C. Christine Fair, a Washington-based academic, in a recent opinion piece has held Pakistan categorically responsible for the breakdown of US-Pakistan relations. She further accuses Pakistan of working against the US interests and suggests punitive measures to fix Pakistan.

While I continue to respect Dr. Fair’s extensive work on Pakistan, I, however, believe her recent op-ed lacks impartiality and sound judgment. Her choice of expressions, willful omissions, and apathy toward the sufferings of millions of Pakistanis and Afghans makes her writing an exercise in hegemonic discourse.

Writing in the influential journal, Foreign Policy, Dr. Fair echoes the musings of undisclosed Washington insiders who confided that “we are ‘this close' to bombing them [Pakistan].” I wonder what she and others in Washington, DC, think of the drone attacks in Fata (still very much a part of Pakistan) that have killed, among others, hundreds of civilians, including dozens of children. Isn’t that bombing enough?

Given the fact that Professor Fair’s opinions are taken seriously by many, it therefore becomes increasingly necessary to review her latest piece in some detail and highlight the deficiencies in reasoning, which would otherwise remain latent in her rhetoric. I have organised my response under four key themes that I saw dominant in Professor Fair’s article.

The US versus THEM vocabulary

Even in the opening paragraph in her article, Professor Fair’s choice of expressions exposes her lack of objectivity. She mentions Raymond Davis, a CIA operative who was arrested and later released for murdering two young men in Lahore. She calls Mr. Davis a ‘CIA contractor’ and refers to the two dead Pakistanis as ‘ISI ruffians.’ While Mr. Davis was repeatedly described as a diplomat by the US administration, including Secretary Hillary Clinton, it was an open secret that he was a hired gun, an apocalyptic mercenary, who worked for the private militias retained by the CIA. Even the New York Times sheepishly admitted weeks later (after the British newspapers went public with Mr. Davis’ identity) that the Times’ editors knew all along that Mr. Davis was no diplomat.

By presenting Mr. Davis as a contractor, someone with a job and responsibility, and calling the two dead Pakistanis thugs and hooligans, Professor Fair has chosen to take sides following the ‘us versus them’ Bush doctrine. To date no evidence of association between the two dead young men and ISI has come to surface. Calling them thugs is insulting to them and their families. What is, however, known for certain is that Mr. Davis is indeed a thug and hooligan, or a ruffian, as Professor Fair refers to the dead Pakistanis. Only eight months after murdering two men in Lahore, Davis was arrested in Highland Ranch in Colorado where he assaulted another man in a dispute over a parking spot. “I’ve never seen a man so full of rage,” the victim’s terrified wife later told the police.

Conjuring an evil image of Pakistan and its people

Professor Fair holds no bar in painting a poor image of Pakistan by invoking catastrophic future scenarios involving Pakistan’s nuclear weapons program. “Meanwhile, Pakistan's vast jihadi landscape further conjures the image of Islamist barbarians banging at the nuclear gate,” writes Professor Fair. And if that is not enough, she further accuses Pakistan of being a nuclear proliferator by “spreading nuclear technology to such states as Iran and North Korea.”

The US criticism of Pakistan’s nuclear weapon program speaks volumes of American double standards. Consider first that the US has done its fair share of nuclear proliferation by supplying nuclear weapons technology to several countries, including Israel. While Abdul Qadeer Khan is routinely referred to as Pakistan’s “chief nuclear black marketer”, individuals such as Robert J. Stevens, CEO and Chairman of Lockheed Martin (a weapons exporting firm), are routinely eulogised for creating jobs and prosperity for Americans.

Furthermore, the US continues to be the world’s largest exporter of arms and ammunitions. In 2011 alone, the US Directorate of Defense Trade Controls issued licenses to private companies for exporting $44.3 billion worth of weapons and other defense equipment. If I were to borrow Professor Fair’s embellished style, I would say that the US is indeed the biggest merchant of death in the world.

Another example of maligning Pakistan is to refer to Abbottabad, where Osama Bin Laden was killed in May 2011, as the “cantonment town of Abbottabad, near Pakistan’s acclaimed military academy.” This is done to imply (because no hard evidence of collusion between Pakistanis and bin Laden was discovered) that somehow the Pakistani establishment was sheltering Mr. bin Laden in Abbottabad near an ‘elite’ military academy.

Abbottabad is no more a garrison town than Rawalpindi, Lahore, or Karachi. In fact, there are over 39 Cantonments in Pakistan situated in almost all large urban centres. India boasts another 60-plus cantonments including New Delhi and Lucknow. The Cantonments in South Asia are part of the British legacy. However, the population explosion in South Asia has all but consumed the cantonments and have amalgamated them into the urban fabric.

In fact, one would encounter fewer uniformed soldiers in Abbottabad than one would find riding the subway trains between Foggy Bottom and Pentagon City stations in Washington, DC.

The reference to military academy is another red herring. The Pakistan Military Academy in Abbottabad (Kakul) trains high school graduates and offer two-year post Grade-12 diploma to cadets. Hardly an elite military school!

American acts are justified or accidental mistakes

Throughout her article, Professor Fair adopts the notions that the US can do no wrong and if something has gone wrong than it must be an honest mistake. For instance, she refers to the air-strike on a marked and known check-post on the Pak-Afghan border as an “accidental raid on Pakistani troops at the Salala checkpost in November” 2011 that killed 24 soldiers. She conveniently omits the fact that the Afghan forces were moving to close to the border in darkness without advising Pakistanis (as per agreed upon protocols), which resulted in the cross-fire and ultimately the “accidental raid” for which the US refuses to apologise.

It is sad to see Professor Fair downplaying the significant health risks resulting from CIA’s ill devised plan to use polio vaccination as a cover to obtain DNA from Osama Bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad. The illiterate masses in Pakistan were already weary of vaccination. Now that CIA’s name has been associated with polio vaccination, there has been even lesser coverage because many in rural and remote areas in Pakistan believe vaccination is a sinister CIA plot. However, Professor Fair is not convinced if the CIA’s plan to use vaccination is the reason why Pakistan reported the highest number of polio cases in 2011. “Thus, it is not clear what the marginal impact of this recent chicanery will be on Pakistan's polio crisis,” she wrote.

While Professor Fair remains doubtful of the devastating harm caused by the CIA, InterAction, a group which represents nearly 200 US-based non-government organisations, wrote to CIA director General David Petraeus earlier in February expressing “deep concerns” about the CIA’s fake polio campaign. They wrote: "Among other factors, international public health officials point to the distrust of vaccines and immunization campaigns as contributing to the lack of progress in eradicating the disease in Pakistan” and added that “this distrust is only increasing in light of reports about the CIA campaign.”

