India terms Bilawal’s Kashmir statement ‘far from reality’
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NEW DELHI: India on Saturday described as “far from reality” the reported comment of Pakistan People’s Party chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari that his party would get back entire Kashmir for his country.
New Delhi also asserted that integrity and unity of the country was “non-negotiable”, the Press Trust of India said.
“We are in the process of looking forward and looking forward does not mean that our borders will be changed. We made it very clear that as far as we are concerned, the integrity and unity of India is non-negotiable,” Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin said.
He said the comment was “far from reality which takes us back into the past century”.
Mr Zardari was quoted as telling his party colleagues on Friday that the PPP would get back the entire Kashmir from India.
“I will take back Kashmir, all of it, and I will not leave behind a single inch of it because, like the other provinces, it belongs to Pakistan,” he said.
When he made these remarks, PTI said he was flanked by former prime ministers Yousuf Raza Gilani and Raja Pervez Ashraf.
The PPP officially wants good ties with India.
Published in Dawn, September 21st, 2014
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Sep 21, 2014 08:01am
He must understand that Jammu and Kashmir neither wants to be with India nor with Pakistan , they just want to have a seperate nation
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Sep 21, 2014 08:02am
Bilawal is now learning Indo-Pak politics.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:13am
i thought he was the only sane voice in Pakisttan and was one of the first few leaders who opposed TTP but he turned out to be another typical politician. Looks like he is getting desperate.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:23am
Communists say"religion is opium of the masses". It applies for Pakistanis and Indians too for their obsession for Kashmir.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:27am
Imran Khan of PTI wants to become PM, and now Bilal Bhutto Zardari of PPP, too wants to become PM, very desperate. By promising, commitment about Kashmir, I am sure, most Pakistanis must be laughing out loud and some may be rolling on floor loud.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:29am
Why India and its covert supporter UK won't let a (Scotland style) referendum go forward in Kashmir as suggested by the UN
Kashmiris are our people and shall join their motherland Pakistan one day
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Sep 21, 2014 08:55am
He's got confidence on stage. A glimpse of Bhutto. Very typical politicians speech. Kashmir ka naara. Sindh ka naara , marsoon marsoon -- playing with people's emotions , anti India naara -- trying to put spark in PPP Punjab. May be so. But as is PPP is probably done in Punjab ang KP. He may have Bhuttos name and karisma but people around him are sooo unwanted that easily counters Bhuttos karisma. Either he should give up Punjab or change all the PPP Punjab leadership.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:57am
Pakistan's Rahul Gandhi! Shoot's from the mouth first. Asks questions later. ;-)
Scary world if both of these jokers come to power...
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Sep 21, 2014 08:58am
PPP's version of "baby talk"....
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Sep 21, 2014 09:27am
Liars. Playing with the people's sentiments....
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Sep 21, 2014 09:31am
Finally a candidate i can vote for wholeheartedly.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:33am
His grandfather did contribute to the loss in 1971 and he may be up for the gain! This young man needs some grooming by his elders in the party.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:39am
At least a non vitriolic and cool headed response rather than Mr Bhutto's
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Sep 21, 2014 09:41am
So now how are we supposed to know which 'Mr. Zardari' is making the statement? Maybe they should call Bilawal 'Zardari jr.'
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Sep 21, 2014 09:44am
Yet Another royal progeny, but same mediocre intellectual wisdom. Before worrying about Kashmir you should find ways to improve the lives of your citizens.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:45am
Indian should not get irritated with Bilawal's assertion. He is not the 1st person to say that. The reality is evident from the presence of your large number of army in occupied Kashmir to maintain forcible occupation. Whatever said is very much close to reality!
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Sep 21, 2014 10:12am
Give statements on your country's development plan instead of these useless statements.. there are million other things to sort out in your country !!
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Sep 21, 2014 10:29am
@Ifthikar Exactly. Pakistan needs physical progress in terms of economic emancipation, ensuring political sustainability and maintaining better laws and order. This silly talks will not help in achieving all these parameters; rather this will help in enhancing the military budget instead.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:32am
Yep just like PPP got entire Dhaka back from India in 1971.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:36am
Indian News channels are making big fun of his statement.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:40am
same old rhetoric statement... enticing people in the name of politics... wonder what your forefathers achieved while they were in power... NOTHING...one thing for sure.,,,You got a lot to lose. You when you work with fake politicians with no credibility...would you be able to change any thing i doubt it ....
