A Muharram procession in Lahore, Pakistan.—File Photo

IN our school and college days we all loved to assist friends set up ‘sabeels’ alongside Lahore`s traditional ‘Ashura’ procession, providing cold drinks to the thousands who mourned. Sects and beliefs never mattered then. But then neither did one`s religion.

For well over 1,332 years, the tragedy of Karbala moves everyone who hears about it, be they Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Sikh or any other religion. This is one incident that brings out the need to support those with a moral position.

As children we attended the ‘sham-i-ghareeban’ with our Shia friends, and learnt the lesson of supporting those in the right. Everyone respected the beliefs of others. Yes, there were always a few silly chaps who wanted attention, but they were at best ignored.

The ancient city of Lahore is connected to the tragedy in no uncertain terms.

Historical accounts say seven brave warriors from Lahore died while fighting in the Battle of Karbala. It is said their father Rahab Dutt, an old man who traded with Arabia in those days, had promised the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) to stand by his grandson in his fight to uphold the truth.

That pledge the brave Rajput Mohiyals of the Dutt clan from Lahore upheld.

Today they are known as Hussaini Brahmins, who lived in Lahore till 1947.

Then there is the fact that besides the Hindu Rajputs of Lahore, in the battle also fought John bin Huwai, a freed Christian slave of Abu Dharr al-Ghafari, whose `alleged` descendents, one researcher claims, still live inside the Walled City of Lahore.

I have been on the track of these ancestors for quite some time and have been able to trace one Christian family living inside Mori Gate. They claim to have a connection with a `Sahabi` whose name they cannot recollect. M. A. Karanpikar`s `Islam in Transition`, written over 250 years ago, made this claim, but I do not think it is a claim worth pursuing.

But the most powerful claim of Lahore as the place where the descendents of Hussain ibn All came lies in the Bibi Pak Daman graveyard, where the grave of Ruquiya, sister of Hussain ibn Ali and wife of Muslim ibn Ageel, is said to exist.

Also graves here attributed to the sisters of Muslim ibn Ageel and other family members. Many dispute this claim.

But then no less a person than Ali Hasan of Hajweri, known popularly as Data Sahib, came here every Thursday to offer ‘fateha’ at the grave, informing his followers that this was the grave of Ruquiya. The place where he always stood to offer `fateha` has been marked out, and his book also verifies this claim. Mind you detractors exist, of this have no doubt, but the supporting evidence is quite strong.

Let me begin the story of the Dutts by going through the record of the Shaukat Khanum Hospital and the recorded fact that Indian film star Sunil Dutt, who belonged to Lahore, made a donation to the hospital and recorded the following words: ‘For Lahore, like my elders, I will shed every drop of blood and give any donation asked for, just as my ancestors did when they laid down their lives at Karbala for Hazrat Imam Husain.

Makes you think -but then there is this account which says that the seven sons of Rahab Dutt lost their lives defending the Imam at Karbala. The Martyr’s List at Qum verifies this. History records when the third thrust by Yazid’s forces came, the Dutt brothers refused to let them pass. The seven Punjabi swordsmen stood their ground till they were felled by hundreds of horsemen. In lieu of the loyalty of the Dutt family to that of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) was coined the famous saying: ‘Wah Dutt Sultan, Hindu ka dharm, Musalman ka iman, Adha Hindu adha Musalman.’ Since then, so the belief goes, Muslims were instructed never to try to convert the Dutts to Islam.

A grieving Rahab returned to the land of his ancestors, and after staying in Afghanistan, returned to Lahore. I have tried my very best to locate their ‘mohallah’ inside the Walled City, and my educated guess is that it is Mohallah Maulian inside Lohari Gate. Later they moved to Mochi Gate, and it was there that the famous Dutts lived before 1947 saw them flee from the hate of the people they gave everything for.

The most interesting thing about the Hussaini Brahmins is that they are highly respected among Hindus, and even more amazingly it is said that all direct ancestors of Rahab Dutt are born with a light slash mark on their throat, a sort of symbol of their sacrifice. I was reading a piece by Prof Doonica Dutt of Delhi University who verified this claim and said that all true Dutts belong to Lahore.

I must point out to an amazing version of these events that an Indian historian, Chawala, has come up with. It says that one of the wives of Hazrat Imam Husain, the Persian princess Shahr Banu, was the sister of Chandra Lekha or Mehr Banu, the wife of an Indian king Chandragupta. We know that he ruled over Lahore. When it became clear that Yazid ibn Muawiya was determined to eliminate Hussain ibn Ali, the son of Hussain (named Ali) rushed off a letter to Chandragupta asking for assistance. The Mauriyan king, allegedly, dispatched a large army to Iraq to assist. By the time they arrived, the Tragedy of Karbala had taken place.

