concerned the Indo-Pak context a steady rise of antipathy and distrust having promoted disharmony. The rising frequency of cross-border ceasefire violations accompanied with the blame game are promoting the feelings of radical patriotism on either sides. The old game of making a virtue out of antipathy, distrust and malice to the highest degree seems to become the order of the day. This is most unfortunate of all developments which need to be addressed in a prudent and an unbiased manner.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:33pm
By they way has all the proofs against Indian disappeared from your FO. Grow up buddies its futile to put all your eggs in one basket.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:34pm
No need to talk to them, at least for the time being. We should not waste our time. Lets do what we have to do for the betterment of Pakistan.
In the meantime, block all trade, overland access to Afghanistan & Central Asia and be ready for war if forced on us.
In addition we have to exterminate all the Indian supported terrorists from our country.
In short Pakistan must be really assertive. No more appeasement policy.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:35pm
@Merchant Show us the evidence.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:35pm
@Jeeva .. With an extremist PM how dare you call your self secular. India is for Hindusim and Hinduism is for india. Modi has made his intolerance clear. Hosting Iftra parties and what not does not count.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:37pm
That's a very tough response from India's ,loud and clear.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:39pm
India doesn't want peace, it wants dominance of it's neighbors. Dream on
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Oct 01, 2015 07:42pm
What about Dovel's offensive defense and Parikar's 'kante de kanta' doctrine?
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Oct 01, 2015 07:42pm
Held Kashmir is the best example of Indian Policy, why don't you look at your own problem, get it solved as per UN Resolutions, give these Kashmirs Freedom, they don't want to stay with India, very simple answer.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:43pm
@Atam Vetta - Don't worry, our articulate Maleeha Lodhi is good enough at the UN. Syed Akbaruddin's 'promotion' by the way is to lobby for Security Council’s seat, not to fight with Maleeha Lodhi.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:43pm
They will never come to the point, they will never admit their illegal occupation of Kashmir. Whenever you ask them about UN resolution they will try to run away and not face the reality or answer that.
"Bagal main churri, munh main Ram Ram"
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Oct 01, 2015 07:43pm
How apt of Indians to claim they are not OBSESSED with Pakistan and Kashmir when their own govt. has nothing better to do then play an insidious blame game maligning Pakistan as evident in Vikas Swarup's incessantly ludicrous anti-Pakistan tweets.
Pointing fingers at Pakistan doesn't bode well for Modi the man who instigated terrorism against Muslims in his own state of Gujrat, while also terrorizing and butchering innocent civilians in Kashmir.
Pakistan should take a strong stance against such propaganda which try to malign Pakistan's genuine fight against terrorism. India knows full well that Pakistan has suffered far more innocent deaths then India due to this scourge.
Even more bizarre is Modi's hype that his policies are promoting peace and harmony in the region, which India's bordering nations - Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, etc. know are clearly false and contradictory.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:45pm
A very immature response from someone who holds a responsible position in government.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:48pm
That's very tough response from India-MEA,loud and clear.Hit a bull eye straight no here and there.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:49pm
@Imran Qasim
That's none of ur business.
Set ur house in order first
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Oct 01, 2015 07:54pm
India doesn't want peace on Pakistan's terms, let it continue for another decade or so.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:55pm
What this Vikas is talking about?
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Oct 01, 2015 07:55pm
Response to VK: stop meddling in Pakistan and stop supporting Pakistani radicals
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Oct 01, 2015 07:55pm
As usual not very sensible answer from Indian leadership.
You can not make progress with people who do not want to make peace.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:56pm
With more people starting to believe the reality of Kashmir i.e. self determination, the smell of panic is arising from the occupiers camp
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Oct 01, 2015 07:57pm
Bold and beautiful Mr. Swarup. You are bang on target !!!
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Oct 01, 2015 07:58pm
@Saqib this inhumanity I condemn and apologise for!!!
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Oct 01, 2015 07:59pm
@shuhul
Really, a country who is not ready to play cricket with Pakistan and you are telling Pakistan to get along with India.
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Oct 01, 2015 07:59pm
We may have home grown terrorists and e are dong something about it, we are crushing them and breaking their backs on daily basis.
On the other hand India are ruled by a extremist and Indians celebrate his rule on daily basis.