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Sep 21, 2014 10:41am
Bilawal Bhutto is Rahul Gandhi of Pakistan. Nobody care even in Pakistan.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:41am
Bilawal is an ill-informed lad making desperate attempts to find an appropriate slogan. As far as Kashmir is concerned, no body gives you freedom, you have to take it.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:44am
Rahul gandhi of Pakistan
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Sep 21, 2014 10:53am
V good, aim higher Mr Bilawal, please take away the entire India.
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Sep 21, 2014 11:03am
very sad. PPP said this because they have raised each and every slogan. now this was left behind so they claimed. they want to tackle voters. but they donot know the pakistani's are so woried about roti, kapra, makaan that this hollow slogan will not attract them Mr.zardari. now they need basic rights. and PPP was sleeping in last five years of its goverence.
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Sep 21, 2014 11:05am
Bilawal...man you made my day...bravo!!!
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Sep 21, 2014 11:09am
Never Mind, Clueless,
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Sep 21, 2014 11:39am
PPP should worry about the agony of the people of inteior sindh. Situation in interior sindh is chaotic and people are deprived of basic neccesities of water and severage system. Its better billawal starts thinking of his poverty stricken people first.
But how can a feudal mindset do that !
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Sep 21, 2014 11:58am
@Rajab Ali The really is also evident from the presence of Pakistani Army in the entire Pakistan..
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Sep 21, 2014 12:00pm
So far pak has won the first round i.e. imran khan 'overtook' kejriwal...but I am sure in second round rahul Gandhi will give tough competition to bilawal bhutto zardari.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:10pm
Kashmiri separist has been clear to the US diplomat on wikileaks that they want Kashmir to be with India but at the same time encase money from Pakistan.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:11pm
Twitter joke circulating in cyberspace - even if he gets all of Kashmir "back", he'll still have to give 10% to his father!
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Sep 21, 2014 12:13pm
May be he doesn't know what he is tailking about.Think otherwise.what if India decides to break pakistan into many smaller nations.Not an impossible thing considering what is happening in Pakistan now.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:14pm
Bilawal statement was just a political rhetoric, not a serious statement. People of Kashmir deserve to exercise their right of self-determination as granted in the UN resolutions. Both India and Pakistan have no right to keep Kashmir occupies against the will of Kashmiries people.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:16pm
@Salari please explain why kashmiris are your people.Also please clarify if only muslim kashmiris are your people.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:18pm
Politicians must fear God and stop lying and playing emotions of simple and illiterate public...lying in front of them is the easiest thing they can do as they have safe havens and backup plans already in place for exit.
Mess with Pakistan..take asylum abroad..thats the way of our corrupt politicians.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:38pm
@Rajab Ali And what your air-force and army doing in waziristan? By he way, India can manage hings without using air force because we care about human lives!!
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Sep 21, 2014 12:38pm
A book that has a shining cover is often without substance. This was his entry into politics so he needed a catchy start. Looking at his speech delivery seemed more like a high school kid in a debate contest who didn't remember all his lines. Lucky for him his pages were in order
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Sep 21, 2014 12:39pm
do you believe liers? here it is Billawal of Zardari...
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Sep 21, 2014 12:49pm
@Sailay : No they should call him Mr 20% of future.
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Sep 21, 2014 12:51pm
@Ifthikar : do they have any plan? what can you expect from them?
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Sep 21, 2014 12:51pm
Cheap political agenda
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Sep 21, 2014 01:03pm
@Salari
KASHMIRIS ARE NOT ONLY MUSLIMS.DID YOU KNOW THAT ?!
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Sep 21, 2014 01:07pm
One should only laugh to his comments. Nobody takes him seriously in Pakistan even. As a matter of fact, he does not know what he speaks as he reads out the chits given to him, if you ask him the meaning he wont be able to give so.
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Sep 21, 2014 01:11pm
His Grand Father, Mother and Father ruled Pakistan. They could not achieve this task. Poor boy.
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Sep 21, 2014 01:11pm
Bilawal's father must advised him - "Beta kuch to bol" to gain the political mileage. Else this IK and TUQ guys will all set for themselves amid defeat in inquilab and aazadi march.
Wait for couple of weeks, MQM too will put up statement.
All other political parties also wants to ensure - "We too here in Pakistan's politics" and hence this kind of statements comming out.
