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The Islami Jamiat Taleba (IJT) is one of the largest and most organised student organisations in Pakistan. From the 1970s till about the early 1990s it was also the main ideological engine powering the concept of Political Islam on the country’s university and college campuses.

It is the student-wing of the fundamentalist Jamat-e-Islami (JI), and it was formed by the party in December 1947.

Originally conceived as a student-based Islamic evangelical outfit, it was in 1958, or right after the imposition of Pakistan's first martial law (by Field Martial Ayub Khan), that IJT jumped into the fray of student politics.

On the eve of IJT's activation as a political outfit, campuses and student union elections across Pakistan were dominated by leftist student organisations such as the Democratic Students Federation (DSF) and then the National Students Federation (NSF).

The IJT was instructed by the JI leadership to persuade neutral students to agitate against the Ayub dictatorship's overwhelmingly secular legislation and to challenge the domination of leftist student organisations in educational institutions.

JI liberally poured funds into IJT's student union election campaigns and the student organisation gradually began to rise as a powerful electoral force.

Members of the left-wing Democratic Students Federation holding an anti-government rally in 1952.

Though it continued coming second best in most student union elections in the 1960s, it was successful in achieving a strong foothold in Pakistan's two major universities, the Karachi University and Punjab University.

Directly pitched against the leftist NSF, IJT however, joined the latter’s lead during the NSF-led student movement in the late 1960s against the Ayub dictatorship.

Nevertheless, after the sudden and dramatic rise of leftist political parties like the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) in West Pakistan and the Bengali nationalist Awami League (AL) in East Pakistan, JI and IJT let loose an onslaught of propaganda against the PPP and the AL.

This was done through rallies and by distributing large quantities of literature authored by JI chief and famous Islamic scholar, Abul Ala Maududi, against socialist ideas, and against the politics of provincialism that was taking shape among Sindhi, Pushtun, Baloch and Bengali nationalists.

The tense atmosphere that had engulfed campuses across Pakistan during the anti-Ayub movement triggered a number of clashes between IJT and NSF.

NSF members and pro-PPP students clash with police and IJT activists outside the Karachi University (1968).

By the time Ayub resigned and handed over power to General Yahya Khan in 1969, JI and IJT were accused (by the leftists) of being co-opted by the new military regime to help it curb the rising influence of PPP and AL.

Though like the Ayub regime, Yahya's dictatorship was also secular in orientation, a number of political historians are of the view that the Yahya administration financially and logistically supported JI's campaign for the 1970 general election.

What followed were a series of rather ironic episodes. As JI, in spite of gaining the backing of the government and state-owned press, suffered serious defeats at the hands of secular and left-leaning parties in the election, IJT began to regularise its winning performance in the country's major universities.

Whereas JI had lost face and influence after the election, its student-wing on the other hand actually rose to become the country's leading and most organised political student outfit.

A 1969 photo of an armed clash between IJT and Bengali nationalist students at the Dhaka University.

One of the main reasons behind IJT's rise in the 1970s was the way NSF had begun to split into many factions. With the emergence of other progressive student outfits such as the PPP's student-wing, the Peoples Students Federation (PSF), and of radical Sindhi, Baloch and Pushtun student groups, the progressive vote began to split among various leftist and progressive student outfits during student union elections.

Members of progressive student groups gather around veteran NSF leader, Rashid Ahmed, at a college in Karachi before the annual student union elections (1972).

Also, when the campus progressives were embroiled in a number of petty ideological tussles among themselves, IJT cleverly used its organisational skills to help new entrants to universities and colleges to acquire books and lodging.

The number of students arriving from the country's smaller cities and villages to join universities and colleges in the main urban centres had begun to increase from the late 1960s onwards, and this large section eventually became IJT's leading constituency during union elections.

What's more, though holding 'study circles' in which ideology was imparted to new entrants was a concept once largely used by leftist student groups, IJT adopted it in a more effective manner.

New entrants to universities and colleges were invited to study circles in which senior IJT members would help the students with their studies and then slip in literature culled from the writings of Abul Ala Maududi and Egyptian radical and Islamist, Syed Qutb.

English translations of two early 1970s editions of books by Abul Ala Maududi that were regularly handed out to new recruits by the IJT at universities and colleges.

By the mid 1970s, though, the left-leaning PPP stood almost unchallenged in the country's parliament, IJT on the other hand, was well in control of almost all the major student unions of the country.

Unable to check the electoral rise and influence of the IJT, diverse progressive student groups began striking electoral alliances between themselves.

The 1970s also witnessed the reconvening of a radical but obscure militant faction of the IJT that was originally formed in the 1960s but was more aggressively revived in the next decade – especially after the breaking away of East Pakistan in 1971 through a bloody civil war, and in which many IJT members actively and physically facilitated the Pakistan Army during its unprecedented violence against Bengali nationalists.

The two organisations constructed (by the state of Pakistan against East Pakistani nationalists) mostly comprised of IJT militants and were called Al-Badar and Al-Shams respectively.

A poster published by East Pakistani/Bengali nationalists against the alleged violence exercised by Al-Badar members against Bengali intellectuals (1971).

The militant faction was called the Thunder Squad and it reappeared on campuses with the mission to 'cleanse educational institutions of immoral activities.'

Thunder Squad personnel often used strong-armed tactics and regularly clashed with members of anti-IJT organisations. But since the 1970s in Pakistan were largely a liberal period, Thunder Squad activities began costing IJT its democratic credentials and then eventually the student union elections.

IJT was also at the forefront of the 1974 anti-Ahmedi movement in the Punjab. The movement demanded that the government declare the Ahmedi community as non-Muslim.

After days of violence against Ahmedis, their business and places of worship, the government finally agreed to declare the community as non-Muslim and thus a ‘minority.’

A 1974 wall graffiti in Sargoda chalked by IJT members against the Ahmedis.

In 1975 IJT suffered heavy defeats in student union elections at Karachi University and in the colleges of Lahore.

Election Day at the Peshawar University in 1975.

But IJT's electoral debacle was short-lived. It regained the ground it had begun to lose in 1975 when after the JI-led right-wing alliance, the Pakistan National Alliance (PNA), began a widespread movement against the Bhutto regime in 1977.

PNA had accused Bhutto's PPP regime of rigging the 1977 election. The alliance now vowed to topple Bhutto and enforce 'Nizam-Mustafa' (Prophet's system of Islamic government).

The PNA movement was strongest in Karachi and Lahore. IJT played a leading role in organising the students during the movement. Apart from attacking the police, IJT processions also attacked nightclubs, bars and shops selling alcoholic beverages.

An anti-Bhutto IJT rally in Lahore, 1977.

The character of student politics in the country became increasingly tense and violent after General Ziaul Haq toppled the Bhutto regime in a military coup in July 1977.

The JI joined the new military regime's first cabinet to 'help it Islamise Pakistan's society and politics.'

Consequently, the new regime also began patronising the IJT by using it to violently curb the activities of anti-Zia student outfits.

Though IJT had achieved a fresh burst of respect for the role it had played during the PNA movement, it gradually began to lose electoral ground and support when (on the behest of its mother party) it supported the Zia dictatorship, and willingly became the regime's whipping boys against anti-Zia student groups.

Between 1978 and 1983, as IJT got embroiled in a number of complex situations – from regularly clashing with opposing student groups to getting involved with certain Pakistan-based Afghan Islamist outfits – it steadily began to lose votes that it had worked so hard to secure across the 1970s.

A montage of IJT members killed in clashes with leftist student groups in Karachi between 1979 and 1983.

The culmination of IJT's electoral and ideological deterioration finally arrived in the shape of the countrywide defeats its candidates suffered in almost all the major colleges and universities of the country during the 1983 student union elections.

NSF activists celebrate victory against IJT in the 1983 student union elections at Dow Medical College, Karachi.

These were also the last countrywide student union elections to be held in Pakistan. Alarmed by IJT's defeat as well as by the way certain sections within the IJT had begun to criticise IJT’s mother party for its overt support to the Zia regime, Zia banned the student unions.

A IJT delegation meeting with a group of anti-Soviet Afghan Jihadists based in Peshawar.

The ban did not really affect IJT. It was allowed by the regime to operate a lot more freely on campuses compared to other student organisations. But the damage done to IJT's reputation had already taken its toll.

In Karachi IJT's position began to be seriously tested and challenged by the Mohajir-centric All Pakistan Mohajir Students Organisation (APMSO).

In the Punjab where (after Zia enacted a more conservative version of the Pakistan Muslim League), the party's student-wing, the Muslim Students Federation (MSF), began to muscle its way into IJT's strong-holds.

Numerous episodes of violence took place between IJT and APMSO and IJT and MSF between 1987 and 1994.

When the Zia dictatorship ended with his assassination in 1988, the new regime led by PPP chairperson, Benazir Bhutto, lifted the ban on student unions.

Union elections were held in 1989 in the Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Apart from at the Punjab University, IJT lost badly, mainly to Peoples Students Federation, MSF and against the more ‘moderate’ Islamist student outfit, the Anjuman Taleba Islam (ATI).