So please look in your own closet before you make such statements.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:00pm
Correct responses from India, I appreciate it. Pakistan requires introspection of its policies and agenda first.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:02pm
To get the true picture India must not waste time through aimless wandering and hold a free and impartial plebiscite under the United Nations.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:02pm
@Dev what international community? the world acknowledges pakistans stance on kashmir. whether we want to use proxies to get you to the negotiating table is our prerogative. you are doing and have been doing the exact same thing. so leave the holider than thou attitude. india is a prime sponsor of terrorism in the region, not just against pkaistan but agianst sri lanka, bangladesh, myanmar. shouting louder doesnt mean you are telling the truth. just shows you're insane.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:03pm
@Iqbal They are actually building the country called afgan. What i noticed is there is infrastructure and canals and irrigation help done by indians. afgani villagers are happy by indian works.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:03pm
@RAJA
go ahead cut all relations
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Oct 01, 2015 08:06pm
speechless on his answers. why someine dont tell him that it was not the question. Answer lies in the solution of Kashmire dispute. Both countries are involved in proxy war. Pakistan survived but India would never if it was to fight such a long war. India should be ready because war will come home very soon . indded it must decide names of new countries i mean punjab or khalistan and many more. Indian attitude remains unyeiding so solution have to be imposed
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Oct 01, 2015 08:07pm
@shuhul
There are three countries who are danger to world peace and they all start with letter "I" and they are all in one nexus.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:07pm
What an immature response. Is he really a foreign office spokesperson????????
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Oct 01, 2015 08:08pm
@ifzaal -please read UNSC resolution 47 and the wordings,we need to vacate Kashmir first and we are not doing it. educate yourself before making our Pakistan look foolish with ignorance.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:09pm
Kill each terrorist planted by India, deterrorize Pakistan !!
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Oct 01, 2015 08:09pm
@Iqbal Khan -exactly you are on the spot.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:10pm
@shuhul What a joke! Thanks we are not interested. End of story.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:12pm
@Jeeva by secular you mean beating people to death who eat meat ? Wake up man, India's real face is becoming evident every passing day.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:13pm
This is true to some extent. We must first clean Pakistan from terrorists and then should point fingers towards others.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:17pm
For heavens sake, please stop this love and peace stories with india and raise kashmir issue on all international forums
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Oct 01, 2015 08:18pm
You will always witness an aggressive response from them whenever you show a weak posture to the Indians.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:18pm
India needs to realize that its imperialistic agenda will take it to its downfall. Just like the Communist USSR, Nazi Germany. Imperialism won't help you become a superpower before China does.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:18pm
India openly admitting and promoting the terror at state level in the Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:18pm
@Khurram .....not your business whether India is secularist or not . You can not vote in India .
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Oct 01, 2015 08:19pm
Pakistan is walking backwards:
All primary sectors are worse off than before.....and for this reason we need to revisit our internal and external policies.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:19pm
Okay fine. So India is not secular. What next?
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Oct 01, 2015 08:19pm
@sbk Kashmir is not mere piece of barren territory that is open to division to any and all. It's about time India recognizes Kadhmir as a territory inhabited by people with soul, desires, ambition and aspirations and must be allowed to live their lives and form their alliances and affiliations as they find most fit. And India can not forever stand to obstruct the whole world and even less the people of Kashmir who are thirsting for a plebiscite.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:20pm
@Kumar it is the old Indian mantra of asking to show the evidence. The evidence has been submitted to the UN and we will see what happens as long as India does not manipulate the Srcurity Council.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:22pm
Pakistan is not the issue. Kashmir and East Pakistan is the issue. They have to answer the East Pakistan, TTP, Balochistan and Karachi terrorism. Pakistan needs to do counter terrorism
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Oct 01, 2015 08:23pm
Please witness the arrogance of a staff of the Indian government--Vikas Swarup.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:26pm
Going by some of the Pakistani responses , it is beyond my understanding that why are most of the Pakistanis are concerned what goes on inside of India or around us which is of no consequence to Pakistan ? Whether India is secular , anti Muslim , anti Sikh or anti sri lanka or whatever they believe that we are as long as Pakistan is not affected by any of this ? How does an extremist Hindu outfit affect Pakistan as long as we don't send terrorists to Pakistan ?
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Oct 01, 2015 08:26pm
indians singing the same old tune while they fund terrorist outfits to destabilize pakistan. Listen to what their own defense minister said once: terror to fight terror?
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Oct 01, 2015 08:27pm
Pakistan should not engage in a brawl with murderer Modi. Because Hindu terrorists kill us to vent their anger. India is in the grip of Hindu terrorism, Minorities are living in constant state of fear every day they kill Muslims on petty charges like eating meat. In Gujrat they have killed numerous Muslims in recent days blaming them Pakistani agents. Pakistani Brothers please donot fight with India otherwise they will not play cricket with you and massacre us.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:28pm
Hindu extremists are on the rise in India, sad state of affairs! I just read about a guy beaten to death cause somebody spread a rumour that he ate beef! time to wake up incredible india
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Oct 01, 2015 08:29pm
Nonsense Response as expected
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Oct 01, 2015 08:30pm
@Atam Vetta Syad Akbaruddin is not sacked. He is promoted to reoresent India in UN on permanant assignment. He will be seen often in UN now.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:30pm
@Srini Who are you to tell the Pakistanis what to do? First, feed all your people and build proper latrines for them, then open you mouth.