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Sep 21, 2014 01:16pm
why india has so many soldiers in Kashmir?
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Sep 21, 2014 01:17pm
why cant india hold an independent referendum in Kashmir like the one just done in Scotland?
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Sep 21, 2014 01:42pm
india cannot hold independent referendum like scotland because in such case india would first have to drive out all the army from kashmir. In the presence of army there can never be independent voting...
This is the same thing Pakistan have been formally presenting in UN and UN have been agreeing to us, we accepted all & india refused all of the last 11 UN resolutions to neutralize the disputed grounds.
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Sep 21, 2014 01:51pm
Stupid comment from a young boy who thinks he is a man.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:00pm
India mein Rahul Gandhi congress party ko duba dega. ... aur pakistan mein Billawal people's party ko duba dega... He is biggest pappu of pakistan. Tell him to go spend time with Mrs. Rabbani khar...
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Sep 21, 2014 02:10pm
He's 26.........what did you expect ?
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Sep 21, 2014 02:13pm
So the next election slogan of PPP will be "Roti, Kapda, Makaan aur Kashmir". Look who is talking about taking back Kashmir? Well, the family history proves otherwise (1971).
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Sep 21, 2014 02:25pm
@asgher ... Because its our territory...
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Sep 21, 2014 02:43pm
Similarity - Both Rahul and Bilawal are PreKG drop outs and both Sonia and Zardari are LKG depromoted...
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Sep 21, 2014 02:47pm
@asgher
Seems you have lot of doubts.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:48pm
@Rattan
Salari don't know any thing. So he can't clarify your doubt.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:48pm
@Salari You Pakistanis are our people, and will join India one day. Waiting to welcome you.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:50pm
@asgher No such question arises as since last 50 yrs its not on un agenda.
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Sep 21, 2014 03:09pm
@asgher Why Pakistan has so much soldiers in Lahore, Quetta, Islamabad. Why cant Pakistan have a referendem in Balochistan, Sindh, FATA, Waziristan..
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Sep 21, 2014 03:12pm
Bhilawal looks unhinged, in spite of his education. It also speaks very poorly of his advisers. PPP seems to be going down hill.
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Sep 21, 2014 03:14pm
@asgher
will you do the same in Baluchistan?
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Sep 21, 2014 03:16pm
@asgher only in parallel world...
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Sep 21, 2014 03:30pm
India is right; their borders should be non-negotiable same as any other nation state. But Kashmir does not have a border. That's why they call it the 'Line of Control'. See the difference? As you were, folks!
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Sep 21, 2014 03:32pm
Prince Bilawal got the attention. Job well done!
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Sep 21, 2014 03:35pm
@asgher That is correct,there is a point but I do not think Kashmiris will vote in favour of joining Pakistan,may be they will vote for an in depended Kashmir or will prefer to stay with India.
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Sep 21, 2014 03:42pm
Dear Indian readers, please ignore this clown. No one takes him seriously in Pakistan.
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Sep 21, 2014 03:44pm
Hey, I am developing some respect for this politician. The Indian statement was immature as usual. India cannot invade a country like Kashmir and then call it part of India. India is not a nation nor country but a sub continent with different nations within it. Supposedly, those who agreed to remain within it voted to do so. Kashmir did not-hence the UN resolutions which means an international issue. It is not what India wants but what Kashmiri's want. Until India realises that, it will be left behind diplomatically and economically. After Scotland, Kashmir is next!
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Sep 21, 2014 04:23pm
Slogans Slogans.
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Sep 21, 2014 04:39pm
Oh well Bilawal , why couldn't your party in last 5 years, don't make yourself much of a laughing stock!
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Sep 21, 2014 04:43pm
Even if we do get Kashmir, what will we do with it? We couldn't manage Bangladesh, we can't manage Pakistan. The Kashmir issue is over, discuss and solve the issues of Pakistan
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Sep 21, 2014 04:57pm
if pakistan can't kill us with weapons and nukes, they'll sure kill us with laughter. .
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Sep 21, 2014 04:57pm
@Salari
why don't you first do it in pak occupied kasmir,baluchistan,waziristan etc etc
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Sep 21, 2014 05:03pm
@Pakistani are you taking about ZAk? Not me correct?
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Sep 21, 2014 05:18pm
@Ahmed USA,plz ask Bilawal how many People's Guards Infantry he has mobilized for this purpose?.Veteran PPP and PML N workers are sick and tired of their respective leaders,plz wake up to this reality.