Though the Thunder Squad collapsed on itself, the violent tendency within the IJT returned again in the early 1990s, this time outside the campuses.

A section of the organisation formed the Allah Tigers; a vigilante group of hooligans whose task was to attack cultural events it deemed 'un-Islamic.'

The Tigers were disbanded by the JI in the mid-1990s.

IJT remained unaccustomedly quiet during much of General Parvez Musharraf's dictatorship (1999-2008), a regime it otherwise accused of being against 'Islamic interests.'

Armed IJT men hold a rally in Karachi (2005).

However, it did reactivate itself at the fag-end of the dictatorship, and today it is in the forefront of organising rallies against Pakistan's alliance with the US – the same country it had worked very closely with and had supported during the Cold War, and especially during the 'anti-Soviet Afghan jihad.'

Recently there has been a growth of some highly militant sections within the IJT, or sections that openly support Islamist terrorists like Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban.

IJT members burning a US flag (2007).

But largely the IJT currently is merely content in keeping the (albeit unelected) hold it has over the Punjab University and in some colleges of the Punjab.

Though still one of the largest conventional student political groups in Pakistan, IJT now seems to be a pale reflection of its former self. It is unfortunate that IJT’s history of violence and support for Zia's brutal regime seemed to have stood out more in the telling of its legacy compared to the rich democratic credentials that it demonstrated in the 1960s and 1970s.

Bibliography: Mehmood, Sohail: Islamic Fundamentalism in Pakistan, Egyptian & Iran (Vanguard, 1995); Bhatt, Chettan: Liberation & Purity: Race, Religious Movements & The Ethics of Post-Modernity (Routledge, August 1997); Abbas, Hassan: Pakistan's Drift Into Extremism (M E. Sharpe, 2004); Paracha, Nadeem F.:Student Politics in Pakistan: A History, Celebration & Lament (Essay, 2008).

 


Nadeem F. Paracha is a cultural critic and senior columnist for Dawn Newspaper and Dawn.com

 

 


