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Afghanistan's top envoy to Pakistan Omar Zakhilwal on Monday rejected claims that Pakistani security forces killed 50 Afghan soldiers in retaliation to the Chaman cross-border attack, saying that only two Afghan soldiers were slain and seven others injured.
"Woke up to celebratory front page headlines today on all Pakistani papers saying Pakistan killed 50 Afghani soldiers and injured 100 in Chaman clash," Zakhilwal tweeted.
"[The] truth is only 2 Afghan soldiers were shaheed and about 7 injured," he added.
On Sunday, Inspector General (IG) Frontier Corps (FC) Balochistan Maj Gen Nadeem Anjum claimed that 50 Afghan security personnel were killed and another 100 injured as Pakistani forces retaliated to unprovoked firing by Afghan border forces on security personnel in Balochistan's Chaman area last week.
The FC Balochistan chief said four or five check posts were also destroyed when Pakistani border guards retaliated to the cross-border attack, adding that Afghanistan pleaded for ceasefire on May 5, which Pakistan accepted.
On Friday, Pakistan closed the border after attacks by Afghan forces on census staff and security personnel escorting them left 12 people dead and 40 others injured.
The Afghan envoy slammed the reports, saying, "The Chaman clash left casualties, deaths and injured on Pakistan side too but we, instead of celebrating, called it unfortunate and regrettable."
Zakhilwal asserted that the loss of even two lives "are too many if our claim for seeking good neighbourly relations is genuine and if we mean well for each other."
It should be noted that in Sunday's briefing, the IG FC had stated: "We are not happy over their losses since they are our Muslim brothers."
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May 08, 2017 11:37am
The cat is out of the bag, whom should we trust on, claims or counter claims? The counter claims seem to be true.
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May 08, 2017 11:39am
Denials and counter claims from boh sides like India and Pakistan, nobody can be sure who is speaking truth. Instead of mudslinging if all coopoanf learn to live in peace, it will be good for all peoples of the region.
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May 08, 2017 11:39am
Afghanistan should not have resorted to violence in the first place. Loss of life and both sides is a big loss and should not have happened.
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May 08, 2017 11:39am
this is what i commented yesterday.numbers were too even like 50&100 to believe its real.
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May 08, 2017 11:42am
Very Sane response to an insanity.
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May 08, 2017 11:42am
Who shouts the loudest wins, irrespective of ground realities.
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May 08, 2017 11:42am
'50 kills ,100 injured' No, that doesn't sound sketchy at all!!
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May 08, 2017 11:42am
Why didn't the ambassador offered his condolence on loss of 7 innocent civilian lives lost due to their un provoked firing.. Secondly, the FC spokes person said that we are not happy with their loss since they were our muslim brothers.
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May 08, 2017 11:45am
Afghanistan seems like the wiser older brother of the two.
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May 08, 2017 11:46am
Well said Afghans. Certain section of establishment regularly feeds all sort of fake or inflated data for the consumption of masses.
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May 08, 2017 11:48am
A very foolish statement !
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May 08, 2017 11:49am
"The Chaman clash left casualties, deaths and injured on Pakistan side too but we, instead of celebrating, called it unfortunate and regrettable."
Well said, Afghan ambassador sir
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May 08, 2017 11:50am
I am not sure what mileage security forces get by inflating casualty figures of the other side. But relieved that there are 48 less grieving families than what was thought to be the case.
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May 08, 2017 11:50am
Well done Aghanistan.
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May 08, 2017 11:51am
We must understand the facts are known to the World. The story claiming high number casualties are for Pakistani public only and to prove superiority. The facts are always very different from stories.
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May 08, 2017 11:51am
In case of retaliation,every country except Pakistan doesn't disclose real number of their casualties.
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May 08, 2017 11:52am
CPEC will solve all problems and Post CPEC Pakistan will give donations to the US and China.
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May 08, 2017 11:53am
Feel sorry for ordinary afghans, there men-in-power are not at all doing any good for them
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May 08, 2017 11:55am
I am wandering how exactly figure of 50 death and 100 injured were calculated
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May 08, 2017 11:56am
I am wandering how exactly round figure of 50 death and 100 injured were calculated
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May 08, 2017 11:56am
Who should be believed ?
Is this yet another topic for two neighbouring countries to fight on ?
Is it necessary always to issue statements and make claims that do not reflect reality and are meant merely to play with people's sentiments ?