In Kufa in Iraq a disciple of Hazrat Imam Husain is said to have arranged for them to stay in a special part of the town, which even today is known by the name of Dair-i-Hindiya or ‘the Indian quarter’ The Hussaini Brahmins believe that in the Kalanki Purana, the last of 18 Puranas, as well as the Atharva Veda, the 4th Veda, refers to Hazrat Imam Husain as the avatar of the Kali Yug, the present age. They believe that the family of the Holy Prophet (Peace be upon him)is Om Murti, the most respected family before the Almighty.

All these facts bring me back to our days as school children working hard to provide relief to the mourners on Ashura. Reminds me of our neighbour Nawab Raza Ali Qizilbash, who invited us to his ‘haveli’ every year to see the preparations before the event. Raza Bhai is no more, and neither is the tolerance that we all enjoyed so much.


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Comments (156)

Shankar
November 27, 2012 5:02 am
Very true ,,Mauryans rules before the time of christ around 200 BC.However there are many kings in India who carried the name Chandragupta.
FX-1
November 27, 2012 9:12 pm
Where is the research?
Yemeen Zuberi
November 28, 2012 11:48 pm
Such articles depress me. Imam Hussain (RA) and Khanwada-e-Rasool (SA) do not need friends in this way. Please write something after research as many of us have demanded. Believe me, Waqia-e-Karbala is not new for us.
Yemeen Zuberi
November 28, 2012 11:42 pm
I request him to write about Hussaini Birhamins also, but after research.
Yemeen Zuberi
November 28, 2012 11:35 pm
Salman there is a mountain with a cave in Baluchistan. The people who live there say that Hazrat Ali (RA) had visited that place. The place is called Lahoot La Makan. According to the story the cave ends in Makkah.
fn
December 1, 2012 11:27 am
for real muslims... our focus should be the Holy Quran and the Prophet's sunnah and his ahlulbayt... common logic.. the Prophet showed so much love and affection to his grand sons.. which is documented clearly in Islamic History... when His beloved Grandson Imam Hussain sacrificed him and his family to save the religion of Islam.. the least we can do is commemorate and recognise the great sacrifice he gave.. we have hijabs on our heads today but at that time the hijabs of the Prophet's family were snatched from their heads.. peace and blessing be on our beloved Prophet and his family who ultimately scarificed everything to save this religion.. my dear brothers and sisters.. pls with an open mind read Islamic History the truth will be crystal clear.. the truth has been hidden for many years.. the general muslims have relied on hear say to make judgements about people and their beliefs.. pls do your own research and then form opinions based on facts not hearsay pls ... your sister in Islam
Z
November 26, 2012 7:57 pm
zabardast ! very informative , thanks brother
saad
November 30, 2012 9:42 am
For real Muslims...our focus should be only Holy Qur'an Confirmed Ahadees
Syed Ahmed
November 30, 2012 9:18 am
How far is Lahore from Karbala? How long would it take a rider on a horse to traverse this distance? How many horses would he need? There is no recorded history of Islam having come to the Punjab by that time.
kashif
November 29, 2012 6:11 am
Good research, Can you please share the list which enlists the name of these 7 Martyrs as well. Will be great help.
nafisa
November 30, 2012 2:31 pm
hahaha, what a joke!
gv
November 29, 2012 3:54 pm
what utter rubbish???? The Mauryan's died out in the early first century BC????????? Karbala was fought in the 7th century AD - what a joke?
rajiv
November 29, 2012 10:28 pm
Following the conspiracy theory above, here is a real lesson in history ..mourya dynasty and chandragupta's rein were more 250 and 500 years before christianity and (hence islam) came to being.
Vish...
November 29, 2012 4:31 pm
Muhammad Sahib (PBUH) said to the world - stop worshiping all gods, except the Supreme God Allah. The supreme God is known as 'Maha Dev' among Hindus. Maha Dev is also called Lord Shiva. One of the most ancient Sanskrit names for Shivalinga is 'Allah'. Shivalinga is just a yogic depiction of Ardh-Narishwar (God is just not a male, it is made of both woman and man). Muhammad Sahib (PBUH) himself removed all other idols from Kaaba, but established Shvalinga there with his own hands. Ask any Hazi, they go around the Shivalinga (the famos black stone at Kaaba) seven times in Mecca. Guru Nanak himself went there to verify this. Going around Shivalinga for seven times in white robes and less hairs is an vedic rituals of worshiping. This performed by every Hazi. The Minarets of Mecca are aligned towards Kailash - the spiritual abode of Shiva. Shiva has the crescent moon on his head, so there is a crescent moon symbol right next to the black stone. That is why moon is worshiped in Islam. 786 is nothing bit Hindu symbol 'AUM' if read from right to left (as practiced in Arabic). So Prophet Muhammad Sahib (PBUH) established a religion devoted only to Allah (Shiva).
WWC
November 30, 2012 5:37 pm
Wrong...!
Zazi
December 1, 2012 10:08 am