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Humayun
Aug 16, 2012 08:11pm
most strong -- yes most peaceful -- certainly not It's inherently violent - preaches violence and widely practices violence.
@AmmarIftikhar89
Aug 16, 2012 03:43pm
NFP rather is supporter of Altafism by heart & soul
Ehtesham Shahid
Aug 17, 2012 11:02am
Bro Azhar youth are Alhamdulilah with Jamiat we have organized a successful 3 days event with 100,000 students in PU last year. no other organization have the organized youth with them. Jamiat Published tens of Monthly Children and students magazines all over Pak, we are the pioneer of Students Help, i am sure you have also seen the KU UNITED even.. in which 16000 students make a world record.. KU-UNITED is also the Brain Child of Jamiat... ask any KU and NED student..
Karachi Wala
Aug 16, 2012 04:02pm
You call it "Sour Mangos" or better "A case of Exploding Mangos"
Rectified Guy
Aug 16, 2012 04:05pm
True, this is the main reason!!
sam
Aug 16, 2012 03:33pm
RK Singh - Is your religion this bad that it teaches you to ask the question to any body 'Is your religion bad' - Maybe your religion don't show respect to other religions and questions their goodness. Shame on you. If your mother and father come to know of your mindset they will die instead of being ashamed if they are not like you.
shariq
Aug 17, 2012 11:04am
plz write something about APMSO and MQM in the same way if u have power
Adnan
Aug 16, 2012 04:36pm
Stop your intellectual bias.
Ibrahim Qazi
Aug 16, 2012 11:58am
I find it a piece of relevance to the effect of IJT and its historia. Although, partial neutrality is existing and if compared to that of popularity and legacy of leftist organizations IJTs struggle for good has been neglected. Yes, IJT has faced debacles across years, but it has brought a new generation in service to the society. The exploitation of [preaching] expressing it as policing is undoubtedly fabrication. It is true that the incidents those are routine in every organizations were projected to the masses keeping the brighter side under cover. The zest of brotherhood inside IJT is second to none, but surely number one. The rise and fall of IJT is subjected to the saying of Syed Moududi, that your success lies in where you are a ray of enlightened hope in the shadows of darkness, you have to burn the candle of knowledge and resilience against oppression and slavery of doctrines.
Karachi Wala
Aug 16, 2012 04:11pm
“Bleeding green: The rise and fall of the IJT" should read "Pakistan Bleeding : The rise and fall of Pakistan, courtesy JI / IJT"
Ehsan
Aug 17, 2012 05:02pm
A very good piece. I really liked it. I don't agree with every word of it. But informative and good analysis. I was one of many very actively involved with ITJ in Quaid -e -Azam University and Karachi University back in mid 70's to 1980. As far as I can tell, one of the reasons for ITJ rise during those years, among others, that we gathered, in general, good academic students around us. They were top performer in the class room and they were well behaved students in and outside the classroom. We would help students regardless of their affiliation in their studies. In start of every new academic year, we would collect used book for needy students, we did cheap book fairs on campus, we would provide financial help wherever and whenever possible. We protected new incoming students from "first year fools' tradition, we provided free coaching classes after the hours on campus for any student who need help in their studies and we would provided photo copy notes from the top students in the class and distribute them freely. Also IJT’s male student would act very respectfully towards the female students in their classroom and outside. We would do our best to help resolve student’s academic or administrative issues. IJT worker would follow them around and made sure they got help whenever they needed and then our workers and supporters would fill the campus mosque at 1.30 PM for prayer to show that we are good trust worthy people. Again, this is generally speaking, I am sure, in those days or later years at Karachi University or in other institutions in Pakistan people may have witnessed different types of incidents too. But the bottom line is by doing this kind of work and image we created a big voter bank in those days. In Karachi University and Quaid-e- Azam, I am not sure about Punjab University, again in general, we tried to pick the top performer students in their classes to run for student’s union’s elections. So all those things did matter for the rise of IJT in those days. Of course we were organized, well discipline with clear vision and chain of command at every level . Most of worker and supporter were well read, had good knowledge of currents affairs. And yes we read books and distribute literature from Syed Madoodi and Syed Qutab’s writings. What is wrong with that? They were our intellectual and spiritual leaders and for the minds at those level they were only thing available to us. I am not ashamed of that. Remember we were “Islami” Jamiat Talba not NSF or PSF we sincerely thought at the time that Islam is the way of life for us and we could not find any other Muslim scholar’s book who would challenge all those western and communist ideology like they did. Whatever we knew at the time they satisfied our intellectual needs. We wanted to live like a Muslim in a Muslim country. Anything wrong with that? JI was definitely an inspiration force behind us. But if anybody thinks that JI was running the show on day to day bases, he/she is completely wrong. We were completely independent body. Our decision making process was totally democratic and independent from JI. Not even city level IJT nazim would interfere in University affairs or vice versa. Every nazim at every unit level was fully authorized to make own policy decisions and 99% of the time he would consult his worker s and supporter in the unit before making any decision. On national level politics, yes we did support JI, no question about it. Like I said we were, in general, a group of young intelligent students looking for answers to our daily life struggle and issues and on national level affair we wanted a clear guidance. And there was nothing but JI who would provide us intellectual support. Just go back in the past and look around, any mature leader, scholar or author? Anybody with serious answers? Now I look back, only regret is that why and how JI and IJT as a proxy, fell in the hands of ARMY. Why JI leadership concluded time after time that ARMY is pro Islamic force and would better bet to save Pakistan as compare to Awami League. In those days whatever little I knew about current affairs , I personally did support JI too. Obviously history tells us differently now. Army proved to be the most destructive and corrupt force in the country. Why West Pakistan did not let Mujeeb ur Rehaman to form the government. After all he was democratically elected reprehensive in first and last fair election in United Pakistan. He could not have been any worst then what we had in last 40 years. Why Ji leadership failed to see that ARMY, PPP and ML is not better choice than AL and united Pakistan. There is no doubt in my mind that we committed atrocities against those helpless poor Bengali people at that time and we did it in the name of saving country. They were not traitors, we made them traitors. In general, most of them were good Muslim people as are the people in West Pakistan, only suppressed by West Pakistan. They were angry and rightfully so. Now after separation they have even better presence in international business market then us. Much more and better quality products in international horizon. Why JI did not wait for next couple of elections and let AL take it course and people to decide what is better for the country is beyond me. It is sad..very sad story.
markslinon
Aug 17, 2012 10:01am
Think how to crash them
Zeta
Aug 16, 2012 04:29pm
Although i am no fan of IJT, but this has to be most biased article in a long time.
Muhammad Ahmed
Aug 16, 2012 04:01pm
NFP takes on history and then plays the biased game of viewing it myopically from a liberal's perspective. Let me clarify that history is interwoven fabric of complex events and usually neither side is completely true when they bring emotions into describing events rather than providing objective evidence. In all of the pictures referenced in this article, the objective evidence is non existent to support things being written in the article. It shows pictures of conflicts with only the second last picture showing the caption of newspaper clipping. The remaining pictures do not support any of the assertions made by the author. I will also like to add that in FC and GC colleges IJT was still considered secondary and actually MSF and PSF were first ones to introduce weapons at institutions. This happened with student leader kidnappings during student elections in 1966. I will also clarify based on actual accounts of KU graduates from 1968-69 that IJT was not responsible for bring weapons to KU. The initial weapons were actually brought by NSF and PSF students. All of the student political organizations have lost credibility since 1960s. It is indeed sad that we have so much concern regarding student politics. I certainly do not support presence of IJT, PSF, NSF or any other student organization on campus. These activities should be conducted outside school and certainly the focus should be on actual education at these institutions.
Yunus
Aug 16, 2012 04:14pm
It's a well known fact that it was the IJT that introduced gun culture in student politics in 1979. You can't hide from this fact.
Yunus
Aug 16, 2012 04:17pm
Well said.
Saz
Aug 16, 2012 04:17pm
Er..it would be helpful if your pointed out what was false and also your version of the truth, that is how I believe the civilized people debate
@URandhawa
Aug 16, 2012 03:20pm
plz write something about APMSO and MQM in the same way if u have power.IJT is the most peaceful and strong organization in Pakistan.
BRR
Aug 17, 2012 11:17am
The blame the west game carries on - the helpless Pakistanis don't have the common sense to do anything different - perhaps the west ate their brains too.
dr shakeel
Aug 16, 2012 02:53pm
IJT has been an ultra-conservative, -organised outfit armed with anachronistic ideology and modern weaponry. JI and its likes are the scourge always propped up by thr Establishment vis-a-vis the liberal movements to make this country a democratic, secular and welfare state.
saif
Aug 16, 2012 02:53pm
Very well concluded and unveiled the real truth and facts about the student organisations - how we got the fire arms and violence in our student wings
Fawad
Aug 16, 2012 02:30pm
yes,
Fawad
Aug 16, 2012 02:30pm
IJT and JI are they ones who introduced AK47 in collages and universities during Afghan war. Most of Al-Qaida'sTop leadership were arrested including Khalid Shiakh from safe houses of Jamat-e-Islami's leadership. JI should be banned in Pakistan as they are banned in Bangladesh.
waleed fakhar
Aug 16, 2012 04:28pm
YEAH THE SAME THING HAPPENED WITH MY FRIEND AND THE FRIEND OF THAT FRIEND AS THEY BOTH WERE LISTENING SONGS ON MOBILE AT KARACHI UNIVERSITY.THEY HEAVILY BERATED THEM FOR FEARING EVEN PANTS SHIRTS AND SLAPPED THEM ALOUD AND WARNED THEM IN THE END,"IF WE COME DOWN FROM THE MOUNTAINS THEN THAT WOULD BE THE TROUBLE FOR EVERY ONE."
Rohail
Aug 16, 2012 02:28pm
Yes, he was. He was the head of the IJT at Karachi University in 1979. Btw, NFP was Vice President of the Peoples Students Federation at college between 1985 and 1987.
@khaneliegohar
Aug 16, 2012 02:26pm
