Pakistan raises Kashmir issue in Washington
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WASHINGTON: Pakistan raised the Kashmir issue in the US capital this weekend, urging India to work with it for resolving the long-standing dispute.
At a seminar at the Pakistan Embassy here, speakers warned India against changing the special constitutional status of the disputed territory and attempts to alter its demographics could have dangerous consequences. The seminar was the first Kashmir Solidarity Day event organised at the embassy in many years.
“The UN Security Council resolutions have the legitimacy of the international contract, accepted by both India and Pakistan before the international community,” said Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States Jalil Abbas Jilani.
He said that denying the people of Kashmir what had been pledged to them by the United Nations would be a violation of this international contract.
Azad Jammu and Kashmir Minister for Electricity Raja Faisal Rathore asked the international community to alleviate the plight of the Kashmiri people suffering at the hands of Indian occupation forces.
Published in Dawn, February 8th, 2015
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Feb 08, 2015 08:10am
Pakistan politician have one point agenda that is Kashmir ! they forgotten everything like terror attacks ,polio vaccination ,good education and other developments
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Feb 08, 2015 08:12am
USA must be shaking in the boot about Pakistan's warning.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:21am
is this really a news? Pakistan Embassy event was attended by 30-35 persons, mosty families of its own staff members. What a joke! Please state the facts, Mr. Iqbal...,
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Feb 08, 2015 08:33am
Dear Dawn, pl put the title properly. " Pakistan raises Kashmir issue in its Washington's embassy".....
Anyway, best of luck ambassador and electricity minister faisal, pl provide power and petrol to the Kashmir you have under your control before pointing other side.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:36am
does UN resolution also includes Pak occupied Kashmir? How about their rights to self determination? Freedom from Pak army?
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Feb 08, 2015 08:40am
Pakistan and its political and religio-political parties have been openly and brazenly interfering in the internal affairs of India by raking up Kashmir in a big way without any success.International community is well aware of Pakistan design to usurp Kashmir by hook or crook.India is a secular democratic country and accession of Kashmir to India was legal and final.UNO resolution under charter VI is not binding on any party but advisory in nature.India does not believes in two nation theory hence any concession on Kashmir is not considered possible.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:42am
Kashmir issue must be resolved immediately strictly in accordance with the International Contract. Delaying the matter means denying
the issue.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:42am
So what did Washington say?
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Feb 08, 2015 08:46am
Raise Kashmir issue every where. We want to take a sigh of relief. No more Kunanposhpora massrape, Bijbehara massacre, Gawkadal Massacre, Chattisinghpora bloodshed etc etc plz. Work before another 2010 repeated by Indian forces.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:48am
c'mon Pakistan, this is how you make your point to the world in the 21st century.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:52am
The will of the kashmiris is an important factor. And they want to study in India, get well recognised degrees and get good jobs. Many kashmiris marry off their daughters to the young army officers posted there. These ladies can then be seen hosting huge functions in other cities once the husband is posted out of kashmir. I think most people there want education, good hospitals, and jobs. And this they find in India.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:53am
Wow. In Washington??? Now we're really in trouble.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:56am
I bet NO ONE will listen. pakistan take your donation from the U.S. and come home
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Feb 08, 2015 08:56am
Boring news now...
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Feb 08, 2015 08:56am
It amazes to see that Pakistan still believes US can coerce India to give up Kashmir or hold a plebiscite there. Now any sane person would know that it is not possible, India isn't going to buzz an inch. Instead, a calm border with easier trade and travel facilities, better infrastructure would help solve the issue.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:57am
Yawnn same boring stuff all over
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Feb 08, 2015 08:58am
Is Washington Pakistan's qibla?
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Feb 08, 2015 08:59am
Yea I was there and most of the people who were there told me that Pakistan should forget about Kashmir and try to improve its economy and stay together as a country. The liquor and the Kababs were good.
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Feb 08, 2015 09:04am
I just fail to understand why Pakistan keeping mentioning UN resolutions. 1) The UN resolutions require Pakistan to vacate occupied Kashmir and withdraw any tribals from Indian Kashmir before even plebicide can be carried out. This hasn't been completed. 2) Pakistan signed Shimla agreement to resolve Kashmir issue bilaterally in exchange of returning 90000 pakistan POW.