Willful omissions and misrepresentations

Professor Fair is too well-informed about Pakistan to have missed certain key details in her story that have helped her with the thesis that all blames lie with Pakistan. In her opening paragraph she claims, contrary to the eye-witness accounts, that two ‘ISI thugs’ confronted Raymond Davis. She mentions that he killed both young men in broad daylight, but fails to report that Mr. Davis shot both men in the back through the windshield while being seated in a moving vehicle. Mr. Davis chased on foot the second young man and shot him in the back as well. She again fails to mention that in their haste to reach Raymond Davis, a car dispatched by the US Consulate in Lahore ran over another civilian. No one has ever been brought to justice for the hit-and-run by the Consulate’s car that killed the breadwinner of a poor family in Lahore.

She again misrepresents the details about Dr. Shakil Afridi, who ran CIA’s fake vaccination campaign in Abbottabad. “While Pakistan's arrest of the physician Dr. Shakil Afridi, who helped identity and eliminate bin Laden for the time-tested crime of espionage, what is abhorrent is that he is the only one who has been arrested.”  She, however, omits the necessary detail that while the Americans suspected that Dr. Afridi was arrested and later sentenced for 33 years for helping the CIA, Dr. Afridi was in fact found guilty of conspiring with a militant Taliban group, which is led by the Taliban commander Mangal Bagh.

In her article Professor Fair also took several shots at Pakistan’s judiciary, accusing the judges of acting on “whim rather than jurisprudence.” She did not sound pleased with the fact that the Supreme Court ousted former Prime Minister Gilani and issued warrants for Gilani’s son and “Makhdoom Shahabuddin, who was President Asif Ali Zardari's first choice to replace the ousted Gilani.”

Again, Mr. Shahabuddin was not denied premier’s office because of the courts’ activism. Instead, he was blocked most likely by Mr. Gilani himself because while being the Minister of Health, Mr. Shahabuddin instituted an inquiry into why two firms from Multan were given illegal quota for importing thousands of kilograms of ephedrine, an ingredient for cold medicine that is also used in making banned drugs. Former Prime Minister’s son is accused of peddling influence in obtaining licenses for the two firms.

Ignoring the 800-pound guerrilla

In her detailed analysis of what ails Pakistan she ignores the 800-pound gorilla that has been hovering over South Asia since the late 70s. The fact that the US has been busy fighting first the proxy wars and later engaging in direct armed conflict gets no mention in her piece. Somehow over three decades of warfare instigated by the US so that the Americans can settle scores against the Soviet Union, is assumed to have no role in making lives miserable for millions of Pakistanis and Afghans. Suddenly Charlie Wilson’s war is deemed entirely an exogenous, unrelated factor that should be ignored when one tries to understand the causes behind the social and economic collapse of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistanis did not invite the Russians to invade Afghanistan. Nor did Pakistanis invite the Americans to fight the Soviet Army. In fact, it has been the over way around. Writing also in Foreign Policy in Spring 1980, Christopher van Hollen, a former deputy assistant secretary of state, observed the following:

“On December 28, 1979, the day after the Soviet Union installed its puppet regime in Afghanistan, President Jimmy Carter telephoned Pakistani President Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, whose country shares a 1,400-mile border with the new Soviet satellite. Carter told Zia that he was reviewing ways the United States could help counter the Soviet threat to Pakistan and assured him of the American government's support.”

Corrupting Pakistan’s ruling elite with money and weapons and pushing them into fighting America’s wars has brought us to where we are. The US has been an equal partner in crime. In effect, the US is the chief architect of the humanitarian disaster unfolding in Afghanistan and Pakistan. While Professor Fair and others in the Capital Beltway are welcome to hold Pakistan responsible for the failed American designs in Afghanistan, however, the reality remains that American military and foreign policy is meeting one disaster after another in Lebanon, Libya, Bahrain, and Iraq.

Using Pakistan as a scapegoat may be the right political move for the American President whose second term in the White House seems increasingly unlikely with every passing day, the American policymakers and academics perhaps may also consider introspection to see where the real fault lines lie.

Professor Fair indeed made several sound observations in the same article. She wants Pakistan to curb militancy (but fails to appreciate how the US presence in the region fuels it), resolve disputes with India and invest in its people. I agree with her wholeheartedly. Irrespective of what America does in the region, the Pakistani State has to reign in the militants. Even back in 1980, Mr. van Hollen warned Pakistanis that the “[g]uns provided to the Pushtun tribes today to fight the Soviet-dominated regime in Kabul could later be turned toward Islamabad.” I wish someone had heeded Mar. van Hollen’s warnings.

Professor Fair prescribes ‘benign neglect’ as a policy instrument for the US to deal with Pakistan. I would call it good riddance. The sooner South Asia is free of the American and Nato’s misguided and futile military activism, the better it is for the region. Cutting military ties with the US is a must for a democratic and caring state in Pakistan.

Many are mistaken in believing that without the American financial support, Pakistan will not survive. I have argued in an earlier piece that Pakistan, and every other nation, can survive without US aid. I am basing these arguments not on ignorance prejudice, but on the cogent advice of renowned Pakistani economists. What S. Akbar Zaidi and other economists have said in public and the Deputy Chairman of Planning Commission, Dr. Nadeem Ul Haque, has been saying in private is that Pakistan has to sever aid ties with the US and IMF. Their bailouts have only subsidised Pakistan’s ruling elite.

As for the rest of Pakistanis the choice is obvious. If Pakistanis want to earn respect, they have to build their nation with their own taxes. Not much respect comes bundled with IMF bailouts.


Murtaza Haider, Ph.D. is the Associate Dean of research and graduate programs at the Ted Rogers School of Management at Ryerson University in Toronto. He can be reached by email at murtaza.haider@ryerson.ca


The views expressed by this blogger and in the following reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

Murtaza Haider is a Toronto-based academic and the director of Regionomics.com.

The views expressed by this blogger and in the following reader comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the Dawn Media Group.