Very true. just a couple of years back IJT murdered a student brutally in University of Peshawar just bkoz the boy was listening to loud music.
NFP Fan
Aug 16, 2012 02:25pm
IJT was formed by the JI. Secondly anyone who studied at Karachi university and Punjab University knows well about the Thunder Squad. Please stop being apologetic about IJT. What's wrong is wrong.
Rohail
Aug 16, 2012 02:22pm
What do you call someone being killed by a bomb on his plane? Joy ride?
Ali
Aug 16, 2012 02:18pm
Very good article. In the conduct of IJT memebers at college during my college days in Lahore between 1988 and 1992 i saw the origin of today`s Taliban mindset. Most tolerated that, some of us glorified that conduct, but today we reap a culture of religious hatred, intolerance and coersion as a result of that. Of course there are many other factors contributing the way we are today and im not over simplifying the issue - but those who watched IJT closely then would know what i mean.
Saqib Mohiuddin
Aug 16, 2012 02:16pm
IJT......is the reason of destruction of educational institutions of Pakistan. As the author has mentioned Thunder Squad or Allah Tigers...... they brought the guns to the educational institution across Pakistan. IJT must be BANNED for their Anti-Islam, Anti-Pakistan and Anti-Humanitarian activities.
Usman Khan
Aug 16, 2012 02:11pm
The fact is these Mullah's have destroyed this country and they continue to do so.... and the sad part is everyone is aware of it but can't do anything. If some one does stand up against these Zalim Jaabir Mullah (worst creatures on the face of earth) and there injustice they end up like Salman Taseer or are labeled blastmaster. Religion of Islam which was suppose to be the blessing of Allah for the mankind these psychotic ignorents have turned it into a curse for mankind. Most peaceful and tolerant religion of Islam, from their mouth sounds like the most intolerante and hateful religion of the world. If the ppl of Pakistan don't standup agianst this psychotic minorities injustice and Zulam they are equally responsible for there actions.... than its only matter of time before be-awaaz Lathee of Allah does its job... May Allah give Ppl of Pakistan the strength to take care of this country as it was meant to be... Long live Pakistan
G.a
Aug 16, 2012 02:09pm
Compared to the Vietnam era, student power, at least in the West these days, is marching through quite Saturday and Sunday streets with a Starbucks in hand. it's more like a picnic that doesn't really ruffle feathers in the corridors of power.
Hasan Awan
Aug 16, 2012 12:53pm
And the irony is that Zia's made PML now claims to be a Quaid's party and even PMLN's leader claims that he is the leader of the party who made Pakistan and it is an Absolute lie in every manner. How come a PMLN a right wing party openly supporting Sipah e Sahaba become a fore bearer of Jinnah who was not a right winger at all and beside he belong from the same sect which PMLN right wingers now a days vehemently oppose including the MSF. In future Punjab will become a hotbed of extremism as the ideals in Punjab among students are Osama, TTP and Mullah Omer and IJT and MSF both are taking part in this mess in the whole of Punjab.
PSFian
Aug 16, 2012 03:46pm
These Jamaties hate APMSO because it broke IJT's back in colleges and universities in Karachi. IJT and JI hardly exist in Karachi anymore.
adnan
Aug 17, 2012 11:05am
I totally agree with brother mehmod..There might be some shortcomings in this outfit but still we can not ignore their sacrifices in maintaining an Islamic enviroment in the educational institutes...i know that most of friends might not agree with me but please don't try to be over pessimistic..
s7786
Aug 16, 2012 12:45pm
I have seen them in action myself during my college days in Lahore. They most ruthless Gundaas, using Islam to crush evreyone who oppose them, or didi not agree with them. They were using guns in colleges in 70's openly and humilated professors and students. Simply you can say the early talibans in 70's. My cousin was killed by their stay bullets.
Rohail
Aug 16, 2012 03:49pm
Strange. Some call him a PPP jiyala (he was a member of the PSF); some call him a sympathizer of Sindhi nationalism, and now some are calling him a MQM supporter. NFP is NFP. Secular, progressive.
Kiwi/Paki
Aug 16, 2012 12:17pm
What a sad reminder. So many young, intelligent and energetic lives were lost by sending them to Afghanistan for the so called jahad by these criminals in 80s.
Rectified Guy
Aug 16, 2012 03:40pm
Why are you feeling un-comfortable? What did APMSO do with you? Can you please mention the name of militant squad of APMSO??
@owaisjal
Aug 16, 2012 12:32pm
Why dont you remember the thousands of lives saved because of these jihadis in Afghanistan ?
Asif
Aug 16, 2012 01:18pm
Totally agreed. NFP likes to paly save. He knows Jamatis not going to go after him so why not trash them. I don't think he got the courage to write anthing negative about MQM and PPP.
@owaisjal
Aug 16, 2012 12:30pm
Please correct some facts, IJT was not formed by JI, yet IJT supports JI but they are not the makers, yet students are free in makinghtier own decision which can be seen in the past Nizam e Mustafa Movt. was lead by JI but IJT was not a part of it, even at some point IJT was opposing it, this shows how much independent IJT is in its decision. From the start till the end you are proving that JI is with dictatorship, but thats not true. Second thing you take JI as IJT in many places which is also not correct. It is not dictatorship which killed NSF DSF but the people of Pakistan who rejected Nationalism and thus rejected NSF/DSF. Another thing, I can not find the official military wing of Thunder squad, however I can find Al Badar official recognized by JI, so its seems Thunder squad is a lie while Al Badar is authentic, which fought in the East Pakistan against pro indian Mukti Bahni. IJT still opposes Zia's action for banning the student unions, it was IJT from which Zia was afraid so banned the total student union. And above all, the title seems awkward, the rise and "fall" ? Lets take a look at the whole country student politics, we can see IJT all over Pakistan (still now) but APMSO only in Karachi and PSF in KPK while MSF enclosed in Lahore, so IJT was not at fall, in my point of view it is still the largest growing party, even in the Musharraf era when he openly supported the Nationalist movements we can see IJT had yet made a place in the hearts of people. Syed Owais Mukhtar Blog Owner - http://www.ruletheworld.co.nr
@AhmadShaheen
Aug 16, 2012 11:57am
Islami Jamiat e Talaba Pakistan is a reality and it should be accepted. If you talked about Jamiat's violent activities, why you have not discussed the positive activities and trends given by IJT????
Ehtesham Shahid
Aug 17, 2012 10:57am
well, Saz the martyrdom of Abdul Malik was not due to a clash it was a brutal attack of Awami Leagues Students after his speech about "Islami Nizaam e Taleem" He was alone and going back to his hostel after the programme. secondly the author was just put allegations about Role of Jamiat in PNA.. well who gonna beleive on NFP when all knows that he is Pseudo Liberal and formally an active member of LEFT Wing in KU. I remind i would respect the freedom of speech but one should Do Justice with the History !!
rk singh
Aug 16, 2012 11:43am
Very educating. But NFP, pl tell me which Islamic nation is free of these bigotry? Is it because of just bad people or because your religion is bad?
G.Nabi
Aug 16, 2012 03:26pm
Besides IJT, all leftist groups that NFP so fervently supports are on the payroll of political parties .They are professional agitators,disruptive, least interested in education. Result is evident from the present state of educational institutions. Universities & colleges have become bastion of lawlessness, even teaching staff is polarized.
@RabiaSulehri
Aug 17, 2012 03:37pm
Write as many columns against Jamiat ? it will do equally strong. History is witness.
Numair
Aug 17, 2012 03:31pm
Simple......NFP earned for that.
saad
Aug 17, 2012 03:13pm
u r a liar
Aziz
Aug 17, 2012 02:58pm
It is not just IJT. All student political unions worked on similar principles. The APMSO had a room full of arms and ammunitions and so did the PSF. Political flags were hoisted all over the college. Teachers supported these organizations (perhaps they were forced to) and asked students to join student unions. I was "forced" to sign a pledge for one of these student organizations. In return, they guaranteed me 100% marks on my practicals. Yes, I never did any hands on work in our bio or chemestry lab and got an A, so did most of my classmates. On the other hand, the students who chose not to join these student organizations got failing marks even though they worked their rear ends to do the right thing. There is no place for political intervention in college or mosques. These entities should be free to do what they do best. Student unions are a good thing, but their role should be limited to college affairs only whereas mosques should provide a platform to pray and preach religion, not force it down people's throat.
azad
Aug 17, 2012 02:45pm
During my days in Punjab University in seventies, I witnessed the IJT terror gang called , 'Jury' and consisted of seven members. The gang was headed by one Chacha Shahid who was known for having more than 30, 302 and 307 cases registered against him. This gang had terrorized whole Punjab University for many years until one disgruntled member of the Jury turned on them and stabbed Chacha Shahid very seriously. Thus gang was disbanded. But they change their tactics and some how terror continue until today.
Ahmad khalil
Aug 17, 2012 10:33am
some pictures of +ve activities of IJT wer also required to be added in article coz that was the real reason of IJT becomng popular than leftists, islami jamiat talba who has introduced trends like saying welcome to new studentsinstead of fooling ,admision guidance camp positive activites like book fair, educatinal expo,s sports events, n yes it is IJT who has brought together pukhtun punjabi sindhi mohajir balochi nd all othr under one flag , infact IJT is the symbol of pakistan federation ,nd that is y IJT is still largest popular students organization in pulblic colleges n universities of pakistan
@owaisjal
Aug 17, 2012 02:03pm
because they actually work,
Dr.Muhammad Qasim
Aug 17, 2012 01:55pm
@ Azharali Brother If you organize free and fair election then we will show what is real....It is pakistan after 48 hours of result announcement result get changes and seats of JI who win with thousands of margin at sudden go in to hell of MQM after agencies involvement...Any person who live in krachi know it that karachi is the city of JI & IJT but every time agencies get involved and stop the way of JI....
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 17, 2012 10:36am
IJT continues to dominate in Punjab University and some other campuses because of its strong arm violent tactics against the unarmed student body. It is a purely fascist mafia. The very existence of such a fascist body on our educational campuses is highly deplorable, and without any doubt, unconstitutional (violation of right to freedom of speech and assembly).
Dr Ali
Aug 18, 2012 02:12pm
The gun culture got in due to ban on student politics. before that any party using guns would automatically loose the next elections.
Eli
Aug 19, 2012 10:20am
Does islam tell you to kill and torture innocent people?Does islam tell you force people to pay you money?Does islam tell you take over other peoples property?Can't be the muslims islam maybe your islam bhai from JI !!!!!!!!
