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LAHORE: Director General (DG) Rangers Punjab Major General Tahir Javaid Khan on Friday said Indian aggression along the border could be due to political influence, saying that such clashes could not have a military agenda, DawnNews reported.
DG Rangers was briefing media personnel regarding Indian firing and shelling along the Sialkot working boundary.
He said that Indian firing along the working boundary has been ongoing for two years, adding that unarmed Pakistani civilians were being targeted.
DG Rangers also provided a breakdown of the firearms used in the ceasefire violations, stating that 31,868 mortar rounds have been used in the stipulated time period.
He moreover added that 438,361 small and big weapons have been used against Pakistan. The DG Rangers claimed that such a large quantity of weapons and mortal shells had not even been used in a full-scale war.
Khan rejected allegations levelled by India regarding infiltration of militants in its territory due to assistance from Pakistan and said that it should investigate those locations from where this purported infiltration originated.
Pakistan calls upon India to allow UN observer to visit LoC
Pakistan has called upon India to allow the UN military observer group to visit the Line of Control (LoC) to investigate recent ceasefire violations, said a report published on Radio Pakistan.
During a weekly media briefing, Foreign Office Spokesperson, Tasneem Aslam said that Pakistan took the UN observers to its side of the LoC and working boundary few days ago to show them the damage and pattern of fire carried out by the Indian side.
The observers, she said, would have compiled a report and sent it to the UN as per the practice.
She said the UNMOGIP is a neutral observer and the best option for India is to allow the observers to visit its part of the LoC to assess the situation, adding that its investigation and recommendations should be acceptable to India.
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Oct 10, 2014 02:28pm
Wow.... When Pakistan realized that India became aggressive after their ceasefire violation and gave them strong reply... that time you calling UN observer to see who got how much damaged... Point is not who got how much damage... point is who has started it 1st???? Indian never attacked any country at its 1st as the history prevails the truth....
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Oct 10, 2014 02:33pm
No one knows.. They are in a so poor state that there finance ministry has done this plan.. by selling the metal resudual scraps of the ammunition fired by BSF, they will earn some money to run their drowned economy..
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Oct 10, 2014 02:52pm
loud and clear message for Pakistan Army..time has changed...and India will take ceasefire violation seriously and will give befitting reply......
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Oct 10, 2014 02:56pm
How do Pakistan side know number of rounds and mortars fired by India so accurately? Where is the number from Pakistan side. They should know that number with much more accuracy
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Oct 10, 2014 02:57pm
Interesting, Nobel Peace prize awarded jointly to India and Pakistani citizens while we are fighting at the border.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:16pm
To my neighbors in India, " Whatever starts with an uncontrolled mind, ends in regret, embarrassment and shame!".
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Oct 10, 2014 03:18pm
@sunny and guess what it will only take us one missile to throw at you and that would be the best reply. We have nothing to loose but u will have everything to loose. How was that? Did you like that? so stop sprewing hatred and start thinking rationally. Neither Pakistan not india needs this, you are moving up because there is true democracy in india, our country is striving towards it. Live and let us struggle towards it.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:18pm
@Harish Pakistan has always asked to deploy UN observers to see who violates the cease fire. But it is India who always refuses as they know very well who is the aggressors.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:20pm
what kind of role can UN play here when the firing goes without any open declaration on both sides?
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Oct 10, 2014 03:30pm
India does not need to run to UN...........since Pakistan requires UN to do the survey.....do it. Both are free countries and can take their own decisions.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:30pm
@omer khan shaheen Very true. But you should be telling this to Pak army.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:35pm
@Marina I never understood this dialogue of Pak - "We have nothing to loose !!!". Do you mean to say your country is so devastated that Even if India nukes it, it doesn't make a difference, because its already a rubble ?
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Oct 10, 2014 03:53pm
India always start first then act like a innocent baby, we just retaliate, we never say or do any harm to any country, befooling their own people. Like news in TOI, India is attacking soldiers and Pakistan is attacking our civilians. We speak truth civilians are suffering on both sides so it must be stopped instead debating who started first.
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Oct 10, 2014 03:58pm
India will never allow UN observers anywhere close to their side of the LoC. Pakistan will and always called for UN observers to investigate any border incursions or accusations from Indian side. Even when two Indian soldiers were beheaded Pakistan called for UN to investigate the claim. India always refused and will continue to refuse to have UN get involved because then the truth will come out. Once the truth is out then India cannot hide behind it's propaganda. Simple facts.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:02pm
@Marina dear marina i dare u to throw a missle. We will have a map without pakistan in it i assure you.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:03pm
@omer khan shaheen this shame only you cannot feel is hanging over your head already.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:06pm
We should not be concerned about the Indian army, after all in 2013 it spent nearly six months monitoring Chinese drones only to find out that they were actually Jupiter and Venus. hahahahahaa
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Oct 10, 2014 04:16pm
@Marina Don't forget India gave you Pakistan two times. Once in 1947 and another time after 1965 war when our forces reached up to Karachi. We can reach there again even if you throw missiles on us. We even won't need to throw missile. We have things to loose but don't use it as a threat. We can earn it again if we loose it and India has proven it before. We won't spare terrorists country.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:28pm
Or it may be due to the fact that the Pakistani military is running the country from behind-the-scenes, unelected and in controlled. Haven't we seen this the last time Sharif tried to make peace with india that resulted in Kargil?