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Comments (138)

Vish
June 28, 2012 11:50 am
Just as Pakistan did not invite US and USSR into Afghanistan, nobody invited Pakistan to be America's poodle in South Asia. If the author reads a bit of history, this was something that started from M.A.Jinnah who wanted to exploit America's fears of communism to earn dollars for Pakistan. This was simply continued by Ayub Khan and a whole lot of dictators that followed. The author also forgets that it was American aid and support that sustained Pakistan's economy and defence forces. Pakistan was a member of SEATO, CENTO and a major non-NATO ally out of choice. So if now America demands payback for all their investments in Pakistan over the years, it seems only justified. After all Pakistan can always refuse aid from America. Nobody stops Pakistan.
Indian-American
June 27, 2012 11:52 pm
This is yet another uninformed piece by Mr. Haider. He is capable of better ones. Who is he trying to please? It lacks credibility, especially when he writes that "one would encounter fewer uniformed soldiers in Abbottabad than one would find riding the subway trains between Foggy Bottom and Pentagon City stations in Washington, DC". It may impress the average Pakistani but that's a laugh for someone like me who knows the DC subway system like the back of his hand. Moreover, the article lacks structure with all sorts of disjointed claims and half-baked allegations that are all over the place, Mr. Haider does not do justice to his grandiose title of "Associate Dean of research and graduate programs". I wonder what quality research he is involved in, after reading this article.
Silajit
June 28, 2012 12:00 am
Hold your horses! I often disagree with Ms. Fair but she points out some glaring inconsistencies regarding OBL. eg. Dr. Afridi has been arrested (on some pathetic charge - not for colluding with the CIA) but NO EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE to track down how OBL was able to live in Abbotabad for that long, how he was able to get medical care for the pregnancies of his wives or for that matter how he happened to build and live in that house in that city. She makes the point and you have yet to disprove it - that Pakistan has shown anger at the US raid and everything that helped it. But Pakistan has not raised a finger to figure out why OBL was able to live where he did for so long. Is that just another coincidence or an indication of where Pakistani loyalties lie?
Imran
June 27, 2012 4:59 pm
I bet you did..!!!
Gilles
June 28, 2012 12:09 am
Reading the comments of this article, I noted that almost no one from Pakistan acknowleges the fact that it is the wrong decisions of their own Govt and Military, and the absence of a true leader with a vision for the country that has brought them in this fix. 1st step to any real change comes from the right realization. It is not the first time it has happened when it comes to Pak relationship with US. Seems like deja vu.
Taha Imran
June 27, 2012 2:07 pm
Well Written article
wasim
June 27, 2012 6:53 pm
A very objective and professional assessment
I.Butt
June 27, 2012 6:55 pm
Now is the time for pakistani political parties to work hard honestly just to fix this broken image of the Pakistan rather than to sue their own political carriers- be very careful of activities of NGOs and foreign ambassies because they are more spys than investors or officials. May long live Pakistan... Amen
faiza ghulam rasool
June 28, 2012 1:40 pm
brilliant piece.
T Ahmed
June 27, 2012 11:34 pm
US-Pakistan relations are not an issue in the US elections. It is a measure of the dreamworld that so many Pakistanis live in who think otherwise, as in this article.
Historian
June 27, 2012 10:19 pm
Why? If an American citizen helped a Pakistani hit team took out a major enemy of both Pakistan and the United States near the US military academy at West Point, you know what would happen? I can assure you that we would not put the American citizen in jail. Most Americans find Pakistan's actions re: Osama bin Ladin, and Pakistani government explanations, to be a bit incredible. By the way, I liked the article. Don't agree with all of it, but thank the writer for taking Christine Fair to task.
Well-Wisher
June 27, 2012 5:36 pm
America is not saint.... however Pakistan should understand and accept that everything can not be blame on others, after having close friendship over several decades with America, now you are blaming her for everything bad happen in Pakistan.
Ishaq Khan
June 28, 2012 12:17 pm
Dear Ijaz..... if the author is sitting in Canada and writing such article for paksitan then what is wrong in this, what you have done for your country dear? he atleast doing something good and realising you to wake-up wake-up or ..............
(Dr.) B.N. Anand
June 29, 2012 8:20 am
Though a spirited rebuttal of the most of the points made by Dr. Fair, it still seems that Dr. Murtaza Haider is quite defensive on some issues. The strategic geographical position of Pakistan may have some advantages, but such plus points have not been exploited for the economic growth of the country. Though I hate to say, Pakistan has to learn to be pragmatic rather than living in denial most of the times. However a nice article to go through. BNA
Rubab Khan
June 29, 2012 6:45 am
Finally i found someone who wrote truth in such a straight way ....we have to stop this feudalism in pakistan they all are slave of super power .... i wish i cud analyze this article the way Mr.Haider worte (Double Likes)
Samir
June 27, 2012 6:17 pm
Isn't the same logic used when people talk about the Indian media. Somehow, the foreign media is always conspiring against Pakistan.
Masood Haider, Ph.D
June 27, 2012 6:41 pm
Pakistan is an innocent, upright and hapless victim of US perfidy and treachery. This view held by majority of Pakistanis in particular the electronic media stalwarts (those going against it like Murtaza Rizvi are put to the sword) is now being embraced by off shore highly educated individuals. God save us from the dangers of self-delusion.
raika45
June 28, 2012 12:15 pm
When you have the trillions like China has,you are the world's "creditor".Remember China in the sixties was a "beggar"nation that could not even produce enough food to feed it's people.Now the world especially Europe is at it's doorstep asking for cash aid.
Syed
June 28, 2012 12:48 pm
This is just one instance Mutaza Haider has referred to. You can find such anti Pakistan articles every day. What we need to do is to learn to live without any foreign aid as written by Murtaza Haider.
Syed Fraz
June 28, 2012 3:37 pm
Appreciative answer to The Illusionist.
Amir Saeed
June 27, 2012 10:08 pm
The writer has ably offered a counter narrative to Professor Fair's article. I had found her way of referring to two Pakistanis killed by Raymond Davis particularly galling and offensive. Secondly, in painting Pakistan as a failed/failing state, it is often overlooked that the country has virtually been in the war zone for almost half a century. I wonder how many states would have fared in a predicament like that. But I must say that Pakistan itself could do a lot to take charge of its destiny as a responsible, self-respecting and truely soverign state.
Muhammad A. Ghafoor
June 28, 2012 10:56 am
Well done! You make us proud, Murtaza Sahib. I particularly liked the part, "good riddance"! Very succintly put.
Batalvi
June 29, 2012 9:02 am
Brilliantly wriitten piece.We need to look inwards to solve our problems.Reliance on props would not resolve our issues.
Agha Ata
June 29, 2012 1:01 pm
Pakistan has done nothing wrong, at all. The world has always been against this country for no reason, How sad!