pakiboy
Aug 24, 2012 07:11am
Bangladesh has done a fabulous job .. but hanging the traitors of nation ... JI is harboring taliban in karachi .. they should be exterminated from our country !!
Pakboy
Aug 24, 2012 03:07am
agreed with haider imtiaz ..
pkhan
Aug 16, 2012 01:39pm
In 1991 I was in Qaid-e-azam university and observed Thundar Squad in action. A group of students were celebrating Baisakhee( a harvest season in Punjab) with some Bhangra on drum beat. All of a suddent armed men appeared and started beating the students in the celebration. After a 10 minutes what was left was broken drums of drum beaters who were called in from nearby Bari Imam. Poor drum beaters went back crying with unpaid labour and badly beaton.
BRR
Aug 17, 2012 11:15am
Hitlers storm troopers were also very well organized, perhaps the IJT takes after them.
Shumail
Aug 16, 2012 11:39am
Excellent and informative NFP. Can you please document history of emergence of APMSO particularly between 1978-86.
Snazeer
Aug 16, 2012 11:23am
One of friends mentioned that Hussain Haqqani was also affiliated with IJT. Is this true?
Kiwi/Paki
Aug 16, 2012 12:17pm
What a sad reminder. So many young, intelligent and energetic lives were lost by sending them to Afghanistan for the so called jahad by these criminals in 80s.
Bakhtawer Bilal
Aug 16, 2012 11:32am
A wonderful compilation.
raika45
Aug 16, 2012 12:17pm
Student power was once in the 70's and early 80's a power to be recognized with . Remember the American student power during the Vietnam war and their slogan "hell no we won't go". The same was in most countries when university students fought against what they felt was injustice against the people. However in the latter years due to either political pressure or students decided their future was in getting good grades to secure a job,student power fizzled out.Now it is the politicians that are making hay knowing that they have no intimidating opposition.
Zeeshan
Aug 16, 2012 12:21pm
Good one NFP. Now when are you going to write article showing militant side of APMSO and MQM? Or do your fear a body bag coming your way?
saleem
Aug 16, 2012 01:22pm
the so called strategic depth has become hole from which it is now difficult to come out.
Ehtesham Shahid
Aug 16, 2012 01:05pm
Biased Compilation !! I respect the Freedom of Expression but when you dare to right a History you should not be biased Prejudiced.
sid
Aug 16, 2012 01:54pm
Assassinatiom of zia?????????????can any one explain.........
Feroze Khan
Aug 16, 2012 01:43pm
As student at Punjab University (1963-65), we were demonstrating against Ayub Khan's government,were tear gassed, baton charged.We did it without any banners,without any affiliation with political wings of political parties.NFP is trying to paint IJT as villain but APMSO & MQM as freedom loving groups.The fact is that so called liberal groups were equally disruptive, professional agitators ,they were patronized financially by MQM &PPP. Will NFP dare write an expose on MQM &APMSO student groups ? I seriously doubt,threat from MQM is too daunting.
G.Nabi
Aug 16, 2012 04:37pm
@Rohail : Flattery won't get you anywhere. Name one column where NFP criticized MQM or PPP.He is secular & progressive as long as he doesn't have to criticize MQM & PPP.
@ahsheikh
Aug 16, 2012 04:44pm
How can you analyse students politics ONLY in context of main-stream political parties ? NO-MENTION of role of security agencies ?
waleed fakhar
Aug 16, 2012 04:45pm
I AM FROM KARACHI AND I WAS AFFILIATED FROM SM GOVT. SCIENCE COLLEGE,THE REASON WHY I NEVER WENT TO MY COLLEGE BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAD GOONS OF ISLAMI JAMIAT TALIBA TO TREAT NEUTRAL STUDENTS PURSUANT TO THEM AND PUNISH THEM WHAT THEY TERMED AS A PART OF ISLAM.CONSEQUENTLY I GOT EDUCATED IN PRIVATE GROUP TUTIONS AND HAD GHOST AFFILIATION OF SM GOVT COLLEGE.THE SYNONYMOUS THING IS HAPPENING WITH MANY STUDENTS OF KARACHI LIKE ME.
Ghani K.
Aug 16, 2012 04:51pm
Student body in Karachi universities & colleges is mostly full of MQM hooligans who take dictation from their bosses in Nine Zero. It is not the question who is liberal or democratic, they are as much intolerant as those hooligans of IJT. Both groups are on the pay roll of their political patrons.
Jahangir
Aug 16, 2012 04:57pm
I remember living in NED hostel during Zia's ban days. IJT students used to sit and sip tea in rangers' kiosks. Almost every day they will hijack a university bus and then drive down the road to Chase shopping center to harass and rob it. Or come barging in to exams and tear-up papers because one of their brothers was sick. They were really proud of their brothers who were coming from Afghan Jihad. Although those brothers used to magically disappeared in conflicts with more heavily armed student organizations like Baloch Students organization.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 16, 2012 05:10pm
Sounds a lot like the Red Guard in China. They thought they were going to change things but they were being played.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 16, 2012 05:12pm
They want the university professors making the tea for them.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 16, 2012 05:16pm
A whole generation in China lost their chance at university education when the Red Guard shut down the schools for ten years.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 16, 2012 05:19pm
Strategic depth meant the army would lose if they had to fight the Taliban and the generals would lose their drug income from the Afghan warlords. If that is patriotism, I have the wrong idea of patriotism.
Cyrus Howell
Aug 16, 2012 05:23pm
Democracy means people have freedom of choice. Religious Puritans do not want us to have freedom of choice, or the intellectual capacity to oppose their views.
Nasiroski
Aug 17, 2012 11:58am
Here is a one liner for you. APMSO was a natural reaction to fascism of IJT hooligans. No other student organization is known for physically assualting "Professors/Teaching staff" in Universities and Colleges across Pakistan but IJT.
Iftikhar Husain
Aug 17, 2012 11:53am
This is a part of history thank you for reminding.
Dr. Mohsin Ansari
Aug 16, 2012 06:10pm
the pic of Jamiat activists killed in Karachi were killed by MQM and other ethnic c groups not by leftists, the pic from Dhaka is not a clash this was an attack on one individual on ground Abdul Malik who lost his life when he was accused of supporting Pakistan just before fall of Bangladesh. Dr. Mohsin Ansari Faculty University of Maryland USA
Aqeel
Aug 16, 2012 06:26pm
I've been a student of Punjab University during 2006-08. I've seen with my open eyes the brutal injuries inflicted on students by Jamatis. I saw the back of a student that was burnt by Jamatis by putting hot iron on it. This is one of the many such horrible incidents. They pretend to be very peaceful, but reality is not the same. Some of my friends here, and many around the globe, criticize Islamic Scholars (Maulvis). This open criticism seems to take into its ambit each and every islamic scholar. If someone is saying that every islamic scholar is wrong, the statement concludes that the teachings of Islam are wrong. And obviously no Muslim can mean this. Although there are too many black sheep in clothes of Islamic Scholars but still there are many Ulama (Islamic Scholars) who practice and preach Islam in its true sense. They preach peace and reverence. So, please don't criticize by using such words as "Mullahs", "Maulvis", etc. Criticize those who are wrong, not everyone. Hope you understand.
Salim
Aug 16, 2012 06:35pm
Someone once said "Ignorance of people is the biggest power of politicians". That is what JI used on simple young men coming from villages to cities for education. I know a number of them who now reside in US, although having very strong militant/ extremist views. Now, when we ask them about it; they just smile and say part of the game and life goes on. West plans what to do with a country 20 to 30 years in advance. Religious bifurcation introduced in late seventies and ethnic bifurcation coming in 80's (spread by Zia regime to stay in power - fully supported by US governments); today we are bearing its toll. If you look at history, Muslim leaders of OIC summit 22–24 February 1974 (one of the most strongest group of Muslim leaders), have died/killed/assassinated in unprecedented circumstances, supported by extremists in the name of Islam. West planned well to curb the rise of moderate Islamic group, who were well respected within their respective countries. Western governments could see this group threatening their monopoly of world control. They knew how to develop and use the extremist factor; pitching extremist form of Islam to counter the moderates. The think tanks in west design the moves in advance, like playing chess, only the chess board is the world map. Educate oneself and others around us; learn from our mistakes is the need of time! Debate on facts, figures and circumstances; not on ones emotions, likes or dislikes. All my prayers for the youth of Pakistan, and God give us the courage and patience to bear these hardships.
AHA
Aug 16, 2012 06:45pm
Oh come on Cyrus. China has moved on. So should you.
Mahmood
Aug 16, 2012 06:45pm
Islami Jamiat Talaba is most precious blessing of Allah for the students of Pakistan. Islami Jamiat Talaba introduced Islamic values in educational institutions, connected students with the Quran and changed their lives according to Quran and Sunnah.
Devendra
Aug 16, 2012 06:47pm
Dear NFP, I am a staunch believer of SECULAR DEMOCRACY. But if I were ever (insane) to believe in a Dictator, it would have to be you. Pakistan, in my humble opinion, is a sick with cancer of hatred and religious fanaticism. This cancer was not only left untreated over decades but was nurtured and fed by the politicians, Mullahas and the military. Now, This cancer has spread in to the lymph nodes and there is no cure. It is only a matter of time when the end comes (as a nation, for Paksitan). Then, there may be a new nation born. That is the only hope.
Punjab-Universtiy
Aug 16, 2012 06:48pm
NFP, you said "When the Zia dictatorship ended with his assassination in 1988".. Can you tell us who assassinated Zia? During my college days in early 80's IJT was a great force, they done a lot of helpful things to support students coming from small villages or town but they were using them in return. They really harassed and terrified rivals and liberal professor. I remember, one of the best professor of Hailey College of Commerce was beaten and kicked out by IJT. The University was helpless. They used to beat their opponent savagely (killed some PSF supporters). They used to harass and defame the female students for talking to male members of their class. There used to undercover religious police of IJT (male and female) who enforced a very strict code in dorms. They used to rough us up for not praying or not attending religious gathering in dorms. They used to force university to hire professor afflicted with JI. The IJT supporters used to get the guess (exact questions on the exam) two days before the final exams. They really damaged the secular charter of Punjab University and level of education was dropped to its lowest since IJT used to boycott classes on weekly basis in order to show it mussels or enforce its demand. They even caused an unofficial ban on female athletes from participation in sports such as field hockey, running, swimming, tennis and other. The only sports they were allowed to play was indoor table tennis. They were the real Talibans..
Yawar
Aug 16, 2012 07:21pm
Oh, so now it was Allah who formed IJT. Bohat khoob.
