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RIYADH: A conservative Saudi Arabian cleric has said women who drive risk damaging their ovaries and bearing children with clinical problems, countering activists who are trying to end the kingdom's male-only driving rules.
A campaign calling for women to defy the ban in a protest drive on Oct. 26 has spread rapidly online over the past week and gained support from some prominent women activists. On Sunday, the campaign's website was blocked inside the kingdom.
In an interview published on Friday on the website sabq.org, Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Lohaidan said women aiming to overturn the ban on driving should put “reason ahead of their hearts, emotions and passions”.
Reuters earlier wrongly identified him as Sheikh Saleh bin Mohammed al-Lohaidan, a member of the Senior Council of Scholars, one of the top religious bodies in the birthplace of Islam.
By contrast, Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Lohaidan, the person quoted in the sabq.org report, is a judicial adviser to an association of Gulf psychologists.
His comments reflect the extent of opposition to women driving among some conservatives in Saudi Arabia.
“If a woman drives a car, not out of pure necessity, that could have negative physiological impacts as functional and physiological medical studies show that it automatically affects the ovaries and pushes the pelvis upwards,” he told Sabq.
“That is why we find those who regularly drive have children with clinical problems of varying degrees,” he said.
He did not cite specific medical studies to support his arguments.
The ban on women driving is not backed by a specific law, but only men are granted driving licences. Women can be fined for driving without a licence but have also been detained and put on trial in the past on charges of political protest.
Sheikh Abdulatif Al al-Sheikh, the head of the morality police, told Reuters a week ago that there was no text in the documents making up sharia, or Islamic law, that barred women from driving.
King Abdullah has pushed some cautious reforms aimed at expanding women's freedoms in Saudi Arabia, including opening more employment opportunities for them, but he has not addressed the issue of driving.
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Sep 29, 2013 10:24pm
I know it sounds bit 'non modern', but I think that it may be true. Allah has made women to bear children, and that should take precedence over anything else. The posture of sitting in a car with legs spread and pushing pedals will generate pressure in pelvis region. For thousands of years, women naturally keep their legs closed and refrain from any heavy activities. Why to assume that the cleric is speaking without any medical basis?
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Sep 29, 2013 10:24pm
not very scientific Mullah lolz. How women in other countries keeping them healthy while driving must be a secret then.
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Sep 29, 2013 10:26pm
Yah! Crazy Mufti! No Woman and Chinese Driver on the Road safe for everyone else on the road
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Sep 29, 2013 10:27pm
Why do South Asians (India/Pakistan/Nepal/Bangladesh/Srilanka) go to these barbarian countries to work? We have enough resources (food/water/technology/education) that we can create opportunities for everyone in the subcontinent. We can't seem to get enough of screwing each other first? When will we learn.
We are so much better if we can just focus on what's important.
One would imagine in another 50 years if the world becomes more independent from fossil fuels then what will these barbarians do?
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Sep 29, 2013 10:33pm
Oops, didn't anyone tell the cleric driving drastically reduces sperm count? Cars should be banned and Saudis should ride camels.
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Sep 29, 2013 10:48pm
God help Saudi Arabia and the women who live there.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:00pm
Is this true?
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Sep 29, 2013 11:12pm
If I had a gun with two bullets and was in the same room as Hitler, Bush and this cleric....I'd shoot this cleric twice.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:12pm
Height of Hypocracy!!! and they have supporters too.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:10pm
Saudi researchers should be asked to publish their research in Medical Journals to prove their claim.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:22pm
The cleric does not know if any injury of the reproductive organs can be sustained by driving, per se, men are more vulnerable! What a sham stricture.What a shame!