Atlanta
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Oct 01, 2015 08:31pm
@Ramu I must say you've summed it besy
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Oct 01, 2015 08:31pm
@waseem So go ahead and uproot RAW bro. Who is stopping you?Certainly not me. Go ahead. Cleanse the country so that we can all breathe easy.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:32pm
@Ramu : And that reflects your narrow thought from your narrow mind !
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Oct 01, 2015 08:32pm
Mr Vikas is right. We should de terrorise Pakistan first and this can be done only by destroying RAW.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:34pm
@KHAN India cannot be excluded due to resolutions # 99 & 108 & 100.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:34pm
Woww what Bollywood type reply!
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Oct 01, 2015 08:36pm
stop this blame game from either sides. most stupid people are living in this part of the world. millions of people are poverty stricken in both countries, no more wars no more blame games, let's put an end to all armed wars and initiate a total war against poverty and make this region a better place for coming generations.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:39pm
Did you demilitarize Kashmir. Over 500,000 Indian troops were and are stationed in Kashmir and at the border. The Indian army have committed so many atrocities against the people of Kashmir, don't you see that at all...oh you must be insane. The crimes committed by your troops in Kashmir will send chill in spine, yes and you know it very well Mr. Vikas Swarup. Now what India is doing in Baluchistan and India also collaborating with the Taliban and India's nefarious activities conducted from Afghanistan, we know it very well. Not to forget that your RAW is giving training to target killers to create disturbances in Sind and Karachi in particular. So do not lecture us
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Oct 01, 2015 08:39pm
Cooperation nor confrontation will solve all issues.
And patience.
There is no magic wand at work here!
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Oct 01, 2015 08:39pm
@Vijay What prosperity when the majority of the people are classified under the poverty level?
Atlanta
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Oct 01, 2015 08:43pm
I admit, the tone of the Indian spokesperson's statements could've been more conciliatory & less belligerent. I hope the Pakistani side shows maturity & ignores these statements instead of indulging in a verbal war, which is exactly what the gentleman wants.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:44pm
@RAJA Well said. The outcome will be in pakistans favour in the future. In a way no bobody will have imagined. Like Pakistan came in being against all odds. INSHALLAH.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:45pm
@Glowing Pakistan... in India Muslims or Hindus or Christian on kashmir it is one voice J&K will remain Indian takeaway at any cost.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:46pm
@Salim Khan Your PM did not say that.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:48pm
Indians will say and do what is in their interest. Enough of soft diplomacy! Its time for us to set our tome straight with them.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:50pm
First of congratulations to Pakistan Govt. for achieving the intended goal at UN session. Not a supporter of Nawaz Sharif but must applaud him for the calculated speech he delivered and judging from the responses by Indian masses and Govt., it seemed as if it did hit the Bull's eye. Pakistan wanted to internationalize the Kashmir issue and secondly wanted to expose India's non-serious attitude towards dialogue process which from what it appears now they have achieved. The message is clearly delivered to UN that a country with such a non-serious attitude towards long lasting peace in the region is unfit for permanent seat on UNSC. Pakistan must also stand behind Nepal and Myanmar, and support their greivences at international level against India as well. Practical resolve of all matters is still far fetched, but Pakistan got what it wanted. From India's perspective, I'd say they fail to catch Pakistan's bluff and now are in lime light from which they always have tried to run away.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:52pm
@Shehzad I am from India and I totally agree with you. Let us be honest, population from both countries has been hijacked by useless politicians and civil servants right from independence. We all mistakenly believe what these leaders say in public and react violently. All sane people need to spread that we are not enemies and I truly believe, Pakistan is not the enemy our leaders are the common enemy. Best wishes
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Oct 01, 2015 08:52pm
@Hindustani Muslim We don't want fight brother, and rest assured we totally understand the apprehensions you have. Nobody should live in the atmosphere of fear in a free country, and it's just unfortunate that you have to deal with such.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:56pm
@Brahmdev Vashisht But RAW is funding terrorist who are infiltrating Pakistan and causing incident . We can't neglect that. Whatever is India's internal issue should be none of Pakistan's concern, if India hold the end of bargain. However, Anti-Nepal, Anti-SriLanka, Anti-Myanmar, Anti-Kashmir, none of those issues are India's internal matter and Pakistan will be vocal and active on them.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:57pm
Modi is a very simple minded person. Can't even see that this is a good offer from pakistan. Both countries will benefit from this. I hope pakistan doesn't back down from this offer, just wait for Modi Govt to go, there will be a better leader in India to see this.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:57pm
@Imran Qasim both countries should meet and try to start a meaningful dialogue; start with low hanging fruit, P2P (people yo people) contact, free trade, ease up visa restrictions, participation in cultural event, sports, education, and Bollywood. Pakistanis are already working in India. On Kashmir issue, India should start by removing military and paramilitary forces. Revisit Kadhmir issue 10 to 15 years after.