The crescent and star was first used by Muslims hundreds of years after Muhammad during the Ottoman Empire. This what the Qur'an states: [Quran41.037] And of His portents are the night and the day and the sun and the moon. Worship not the sun not the moon; but worship Allah Who created them...
Anwar Amjad
November 29, 2012 4:54 am
The battle of Karbala took place in year 680 AD. So it can't be Chandragupta Vikramaditya either.
Pakistani Barbie
December 3, 2012 2:12 am
It would be nice if we can stop arguing who is right and who is wrong and respect one another and be happy that Allah made us Muslims.
Tahir Ali
November 27, 2012 2:15 pm
Abdullah Ibn Saba was not a jewish. He was know in history as Munafiq. He embraced Islam but clearly identified on the occassion of Battle of Ohud when he deceided to pulled his 300 men from the fight and Prophet marked him as a Munafiq. Kindly go through the history properly before making any comment based on the information provided you by your Mullas.
P Kympa
November 26, 2012 11:25 pm
I agree. SO what we gonna do 'bout it, bro?
LOL
November 30, 2012 5:54 pm
Islam did not come around 500AD.
Karbala101
November 30, 2012 6:26 pm
No one betrayed anyone. Karbala was about allegience and politics...and poor fight strategy.
ComparativeReligionStudent
December 1, 2012 10:17 am
@Vish... . What you have stated is demonstratively untrue.
Sajjad
November 27, 2012 4:43 am
Great piece and thank you. Its a shame that we do not have an outlet from where we can learn this history. This is the stuff that united us all and is stuff that we can be proud of. thank you again.
gangadin
November 27, 2012 10:58 am
complete nonsense.
Miss A
December 4, 2012 2:55 am
QADAM SHAREEF IN Thatta is an example
chandrabhan
November 27, 2012 12:25 pm
Wife of Hussain was sister to wife of Chandragupta Vikramaditya. It was Chandragupta who asked Rahib Dutt (our ancestor) to help his co-brother Hussain. It is said in our folklore that our ancestor got back the head of Hussain which was buried with Body at Karbala. I am a Mohiyal (Dutt brahmin). As mentioned, we are not rajputs, We are part of Baavan jai Saraswat. In all 16 of brahmin Gotra fall in here. Always lived & worshipped in Muslim lands, Never converted(except for Gakkars). Oh by the way, We are not told that any of our family branch lived in Lahore, May Be Gakkars. They converted to Islam so not longer part of the clan. Ancestors lived in Iraq, then Singh and then Peshawar & then Jammu. Now largely in Haryana/Punjab/East UP Wea re hardly few lacs in numbers but have 2 Paramveer Chakras in wars with pakistan & Yes Sunil Dutt & Sanjay are Mohiyal Brahmins and so is Barkha dutt.
Rameez Siddiqi
November 28, 2012 9:59 pm
Beautiful article....... !!! i believe the facts
Qurban Hussain.
November 27, 2012 12:13 pm
This seems incorrect. The place Hindustan do came during conversation with Ibne Saad
M. Saeed Awan
November 28, 2012 5:52 pm
Whatever you write, our frenzy nation would believe that. Your story do not make any sense but there are many who would say 'subhan allah'.
Goga Nalaik
November 27, 2012 12:54 pm
Absolutely correct, I was about to write the same. Author needs to rechck his article in detail.
Azhar
November 28, 2012 7:46 am
Information provided does not make sense. I wonder how the writer can relate things, which have nothing to do with the actual incident of Karbala.
Muhammad
November 27, 2012 11:55 am
When it became clear that Yazid ibn Muawiya was determined to eliminate Hussain ibn Ali, the son of Hussain (named Ali) rushed off a letter to Chandragupta asking for assistance. The Mauriyan king, allegedly, dispatched a large army to Iraq to assist. By the time they arrived, the Tragedy of Karbala had taken place. Please explain this...as this goes aganist the teching of IMAM A.S
Kaluraman
November 27, 2012 7:45 am
Disappointing to hear that Brahmins fought for Muslims.
PakistanHindu
November 27, 2012 7:45 am
Its sad that the majority Muslims keep quiet when minority Hindus were driven out of Pakistan.There was no one saving us and our property. :(
Ali
November 28, 2012 7:36 am
Interesting, Hardworking, but need more historical research to expose the more accurate picture of history.
chandrabhan
November 27, 2012 12:32 pm
That time it was nothing to do with islam, it was to save the husband of Chandragupta Vikramaditya's wife's sister of Saadu bhai as they say in India. islam per say was nothing as it is now. Mohd's father and uncel were worhsipers of Shiva and used to recite poetry in his honor. There is lot of historical evidence in support of that.
Amin
November 27, 2012 7:23 am
It wasnt tollerance back then, it was love for humanity that died somewhere in the mist of lack of knowledge
Ajaya K Dutt
November 27, 2012 2:09 am
BTW, two supporters who went with Ninth Guru Shri Teg Bhadur, in a passive defiance of atrocious acts of Mighty Mughal emperor AurangJeb, were also Mohyal brahmins. They offered themselves, along with Ninth Guru, for most horrible death and suffered the atrocities by singing hymns.
chandrabhan
November 27, 2012 12:27 pm
Dear Waqar, We exist and so does our history. Ask the Shias of Lucknow/kanpur & kashmir who come to invite our family for Tazzeeya. yes they touch feet of our elders too.