Does pakistan has no honour that it continues to ignore it's past commitments?
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Feb 08, 2015 09:04am
These guys don't care about country fellows as much they care about these Kashmiries..
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Feb 08, 2015 09:07am
I'm sure raising the Kashmir issue in the Pakistani embassy in front of a bunch of Pakistanis will be noticed by the Obama administration, the US Congress, the American public & the world community. Good luck!
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Feb 08, 2015 09:14am
Very good..Pakistanis should raise this issue at each forum possible and inform the world about Indian crimes against humanity in Indian occupied Kashmir..
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Feb 08, 2015 09:19am
I for one don't understand why would US care? If it's about human Rights, USA/UK are the worst offender of Human Rights. Gautemano bay, illegal imprisonment in Afghan jails, Iraq war, Raymond Davis saga, drone strikes in Pakistan, Afghan occupation, salala strikes..etc.
On the other hand, Russia/China have their own problems with Muslims. Chechnya & Uighurs. With complete van on wearing Muslim symbols to observing of fasting, the prosecution of Muslims is complete. Why would they care!
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Feb 08, 2015 09:22am
What's there to resolve Pakistan ? You have yours and we have ours, lets focus on development shall we ?
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Feb 08, 2015 09:25am
@Manjeet ...and India promised to never stop Pakistan's share of water, yet that do it..where is the honor in that.
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Feb 08, 2015 09:32am
Yeah The food was good from Karachi
Enjoyed it
But people were bored
Pakistan concentrating on useless and diverting main issue.
Forget kashmir and build on economy
In the end ppl will be fed up and hate the k word
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Feb 08, 2015 09:32am
Before even raising Kashmir issue any where in the world, Pakistan needs to get back the part of Kashmir it denoted to China,
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Feb 08, 2015 09:33am
Pakistan raises Kashmir issue in Washington, and then what...?
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Feb 08, 2015 09:36am
@PREM Common Dude...He is just trying to present a larger picture...Apparently the embassy is in Washington and he wants to take due advantage of that...Thank fully he did not say that they took this up in USA
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Feb 08, 2015 09:38am
@Rashid
You will find your answer in the following link:
http://www.dawn.com/news/1128132/pakistans-water-woes-should-not-be-blamed-on-bogeyman-india
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Feb 08, 2015 09:41am
@pn awasthi ...Kashimr is NOT India's internal affair..
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Feb 08, 2015 09:43am
Good job! Keep it up! Please reclaim Bangladesh in Washington too! Please remember Bangladesh was part of Pakistan. Start from basics get Bangladesh (East Pakistan) first then Kashmir..all the best.
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Feb 08, 2015 09:50am
I wish dawn publishes UN resolution on Kashmir some day....and gives a detailed write up on that. I can see many Pakistanis demanding plebiscite based on the UN resolution. Read the resolution first....then you would understand how your government has made a mess out of it....and how they have fooled you.
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Feb 08, 2015 09:55am
If Pakistan thinks it can get Indian Kashmir by force and then there will be peace in this region then I think their intellectuals are making a very grave mistake. Will India just keep quiet ? Each and ever sooba of Pakistan will become fair game starting with Balochistan , for India. This is not any childs play. Relax .In my beilef Pakistanis are rasing this issue in order to create some pressure on India to initiate talks which is currently frozen,
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Feb 08, 2015 10:06am
@Rashid You must be very ignorant to say that India stops water of Pakistan. For a moment forget about what your hardliners says and go read some independent analysis on the internet. Indus Water Treaty(IWT) is one of the best treaties there in the world and despite very hostile relations it has stood test of time.International arbitrators look at IWT as model for other such treaty between different world countries and just to remind you IWT is more generous to Pakistan than India.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:07am
Pakistan has high influence in Indian held Kashmir. Even Indians know they dint own no Kashmir despite having7 lakh army personal present in Kashmir.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:08am
@radhakrishna Better something than nothing.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:09am
Kashmir issue was discussed in UN when Pakistan consisted of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) and West Pakistan. Pakistan was dismembered in 1971 as a result East Pakistan became Bangladesh. I wonder what is the role and responsibilities of Bangladesh in Kashmir issue? I see Bangladesh is not raising the issue of Kashmir. This may be Bangladesh is busy in developing their own country while Pakistan is making its poverty ridden public fool with Kashmir issue.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:10am
@anil they just yawned.....