This is too bad.
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May 08, 2017 11:58am
It means these nine Afghans forces accompanied with 41 proxies????
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May 08, 2017 12:04pm
this is stupid, we should not be shooting at each other. Frankly the border commanders need to be held responsible for such incidents, and they must talk to each other.
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May 08, 2017 12:06pm
Very sad indeed. I hope that sanity would prevail and we stop being played for others' gain.
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May 08, 2017 12:12pm
How did Pakistan count the Deaths and Causalities on the Afghan side?
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May 08, 2017 12:16pm
Tensions with neighbouring countries isn't in our interests.
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May 08, 2017 12:16pm
Do not be confused my heart is saddened by the loss of human lives no matter it is on Afghan, Pakistan or Indian side no matter it is soldier or civilian each human life is precious. But what seems clear to me that slowly but surely Pakistan is solving this myth of Durand line for good by busting the illusions of Afghanistan and busting of these illusions will bring PEACE to the area. Indian and Pakistan Indian and Bangladesh was once same country and faces the same situation like divided villages and populations but with the resolve issues are solved now two Punjabs and two Bangals have no border issues. Human life is precious and must be protected and respected but deal Afghanistan just as a country nothing more nothing less
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May 08, 2017 12:18pm
Mature, wise and sensible statement! Please learn from him!
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May 08, 2017 12:19pm
The one country that can never be Pakistan's friend is Afghanistan. We need to come out of any illusions. Send all afghans back to their country and fix other problems.
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May 08, 2017 12:20pm
It is not a matter of celebrating casualties rather a pure matter of lending Afghanistan hands to the arch-rival of Pakistan to causing such turmoil on border. Please abstain from being part of the nefarious and covert ill-wills of the regional player, who is losing ground by its proxy warfare against Pakistan.
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May 08, 2017 12:20pm
Its a sad state of affairs on both borders..there are no winners.. Just finances diverted from health, education of all involved. Though its true ispr tweets have always quoted numbers greater ..guess for local consumption.
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May 08, 2017 12:21pm
Very insane response Mr. Ambassador. You started it with 9 civilian casualties on Pakistan side. Now you are starting a number game, shameful. Lets not underestimate our restraint otherwise you and your master knows what blow we can inflict.
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May 08, 2017 12:21pm
Very sane and mature response from a very responsible leadership.
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May 08, 2017 12:22pm
@Angry pitbull Sir it is not India Pakistan border it is PAK Afghan border which was open and movement was free till very recently. The area which is in question is location where border is bisecting a village so it is not that rocket science to confirm the figures.
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May 08, 2017 12:23pm
Who do you trust? Both side tell lies.
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May 08, 2017 12:23pm
Stop these games for humanity's sake. Its just one humanity against itself.
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May 08, 2017 12:24pm
Hats off to the Afghans for their mature and sensible response.
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May 08, 2017 12:27pm
@Satyameva Jayate beacuase Pakistan was requested to provide medical support after the clash. Incident was unfortunate though. It doesnt matter how many died or got injured such statements must be avoided.
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May 08, 2017 12:27pm
Mr ambassador why you took two days to count number of casualties?? Mr ambassador your claim is same as Indian claimed of strategic strike! The tweet is an attempt only to undermine the Pak forces professionalism and to hide the embarrassment you and your partners have faced.
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May 08, 2017 12:27pm
@zeeshan agree. and once again, Pakistan was humiliated on the international stage. Yet another failure of foreign policy and diplomacy. But now, we know that significantly less lives were lost in the conflict, which is a relief.
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May 08, 2017 12:27pm
Afghanistan is a wise and mature country by now evolved over the years.
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May 08, 2017 12:28pm
This is a very matured response from the envoy.
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May 08, 2017 12:30pm
Hey, everybody is from a different school, using different counting methods.
So what if anyone is off by a factor of 50?
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May 08, 2017 12:31pm
Someone is not telling the truth. Huge discrepancy about the numbers quoted by both sides.
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May 08, 2017 12:33pm
looking at the comments everyone is commending the envoy on a mature response... can someone ask why there was a cross border attack in the first place??
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May 08, 2017 12:33pm
Both are brotherly countries and must solve border issue peacefully through negotiations.
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May 08, 2017 12:41pm
did any body condemn the coward attack of the Aghanis for attacking our civilians?????