Capt C M Khan
Aug 16, 2012 07:22pm
All students organisations have armed wings. The students donot have any enterainment being young are easily misled by thier seniors. Some students join these armed wings to vent thier SPITE on the weaker ones. So sad, no solution NFP.
Capt C M Khan
Aug 16, 2012 07:24pm
All students organisations have armed wings. The students donot have any enterainment being young are easily misled by thier seniors. Some students join these armed wings to vent thier SPITE on the weaker ones. So sad, no solution NFP.
Shahid
Aug 16, 2012 07:26pm
thank nfp for an informative article. please explain the reasons why student union elections are no longer being held.
Jamal Syed
Aug 16, 2012 07:27pm
Its funny that whenever a political party is crticized, it's cronies want to include MQM in it. As if by maligning MQM will rid them of all their sins.
Yawar
Aug 16, 2012 07:49pm
Dr. Sahib, I personally know that many ex-Jamatis ( most of whom finally settled in the US) are lurking here and complaining. First of all the pic of IJT boys killed by leftists is correct. How do I know? The boy shown in first frame in the bottom row, his name was Danish. He was a student of KU in 1982. He was shot dead by two men of PSF during a fire fight outside the union office at KU.  You are correct about the Dhaka pic. Yes this student was killed by Bengali nationalists. But go to one the two main IJT sites. He is said to have been the member of IJT. Dozens of students lost their lives in the violence between leftist organizations and their Baloch, Pushtun and Sindhi supporters and an IJT that was being openly supported and funded by the Zia dictatorship.  Also, kindly produce references like NFP has at the bottom of the article. 
Roop
Aug 16, 2012 07:56pm
I agree that rk Singh raised a touchy issue. But it is not invalid to question religions. That was the first rule of Gautama Buddha who told his followers to question everything he said. What a man he was. Just like economic ideas can be wrong, so can religious ideas. For example, the caste system in Hinduism. What began as separation of religious, political, and economic power among the three castes of Brahmins, Kshatriyas, and Vaishyas soon degenerated into exploitation. Your response should be logical instead of emotional. Otherwise you sound just like your own Islamic extremists who attack anybody for merely questioning their interpretation of your religion. I would like to add that I usually agree with your views on this forum.
haseeb
Aug 16, 2012 07:57pm
informative commentary.. IJT used islam to get their political ends..
Humayun
Aug 16, 2012 08:08pm
In Punjab University, IJT's influence has gradually decreased. Especcially because students have become cognizant of their techniques of playing ''Islam'' card. They are considered a disgrace to Islam when they publicly beat up students living in hostels who do not follow the orders issued by ''Nazim'' sahib (the chief of the gang). While IJT is the real administration in university residences. In academic campus, IJT is now only limited to male-dominated departments like Law College or Hailey College of Commerce. Female students now outnumber boys in most of the schools. So, IJT literally does not exist in such departments. Members of different sex now intermix quite easily in New Campus. In sharp contrast to this, Law College holds separate classes for boys and girls - a policy enforced by administration under the guidelines of IJT. May we have more women on campus to keep these mentally retard ruffians off the scene.
Najam
Aug 16, 2012 08:30pm
Did ALLAH also commanded us to kill fellow Muslims if they don't agree to your thoughts or did the Prophet S.A.W killed people who didn't listen to his message.
A MUHAMMAd
Aug 16, 2012 08:38pm
There is definately a little truth in this article, but, it is definately biased based on the authors leftist idealogy and past association with leftist student organization...I was surprised to see the pic with note "A montage of IJT members killed in clashes with leftist student groups in Karachi between 1979 and 1983."...Any comments on this
Asim Syed
Aug 16, 2012 08:45pm
IJT now stand for Islami Jamiat Taliban, they protect and give shelters to Taliban in major cities of Pakistan, majority of Karachities died during 1992 and Jamaatis were denouncers. They chant slogans i.e. Allah -o-Akbar before attacking innocent Muslims and Pakistani brethren. Have we all forgotten, Jamaatis opposed the idea of Pakistan? They still carry same mentality and carry out activities which harm Pakistan.
AHA
Aug 17, 2012 12:30pm
Well said.
Waqas Maalik Wattoo
Aug 16, 2012 09:02pm
I am glad to see this article by NFP about IJT, as he acceptd that IJT was most organised and powerful student organisation during 1970s and 1980s but at the showed lack pf information as he said IJT remained quiet during Musharraf era as IJT launched successful campaign against Board of Governers in colleges of Punjab in the year of 2002-03 with the help of all other student organisations and Mutehidda Talba Mahaz wich minimized student violence in Punjab. And in 2011 IJT staged its annual convention in Lahore which was attended by 50000+ students. I have a question for NFP that is there any other student body better organised across all over Pakistan than IJT? I hope he will answer NO.
syed
Aug 16, 2012 09:14pm
Totally agreed..We need to denounce violence at every sector wether it is coming from any political or religious faction within the country and also denounce those who are not denouncing it as they are the major hurdle in bringing peace. Iran kept 3 million afghan refugees. why they dont have a heroine or kalashinkov culture. America knows all about Taliban ans Alqaeda and they are deliberately letting them loose on us as well just to have a reason to stay in region little longer (till they suck more blood out of muslims) just like they have done in Palestine, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon and financial looting of MiddleEast with the help of Puppet Kings. We should not support anyone in election who has a slightest soft heart for USA Policies and government as it is a death sentence for leftover dieing Pakistan.
Syd
Aug 16, 2012 09:20pm
Jaamaati thaaaaaa!
Dehwar
Aug 16, 2012 09:22pm
As far as I remember til the late 1960's and early 1970's the main student activities were in Karachi university and Dow Medical College. National Students Fedration (NSF) was in two groups. The group which was active in Karachi University was led by a guy named Kazmi ( I don't remember his full name ) so the party was called Kazmi group the other group was active in Dow Medical College led by Rashid Ahmed called Rashid group. The other main student organization in Dow medical College was Young Medicos Organization (YMO). NSF Rashid Group and YMO used to contest elections for the student union. IJT used to be in the minority and always supported YMO and was always against NSF because it claimed to be a leftist progressive party and a supporter of PPP. YMO used to offer them (IJT) the seat for Vice President. There were other student organizations like Baloch Students Organization (BSO) and Pashtun Students Fedration (PSF) these groups were affiliated with National Awami Party (NAP) and supported NSF Kazmi group also a supporter of NAP. Kazmi also joined PPP and became Health Minister in Benazir's cabinet. During late 60's or early 70's in spite of opening another Medical College named Sindh Medical College the number of student seats in Dow were increased from 140 to 300 and most of the seats were reserved for local students of Karachi so the Urdu speaking students turned into the majority and won the elections without the support of other groups during their first year.
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 09:28pm
very well said!
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 09:32pm
JI and IJT both should be banned. Bangladesh has done a tremendous job by not only banning them but also bringing their leaders to task for participating in the genocide of Bengalis in the 1971 civil war.
Syed
Aug 16, 2012 09:33pm
this bring back memories, I remember IJT being active in my school as well, trying to recruit students for the "cause", they would often clash with others who would question their motives in school. no offense but Moudoodi sb. was a fitna himself, his ideology didn't produce anything positive in the society, may be we can talk about Maulana Thanvi sb. as well in this context.
Salman
Aug 16, 2012 09:42pm
APMSO itself is a militant squad of terrorist MQM.
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 09:43pm
Hussain Haqqani was the Head of IJT and was elected President of the Student Union at Karachi University in 1979. I had read in NFP's another article that Hussain Haqqani had introduced the usage of latest weaponry at KU and that even though he never carried a weapon himself, he used to move on campus with a well armed group of Thunder Squad members. I was stunned to read that, given his current pro-US, anti-right wing, anti-militancy credentials.
Anwar
Aug 16, 2012 09:44pm
You look so hurt, why?
RK pakistani
Aug 16, 2012 09:48pm
I am really sorry to say this man he is using before his name Dr and living in USA and he is still looking lack of ethics and humanity. IJT is one of the conservative terrorist student wing and i am one of the eye witness, i was in islamia Science college in 2003 and i notice their badmashies, the force the science professor to get out from class rooms and one of the idiot IJT student is starting speech about islam, imagine how can this idiot is presenting islam and no one student is allow to go even washroom during this time and still this badmashies is going in few colleges and thanks many other liberal students wing although they are using also badmashi but they are treating good with IJT.
Muhammad Irfan
Aug 16, 2012 09:58pm
I remembered days in Punjab University,I spent 4 years there,Once three Nazim Sahab(most Pious and islam Evangelist of that time,whose has just once little conversation with me while sitting in canteen ,came to my room for requesting to accommodate them in my room.They requested me to adjust them for one month,after then they will leave my room.so as always sympathetic to beings i allowed them,they remained in my room for one year,even though i just allowed them for one month,with passage of time they called other IJT members to my room in hostel for accommodating them ,then after most of time i spent night with my friends in their rooms,because 6 to 7 students were living in my cubical room.it was my final year ,when after completing my degree ,i cleared hostel dues then canteen owner,and fruit shops owners came to me and demanded me to pay bills of the room,it was 15000 Pakistani rupees ,Only God Knows how i managed these rupees and cleared my dues.still few days back i went to University ,I met with Fruit shops owners ,they were complaining against IJT current Pious nazim sahiban for to not paying their bills .these peoples continuously malign our society,most of them to whom i met (IJT Members)were dubbed in nature.
Iftikhar A Raja
Aug 16, 2012 10:05pm
U write history in detail but i feel u hide some facts also and some time u write as u r biased but no problem...One thing is clear that all parties are now u ll find in stories but IJT is shining as before..No any party could survive because they have no any agenda but IJT has a very clear programme and motive....I ll be happy and appriciate u if u ll write some thing about APMSO and MQM then u ll feel difference among IJT ad others...I ll wait ur next reserch about APMSO and others but honestly....