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Oct 10, 2014 04:28pm
@z.abbas absolutely right.... Osama wasn't living in pak, no alqueda in pak, haqqani let lej etc..are peaceful social organization... Whole world trusts you and dying to give on arrival visa..stay happy :)
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Oct 10, 2014 04:45pm
Both countries can ill-afford any war and have lot of issues to tackle domestically than this show of power. Army on Pakistani side and Politicians on Indian side need to behave responsibly.
No citizen from both country want a war with each other, may the peace prevail on sub-continent.
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Oct 10, 2014 04:55pm
hmmm! political influence. very interesting. are you talking about Pakistan where hidden hands are trying to force elected govt out of office... faux pass isn't it
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Oct 10, 2014 05:00pm
@laddoo Why will india want interference from UN when it can solve the issue itself. Everything should be done using Lahore and Shimla agreement. USA has repeatedly said it will not interfere and even UN is not interested.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:10pm
If pakistani military (as it always ) does ceasefire voilation, India will retaliate with its full force. Pakistani army is fooling the
pakistani public. and the pakistanis are under the impression that, India is voilating ceasefire voilation. India is NOT doing ceasefire voilation. Now things have changed in India. We no more have weak government. We will give you befitting reply.
Live and let others live.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:11pm
@Marina sorry marina first line of your reply befits a citizen of a failed state. the other thing is that we dont need to learn about democracy
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Oct 10, 2014 05:13pm
@omer khan shaheen "To my neighbors in India, " Whatever starts with an uncontrolled mind, ends in regret, embarrassment and shame!".
Absolutely true and it is rather late you realized it. Pakistan has become joke of a nation in the civilized world.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:26pm
People of Pakistan and India must live like one family otherwise both counties will have bad days . It was already a great mistake to devide India . The Britisher had foreseen this situation and therefore they devided this great nation . India should have been super power if not devided. Let us think to build both the countries strong
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Oct 10, 2014 05:28pm
@Marina That doesn't mean that India will take cease fire violations lightly. The problem is that the Pakistan is not controlled by pakistan govt. They have become loose canons.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:31pm
Looks like Pakistan is trying every trick in the book to force India to accept third party involvement which India is not interested in.
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Oct 10, 2014 05:52pm
let us first govern the existing Pakistan properly before asking for Kashnir
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Oct 10, 2014 06:10pm
After every WAR, people sit together and talk for peace. Won't it make sense to do it before the WAR, so human tragedy can be avoided?
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Oct 10, 2014 06:10pm
After every WAR, people sit together and talk for peace. Won't it make sense to do it before the WAR, so human tragedy can be avoided?
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Oct 10, 2014 06:18pm
@omer khan shaheen Agree. Please convey it to your army
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Oct 10, 2014 06:22pm
438,361 small and big weapons have been used against Pakistan.... lolz.. what was he doing? Sitting and counting to come up wth that figure... well then... keep on counting..
though my preference is peace bro.. but dont assume it.. also i didnt like ur diplomat's chat with the hurriyat.
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Oct 10, 2014 06:32pm
Narendra Modi and Nawaz Sharif's friendship zindabad.
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Oct 10, 2014 06:35pm
Pakistan started the whole problem. So you are responsible for the deaths of civilians on both sides. You can't just expect to get away after firing at the world's second largest army.
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Oct 10, 2014 06:39pm
@omer khan shaheen Exactly Omer. Like Kargil, 1971, 1965 and Siachen.
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Oct 10, 2014 06:41pm
Pakistan is sold 1/3 to US and 1/3 to China remaining is going to UN..Good Job
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Oct 10, 2014 06:45pm
Pakistan started the whole problem. So you are responsible for the deaths of civilians on both sides. You can't just expect to get away after firing at the world's second largest army.
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Oct 10, 2014 06:58pm
I'm not a supporter of any of these organizations, but when it comes to India and it's aggressive tactics and bullying, then I'm totally with them. We need to stand together against India and stop differences amongst ourselves.
Long live pakistan
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Oct 10, 2014 07:52pm
armies and politicians of both countries are against any peaceful co-existence, and people are too emotional to think otherwise. billions are being spent on preparing for war which is supposedly going to be between the two people who sixty years ago lived next to each other.
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Oct 10, 2014 08:06pm
What is the outcome of these firing?
death of innocent civilians.pls thinkover their family.
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Oct 10, 2014 08:26pm
India always does this.. Pak Army needs to teach the indians a lesson
India's record on terrorism is clear
- Mukti Bhani East Pakistan
- BLA in Baluchistan
- LTTE in Sri Lanka
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Oct 10, 2014 08:28pm
Pakistan is always trying to internationalize the Kashmir this violation of ceasefire by Pakistan is to draw the attention of UN and other International organization towards Kashmir. Stop playing the victim card Pakistan why are you using your citizens as human shield against India? this is wrong we Indians have sympathy for people of Pakistan who unnecessarily suffered due to the actions(misadventure) of Pakistani military. Poor Pakistan citizens across the border are suffering due to misadventure of elite Pakistani people and militiary.