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Sep 29, 2013 11:31pm
Wonder why the same logic is not applied to men - isn't their private part gets impacted resulting in drop in spem count / quality etc. Just get rid of all the vehicles from Sudi Arabia. At least it will help in reducing pollution and the 'green house effect'. Wish this can be implemented all over the globe.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:33pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle): considering that u read dawn i thought u mite have some sort of sense but i guess i am wrong!considering that i am related to the field of medicine let me assure you that in any way the pelvis cannot shift by any external pressure and neither does the ovaries have any relation whatsoever to any external stimuli!sheer ignorance and illiteracy gives to certain notions created my misinterpreting religion and applying on modern principles!
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Sep 29, 2013 11:38pm
Genius Scientist Mullah.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:45pm
There is nothing in Quran or Hadith that women should not ride horses or camels. These are all man made rules to have control on women so that they can feel superior.
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Sep 29, 2013 11:47pm
real intellectual with scientific logic!! lolllllllllll
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Sep 30, 2013 12:21am
This Mullah should be nominated for Nobel price for Biology!!!
One simple question, What about riding in the car???
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Sep 30, 2013 12:37am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle): I am granting you a Phd in woman anatomy along with the Cleric you support. I guess next you will say that woman should not move so as not to generate pressure in pelvis region.
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Sep 30, 2013 12:40am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
The number of thumbs down to your comment suggest the astonishing number of literate people incapable of understanding sarcasm.
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Sep 30, 2013 12:57am
@King:
The real sham is that no one from the ruling family is going to ask that he either provide supporting evidence or retract his claim and offer an apology for misleading a nation and its people.
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Sep 30, 2013 12:53am
@Khalid:
God is helping them with oil.And million of people all over the world desperate to go over there to be there paid slave.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:01am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
You should consult with hundreds of millions of mothers that drive every day for hours to take care of the family chores.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:17am
What about riding camels?
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Sep 30, 2013 01:29am
Whats the point of giving this useless article in the paper
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Sep 30, 2013 01:30am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
I am sorry but I think you have no idea about what you are stating. In fact, you should meet the cleaning lady at my place who has given birth to more than 20 children (no joke) and she squats with knees wide open to mop the floor. Please tell me that you are assuming this. Driving is a necessity in most countries. Child birth and pregnancy issues are related to health and care.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:33am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
its kinda true that women in general in western world do have more problem with delivering babies then others even thought they look stronger then none western women ....i wonder why
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Sep 30, 2013 01:45am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
You are joking right. If not then God help us.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:47am
Ignorance is bliss.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:51am
what a justification our islamic scholars are chasing now-a-days lol, the days are not far when they will say, walking, jogging, running, will affact human ovary (because of development of force) so there would be a ban on these things lol, best of luck muslims
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Sep 30, 2013 02:06am
This mullah is all messed up in his brain. Me driver, my car, my ovaries ... why in hell is he worried about my ovaries? He means that women sitting next to driver seat is OK but her overies are at risk as soon as she changes seats? Nothing has changed for these dead brains.
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Sep 30, 2013 02:19am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Suppose a women sitting in her house get hurt by a falling object on her abdomen. No one around. Can she take car to nearby hospital to save her overies?
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Sep 30, 2013 02:15am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
I can not believe what I just read. Your ignorance is unbelievable. Are you for real?.
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Sep 30, 2013 02:56am
by that logic then, women should be barred from altogether sitting on any kind of surface....All saudi women should either keep standing or lie down from now on......wow!
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Sep 30, 2013 02:59am
Well, what amount of idiocy and narrow mindedness the saudi mullah have. u get amazed every time they issue a stupid decree. RIP saudi females.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:04am
The cleric is very funny ..He should try standup comedy..:))
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Sep 30, 2013 03:20am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
wow.. that means during Prophet Muhammad's time women were not riding camels coz this makes them spread their legs... Certainly the women were riding camels during that time and still were giving birth to babies.. ridiculous!!
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Sep 30, 2013 03:20am
If driving is detrimental to women's reproductive system then why not sitting?