Atif
November 29, 2012 11:18 am
"....and neither is the tolerance that we all enjoyed so much"... Baat tu sach hai magar baat hai ruswai ki... so true!
xarmatian
November 26, 2012 9:16 pm
thats true.the mauryan chandra gupta was 1000 yrs before karbala but the gupta chandragupta(vikramaditya) ruled 380-413 AD.his descendants continued to rule parts of magadh after the empire shrunk from the economic drain of huna invasions.his descendant may have had the same name but is unlikely to have sent an expedition to karbala.the only believable portion is that a few mohyals brahmins fought in the battle and later their descendants called themselves husseini(mohyals are found in large parts of punjab and himachal pradesh).it's interesting that there was an instruction to not try and convert the mohyals.however,all history has an element of uncertainty and it makes an interesting reading
syed Atiq
November 28, 2012 7:59 pm
Very well written..
Zymaidar
November 27, 2012 3:03 pm
My Salams to all those who sacrified their life for Prophet (SAWW) and His Family (Alaih e Salam).
Pakistani Barbie
December 3, 2012 2:00 am
Thanks for mentioning that Punjabi Puttar, we all should have respect and tolerance for one another. But now a days people don't respect one another and people don't have tolerance for one another because of their differences :(
akber
November 30, 2012 8:54 pm
History tells us very clearly that Hazrat Ali(A.S.) had come to Hind atleast once in his lifetime his footprints have been left in present Pakistan and India both.
XYZ-123
November 27, 2012 10:27 am
No one knows where Jesus is buried. No one knows where Moses is buried. No one knows where Abarahm is buried. What is you point.
akber
November 30, 2012 9:01 pm
That black stone is not a Hindu god AT ALL....it is a sacred stone sent from heaven.A branch of hindu religion is based around Islam and not the other way round.
Ahmed
November 27, 2012 3:37 am
Very interesting piece of research. Please save all references and make them available to whoever needs them. Thank you.
AZ
November 29, 2012 12:50 pm
Dear Ali Rizvi, Shia's are killed because they disrespect the Hazrat Ama Ayesha and first three khulfa e rashdin.
Nazim Currimbhoy
December 1, 2012 7:02 am
To me its history and never heard that Lahore and Karbala were so close and to travel by land was impossible.Well each one to his belief but have full faith in mohurum and have for Zairat with my late wife.Faith can only heal and wish Icould visit again
malaydeb
November 26, 2012 9:55 pm
One doesn't come up with an article of such massive import very often. The research alone is quite daunting. Thanks to the Author. Looking forward for more in future.
Ali
December 2, 2012 12:51 pm
What is truth? what you say or what they say? cause what it is to them is not to you & what it is to you not to them. Why cant we JUST BE MUSLIMS like our Prophet (P.B.U.H), Hazrat Ali (A.S) & Imam Hussain? why cant we simply follow QURAN & Prophet (P.B.U.H) teachings rather than believing on old history written by someone (hearsay) which cannot be authenticated by anyone? Imam Hussain gave the great sacrifice to protect the Teachings of Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H) & Word of Allah (Quran) which is Islam & followers are called MUSLIMS not Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Baralvi and what not sect muslim. Wake up & unite Muslims brothers and sisters as we were at the time of Prophet (P.B.U.H).
FX-1
December 1, 2012 8:57 am
Rubbish. Nonsense.
Erum
November 27, 2012 6:56 am
one of the most intriguing pieces i have read in a while
Fransis X.
December 1, 2012 9:38 am
Who survived and who did not is recorded in histor by name. All women and children either died or were captured. In any case they could not have escorted the Dutt's across the mountains, deserts, or across the seas. This article has no basis in history.
mah para
November 29, 2012 5:47 am
it is very informative and valuable research. I would like to appreciate dawn for publishing it.
Gul
November 29, 2012 5:25 am
Fantastic article. We have a common humanity. Let us bring back the tolerance of this beautiful past. My respects go out to the Dutt clan and the Hussaini brahmins.
Arvind
November 29, 2012 5:22 am
Thanks Mr. Majid Sheikh. Please keep writing.
P Kympa
November 26, 2012 8:18 pm
Chawla's account of Chandrargupta and Imam Husain married to two sisters runs into a chronological problem. The two men were born 1000 years apart.
chakravarthys
November 26, 2012 8:30 pm
Thank you for this insightful anecdote.
Binod
November 29, 2012 2:55 am
infants and women may have survived
Mate
November 26, 2012 8:42 pm
Thank you. Thank you for your research. maybe some might say ,"these are just folk lores".... but they cannot deny the existence of husaini barhamins, may be they were never there in karbala, but they did wanted to be part of it n still do. cos even they knew, karbala was something bigger, and was not just a simple fight. Imam Hussain was fighting for plain and pure Haq. Thank you for also reminding us that there was once a time in Pakistan when Hussain was not just mourned by Shias but by Muslims altogether.