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Oct 01, 2015 08:59pm
@Indy Why are you mad at Ramu? He's only talking sense. You should make him next PM of India, I think he possess more common sense than the person at helm at the moment.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:01pm
we have been united for 5000 years and just 67 years of seperation can not make us enemies of each other. We are seperated by history but United by geographyLet us stop bashing at each other and build bridges and bring a solution of kashmir issue. There needs to be trade and commerce between the people and benefit both countries as there is poverty and problems in both countries.
Let us join up. We in India love our hindu brothers/sisters and also sympathise with our extended family of pakistan. So bringing both together can make this region a superpower. We can create the magic of Akbar the Great by respecting and loving all religions. We will be the superpower of this world. This region of Pakistan and India will come together one day.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:08pm
So much for Aman Ki Aasha. You go your way and we go ours. India has to give independence to innocent Kashmiris sooner or later. Its their land, their right to be independent or be with any nation they want. Rest we have nothing to do with India and they should have nothing to do with us.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:08pm
@RAJA What ties??? The only ties been maintained by Pakistan is with Taliban and Sauds. What other ties do we have??? China uses us for their regional gains with India. US doesn't trust us and Russia we failed to maintained anything for decades.
Yes we have ties who gives our leaders money
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Oct 01, 2015 09:09pm
This clearly shows Nawaz did the right thing to bring the issue of Kashmir to UN. Indian been flipping shows that Nawaz Sharif was right on the dot. Good Job Pakistan should raise the issue of Kashmir on every international forum and try for the peaceful resolution of Kashmir issue.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:14pm
PM Sharif's speech was a great slap on the face of Indian terrorist government. They have nothing to say other then abusing in the state great shame and desperation.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:15pm
What does India think Zarb e Azb is all about? You can never expect courtesy from them when it comes to Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:16pm
@Shehzad well said
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Oct 01, 2015 09:16pm
I am just listening to PM Netanyahu's speech. According to Israel, Iran is the sponsor of all the terror in the world. Why? Because Iran supports Hamas and the Palestinian right to freedom. World does not believe in Netanhayu.
India says Pakistan is the sponsor of world wide terror. Why? Because Pakistan asks for Kashmir plebiscite. World does not believe India.
Israel and India. Two countries, brutally occupying a group of people and have the same exact rhetoric against someone in their neighbour who does not agree with them.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:25pm
Very childish and immature behavior -- first for PM Nawaz Sharif to take a bilateral issue to the UN violating the Simla Agreement and equally poorly responded by India.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:30pm
@Abdul Hadi ,
I totally agree with your views.Education,healthcare ,employment generation along with corruption free life is what both countries need and deserve.
Focussing on these issues rather than petty issues will make the lives better for people of the both countries.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:31pm
@Imad Qureshi Sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. Why does anyone have to waste money. As there is no progress and jobs youth will automatic embrace terrorism.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:31pm
India must stop meddling into smaller neighbors. Encouraging terrorism in Nepal will backfire soon like it had in Kashmir and Sri Lanka.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:31pm
seems like someone's behind is on fire :)
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Oct 01, 2015 09:32pm
i saw a comment here from an indian who said that a part of kashmir is in pakistan and a part is in india so both should be satisfied... i want to say him that k-issue is not a piece of bread which can be share between Friends but its the issue of life and death for more than 10 million kashmiris.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:34pm
@Ayaz Answer is no one can help unless you help yourself first.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:34pm
@N.S
De-terrorizing Pakistan is exactly what Gen. Raheel is doing, more than 2900 RAW, NDS backed terrorists dispatched to their eternal abode, many thousands apprehended. It is now India's turn to de-terrorize the nation
you fool, they were all your people. They got killed for some reason and were labelled as RAW agents and u r rejoicing? Good enjoy. You know how many Pakistanis have been eliminated since 2001?
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Oct 01, 2015 09:38pm
@Shehzad .. but none of them are any more in india..
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Oct 01, 2015 09:41pm
India is enjoying extremism and terrorism while portraying itself as a secular and peace loving country all over the world. They have a habit of shedding crocodile tears when Pakistan is on the offensive but as soon we come on the table they start enjoying extremism and terrorism. they are never sincere about peace, Pakistan should revert to Zia era policies.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:45pm
India and Pakistan both sponsor terrorism against each other. Nawaz Shariff is right when he says that Kashmir issue must be resolved finally because it would render any peace talks irrelevant. It is the root cause of every problem between the two states.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:45pm
Indian leaders keep a blind eye on the facts that numerous indian agents have been caught inside Pakistan involved in terrorist activities. Indian support of terrorism within Afghanistan, directed towards Pakistan is also nothing unknown. And what about Balochistan?