AMK
June 29, 2012 1:50 pm
The Author has stated facts that rebuff Dr. Fair's recent article blaming Pakistan for all its wrong doings. Stick to the facts specific to Dr. Fair's article. Then question if Dr. Murtaza has done the due diligence in addressing the same. If your answer is Yes, then accept it and if No, I would like to better understand why? Do not go in tangents stick to the points. Yes, Pakistan can survive without American or for that matter without any other countries help, why? Because as Dr. Murtaza explains that all the aid goes into Elites and Politicians pockets and hardly anything is left over to appreciate the so called 'AID'! It is as good as not having it. I wish there were more of Dr. Murtaza's calibre representing our beloved land Pakistan - wake-up Pakistan, let us get educated first and buld a Civil Society as the corrupt Govt. of the past, the present, and future show no hope - as it is the Civil Society who can take charge and provide a decent quality of lif to its deserving Citizens of Pakistan. Well done Professor Murtaza Haider - I find your articles to be well researched and written - with FACTS!
vigilant
June 29, 2012 10:22 pm
He never said that.....
El Cid
July 2, 2012 7:52 am
"...If i pay you a bagful of money to turn your children into walking bombs,..." All the money in the world can't buy a single Muslim kid's life...only in Allah's and humanities just cause do they fight. Had they remote buttons to push they would rather not become "walking bombs" at any price. Enslaved they never will be, rather die.They hurt and bleed just as any innocent child anywhere in the world. Their mothers grieve real blood tears even if the world denies them this minimal humanity.
Pulak Mukherjee
June 29, 2012 4:49 am
The rebuttal of Dr. Fair's article by Murtaza Haider suffers from the following inconsistencies:
agha
June 29, 2012 5:35 am
Yes you are right one should look first ones own interest which we are not doing so collectively as a nation
herath
June 29, 2012 5:55 am
Haider, very academic answer to a biased rhetoric from a biased american
vigilant
June 29, 2012 10:37 pm
Nice analysis of fair's Article. whatever problems and difficulties are we have clean our mess and stop making more mistakes. Most of Pakistani elite and feudal class is harvesting their own personal interests and we are keeping them in power shows our arrogance as a nation. Afghan jihad was a mistake and having no exit strategy was a blunder. More than 3 dcades we suffered from it now it must be stopped.
Sadu
July 3, 2012 7:53 am
I think the author shredded the original article to pieces and put it in the waste paper basket where it belongs.
Spenser
July 2, 2012 9:00 am
A two hour long "accident" incident in which PAF did not repond and the defenders had no shoulder fired air-defence only ground fire small arms for use against Taliban only. Some war planning for youy...
Allen
July 3, 2012 7:29 am
Reasonable observation.
El Cid
July 3, 2012 7:08 am
Dr. Murtaza Haider is not adding fuel to the fire. With is erudite analysis and organization of facts he is effectively exposing the fire setters, and damping down the flames they have set. He is a fire-fighter fighting his heart out, trying to put out the flames that are being ignited to burn our home down. Please read his article again and verify.
Sadu
July 2, 2012 8:35 am
YOU ARE NEVER ALONE, MY FRIEND...there are very many of us.
Another American
July 2, 2012 8:46 am
As is yours.
El Cid
July 3, 2012 7:17 am
His specialty is research...multiple source input, correlation and data verification is a prerequisite in his profession and work product. I doubt he has much time for propoganda out-lets. President Obama's second term is a toss up, undefined guess as yet.
Saika
July 2, 2012 9:03 pm
Please review your logic. That is not what he is punished for. Further crimes are proved in a court of law, not through assissinations.
Saika
July 2, 2012 9:19 pm
Dawn has power to influence opinion. Turning this power in the defense of Pakistan for once, rather than the usual derogatory incrimination, is a breath of fresh air. Thanks Dawn.
Akram
July 2, 2012 9:26 pm
The foreign power is itself getting thrashed, as the postmortem will show.
El Cid
July 3, 2012 12:38 pm
I agree...zero inconsistencies as you say.
Jamal
July 3, 2012 8:02 am
Good shot. I'd double that. The article is irresistable.
An American
June 27, 2012 3:29 pm
Living in Canada for years, Mr. Haider is obviously home sick and compensate it by writing articles to defend Pakistan. However, the defense is more based on emotions than facts.
Adam
June 27, 2012 11:14 pm
Wonderful article. It places blame on both, Pakistan & US, for the mess that South Asia finds itself in. Christine Fair's article sounded more like a childish rant than anything else. Put the blame entirely on Pakistan as if US is an innocent bystander in all of this.
Balajipanchapekasan
June 27, 2012 11:04 pm
I appreciate the author as true Pakistani patriot. However, his criticism falls short of objectivity and the author is in denial. Yes Raymond Davis shot two men. Either they were ISI men chasing him after knowing he is CIA contractor or they were thugs trying to rob him. If they were really trying to rob him what's wrong in calling him a thug. Second, Mangal Bagh himself said he doesn't know shakil Afridi. So With out proper evidence arresting someone and pronouncing 33 year jail sentence so quickly to me is injustice. Why hasn't Pakistan army investigate how OBL got there. It looks to me that author expresses the same as any Pakistani, outright denial of events.
Pnayak
June 28, 2012 8:25 pm
If i pay you a bagful of money to turn your children into walking bombs, I surely am to blame, but you are more to blame since it is your house. If the pakistani elite can be corrupted, how is it not pakistan's fault? the author differentiates between pakistan and the corrupt pakistani elite, but makes no such distinction between america and her corrupt elite - how convenient! blaming everyone else but yourself for your ills.
A S K
June 29, 2012 12:00 pm
"Wow!!! You accuse Christine Fair" well this pretty much sums up the comment and the American hubris.
meekal ali
June 27, 2012 7:51 pm
Murtaza Haider once again with his brilliance. I take a bow towards you Sir and consider myself blessed to be one of your students. God Bless You
Imran
June 28, 2012 1:00 pm
Nice one Mr. Haider. By the way, if it was " an accidental raid on Pakistani troops at the Salala checkpost in November killed 24", as misleadingly pointed out by Dr. Fair in her article, why don't the Americans just apologise and get on with it (as it was "accidental")?
afzaal
June 27, 2012 11:16 am
Thank you sir one of most brilliant article. Make no mistake, Pakistan must accept its share of blame but she is not alone responsible for this debacle.
saeed
June 27, 2012 3:22 pm
The facts to correct Dr. Fair's rhetorical article are worth knowing. However, Pakistan has always been a remote controlled country because it never tried to stand on its own feet. Masses are kept aloof by corrupt ruling elites. Masses are uneducated and therefore the whole country suffers. Bottom line is that Pakistan as a Nation is poor and not learning the lesson how to get better. US only works for its own interest even if it requires demolishing a whole country. Yes - They do provide some band-aid recovery in the name of US aid but the damage is far bigger than the band-aid. Not to mention that the aid also is used by corrupt elites for their own benefits. Unless this Pakistani nation makes a determination to start from scratch and stand on its own feet - nothing will happen. Of course this won't be easy ride, it may be much more tougher than today's miseries. However if Pakistan has any far vision, a time will come when they won't be dependent on IMF and finally won't be sufferers of US dictatorship. Beggars don't have a say.