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Sep 21, 2014 05:20pm
@AN
If some other country claims Balochistan based on some solid historical evidence that they were supposed to be part of the other country during partition etc etc they sure why not!
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Sep 21, 2014 05:23pm
@zak.. You are a big cartoon or joker, n here I come to just read ur MSG, kuch kaam kar le bhai... Do not dream so much,,
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Sep 21, 2014 05:34pm
Bilawal is trying to get international media attention by making such foolish statements. This wont work!
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Sep 21, 2014 05:35pm
@zak After Scotland,it is the turn of Baluchistan and Sindh.
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Sep 21, 2014 05:38pm
@Valiya
I totally agree with your idea. Lets remove the armed forces factor from the equation and let the people decide through independent referendum. We have been supporting this line and india have been denying it since last 11 resolutions. A Sad Fact..
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Sep 21, 2014 05:43pm
@Salari
Will Pakistan survive that long?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:01pm
Can he please shed light on how he plans to achieve this ?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:09pm
@asgher why Pak has so many soldiers in Ballochistan and Afgan borde? Bilwal should also say that he will bring Bangladesh back.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:09pm
@Rattan: Not just Kashmir's but all the Muslims , Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhist, Jain, Hindus etc. Citizens of India are patriot Indians. We are all children of Mother India.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:12pm
@zak : What about Baluchistan ? Should Pakistan not lead by example ?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:13pm
Childish...no idea what he is saying and wants to become PM...please think before you say it
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Sep 21, 2014 06:14pm
@asgher And that will certainly bring India as world's biggest true democracy should a deferendum be held in Kashmir per UN signed and agreed by both India and Pakistan!
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Sep 21, 2014 06:16pm
He should first get the money from his Dad's swiss account back to Pakistan and then talk about politics
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Sep 21, 2014 06:17pm
@Jatin
Who says Pakistan has army in these areas? We have lahore islamabad police and rangers to protect and serve the public.
No city of Pakistan is under the governance of Army. if army exists they may because of some regional head quarter but not on duty.
Your soldiers are specially deputed in kashmir.
Stop talking nonsense here please!!
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Sep 21, 2014 06:19pm
@zak India is not a country? India is one of the oldest countries in the world. Balochistan after Scotland..
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Sep 21, 2014 06:19pm
Dear Bilawal, Talk to Mahesh Bhatt, as he is very fond of giving Pakistani artists chance in Bollywood. You can land a role of comedian.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:24pm
@asgher No one have to claim balochistan as their own..Its a separate country..
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Sep 21, 2014 06:27pm
@asgher Why is Pakistan sending terrorists in Kashmir?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:28pm
@Salari because you can't have a referendum after butchering all the kashmiri hindus or driving them away. Most kashmiri families don't want to return unless the mujahideen leave
If the british killed the scots and then asked for a referendum would that be fair
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Sep 21, 2014 06:31pm
@asgher did you even read the UN resolution and understood what it says or you are just spewing what you were told?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:41pm
Comments like his and Rahul's prove that you have to earn your position...... Not get it just because of who your parents are. That is why modi is respected in India. He paid his dues.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:45pm
Kashmir has already been sold to the Pak people and they bought it. Who is going sell development and good governance?
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Sep 21, 2014 06:48pm
@Salari Just because most of them are Muslims, doesn't mean they are Pakistanis. Most Pakistanis are hindus who were converted by Afghanis, Uzbekis. DO we want you back? No.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:49pm
@Salari thats because hindu pandits were killed and kicked out of kashmir, thats not the case with scotland
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Sep 21, 2014 06:55pm
@Silajit agree
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Sep 21, 2014 06:56pm
Agree
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Sep 21, 2014 07:06pm
He is the Rahul Gandhi of Pakistan.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:09pm
Pakistan is also producing some pappus rather than concentrating on economic development of pakistan and ensuring it does'nt disintigrate in the hands of taliban and isis he is cracking jokes.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:18pm
Once they had termed creation of Pakistan "Far from reality" too! Kashmir will soon be liberated
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Sep 21, 2014 07:19pm
His granddad Bhutto uttered similar statements but got the rope in the end. It's easy to talk about taking over Kashmir but very difficult to do it.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:20pm
@Ikram Very well said..
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Sep 21, 2014 07:25pm
@Salari
I like the thought.... By the way where do you get such inspirations?