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Oct 01, 2015 09:46pm
I have to give it to Pakistan. Pakistan have been being extra nice with India always talking about peace n stability in region while India is jumping up n down for no reason testing Pakistan's patience. Pakistan must stop this nice guy nice talk and respond Indians in the way they like it. why Indians are taking advantage of pakistan being nice to them.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:47pm
@Manzoor Ahmad
India do need to do plebiscite on whole partition issue and honor TNT to its original premise. Indians were not allowed to express their wishes on granting residency to Muslims after Pakistan was specifically made for them under the able leadership of Muslim league. India cannot keep denying them the right to shift to their homeland Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:48pm
India doesn't want peace and world can not blame Pakistan if something happen. We have proof that we wanted peace but India didn't
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Oct 01, 2015 09:49pm
To deterrorise Pakistan, the terrorist training facilities and ideologies promoted and inculcated by the India to the terror outfits wrecking havoc in Pakistan need to be contained and those responsible for supporting such activities need to be punished and humiliated.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:54pm
@Sachin , Solve the issue and then every thing business .. will go up 10 times. how is that?
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Oct 01, 2015 09:54pm
The golden period for paksitan was Manmohan singh's tenure. They lost it. Now its Modi. This is the moderate response from him.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:55pm
He is completely misguided on Kashmir. Ask Kashmiris who is occupying their land. This will resolve the conflict in an instance.
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Oct 01, 2015 09:55pm
Kashmir is not the magic answer to the bigotry, extremism, corruption, poverty in the Pakistan. In fact, except under a long dictatorship like that of Ataturk, things cannot be reversed in Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:06pm
Pakistan has provided foolproof evidences to the world community and the UN of India breeding terror and making Pakistan to fight it.
What India needs is a taste of its own medicine which is fast breeding in its own back-yards.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:11pm
At least Pakistanis didn't elect a mass murderer who was not even allowed into the U.S. - now this is a tweet for twat answer we need from Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:14pm
@Ghaznavi;
You got it right. And a good suggestion (last sentence).
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Oct 01, 2015 10:18pm
More than 200 comments and all Indians support India stance while Pakistanis oppose it. Still we all live in a bubble that our country is great and rest all are dust. We should realize that we have black sheep in both countries who will never let peace prevail. Its high time we forget the differences and support messages of love and peace rather than the ones that show might of one nation upon other. If we continue feeding our ego nothing we will get out of it
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Oct 01, 2015 10:19pm
@ga
It wasn't proved in court. World believes in Indian democracy, indian judiciary. So take a chill pill. :))
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Oct 01, 2015 10:22pm
let there be peace in the region.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:29pm
@Jeeva what would you call Hindu MOB killing a father and son for eating Beef? An animal is worth more than a human? if YES, then this is only in the words of a terrorist.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:31pm
@Wasim Saqib "... Pakistan should revert to Zia era policies."
Atleast in the Zia era, the nation did not start new wars with its eastern neighbour. It is a known fact that Bhutto was the root cause of all that ails the nation.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:37pm
India just cry and show childish attitude an moodi an extremist fear from pakistan
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Oct 01, 2015 10:41pm
@jabbardoha no it won't, because kashmiris will decide their own fate. Just like a Gujarati or a tamil or a Sikh punjab would not like a kashmiri deciding their fate. Liberation of IOK is inevitable, question is just of ,when.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:42pm
Come on India, enough of childish attitude.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:43pm
The spark in his statement is a success of our statement!
Long Live Pakistan
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Oct 01, 2015 10:44pm
@lafanga well said
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Oct 01, 2015 10:54pm
Let us hold the plebiscite in the entire Kashmir and then ask the people of Kashmir who is the occupier. Let their answer decide the fate of Kashmir. India has chosen to remain blind to the struggle of the people of Kashmir who remain under India's military occupation - over 700,000 Indian soldiers permanently reside in Kashmir to crush unarmed people of Kashmir.
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Oct 01, 2015 10:57pm
There is no power on earth capable of resolving Kashmir issue than India.. And the resolve is- it is an integral part of India.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:08pm
de-modise India, everything will be normal for both the countries.
all else sever ties with them on all fronts; political, diplomatic, sporting, trading and media as well.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:16pm
India is the only country which is not appreciating Pakistan's war on terrorism and the sacrifice the Pakistan army is giving...all this proves that India is supporting terrorism in Pakistan.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:17pm
Pakistan should work with India and get benifit of the world's fastest growing economy's economic boom instead of this nonsensence. UN can't solve the issue is the truth.Imagine how an economicaly tied India and Pakistan will have its impact on the world.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:18pm
Completely correct
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Oct 01, 2015 11:27pm
Let the time decide who will need to be de-terrorized, Pakistan or India!