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May 08, 2017 12:45pm
@Mohajir
It is our responsibility to identify such culprits and bring them to justice.
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May 08, 2017 12:45pm
Yes of course you ungrateful lot two are too many as compared to the same ethnic twelve people killed whose only crime was to be on the other side of the border.
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May 08, 2017 12:47pm
It is very unfortunate to have tension on western borders. This situation calls for sanity and wisdom from both sides.
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May 08, 2017 12:47pm
Would have been great if he had apologised for attacking the census team
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May 08, 2017 12:49pm
Someone's FO and Establishment needs to learn how to be Mature and wise. And I put my card and support behind the mature and wise side. Bravo Afghans
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May 08, 2017 12:49pm
Aghanistan should learn that pakistan is a well wisher of afghanistan..you were nothing if pakistan would'nt support you in previous war against russian and also ask ur afghani brothers nd sisters living in pakistan for the last 40 years that how pakistani people treated them so afghanistan should respect pakistan and afghanistan must understand that if india is killing innocent muslims in kashmir and india then how they could be well wisher of afghanistan..think my afghani brother nd sisters before speaking against pakistan
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May 08, 2017 12:53pm
Love Afghanistan. Long live Afghanistan.
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May 08, 2017 12:53pm
I'm glad that the casualties were not 50 and I'm upset that 9 Pakistanis and 2 Afghans lost their lives over senseless conflict. We should try to resolve our differences instead of doing this. I really hope that the Afghan government comes to its senses and stop this insanity. They should realize that we are their brothers and we are the ones who would always be there for them. Instead they are becoming puppets of the Indian government.
P.S I have nothing against the average Afghans or Indians.
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May 08, 2017 12:54pm
@Satyameva Jayate : How did Pakistan count the Deaths and Causalities on the Afghan side?
with $1 Chinese calculator..
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May 08, 2017 12:55pm
irresponsible statement from both sides of the borders exaggerated death numbers to gain points. shame on both the sides security agencies
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May 08, 2017 12:55pm
2 or 50 not a matter. In future, it can go far above if Afghan Army wont stop this insane act. Pak Army zindabad.
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May 08, 2017 12:59pm
what's the outcome?
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May 08, 2017 01:08pm
murky game of politics.
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May 08, 2017 01:13pm
It is not the first time that Pakistan has been honest in reporting the matters.
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May 08, 2017 01:18pm
They martyred our civilian brothers and we killed their military men in response. Nothing wrong in it.
Our brothers who were first line to welcome Afghanis realized that afghans are not their brothers but their killers.
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May 08, 2017 01:24pm
@Ravi vancouver Difference is, we can never hide our casualties in India. Widow pensions are paid out - a simple RTI inquiry to the defense ministry will blow the lid on any cover-up. Every slain soldier is afforded a heart-felt and dignified farewell too.
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May 08, 2017 01:28pm
Everyone knows who is speaking the truth
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May 08, 2017 01:31pm
Referring to tweets I want to say that if he, like us, really means good ties, he should ask his government to avert such nefarious designs of attacking innocent people.
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May 08, 2017 01:36pm
No matter what number, are they going investigate and penalize the ones responsible for initiating this exchange?
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May 08, 2017 01:37pm
"We are not happy over their losses since they are our Muslim brothers." read these comments Mr Ambassador before casting allegations on Pakistan
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May 08, 2017 01:37pm
@Shahrukh cpec is a road for china to export their goods....you will get some penny for it... Thats all.... Unless they products built in pakistan, Pakistan has no advantage... And also please calculate your repayment amount.... ONE MORE their very cheap goods will flood your market... If no improvements in your market, there will no real growth...
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May 08, 2017 01:41pm
@Kapoor Kashmir will be free!
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May 08, 2017 01:44pm
@NaradA Muni the way you are making fun of the Chinese shows that how jealous you are with China. India is 200 years behind China but behaves like it is 500 years ahead. Chinese firms have captured the whole world with their making be it good or low quality. You cannot reach that in centuries...the laugh is on you for pretending to be advanced and see the highest no of people without toilets and poverty is in your country
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May 08, 2017 01:46pm
People will believe whoever they want to believe.
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May 08, 2017 01:48pm
@Faisal first of all you are believing in Afghan envoy of 2 casualties which is not sure. Whatever the casualties are is condemnable but the Afghans are responsible for it and with the help of Indians they want to destabilise Pakistan. InshaAllah their nefarious plans won't work and Pakistan be successful
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May 08, 2017 01:52pm
@Khalid
For which both should be amenable to reason.....war cannot be a solution !!