Zymaidar
November 27, 2012 3:00 pm
Brother, Article is saying the same thing. Hussaini Brahimins were not muslims, but they helped Imam Hussain. May Allah (SWT) raise us with our role model Imam Hussain (AS), and raise others with their role models.
HMH - KENYA
November 27, 2012 9:56 am
Amazing details !
ak
November 27, 2012 7:38 am
"all these facts"?
Muhammad Farooq
November 27, 2012 3:37 pm
I must confess my ignorance and say that it is new knowledge for me. I humbly request the writer to come up with more such research based articles.
muhammad
December 1, 2012 3:40 pm
Kindly read history before writing something the Hindus of that time frequently travel to Arabian peninsula for trade
Pakistani Barbie
November 27, 2012 2:01 pm
Very strange article
Chandrabhan
November 27, 2012 11:34 am
Dear Majid Sheikh, I am a Mohiyal or what is called ‘Dutt Brahmin’. We are not Rajputs by a stretch and fall under Bavanjaayi Saraswat Brahmins. Our ancestors have always lived in Islamic lands and none of the Gotra, total of 16 fall under Dutt Brahmins (except Gakkars) converted. We are not ‘karma kandi Brahmins’, we are ‘Shashtradhari brahmins, we wield weapon. The famous of the clan are Maj Somnath Sharma (Param veer Chakra), Sunil Dutt, Barkha Dutt .. Rahab did not return to Lahore, he and our ancestors stayed in Iraq’s Basra for centureis before moving to SIndh and then Peshawar & Jammu and later to modern day Kanpur & Parts of Punjab/Haryana. Lahore as a city was founded by Son of Lord Ram(Love).
Bhatti
November 27, 2012 11:34 am
How many Shias outside Pakistan know that the grave of Ruqayya, sister of Imam Hussain and wife of Muslim Ibne Aqeel is in Lahore????? This story needs to be explored much more in depth in order to estbalish its authenticity.
Hasnain
November 27, 2012 7:37 am
This is a very very strange article. I couldn't find any solid evidence to back any claim.
Ajaya K Dutt
November 27, 2012 2:06 am
They were not in Karbala, but somewhere in Arabia. There is a thought that they migrated out of India with Alexander (Sikander). A historian with Alexander wrote that "Brahmin asked Alexander to come to his tent in the night, and Alexander went to his tent barefoot in a hurry. He saw that Brahmin was in a meditative sitting with his family and Brahmin said that he is going to die that night. He died that night and after that his family stayed where this happened". This was chronicled by main Greek Historian with Alexander. They fought in Karbala, because supporters of Imam Hussain had gone with him to Karbala.
FAB
November 27, 2012 5:01 am
Sub ka Hussain (a.s) Rub ka Hussain (a.s). Excellent article!!!
MAH, Abu Dhabi
November 27, 2012 4:28 am
While the message is indeed well intended, some of the connections made between disparate facts are misleading. And how do we say Ali bin Hussain wrote to the Indian king for military aid? That just does not gel with the whole purpose of Karbala as explained by the Imam - showing the people the folly of their believes by using one of their own ways! how is the soul purified by getting overpowered physically!!!!
Talat Behzad
November 27, 2012 9:37 pm
yes, I agree with Mr.Bhatti.
Felix Mashi
November 28, 2012 11:47 am
They have converted to Christianity, as I have.
Ajaya K Dutt
November 27, 2012 1:44 pm
Salute to those followers of Imam Hussain, who provided safe escort to Dutt women, children and aged Shiv Dutt, back to shores of river Ravi in India. This is at a time when every hand was needed back to carry on the fight.
Rafiq Ahmed
November 28, 2012 2:55 am
Beautiful Article. Brings tears to ones eyes. I hope one day we can all get along.
KS
November 26, 2012 10:03 pm
The most important lesson we can learn from this is the level of tolerance has gone down the gutter!
ahmad
November 26, 2012 8:25 pm
Fantastic research
SMA
November 27, 2012 9:12 am
Great research sir!.......
Arshad sherazi
November 27, 2012 12:48 am
No words can describe the feelings after reading this believable piece of work and who cares if all of it can't be verified.
ahmed
November 27, 2012 1:15 am
factually incorrect ..although interesting article ... yes hindus may have been involved in assisting their friends in Karbala as hindustan was very rich then and extended its might beyond ...but lahore residents then were not muslims and islam took many 100s of years later to come to india...
Faraz
December 1, 2012 5:56 am
Sunil dutt and his wife nargas belong to sanghoi Jhelum and not to Lahore.
AbB
November 28, 2012 11:24 am
Lies have no feet but many friends among the false story makers...
Mohammed Khanzada
November 26, 2012 7:33 pm
I cannot believe Dawn print this fiction
Aamir
November 26, 2012 7:34 pm
Very informative artilce. I am 45 years old and have myself experienced the religious harmony which you have described above. I wonder if we will ever be able to experience it again; there does not seem to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
FactCheck
November 28, 2012 10:42 am
where is the scholarship and the research?
Y ed
November 27, 2012 11:02 pm
Shame on Dawn for this article
SSX
November 28, 2012 11:48 am