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Oct 01, 2015 11:39pm
Any peace is better than War. Look at the middle east with all its wealth very few have benefited. India has always been arrogant and rightly so being more powerful. But for India to succeed it needs a stable Pakistan. So more resources can be put to better use. Both Pak and India know what needs to get done. We don't have leaders. We have politicians.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:42pm
a country led by a camera freak guy cannot talk Sense any time, any where and on any issue. so let it be, let them harness their media with more gossip and tuk tuk.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:55pm
After going through comments I came to understand that still many of my country men and women are gullible simpletons, who believe in the Government sponsored history and propaganda. We Pakistanis are still bothered about what others are saying. Nit at all bothered about their own country and where it is heading
just lying and then believing in it.
Haven't we picked fight with all our neighbors? Even Brotherly Muslim countries keep us st bay. And any Pakistani who has traveled abroad knows what ix our respect.
Forget India, forget Kashmir, forget Israel and other silly things. Concentrate on developing our human resource and Infrastructure. We will only then be powerful.
Also remember "Overt patriotism is the last resort of Hypocrites".
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Oct 01, 2015 11:57pm
Yes de-terrorizing Pakistan is the best solution. This is what we are doing fighting against India in Fata, Balochistan, Karach, Peshawar and many other places in Pakistan. Hopefully our military will succeed and defeat India once and for all. There is not a single Indian neighbor with whom India have friendly relationship. Even Nepal now stood up to talk against their neighbor India.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:57pm
Same old bashing by the two sides, apart from homogeneous culture of the two nations it would not be wrong to say that both pakistanis and indians exhibit the same behavioral and attitude patterns. So pakistanis and indians,keep up with your belligerent attitude, which surely will accomplish nothing other than taking the lives of innocent men, women and children living on either side of the border, soldiers who have to pay with their blood for the perceived dignity, honor of the citizens which without doubt is casted into their heart by the vitriolic speeches of their politicians.
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Oct 01, 2015 11:58pm
same scenario will prevail even after 50 years. That is blaming games from both sides
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Oct 02, 2015 12:01am
Diplomacy is dead , one side the army decides foreign policy from its point of view and the other side uses to rake up war fever .Diplomacy is about negotiations not about sticking to a single stand .if this is the case then crash boom bang will happen soon.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:12am
@David Hook You don't understand politics
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Oct 02, 2015 12:19am
@TZaman Very sensible comment. Hope more people in Pakistan will read your comments and understand the futility of their obsession with Kashmir. Ultimately Pakistan is going to remain backward as it continues to put all development on hold until the Kashmir problem is solved while India continues to move ahead in the world because of their large numbers and better education facilities. Surely Pakistan doesnt want that to happen.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:24am
@dawood Well said. Totally agree
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Oct 02, 2015 12:28am
@Harmony-1 India took 60 years and odd to figure out its destiny. Today we know what we want and we have elected Modi. I think Pakistan should take its own time find its Modi however long it takes. My best wishes.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:30am
@Gulfraz Brave and an appropriate answer on the behalf of the world .
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Oct 02, 2015 12:32am
@Gulfraz How is it cowardly?
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Oct 02, 2015 12:33am
@RAJA Your fear and frustration is evident from Modi and India is evident.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:35am
@Love You Pakistan Please check the facts of the case. The people who killed the guy had a grudge against him. Beef was only an excuse. They are criminals who deserve to be hanged.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:36am
@lafanga That can only happen once terror onfrastructure is dismantled. Ceasefire violation happend as covering fire to aid infiltration, not because our faujis are bored. We need to realize that we are in a mess, a big mess. The politicians here dont want us to resolve this mess, they loot and at the end of the day lead lavish lives in dubai. Think about it.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:41am
@Saeed Masood it was Pakistan who choose terrorism over peace. It is their state policies to promote terrorism against other country. They have nurtured and schooled large number of people to become terrorist. They have always considered it to be their assets.now these assets have turned it in to liabilities. So no wonder, u r facing the consequences of ur own wrong deeds. That's the reason Pakistan does not get sympathies from others.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:41am
Zarb-e-Azb is already de-terrorizing Pakistan, much to India's disappointment.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:56am
Both countries need to have a dialogues without any pre conditions and understand each other issues first. This will help them to come up with a plan. Otherwise, both countries are throwing stones in the media and international community and belittling themselves.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:03am
@sbk
China has two pieces of Kashmir, the part it took from India in 1962 war, and the part Pakistan gifted it. So China also has a good 20% of the state.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:06am
@Mustafa
They are only going after the bad terrorists, the good terrorists are being left alone.