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May 08, 2017 01:53pm
Thats good news.
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May 08, 2017 01:53pm
@indian from heart
Your mature and wise friends started the clash by killing unarmed census team and small children without any reason .. Lets not forget we are still hosting over 3 millions of mature and wise afghan refugees If we were like your mature friends we could put the tally well over 3 million not report 50.
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May 08, 2017 01:56pm
If the casualties on both sides in both encounters were as much as claimed, foreign media would have picked up. The first attack was mischief making inside Afghanistan players after the good NSA visit.
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May 08, 2017 01:58pm
Who should we trust? I am glad there have been far fewer casualties in Afghanistan. Nobody deserves to die a senseless death. However, the important thing is whether Afghanistan has learnt the lesson and will not engage in such a reckless conduct again. Afghanistan should know that the people of Pakistan are committed to having zero tolerance for any aggressive conduct by any of its neighbor on its soil. The people of Pakistan want peace in the region and want to resolve their problems. Afghanistan should not blame for its inept government and for its failure to bring back Taliban on the negotiating table. In addition, Afghanistan owes a public apology for its cross border mortar firing on Pakistani territory.
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May 08, 2017 01:59pm
Unfortunate incidents taking place in peaceful border.
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May 08, 2017 02:04pm
First of all Mr. Ambassador Afghan army started the unprovoked firing and NOT Pakistan. Let's get this fact out there before questioning the numbers. Secondly DG FC did mention in clear words that "We are not happy over their losses since they are our Muslim brothers" so I am not sure which celebrations you are talking about.
Stop playing into the hands of India and all will be fine. They are using you ONLY to create trouble in Pakistan on the Western border and you are willingly helping them out.
These are all the facts. Stop diverting attention to how many people were killed on either side.
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May 08, 2017 02:06pm
@Angry pitbull: Why, don't you read the word 'about'?
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May 08, 2017 02:12pm
Good job Afghanistan!
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May 08, 2017 02:12pm
Why it took whole day to respond Mr ambassador. The press conference was live where IG FC claimed the losses but Mr ambassador read that in newspaper next day. What kind of ambassador not see news.
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May 08, 2017 02:13pm
@Naxalite: Feel sorry for ordinary afghans, there men-in-power are not at all doing any good for them
You also do that on your side for those are in power on your side!
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May 08, 2017 02:17pm
@Mohajir Why did they attack Pakistani civilians and killed them?
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May 08, 2017 02:17pm
Let us not play the number game. Wounded pride leads to further bloodshed and misery. Canons never solve a political problem. The sooner the diplomats get to work the better it is. A soft stick is much better than a hard one!
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May 08, 2017 02:17pm
@Abdul rauf: Very sad indeed. I hope that sanity would prevail and we stop being played for others' gain.
We too hope sanity would prevail on such like you & would start thinking the same way for the whole world!
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May 08, 2017 02:19pm
Who is wrong?
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May 08, 2017 02:19pm
@amir khan I trust Pakistan
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May 08, 2017 02:19pm
Very embarrassing situation for Pakistan after Afgan Ambassador Statement
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May 08, 2017 02:22pm
It's shame, it does not matter 2 or 40 soldiers killed.
What matters is; Why innocent people were killed and who killed them. Who is showing senseless aggression here.
People of Pakistan always regarded people of Afghanistan as brothers and sisters and vice Versa.
Why did Afghan Army opened unprovoked firing on innocent people?
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May 08, 2017 02:34pm
The numbers should have been zero from both sides for both sides!Alas it isn't ! Thanks many lives saved.I am not happy for loss of lives from both sides ,they are our fellow HUMAN brothers !
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May 08, 2017 02:35pm
No body is celebrating here. Its a sad incidence for Pakistan. what i heard that several check posts been destroyed. Which is quite sad. But its something they had it coming.
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May 08, 2017 02:38pm
So who was behind the killing of the Pakistani citizens? Why didnt he come out and tweet on that matter, it shows his duplicity.Typical Indian policy raise hue and cry even when you are in the wrong and also raise hue and cry if you are at the receiving end.
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May 08, 2017 02:40pm
@Skeptic - Although its a sad story and topic, your comment is very funny did make me smile :-) :-).