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Sep 30, 2013 03:31am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Yes, clearly Allah made women for no purpose but to bear children, just as Allah made men for no purpose but to impregnate women in order to produce children. Are you aware of how ridiculous that line of reasoning sounds?
Also, your (and the esteemed Sheikh's) armchair biology is hilarious. Driving is no more injurious to women than sitting in a chair. Women across the world have been driving for many, many years now, in countries both Muslim and non Muslim, and there has been no emerging trend of imploded pelvises or damaged ovaries.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:38am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
I don't believe "... legs spread and pushing pedals ..." will lead to damage ovary. But if you insist, SUVs can resolve the posture issue.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:37am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Because he's a Cleric! Why do we still take men of religion seriously ?
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Sep 30, 2013 04:04am
LOL.... means all the women driving every where in world have ovary problems... guess they are still living in their air conditioned caves..
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Sep 30, 2013 04:10am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
The cleric would be laughed out of any scientific debate. His conclusions have made him a joke around the world.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:57am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Because there is no credible medical research substantiating his claim. Why don't you enlighten us all and share a source.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:05am
These clerics are actually subcritical creatures......so don't expect sense from them.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:37am
@Usman:
Yes don't let your lady to drive, mate.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:43am
@King:
Don't be naive, how can s/he know ? S/he is not a complete man him/herself.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:44am
And what about the male parts of the men. Men drive about in the same position, and have their organs, at about the same place.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:43am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Shame of you women suppressors. Tie them to the bed as soon as they are born. And just use them for making babies. Why let them do any thing else ? That's why rest of the world hates Islam.
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Sep 30, 2013 06:01am
@Imtiaz:
saudi researchers??????? what is that?
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Sep 30, 2013 06:11am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Let us not support muslim clerics arguments without proper reasoning, this is one of the biggest problem in muslims, this has come about may be to due lack of education among majority of muslims, so they themselves can't understand holy quran and they are dependent and blindly follow clerics for all religious matters. Clerics sometime use the religious sentiments of people to suite their own agendas. This is a glaring example, clerics is trying to make his religious point using unsupported medical argument.
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Sep 30, 2013 06:09am
I fail to understand this theory, as in the days of our beloved Prophet His Wife Hazrat Khadijah was a business women. She used to travel on Camel for days which I think is much uncomfortable and a continues pressure, on the pelvis would have bared her from having children. I think our clerics should do thorough research before announcing such things as it only malign's Islam.
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Sep 30, 2013 06:12am
Arabs were ignorant and illitarate from centuries and will not progras for thousands of years to come.
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Sep 30, 2013 06:26am
You have got to be kidding. This is not even worth a discussion. What will these obsolete Clerics come up with next?
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Sep 30, 2013 07:14am
The cleric needs to to get an update, from medical doctors before making such wild statements. It is better to remain quite and be thought a fool, then to speak out, and remove all doubt.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:18am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Women drive in every country of the world, so are u implying that only the women in Saudi Arabia are subject to this phenomenon if they drive? Wake up and live beyond 6th century. In todays world, women not only drive but they are also combat fighter pilots including PAF. In the time of prophet (P.B.U.H.) women were given all the rights and they were part of almost every aspect of his and his companions life. He first wife was a very successful entrepreneur and a business woman and to monitor her business that was spread across a vast region, I am sure that she did extensive travelling. In those days the only mode of travel was either camel, horse or by foot. Camel or horse travel was preferred for long distance travel and we all know how one sits on a camel or a horse. Don't you think women who traveled using those means of transport were at a bigger risk of ovary and other injuries than driving a car? Also, in Saudi Arabia most of the cars are automatic in which there is no effort required to drive. So please use your brain before supporting these kind of unrealistic and stupid claims.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:33am
Laughable and Hilarious
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Sep 30, 2013 07:38am
Andher nagri Chaupat raj ! Bohoot knowledge hai is mulle ko Gynecology ke bare mein. Bakwas of 21st century !!!