They must go after all terrorists and not make a distinction between the good, bad, and ugly.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:08am
Mumbai attack terrorists were from Pakistan and at least Kasab's family was identified in Pakistan. Osama has taken refuge near Pak military offices. Still a large number of Pakistanis from this thread believe that Pakistan doesn't share any responsibilities. This is very surprising especially as Pakistan has been a victim of terrorism as well. Why can't we join hands to resolve this ? Kashmir may be an issue but unless Pakistan realizes that terrorism is a separate issue and a problem, we can't begin the solution process.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:12am
Some sensible comments from People of Pak made my day. Happy to see people realizing that development and prosperity is #1 priority than fighting on 70 year old issue. At the same time, it is a MUST that both countries take Kashmiris on both side as part of development effort.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:17am
how can India talk of any peaceful resolution when it chooses not to even discuss the kashmir dispute.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:20am
@Harmony-1 - Well, its unfortunate, but its not a matter of niceties. Dont read too much in to it. We are watching and waiting for Pakistan to at least get the perspective right, everything else follows after that. There is no love lost. We want our younger cousin Pakistan to do well. Best wishes.
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Oct 02, 2015 02:12am
@Rahim couldn't agree more. Lets encourage them to build more.
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Oct 02, 2015 02:39am
This was a golden opportunity lost by India to have an "entente cordial" and perhaps have Pakistan support their Security Council ambitions. What do they do? Behave like a Roman Emperor looking down on the colonies. They not only read "Arthashastra" but practise it as well especially on Pakistan.
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Oct 02, 2015 02:57am
India needs to change his attitude towards Pakistan that he is USA and Pakistan is Afghanistan, it is not going to work any more.
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Oct 02, 2015 03:12am
@Saqib - And in Pakistan non muslims are murdered (e.g burnt alive) on suspicion of offending the holy book (no proof, no trial etc..).
What's the difference? Who is better?
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Oct 02, 2015 03:13am
@Smart Taurian . - UN plebiscite calls first for Pakistan to vacate its troops from Kashmir. Read the document.
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Oct 02, 2015 03:16am
@Imran Qasim what u did with hindu in pakistan. See face in mirror first before preaching others.
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Oct 02, 2015 03:25am
I am not sure why my Pakistani friends are upset with this statement... don't they want to de-terrorize Pakistan?
It really doesn't matter who is sponsoring these terrorists, isn't it in critical that Pakistan gets rid of them and their support structures? Afterall, all attackers are residents of Pakistan and getting local support in one form or another...
BTW, this is also my position when India complains about 'outsiders' causing trouble in India... it doesn't matter who is causing the trouble, it is Indian government's responsibility to eliminate and prevent terror on Indian soil.
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Oct 02, 2015 04:31am
The ""sponsor of terrorism" horse has been beaten to death. Let's talk Kashmir now - the unfinished business from the days of partition
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Oct 02, 2015 05:27am
No one in his right mind can agree more than what has been stated by the spokesman of the Indian foreign secretary.
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Oct 02, 2015 05:44am
@indian muslim : Not a wise solution! Your "ideas" will only bring more disasters --ideological ones. !
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Oct 02, 2015 05:49am
@Iqbal: It is called development!
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Oct 02, 2015 05:57am
The COAS is to be commended for eliminating significant number of snakes in Pakistan's backyard, but a large number of them could be hiding in various pits and a large number of poisonous snakes are nurtured as pet animals.
For peace and tranquillity in Pakistan all those hidden and the pet poisonous snakes must be eliminated.
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Oct 02, 2015 06:10am
@Qasim : Good Islamic scholarly post, Qasim!
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Oct 02, 2015 06:29am
@8-Pass Charlie : General Raheel Sharif for President!
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Oct 02, 2015 06:36am
@Harmony-1 : You are a great Islamic scholar, Harmony-1!
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Oct 02, 2015 06:45am
@ekram ; And who are you, Ekram, to tell Indians what to do? See? We can all argue in circular fashion !
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Oct 02, 2015 07:02am
It was recent pointed out that there are several engineering colleges in Pakistan and India that are more than 200 years. I believe that SE Asian countries like Thailand did not even have small technicians colleges till around 40 years ago. They were much poorer than Pakistan then and infra was terrible.
Look at them today: Thailands exports are $350B: mostly engineering and tech and value added. Their cities and infra is world class and standard of living is high.
Of late in the past ten years, India has realised this and the focus is on economic development.
It is said that we (and the Indians also ) are amongst the brightest people in the world. We are hard working, thrifty and family oriented. We have to focus on the economy and raise standards of living. Our workers do not have to go to other countries to make a basic living and stay far from their families.
We have to clean up our society. We cannot be sympathetic to any form of terror.
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Oct 02, 2015 09:46am
@Imad Qureshi : What happen to that dossier to be presented to UN ?
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Oct 02, 2015 09:52am
@RAJA Welcome!