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 10:06pm
Don't fool yourself and others. IJT is far from 'making places in the hearts of people'. It continues to dominate in Punjab University and some other campuses because of its strong arm violent tactics against the unarmed student body. It is a purely fascist mafia. Remember what happened when Imran Khan visited PU a few years back? What did IJT do to him? Remember how students supporting him were threatened with violence? It was all covered by the media. I am not an IK fan, but what happened was condemnable. IJT didn't even allow independent students to protest against the Musharraf regime during the Emergency period on PU campus because it saw any political activity other than its own as threat to its hold and grip over the campus. There are numerous other Incidents like these which prove IJT's fascist credentials beyond any doubt. I haven't even started mentioning their acts of intimidation against the University administration. IJT is a curse. The very existence of such a fascist body on our educational campuses is highly deplorable, and without any doubt, unconstitutional (violation of right to freedom of speech and assembly).
Lahori
Aug 16, 2012 10:14pm
I was a student of Punjab Medical college and regularly got to see the IJT and MSF. Both of these groups had the power hungry or attention seekers in their ranks. They frequently engaged in riots and fights and were regularly suspended. moreover the MSF regularly had drinking parties and abused drugs
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 10:16pm
True fascists! Must be banned
Haider Imtiaz
Aug 16, 2012 10:22pm
they did not 'introduce' Islamic values, they 'imposed' them. Islam bil Jabar. According to you, the Taliban who attacked the Kamra base and are trying to impose their retarded Sharia on us must also be a blessing of Allah
Hach
Aug 16, 2012 10:26pm
Yes Abdul Malik was an activist of IJT but still it Was NOT a clash between groups. He was beaten up & killed alone Infact these mishaps happened so much to IJT members that you cant memorize them all. Nawaz Khan's brutal murder at the gate of Dayal Singh College Lhr in front of a bunch of policemen, Zubair Khan's murder inside the hostels of KEMC (now KEMU) were just two examples where leadership was targetted by MSF on the directives of agencies. Most of IJT members targeted(killed) were during Zia's regime. He developed MQM (APMSO) in Karachi & strengthened MSF in Lahore solely to target & torture IJT activists. Infact all the Gun culture, clashes, Killings in campuses were Zia's imports. Fearing the popularity of IJT he strengthed the opposite factions to 'divide & rule'. IJT's President was sentenced to 15 lashes during Zia's period by a Military Court. True that JI supported Zia Regime along with PNA but IJT was still NOT in the good books of Zia. Infact the history of that era of IJT is filled with slogans, poems, stories of hatred against the 'squint-eyed dictator'. All the historical facts provided by the author are so much twisted that you start wondering somewhere in the end how would he justify it against credible evidences why commentators . But As long there are pseudo-liberals like him who believe anything anyone writes against Islamic mindset, He doesn't need to worry. He has a 'hefty amount' of audience.
Hach
Aug 16, 2012 10:36pm
LOL. Well known or Well-propagated fact? Every other student org from 60s & 70s fell to ground & are barely breathing now. Some went the graveyard's way. Only IJT survived just because it scrutinized,audited & reviewed its policies & punished anyone who made mistakes without caring for the status or position. Thats why it survived & nourished in this time of depoliticization. Forget KU, Forget PU. These are only propagandaphillic centers for propagandists. There are hundereds of thousands of Colleges, Universities in Pakistan. The presence of IJT in a majority of them is a big question mark for authors specifically & liberals in general. Need proof. Go to IJT enter in your city, take a list of their members in any college you want.
Sannam Jan
Aug 16, 2012 11:02pm
Although IJT was a part of the beginning of terrorism but they are not the only respnsible for it. Pakistani politics went on the way of terroism afetr 1970, starting from Bangal on the way to Afghan jihad to Talibanization. Army is the mother of all these terrorism. It supressed the democratic voices and created all this mess. Batha Khor poitician also promoted this kind of politics.
Tahir Razvi
Aug 16, 2012 11:04pm
I am onbe of the Pioneer of APMSO and MQM Zeeshan ask me what you want, When you talk about body bag remember boy this was done was your very own Agencies run by your corrupt and fascist military, APMSO and MQM was never involved in such brutal acts. I am a strong supporter and a member of MQM Houston TX USA. I am a proud Mohajir. JEAY MOHAJIR.
Sunnyboy
Aug 16, 2012 11:07pm
Actions JI and IJT have lead Pakistan towards intolerance, hate and self destruction. Too bad when activities of the so called educated people could be so destructive in nature that they pushed Pakistan backward in human rights, industrial development and education. This terrorist organization is against the Pakistan founder's vision of democratic, progressive and secular Pakistan fulfilling the dreams of all Pakistanis. In general, students should focus on studies and let politicians debate on governance. I will like see a day when JI and IJT are officially declared as terrorist organizations.
GoodNews
Aug 17, 2012 12:05am
You've shown the picture of IJT's Danish Ghani and some others being killed by leftist student parties. If you had any sense of being truthful and impartial you would have mentioned the name of the leftist parties to be PSF and likes.
Umm e Osaid
Aug 17, 2012 12:34am
Barking dogs seldom bites, so IJT keep it up and Keep your job?
A Bajwaa
Aug 17, 2012 12:51am
Right wing's strength has never been tested.. The have patronage which other parties don't enjoy.
Dow Grad
Aug 17, 2012 01:19am
I witnessed an IJT activist murdering a fellow student in broad day light at Dow Medical College campus in 1997 ... he smashed his head with iron rod all the while saying Allah O Akbar out loud ... the reason was to punish "Sindhi medical association" students, for a few of their hindu members dared to celebrate "Holi" at the campus ... can't recall the name of the deceased but i think he was muslim - not that it matters anymore ... i think his last name was Narejo .... poor soul ..
F N
Aug 17, 2012 01:04am
He actually did write a piece about PSF and other left-wing student militants some time ago.
Sierraalphamike
Aug 17, 2012 01:05am
Wow Jahangir thats amazing!!! Guess Thats why the MQM, is doing the same thing in NED,KU,Sir Syed today PPP Jiyalas/Jiye SInd are doing their share of harrassment in MUET,LUMHS,SIND University as well. So if APMSO was the victim back then, than now its JI time to be oppressed. Shabaash Sir!!!! NO POLITICS OR POLITICAL ORGS in Universities. Inspite of the horror Mushy was, atleast he put these political comrade nonsense out of business for good.
F N
Aug 17, 2012 01:07am
Yes, and according to NFP he was the first student leader to bring weapons on campus when he appeared with armed guards.
1277sachughtai
Aug 17, 2012 01:16am
NFP is doing a good job to educate new entrants in colleges and universities so that they can make decisions and do not join IJ. Undoubtedly, IJ has made this country a disaster. We all should get together and avoid JI and any of their candidates contesting elections. If Imran Khan join hands with them, we should all condemn it. Thank u NFP.
Danish
Aug 17, 2012 01:49am
yes and make the lives of other people hell
Dr.Muhammad Qasim
Aug 17, 2012 01:54am
IJT is not based on terrorism or forced, its is based on its educational & Islamic cultural activities, Its routes are strengthen by its thoughts provoking literatures, its followers have high moral & educational character , we always stand aganist the secular terrorist like PPP , ANP, NSF & MQM and stop their unethical role in universities and colleges, IJT is giving a nice environment and Islamic cultures in universities and colleges that ensure the rights of female and provide them easy environment to get their degrees with any threat of being sexual harassment. IJT is provied best education system and positives extra curricular activities, other student organization can not stay in front of IJT since they have no potential to deliver some thing positive, if they do some of thing, they also learn that from IJT, Thanks to ALLAH IJT still a country biggest youth power and student organization that is working for Pakistan and ISLAM as ready to serve pakistan all the time as they do, when PPP broken the Pakistan in to east & west. we are motivating the youth for building of nation, ummed banow tameer karow sub mil kar Pakistan ke...
Sajjad
Aug 17, 2012 02:06am
Please stop political forces including mullahs to use students for their political agenda.The students are in university for education not for politics.If some body wants to do politics they should go to proper political process.Parents dont send their children to be used as ammunition for these mullahs.An education system should be free from all ideologies and should be devoted to education.When I refer to mullah (I am not refering to proper scholars).These mullahs are instruemntal in destruction of pakistan
Dr Shaaz Mahboob
Aug 17, 2012 02:49am
@URandhawa, Peaceful? Bringing guns into the campuses is peaceful? IJT thought they'd always be the master bullies in the playground till APMSO (and MSF in Punjab) arrived on the scene and gave them the taste of their medicine! It is also true that many earlier members of the APMSO came from the ranks of IJT and helped break IJT's back in Karachi. Fact of the matter is that inspite of APMSO having a shady past, the "people" still overwhelmingly vote for MQM and have consistently continued to do so since 1987! Whereas IJT or Jamat Islami have no such electoral success to write home about! They thought they could intimidate the students by their bullying and agreesive tactics but then came APMSO and showed them the door.
Snazeer
Aug 17, 2012 02:50am
AGREE. In retrospective, now I wish I was affiliated with them.
Dr Shaaz Mahboob
Aug 17, 2012 02:53am
It is a historic fact that IJT first brought firearms into the campuses. APMSO and MSF followed suit! IJT then found out that they were bigger bullies in the playground!
Bilal
Aug 17, 2012 03:35am
IJT is the terror wing of JI. Two years back a student was killed in UET Peshawar campus for listening loud music at his own room. These goons are not answerable to any one, as their support is coming from the very top hierarchy of Pakistani ashrafia.
AZK
Aug 17, 2012 03:50am
Decent analysis but definately biased. What about NSF and APMSO.
observer
Aug 17, 2012 04:41am
From your English mistakes I can tell the level of education standard in PU !!!
farazbinahmad
Aug 17, 2012 04:54am
Just ask any JI supporter for the same story and you will see a totally up-side down tally of the so-called facts. Ehtesham is right. Writing history is certainly a meticulous job. I've been listening to these stories always from two different perspectives. Who should I believe? I get confused. And now I say I don't have a history.
JAN
Aug 17, 2012 05:09am
High time for pakistan to change to LIACISM.
Junaid
Aug 17, 2012 05:12am
The article is not reflected but looking very biased.....still IJT has growing and positive role in educational institution of Pakistan
ATIF JAVED