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Sep 30, 2013 07:46am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
I agree with you bro, not only women should not drive, they should not climb stairs,lift babies,carry groceries ,do any cleaning or cooking ,all these may damage the reproductive system in one or the other.
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Sep 30, 2013 07:49am
This verdict by the Suadi cleric does not surprise me at all. It shows the archaic and outdated thinking that believing in the crooked religion leads to.
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Sep 30, 2013 08:07am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Pushing pedals in a car is far less strenuous than walking, especially while carrying a baby. No woman should ever be allowed to walk! Furthermore, latest research indicates that the acts of cooking, cleaning and doing laundry can also damage the ovaries... Now this sounds a bit nonsensical.
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Sep 30, 2013 08:12am
man this man's imagination should be appreciated .. totally new idea laya hay !! .. :P ..
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Sep 30, 2013 08:25am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle): so does it mean sitting next to her husband in the same position will not damage a woman? And hello Mister, for your information we know that pedals are made to work so smooth that even a kid can put pressure on them.Saudi clerics should come up with a better excuse and not jokes.They should come up with proof!
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Sep 30, 2013 08:33am
Good to know that Saudi Clerics do research on female anatomy also.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:07am
@Usman:
Well, well, don't get confused. I am a mother of two, on way to have a third baby. Have been driving since I was 15 years (even during pregnancies) and am 36 now. So you can see, it holds no truth. Apart from this, beating by husband and confinement in home can be much more dangerous for reproduction system of a women. Most of women are deficient in Vitamin D just because of remaining indoor and observing purdah when outside. It gives them vitamin deficiency plus depression and high BP problems.
With regards
A Muslimah living in Pakistan
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Sep 30, 2013 09:11am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Women do more heavy jobs then this and produce dozens of children too in rural areas. Look at laborer women bearing many children and doing hard physical work. Men have a tendency to produce arguments according to what suits them. Let women decide for themselves.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:19am
Why are mullahs so concerned about a women's private parts? they are simply obsessed. Either a girl doing sports will break her hymen (Qardavi - check youtube) and that will make her useless, or her ovaries will be harmed and she will be useless, someone will molest her and she will become useless, someone will see her beauty and she will become useless.
They are oversexualized perverts.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:27am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Try China, women there routinely ride bikes, and that is some pedal pushing. BTW China is the worlds most populous country.
Also walking puts the most pressure in the pelvic region, so perhaps all women should be placed in wheelchairs. And where does it say in the Quran that a woman is specifically created to bear children? The first man did not come from a woman, nor the first woman. What about women who cannot have children? What should we do with them?
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Sep 30, 2013 09:27am
Someone should inquiry him what happened when these women used to ride on camels, back in the day. And if that
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Sep 30, 2013 09:31am
These guys are really innovative.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:38am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Brother these ladies used to commute on camels if science is a mystery please try History.
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Sep 30, 2013 09:52am
There is absolutely no medical basis for this man's "conclusions" with regard to female drivers. Think of the millions of female drivers in the world! Females are equally or better able to drive than males, according to legitimate research. In fact, females tend to be more careful drivers. As for the argument that women are born to give birth to babies: well, men are born to create babies, so how about banning all those poor, endangered men from harming themselves by driving?
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Sep 30, 2013 10:02am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Very good
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Sep 30, 2013 10:02am
I am sure a very credible scientific research went into his claim.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:10am
@Imtiaz:
Oh for God there are only Saudi researcher what do you expect...Saudi are we like late Arabs
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Sep 30, 2013 10:06am
Saudi Arabia - A little better Afghanistan I suppose. Shame on them.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:23am
Oh this is so true, I believe this new research is in continuation of a previous study where it was clinically proven that driving cars miraculously restores virginity of Saudi men.