There is no evidence.
Najam uddin
December 1, 2012 5:33 pm
Though utterly lacking facts,Majid Shaikh has provided a good script for future TV drama.
adeen
November 28, 2012 2:29 pm
very interesting and informative article
Khurram
November 28, 2012 1:29 am
A similar thing happened in India also, when millions of Muslims died while coming to Pakistan :(
Salman
November 28, 2012 6:02 am
I am just happy over the fact the city we live and dwell had something to do with the tragic events of Karbala and all in positive connotation. People with an interest and history can correct and update it.
khizar khan
November 28, 2012 12:12 pm
every1 as well as every nation has his own history on Karbala....but instead of trapping ourselves in such....need to take lesson from this Tragedy....
Syed Irfan Ali
November 28, 2012 7:42 am
Truly commendable work by the writer of this article. We wish that those days of tolerance, love and peace come to our beloved Pakistan again.
Punjabi Puttar.
November 28, 2012 6:20 am
interesting. When we dig deeper we are all actually related somehow. But our prejudices, our intolerance and biases keep us apart.
Chacha Karmoo
November 27, 2012 12:06 am
shias religion was founded by a jewish and his name was Abdullah Ibn Saba........can any one deny that FACT.....
Savyasachi
November 28, 2012 1:36 pm
Nice piece of information about sacrifices of Hussaini Brahmins and Dutt clan. God is one and he is least worried of " How we connect him " , what affects is our intolerance that cynically tries to justify killings and conversions in his name.What matters is our dedicated love for that almighty.
Muslim
November 27, 2012 6:49 pm
A great article, if we keep aside a few points, it gives such an important message to us. We Muslims need to wake up and realize how much blessed we are. It is just amazing how ancient Hindu manuscripts contained such amazing knowledge about Hazrat Imam Hussain (A.S) and about the family of the Holy Prophet (S.A.W). This shows that we need to open our eyes to these startling truths about our religion, found in other religions and be united for the sake of Islam! It's just beautiful how people would join together in the past despite of their believes on the day of Ashura and mourn over the greatest tragedy of Islam. It's a pity when I look at us today! The stone still weeps blood on the day of Ashura. What more can I say! Labaik Ya Hussain (A.S)
Naseer
November 26, 2012 5:04 pm
A touching piece of history Sheikh Saheb. May Allah bless you with all the best.
sam
November 28, 2012 1:44 pm
@ Author We support peaceful co-existence. But what a baseless story of Hussaini Brahmen you quoted. Total ignorance.
Muslim
November 27, 2012 6:36 pm
This is so true and overwhelming! I pray Allah grants us all the knowledge to understand the depth, purity and power of our religion. Ameen. Labaik Ya Hussain(A.S).
babu
November 28, 2012 7:27 pm
khurram--,millions of Hindus died coming to India during partition
ZXX-1
November 27, 2012 8:58 pm
It is. Lot of it going on because of the Internet. No verifiable references are ever given.
Peace Pakistan
November 27, 2012 1:05 pm
Very interesting read!
Majid Sheikh
November 27, 2012 6:16 pm
One version puts the graves as being 12th century. The other as being of Ruquiyya. This doubt will remain ... always. Ali Hasan of Hajweri (Data Ganj Bakhsh) claimed it in his book as being of Ruquiyya. I have my doubts.
Aabis
November 27, 2012 7:01 am
Very nice
akk
November 26, 2012 5:44 pm
This sounds like a made up story.
Danny
November 28, 2012 11:17 am
Your grand-father was a Hindu, can any one deny the FACT?
Pakistani Barbie
November 27, 2012 1:56 pm
How did this article manage to make it to the news??? I don't understand anything in this article???
anwar
November 27, 2012 8:28 am
you are absolutely correct , it was Raja Dahir of sindh not chander gupt moraya. Raja dahir was killed by mohd. bin qasim in 711 as he was defending decedent of imam husain.
Yasser Hamid
November 27, 2012 10:11 pm
History is too important to be played around with! The fallen emperor Yazdgird of Iran had two daughters which were present in Madina al-Munawara when the bounty of war was presented to Caliph (RA). The first daughter was married to the son of the 1st Caliph Abu Bakr (RA) and the second to the son of Imam Ali (RA): 3rd Imam Hussain. There was no third daughter of Yazdgird before or after his defeat to the Holy Rashedun Army. Regards, Yasser Hamid Khwarizmi
Pakistani Barbie
December 2, 2012 4:55 pm
Thanks lol
frank
November 27, 2012 2:06 pm
Very interesting post, but the Ghakkars of Potohars are not Brahmins. In fact the Ghakkar clan has no place at all within the Hindu caste system. Brahmins would perhaps consider them as Shudras. They owe their high social status in Potohar to the political power they have always wielded there. Also there are many Muslim Dutts in West Punjab so it is incorrect to say none converted to Islam.
Muslim
November 27, 2012 6:30 pm
WOW! Loved the last line! Respect!
Touseef
November 26, 2012 4:58 pm