Aug 17, 2012 05:57am
Its every students right o have an opinion but not to accept others point of view or a total disregard to conflicting arguments is alarming. Besides, funding of student organization by political parties i.e. JI is extremely disturbing and counter productive. Please let academic institutions produce intellectuals, professionals and good human-beings not a stereo type, intolerant and biased youth which is subservient to political thinking of our old school and time tested failure leaders and their rotten parties.
Dan
Aug 17, 2012 06:09am
Usman, you are now brainwashing other people here with your extremist retoric. To your point, why don't you stand up for what you believe? too scared, don't blame the religious followers for your lack of conviction. Again all negative comments no indication of a viable solution. Are you a learned religious fellow? To me it seems you are picking and choosing from Islam to suit your idealogoy, accept in whole.
Asif Ahmed
Aug 17, 2012 06:10am
Whatever the sin APMSO has in its practice came from IJT. IJT is the more sinner than APMSO. Good Work by NFP. Al Badar & Al Shams needs more elaboration.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:18am
peaceful? yes!!! after all we'ev so many examples quoated in this article and in reader's comments.
Non-muslim
Aug 17, 2012 06:20am
Rk singh, I am not a Muslim but I have right to ask the same question to you too. In India the politics are as worst as it can come. Now what religion should be blamed for it? Hinduism, Islam, Christianity or Sikhism? Islam never taught to bigotry, fact of the matter Islam was established on anti-bigots. The Prophet of Islam was a great example of "do what you say and say what you do". You are lucky that Dawn has published your non-sense email and you are making millions Indians look bad (I m not an Indian).
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:20am
all those challenging NFP to write something "against" APMSO/MQM should read these and other similar comments. APMSO operates in karachi (or to some extent other parts of sindh), and this and other similar comments are'nt about karachi.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:22am
exactly
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:23am
can you support your argument with some proofs?
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:23am
well said
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:24am
so you're the cronie?
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:26am
you were the student of punjab university, how come you know about apmso and mqm then? you must be a victim of false propaganda against mqm.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:31am
this is the first time I've ever heard/read that Zia created/supported someone else to curb JI/IJT. And still, IJT/JI have been the flag bearer of Zia's legacy. Joke of the millenium.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:41am
You should always question something when are are asked to accept it. this is a basic rule of ethics.
observer
Aug 17, 2012 06:41am
sam, Your language is insensitive and your thoughts confused and lack independent thinking. You need to increse your level of taking criticism. Tolerance is a good word.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:43am
yes, keep biting.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:46am
this is yes another example for APMSO haters. why is IJT is the common denominator in all occassions?
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:49am
if this is true, then youth of Pakistan must come out of universities as the biggest admirere of IJT/JI? and youth of paksitan being more than 35% of votes, it should help JI win elections. But, it wasn't to be, and not to be, bcoz what you say aer lies.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 06:51am
aapki kis dukhti rag per hath rakha hey bhai?
observer
Aug 17, 2012 06:54am
Mahmood sb., I like your sense of humor.
azharali
Aug 17, 2012 07:30am
Not to support the killing, but you are bound to recieve something in response to your own actions. In my opinion, the author tries to show that IJT was part of all those incidents on either side (right or wrong).
Muneer Khan
Aug 17, 2012 07:32am
This is not the fact, the fact is being highlighting by this article. What is being seen by this article is not the complete picture of IJTs. if the education of IJT was wrong than they must have produced BHATTA KHOOR, DECATES or BULLIES like MQM and other parties have produce and hostile the whole city of Karachi. None of them have ever been accused for BHATTA KHORI, DECATTI Etc. IJT is one of the MUNNAZAM JAMAT in Pakistan and control their members by their philosophical Islamic ideology not by Militants or Indian Intelligence trainings. They were defeated in the elections by Governmental Machinery not by the change in student’s mindsets.
Faisal. Z
Aug 17, 2012 07:41am
IJT is the biggest terrorist organization in the country who misuses the name of Islam. Stop biting Pakistanis you blackmailing parasittes.
Umar Daraz Khan
Aug 17, 2012 08:33am
Nadeem. Quite a fair, factual and balanced article than previously published. I am surprised to see Rasheed Hassan Khan name written wrongly as Rashid Ahmed, was an error and not deliberate. That is the only criticism. Good narration as compared to last one.
Imran
Aug 17, 2012 08:42am
True picture of IJT is been drawn. A lot of Pakistanis , may be majority among youngsters and of my Generation people agree with NFP views, but our problem is that, even after knowing all and everything we are keeping quite. Its time to come out resist and tell the people truth. Everybody is afraid of saying something, in case if it goes against Islam or current religious traditions. And these Barbarians are moving ahead and crushing the Society and its values. And why all these things are discussed only in English Press, whereas readers are very Limited. If we would not speak loudly, clearly, our next Generation will be same as these Jamatias.
Imran
Aug 17, 2012 08:45am
Zia-ul haque, was assisinated, because he was selling to Iran, Arms intends for Afghan war , without permission of USA. So they (USA) send an Audit team to check. Zia along with Hameed Gul, organizes fire of Ojhari Camp. So Uncle Sam decided to get rid of Zia.
Waseem
Aug 17, 2012 05:26pm
I suggest you are required to put some sound proof in favor of what you have mentioned here. Otherwise, your words mere tell a feeling of hatred towards Jamiat and nothing else...
Waseem
Aug 17, 2012 05:30pm
This is a view of someone who sees Jamiat from outside and gets information from external resources which means it is less than a credible standard. An articale containing other side of Jamiat and student politics is also needed...
Ali
Aug 17, 2012 05:31pm
Good sales pitch. From what i hear from Bengalis, they hated your organization. The hatred spread by IJT against Bengalis was the prime reason for division of Pakistan. Yes, Bhutto was hungry for power but it was IJT who sowed the seed for the creation of Bangladesh...
Eli
Aug 19, 2012 09:51am
During my college years these idiots made our lives a living hell.They always wanted to postpone the exams,killed our innocent classmate and forced students to pay for their dorm rooms.Ask the graduating class of 1988 King Edward medical college.Somebody remember Punjab university where they would take and torture innocent students?
Gulap
Aug 17, 2012 07:26pm
I may disagree - It's not just Mullahs. They enjoy support of military and establishment. Every terrorist is releases by the courts. Army use them as assets for "Strategic Depth". Did you forget the Afghan war? every religious party had/has a militant wing duely supported/trained by our own military. Did you forget Kashmir? where our army would send militants from mullas parties' ? Did you forget Bangladesh before December 1971 where Albadar and Ash-shams were killing more Bengalies than the Pakistani Army? I believe they wouldn't have been able to even keep a gun had they not been supported by army and judiciary.
Salman
Aug 17, 2012 07:59pm
I think its not justified article and looks biased. In my Univresity day sometime i found ijt guys some in phadda shadda but usually IJT boys are thousands time better than other students organisation. Some of my friends are jamatis but they are very talented, honest, professional.
Sandip
Aug 17, 2012 08:05pm
Not sure I ever understood this, why is violence an accepted mode of displaying your strength. I am from canada and we have all the process but have never seen any of this being done with violence. I remember in toronto couple of years back Police officers went on strike and they wanted to have parade and they werer banned as police officers could carry guns. Violence has no place in civilized society i.e. if you think you leave in one.
Nasir
Aug 17, 2012 08:50pm
And what milestone the remaining lots has achieved ?
habib tahir
Aug 17, 2012 09:01pm
Islami Jamiat Talaba is most precious blessing of Allah for the students of Pakistan. Islami Jamiat Talaba introduced Islamic values in educational institutions, connected students with the Quran and changed their lives according to Quran and Sunnah.. Communist/Secularist/Socialist/Liberals you guys will never ever get satisfied by the Islamist even if they shave their beard, make their women wear bikini, allow homosexuality... because your problem is with ISLAM and it will always remain.... even if all Muslims surrender for the communist/secular/liberal values... so a big finger for you guys :))
Dr.Muhammad Qasim
Aug 17, 2012 09:06pm
It was your secular army who deal with them in same way as our army dealing with the people of FATA and KPK..Bangladesh people still love with JI & IJT.. IJT of Bangladesh is 10 times more stronger then the IJT of Pakistan, Inshallah a time will come when JI role in both countries and we will unite again east & west Pakistan...JI people in bangladesh still in trouble due to their love with Pakistan and recently ameer JI bangaladesh get the punishment of death to support Pakistan cause during partition by present haseena wajid Govt...If you donot know the exact history then its beater remain silent... we are still here to protect Pakistan by shedding or blood to save it form sectarian, linguistics , provincialism , secularism and nationalist enemy...
ENGR .A R BALOCH
Aug 17, 2012 09:50pm
this is the in depth few lines analyses of the the student politics .....NFP BEING THE CHINESE LINER IGNORING THE SPLITS OF STUDENTS DUE TO HIS CHINESE VERSION OF STUDENT POLITICS. ENGR A R BALOCH NED UET 1978 -1984.
ArshadPatel,Ohio,USA
Aug 17, 2012 11:46pm
During the 70s, almost all the leftist groups used to join hands/make allainces, just to oppose IJT. The Balochs, the Pakhtoons, the Pathans, the Sindhis and even the religious groups with all their resources were one voice against IJT. Most of the Pakhtoons, Pathans and Balochs used to carry live ammunition with them. I don't recall that any of the Karachite had possession of any gun or any armory either in Karachi University or NED Engineering University. APMSO, first raised voice against the suppression of locals by armed Paktoon and Pathans in KU and in NED. Mr. NFP is just trying to mix everything to make money, the truth is quite far away from his views.
Ali
Aug 18, 2012 03:07am
thanks to IJT, otherwise our universities would have been the centres for curruption/prostitutions
ssf
Aug 18, 2012 03:47am
Its not the english, its the thought that matter, and some time when you type in a hurry you do miss or misspel words or tense. Not a big deal or a bad reflection of an institute.