I will support this assertion with a link as well http://www.roznamajawani.com/driving-in-saudi-arabia-miraculously-restores-saudi-mans-virginity/
Since its on "internet" it has to be true.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:28am
@Ali Asghar ... Remember the years of camel ride of Arabia 1400 hundred years ago ... Did women damaged their Pelvis on camels since it is more comfortable ride then a car according to your Sharia or women might be sitting sideways on camels like on bikes. Stupid Clerics with useless issues and comments. Each Saudi just wants 4 woman for their sexual satisfaction. They are afraid that one of their women might drove off....
The most Non educated nation with no vision is Saudi Arabia.... Once their oil is over, this nation will end in misery.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:27am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
you are an idiot!
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Sep 30, 2013 10:32am
Camel ride was more comfortable then.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:33am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Ali why this so called mullah does not publish it any medical journal? secondly how it does not affect other millions of women in other countries? Are you saying the children are the BEST in the world? There are other Muslim countries Pakistan and so forth, their children are affected too or only Saudi women are affected?
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Sep 30, 2013 10:40am
Such so called clerics shoot through their mouths with no grey matter backup,thereby belittling our modern emancipating religion! Shame on this man!
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Sep 30, 2013 10:41am
What about the camel ride 1400 years ago? Women used to travel for years on camels. Plz answer this Mr Cleric.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:43am
OMG I'm banning all the women in my household from driving immediately. According to researchers, walking too much can also damage the ovaries and I look forward to the sheikh's guidance urgently in this regard as well.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:45am
It may be a man's world, but one can always count on a cleric to keep the best interests of women in mind.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:51am
I think the matter should be referred to Dr. Zakir Naik. Because he is a good speaker but his channel is Saudi sponsored. Yes, Dr Zakir what do you have to say.. :)
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Sep 30, 2013 11:12am
If dawn has the least bit of professional integrity left, then it'll atleast verify the news before making it a headline. The man who said this was a psychologist who goes by the same name as Shaykh al-Lohaidan. Read the same piece of news from saudi news agencies and it mentions saudi psychologist and not cleric.
So the headlines were either modified to either sensationalize the news item, or dawn's editors have a long standing enmity with clerics and religious scholars (which by the look of it, they do)
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Sep 30, 2013 11:17am
WTH !! These Saudis are main reason of FASAD...
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Sep 30, 2013 11:20am
oh God, not again. lol! this is what happens when you allow religion into law-making.the biases are just never-ending.
professional male drivers suffer from low sperm count (American Journal of Industrial Medicine.Volume 30, Issue 6, pages 750
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Sep 30, 2013 11:32am
may allah give strength to muslims and help them to live their lives according to fatwa of saudi clerics who are more nearer to allah subhan wa ta allah than anyone else
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Sep 30, 2013 11:39am
And the Noble prize of this year goes to a Saudi cleric...
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Sep 30, 2013 11:45am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
are you for real ??
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Sep 30, 2013 12:15pm
Men should not use bicycle as well
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Sep 30, 2013 12:57pm
Well, I am speechless, what to say to dumb and deaf ones.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:27pm
This poisonous snake is trying to export its Ideology to Pakistan too. Let their Oil run out and Allah will show them what he thinks of their wisdom.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:37pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
God Bless you with some scientific inquisitiveness and rational so that you may see the world without green glasses.
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Sep 30, 2013 01:50pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
... and the honorable mr islamic scholar
"it automatically affects the ovaries and pushes the pelvis upwards".. assuming that you both are heterosexual, isnt that you favorite thing to do every time you get a hand on a woman??? Look at the bright side: at-least the car wont make them pregnant!!
.. and just for the record, women "open their legs" all the time because without doing that they cant walk, or sit and squat or move really.... and we know how important all these actions are for cooking your breakfast over a fire!
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Sep 30, 2013 02:09pm
I laughed when I read this, the only thing it shows me is how clueless the guys are. If these are the people who are the so called knowledgeable ones, then who are the fools?