citizen
June 27, 2012 3:43 pm
It was about time someone came up with an article like this... Pakistan has become a punching bag of the world for everything going wrong in the region completely disregarding the role played by all the others in shaping the mess we are today in.
irfan
June 27, 2012 3:47 pm
Then what would you have written? He pointed out where the original failed to mention certain facts.
Shaukat Hamid Haq
June 27, 2012 2:52 pm
What is the point of publishing this article here where it serves no purpose except to get acclaim from readers who are inactive/ passive admirers. Have it published where it makes a mark, turns the world opinion in Pakistan's favor,or least exposes the lies and hypocrisy that makes you fume. You live abroad, so use all the means open to you.
Shaukat Hamid Haq
June 27, 2012 2:46 pm
What is the point of publishing this article here where it serves no purpose except to get acclaim from readers who are inactive/ passive admirers. Have it published where it makes a mark, turns the world opinion in Pakistan's favor,or least exposes the lies and hypocrisy that makes you fume. You live abroad, so use all the means open to you. And one wonders at the readers who read these columns just to exclaim, 'A great / wonderful/ fantastic article'!...this achieves NOTHING.
Naseema Perveen
June 28, 2012 10:38 pm
a very thorough and excellent assessment......i wish i could be able to analyse the situations in the same way,,,,thumbs up!
Naseema Perveen
June 28, 2012 10:35 pm
and strong arguments need a strong understanding of the situation...
Abdul Rehman
June 28, 2012 11:04 am
US says " They are bad". We are relying " You are more bad." But this is no solution. Rather we should work hard to change sitaution in Pakistan without blaming anyone.
ramanan
June 29, 2012 7:22 am
And to think Pakistan got into all this mess out of spite for India ; I understand why hatred is the most destructive of emotions, I mean, self-destructive.
A S K
June 29, 2012 7:24 am
"Wow!!! You accuse Christine Fair" well this pretty much sums up the comment and the American hubris. Turning a blind eye to your own incompetency and the convoluted political agenda so some one can win an election is not serving the interest of American people.
Satyagrahi
June 29, 2012 7:26 am
Americans have forgotten humanity for their country's interests. Let India and Pakistan fight against each other.Their weapons business should not suffer.It should be flurished all the way. No worries how many peoples dies. In that way who are animals.
deepak
June 30, 2012 10:37 am
Pakistan your leadership is in wrong hands.. Hope they do their responsibility before it gets too streatched to be amendable.... Some serious unbiased work has to be done... All i wish .. Best of luck....
El Cid
July 2, 2012 7:29 am
TO: Dr. Murtaza Haider: Sir, in appreciation of your skill, courage, and just humane cause, a humble request: Yours is an international level article, the likes of which Pakistan desperately needs and the World must hear, again and again, repeatedly. It is humbly suggested that you tune it up a bit, add critical references, and send it to “Foreign Policy” first dibs...and others. Which publications actually publishes it will depend on their underlying agenda/objectives. You give it your best shot, no pun intended. Best Regards, El Cid
Majid-Los Angles-USA
July 2, 2012 7:00 am
Presenting facts does not make one disloyal. Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. And to be fair and not make another "MISTAKE" please note that he is Dr. Murtaza Haider, and not Mr. Murtaza Haider--A major difference for those who know.
Jamal
July 2, 2012 6:46 am
@Masood: And you are a PhD.? You don't come through as one.
El Cid
July 2, 2012 4:26 am
Dr. Murtaza Haider's Keen mind cuts like a scalpel...as his autopsy of Professor Fair's Foreign Policy article amply demonstrates. Absolutely brilliant...!
Susan Albright.
July 2, 2012 3:50 am
He really got your got, didn't he? S. Albright. Washington DC.
El Cid
July 2, 2012 9:04 am
Finally...and about time too. Hallelujah.
ram
July 4, 2012 2:42 am
Why the writer gave so much importance to Dr.(un)fair? As Bill gates said you trust to the extent that it cannot be misused!! US citizen can write for and anti and no one can stop this Freedom. See how Obama and Romney are ridiculed by writers!!!
moeen qureshi
July 3, 2012 6:54 pm
respected murtaza sahib..you are a wonderful writer with a knack for convincing your readers...may God bless u with more wisdom and power.....
prabhatpal23
June 27, 2012 11:18 am
"Dr. Afridi was in fact found guilty of conspiring with a militant Taliban group, which is led by the Taliban commander Mangal Bagh." Oh I am sure he was!! Did not read a single line after this.
NickM1979
June 27, 2012 2:07 pm
Wow!!! You accuse Christine Fair of writing a biased article in an equally biased piece of writing. Sure Pakistan in the innocent lamb that got taken for a ride through the seventies. Pakistan wanted nothing to do with Taliban to create a "Strategic Depth" in Afghanistan, Pakistan has nothing to do with LET killing people in India, the attack on parliament, the attack on Mumbai. All these are CIA/RAW/MOSSAD funded exercises to malign the pious Pakistan You may not like the tone of Christine in her article, but the tone signifies the American frustration in a double dealing partner. Too long has Pakistan run with the hares and hunt with the hounds. The mess Pakistan created to fight off Indian army has come home now to roost. By refusing to accept the reality and play the victim card, Pakistan further dilutes its credibility in the international arena. You can fool some people all the time and all people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all the time.
omar
June 27, 2012 2:06 pm
The second last paragraph statement "Their bailouts have only subsidised Pakistan’s ruling elite" need to add the elite we the people of Pakistan keep on electing again & again.
Amit-Atlanta-USA
June 27, 2012 2:44 pm
I was of the MISTAKEN idea that the author Mr.Murtaza Haider was fair in his portrayal of Pakistan's failings, but this piece effecively convinced me that Mr.Haider is JUST ANOTHER PATRIOTIC Pakistani who is disloyal to his adopted country and its ally the US.
Bakhtawer Bilal
June 27, 2012 11:43 am
It feels so good and it makes an impact when you read an article denouncing America based on facts and relevance, rather, "because I said so."
dhiraj garg
June 27, 2012 11:40 am
"Even back in 1980, Mr. van Hollen warned Pakistanis that the “[g]uns provided to the Pushtun tribes today to fight the Soviet-dominated regime in Kabul could later be turned toward Islamabad.” I wish someone had heeded Mar. van Hollen’s warnings." - the best and most important lines of this article. By blaming others for your mistakes, you are just extending ruling elite tried and tested nuskha and by this, you are not going to improve as a nation because for that you must acknowledge that there is some deficiency but "nothing is wrong with us but with US" attitude has brought pakistan to this state. they are doing what they are supposed to do as per their so-called national interest but you are not doing as per your national interests. there lies your fault. accept or reject, Your future and your dignity is in your hands Mr. Murtaza.
Hasanalirana
June 27, 2012 11:32 am
US-PAK relations are kind of Love-Hate relationship that most of the times gets far too complex than Egyptian Pyramids..........