Your article posses thYour article has the warmth to touch ones heart. Instead of elaborating on my regrets I would stand by your memories and spread Hussein’s love for humanity. Love for Hussain teaches you obedience to God and Love for all its creation.e warmth to touch one
Wajid
November 27, 2012 11:31 am
Its fight between liberals and conservatives Its fight between seculars and communals Hussein represents secular or liberal. Yazid represented conservative/communal. Whom do you support?now Karbala is Pakistan
chandrabhan
November 27, 2012 12:29 pm
There are lot of factual inacciracies in the article.. It was Chandragupta Vikramaditya. His wife and Hussain's wife were sister. Similarly, we are not Rajputs but Brahmins.
aku
November 28, 2012 7:18 am
This is the most interesting piece of history I have read ever. Whether it can be verified or not but I am deeply touched.
A Muslim
November 26, 2012 4:46 pm
Excellent article. Quite an eye opener. The message of Imam Hussein (a.s.) was universal and not just confined for the Muslims, and that was the reason among the shuhada there were Hindus and Christians. May Allah give the Taufeeq to Muslims to give Karbala its due importance.
Derwaish
November 26, 2012 5:13 pm
Heart touching.
Dr. Khan
November 27, 2012 7:19 pm
I stood for my Pakistani Hindu brothers. I will always stand for them.
Haseeb Azhar
November 27, 2012 9:04 am
Thank you for this article... I didn't know that we Lahoris were this great... My prayers and wishes are with you...
hassan
November 28, 2012 4:12 pm
Yes but a universal truth will appear in the scripture irrespective of its date.
SM
November 26, 2012 4:54 pm
Thank you so much for this insight into the history that I otherwise would have never known. Being a Lahori, for the first time today, I can say that I am proud to have hailed from this city. I have no idea who my ancestors are, but it doesn't matter any more! I am from Lahore, and my fellow brethren in the history gave their lives for Imam Hussain. I will forever cherish this article, print it, and pass it on to my coming generations!
xarmatian
November 28, 2012 7:18 pm
women of imam hussein's immediate family were captured and all men were killed.be kind to your imaginations
saeed
November 26, 2012 6:06 pm
Jazakallah for your beautiful and thought provoking article!
nuisni
November 26, 2012 6:06 pm
What an amazing scholarly article. Hats of To Mr. Sheikh for his research and hard work.
Tirmizi
November 26, 2012 6:40 pm
A very well written piece. There are a few inconsistencies but never the less the message of current intolerance is clear. Rahab was a Christian priest who came to the Prophet (P.B.U.H) and asked that he pray that God would grant him children to which the Prophet (P.B.U.H) replied that he didn’t have any children to his name. Disappointed he started to leave the mosque as Imam Hussain (A.S) was entering the mosque and seeing the priest, and the disturbed look on his face, asked him what worried him. Upon hearing his issue he took him back to this Grandfather, the Prophet (P.B.U.H). Imam Hussain (A.S) told him that He, Imam Hussain, granted the priest a son. The response from the Prophet was but there are no sons in his future to which Imam Hussain repeated his previous statement. This went on for Seven times. Imam Hussain (A.S) turned to Rahab and told him that he should go home and he shall have seven sons, which he did. Going forward in the future, when the forces of Yazid were going back after the massacre of Karbala, Rahab was the one who bought the head of the Imam for one night so he could wash it. There are other stories that he didn’t want to give the head of the Imam back so he kept killing his own sons and giving their heads, posing as imam Hussain’s (A.S). Voice of the Imam told Rahab to attach the heads of his sons back to their body and Allah will make them alive again. This has been handed down to us from our ancestors and the only proof is the boulder on to which Imam’s head was placed. The stone still weeps blood on the day of ashura. The ideology of Intolerance has had many names in the history. It has been called the Kharajite, Yazidiat and modern day Taliban and Wahhabiasim. May Allah keep all of us on the righteous path
A Shiaa Reader
November 28, 2012 9:19 am
The author is denying the truth of Karabla
R.K.Mohindra
November 27, 2012 3:46 pm
This is in response to history lover from India. There were two Chandragupta: I. Chandragupta Mauriya who ruled India 320-298 BC and 2. Chandragupta Vktrmaditya( also called Chandragupta II ), whose rule was 318-413 AD. Dawm made a mistake by publishing Mauriya. I hope it clears the confusion.
rizwan
November 27, 2012 3:21 pm
Imam hussain R.A was way above these petty labels.
Pakistani
November 26, 2012 6:28 pm
Salute to Dutt's for standing up with Imam Hussain (A.S) against tyranny of Yazid bin Muaweeya
QB
November 26, 2012 6:26 pm
It is a very interesting article. It would have been nice to provide the references to give authenticity. Regards,
mazharuddin
December 1, 2012 6:00 am
Such articles having no authentic record, specially relating to sectarian issues should not be published by news papers. Further the newspapers should also accept the negative view of the people having authentic records. The responsible authorities, controlling the media realize that the articles having baseless material create hatred. Media should bear responsibility in this respect.