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Feb 08, 2015 10:13am
Could the Foreign Office stop the Kashmir menace and work towards improving relations with India? They seem to be stuck in the scenario of 1970's. Get over it.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:17am
The Americans had to google to figure where n what Kashmir was,,,, wonder struck at his priorities
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Feb 08, 2015 10:27am
The kashmir issue started. Next it will be discussed on the sidelines of UNSC, then finally in the main forum, for resolution by plebe site.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:31am
@Manjeet all requirements will be fulfilled under UN, but India evades implementation.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:33am
Only the insincere quibble over small petty points. If sincere, call UNMOGIP, hold plebiscite and accept final result. Peace forever. Don't, then this forum from both sides of the border, represents the dislike and confrontation, which will go on forever.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:34am
Please do something else and try to think something out of the box. You people are spending most of your energy behind this dead issue in which no body are interested.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:35am
@Abhai it will happen, just accept it.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:36am
@devil not so for the families of 140,000 dead kashmiris, 60,000 missing, 20,000 raped, 100,000 maimed.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:39am
@Gfellow that was Chinese territory in the first place. Kashmiri's don't even live there, Chinese nomads do. Only a British map showed it under British empire, but was even corrected by them. Only India harps about it, and sits on territory that does not belong to it, like the 7 eastern states that belong to Burma.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:40am
@Mahendra Singh that we can reclaim India as well, as Mughals ruled it
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Feb 08, 2015 10:51am
Why are the politicians after Kashmir? We are struggling with our economy. We have exhausted our foreign reserves. We have no money to buy petrol/diesel from the Arabs. We have blackouts every second day. Everyday there is a bomb blast in some city. Nobody cares about that. It's like if we get kashmir, we'll become the undisputed superpower in the world, much ahead of US & China.
I request politicians of this country to please grow up. Stop pleading like beggars for Kashmir everywhere you go. We have already been ashamed in the four wars against India. Stop shaming us more.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:52am
Any plans for million (or billion) march in USA as well??
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Feb 08, 2015 10:56am
In fact the situation is totally opposite,Indian occupied Kashmir has got special status,for no outside person can settle over there,but in PoK the demography has already being changed,it has been filled with Punjabi's and other tribal people,no Kashmiri has left in Pakistan occuped J and K.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:02am
Pakistan embassy is considered as territory of pakistan. Is the writer doing propaganda?
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Feb 08, 2015 11:02am
100% ladak and jammu populations like stay with indian union 70 % kashmir valley resides like same stas quo .actully sir you talking for whom ?
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Feb 08, 2015 11:03am
Good try.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:07am
Are you kidding? I am sure India and US are very nervous. Who attended the seminar?
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Feb 08, 2015 11:09am
Anything new here, really?! For all these campaign to work, Pakistan has to become economically strong, prosperous and influential. This maybe a big news for those in Pakistan but outside nobody really cares.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:14am
Don't they have anything better to do in Washington? Pakistan is in dire strait and they want Kashmir.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:32am
How does it matter where the Kashmir issue is raised? Please tell us who was listening.
Is it not high time we realised no one listens to us, and think about why?
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Feb 08, 2015 11:37am
misleading headline. Pakistani embassy had a function in the Pak embassy premises and they raised the issue in presence of Pakistanis. Big deal. The headline is making it sound as if the issue had been raised to top US officials. If you had to raise the Kashmir issue like this inside your embassy, you may as well have raised the issue of the nuclear deal, siachen, sir creek, Indus water etc.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:38am
its better that Pakistan first look into their own issues of hunger, health and power first rather than asking for Kashmir.... which if goes to them will also be downgraded.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:48am
The only issue with Kashmir is that some part of it is occupied by Pakistan. I think this issue must be resolved. Pakistan should continue to raise the issue and India should do something to resolve it.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:53am
@radhakrishna It is Not the people of Pakistan. It is the deep state/establishment who has set this agenda as their very existence depends on this. The day there is peace amongst Pakistan and India where will they go?