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May 08, 2017 02:49pm
What a loser
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May 08, 2017 02:51pm
Afghanistan attacked and killed civlians
Pakistan retaliated
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May 08, 2017 02:56pm
What is the credibility of Afghanis...I don't trust their statement.. the destruction of their 5 check posts is confirmed and they don't even challenge that..
for sure these check posts were not unmanned...A simple indication is enough for wise!!!!
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May 08, 2017 03:00pm
Problems with
India
Problems with
Iran
Problems with
Afghanistan
Pakistan diplomacy at its best
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May 08, 2017 03:01pm
@lafanga....when everyone is driving in the opposite direction, you are in the wrong lane...
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May 08, 2017 03:03pm
First afghanis fight with us and than they plead for ceasefire, and finally they ask their soldiers need medical treatment in Pakistan.
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May 08, 2017 03:30pm
The attack on Iran’s border with Pakistan that claimed the lives of 10 Iranian border guards last Wednesday and the instability on Afghanistan border areas call for a urgent need to have joint military cooperation.
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May 08, 2017 03:30pm
Very well explained, ur rite not the time to celebrate. Both countries should resolve this dispute.
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May 08, 2017 03:39pm
Afghanistan is telling the truth.
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May 08, 2017 03:54pm
If loss of life was so unfortunate then why did Afghanistan opened fire in the first place?
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May 08, 2017 03:55pm
We have to examine words carefully. Who has celebrated? none from Pakistan. So Zakhilwal is trying to say that it was!
These are due to lack of foreign minister and lack of foreign policy. Try to look why from Afghan side has fired, even they were informed earlier about the activity. This need to be dealt strictly, enough is enough, we have lost so many men because of Afghan spillover. No more people to be hurt on either sides.
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May 08, 2017 04:01pm
I wish that there were no causalities at all. No one celebrated in Pakistan. Pakistani people are never happy over loss of lives in Afghanistan.
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May 08, 2017 04:11pm
Before you turn moral, let's remember who has been helping you for the past 40 years and yet you show no gratitude. It is not us who started the fight but you. It was our military and us who call you brothers not your lot. And, it was YOU who did not recognise us at the time of our birth. Please sort out your morals before attempting to preach to us.
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May 08, 2017 04:17pm
The question arises why the Afghan forces took this action was this madness or action taken from the planning of other government.
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May 08, 2017 04:17pm
I think when Zakhilwal wake up and read the news, I guess he was still under the influence of sleep. Pakistan DID NOT celebrate the deaths of Afghan soldiers.
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May 08, 2017 04:18pm
@amir khan Thats what u think ....
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May 08, 2017 04:22pm
Yet another silly joke from the Western border.
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May 08, 2017 04:26pm
Since Mr Zakhilwal is so good with numbers, can he please count all 30 million of his countrymen who are refugees and evacuate them back? We are tired of hosting an ungrateful people like Afghans. Take them back and Pak Govt please close Western border for good. Let Afghanistan trade through Chabahar and Special Air Charters from Delhi.
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May 08, 2017 04:26pm
@DA well said ,
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May 08, 2017 04:27pm
@Khan ...very well said Khan Saab!.
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May 08, 2017 04:31pm
@yaser The people commending Afghan ambassador are either ungrateful Afghans living in Pakistan as refugees or Pakistan obsessed Indians who troll our news sites to get brownie points from Modi Chacha. Don't pay attention to them.
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May 08, 2017 04:33pm
Afghans need to be taught a hard lesson for the there help of RAW and Taliban terrorist.
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May 08, 2017 04:35pm
@Ranjit Please. Our problem with India is not our issue instead it's an issue with India's ego. You try to treat us like Bangladesh, we won't bow to you so then you create problems through proxies like Northern Alliance folk in Kabul. Once Taliban are in power this problem will be reversed.
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May 08, 2017 04:38pm
No one is talking about the poor civilians killed by Afghan indiscriminate firing. Khalil should be ashamed that he did not speak about civilian killing until Afghan soldiers was mentioned.
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May 08, 2017 04:46pm
@khem .. Pal why do we always jump to the guns ... our credibility is tarnished for years ... even if we tell the truth or do what is right will be tainted.. let the truth be revealed and stop living in fool's paradise...That is the only cure..
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May 08, 2017 04:52pm
I pray there is no casualties on either side.
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May 08, 2017 05:05pm
Send all Afghans out from Pakistan.