Think that 1.25 billion strong economy will remain mute?
Welcome to kindergarden Salari...:)
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Sep 21, 2014 07:32pm
Knowing PML-N days are numbered, PPP have started their election campaign for 2015.
Removed Musharraf to bring in PPP. Now remove PMLN to bring back PPP. Pakistanis won't ever learn.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:49pm
Can we get hurriyat to chime in?
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Sep 21, 2014 07:55pm
Billu has his brains in his mouth. Last time there was a war and Pakistan lost one third of the country. Odds are even bigger now. How about " Education, Equality, Healthcare, Security, Stability, International standing as a honorable nation" Getting all of this or at least getting some of it before blabbering over all of Kashmir.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:55pm
This little pretty boy should go back to his cot.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:02pm
Khayaal acchha hai Galib ,,,,, Dil behlane ko.....
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Sep 21, 2014 08:11pm
Wondering what Zardari did for Pakistani cause of Kasmir, when he was President for 5 years?
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Sep 21, 2014 08:20pm
Political statement, just to stir the common people. HIs grandfather 'Zulfiqar bhutto' showed dreams of grandeur and promised the impossible. But people are not going to buy this nonsense anymore.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:21pm
It's nothing more than bluff and cheap publicity drive.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:25pm
Immature statement to create a controversy so that he can project himself into the limelight.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:40pm
@zak FYI Kasmir was attacked by Pakistan and not India. Ruler of Kashmir came to India with his own will.
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Sep 21, 2014 08:42pm
@zak : sir you need to learn both sides of story..
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Sep 21, 2014 08:44pm
Many here talk about UN resolution but never read it opr tried to find out what it is . So go through this link and see who actually has gone against it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_47
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Sep 21, 2014 09:03pm
Who is stopping them now, go ahead and take it. Sunny boy first you take Kashmir than we will make you PM.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:10pm
2nd slogan, 'MARSOO, MARSOO-ASAN KUJ NA KARSOO' Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com
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Sep 21, 2014 09:28pm
Whenever a politician promises to make a bridge over a river which does not exist, one can bet his/her political career would soon be over.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:31pm
@Zak; you are the most intellectually endowed person on the earth, i think.
Your comments and ideas swell with great knowledge of the dubious kind.
Pl. have a life and some work to do. You provide big comic relief on this forum. If that is your profession, then it's fine !
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Sep 21, 2014 09:52pm
Inane comments of one who lacks gravitas and strength of character, and makes up for it by bluster and inane comments.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:54pm
@Sunil no one laughs at the suffering of Kashmir.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:56pm
@Rajab Ali Friend, just a question. Pakistan deploys/deployed Army everywhere, including SWAT and Baluchistan. from your logic, these regions do not belong to Pakistan.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:58pm
@Valiya you are wrong, half of Kashmir is Azad now only the other half left still under foreign Indian occupation.
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Sep 21, 2014 09:58pm
@Salari , yes Kashmiris can walk down to Pakistan and join them as Kashmir is not their motherland rather they are all migrants from Afganisthan centuries ago. Please stop claiming others land.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:00pm
@dipak its been on UN , international, OIC , Pakistan, Indian , Chinese, US agenda every year. Where have you been living, where there is no real news, oh, I guess , India.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:43pm
Bilawal said, 'Main kuchh na kar soo bus marsoo marsoo'. Iqbal Hadi Zaidi / Former Diplomat / zaidiformerdiplomat@hotmail.com
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Sep 21, 2014 10:48pm
lol
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Sep 21, 2014 10:50pm
@Salari nothing makes sense at all to me as Kashmiri . History tells about Bangladesh and muhajirs
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Sep 21, 2014 10:51pm
@Zak hope there aren't many more like you voting for war mongerers
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Sep 21, 2014 10:51pm
@Jatin The security is not reality but its perception and tell me Jatin which pakistani city can claim of security perception, well Mumbai can.
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Sep 21, 2014 10:53pm
@Rajab Ali how's pok doing
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Sep 21, 2014 11:25pm
Is it in our genetic code to produce imbecile politicians? What good did an Oxford education do this man? What a waste of education!
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Sep 21, 2014 11:37pm
Pakistan is replica of India. Here kejri there khan, here gandhi there zardari.
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Sep 21, 2014 11:49pm
I only wish for someone to have asked a simple question. How does the PPP plan to re-take the entire Kashmir from India? But I'm not sure if any PPP worker would be allowed to ask such a simple question.