Nadeem A. Sheikh
June 27, 2012 11:24 am
Very Nice and an Overdue piece, I read! Bravo Dr. Haider
Murtaza Jamal
June 27, 2012 11:26 am
Excellent analysis Murtaza. Well done. I only wish this gets published in other newspapers and journals particularly those that are widely read in the U.S.
Syed Sajjad
June 27, 2012 2:37 pm
Why should Army hide presence of Bin Ladden in Abbotabad. It is a sheer case of incompetence, and why is Dr Afridi being defended by Praveen Mathur? When it has been proved that he had links with anti Pakistan militants. I know Pakistan will give in to the pressure being exerted by US, least we can do is to get Dr Afia back in Pakistan in return
ali abbas
June 27, 2012 4:05 pm
Then Pakistan need to stop all the infighting and try to focus on self reliance. Its sad to say that Pakistanis have no idea what self reliance means. We keep wandering aroud the world with a begging bowl in our hand and expect that other countries should treat us with fairness.
Abdullah Hussain
June 27, 2012 12:04 pm
Amongst the irritants coming in the way of a good Pakistan - American are the anti Pakistan comments given by given from time to time both by officials & non officials. The day Americans starts to understand the problems inherited as a result of playing a key nation in the war against terror things will start to move in the right direction. America must very clearly understand that Pakistan is the worst sufferer for supporting it and should therefore be dealt with respect & humbleness. Threats will never do any good in maintaining or improving relationships. Drone attacks may have killed some wanted individuals but overall it has also cemented anti American sentiments.
Ahsan Ali Suhag
June 27, 2012 1:33 pm
very inclusive and indepth write up.... America stands on the cusp of failure in Afghanistan. the arrogance of power has lost its punch in Afghanistan and blaming Pakistan, bombing Pakistan and killing Pakistanis is hardly the answer for America ’s woes. inevitably public suspicion of America’ s malignant intent towards Pakistan has greatly intensified.
annas
June 27, 2012 1:33 pm
I highly appreciate the strong analysis carried out but i fear that no concerned person is going to read this.
ali abbas
June 27, 2012 4:06 pm
I am a Pakistani but I agree with you.
Faraz
June 27, 2012 2:29 pm
He was arrested for treason, a charge every country would have implicated for working with a foreign country's intelligence agency. He was further arrested for his role in ruining the hard work that polio drives had done by giving fake drops that subsequently resulted in polio cases. If that were your kid I'd wonder what you'd want for Shakeel.
S Shastri
June 27, 2012 12:24 pm
I find the author's defense inadeqaute to counter the priiginal article.
Praveen Mathur
June 27, 2012 12:20 pm
Author is in denial when he mentions that there is no proof of collusion between Pakistani army and Osama Bin Ladin. I do not think Pakistani army is that incompetent. Also arrest of Shakil Afridi, it is obvious that he is arrested for helping CIA to nab Osama Bin Ladin.
raika45
June 27, 2012 12:18 pm
The misdeeds of previous administrations, have brought your country to this stage.Getting out of this quicksand in which your country is stuck and slowly sinking is not so simple Murtaza sahib.You state "no respect comes bundled with IMF bailouts".The question arises;do you have an alternative to raise millions for your country?Don't talk of taxes.It has been tried and it failed.Your rich and powerful will never oblige.They are a law of their own.You have learned nothing from your all weather friends,China.Make peace with those from whom you can make money.Once you have that cash, ONLY THEN can you dictate terms.No offence meant.
millerd
June 27, 2012 1:31 pm
Congratulations, Murtaza , you have dealt with the thorny issues of Pak/ America love hate relationship rationally and unbiasedly. I only wish as other readers do that if this could be read by common Americans it would make more sense to them , than their government. The trust deficit between the two countries that has been a hallmark of our mutual relationship has been created by America's lack of sensitivities to Pakistan's sovereignty and its age old perceptions in relation to our neighboring country. The basic trust deficit lies here. Majority of problems Pakistan is facing now is America's making. Unfortunately for Pakistan , it never had charismatic bold and honest leadership. America was always able to exploit Pakistan corrupt governments , make it fight their wars by pouring billions and billions of US dollars into the country and giving a free hand to corrupt regimes in the country to loot and plunder the poured money , but at a price which, we as a nation are still paying. Had America selflessly helped Pakistan all through these years . Pakistan would have been a most ardent global partner of America , and it would not have drifted towards China.
FroyoBaggins
June 27, 2012 1:24 pm
The irony here is that while US Govt will listen to Pakistani concerns, US media often doesn't have the journalistic integrity to investigate the issue in an objective manner.
ABC
June 27, 2012 1:18 pm
Sweet heart Shakil Afridi is arrested for having links with banned outfits. Secondly, working with a foreign agency in your own country without the consent/keeping in loop of your own security agencies and the government is and always was considered treason. This is not just in Pakistan, it happens anywhere in the world. But I suppose all you people can do is blame Pakistan for all the evils in this world. As far as Pakistan having any links with OBL as you so casually proclaim, please provide some solid evidence rather than mere speculations. Just so you know, with India and America leading the game in Afghanistan off-late, even though India does not share a border with Afghanistan, opium production has increased significantly in the region. I wonder who the real criminal is.
ali abbas
June 27, 2012 4:03 pm
Well lets put is this way. Both Pakistan and US are trying to fool their people and the rest of the world. The only difference is that Americans are too dumb to realize this. Atleast in pakistan we know when our govt is trying to pull a fast one on us.
Akbar
June 27, 2012 1:11 pm
The excuses that you mentioned are just not enough and valid. The facts and incidents have been thoroughly proved otherwise.Yes islamic barbarians rule Pakistan without a doubt.What makes you think otherwise. The US is right and it has been right most of the time!! THE FACT IS THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE IN USA AND INDIA WHO KNOW MORE ABOUT PAKISTAN THAN EVEN PAKISTAN MEDIA. TIME AND AGAIN THING HAVE BEEN PROVEN RIGHT.
farhanshahidkhan
June 27, 2012 1:02 pm
Wonderful article except Dr Afridi's stuff. He had to be punished even if it was for finding Osama
farhanshahidkhan
June 27, 2012 1:01 pm
Osama is just a bogey man for US to channelize the wrath of 9/11 failure. What Dr Afridi did was plain wrong. He should have reported it to relevant authorities of the country. If today Dr Afridi is not punished, then a precedence will be set where everyone would be willing to work for CIA
Raj Patel
June 27, 2012 1:00 pm
It is universal that "" Samarth ko na hi dos Gosai"". Mighty can't be at fault. Pakistan's problem invited by themselves and America is taking advantage of it. Americans only consider themselves to be human others are animals and thats why they hunted fellow human in Af-Pak as a wild animal. This is reality. If Pakistan has choice other then taking help from America to eliminate terrorism then thay should go for that.
ali abbas