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Sep 30, 2013 02:22pm
That is the knowledge of mullahs because they read only nonsense books and follow them.. They don't have even basic knowledge of human anatomy.
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Sep 30, 2013 02:50pm
I wonder what is the dawn policy of picking/buying news these days..... since living in kingdom and a regular reader of news media,i never read such news in local media.... maybe the policy is to pick any anti islam or anti pakistan news .
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Sep 30, 2013 03:15pm
How often does this cleric check women ovaries and does he know how to check the ovaries? It does not damage anything in the western world. You do not find such clerics in the western world only in Muslim countries where they thrive.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:28pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle): What you say sounds very stupid and ignorant. Nothing to do with "modern vs non-modern".
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Sep 30, 2013 03:41pm
Wonder if the cleric has told the men not to use laptops on their laps,as it lowers the sperm count?
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Sep 30, 2013 03:45pm
Hilarious ?
Salafist logic!
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Sep 30, 2013 03:51pm
All this cleric needs is one fly past by a female fighter pilot over his head. Perhaps that would clear his thinking about women and driving.
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Sep 30, 2013 03:48pm
Islamic contributions in science. :D.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:04pm
All right, now I am scared from sitting. Because my pelvic might move up with all the pressure.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:16pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
probable driving effect the weak ovaries
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Sep 30, 2013 04:21pm
This is not even worth commenting.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:22pm
These clerics are just afraid that if a woman is allowed to drive a car then she can easily run away from abusive husbands whom treat them like cattle.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:24pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
Bhai tell me is there a lack of people on this planet? Western populations are healthy whereas the muslim world is suffering from overpopulation and all the strain that it has on their country's welfare system.
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Sep 30, 2013 04:34pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
The women in past used to ride horses, which is more streneous than sitting on a chair and pushing pedals.
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Sep 30, 2013 05:29pm
I read this article two times; once to make sure if it was a joke. Finally i decided not to laugh, there was nothing in it to laugh at. A bad joke. It reminds me of another joke in Pakistan when a cleric announced that there was no such place in the world where days and nights can be months longer then ours. He was replying to a question that how to fix timings of namaz and fast in those countries.
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Sep 30, 2013 06:58pm
During the pre and post Islamic era, women use to ride camels and it was supposed to be the very rough ride
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Sep 30, 2013 07:02pm
Clerics like this also say that sick women can not be treated by male doctors and at the same time they say that women should not get higher education. Are they listening what they are saying?
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Sep 30, 2013 09:25pm
What if a woman is barren?
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Sep 30, 2013 09:59pm
In stead of mentioning "what not to do" , these Mullahs should tell "what women should do" . Because it seems "to-do" list is much smaller than "don't do" list for women in Islamic countries.
They can't ride a cycle . They can't drive a car . So which activities can they do on this earth ? Why don't mullahs declare Women as child bearing machines only openly ? While whole word is being gripped by radicalization and extremism among muslim youths , these Mullahs are adding to our woos .Shame !!!!
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Sep 30, 2013 10:15pm
These clerics should be shown the door. The problem is not so much with these clerics, as they are opportunists, but with the rest of the muslim population, who obsessed with their religion, are always running to these obscurants for advice. They have an answer for everything, how to take a bath, how to wash your behind after a bowel movement, how to eat, how to burp, how to pass wind and what to say afterward, etc, etc.
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Sep 30, 2013 10:21pm
Sab gol maal hai bhai Sab Gol maal hai.......one question: men have contemporary organs to women's ovaries and they are more liable to damage by his logic.....cause ovaries are internal and they are external
But guess the mullah ji was kidding
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Oct 01, 2013 12:06am
As much as I respect the country (because of the holy sacred places), I find the rulers very amusing, especially when they come up with such ideologies. If there is a scientific research behind it, or if its mentioned in the holy book, then I would like for the cleric to please post it for all of us to read.