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Oct 02, 2015 09:59am
If politicians cannot agree let at least the people agree. There should be a peoples forum devoid of politicians and the like. Just people from one country wishing to meet people from another country. Politicians can never deliver, its only people who can bring both countries closer.
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Oct 02, 2015 10:42am
The reality is bitter to some. The reality is, even after 100 years, Pakistan will continue to hold that part of the Kashmir, which it is now holding; Likewise, India and China will continue to hold their parts of the Kashmir.
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Oct 02, 2015 11:08am
this is the harshest response ever by India. In fact it is true too. Most of the analysts in pakistan keep saying the same over and over..
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Oct 02, 2015 12:48pm
Dear Pakistani brothers & Sisters,
Please take this Indian Foreign Ministry advice for noble cause, you have potential to become great nation not due to religion but rather on your DNA. Don’t forget you in the land where 1st world advance civilization born. Think rational and work toward your country. Friends and enemy will always there, but it should not hamper your progress and your mind.
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Oct 02, 2015 12:48pm
@RAJA sooner you do it is better for the world.
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Oct 02, 2015 01:12pm
I am curious , if India really does love Pakistan so much then how come it is so much against CPEC ?
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Oct 02, 2015 01:15pm
@Dev Yes , we are doing just that and as part of it, Pakistan has caught quite a few RAW agents which would be sorely missed in India .
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Oct 02, 2015 01:28pm
Another Indira Ghandi on the making.
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Oct 02, 2015 04:16pm
very well played by both country. we are enjoying and making time pass.
go ahead to keep entertaining our next generations also.
endless debate. Someone other country solve our problem, ridiculous thinking.
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Oct 02, 2015 05:17pm
it's no answer to peace plan..
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Oct 02, 2015 06:24pm
The world knows that india has always played an integral role in making things worse between pakistan and india and it goes on.. Modi's hate for pakistan has got no importance to pakistani Govt, Pakistan want to get things done through peace dialouge but indian leadership has exposed itself with a childish response!!
Dear India Go Get a Life
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Oct 03, 2015 06:35am
@Khurram : India is not secular because of any political party or leader. India is secular because people in this country are secular in spite of political parties like Congress and BJP. We have 250 million Muslim population who live happily with majority Hindu population.
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Oct 03, 2015 09:07am
@ga What is tweet for twat? What language you are using to post your comment?
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Oct 03, 2015 10:11am
@RAJA , I also thinks It as a best option for both countries
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Oct 03, 2015 10:29am
@RAJA Please stop supporting the terrorists. The problem will be solved itself.
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Oct 03, 2015 11:58am
Some people here says Extremist India on the rise. I would say we have always been defensive. You or your country has never seen us in our extremist avatar. Just recall the history every time it was their country which attacked but our defense was so strong that they had to back out. So you or your people haven't seen our aggression yet. But i can assure you that once we do what you have been trying to do for the past 67 years, then there won't be anything left to say for you. You have never faced us head on and you don't know what it's gonna be like. Maybe that's what Pakistan is scared of now. That they couldn't do anything to us when we were not so strong, so how can they do anything now as we are about to become a superpower and they stand nowhere.
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Oct 03, 2015 12:28pm
@M Asim plebiscite can only be held once pakistan vacates its captured territory as per the same UN Mandate. Get ur facts right.
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Oct 03, 2015 02:36pm
Both these two countries are amazing, they cannot live together, and they cannot live without each other. Solution : Bring back the Brits,
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Oct 03, 2015 02:45pm
@Zak 70% voted 4 d state assembly election n elected their govt.what more do u want.
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Oct 03, 2015 02:50pm
@Abhi There will be no plebiscite, after almost 70 years after the event. Pakistan signed Simla agreement stating it is a bilateral issue and will be resolved through negotiation after 1971 war. Then there was Lahore agreement, Ufa agreement. Talking with pakistan does not get you anywhere as the day after agreements are signed it will be not honored. No point in talking. Just ignore, develop India (including Kashmir), grow the economy and continue to improve the lives of people. By 2050, India can be a $50 Trillion economy
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Oct 03, 2015 03:49pm
They want to distract attention from their own terrorism export in Karachi and balochistan and get away with it. .
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Oct 03, 2015 05:43pm
Unless Pakistan gives up small-man mindsight and India stops living with a big-brother mindset, no real change will come in relations between both countries.
India is living under illusion of growth where majority of population is poor (development is for select few only), and Pakistan has medival mindset which will only hurt her case .. what are we gaining by supporting Kashmir cause (besides ego of military).
No solution in sight. Shame on both countries.
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Oct 03, 2015 09:29pm
@drr excellent, in that case a UN plebiscite is no problem, 70% I assume will vote for India, so don't be afraid of a plebiscite. Say, yes to it.
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