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Feb 08, 2015 11:53am
If Pakistan wants world to believe that it attaches high importance to human rights then prove it in your own country by putting an end to all violence against minorities and come clean on support to terrorists operating in India and Afghanistan with full support from security agencies in pakistan.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:53am
Stop sending terrorists from across the border to kill military personnel which is causing more suffering to kashmiris as military will engage them and innocent kashmiris will be caught in the cross fire ,also if you are so concerned about welfare of kashmiris take them to Azad kashmir and treat them well, international community will support it whole heartedly.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:54am
Kashmir acceded to India under the Indian Independence Act when Pakistan tried to grab it in an unlawful manner by sending in raiders led by its regular Army officers. The Indian Army foiled their attempt . They tried again several times and were defeated each time.There is no dispute and there is nothing to resolve. The world is tired of Pakistan harping on Kashmir all the time. Nothing will come out of their attempt to garner support on the issue.
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Feb 08, 2015 11:59am
Pakistan shall excel beyond Kashmir issue......
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Feb 08, 2015 12:09pm
Please highlight the plight of the Kashmiris of PAKISTAN OCCUPIED KASHMIR... Search it up...
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Feb 08, 2015 12:11pm
Why are Pakistanis always so sure any referendum will go in their favor. Are Kashmiris so ready to give up their electricity? Contract polio? Get their schools bombed? To have to choose between two Sharifs, Imran Khan, and Saeed Hafeez?
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Feb 08, 2015 12:11pm
Kashmir issue raised in a seminar at the Pakistan Embassy. No big deal, anyone can call like-minded people at his home, and raise any issue about which world is least bothered.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:15pm
Pakistan should know that, USA is very much biased on India in recent times. Israel is the policy maker of USA. Now Israel has shifted USA policy towards India. USA think that they will use India against China and have already working for it. So Kashmir issue now is a vague issue in USA politics and Pakistan should realize it. Just look Bangladesh what India is doing through the present so called Awami govt. Every day govt force is killing the innocent people. They have no popularity, but they stay in power only indian support. No international organization is working for the people of Bangladesh. USA, Europe is totally silence. So what way you think USA will do for Kashmir. For not only Kashmir but for the region's security Pakistan should have to think over it with china. We think this will be real.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:15pm
Hi All, I’m from Kashmir and we really don’t want to go with Pakistan or as an independent state. We are quite happy with India and are integral part of India. Pakistan has only one agenda and that is Kashmir, let them raise their concern but, no one cares about them.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:22pm
@Zak clear case of identity crisis. Mughals ruled you too, don't have to think hard to understand that.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:28pm
Pakistani politicians and army continue this tamasha to keep the Pakistani people fooled. These Pakistanis in power do not want Kashmir issue resolved. They just want to keep it going for ever to retain power..
Apart from multiple other things, Pakistan ensured the UN resolution has no bearing ever by handing over a part of Kashmir they had to China. All this just a hogwash and the Pakistani people are getting excited for nothing.
Anyway in politics the country that prefers the status quo has the advantage. That way India is happy to keep the current borders and has a clear advantage.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:37pm
Any day of any week of any given year people of no country can be suppressed more than that in Pakistan. So you may be foolish when you talk about human rights of other people, world is not. Thank you.
By the way any planning of billion people march in near future..?
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Feb 08, 2015 12:43pm
@Rashid
what share? didn't you get recent flood which is rightfully yours? and when its shared "charity organizations" in Pakistan cry hoarse. Make your mind Uncle and be clear about what you want.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:44pm
@Zak Beggars dont claim. they can only beg!!! Keep up ....if begging becomes habit, 67 years of begging and amputation (of 1971) is nothing.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:44pm
I consider these as simple tactics to stay relevant. Reality is that the people on Indian side are much happier and peaceful. They would be more happy if Pakistan terror networks are completely eradicated.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:46pm
@Zak
Uncle, which factory did you manufacture your stats :D
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Feb 08, 2015 12:50pm
The one thing Indians stand united:Kashmir is their own land.The issue on which Pakistanis are divided and utterly confused:Kashmir is to be independent or to be part of Pakistan.