Women should be an active part of the society, and doing everything their male counterparts do , like working, driving etc etc. Hazrat Khadija (R.A) was also a trader by profession if I remember correctly.
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Oct 01, 2013 02:39am
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle): I think most of the clerics in Saudi have Jockyitch because of riding a camel. I think for women it's lot easier to drive a car than a camel too. As you have mentioned legs are spread far more riding a camel than a car!!
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Oct 01, 2013 02:53am
They call this "Islamic Science".
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Oct 01, 2013 04:37am
LOL.....Dear Clerics of SA,
With the invention of power brakes, power steering decades ago, driving is not an effort anymore for anyone......so what other genious advice do you have next????
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Oct 01, 2013 09:51am
sick journalism
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Oct 01, 2013 10:53am
He may be onto something. When men sit in cars for prolonged periods of time, their groin region effectively receives extra heat. This works against the body's design as that part is supposed to stay cooler than the rest of the body. So I think maybe someone is censoring the Shaikh's full speech. He probably said men and women should both avoid driving. Men because it can affect their ability to reproduce and women because will cause unemployment amongst their drivers. They are not really worried about women being unfaithful - otherwise why provide her with a non-mahram man, a car, and privacy. It is all blown out of proportion.
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Oct 01, 2013 11:20am
@Martin: What welfare systems??? So how do you compare China with Muslim country.
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Oct 01, 2013 11:27am
This should be seen in the light of Quran and sunnah.
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Oct 01, 2013 12:13pm
Why have you published such utterly ridiculous news?
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Oct 01, 2013 02:57pm
I have a suspicion that these clerics might be the missing link between ape like animals and humans in human evolution.
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Oct 01, 2013 04:23pm
As someone who has seen more than a million mammalian ovaries in 40 years in abattoirs, I feel that this Saudi bloke Saleh is both delusional and dishonest.
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Oct 01, 2013 04:19pm
Sheikh Saleh bin Saad al-Lohaidan statement is the stupidest thing ever heard but in line with the dumb logic and mindset of the hard line clerics of today. These are baseless observations
and to prove it there are a few billion women driving all over the world and nothing is damaged in them . Maybe it is the roads or the driving conditions the eminent Sheikh is referring to. Its time these psued intilectuals were sent home.
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Oct 01, 2013 05:27pm
Here is a thought, men who drive may get ED. What proof that cleric has provided so far. Answer is NONE. Typical ultra conservative Saudi men trying to protect their male turf.
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Oct 01, 2013 06:19pm
I could not beleive when I read the article and claim made in the article. Shame on the cleric for cooking this up and shame on people publishing it. Shame on us for reading the article in it's entirety.....
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Oct 01, 2013 07:53pm
Riding a bike definitely poses danger to the testicles.
i guess Saudi men should stop riding bikes.
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Oct 01, 2013 09:02pm
The Ovaries are internal organs. Their contemporary in males are the testes which are somewhat external organs. So driving will damage what?
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Oct 01, 2013 11:26pm
@Ali Asghar (Emerging Circle):
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha he he he he he he....ho ho ho
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Oct 02, 2013 05:41am
useless clerics..cant believe people actually listen to them...all these mullahs, cleric are utterly useless and a menace to society.. totally useless people.
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Oct 02, 2013 08:22am
Thank god for such news items. Otherwise the gory of bloodshed in Peshawar had taken life out of me. Maybe on second thoughts both these news items have a real connection. Think deep maybe you will find it.
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Oct 02, 2013 09:19am
Muslim clerics and men of Dawah like Zakir Naik, Haroon Yahya are the real scientists. They discovered very important information that would be helpful to the mankind. This will promote to the era of Bullock cart instead using cars, planes that are more dangerous to the man kind.
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Oct 02, 2013 02:13pm
@Asad :
Like your comment :)
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Oct 02, 2013 08:42pm
Lo kar lo baat! So now mullahs are doctors too!
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