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Oct 10, 2014 08:29pm
Indians started on Eid day. People cannot go out for prayers.. rather they were killed in their houses... Pakistan wont start shelling on Eid day.???? Malala should not accept peace prize shared with an unknown Indian... rather return in protest.
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Oct 10, 2014 08:30pm
The problem is poor indians got from somewhere in their mind that they are larege. Largest army, democracy, economy etc etc.. and hence the reason they are trying to over take their neighbours with these cheap tactical firings. They are lucky that they got Modi at this time and we are unlucky that we got Nawaz's (pro indian) govt at this time. But just to all indians "DON'T UNDERESTIMATE". If you want peace then keeps your guns shut or expect the same from other side.
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Oct 10, 2014 08:32pm
@z.abbas It is known fact on our side that our firing has caused civilian casualties. We are not living in denial
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Oct 10, 2014 08:36pm
Who was aggressor when Indian soldiers head was chopped off in cold blooded...???
This time when you are in receiving end then you are crying & calling us aggressor.!!! Atleast, we are taking responsibility for what we are doing. You people doesn't had courage to accept the fact that it was your soldier who crossed LoC & killed Indian soldier and took away his head.
Innocent civilians died in our side as well so don't behave like crying baby & try to project yourself victim.
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Oct 10, 2014 09:20pm
This must rank as the most amusing articles I have ever read on Dawn.com. The DG Rangers Punjab alleges that the “border aggression” is due to political influence. Is he talking about PM Modi? It is just the opposite, it is Nawaz Sharif that has his chair on fire and desperately needs to shore up his position. Mr Modi has won the elections with a resounding majority. He does not need to prove anything. The border flare-up is a national issue, not a Congress-BJP issue, the nation stand united as one against a common enemy, Mr Modi does not need to score Brownie points against his domestic political rivals by starting a war with a neighboring country to whom he extended a hand of friendship from the very day he assumed office. It has been the policy of every successive Pakistani govt to initiate conflicts and then cry wolf. Isn’t it amusing then, that you try every trick in the book to attract world attention and portray India as the aggressor but continue to shoot yourselves in the foot.
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Oct 10, 2014 10:33pm
it is funny that pak. starts the violation, and when india replies calls u.n.observer to visit our borders! so cat is out of the bag!purpose of starting firing at civilians by pak forces!to internationalise the issue!
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Oct 10, 2014 10:39pm
@Marina You have nothing to loose? lol. Think again.
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Oct 10, 2014 10:44pm
@omer khan shaheen , i wonder such nice thoughts/human beings are also there in Pakistan.
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Oct 10, 2014 10:53pm
in 4 days there are elections in Indian state of Maharasthra. This conflict will help Modi's party in the election. People's minds are now full of hatred for pakistan, no body is talking about the local issues like schools, roads, electricity, water etc.
This is a conspiracy between Modi and Nawaz.
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Oct 10, 2014 10:54pm
@omer khan shaheen Why don't you say that to your compatriots? That will benefit you more than telling the Indians !!!
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Oct 10, 2014 10:56pm
@Iqbal Very correct !!!
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Oct 10, 2014 10:57pm
@concerned_kashmiri And that's what is drowning your country !!!
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Oct 10, 2014 11:11pm
@Iqbal ... Great thought.. Keep it up brother. You are the first true Pakistan who has sensible head..
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Oct 11, 2014 12:21am
@Abhai Sharma Well Said! Sharmaji!
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Oct 11, 2014 01:14am
@Amir
If that is the case; why does India not have similar issues with it's other neighbors?
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Oct 11, 2014 01:16am
@kamran Pakistan has observers on its own side. I suppose they can report who is doing what. So what would be greater to have them on both sides?
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Oct 11, 2014 01:21am
@z.abbas What would be Mumbai adventure and massacre, Afghanistan adventure, harboring Osama, internal violence in Karachi and other provinces?
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Oct 11, 2014 02:03am
@Rahul, you make a lot of sense.
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Oct 11, 2014 05:33am
" 31,868 mortar rounds have been used in the stipulated time period."
The General Saheb might have fallen short in protecting the civilians but his accuracy in counting the enemy mortar rounds is miraculous.
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Oct 11, 2014 11:31am
Is DAWN a Pakistani paper?
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Oct 12, 2014 11:50am
@GK Natarajan the hatred between India and Pakistan is evident from this forum. Certain facts to ponder. Who will win Kashmir? None. This all needs a sane mind to understand.
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Oct 12, 2014 10:21pm
after reading the comments i feel that indians are complexed that they are a 1st world country and Pakistan is a 4th Class nation. Sorry but isnt true FYI, I think Pakistanis standard of living is much better than Indians. We are a 3rd world country and have our share of problems.
Yes india progressed little more in the last decade when we very busy tackling the terrorists but its already changing.
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Oct 13, 2014 12:41am
@fawad iqbal dear Iqbal India has progressed to a well developed nation and Pakistan is struggling due to terror born with you...
Stop hating others and allow peaceful world
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