June 27, 2012 4:00 pm
I am sorry to say that Pakistani army and her intelligence agencies are really "that incompetent". They are too busy spying and consipring their own people and not paying attention to their real job. You want an evidence of their incompetence; US halicopter flew deep into Pakistani terrorist and killed that guy, took his body and flew back to Afghanistan while Pakistani military people slept sounding. Alas! their incompetence is proven.
Well-Wisher
June 27, 2012 4:00 pm
America is not saint.... however Pakistan should understand and accept that everything can not be blame on others, after having close friendship over several decades with America, now you are blaming her for everything bad happen in Pakistan. The only thing Pakistan losing respect world wide, their double standards and denial mode. Of course America and other country also have double standard but they manage cause they are not dependent on other's money and help. So wake up before it too late....
Abdul Waheed
June 27, 2012 12:55 pm
An excellent article based on objectivity and facts.
alp
June 28, 2012 1:36 am
Americans have to care about vaccination of our kids while we do not. Why Americans have to be responsible for us? Why are we not responsible for ourselves? How would blaming others' actions instead of our antics practically help? I am not sure to whom is this article directed: American policy makers or Pakistani public. If it is latter they are already converted. The earlier probably would not pay attention or even know about it.
Baba Sidni
June 28, 2012 1:39 am
Well done - bravo. For once an article in Dawn, with all of my thoughts, combined together. I hope more on the same path.
Muhammad Iqbal
June 28, 2012 1:42 am
Thank you for writing such a awesome article.
Mandeep
June 28, 2012 1:54 am
It appears Mr Haidar is very baddly rattled by Christine Fair's observations. While Ms Fair might be biased and perhaps went too far, however, most of arguments by the author are also weak. Raymond Davis might be a ruffian or a thug, but why you let him in the country ? and how you claim that 2 persons he killed were innocent and didnt have a history of relationship with Raymond Davis ? Why would a professional undercover like Raymond Davis shoot people to raise heckles ? I am not justifying killing of 2 Pakistanis but am asking why do you stop your argument in between ? Similarily, Relationship of Osama's being found in close vicinity of a cantonment is that such places the world's most wanted man would avoid by all means as they are under comparatively higher degree of surveillance because of its senstivity. What sort of cantonment it is or what level of cadets are trained there is immaterial. It is hinting at complicity of Pakistan's army.
Avtar
June 28, 2012 2:03 am
Dr Haider should stick to his area of expertise rather than to express opinion on all walks of life in a credible fashion. My Pakistani friends think of cantonments still being run as under the British. As far as New Delhi is concerned only a part of it is considered cantonment. It is true with population growth most areas around the Delhi cantonment have been built-up. Like the British, part of Delhi and Agra Red Fort's are still occupied by the army and not open to the public.
ss verma
June 28, 2012 2:15 am
Weak arguments need excessive words ...but still remain weak. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Junaid
June 28, 2012 2:16 am
Because you are not impartial...:-)
Junaid
June 28, 2012 2:17 am
Excellent article!
Papa Gowswami
June 28, 2012 2:03 pm
I am surprise to see your comments published. May be Dawn's Editor are in sleep mode and will wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! one day. Jo Gadda kodan chala usme kud he gir pada
Farhan
June 28, 2012 2:44 am
Thanks for publishing an article like this. It once again shows that when our Pakistani politicians leave a vacuum for world to criticise us, it is these brave journalists like Murtaza who fill this vacuum and convey Pakistan's point of view on various international issues in a robust and factual manner.
Bala Varadarajan
June 28, 2012 3:27 am
The author seems to be in total denial. Bin Laden was living amongst them in a compound with high security and the Pakistani establishment did not know anything about it. There is also no evidence that Santa Claus does not exist; tooth fairies do not exist and so on. Pakistan has been playing a double game (I must say very smartly and successfully) but now the chickens have come home to roost. Enjoy
Saleem
June 28, 2012 3:48 am
A good article that highlights the axis of evil constitute by the US and the Pakistani security establishment and rulling elite class. This axis of evil is responsible for miseries and poverty of millions of innocent people live in AFPAK region and beyond.
Zeeshan Shamsi
June 28, 2012 4:24 am
Very nice read and appreciate you objective analysis. Bravo to you for doing a critical analysis of a very loosely argued attempt to yet again demonize Pakistan. Indeed the newcons still seem to be in control of the US policy, promoting one war after the other, seeking peace from the seat of a gun barrel. I hope this peace does not come to Pakistan in our lifetimes.
Osmond Reynolds
June 28, 2012 4:32 am
Well the very basic and most important point missed by the author is. If Pakistan cleared out its own trash there would be no need whatsoever for a foreign power to do so.
saiker
June 28, 2012 4:39 am
Can't believe someone really said that....you don't punish a person for finding a criminal
saiker
June 28, 2012 4:42 am
Sitting in Canada: the only country that accepts Pakistani immigrants the author doubts about Obama's second term in office? he must be watching a lot of Fox news
asif ahmed
June 28, 2012 4:48 am
Yes I agree with you that we dont have millions or billions dollars to get us bail out from IMF or world bank . But distortion of truth is in no way acceptable even in poor African states if this is the case then no war can be stopped and every powerfull nation get right to attack on his neighbouring states . It will bring scenario of second world war where alies fought together to imperialistic designs of germany . We have law and when we trial a murderer Mr Raymond Davis then no court in world give right to a defence contractor to skip out will US Bail out any person on a parking ticket even if that person is a respectable US citizen or Why it is necessary to abide by state laws for all people inside US borders and in Pakistan US nationals doing secret metting . Its Only ASYMETRIC warfare we are in and we are dealing it lawfully we never done anything in CIA style who terminates people not only across borders but their own senators in US . By the way what is wrong if US has to pay price of containers booked for NATO forces . wHERE IN THE WORLD IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO NOT CHARGE SUCH TRAFFIC AND give them tax expemption. So US need not to appologies his salala check post attack but all misdeeds to Pakistan and its citizens. we survived 90s era when under presseler ammendments our Aid was stopped its US who need to sell out its Arms not pakistan who can buy things from other nation. Its understood US aid is very much required by Pakistanis to get on with its daily life but in no way some body brand us as enemiy and expect us to be going out of law to become scape goat for its own mis adventures We dont get your aid in our system it all goes in government corruption and some NGOs pokets so we can live with what we are but Its Us who needs to understand how can he run secret campaign against Pakistan state throw private contractors and then expect friendly SUBMISSION for his goals