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Sep 21, 2014 11:53pm
And.I thought Rahul Gandhi is the only one ....who makes remarks that cannot be followed upon?
Dynasties and their failings,I suppose?:):):)
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Sep 21, 2014 11:54pm
@Zak Sure..and keep Pakistan mired in situations that could prove it's ultimate undoing???:):)
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Sep 21, 2014 11:57pm
@Parvez Twenty six a very good age to ruminate on things that are wrong with Pakistan and bring in fresh thinking and really FRESH ideas? Not flog a very old dead horse???:):):)
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Sep 22, 2014 12:02am
@Ramesh and he might meet the same fate, if Pakistanis are lucky.
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Sep 22, 2014 12:06am
@Abhijeet Why are you comparing apples with oranges?
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Sep 22, 2014 12:12am
@Uxman, Don't add Jammu and Ladak please. They want to stay in India. They never pelt stone at Indian army. It is just Srinagar and that's it. It is a religion based craving just like we had one 70 yrs ago
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Sep 22, 2014 12:28am
@Ashok R.Prabhu Let's not forget the 'Frontier Province', that should leave Punjab for Pakistan!
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Sep 22, 2014 12:44am
O Yaar isko waapis Dubai bhijwaao.
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Sep 22, 2014 12:50am
Bilawal Bhutto Zardari , such a brave man, he will go to Kashmir with his P.P.P Jialay and Sindhi Vadera Army and in no time he will capture the whole Kashmir. Vow what a hero.
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Sep 22, 2014 12:59am
@zak
Pakistan too.. Punjab pakistanies does not like paluchis,,,paluchees they don't want to stay with Pakistan...IO also heard another two state also have problem,,Pak army wants to loot the money in the name of Army budget...see what happen next ????
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Sep 22, 2014 05:44am
@Karachi Wala.. Bilawal I think realized that kashmir issue is the only issue in pakistan which can keep him active in politics.
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Sep 22, 2014 10:42am
If India really wants then there would many countries created from Pakistan in near future. But India is concentrating on development of its people. So Pakistan is lucky.
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Sep 22, 2014 04:22pm
@Zak No You got wrong. Blame it on Madrasa education. Half with Pak is occupied illegally by the terrorists...i.e. PAK
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Sep 22, 2014 04:38pm
@Salari take away your kashmiris , kashmir will remain with India as it has been for thousands of years.
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Sep 22, 2014 07:08pm
Bhai ek ghar (Pakistan) toh sambhal nahi raha hai. Dusra kay sambhaloge. Brother you can not manage Pakistan and talking about Kashmir. Please keep you home in order.
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Sep 22, 2014 08:32pm
Kashmir issue aside,
I was feeling very bad that we have to bear with Rahul Gandhi. But now it seems that you have a Rahul Gandhi of your own.
Brilliant.
And by the way IK is not too far off from Kujriwal.
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Sep 22, 2014 08:37pm
Scotland type referendum and democracy in general works well, only when we have well educated people with a good world view .
So, a referendum with gullible people and demonic politicians, is a recipe for disaster.
Maybe that is why there is not one in the first place. UN understands this as well.
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Sep 22, 2014 08:50pm
@Rashid 1947 and 2014 are not the same.
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Sep 22, 2014 09:26pm
@Hero so it's not only me who come to this web site to read Zak's comments..it's really entertaining, is he a grownup?
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Sep 22, 2014 09:47pm
@asgher because Kashmir is not Scotland and India is not Great Britain.
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Sep 22, 2014 11:36pm
Looks like the kid was feeling neglected with all the attention being on Imran, Nawaz etc. & decided to make a ridiculous statement in order to get noticed. Indian leaders should not have given him any importance!
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Sep 23, 2014 12:23am
@Rashid Just like 71 ?
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Sep 23, 2014 01:02am
@Karachi Wala: Best Reply / Comment I have read on dawn.com. Shows that people with depth in thoughts exist even across the border.
Regards
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Sep 23, 2014 01:20am
@Azmeen Kashmiris are Indian ..so the whole country has a say in it .. we cannot keep on sectioning this part of the region .. based on religion any more ..we did that already with Pakistan and the experiment has failed big time.
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Sep 23, 2014 05:52am
@Avijit at least this way India pakistan will become one
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Sep 23, 2014 07:00am
@Salari - Funny!