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Feb 08, 2015 12:55pm
Whether Pakistan talks about Kashmir or not, one thing is clear. Kashmir will remain on Indian psyche until they themselves recognise the simple fact that they have done wrong to Kashmiris. Not because Pakistan says it but because they believe it. Same mindset is in Israel about the Palestinians. Deep down they know they have done wrong but won't openly admit it and fix it.
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Feb 08, 2015 01:11pm
Title is mis leading.. It sounds like raising the issue in UN General assembly or G-20/G-8. It is a internal meeting and god only knows who were those 35 audience...
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Feb 08, 2015 01:42pm
Pakistan has all the right to raise Kashmir issue, but first give the people of Karachi and Balochistan the right to rule their own cities, the same torture and extrajudicial killing is happening in Karachi and Balochistan , is India doing it? Russia was more powerful than Pakistan but get disintegrated due to weak economy and brutal policies, what makes Pakistan an exception? The Pendos sitting in Islamabad and GHQ should start looking at strategic depth within Pakistan before its too late
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Feb 08, 2015 01:57pm
I have to give Pakistani,s due credit they keep raising the Kashmir issue day in and day out but unfortunately with each passing day its relevance is diminishing. In not too distant future when mankind will have futuristic colonies in space not only will Kashmir but Pakistan will become part of a single global unit and we will look back and say Boy were we stupid!
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Feb 08, 2015 01:57pm
@Zak Have you just dreamt these numbers? Please check them with
Govt. of Pakistan before making such comments on this forum.
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Feb 08, 2015 01:58pm
Why is Pakistan helk bent on digging old dead bodies. Kashmir is not part of Pakistan get over it. Fix your own house first. Stop blaming USA for everything. America is not responsible for this. Neither is Israel. Adopt the good habits from USA, maybe you might learn the true meaning of Islam. I am a Pakistani living in USA
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Feb 08, 2015 02:00pm
The truth is kashmir is further away from us then anytime in the last 60 years.
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Feb 08, 2015 02:02pm
@Zak : To start with try to reclaim Bangaladesh first..may be later you can take over entire India !!!!
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Feb 08, 2015 02:07pm
High time to raise Kashmir issue on moon. The world is already exhausted.
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Feb 08, 2015 02:12pm
Was anybody listening? Funny
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Feb 08, 2015 02:48pm
Prime Minister Narendra Modi addressing the 69th Session of the United Nations General Assembly, in New York on September 27, 2014.
China and Russia have announced its support for India in its bid to secure a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council (UNSC) and anti-terrorism plans. The announcement was made during the 13th Russia, India and China (RIC) meeting held in China.
This has been reported in Daily Mail.
Earlier, during his India visit in September last year, Chinese President Xi Jinping made a statement that he would support India for a permanent membership in the UN Security Council (UNSC) in an expanded UN Security Council. His statement was reflection of the seemingly improved relationship between the two Asian giants.
Pakistan thinks China will veto agains India,s attempt to become a
permanent member.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:03pm
Pakistan Embassy here, speakers warned India against changing the special constitutional status of the disputed territory and attempts to alter its demographics could have dangerous consequences-------- sooo cute
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Feb 08, 2015 03:10pm
@Rashid is it.. congrats and best of luck
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Feb 08, 2015 03:16pm
What is the point of this obsession that seems to dull the minds of our politicians? haven't we learnt anything in these years after independence and creation of Pakistan? Little wonder we are mired in the state we are as we focus on now totally irrelevant issue that is Kashmir. We might as well claim Bombay or Delhi. It makes no sense to our common people. Forget the K word and concentrate on what matters to us - economy, jobs, anti corruption, law and order, quelling religious bigotry, education, health, and so on.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:20pm
@Aftab Alam Khan - Okay sir. please come tomorrow at 10:00 AM.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:21pm
@Zak - I guess your grandfather told the same thing to my grand father. May their souls rest in peace.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:26pm
Speakers have warned India ????? I am really scared !!!