Abbasi A
November 29, 2012 9:12 am
I care. It is an attack on my most sacred held belief and on the truth of Hussain for which so many suffered and gave their life. I care, I care very much.
Ramana
November 28, 2012 5:21 am
Interesting fiction, vedas were recorded around 3000 BCE Islam came around 500 AD. Good message though which is, we belong to humanity first and then we chart our religious paths
Vimal
November 28, 2012 10:32 am
Population of Hindus in Pakistan has reduced significantly after independence.Less than 2% Hindus are present in Pakistan today.
adeen
November 28, 2012 2:44 pm
but i am pretty much sure that its an indian myth..nothing to do with reality..
Dr. Khan
November 27, 2012 7:22 pm
I am not concerened about article. But one thing is sure that all muslims and India were Hindu or belonged to some other religion.
Zazi
November 27, 2012 8:57 pm
Don't take the name of Allah in vain...for lies being propogated by the author. If all this was true it would destroy the Shiaa Imam's stand for truth. also the author provides no scholarly reference. You people please think rationally. Don't believe foolishness and disinformation. Anyone can say anything but without facts these become fairy tales. Treat them as such.
Ali Rizvi
November 28, 2012 5:39 pm
I do not claim to know a lot about Muslim histroy. unfortunately Muslims are most intolerant and divided people. They kill each other just because of someone elses belief. If Shias commemorate the death of Imam Hussain what is the the problem of others. In the name of religion Muslem kills other Muslims which is forbidden in Quran Pak. We need a Kamal Ataturk in Pakistan and banning of all Madarsas will solve most problems. Ali
Agha Asad Raza
November 29, 2012 12:53 pm
Well researched and support by historical facts.
Abbasi A
November 28, 2012 11:52 am
They were all wiped out at Karbala. Disproves your statement.
muhammad
December 1, 2012 3:50 pm
One day you will say that Islam was founded by a Christian please read history and religion carefully before making such claims
Waqar
November 27, 2012 11:23 am
What a none sense this article is
Aamir
November 26, 2012 6:12 pm
interesting
Muhammad Mohsin Zaki
November 28, 2012 7:49 am
Where's the real part of the history, we never know.
History Lover from India
November 27, 2012 11:27 am
Mauryan Empire existed between 322 BC to 185 BC...........the war of Karbala was fought in 7th century AD !!! Come on check all the facts before writing anything on such a reputed newspaper. Best Regards, History Lover from India
Abbasi
November 27, 2012 3:16 pm
This is completely non-sence, Muslims were in power at that time and there were millions of Muslims who could have helped Hazrat Imam Hussain if he at any stage requested any help. India was so far to be asked for help instead of Makkah and Madina and there were Sahaba in large numbers who could have helped them if they had asked for any help. Please stop spreading non-sence. Hazrat Imam Hussain requested any help from any non muslim what a non-sence...
Syed
November 26, 2012 5:29 pm
Thanks so much for sharing Majid sahab. I knew that there was a group of hindus who reached karbala to fight along Imam Hussain .a.s. but they were too late and were very disappointed. on the the night of 9th, Imam Hussain a.s. turned off the candle lights and told his companions to leave as death is eminent the next day. He even told them that Jannat will be there even if they leave. When the lights were turned on, the companions of Imam had their swords to their neck and said they are ready to die for Imam rather then run and save their lives. When every companion and family member was martyred, Imam raised his voice and said Is there anyone to help me? Imam knew he would die for Allah but oh the tragedy, His Nana brought the religion of Islam and the Nephew was all alone against the corrupt and ruthless ruler. Now 20 million people visit his grave on Chehlum yet no one knows where yazeed is buried.
ZR
November 26, 2012 7:21 pm
This is an amazing article, utterly fascinating. We Muslims need to ask ourselves, How is it that ancient holy Hindu manuscripts contained such amazing knowledge about Hazrat Imam Hussain and about the family of the Holy Prophet. Perhaps we need to open our minds and hearts to these beautiful truths which are found in other religions.
loverof ahle bait
November 28, 2012 6:36 pm
it doesnt makes any sense . The author has made up a story on his own . Why not follow the footsteps of shuhada e karbala rather than making up false stories.
Miss A
November 29, 2012 2:58 am
@ Abbasi...1) Those who invited Imam Hussain to Karbala for help were the "MUSLIM" 2) Later who betrayed Imam Hussain were the "MUSLIMS" 3) who killed Imam Hussain were the "Muslim" and yes he did ask for help out loud when he was left alone and all of his loved ones were dead.It was Imam Hussain's final Hujjat final call for help to all Muslims. Nobody came.
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