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Sep 23, 2014 07:01am
@Zak - you want to waste your vote it is your choice :)
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Sep 23, 2014 07:42am
@Salari so true
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Sep 23, 2014 09:02am
LOL ... soo childish ...
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Sep 23, 2014 09:52am
Pakistan is so lucky to have a leader like Bilawal.............. I wish one day he becomes the prime minister of Pakistan..................... .so there will be no need for foreigners to worry about Pakistan...... Bilawal is enough to show Pakistan its destiny............
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Sep 23, 2014 11:24am
@FactBoy - Your response regarding the Scottish Referendum. WRONG answer
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Sep 23, 2014 12:11pm
Weldone Bilawal.Kashmir is our Sharug.
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Sep 23, 2014 03:35pm
Meanwhile Bilawal Bhutto jokes are trending in twitter.
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Sep 23, 2014 03:36pm
@Uxman
But want Pakistani blood to achieve it, right? I would have nothing to do with these traitors.
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Sep 23, 2014 04:32pm
He is a kid who has no clue about Pakistan, or anything else.
he does not deserve to be called a Pakistani.
But then that is Pakistan for you.
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Sep 23, 2014 05:32pm
A kid living in a foreign land will come and save Pakistan ? from what ... What happened to people in Pakistan , they can't produce real leaders ? Can't you become a leader in Pakistan without saying outrageous things ? People of Pakistan think before you support anyone ,, otherwise life will not change, only leaders will change at the helm.
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Sep 23, 2014 06:53pm
175 comments and counting!!!! C'mon people, enough debating let politicians do some work too.
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Sep 23, 2014 07:57pm
@AdHawk Yes, because India is not happy by leaving the other half of its territory for Pak. Sometimes in future the control can go forward to make sure that the buffer zone is enough to protect the rest of the India
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Sep 23, 2014 09:36pm
we have our children to feel to speek
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Sep 24, 2014 12:03am
@Rajab Ali every one has right to dream.....................
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Sep 24, 2014 12:05am
@Ahmed USA
and help take every inch of USA in your cab
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Sep 24, 2014 12:06am
@asgher because we are not GREAT BRITS
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Sep 24, 2014 12:08am
@Azmeen who said so go ask.................abdooolahs first
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Sep 24, 2014 06:13am
@asgher : For the same reason that Kurds are NOT given independence referendum by Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Turkey! Think!
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Sep 24, 2014 06:14am
@Singh : Please --NO!
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Sep 24, 2014 08:02am
I support Bilawal. His grandfather had said we will fight for a thousand years till we get Kashmir but some of us are already showing fatigue within less than 70 years. They should remember the sacrifices of our Suhada should not go in vain.
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Sep 24, 2014 08:26am
Plz ignore Zak's comments as he gets into indo-pak rhetoric even if it is a discussion on some movie...
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Sep 24, 2014 09:12am
@Salari Bro, I am an Indian Hindu and a Bhramin, I swear by our God Mahadev, that the partition of India was on Hindu-Muslim
division, Kashmir (and not Jammu) should have gone to Pakistan but that alos entailsall of the Muslims. Take kashmir
and the 25 crores Muslims and let us leave in peace.
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Sep 24, 2014 03:18pm
@Zak vote with 10% extra. Get the drift buddy?
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Sep 24, 2014 03:20pm
@asgher Read the history and than put in your comments
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Sep 24, 2014 03:23pm
@zak now I know the true meaning of day dreaming. Tnx buddy.
By the way I was expecting your pearly comments on India's achievement of sending successfully MOM to Mars. Can you please spare your time for that. Thanks
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Sep 24, 2014 04:12pm
it is not easy to get Kashmir by Pakistan. If this is only a political expression then it's ok. Now Kashmir has 6 parts. First all regions must assemble. 3 in India Jammu, Kashmir valley and Ladakh. 2 is in pakistan POK and Gilgil Balistan an one is with China i.e. Akshai Chin. As far as Jammu and Ladakh is concerned public mood is with India as Hindu and Bauddh papulation is in majority. In India Kashmir now growing anger against Pakistan due to various reason. Shiyas are not given proper share and respect in Valley. Indian Kashmir is prosperous to their counterpart. In Srinagar region people wants a separate nation, not with Pakistan. Even their is growing concerned in POK against Kashmir. i think it's very difficult for Pakistan to get control of whole Kashmir, even public opinion is also badly fractured.