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Feb 08, 2015 03:27pm
@Rashid Pakistan has always go its share of the water. It is a gross mismanagement of water handling in Pakistan. Also, Pakistan has taken India to the International Court on this issue and failed to convenience the Court 90% of the times ( Google The Indus Water Treaty). And about Kashmir and the UN Resolution, Pakistan failed to fulfill the very FIRST PART of the resolution ie Pakistan to FIRST vacated all parts of Kashmir it OCCUPIES and hand them over to India. So, how can Pakistan demand for the for the rest of the resolution to be completed. Now the Resolution has become null and void due to the time lapse and events that have followed. And that is the reason Pakistan's tantrums gets thrown out of every International forum where Pakistan raises it.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:32pm
@Mahendra Singh Very witty - and I second it.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:34pm
@Izaj .And they warned India also.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:39pm
Delicious Kebabs and good booze !!
Wow, many of us would have loved to be there.
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Feb 08, 2015 03:41pm
@Zak Start with the first part of the UN Resolution. The whole world is waiting...
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Feb 08, 2015 03:59pm
Pakistan has no option left to do more on Kashmir.you have tried all.Only one option to set aside Kashmir and move forward.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:11pm
pakistani people should start working towards there bright future rather than obsessing about kashmir
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Feb 08, 2015 04:14pm
@Zak USA & China will part Pakistan like in 1971 into Baluchistan, Sindh, NWFP - wait n watch.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:16pm
@Aftab Alam Khan Balochistan, Sindh, NWFP issue must be resolved immediately strictly in accordance with the International Contract. Delaying the matter means denying the issue.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:16pm
@Rashid And what about our crimes against our own peoples? Who should they go to for this?
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Feb 08, 2015 04:29pm
@Zak Why is it all even numbers ending with so many zeroes why not other numbers like 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9 .
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Feb 08, 2015 04:30pm
Make LOC permanent border, move on. Problem solved.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:30pm
Raise your standards. Kashmir stands with India.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:34pm
@Idea Khan "The will of the kashmiris is an important factor. And they want to study in India, get well recognised degrees and get good jobs. Many kashmiris marry off their daughters to the young army officers posted there. These ladies can then be seen hosting huge functions in other cities once the husband is posted out of kashmir. I think most people there want education, good hospitals, and jobs. And this they find in India."
Excellent, so why are you afraid of a plebiscite?
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Feb 08, 2015 04:48pm
@radhakrishna points you mentioned are linked to politics and can be rectified from within. The murder, torture, maiming of Kashmiri's under indian occupation has to be dealt with, as it is not fixable until the indian invader is ousted, by peaceful UN sponsored plebiscite or violently by kashmiri freedom fighters.
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Feb 08, 2015 04:57pm
@citizen we will take over all India before Daesh takes it fully. Bangladesh, we respect the people, they still our brothers.
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Feb 08, 2015 05:02pm
"At a seminar at the Pakistan Embassy here, speakers warned India against changing the special constitutional status of the disputed territory and attempts to alter its demographics could have dangerous consequences."
This is joke right? What India does with its constitution regarding the special status of Kashmir is their business. What dangerous consequences? I don't think the BJP boys give two hoots
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Feb 08, 2015 05:13pm
billions and trillions amt of aids received by govt has been wasted in kashmir issue and making n. weapons.common people has not received their daily needed facility.people are misguiding and blaming india and western world every now and then .
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Feb 08, 2015 05:20pm
@Allaisa " The liquor and kababs were good " ............ and that was the most important outcome of the meeting. Great show.
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Feb 08, 2015 05:45pm
Become a cliche
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Feb 08, 2015 05:46pm
No longer a news outside Pak
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Feb 08, 2015 06:26pm
The best place to raise this issue is at UN, not Washington
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Feb 08, 2015 07:09pm
@Zak You are changing the subject. The point was that there are UN preconditions before plebiscite. That Pakistan has completely ignored. Even worse they donate a part to China and, some was annexed and changed the demographics. However, all that became moot after Shimla agreement. I suggest accept staus-qu or vacate your portion of Kashmir..