Hari
June 28, 2012 3:01 pm
Iam an Indian, I too agree with Keith. If America is not hunting terrorist in AF-PAK, all of these animals (terrorists) would have turned towards India. Just to win Some friends in dawn,dont make wild statements. Yes there are civilian casualties, hope america betters its technology and spy network better, so that civilians are not killed.
Awais Lodhi
June 28, 2012 5:11 am
Professor Fair indeed made several sound observations in the same article. She wants Pakistan to curb militancy (but fails to appreciate how the US presence in the region fuels it), resolve disputes with India and invest in its people. I agree with her wholeheartedly. Irrespective of what America does in the region, the Pakistani State has to reign in the militants. Even back in 1980, Mr. van Hollen warned Pakistanis that the “[g]uns provided to the Pushtun tribes today to fight the Soviet-dominated regime in Kabul could later be turned toward Islamabad.” I wish someone had heeded Mar. van Hollen’s warnings. I SUGGEST YOU READ THE ARTICLE AGAIN, great piece Mr. Murtaza
Awais Lodhi
June 28, 2012 5:19 am
great work, i suggest you also do a piece on FATA aimed at telling the world how the poor people of FATA have been neglected by the government and have taken hostage by militants.. there's more to FATA than just militancy.....
asif
June 28, 2012 5:46 am
Will US accept someone on its soil working for other foreign Intelligence agency. And give respect If no then how come he sees Dr shakeel working covertly without government knowledge for CIA
Chowdhury Benarasi
June 28, 2012 5:54 am
Great article and well written. I am pretty sure, Pakistan can survive very well without U.S or IMF help. Get rid of the corrupt politicians and so called elite class those who have looted the country from it's beginning. Land reform should be done ASAP as the Indians did long time ago. These feudal lords don't want the mass to be educated Yes, white race have a problem of big ego i.e. they think all other races in the world are inferior to them. And this particular downgrading attitude had led them to develop big military muscle to dominate the world. They want to have everything and they don't want others to achieve the same. This particular group of people always cry when their so called interest is harmed. They also forget that every human being on earth originated from black Africa. I can see there is a ray of light at the end of the tunnel as most of the under developed countries are catching up with modern technology pretty fast.. I pray and hope, in future, no particular country will point finger to a specific country because of her weak military might or economy. Pakistan should develop good relations with India and should make defense pacts with China, Russia and neighboring countries on common understanding irrespective of political systems, caste, creed and religion as long as those countries don't interfere in one's home affairs.
MTL
June 28, 2012 6:01 am
I agree with you but do you think that you are in a position to 'dictate terms' to your creditor?
kuduka
June 28, 2012 6:05 am
Blunders of blunders.... Report them to the right authorities? Hollow words indeed... What would have happened? The harbor incident after which the journalist disappeared, Daniel Pearl... I agree mine isn't a nation where justice is fair.. But reporting to the authorities the whereabouts of OBL would have made him the scapegoat... And about each nation being capable of Self sufficiency, true to the last word... However are your power hungry politicos (hand in glove with Militias and the Defence) ever going to relenquish their sole source of Power? Food for thought Farhan, food for thought
V L Rao
June 28, 2012 6:31 am
How times have changed: the Fairest of the Fair is now Un-Fair!
murali
June 28, 2012 6:36 am
courageously cool minded, this can't be seen in many articles that differ with USA's polices. Kudos to Murtaza Haiderji, Such brilliant writings make biased minds think neutrally at least once. How ever, Just Like Dr Fair, Mr. Murtaza also has willfully omitted the exploitation of innocent Pakistani citizens' feeling and faith by so called defense councils. If USA has triggered the misery, these people are carrying it forward.
murali
June 28, 2012 6:54 am
Courageously cool minded, which, can't be seen in many articles that differ with USA's polices. Kudos to Murtaza Haiderji, Such brilliant writings make biased minds think neutrally at least once. How ever, Just Like Dr Fair, Mr. Murtaza also has willfully omitted the exploitation of innocent Pakistani citizens feeling and faith by so called defense councils. If USA has triggered the misery, these people are carrying it forward
Mustafa
June 28, 2012 7:01 am
Those who wants to see peace between Pakistan and America should know as long as you have learned people like Christine Fair and Murtaza Haider adding fuel to the fire of hate between Pakistan and America, there will be no peace.
khattak
June 28, 2012 7:23 am
to my frd well wisher,,,,sir the close friendship was alwayzz was never a friendship but always using its people and government,,,,,,, plzzz open ur eyes and start thinking out of the box,,,,,, ur war on terror took us 10 years back in south asia,,,,,,,v r a country with lot of potential and arrogance and that is wat USA hates about us.
abro
June 28, 2012 7:27 am
I agreed with your following observation "they are doing what they are supposed to do as per their so-called national interest but you are not doing as per your national interests"
Keith G
June 28, 2012 7:52 am
I am American and am disappointed at your wild animal generalization. Are all Pakistani's Taliban American haters? Of course not. There is much to complain about but I would argue there is much more to accomplish based on common interest and cooperation. Countries that mutually share commerce, culture and religion don't go to war. They BOTH prosper.
SQZ
June 28, 2012 7:53 am
Jawab-e-Shikwa :) An excellent and thought provoking piece... We are addicted to the US drug... We need to get rid of the mentality that we can't live without them. We have sacrificed enough.
Talat Ali
June 28, 2012 7:57 am
Hillary Clinton has admitted in a talk show last week that they (US) have made mistakes in their relationship with Paklstan which are a low today but she mentions that they (US) cannot afford to do away with us. This is the bottom line of the interview which was of course were lined with threats as of their wont when talking about Pakistan. But the fact is they need us to give them a way out of the quagmire that they have put themselves in. It's like the proverbial blanket which will not leave us. For them we are more dangerous to their security than any other nation in the world simply because we're nuclear.They have to hold on to us we don't have as the wonderful article reveals.
Shuaib
June 28, 2012 8:01 am
Is it Dawn's website???? Surprised to see some courage on part of Dawn's web team!!!
Shahid
June 28, 2012 8:53 am
As if Americans are not suffering, every day a lot of Americans are dying without medicine, unable to pay for. A big lot is jobless and unable to pay even for their food. The tide is turning, which way? let’s wait and see.
Zeeshan Shamsi
June 28, 2012 9:27 am
Neither are some of our Indian friends are unable to see through their own biases and hatred for Pakistan and all things Pakistani, minus the Shan masala, which I think you guys adore.
Zeeshan Shamsi
June 28, 2012 9:28 am
So the facts he is quoting are emotional, and the conjecture and dramatic verbosity presented by Fair is facts? Get off your horse, and feel the ground.
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