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Sep 24, 2014 07:12pm
@Rashid What would happen to liberated Kashmir? It would be game for ISIS. At best it would be like Pakistan or Afghanistan.
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Sep 25, 2014 12:12am
So sad to hear young educated leaders talk like this, we still so far away from peace..really heart breaking
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Sep 25, 2014 07:39am
@asgher well we did , you can do whatever you want
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Sep 25, 2014 08:35am
@zak haha u musilms are outsiders in kashmr
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Sep 25, 2014 09:23am
@Ifthikar well said Ifthikar..........this guy plays selfish politics
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Sep 25, 2014 09:26am
@asgher asgher ...........memmorandu can be done in Pakistan with Taliban
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Sep 25, 2014 09:32am
You first save your people from blasts by Taliban and other extremist
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Sep 25, 2014 09:34am
@Uxman who want separate nation? only gilani want separate nation.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:02am
@Anil for India it is politics, for Pakistan, it is about the suffering and brutal oppression of a people, who under UN have yet to decide their future, which India the invader is denying.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:12am
@Manjul Pant you a Gujarati cannot decide for the nation of Kashmir because its not your territory.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:13am
@Rattan Kashmiri people are our people because they want to be, their flag incorporates the flag of Pakistan.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:17am
@Hero good you come to read, on this Pakistani forum, to learn truth, not what lies given by your press. Jokers hide from truth and live in make believe world.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:29am
@Gnanesh is that all you can respond with, shows your level of intellect. Abuse is the last refuge of the ignorant, and I see many of your countrymen in that category.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:31am
@Ravi Dallas TX both of Us need to learn only one side of the story- the Kashmir side, and then learn to respect their decision.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:32am
@Jag comment that makes no sense, and using up valuable forum space. Go back to your forums.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:33am
@Rao longer than India, considering one third of the country is lawless and not under government control in the east.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:34am
@Meow not voting for war, but peace, which will come by Kashmiris voting.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:36am
@FactBoy no similarity between either of these. Pakistan has its own dynamics, India is alien culture to us.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:39am
Neither your grandfather nor your mother have capabilities, Mr Bhutto.....Your grandfather done a mistake in 1971 & lost entire East Pak. Now if you will do, then understand what happens may west Pak also.......If you say that Kashmir belongs to PAK and we have it....then whole PAK belongs to India...we will also have it.....
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Sep 25, 2014 10:41am
@sisir only one way to find out, lets hear Kashmiris voice by vote. We will know the truth. Only those who have something to hide will deny it to them. Guess which one, avoids the UN resolutions.
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Sep 25, 2014 10:46am
@Samrita because I speak for 140,000 dead and 60,000 missing Kashmiris which you people have the audacity to ignore and disrespect them simply because they are Muslims. That is why 750,000 Hindu troops are needed to oppress them.
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Sep 25, 2014 11:34am
@pete if non UN resolution states are included than lets include Khalistan, Assam, Jharkand, Nagaland, Manipur, Goa, Sikkim etc etc. India will unravel, better you all just stick to UN resolution on Kashmir.
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Sep 25, 2014 11:35am
@Jatin because these are not under UN resolution. And Pakistan army is in cantonments unlike in Kashmir, Assam, Chatisgarsh, Sikkim where the army is on the streets suppressing the nations.
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Sep 25, 2014 01:47pm
@Ahmed USA But how ?
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Sep 25, 2014 01:54pm
@zak Not satisfied with four previous tries ?
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Sep 25, 2014 02:26pm
@Zak Have you read the UNSC resolution ?
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Sep 25, 2014 05:21pm
@ASHISH but all India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal belong to Mughals, they will have it.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:30pm
@Kaustubh too bad, then you need to educate yourself. Watch William Dalrymple on India/ Pakistan on youtube, after he visited Pakistan and gave a talk in India.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:36pm
' No country can invade and occupy another country because inevitably they will be defeated and thrown out, as history has shown'- General Giap, the famed Vietnamese commander.
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Sep 26, 2014 12:23pm
@avi so says a national of Gujarat to the nationals of Kashmir.
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Sep 26, 2014 12:27pm
@Kasif yes of course, why were 1.2 billions Indians not on it. The world would be a better place.
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Sep 27, 2014 11:27pm
@Zak UN Resolution??? Lol...Shimla Agreement yaad hai?
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