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Feb 08, 2015 07:24pm
@Zak "like the 7 eastern states that belong to Burma."
Lol I am from that area, a Bodo & verry much Indian.
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Feb 08, 2015 07:56pm
Time waste. What are you gaining Kashmir, Only Muslim from Pakistan would have attend for free food.
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Feb 08, 2015 08:32pm
"Pakistan raises Kashmir issue in Washington" And Washington said what? Is this a joke?
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Feb 08, 2015 08:34pm
@kck : Very well said.
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Feb 08, 2015 09:51pm
Keep up the good job. Pakistan is way hi on moral grounds, India has to give in or keep ante escalating. The issue has to be settled as per UN resolution that is Kashmir plebiscite or as per the aspirations of kashmiri people.
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Feb 08, 2015 10:11pm
@Zak Are you Moguls or Muslims ?? Decide first. Read history.
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Feb 09, 2015 02:00am
Looking to the past such actions on the part of Pakistan ,it appears to be a futile excercise .A lesson learnt from the past debunked proposed sacretary level talk on this subject is that Pakistan should refrain from talking to the Kashmiri separatists as such talks clearly show a biased approach to the problem.Pakistan should,in collaboration with India,develop a mutually acceptable line of action in the matter.
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Feb 09, 2015 02:17am
Why do we now mention the 'Simla' or the Lahore agreement? I wonder?
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Feb 09, 2015 09:30am
Did you guys forget the result of Kashmir day fiasco in London which was held in the leadership of Bilawal Bhutto? No body listened ?
Keep on banging the on the deaf ears of UN, USA and the world community. You never know. Someday somebody might listen.
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Feb 09, 2015 09:53am
Jamaat-e-Islami Hind (JIH) is an important organization of Muslims in India. The Maulana asked Pakistani people and the government to forget about Kashmir. “In this conference, the Kashmir issue continued to eclipse all other issues.
In my view, despite all your eagerness to get Kashmir, this issue cannot be resolved through war. If anyone in Pakistan believes that they can win the Indian Kashmir through war or proxy insurgency, it is not going to be possible” the JIH President said.
The cleric continued, “You have tried everything, but failed. Now the international environment is completely against you. No nation supports your stand on Kashmir. Even those powers that are your biggest supporters and who actually run your country have made it amply clear that they are not supporting Pakistan. Despite all your efforts you have failed comprehensively on Kashmir. Your claim that you will win it through war is just day-dreaming and nothing more. It is just impossible”.
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Feb 09, 2015 10:14am
Someday we will hear the news like " Kashmir issue raised in nawaz sharif's cabin".lol.pity on u
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Feb 09, 2015 10:22am
@Rashid So sue us in ICJ. LOL
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Feb 09, 2015 10:25am
@Zak The only resolution of the Kashmir issue is the return of Pakistani held Kashmir to India.
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Feb 09, 2015 02:02pm
@Rashid
Why dont you guys come out against ISIS?
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Feb 09, 2015 03:31pm
@Zak Mughal descendants are still in Delhi and India has more Muslims so dont give that nonsense, and India was not ruled by Mughals all the time. Marathas brought Mughals on knees wherever they fought. Importantly, at its peak, Mughals ruled only north India, south was mostly under Hindu/Jain rule. Mughal empire is at number 8 by size, nearly half of what was under Mauryan empire. And FYI, Pakistan did not exist before 1947, Mughals were not Pakistanis, they were Mongols not even from Multan..
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Feb 09, 2015 10:05pm
What was the snack served. Samoosa and chat. Most people showed up for the snacks I bet.
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Feb 10, 2015 10:35am
@Zak This is done many times my friend but no takers even in UN. Pakistan will be nowhere if they continue Kashmir obsession,better focus on other burning issues and address them effectively for the betterment of the people and country then raise the Kashmir issue.
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Feb 10, 2015 11:29pm
@mahen UN resolutions are about the whole of State of Jammu and Kashmir.
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