Pakistan have given safe heaven to all since last 30 years.
A true betrayer country.
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May 08, 2017 05:09pm
Claim and counter claim, funny part 'shaheed 'on both sides. The truth is always the first casualty of the war.
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May 08, 2017 06:35pm
It does not matter how many people were killed or not instead the point is who started it and we all know it was the Afghan army who initiated this barbaric act. Pakistan army only retaliated.
So my friends the Afghan ambassador should not be talking about how many killed or not killed on his side instead he should explain that why did the Afghans carried out this barbaric act and he should assure Pak that such barbaric acts will not be carried out in the future, Also, he should apologies to Pak for loss of life and property on Pak side and announce adequate compensation to the affected families.
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May 08, 2017 06:35pm
There is no foolproof method or system of ascertaining the number of injured or dead on the enemy side. The claim is based on the amount of ammunition used and there after the casualties are estimated on assumption. Claim for greater number of casualties is to show or prove efficiency of own forces. Own casualties are always expressed very low and that too for showing own efficiency.
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May 08, 2017 06:45pm
@Satyameva Jayate
Same way as you guys calculated when you had so-called surgical strikes in Pakistan !!
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May 08, 2017 07:26pm
@Observer
you put the fact straight.
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May 08, 2017 07:47pm
Too bad Mr. Zakhiwal we Pakistani do not believe in your story you started it first we finished it and YES WE WILL CELEBRATE OUR FREEDOM AND DEFEND OUR HOMELAND AT ANY COST
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May 08, 2017 08:28pm
Whatever, 3 or 50. The message is that pakistan will hit back.
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May 08, 2017 09:07pm
@Dexter "when everyone is driving in the opposite direction, you are in the wrong lane"
Was Iraq driving in the wrong lane? How about Libya? Did Afghans do the 9/11? Maybe US/UK went over to the wrong lane in their 18 wheeler truck looking for non existent WMD's and caused the wreck.
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May 09, 2017 12:36am
@Shahrukh : they are not wiser but there statement is more deceiving. they should live peacefully with pakistan.
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May 09, 2017 03:42am
so he is happy about the loss of 2 precious lives.
and what about the innocent civilians who lost their lives
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May 09, 2017 04:24am
Omar Zakhilwal tweets ....we instead of celebrating called it unfortunate & regrettable.
Dear Sir, you would not have needed to condole and sympathize, if your trigger happy troops had not initiated gunfire.
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May 09, 2017 04:31am
@khem Really ...you know for sure the counter claim is true or that is what you want to believe....
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May 09, 2017 05:09am
Wish you are correct.
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May 09, 2017 02:21pm
@Kapoor
Very well done Pakistan.
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May 09, 2017 02:23pm
2 and 50: political mathematics; beyond understanding.
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May 09, 2017 03:58pm
The first step from Pakistan should be to send all Afghan refugees back to their country with respect or if India sympathize with Afghanistan then arrangements should be made to send them to India. Secondly borders must be secured to avoid influx of more Afghans into Pakistan. Only then Pakistan will be able to stop further entry of Kalbushans in disguise into their country. Fencing must be completed at all costs.
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May 09, 2017 04:10pm
Afghanis are the nation who were embraced by Pakistan since the invasion of USSR in Afghanistan back in 1980s. Pakistan open its door for them against the war victims, provided them an open opportunity to live and stay in their country without being strange. BUT They are still living in Pakistan doing businesses and ALSO DOING CONSPIRACY against them. This incident is the perfect example of Ungrateful people.
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May 09, 2017 04:32pm
@Real-FaCE ...we did that for our own interest. even the afghan war we help was for our own interest. if I spell it out it won't be posted.
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May 09, 2017 04:42pm
@khem We as pakistanis want to believe Afghan claims are true as we do not want our fellow muslims harmed in any way. I hope Afghans have similar feelings towards us and will refrain from opening guns on civilians in future. Negotiations and talks is the key not guns and bullets.
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May 10, 2017 03:55am
Tall claims
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May 10, 2017 07:11am
it's time the Afghan refugees return back to their homelands.
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May 10, 2017 08:54am
@Dr. Salaria, Aamir Ahmad : "Yet another silly joke from the Western border".....agree, just like those from the South-western and Eastern borders.
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May 10, 2017 10:20am
These afghans shot the Pakistani brigadier in the back who had gone over to negotiate peace with them...how can we trust them.
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